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Tarka the Duck
9th February 2012, 17:25
I'm putting this on in the interests of open information sharing.

It's a letter recently written by William Brockbrader to Don Shipley, and Shipley's reply.

It seems evident that there are those who believe Brockbrader to be a fraud, and they will continue to believe this, perhaps until there is convincing evidence of his veracity.

And there are others who believe Brockbrader is the real deal, and that he has something important to say: it appears that they will probably continue to believe that, as they don't consider any evidence to the contrary to be valid.


Mr. Shipley,
>
> I need to put this issue with my past to bed. Focus needs to be on the
> future, not on my past. I have a great deal of compassion for those
> out there who struggle with the truth I am shedding light on. It is
> not an easy journey to come to terms with the reality of our
> collective pathology. I am honored at the opportunity to lead you in
> this example and I recognize your passion and devotion to your
> perpetuation of an infective limiting information set that is not
> based on reality. So do you want to get real?
>
> I think that it is now time to reveal some information that I possess
> that would more than validate that I am a truly extraordinary person
> and that I possess some extraordinary abilities. Some of those
> abilities being those of an individual that has been through SEAL
> training schools. See...they can purge all paperwork that validates my
> past. They throw up a smoke screen of disinformation that blinds
> individuals to the truth of what I say I am. There is one thing that
> no one can take away from me...the abilities that I possess from my
> training. I think that you would admit that there are somethings that
> only SEALs can do. What you've missed is that I'm a cold and
> calculating operator. You may think that you are in control but in all
> reality you have been stupid enough to walk yourself right into a
> bottleneck ambush and I am about to show the world how an individual
> like me proves to the world that if he walks like a SEAL and talks
> like a SEAL and has the abilities of a SEAL...he might just be a SEAL.
> And the funny part is that when its all said and done...you will be
> the one that proved it to the world.
>
> So answer this question Mr Shipley? Tell the world...because the
> decisions that you make now are going to be very important when viewed
> by history. What is drownproofing? What are the odds that someone that
> wasn't a SEAL could be drownproof? Lets just say that I know that
> there is plenty of information out there on the internet that speaks
> to the fact that the odds are astronomical.
>
> So here's my challenge...I want to demonstrate my drownproofing for
> the world to see. Drownproofing - the act of having your arms tied
> behind your back, your leg bound at the ankles and surviving in a 9
> foot deep pool for up to 20 minutes while performing various tasks.
> You administer the test. I pick the location and you come to that
> location at your expense. You also agree to protect my security and
> safety during the demonstration and you swear that you will keep the
> location secret until after the evolution is completed. (Lets just say
> I don't want this event used as means of getting me back into
> government custody. I really don't like being drugged and brain
> washed.) You also agree that the video of the evolution is validated
> by you. You pick either the current standards or the 1992 standards of
> what must be performed to demonstrate the ability of being drownproof
> and I will accomplish the tasks. You provide what is necessary to
> ensure that this event can be performed safely to the satisfaction of
> the owners of the pool. The current naval standards of safety would be
> satisfactory. And finally...if I satisfactorily perform the skills
> involved in drownproofing, you give me your trident.
>
> Now let me clearly explain your situation to everyone that may not
> completely understand what you have crated that I am now going to
> capitalize on. One - you accept my challenge and risk that I am who I
> say I am. You know that if I accomplish drownproofing and you give me
> your trident that it is the way that every SEAL becomes a SEAL. A SEAL
> only becomes a SEAL when another SEAL makes him a SEAL. So after that
> point...no matter what anyone says...I will be a SEAL because you,
> another SEAL, made me one by giving me his trident. Two - you fail to
> accept my challenge and I blast that information out to the world.
> Every blog...every SEAL forum...to every one I can. I say that the
> government would not allow you to give me the validation that I need
> to prove who I am because they know the truth - you don't. That they
> don't want the information that I possess to get out. With all of the
> fever that is now out on the internet now, it would support that the
> department of disinformation is working serious overtime to keep the
> truth from getting out. Certainly, I know that everyone clearly
> understands that I am willing risk my life for my country and what I
> believe in. Couple that with the fact that I am starting a revolution
> of peace and hope throughout the world and that I am forming an army
> of light that will stand shoulder to shoulder with me...I'm pretty
> sure that everyone that hears my voice after this understands that
> those are the quintessential qualities that embody what a SEAL is.
>
> Now there is a third option but it is one that you may not have
> considered till now but I can promise you this...it is the honorable
> option. You see the truth in my words and you remember your oath to
> your country and the people of this country. You make a conscious
> decision to return this country to its former glory and stand with me
> in the fight for the freedom for the people of this country against
> the tyranny that we all now face.
> I, Carol Don Shipley, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will
> support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all
> enemies, foreign and domestic;
> that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I
> will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the
> orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and
> the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
> None of us are obligated to follow unlawful orders but it certainly
> takes a very brave person to not follow unlawful orders. There are
> always consequences to refusing to follow unlawful orders. They can be
> seen as negative because we see whats happened to Bradley Manning but
> we all also know that is exactly why he isn't guilty of the charges
> now levied against him and how he will eventually be found innocent
> for that very reason. He refused to follow unlawful orders.
>
> Honor, courage, commitment. Those are the Navy core values and what we
> choose to embody as warriors in the fight for the freedom of our
> people and our country. The words that are emblazoned on my back in
> Arabic. I put them in Arabic as a symbol that, as Americans, we have
> forgotten the meaning of the words.
>
> No matter what you do at this point...you need to realize that all of
> this has an inevitable end...freedom. David Icke and his experiences
> have taught me that bravery and perseverance are what's important in
> your beliefs. People laughing at you in the moment mean nothing.
> History will tell the story of the trials and tribulations that I face
> now. He faced and defeated the same humiliations that I now face and
> is now revered for his perseverance. Ill thank him for that in person
> one day. (Good job 'jesus')
>
> Wither you understand/like it or not, Im the guy that believes that he
> changes the world. According to the information set I have, its
> already happened and I simply need to follow my intuition and my task
> will inevitably be accomplished. You and the rest of the SEALs can
> stand and fight for hope and freedom as brothers with me and have
> history see us all as proud, formerly misguided, warriors that
> eventually found their way or you can be seen as one of many that
> stood against your people and the freedom and hope that they wish for.
>
> Ill leave you to your decision. You have a week to respond. Make sure
> you reply to all when you do.
>
> Bill Brockbrader AKA Bill Wood
>
> ************************************************** *********************
> Dear Mr. Brockbrader,
>
> I will admit that the thought of drowning you has crossed my mind and
> it is appealing, but I have already proven you were NOT a Navy SEAL
> and passing a silly drownproofing test hardly qualifies someone as
> being a SEAL.
>
> Your statement that, “A SEAL only becomes a SEAL when another SEAL
> makes him a SEAL,” is inaccurate. A Man only becomes a SEAL when he
> satisfactorily passes the Navy “Standards, Conditions and
> Requirements” to become one. And as far as giving you “My Trident”
> goes, I’d rather eat a bowl of boogers…
>
> Your message about “honor, courage, commitment” mean little coming
> from a scab like you. You’re no Messiah, Bill. Just a confused little
> man who has made some big mistakes and attempts to blame and discredit
> others (the Navy) for those mistakes.
> Don’t try and bull**** me about saving the world; short on money and
> unable to gain employment from that dishonorable discharge and pesky
> sex offender registry, you must seek “self-employment” for income.
> Attempting that on the backs of Navy SEALs hasn’t worked out very well
> and I’d suggest some other “Fairy Tale Story” take its place. I don’t
> recommend Marine Recon or Army Rangers either…
>
> I envy one thing about you, Bill, you have a “Life’s Mission” and I
> don’t really think I do, not one that comes to mind anyhow.
>
> You keep flappin that ‘suck’ of yours about SEAL Team and I’ll make
> you my “Life’s Mission!”
>
> How about them apples???
> Don Shipley…
>
>

Jenci
9th February 2012, 17:56
Thanks for posting, Kathie.

Of course it is down to individual discernment. I think Kerry suggested along these lines too in her last blog about Brockbrader.

I appreciate the information which is being found and disclosed. It may or may not help to build the bigger picture.
Jeanette

Lazlo
9th February 2012, 18:17
http://science.howstuffworks.com/navy-seal6.htm

This should help to understand Don's response. It wouldn't prove that he was a SEAL, just that he was a good swimmer/comfortable in the water. I bet that just about any pro surfer or whitewater kayaker could do this without breaking a sweat.

Another important part of basic conditioning is drown-proofing. In this evolution, trainees must learn to swim with both their hands and their feet bound. To pass drown-proofing, trainees enter a 9-foot-deep pool and complete the following steps with their hands and feet tied:

1.bob for 5 minutes
2.float for 5 minutes
3.swim 100 meters
4.bob for 2 minutes
5.do some forward and backward flips
6.swim to the bottom of the pool and retrieve an object with their teeth
7.return to the surface and bob five more times

Tony
9th February 2012, 18:39
I hope this helps people to become less sloppy in their thinking.
Look at things from all sides, don't just accept or reject.

We need to increase our intelligence .....not decrease it!
Ordinary people jump to conclusion, therefore can be controlled.
Sit back, ask questions, probe, then come to a conclusion....your conclusion.

Look at the big picture.....WHAT IS IT ALL ABOUT?

aranuk
9th February 2012, 18:45
Sounds to me this thing is turning into a circus.

Stan

Tony
9th February 2012, 18:46
Sounds to me this thing is turning into a circus.

Stan

It was a circus from the start.

chancy
9th February 2012, 19:21
Hello Everyone:
I for one would like to see the challenge that was forthcoming by Bill Brockbrader to Don Shipley. It appears from the statement of Bill Brockbrader to Don Shipley that it was a fair challenge. I don't know either of these people but know that there are lots of people who try to beat a person into the ground. There hasn't been anything that Don Shipley has put on the table that showed positively that Bill Brockbrader wasn't a seal unless I missed it?? IF he did for all we know it could have been faked too!!
After seeing Don Shipley's reply I would say that I certainly don't trust his demeanor.
I say let's give Bill Brockbrader a fair chance since it's "innocent until proven guilty" Not guilty until proven innocent as the story is going.
May Truth rule! Let's get on with the challenge!!
chancy

Tarka the Duck
9th February 2012, 19:21
http://science.howstuffworks.com/navy-seal6.htm

This should help to understand Don's response. It wouldn't prove that he was a SEAL, just that he was a good swimmer/comfortable in the water. I bet that just about any pro surfer or whitewater kayaker could do this without breaking a sweat.

Another important part of basic conditioning is drown-proofing. In this evolution, trainees must learn to swim with both their hands and their feet bound. To pass drown-proofing, trainees enter a 9-foot-deep pool and complete the following steps with their hands and feet tied:

1.bob for 5 minutes
2.float for 5 minutes
3.swim 100 meters
4.bob for 2 minutes
5.do some forward and backward flips
6.swim to the bottom of the pool and retrieve an object with their teeth
7.return to the surface and bob five more times

Oh, is that it?? I thought it was something superhuman...on a good day, I could be up for that ;)

christian
9th February 2012, 19:53
Well, Bill suggested a personal meeting with Don. It seems, Bill is ready to look him in the eye. Don could just agree, to have the chance to meet Bill in person and to bring some surprises, I don't mean an ambush but some tests or questions that would catch Bill on the wrong foot, he could record and release it. That's what I'd do, if I were Don. But that's only given the fact, that Don really has only the agenda and knowledge he claims he has.

btw Kathie, where did you find these letters?

marielle
9th February 2012, 19:54
I'm not sure what to make of Bill Brockbrader but that reply from Don Shipley was simply out of line. I'm not giving someone like that another moment of my attention. He's the type of person who, if it doesn't exist in his limited reality, it must not exist at all.

Lazlo
9th February 2012, 20:07
Well, Bill suggested a personal meeting with Don. It seems, Bill is ready to look him in the eye. Don could just agree, to have the chance to meet Bill in person and to bring some surprises, I don't mean an ambush but some tests or questions that would catch Bill on the wrong foot, he could record and release it. That's what I'd do, if I were Don. But that's only given the fact, that Don really has only the agenda and knowledge he claims he has.

btw Kathie, where did you find these letters?


I don't normally go by Kathie, but here you go :o

http://projectcamelotproductions.com/blog-hp.html

mountain_jim
9th February 2012, 20:57
When I read that about drown-proofing proving seal-hood I laughed. When I entered Georgia Tech in the 70's, drown-proofing was a required course.

Besides the tied-up bobbing period, in order to get an A you also had to swim under-water on one breath for 50 yards. (as I recall). I learned to hyperventilate and hold my breath for 3 minutes prior to accomplishing that. Hopefully without too much brain-damage. :)

For some straight-A students, this course requirement kept them from a perfect 4.0 college result.

And this does not mean I am with Shipley on this - my opinion is still neutral....

Prayer Warrior
9th February 2012, 21:28
....if you were a member of the "Chief's Mess" you'd be a little bit more of the same mind as Senior Chief Shipley... I'm not siding with either until I look them in the eye... but I carried anchors as SC Shipley for 20 of thirty years with CMC nine of those.... I'd lean to SC out of loyalty to the mess first... but I also know the crew sometimes gets pulled aside and tasked with those things that just are and don't get talked about... I also understand his loyalty to his trident... anyone with time acquires quals... DV/ESWS/ASWS/etc... Seal teams just screen a little deeper... and that qual is valued and respected a little bit more at all levels... so SC's defense of team membership might seem "harsh and arrogant" to you, but I'd say he never laid a glove on him... we all walk in the mud sometime in our lives and are asked to come up to the line of how far we'll go in support of what we believe but in reality can never know... but until you sign the papers and take the oath... put your life in the hands of others.... you don't even get honored with the question... none of us is without sin... to lead is to serve... John

chancy
10th February 2012, 04:18
Hello Everyone:
It's ironic that for a guy that everyone has booted to the curb he has stood up to Don Shipley quite nicely!
As stated in past posts I really don't care who is the seal. It obviously means alot to a former seal but to the people who are searching for truth we have to way the words of everyone. Looks to me like Nexus is just itching to take a lick out of project camelot/avalon. Don Shipley is big talk. Bill Brockbrader is cruising along talking to anyone that will listen.
I always like to smile when a guy says that he has the full documents of every seal that ever was a seal BUT doesn't have anything to do with the navy?! Seems like these names would be extremely private or for that matter TOP SECRET and not for anyone but someone on the payroll of the navy. I could be wrong but these names shouldn't be trusted to anyone. I'm sure that there are people who are seals that don't show up on the list. Maybe Bill Brockbrader is one of them. From all the whistleblowers we've listened to over the years they all stated that the fingers don't know what the thumb is doing. Couldn't it be exactly the same for seals?

As for Nexus it sure seems like an attack on project camelot/avalon. Even IF they were right they have sure come back here in droves due to this whistleblower Bill Brockbrader.
Who knows they just might be on the losing team for all we know in regards to this soap opera of Bill Brockbrader.

I'm still 1,000,000 % neutral since this is a soap opera without the tv.
The above is only an observation that needs to be addressed since I'll believe only the person that is telling the truth! When that person is finally at the top then let's give them a great big pat on the back for service well done.
The above is my opinion and no one elses that I know of
chancy

ghostrider
10th February 2012, 04:33
hello, it is the knowledge thats important, not the person. We don't want the truth, so we tear down the messenger. everyone step back. all BW is saying is the human mind will expand. Knowledge is power, wisdom the ability to apply knowledge, when the power is applied, the lights come on....

Little Ishta
10th February 2012, 04:49
Something is not ringing right with me. This is starting to look like a diversion of some kind. There are so many secrets in the Navy and the Army. Not everyone is aware of it even those in the Navy and Army might not know the truth. The phrase 'Hide in plain sight' keeps popping up in my mind as well.