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viking
10th February 2012, 11:11
International Banksters Flee Planet–With Just The Clothes On Their Backs

The International Banksters (colloquialism for “bank gangsters”) have suddenly collapsed and have, per the ETs/EDs (extraterrestrials/extradimensionals), now left the planet, most last night, for an uncertain future. Their final disposition is unknown, but the international banksters, once self-styled lords of the Earth and owners of nearly everything and everyone, would be well advised to enter the (Galactic) Universities of Evolution, as did the first to flee, the Warburgs. This branch of the international banksters, among the owners of the private bank called the Federal Reserve System, read the “handwriting on the wall,” decided the game was up and that survival was now the new objective, survival even if it meant penury. The entry fee was high, but appropriate, coming off the planet essentially naked and devoid of assets, precisely the condition the international banksters have left us in. The rule is simple: “Evolve or die!” Even psychopaths and sociopaths should be able to understand that.
International Banksters–ETs/EDs To Intervene During Ticklish Transition to A New System

The ETs/EDs have been quietly working behind the scenes to keep the entire global economy from collapsing, but the sudden, wholly unexpected abdication of the international banksters has changed the whole situation. Financial experts from the Universities of Evolution are being brought in to sort through an epochal mess created by the international banksters, and that is precisely the right word to describe the howling, tangled, interrelated, booby trapped chaos the international banksters have left behind.

The international banksters wanted a financial collapse, but not too fast or uncontrolled. They wanted draconian social control, but had to do it by increments. They wanted conventional war, nuclear war and engineered disease and “natural disasters” to “thin the herd” and make the population more tractable. The international banksters did this so effectively only 86% of us have to die, provided no replacements are born over their “magic” NWO (New World Order) billion people. The international banksters created a situation where we are enslaved by energy, when it’s there in abundance (and ruthlessly suppressed), enslaved by money, which they control the supply of, enslaved by work, so we won’t have time to think and realize who we really are.

Thanks to the international banksters, our middle class is destroyed (core industries and jobs deliberately moved overseas), our children dazzlingly ignorant, our soils depleted, our food lacking nutrition, yet the international banksters want to ban vitamins and food supplements, meanwhile contaminating our organic food with chemtrails and genetically modified organisms. The international banksters funded terror, narcotrafficking, gunrunning, human slavery and worse, all for ever fatter profits. And when something went wrong, the international banksters, having gang raped us and the planet, not to mention cutting out most of her lungs (forests), had the hubris to have their victims bail them out, then partied on. No more! No more will the international bankster thugs and assassins intimidate and murder the good people who stand up to them. No more will the money of the international banksters buy them legal immunity or a tame, gutless mass media they own. Owned.
International Bankster Juggernaut Must Be Stopped–While We Still Have A Planet!

In order to achieve their horrific NWO, the international banksters have had multiple plans running for centuries, with backups to the backups. The resultant momentum is huge, as seen in yet another headlong rush for war against Syria and Iran, in the slew of international bankster ordered terrible laws coming from Congress which gut the Constitution like a fish, in a generally hostile to us court system beholden to the money power, in a President whose very survival hinges on pleasing the international banksters. We’re to have new biometric ID next year in the States, for driver’s licenses and passports alike, and the rush is on in India to biometrically ID the entire 1.8 billion there. Then there’s a deadly array of super diseases, hidden missiles and static nuclear devices, rigged reactors, weapons for waging war with earthquakes and eruptions, well-funded ideologue crackpots, engineered terrorism, exported torture and torture techniques, and a seething pot of plots, schemes, “justifications,” planned assassinations, destabilizations, new drugs and new attacks on what’s left of our social structure–all intended to create chaos and ring in the NWO so beloved by the international banksters. These and more will have to be stopped and dealt with–quickly.

We may be at war by Monday, you see, for that’s when sealed orders will be opened by the skipper of every U.S. ship in the Persian Gulf. That’s a staggering three carrier battle groups, with one more en route, some partially consisting of French and British escorts. The same ultra reliable sources who provided the dread Monday news also indicated Israel already has overflight permission for Saudi Arabia and Iraq. Somehow these avalanches of disaster, created and nurtured by the international banksters, must be stopped. The would-be combatants must be separated, the issues sorted out, and responsible leaders found to replace the current crop of homicidal maniacs in a bunch of countries. The ETs/EDs are arriving in force and have already repeatedly intervened, not just stopping wars the international banksters wanted, but cleaning up radiation from engineered reactor failures and “natural disasters,” saving millions from horrible deaths.

http://johnkettler.com/international-banksters-capitulate-etseds-confirm/comment-page-3/#comment-721

~~~~~~~~

viking

S-L
10th February 2012, 11:43
The gist behind this message is: trust the ETs/EDs - they have things well in hand. They will deliver us from our corrupt elite! But at what price? How much is sovereignty worth? We need to clean our own mess. Get these ET/EDs out of here! We will deal with them on the level of equals when we are sufficiently ready. Contact with them is ridden with deception, subterfuge, manipulation. It's like thanking the CIA for deposing your country's elite... what on earth are you welcoming in as you do that? People love nothing more than a saviour, whether it's Angelic or in ET/ED form. If you want to be saved, you will be saved, but you will pay with your children's freedom in this world.

Ultima Thule
10th February 2012, 12:08
Have you found any references to any banker actually missing or otherwise gone?
UT

BMJ
10th February 2012, 12:25
have you found any references to any banker actually missing or otherwise gone?
Ut

That's what i would like to know to?

Maia Gabrial
10th February 2012, 13:20
It seems to me that OUR mess is so huge that we need some assistance. ET''s/ED's are willing to help us. I just wish they wouldn't let the bankstars get far before capturing them. They need to be held accountable....They fear their punishments and rightly so.... They thought nothing of murdering people and continuing until the 3/4 of the planet were gone. Now, why wouldn't anyone want to reciprocate that?
Of course Lame Stream isn't going to say a word that's why we haven't heard anything....
I like this article, viking. Hope it's true....

Intranuclear
10th February 2012, 13:36
Assuming ETs are presiding over our planet, would not interfering mean taking control of it?
If Ets are interfering, would not others above them interfere as well?
How far does the hierarchy go?

Mind you, I am not arrogant enough to claim this is not happening, just curious enough to see that stopping the questions is akin to death. Death of the mind and the spirit and the cessation of all growth. Of course, if I were to believe what I just said, that would also be a dead end... Oops, I didn't say that... :)

mountain_jim
10th February 2012, 13:53
I see this was posted on Feb 4.

I only became aware of this source of info this week, from links from Kerry's blog to his. Stories of nuclear submarine being disappeared by ETs before a false flag could be acheived, etc....

Does anyone know anything about this source or where he claims to get his info from? Any experience with past info from him?

Is he channeling this? To make claims such as these without indicating where he gets his info makes me suspect, to say the least.

edit: even his about page gives no indication of where he gets his info:



About My Site
Welcome to my blog site for news and information you simply won’t find anywhere else about what’s really going on/has occurred in UFOs, antigravity, black projects, secret societies, suppressed technologies, cryptozoology and much more.
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I’ve cut through all the hype and revealed the deeply buried facts that will help you decide what to believe and what not to believe about what’s in the mass media. I urge you to use your own judgment and intuition in deciding whether what’s presented here is valid or useful to you.

Feel free to go through my website and get to know more about whatever may be of interest or concern to you. This is just the beginning of a very strange reframing of much of what you “know.”

If you have any questions about my site, please go to the contact page. For questions about a specific post, please submit a cogent comment, and if I can, I’ll reply. I say “if I can” because the volume of comments lately has exploded, and I don’t type fast. Of necessity, I must be about getting posts done first. Else, what’s the point?

Thanks for taking the time to visit my website. Be sure to tell all your friends about it!

John Kettler




From his home page, he is selling his info via ebooks sourced from:



I’m happy to report that I will be releasing a number of my cutting-edge stories as E-books for purchase and download under The Quest for… banner. The first of these is shown below: The Quest for: UFOs, Antigravity, Vimanas and Mystics.

It’s a 51 page E-book (PDF) full of pretty amazing information (if I do say so myself), set up to be readable even at small size on a hand-held device. It includes WORLDWIDE EXCLUSIVE CONTENT available nowhere else, developed from my own network of “deep throats.”

Intranuclear
10th February 2012, 14:13
If submarines are being made to disappear, then revealing the source of such power would be a mistake of unimaginable proportions at best, since that would invite attack. Nor would the doer give a slight damn about others believing this. It would be sufficient for those who have friends on the submarine that no longer exists to suspect something terribly wrong and spread that fear amongst themselves.

S-L
10th February 2012, 14:14
It seems to me that OUR mess is so huge that we need some assistance. ET''s/ED's are willing to help us. I just wish they wouldn't let the bankstars get far before capturing them. They need to be held accountable....They fear their punishments and rightly so.... They thought nothing of murdering people and continuing until the 3/4 of the planet were gone. Now, why wouldn't anyone want to reciprocate that?
Of course Lame Stream isn't going to say a word that's why we haven't heard anything....
I like this article, viking. Hope it's true....

How do you feel about the thousands of people being abducted against their will? Do you know for sure which ET contingent is doing this? Can you tell your friends from your foes? This is such an important topic - an important consideration to make. People are filled with glee with these reports that the corrupt elites are being taken down by saviours from above... but truly, if these reports are correct (not a whole lot of evidence in any of these reports), then we're cheering a foreign power coming into our land to kill some of our own people. Granted, these are bad people, but what kind of precedent are we taking here? What happens when they come after you? Humanity needs to rise and stand as one! We'll take care of our own. We don't need dubious Aliens "taking care" of people for us. What kind of democratic system would this be? Is this a world you want your children to grow up in - a world where powerful Alien neighbours come in and take people out? How seriously have we considered these issues?

NeverMind
10th February 2012, 14:18
The International Banksters (colloquialism for “bank gangsters”) have suddenly collapsed and have, per the ETs/EDs (extraterrestrials/extradimensionals), now left the planet, most last night, for an uncertain future.

Sorry.... WHAT?

I want names. Who are these bankers (OK, banksters)?

I visited the website, and this was published on February 4th - that's a week ago.
Wouldn't someone have noticed the absence of these banksters by now and notified the public?

Also, no war broke out last Monday. (True, he only said it "may".)
I suppose those orders weren't opened and read?

But hey, I am not complaining. :)

WhiteFeather
10th February 2012, 14:22
Were the politicians right behind them in flight. LMK

mountain_jim
10th February 2012, 15:32
More sources info (no shrinking violet he is): :)

http://www.disclose.tv/forum/identifying-the-motivations-activities-of-extraterrestrial-t67407.html




Zaradia
February 8, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Hello John,
I have just discovered your blog and I find it fascinating!
I have been unable to locate information about the ETs/EDs that you are writing about.
Who are they? Where are they from? How are they communicating with you?
Why have they chosen you to relay this info?
In Sincere Appreciation,
Zaradia

Reply
John Kettler
February 8, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Zaradia,

I’m glad you found my blog and are engrossed by it! In order to save a lot of time and work, I’ll answer with a previous reply to much the same question.

“Submitted on 2012/01/18 at 5:53 pm | In reply to nightbird.
nightbird,

I’m NOT channeling anything, for I’m not now, nor have ever been, a channel. I’m not J.Z. Knight, and Ramtha doesn’t come in while I’m gone! I’m naturally psychic and have also had formal training through Silva Mind Control (Basic and Graduate level). My connection with the ETs/EDs is via direct interdimensional telepathy or same relayed to me by highly trusted individuals. I did, some years ago, attend a channeling, where, to my surprise I personally and directly “heard” and to a limited degree “saw” what was going on in someone’s else’s session. THAT got my attention and forced me to reevaluate what I’d frankly thought was craziness. Later, I found myself increasingly telepathic with various people I knew, and that seems to have cleared the path for the situation as it stands today. The commencement of my blog seems to have been the starting gun for what’s happened since. The blog has the force it does because of the coming together of superb information from here (Earth) and there (ETs/EDs), which I then use my own unique gifts and experience to turn into simply shattering posts. Communication is full duplex, like a phone call, but I have severely limited visual capability, mostly in the form of being “shown” things. Have had only the odd glimpse of my ET/ED military contact and none of others I also have “met” recently. Hope this helps clear things up.”

Am not trying to be coy about my off planet contacts, but have been “told” it’s not the time to reveal the specifics, since that might create an opportunity for the opposition. There is still a war raging in the higher dimensions, lumps (the kind requiring hospitalization) are still being taken, and liberating Earth is affected by what happens “upstairs,” so I’d rather err on the side of caution when it comes to them and where they’re from. Suffice it to say we are kindred spirits, have great mutual respect and get on famously. We make quite a team, and more and more groups are joining the fight.

Short answer to your question is: right person, with the right skills, training and mindset to deal with beyond astounding things. I’ve had numerous past lives as a warrior (Reiki practitioner found a cannonball hole through my chest, a sword slash to my head and a spear thrust in the thigh), worked over a decade in this life as a military analyst, understand the military mind, speak a common vocabulary with them, and we are all highly creative when it comes to problem solving and developing new approaches. This’ll give some background on the “players.”

http://www.galacticdiplomacy.com/GD-ET-Motivations-1.htm



from above link, the intro text below, followed by a table and links discussing ET races cooperating with Military Ind Complex and those outside of that.


IDENTIFYING THE MOTIVATIONS & ACTIVITIES OF EXTRATERRESTRIAL RACES

Anyone intending to practice Track Two Galactic Diplomacy requires some understanding of the extraterrestrial races interacting with humanity, and an appreciation of their various motivations and activities. What follows is based on an ongoing research project to develop a comprehensive typology of the most significant extraterrestrial races interacting with humanity. The original report from which this information is drawn is quite long (17,000 words - click here for original), so it is recommended that you read the following information in the four sections that respectively describe the various extraterrestrial races in terms of their relationships with government agencies. The following typology is largely based on information from a variety of whistleblowers and contactees which provides the most reliable information on extraterrestrial races. Other sources will only be used to augment these in order to give a more coherent description of these races. The tables summarizing the motivations and activities of the various extraterrestrials races are evaluations based on the most accurate available information and are intended to give a reasonable assessment of the impact of these extraterrestrial races on human society. It needs to be stressed that the following information will undergo further revision as more reliable information is gained.


Michael E. Salla, PhD (January 16, 2005)

*********
1. Introduction - Outlines the strongest evidence for different extraterrestrial races interacting with humanity

2. Extraterrestrial Races Cooperating with the Military-Industrial-Extraterrestrial Complex

Short Grays Tall Grays/Tall Whites Reptilians Draconians Sirius B Anunnaki

Table 1. Extraterrestrial Races Cooperating with the Military-Industrial-Extraterrestrial Complex

3. Extraterrestrial Races Outside of the Military-Industrial-Extraterrestrial Complex

Telosians Lyrans Vegans Pleiadians Procyons Tau Cetians
Andromedans Sirius A Ummites Alpha Centaurians Arcturians

Table 2. Extraterrestrial Races Outside the Military-Industrial-Extraterrestrial Complex

4. Conclusion - Identifying the global impact of various extraterrestrial races interacting with humanity

hardrock
10th February 2012, 15:43
The banksters are just puppets of the Sanhedrin. Your just lopping off leaves from the weed removing the banksters. You need to follow it all the way to the roots.

NeverMind
10th February 2012, 15:48
Thank you for that update, MountainJim.

It may be just me, but I find it exceedingly odd that someone would be asking questions about the "ET" - but no questions seem to be raised (among the commentators) about the identity of these "banksters" who have allegedly left the planet. Who are they? Why haven't we heard about their disappearance? Where's the proof of their disappearance?

What next? Are these channellers going to claim that the governments of the world have been overthrown, the Garden of Eden has been restored on Earth - finally! hurrah! all rejoice! - none of which we'll be able to actually SEE, but hey, they know what they're talking about, and who are we to question it?

It may sound absurd - it IS absurd - but it doesn't seem unthinkable at all, based on the latest developments.
This is getting weird. Beyond weird.

pyriel
10th February 2012, 16:03
I'll take a line from the movie, Zombieland..

It's time to nut up or shut up..

All this secret stuff cant be a good thing.. who knows tho..

Intranuclear
10th February 2012, 16:04
NeverMind,

If it is absurd, then of course there is nothing to note, right?
If it is not absurd, then of course the names will surface, right?
If you are unable to see what these people see, then its something akin to arguing color with a blind person, right?
If you could see what these people see, then you would be the one with the trumpet, right?

There are of course more questions, but not enough time to ask them.

jackovesk
10th February 2012, 16:11
International Banksters Flee Planet–With Just The Clothes On Their Backs

The International Banksters (colloquialism for “bank gangsters”) have suddenly collapsed and have, per the ETs/EDs (extraterrestrials/extradimensionals), now left the planet, most last night, for an uncertain future. Their final disposition is unknown, but the international banksters, once self-styled lords of the Earth and owners of nearly everything and everyone, would be well advised to enter the (Galactic) Universities of Evolution, as did the first to flee, the Warburgs. This branch of the international banksters, among the owners of the private bank called the Federal Reserve System, read the “handwriting on the wall,” decided the game was up and that survival was now the new objective, survival even if it meant penury. The entry fee was high, but appropriate, coming off the planet essentially naked and devoid of assets, precisely the condition the international banksters have left us in. The rule is simple: “Evolve or die!” Even psychopaths and sociopaths should be able to understand that.
International Banksters–ETs/EDs To Intervene During Ticklish Transition to A New System

The ETs/EDs have been quietly working behind the scenes to keep the entire global economy from collapsing, but the sudden, wholly unexpected abdication of the international banksters has changed the whole situation. Financial experts from the Universities of Evolution are being brought in to sort through an epochal mess created by the international banksters, and that is precisely the right word to describe the howling, tangled, interrelated, booby trapped chaos the international banksters have left behind.

The international banksters wanted a financial collapse, but not too fast or uncontrolled. They wanted draconian social control, but had to do it by increments. They wanted conventional war, nuclear war and engineered disease and “natural disasters” to “thin the herd” and make the population more tractable. The international banksters did this so effectively only 86% of us have to die, provided no replacements are born over their “magic” NWO (New World Order) billion people. The international banksters created a situation where we are enslaved by energy, when it’s there in abundance (and ruthlessly suppressed), enslaved by money, which they control the supply of, enslaved by work, so we won’t have time to think and realize who we really are.

Thanks to the international banksters, our middle class is destroyed (core industries and jobs deliberately moved overseas), our children dazzlingly ignorant, our soils depleted, our food lacking nutrition, yet the international banksters want to ban vitamins and food supplements, meanwhile contaminating our organic food with chemtrails and genetically modified organisms. The international banksters funded terror, narcotrafficking, gunrunning, human slavery and worse, all for ever fatter profits. And when something went wrong, the international banksters, having gang raped us and the planet, not to mention cutting out most of her lungs (forests), had the hubris to have their victims bail them out, then partied on. No more! No more will the international bankster thugs and assassins intimidate and murder the good people who stand up to them. No more will the money of the international banksters buy them legal immunity or a tame, gutless mass media they own. Owned.
International Bankster Juggernaut Must Be Stopped–While We Still Have A Planet!

In order to achieve their horrific NWO, the international banksters have had multiple plans running for centuries, with backups to the backups. The resultant momentum is huge, as seen in yet another headlong rush for war against Syria and Iran, in the slew of international bankster ordered terrible laws coming from Congress which gut the Constitution like a fish, in a generally hostile to us court system beholden to the money power, in a President whose very survival hinges on pleasing the international banksters. We’re to have new biometric ID next year in the States, for driver’s licenses and passports alike, and the rush is on in India to biometrically ID the entire 1.8 billion there. Then there’s a deadly array of super diseases, hidden missiles and static nuclear devices, rigged reactors, weapons for waging war with earthquakes and eruptions, well-funded ideologue crackpots, engineered terrorism, exported torture and torture techniques, and a seething pot of plots, schemes, “justifications,” planned assassinations, destabilizations, new drugs and new attacks on what’s left of our social structure–all intended to create chaos and ring in the NWO so beloved by the international banksters. These and more will have to be stopped and dealt with–quickly.

We may be at war by Monday, you see, for that’s when sealed orders will be opened by the skipper of every U.S. ship in the Persian Gulf. That’s a staggering three carrier battle groups, with one more en route, some partially consisting of French and British escorts. The same ultra reliable sources who provided the dread Monday news also indicated Israel already has overflight permission for Saudi Arabia and Iraq. Somehow these avalanches of disaster, created and nurtured by the international banksters, must be stopped. The would-be combatants must be separated, the issues sorted out, and responsible leaders found to replace the current crop of homicidal maniacs in a bunch of countries. The ETs/EDs are arriving in force and have already repeatedly intervened, not just stopping wars the international banksters wanted, but cleaning up radiation from engineered reactor failures and “natural disasters,” saving millions from horrible deaths.

http://johnkettler.com/international-banksters-capitulate-etseds-confirm/comment-page-3/#comment-721

~~~~~~~~

viking


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D67kmFzSh_o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D67kmFzSh_o

You must start asking yourself Viking (WHY) you will (NEVER EVER) have real contact with ET's..???

RMorgan
10th February 2012, 16:13
I´ll believe it when I see evidence that any bankster really left the planet. :)

Of course, they could also say that they left clones in their places, so their absence wouldn´t be noticed... ;)

Cheers,

Raf.

viking
10th February 2012, 16:15
International Banksters Flee Planet–With Just The Clothes On Their Backs

The International Banksters (colloquialism for “bank gangsters”) have suddenly collapsed and have, per the ETs/EDs (extraterrestrials/extradimensionals), now left the planet, most last night, for an uncertain future. Their final disposition is unknown, but the international banksters, once self-styled lords of the Earth and owners of nearly everything and everyone, would be well advised to enter the (Galactic) Universities of Evolution, as did the first to flee, the Warburgs. This branch of the international banksters, among the owners of the private bank called the Federal Reserve System, read the “handwriting on the wall,” decided the game was up and that survival was now the new objective, survival even if it meant penury. The entry fee was high, but appropriate, coming off the planet essentially naked and devoid of assets, precisely the condition the international banksters have left us in. The rule is simple: “Evolve or die!” Even psychopaths and sociopaths should be able to understand that.
International Banksters–ETs/EDs To Intervene During Ticklish Transition to A New System

The ETs/EDs have been quietly working behind the scenes to keep the entire global economy from collapsing, but the sudden, wholly unexpected abdication of the international banksters has changed the whole situation. Financial experts from the Universities of Evolution are being brought in to sort through an epochal mess created by the international banksters, and that is precisely the right word to describe the howling, tangled, interrelated, booby trapped chaos the international banksters have left behind.

The international banksters wanted a financial collapse, but not too fast or uncontrolled. They wanted draconian social control, but had to do it by increments. They wanted conventional war, nuclear war and engineered disease and “natural disasters” to “thin the herd” and make the population more tractable. The international banksters did this so effectively only 86% of us have to die, provided no replacements are born over their “magic” NWO (New World Order) billion people. The international banksters created a situation where we are enslaved by energy, when it’s there in abundance (and ruthlessly suppressed), enslaved by money, which they control the supply of, enslaved by work, so we won’t have time to think and realize who we really are.

Thanks to the international banksters, our middle class is destroyed (core industries and jobs deliberately moved overseas), our children dazzlingly ignorant, our soils depleted, our food lacking nutrition, yet the international banksters want to ban vitamins and food supplements, meanwhile contaminating our organic food with chemtrails and genetically modified organisms. The international banksters funded terror, narcotrafficking, gunrunning, human slavery and worse, all for ever fatter profits. And when something went wrong, the international banksters, having gang raped us and the planet, not to mention cutting out most of her lungs (forests), had the hubris to have their victims bail them out, then partied on. No more! No more will the international bankster thugs and assassins intimidate and murder the good people who stand up to them. No more will the money of the international banksters buy them legal immunity or a tame, gutless mass media they own. Owned.
International Bankster Juggernaut Must Be Stopped–While We Still Have A Planet!

In order to achieve their horrific NWO, the international banksters have had multiple plans running for centuries, with backups to the backups. The resultant momentum is huge, as seen in yet another headlong rush for war against Syria and Iran, in the slew of international bankster ordered terrible laws coming from Congress which gut the Constitution like a fish, in a generally hostile to us court system beholden to the money power, in a President whose very survival hinges on pleasing the international banksters. We’re to have new biometric ID next year in the States, for driver’s licenses and passports alike, and the rush is on in India to biometrically ID the entire 1.8 billion there. Then there’s a deadly array of super diseases, hidden missiles and static nuclear devices, rigged reactors, weapons for waging war with earthquakes and eruptions, well-funded ideologue crackpots, engineered terrorism, exported torture and torture techniques, and a seething pot of plots, schemes, “justifications,” planned assassinations, destabilizations, new drugs and new attacks on what’s left of our social structure–all intended to create chaos and ring in the NWO so beloved by the international banksters. These and more will have to be stopped and dealt with–quickly.

We may be at war by Monday, you see, for that’s when sealed orders will be opened by the skipper of every U.S. ship in the Persian Gulf. That’s a staggering three carrier battle groups, with one more en route, some partially consisting of French and British escorts. The same ultra reliable sources who provided the dread Monday news also indicated Israel already has overflight permission for Saudi Arabia and Iraq. Somehow these avalanches of disaster, created and nurtured by the international banksters, must be stopped. The would-be combatants must be separated, the issues sorted out, and responsible leaders found to replace the current crop of homicidal maniacs in a bunch of countries. The ETs/EDs are arriving in force and have already repeatedly intervened, not just stopping wars the international banksters wanted, but cleaning up radiation from engineered reactor failures and “natural disasters,” saving millions from horrible deaths.

http://johnkettler.com/international-banksters-capitulate-etseds-confirm/comment-page-3/#comment-721

~~~~~~~~

viking


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D67kmFzSh_o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D67kmFzSh_o

You must start asking yourself Viking (WHY) you will (NEVER EVER) have real contact with ET's..???

What on earth are you talking about...and what has your remark got to do with the price of bread?

Have you got some sort of a problem ... ??

viking

NeverMind
10th February 2012, 16:16
Yes, of course, Intranuclear.

I don't know how relevant this is for others reading this - probably not very much - but I just have to say that, while I personally have no investment whatsoever in these stories (as may be abundantly clear from my other contributions in other threads :-)), as a student of human nature I find this emerging trend - I do hope it's not a trend - quite bizarre and worrisome. It's one thing not to rely too much on the rational mind; but it's quite another thing to give free rein to blatant irrationality - and not even question it.
It may also end up discrediting the "alternative" community, or at least inflicting huge damage on it.
(But again, that's not something that I personally have to worry about.
I believe in personal and individual responsibility.)

WyoSeeker
10th February 2012, 17:43
Common sense has left the building. :noidea:

NeverMind
10th February 2012, 18:03
as did the first to flee, the Warburgs.

I'll try one last time, and then I'll give it a rest. :)

So, we have a single name - "the Warburgs".
Who exactly do "they" mean? Max Warburg?
Or the head of the Warburg bank, Christian Olearius?
Or... ?

This should be easy enough to check out.
But I have the feeling nobody will. :)

(I don't mean this forum, I know people are only relaying information here.)




P.S. In a hilarious (if you like black humour) coincidence, Aby Warburg - nothing to do with banking (he forfeited his right and duty to be the head of the family bank), but was a member of the family - did "flee" the great Wall Street crash of 1929: he died three days before it.
Suspicious, eh? :)

(Which was a great loss, not only to his family, I would imagine, but to art history.)

Maia Gabrial
11th February 2012, 00:40
Assuming ETs are presiding over our planet, would not interfering mean taking control of it?
If Ets are interfering, would not others above them interfere as well?
How far does the hierarchy go?

Mind you, I am not arrogant enough to claim this is not happening, just curious enough to see that stopping the questions is akin to death. Death of the mind and the spirit and the cessation of all growth. Of course, if I were to believe what I just said, that would also be a dead end... Oops, I didn't say that...

As I see it, Intranuclear we already have aliens here interfering with us. They have been here for some time and they've caused nothing but misery and suffering. If we need any kind of help, it's serious help rounding those aliens up and getting them off our planet. As I understand it, we're getting help because enough of us on the planet have asked for it. ET's/ED's have greater understanding of Universal Laws than we do. So, they do what they can. But seriously, the rest is up to us.

BTW love your avatar. I could watchit for hours.... :becky:

truth4me
11th February 2012, 00:58
If submarines are being made to disappear, then revealing the source of such power would be a mistake of unimaginable proportions at best, since that would invite attack. Nor would the doer give a slight damn about others believing this. It would be sufficient for those who have friends on the submarine that no longer exists to suspect something terribly wrong and spread that fear amongst themselves.
it seems somewhere else I read about some submarines disappearing....

evancruz1
11th February 2012, 02:08
So much to think about here... Some say ED's/ET's of the benevolent type are here to help. Is it possible that we have different perceptions of what help is? It's possible this "help" has been going on for quite some time, we just do not recognize it. Or the ones whom do see and understand this "help" but are unable to show proof of this.

Maybe the confusion lies in whether or not faith comes into play here along with a positive outlook. Lets just say for a moment that a goup of us was walking down a street. We hear screaming, we bolt down the street to see a young girl being beaten and raped. Would you call the police and stand there and wait? Would you let fate decide the outcome? Or the most likely scenario (the one that comes to mind first) is that whom ever is commiting the evil crime is going down immediately!! NO hesitation...

So here we are on planet Earth, in trouble but hanging in there but on the verge of self inahlation. Our brothers and sisters from the stars whom are quantum beyond our intelligence, physical, and spiritual abilities are watching. Waiting and possibly interacting with those they deem worthy for a time when a critical moment has arrived. A moment that without their help will spell the end of Earth as we know it. We call this our planet but I believe we are just tenants here.

We help people in trouble, that's what being human is. We would help another world in trouble if we could... Does anyone disagree with this?
So why is it so far fetched that these loving brothers and sisters from the stars would not help if they can? This makes no sense to me... I've had experiences that let me know they are out there. But I've never seen them... At least I can't remember if I had...

It may take the screams of billions for this help to arrive, we just don't know. That's interesting part, we don't know but should have faith that we have not been forsaken. We as they are most likely thinking we need to help ourselves first... And they would be right, however this isn't the 1800's.
We are seriously outgunned, fighting is not an option. We must awaken and focus on the world we want at a slightly faster pace then we have been.

I'm sure many of us feel that something is coming... Fear mongering should be ignored and filed accordingly...
Peace
Just my 2 cents...

etm567
11th February 2012, 02:27
The gist behind this message is: trust the ETs/EDs - they have things well in hand. They will deliver us from our corrupt elite! But at what price? How much is sovereignty worth? We need to clean our own mess. Get these ET/EDs out of here! We will deal with them on the level of equals when we are sufficiently ready. Contact with them is ridden with deception, subterfuge, manipulation. It's like thanking the CIA for deposing your country's elite... what on earth are you welcoming in as you do that? People love nothing more than a saviour, whether it's Angelic or in ET/ED form. If you want to be saved, you will be saved, but you will pay with your children's freedom in this world.

Speak for yourself. :)

Intranuclear
11th February 2012, 03:58
evancruz,

If there are helpful ETs, then they would not reveal themselves for multiple reasons. For one, most distrust power, thus those most afraid of it, especially if they fear that it will turn on them, will blame all manner of horrible things on those with power over them and will try to turn others against those with the power. That is simply the way fear works.
Some people need to see something with their eyes before they accept the reality of it, such as the existence of ETs, however, most astronomers would tell you that it is inconceivable that we are the only life in this universe. I also need no proof. The number of planets in this galaxy alone are mind numbing.

It is true that some things may be relatively easy to judge as being wrong, like seeing a girl being raped, especially when there is sufficient evidence of screams, blood, physical fight and other helpful hints of an actual crime. At such a time, if I were to come across such a thing, it would indeed be foolish to await the police. However, exactly what are my options if the girl's life is being threatened? Do I take the chance of yelling at the rapist and allow him to drive a knife into the girl to silence her?
Do I silently sneak up on the man and what, kill him? Hit him over the head with a rock?
Really, what should I do?
How do I insure that my actions will not cause more harm, both to the girl and to myself and possibly to others?
Should I carry a weapon at all times to take action just in case?

I dare anyone to answer this question with so much confidence that no questions remain!

So, it will be with the ETs. How would they interfere?
If they have been here for millenia, then it is also their home. Hell, I haven't lived that long on this planet and it is mine.

I will not ascribe motive to ETs as I cannot even ascribe motive to most people's actions. There is infinite motive and infinite agenda. Everyone has a journey, and some journeys go straight to hell. I try to do my part, whatever it is, as well as I can comprehend it. I cannot really know how my actions will be judged in the future which I was/am a part of creating.

Having said all that, I would indeed like confirmation for many things. ETs being one of them. Evidence of universal life will indeed I think free us of the tyranny of those who think secrets are a good thing and that humanity is not ready for the truth. It is possible that there was a valid moment in history where those in power feared collapse of society. I think that if anything, society will collapse unless this truth is revealed!

Thank you all.

Cilka
11th February 2012, 04:02
The gist behind this message is: trust the ETs/EDs - they have things well in hand. They will deliver us from our corrupt elite! But at what price? How much is sovereignty worth? We need to clean our own mess. Get these ET/EDs out of here! We will deal with them on the level of equals when we are sufficiently ready. Contact with them is ridden with deception, subterfuge, manipulation. It's like thanking the CIA for deposing your country's elite... what on earth are you welcoming in as you do that? People love nothing more than a saviour, whether it's Angelic or in ET/ED form. If you want to be saved, you will be saved, but you will pay with your children's freedom in this world.

I totally agree with you S-L. I really don't get people who are constantly looking up to someone else to save their mess that they created in the first place, and especially when these entities they are befriending are ET's. How can anyone trust an ET to take care of our mess when you cannot even trust the humans. ET's are creative marketers of their lies, and they sure will be the last ones on this planet that I will put my trust into. It is time for them to leave our home; they cannot play nice then we will have to make them pack up their mess and will send them off to the abyss like Gagarin was sent off into space. We, humans, can take care of ourselves just fine.

etm567
11th February 2012, 05:11
I totally agree with you S-L. I really don't get people who are constantly looking up to someone else to save their mess that they created in the first place, and especially when these entities they are befriending are ET's. How can anyone trust an ET to take care of our mess when you cannot even trust the humans. ET's are creative marketers of their lies, and they sure will be the last ones on this planet that I will put my trust into. It is time for them to leave our home; they cannot play nice then we will have to make them pack up their mess and will send them off to the abyss like Gagarin was sent off into space. We, humans, can take care of ourselves just fine.

I wouldn't say all ETs are good guys, but there are definitely some out there that I would trust a darn sight further than many human beings. And the canard about asking them to clean up our mess is getting kind of old. That's what everyone says who wants to say boo on ETs -- We can't ask them for help! Why do you want to be saved? We mustn't ask the ETs to save us! We must save ourselves from this mess, we get ourseslves into it!

Well, I've got news for you. I didn't have anything to do with this mess we are in, nor did most human beings living on this planet today. The ones who have caused all this trouble have been pretty much in control for thousands of years, and I think some of them are certainly skilled magicians. They practice black magic. They kill helpless innocents in blood sacrifices and deliberately create massive suffering on a scale none of us can truly comprehend.

I do not think it is a fair fight. I'm very glad there are some folks fighting on our side, those "white hats," whose hats I hope are truly white. Some whistleblowers. People like Bill and Kerry. David Wilcock and Ben Fulford. Even Bill Wood.

The bad guys have a lot more power than we do. They have a lot more knowledge than we do. They've got pretty much ALL the money on the planet, unless that is finally changing. And they've got the media under their complete control, not to mention most of the governments of the developed, western supposed "democracies," the countries that are supposed to be free, like this USA here, that isn't anymore.

Personally, I would be most appreciative of any real assistance we could get from the good guys. And I am deeply appreciative to them for all the nuclear detonations they have stopped, and for keeping World War III from starting here and now. Thank you, ETs! Many, many thanks! Please help us some more, would you?

This is directed just to the good guys, not the bad ones. This gratitude is not directed to any Orion Crusaders or Reptilians and Reptiloids or whatever you want to call them. Just the good guys. And to you good guys, my most sincere thanks.

ETM

evancruz1
11th February 2012, 07:32
Well said ETM! You are so right by showing gratitude, we shouldn't be without it.:tea:

viking
11th February 2012, 11:57
Just got this update via email ... thought I'd share ...

~~~~~~~~

THIS WEEK:
Kerry on KHEN.org Radio
To LISTEN to the archived show on Khen.org CLICK HERE ( http://www.givemesometruth.info/cassidyharris212.mp3 ) - Feb 7th Kerry was interviewed by
Guest Host Mike Harris and Mel Hallett of Truth Oracle Radio
***
Two More Upcoming Livestream Roundtables and Interviews:
1. INTERVIEW WITH JOHN KETTLER : regarding his book "UFOs, Antigravity, Vimanas & Mystics", current events and his blog; contacts on and off-world...
- Monday, February 13 at 7pm PST
2. INTERSTELLAR FLUFFY CLOUD - 3rd Livestream event to come next week sometime on the Interstellar Fluffy Cloud... with Chad Adams, Susan Rennison
MORE DETAILS TO COME .... TBA

~~~~~~~~

viking

~~~~~~~~


Have you found any references to any banker actually missing or otherwise gone?
UT

No but looking into it...

viking

D-Day
11th February 2012, 12:27
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Have you found any references to any banker actually missing or otherwise gone?
UT


No but looking into it...

viking

Well, make sure you do viking.

Because at this point I consider your thread here to be little more than a distraction and complete waste of time.

I've not been able to find even the slightest bit of evidence to substantiate the wildly outlandish claims being made in the article you posted in your OP.

Which makes me wonder if you found that ridiculous article and simply posted it on here without doing any background checking at all to see if it was legit first???

That said, just reading the damn thing should've been enough to set alarm bells ringing and red flags popping up all over the bloody place right from the get-go.

So yeah, I'll be interested to see what you come up with.

I look forward to you sharing your findings with us......................

P.S. sorry if this comes across as being a bit blunt, but I"m getting really sick and tired of all the rubbish that's passing for "worthy" thread-starting material/information on this forum lately.

viking
11th February 2012, 12:40
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Have you found any references to any banker actually missing or otherwise gone?
UT


No but looking into it...

viking

Well, make sure you do viking.

Because at this point I consider your thread here to be little more than a distraction and complete waste of time.

I've not been able to find even the slightest bit of evidence to substantiate the wildly outlandish claims being made in the article you posted in your OP.

Which makes me wonder if you found that ridiculous article and simply posted it on here without doing any background checking at all to see if it was legit first???

That said, just reading the damn thing should've been enough to set alarm bells ringing and red flags popping up all over the bloody place right from the get-go.

So yeah, I'll be interested to see what you come up with.

I look forward to you sharing your findings with us......................

P.S. sorry if this comes across as being a bit blunt, but I"m getting really sick and tired of all the rubbish that's passing for "worthy" thread-starting material/information on this forum lately.

I have had someone contact me with substantiation and confirmation of the content here, I have given my word that he/she remains anonymous ...

It will be interesting to see how the interview goes with Kerry ... we'll see...

And yes, yes your post was a bit sparky, but no worries my skin is rather thick ! ;-)

I will endeavour to find out what I can outside the arena...

viking

crested-duck
11th February 2012, 12:59
If anybody left the planet it was thanks to the spacecraft that we paid for. And if anyone thinks somebody other than the self proclaimed elite's got to use such a craft your just not up to speed on current events. They might just be hideing in south america with the nazis and the Busch's.

mountain_jim
11th February 2012, 16:32
I have had someone contact me with substantiation and confirmation of the content here, I have given my word that he/she remains anonymous ...

It will be interesting to see how the interview goes with Kerry ... we'll see...



I would like to have contacts like that. DreamsInDigital also asserts such contacts in regard's to comfirmation of Boylan's old (2007) clone-base-destroyed story...

I woke up thinking about this thread, and all of JOHN KETTLER's content, wondering if he was a newly activated AI/Cabal synthetic telepathy receiver of disinfo.

Not saying I believe that, but without some proof or confirmation, it is not a great leap to think he either may be being fed disinfo or may have consciously created it to promote what he is selling, via ebook or physical books.

Time will Tell I guess.

S-L
11th February 2012, 17:19
I totally agree with you S-L. I really don't get people who are constantly looking up to someone else to save their mess that they created in the first place, and especially when these entities they are befriending are ET's. How can anyone trust an ET to take care of our mess when you cannot even trust the humans. ET's are creative marketers of their lies, and they sure will be the last ones on this planet that I will put my trust into. It is time for them to leave our home; they cannot play nice then we will have to make them pack up their mess and will send them off to the abyss like Gagarin was sent off into space. We, humans, can take care of ourselves just fine.

I wouldn't say all ETs are good guys, but there are definitely some out there that I would trust a darn sight further than many human beings. And the canard about asking them to clean up our mess is getting kind of old. That's what everyone says who wants to say boo on ETs -- We can't ask them for help! Why do you want to be saved? We mustn't ask the ETs to save us! We must save ourselves from this mess, we get ourseslves into it!

Well, I've got news for you. I didn't have anything to do with this mess we are in, nor did most human beings living on this planet today. The ones who have caused all this trouble have been pretty much in control for thousands of years, and I think some of them are certainly skilled magicians. They practice black magic. They kill helpless innocents in blood sacrifices and deliberately create massive suffering on a scale none of us can truly comprehend.

I do not think it is a fair fight. I'm very glad there are some folks fighting on our side, those "white hats," whose hats I hope are truly white. Some whistleblowers. People like Bill and Kerry. David Wilcock and Ben Fulford. Even Bill Wood.

The bad guys have a lot more power than we do. They have a lot more knowledge than we do. They've got pretty much ALL the money on the planet, unless that is finally changing. And they've got the media under their complete control, not to mention most of the governments of the developed, western supposed "democracies," the countries that are supposed to be free, like this USA here, that isn't anymore.

Personally, I would be most appreciative of any real assistance we could get from the good guys. And I am deeply appreciative to them for all the nuclear detonations they have stopped, and for keeping World War III from starting here and now. Thank you, ETs! Many, many thanks! Please help us some more, would you?

This is directed just to the good guys, not the bad ones. This gratitude is not directed to any Orion Crusaders or Reptilians and Reptiloids or whatever you want to call them. Just the good guys. And to you good guys, my most sincere thanks.

ETM

Why would ETs come here and help us get rid of the "bad guys"? Why presume they are doing it for our benefit, if it's even true these things are happening (has anyone offered any evidence as yet?) Can you entertain the possibility that perhaps they are here for their own self-interest, not ours?

Ontarioguy
11th February 2012, 17:41
Hi Viking?????? You darn well KEEP on KEEPIN ON posting as you are!! I have a brain and am well able to decide what I will "buy into" and what my intuition ( common sense) tells me not to buy into. I see sooooooo many on Avalon lately telling others what to post and what not to post....and to keep their negative comments to themselves or whatever.....and it boggles my mind as to why anyone else would wish or feel the urge?? to point a finger at another and accuse that other of being this way or that way....etc.....a distraction or a negatvie person or whatever the case! BALONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please everyone....do like Viking and myself....grow thick skin....DISCERN what (you choose) to read.....and get on down the road!!! ie: move on!!!
But for Heavens sakes....lets LIFT one another UP.......and not be tearin one another down. I rarely comment on Avalon at all to be honest....I am to busy reading, hahaha....and YES using common sense to decide what I will buy into. And hey.....if what I buy into is false? then so be it!! No biggy for me....I move onto the next find. But I certainly do not blame someone for what I CHOZE TO READ!!!!! Let me say why I took the time to post this.......... I have had 3 people in the last week ( friends on here) say to me they are ready to EXIT the site due to the overwhelming obvious NEGATIVE slant that many and most posts are turing into. The 3 have not left so far. Yeah sooo many start off very exciting and positive.....and then along comes a "disturber" who knows why??? but they come along and have to DUMP NEG into a perfectly good POSITIVE thread!!! Well as for me I REFUSE to participate....they aint gonna "shake my tree" I CHOOSE to remain optimisitc no matter what. Is it always easy to???? NO it is not.....but I do not give up one bit. Lets all do the same and see what can happen :) :) Whhhhoooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!
Lightweight babyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

truthseekerdan
11th February 2012, 17:57
Yeah, but I heard they're coming back with a vengeance... :rolleyes:

He_PWsJqsVY

Billy
11th February 2012, 18:00
The gist behind this message is: trust the ETs/EDs - they have things well in hand. They will deliver us from our corrupt elite! But at what price? How much is sovereignty worth? We need to clean our own mess. Get these ET/EDs out of here! We will deal with them on the level of equals when we are sufficiently ready. Contact with them is ridden with deception, subterfuge, manipulation. It's like thanking the CIA for deposing your country's elite... what on earth are you welcoming in as you do that? People love nothing more than a saviour, whether it's Angelic or in ET/ED form. If you want to be saved, you will be saved, but you will pay with your children's freedom in this world.

I totally agree with you S-L. I really don't get people who are constantly looking up to someone else to save their mess that they created in the first place, and especially when these entities they are befriending are ET's. How can anyone trust an ET to take care of our mess when you cannot even trust the humans. ET's are creative marketers of their lies, and they sure will be the last ones on this planet that I will put my trust into. It is time for them to leave our home; they cannot play nice then we will have to make them pack up their mess and will send them off to the abyss like Gagarin was sent off into space. We, humans, can take care of ourselves just fine.

Well done guys, At last someone with a solution, Go for it. Clean up our planet. Here you go.

13619

After you clean out the Cabal, Cilka you clean the skys and the seas, S-L you clean the land and fresh water, when you are done you can start on the Uranium buried deep in the earth. And there are helpers at hand. You are our savours. Thank you so much. :thumb:

13617 13618

Mightyram
11th February 2012, 18:10
Hi Viking?????? You darn well KEEP on KEEPIN ON posting as you are!! I have a brain and am well able to decide what I will "buy into" and what my intuition ( common sense) tells me not to buy into. I see sooooooo many on Avalon lately telling others what to post and what not to post....and to keep their negative comments to themselves or whatever.....and it boggles my mind as to why anyone else would wish or feel the urge?? to point a finger at another and accuse that other of being this way or that way....etc.....a distraction or a negatvie person or whatever the case! BALONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please everyone....do like Viking and myself....grow thick skin....DISCERN what (you choose) to read.....and get on down the road!!! ie: move on!!!
But for Heavens sakes....lets LIFT one another UP.......and not be tearin one another down. I rarely comment on Avalon at all to be honest....I am to busy reading, hahaha....and YES using common sense to decide what I will buy into. And hey.....if what I buy into is false? then so be it!! No biggy for me....I move onto the next find. But I certainly do not blame someone for what I CHOZE TO READ!!!!! Let me say why I took the time to post this.......... I have had 3 people in the last week ( friends on here) say to me they are ready to EXIT the site due to the overwhelming obvious NEGATIVE slant that many and most posts are turing into. The 3 have not left so far. Yeah sooo many start off very exciting and positive.....and then along comes a "disturber" who knows why??? but they come along and have to DUMP NEG into a perfectly good POSITIVE thread!!! Well as for me I REFUSE to participate....they aint gonna "shake my tree" I CHOOSE to remain optimisitc no matter what. Is it always easy to???? NO it is not.....but I do not give up one bit. Lets all do the same and see what can happen :) :) Whhhhoooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!
Lightweight babyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Very well said that man.

I'm looking forward to a brighter future and look forward to seeing the positivity increase on this and other similar forums.

cellardoor
11th February 2012, 18:13
Just got this update via email ... thought I'd share ...

~~~~~~~~

THIS WEEK:
Kerry on KHEN.org Radio
To LISTEN to the archived show on Khen.org CLICK HERE ( http://www.givemesometruth.info/cassidyharris212.mp3 ) - Feb 7th Kerry was interviewed by
Guest Host Mike Harris and Mel Hallett of Truth Oracle Radio
***
Two More Upcoming Livestream Roundtables and Interviews:
1. INTERVIEW WITH JOHN KETTLER : regarding his book "UFOs, Antigravity, Vimanas & Mystics", current events and his blog; contacts on and off-world...
- Monday, February 13 at 7pm PST
2. INTERSTELLAR FLUFFY CLOUD - 3rd Livestream event to come next week sometime on the Interstellar Fluffy Cloud... with Chad Adams, Susan Rennison
MORE DETAILS TO COME .... TBA

~~~~~~~~

viking

~~~~~~~~


Have you found any references to any banker actually missing or otherwise gone?
UT

No but looking into it...

viking

there's been a few arrests in News corp and the UK government today Viking. I think your on the right track.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~

Eight people held over payments inquiry
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16996275

Five Sun employees are among eight people arrested over alleged corrupt payments to police and public servants.

A Surrey Police officer, a member of the armed forces and a Ministry of Defence employee were also arrested.

The BBC understands picture editor John Edwards, chief reporter John Kay, chief foreign correspondent Nick Parker, reporter John Sturgis and associate editor Geoff Webster were arrested.

The arrests are part of the Operation Elveden probe into payments to police.

But the latest arrests mark a widening out of the operation to include the investigation of evidence in relation to suspected corruption involving public officials who are not police officers.

BBC News correspondent Joe Lynam said Sun employees he had spoken to were concerned there was something of a "witch-hunt".

News Corporation confirmed five employees of the Sun were arrested.

Five men aged between 45 and 68 were arrested in London, Kent and Essex on suspicion of corruption, aiding and abetting misconduct in a public office, and conspiracy in relation to both offences.

A 39-year-old serving Surrey Police officer, a 39-year-old Ministry of Defence employee and a 36-year-old member of the armed forces were also arrested at their homes on suspicion of corruption, misconduct in a public office and conspiracy in relation to both.


The Sun picture editor John Edwards is understood to be among those arrested
Those arrested are being questioned at police stations in London, Kent, Essex and Wiltshire, police said.

The homes of those arrested were being searched and officers were also carrying out searches at the offices of News International in Wapping, east London.

News Corp said its Management and Standards Committee (MSC) had provided information to the Elveden inquiry which led to the arrests.

The company said in a statement: "News Corporation remains committed to ensuring that unacceptable news-gathering practices by individuals in the past will not be repeated and last summer authorised the MSC to co-operate with the relevant authorities.

"The MSC will continue to ensure that all appropriate steps are taken to protect legitimate journalistic privilege and sources, private or personal information and legal privilege.

"News Corporation maintains its total support to the ongoing work of the MSC and is committed to making certain that legitimate journalism is vigorously pursued in both the public interest and in full compliance with the law."

'Robust' response
A Ministry of Defence spokeswoman said: "We do not comment on ongoing investigations."

A Surrey Police spokesman said on learning about the involvement of one of its officers it had immediately referred the matter to the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC).

Assistant Chief Constable Jerry Kirkby said: "The force takes matters of this nature extremely seriously and we will not hesitate to respond robustly to allegations where there is evidence to support them."

Continue reading the main story
Operation Elveden

Running alongside Metropolitan Police's phone-hacking investigation, Operation Weeting
Elveden launched after police were handed documents suggesting News International journalists had made illegal payments to officers
Documents were handed over by News International on 20 June 2010
Investigation is being supervised by the Independent Police Complaints Commission
Deborah Glass, IPCC deputy chairman, said: "Today's arrests are further evidence of the strenuous efforts being undertaken to identify police officers who may have taken corrupt payments."

The Surrey Police officer arrest is not connected to the Milly Dowler investigation.

Last week the Independent Police Complaints Commission cleared another Surrey police officer of leaking information to the press about the Dowler investigation.

News Corporation is the parent company of News International which owns The Sun and The Times.

Last month, four former and current Sun journalists and a police officer were arrested as part of the inquiry and released on bail.

Operation Elveden is being overseen by the IPCC, running alongside the Metropolitan Police's Operation Weeting inquiry into phone hacking at the now-closed News of the World.

More than 20 arrests have so far been made as part of Operation Elveden

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Operation Elveden
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Elveden
According to the Metropolitan Police website, Operation Elveden is an investigation into allegations of inappropriate payments to police.[3] It is being supervised by the Independent Police Complaints Commission.[4]
The investigation is led by Deputy Assistant Commissioner Sue Akers of the Metropolitan Police Service,[2] who is also leading Operation Weeting and Operation Tuleta. The service's Directorate of Professional Standards is also involved in the investigation.[2] The Elveden suspects are given numbers to identify them.[2]
On 6 February 2012, DAC Akers appeared at the Leveson inquiry and said that there are 40 police officers and staff working on Operation Elveden, but that it would be increased to 61 officers as a result of the investigation into The Sun.[5]
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By their light shall they be known

Namaste

Lifebringer
11th February 2012, 18:18
I agreee. They must go before the people's laws and justice and accountability must occur, for the people to have trust in any justice on this planet. Ahhh.. the good ole Hague that worked days.
WE unforturnately have to have faith and I know you all don't want to hear that, but seriously, like chess, this game for souls in the ascension, is serious. We like they cannot interfere in anyone's choices accept by law. It is our duty to see the big picture, the whole country, before imposing any law on all the people. The ideological few, cannot be the thought of the many which happen to be ONE for peace and good on the planet.

I believe this because of closure on those harmed, helps them heal inside and not carry around fear from those who harmed them. They must know that they are gone. All victims and their families, must know.

cellardoor
11th February 2012, 18:21
suspected corruption involving public officials who are not police officers.

I think this is our lead

Stay tuned.........................

kreagle
11th February 2012, 19:37
The gist behind this message is: trust the ETs/EDs - they have things well in hand. They will deliver us from our corrupt elite! But at what price? How much is sovereignty worth? We need to clean our own mess. Get these ET/EDs out of here! We will deal with them on the level of equals when we are sufficiently ready. Contact with them is ridden with deception, subterfuge, manipulation. It's like thanking the CIA for deposing your country's elite... what on earth are you welcoming in as you do that? People love nothing more than a saviour, whether it's Angelic or in ET/ED form. If you want to be saved, you will be saved, but you will pay with your children's freedom in this world.

I totally agree with you S-L. I really don't get people who are constantly looking up to someone else to save their mess that they created in the first place, and especially when these entities they are befriending are ET's. How can anyone trust an ET to take care of our mess when you cannot even trust the humans. ET's are creative marketers of their lies, and they sure will be the last ones on this planet that I will put my trust into. It is time for them to leave our home; they cannot play nice then we will have to make them pack up their mess and will send them off to the abyss like Gagarin was sent off into space. We, humans, can take care of ourselves just fine.

Guys, you are hitting on the real truth on what's going on, as I've indicated by highlighting some of your quotes. I've always been convinced that these "entities" are not ET's,..... could be classified as ED's, but more precisely as "fallen angels" or demonic in nature. Hence this is why we see so much deception, manipulation, subterfuge, when dealing with them which certainly leaves us no other option but to not trust them. They show all the hallmark traits of being nothing more than "deceiving demons", which, of course, is what demons do best,.....decieve!

cellardoor
11th February 2012, 20:58
Four Priests Charged In Vatican Banking Scandal
By Rob Wile

Originally posted February 9, 2012

http://www.businessinsider.com

http://www.businessinsider.com/vatican-banking-scandal-money-2012-2

Italian investigators have charged four priests with laundering money out of the Vatican’s official bank, the Institute for the Works of Religion, the National Catholic Reporter’s John L. Allen Jr. writes.

The Italian daily l’Unita was the first to report that the priests were being investigated for laundering hundreds of thousands of dollars.

It’s the latest in a series of investigations into Vatican finances dating back to 2010. In December of that year, Pope Benedict XVI decreed an updated anti-money laundering law for Vatican finances.

Late last month, an Italian TV program published letters written by the Vatican’s ambassador to the U.S. that charged the Holy See’s financial planners with cronyism and corruption.

In the letters, published by the popular Italian news magazine program “The Untouchables,” Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò said that his appointment to the U.S. was motivated by a desire to get him out of Rome because he was causing headaches, according to Les Echoes’ Guillaume Delacroix.

Viganò worried that his removal would cause disillusion among those hoping to clean up “corruption and dishonesty” in the city-state, including rigged contract bids and mismanaged investments, Allen reports.

The Vatican has denied the charges.

etm567
12th February 2012, 03:00
Why would ETs come here and help us get rid of the "bad guys"? Why presume they are doing it for our benefit, if it's even true these things are happening (has anyone offered any evidence as yet?) Can you entertain the possibility that perhaps they are here for their own self-interest, not ours? Why not? Self-interest would be different for different ETs, depending on many things, such as their orientation (STS or STO), or their interests in the future of this planet or of the people on it. It would not surprise me a bit if there were quite a few ETs that would like to help us on our way.

It could also be argued that if we get to grow up and be responsible, free, self-ruling grown-ups who won't destroy their home planet and take war with nuclear weapons into space, that that would most certainly serve their self interests.

Come on, your argument is so narrow! Can't you do better? Certainly there must be some reason for ALL extraterrestrial beings to be cannibals (either flesh-eating or soul-eating, you pick) who cannot wait to sink their teeth into us as they plunder and rape the planet (as if we haven't already had enough of that!).

I like my vision better. And it strikes me as more realistic, somehow. I must know different people than you do, to have such a different notion of what "beings" in general must be like.

On edit: Namaste,

ETM

etm567
12th February 2012, 03:05
Common sense has left the building. :noidea:



Well, gee, common sense is just so -- common. I don't miss it, myself.

Namaste,

ETM

etm567
12th February 2012, 03:13
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Have you found any references to any banker actually missing or otherwise gone?
UT


No but looking into it...

viking

Well, make sure you do viking.

Because at this point I consider your thread here to be little more than a distraction and complete waste of time.



Gee, is someone holding a gun to your head? Have you lost control of your digits? You can't decide what thread to spend your precious time reading?

If you don't like it, why not go someplace else? Not that you're not welcome, but your comment is kind of -- actually, it's kind of threatening, in an odd way. I don't know what threat you mean, but "Make sure you do, Viking"? Or what? What if he doesn't? Does that mean he has perchance displeased YOU? does that have some great significance? Do you have some remarkable power over those who disagree with you?

I find this all quite astonishing. No wonder our planet is in so much trouble.

Namaste,

ETM

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Hi Viking?????? You darn well KEEP on KEEPIN ON posting as you are!! I have a brain and am well able to decide what I will "buy into" and what my intuition ( common sense) tells me not to buy into.I

Well, I say welcome to you! We could use to see a little bit more of you around here! Keep on keeping on....

Namaste,

ETM

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The gist behind this message is: trust the ETs/EDs - they have things well in hand. They will deliver us from our corrupt elite! But at what price? How much is sovereignty worth? We need to clean our own mess. Get these ET/EDs out of here! We will deal with them on the level of equals when we are sufficiently ready. Contact with them is ridden with deception, subterfuge, manipulation. It's like thanking the CIA for deposing your country's elite... what on earth are you welcoming in as you do that? People love nothing more than a saviour, whether it's Angelic or in ET/ED form. If you want to be saved, you will be saved, but you will pay with your children's freedom in this world.

I totally agree with you S-L. I really don't get people who are constantly looking up to someone else to save their mess that they created in the first place, and especially when these entities they are befriending are ET's. How can anyone trust an ET to take care of our mess when you cannot even trust the humans. ET's are creative marketers of their lies, and they sure will be the last ones on this planet that I will put my trust into. It is time for them to leave our home; they cannot play nice then we will have to make them pack up their mess and will send them off to the abyss like Gagarin was sent off into space. We, humans, can take care of ourselves just fine.

Well done guys, At last someone with a solution, Go for it. Clean up our planet. Here you go.

13619

After you clean out the Cabal, Cilka you clean the skys and the seas, S-L you clean the land and fresh water, when you are done you can start on the Uranium buried deep in the earth. And there are helpers at hand. You are our savours. Thank you so much. :thumb:

13617 13618

Why can't I thank you more than once? What a brilliant post! THank you, and ...

NAMASTE

ETM

D-Day
12th February 2012, 03:59
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Have you found any references to any banker actually missing or otherwise gone?
UT


No but looking into it...

viking

Well, make sure you do viking.

Because at this point I consider your thread here to be little more than a distraction and complete waste of time.



Gee, is someone holding a gun to your head? Have you lost control of your digits? You can't decide what thread to spend your precious time reading?

If you don't like it, why not go someplace else? Not that you're not welcome, but your comment is kind of -- actually, it's kind of threatening, in an odd way. I don't know what threat you mean, but "Make sure you do, Viking"? Or what? What if he doesn't? Does that mean he has perchance displeased YOU? does that have some great significance? Do you have some remarkable power over those who disagree with you?

I find this all quite astonishing. No wonder our planet is in so much trouble.

Namaste,

ETM[COLOR="red"]

Given that I have about as much respect/appreciation for your opinion as I do for my next-door neighbour's cat's opinion, I think it's safe to say that I couldn't care less what you think about me or my posts etm.

I've read plenty of your posts/comments since you joined this forum though, and to be quite honest I haven't come across a single one yet that I would consider to be of any real/significant value.

Thanks for taking the time to quote and reply to me though.

Anyways I'm outta this thread for now, but please feel free to notify me when this latest disinformation thread has been proven as such....

Paul
12th February 2012, 04:26
Anyways I'm outta this thread for now,
Good idea ... :).

Quantum Logic
12th February 2012, 05:43
Anyways I'm outta this thread for now,
Good idea ... :).

You are an admin here, and yet someone who uses OBJECTIVE thought leaves a thread- and you say "Good idea"?

Perhaps I was incorrect of my assessment of the caliber of staff and community here that others told me was second to none, as that kind of remark I expected from other forums- NOT this one.

Disappointing, to say the least. I have been watching what is happening here and across the web- it's happening everywhere. Fear is consuming objective thought, and too many want someone or something else to save them, because they do not even want to try to do it themselves out of fear of retribution or retaliation. We have the power within ourselves to end this- but, as everything else, it is a choice.

QL

Paul
12th February 2012, 07:33
Anyways I'm outta this thread for now,
Good idea ... :).

You are an admin here, and yet someone who uses OBJECTIVE thought leaves a thread- and you say "Good idea"?

There may well have been some sound objective thought posted earlier ... but it seems to me that the posts (by more than one member) just before my reply were mostly casting subjective dispersions on each other.

Just because someone gets their analysis right, in your view, doesn't exonerate them from being asked to respect fellow forum members.

I don't know who started it above ... and I'd rather not have to go back and render a judgment on that question.

Whiskey_Mystic
12th February 2012, 07:56
Cows are entitled to opinions and feelings, too. Even if they are afflicted with... wait for it... ModCow disease! :bounce:

Pete
12th February 2012, 08:23
surely the best way to handle this soup of opinion is to merely surf it, get a feel for the changes in current and flavour without investing oneself to every minutiae, Just to observe and be self aware in what are undoubtedly interesting times. Please avoid being judgemental of others opinions and beliefs, they are all correct, just observe and let this tsunami of of disclosure simply run through your consciousness.

mountain_jim
12th February 2012, 13:53
I agree with Paul that lines of decorum were crossed here.

As an example of how to respond to what resonates as questionable info (at best) - I came into this thread, took the trouble to research John Kettler's claims about from where and how this info comes to him, shared that research here, highlighted the obvious ego he displays (usually a big RED FLAG), questioned whether his 'channel' might possibly be corrupted with links to discussions of synthetic telepathy, questioned whether his motives re selling his research online might be a reason for making this stuff up, etc.

For none of that did I need to insult or demean anyone here who might resonate with this source - but I did provide additional information to help them consider possible alternative explanations for Kettler's claims and information.

And I await, with a reasonably open mind, for any real evidence to back up any thing Kettler has said......

Still waiting, as what low-level arrests have been announced so far appear to me to be nothing near his claims of what has happened to The International Banksters, and in fact happen all the time (at the levels currently in the news.)

NeverMind
12th February 2012, 13:55
Still waiting, as what low-level arrests have been announced so far appear to me to be nothing near his claims of what has happened to The International Banksters, and in fact happen all the time (at the levels currently in the news.)

Nor are they called "the Warburgs", for that matter.

Camilo
12th February 2012, 15:28
One would think that memebers of this forum wouldn't be so naive as to believe, expect or want that anyone from outside this planet (ETs/EDs or whatever you want to call them) come and take care of busines. Nobody but US should be taking care of fixing the mess the planet is in. We are the rightful inhabitants of the planet and its stewards.

gripreaper
12th February 2012, 18:42
I´ll believe it when I see evidence that any bankster really left the planet. :)

Of course, they could also say that they left clones in their places, so their absence wouldn´t be noticed... ;)

Cheers, Raf.

That's it. Doppelgangers have replaced many of the originals and we are now infiltrated with many AI Mancurian's directing the thoughts of humanity, while a concerted effort continues to eliminate the indigenous population of earth and replace it with an engineered hybrid species of drones. Some estimates conclude that over 50% of the originals have been replaced and these doppelgangers are running everything!

Better be suspicious of everyone, right? See where these rabbit holes can go when some of this thinking is perpetuated?

viking
12th February 2012, 18:50
Nobody but US should be taking care of fixing the mess the planet is in. We are the rightful inhabitants of the planet and its stewards.

So far we are doing a pretty crappy job...don't you think?

viking

cellardoor
12th February 2012, 19:33
Nobody but US should be taking care of fixing the mess the planet is in. We are the rightful inhabitants of the planet and its stewards.

So far we are doing a pretty crappy job...don't you think?

viking


Indeed, have we ever done a good job?

viking
12th February 2012, 20:49
Nobody but US should be taking care of fixing the mess the planet is in. We are the rightful inhabitants of the planet and its stewards.

So far we are doing a pretty crappy job...don't you think?

viking

Indeed, have we ever done a good job?

I was just reading an article and came across this ... couldn't of put it better myself ...

"Man has literally become a vampire upon our Mother Earth and is slowly killing her, which, if not reversed soon, will result in mankind's own demise. At some point Mother Earth will simply shake, rattle and roll the blood-sucking parasites off of her in order to survive. It is the Global Elite and the Big Oil Corporations who are causing this problem by not only mining her into illness, fever, and near-death, but also by keeping mankind hostage by withholding all free-energy and alternative-energy inventions and discoveries. This is a great crime against Mother Earth, Mankind and God! And they will most certainly answer to God for these crimes."

Soon it will be our turn to be the 'stewards' of this Planet ... then we can start getting on with it.

viking

cellardoor
12th February 2012, 20:53
Nobody but US should be taking care of fixing the mess the planet is in. We are the rightful inhabitants of the planet and its stewards.

So far we are doing a pretty crappy job...don't you think?

viking

Indeed, have we ever done a good job?

I was just reading an article and came across this ... couldn't of put it better myself ...

"Man has literally become a vampire upon our Mother Earth and is slowly killing her, which, if not reversed soon, will result in mankind's own demise. At some point Mother Earth will simply shake, rattle and roll the blood-sucking parasites off of her in order to survive. It is the Global Elite and the Big Oil Corporations who are causing this problem by not only mining her into illness, fever, and near-death, but also by keeping mankind hostage by withholding all free-energy and alternative-energy inventions and discoveries. This is a great crime against Mother Earth, Mankind and God! And they will most certainly answer to God for these crimes."

Soon it will be our turn to be the 'stewards' of this Planet ... then we can start getting on with it.

viking

So what do you think of the arrests that have been in the news Viking? To try and steer this thread back from it's long journey:)

etm567
12th February 2012, 21:04
Anyways I'm outta this thread for now,
Good idea ... :).

You are an admin here, and yet someone who uses OBJECTIVE thought leaves a thread- and you say "Good idea"?

There may well have been some sound objective thought posted earlier ... but it seems to me that the posts (by more than one member) just before my reply were mostly casting subjective dispersions on each other.

Just because someone gets their analysis right, in your view, doesn't exonerate them from being asked to respect fellow forum members.

I don't know who started it above ... and I'd rather not have to go back and render a judgment on that question.

I'll send it to you.

Last night, my mouse died and I was having trouble posting, so I gave up. But I will send it to you.

viking
12th February 2012, 21:09
Nobody but US should be taking care of fixing the mess the planet is in. We are the rightful inhabitants of the planet and its stewards.

So far we are doing a pretty crappy job...don't you think?

viking

Indeed, have we ever done a good job?

I was just reading an article and came across this ... couldn't of put it better myself ...

"Man has literally become a vampire upon our Mother Earth and is slowly killing her, which, if not reversed soon, will result in mankind's own demise. At some point Mother Earth will simply shake, rattle and roll the blood-sucking parasites off of her in order to survive. It is the Global Elite and the Big Oil Corporations who are causing this problem by not only mining her into illness, fever, and near-death, but also by keeping mankind hostage by withholding all free-energy and alternative-energy inventions and discoveries. This is a great crime against Mother Earth, Mankind and God! And they will most certainly answer to God for these crimes."

Soon it will be our turn to be the 'stewards' of this Planet ... then we can start getting on with it.

viking

So what do you think of the arrests that have been in the news Viking? To try and steer this thread back from it's long journey:)

Yes you have put up some excellent information here on this thread...it all seems to be kicking off ... I am looking forward to watching Kerry's interview...should be an eye opener ...

Anyway getting back to the arrests...I was busy doing some reaearch the other day in the other arena, so to speak...and there in front of my eyes the story you posted was on mainstream Sky News ...ha ha ... and there's me looking within the depths of the internet ...had a good chuckle !! Great work Cella ... more to come... lets hope more to follow on mainstream.

viking

cellardoor
12th February 2012, 21:13
Get a load of this!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17003230

Bankers, including four from the Royal Bank of Scotland, have been arrested in a tax fraud investigation.

The arrests included four current employees and one former employee from the Edinburgh-based bank as well as people from two other banks.

HM Revenue and Customs said the arrests concerned the financial affairs of the individuals, and were not related to their work for the bank.

They were arrested on Wednesday at their homes.

The arrests are the result of a three-year investigation by HMRC into people suspected of evading tax by using a film finance loophole.

An HMRC spokeswoman said: "As a result of an ongoing HMRC investigation into tax-related criminal offences, HMRC has arrested a number of people, some of whom work for UK banks.

"This investigation relates to the actions of the people arrested in relation to their own financial affairs, and is not connected to the business activities of the banks."

viking
12th February 2012, 21:22
Get a load of this!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17003230

Bankers, including four from the Royal Bank of Scotland, have been arrested in a tax fraud investigation.

The arrests included four current employees and one former employee from the Edinburgh-based bank as well as people from two other banks.

HM Revenue and Customs said the arrests concerned the financial affairs of the individuals, and were not related to their work for the bank.

They were arrested on Wednesday at their homes.

The arrests are the result of a three-year investigation by HMRC into people suspected of evading tax by using a film finance loophole.

An HMRC spokeswoman said: "As a result of an ongoing HMRC investigation into tax-related criminal offences, HMRC has arrested a number of people, some of whom work for UK banks.

"This investigation relates to the actions of the people arrested in relation to their own financial affairs, and is not connected to the business activities of the banks."

Priceless... thats the one ...

Thanks Cella ...

viking

cloud9
12th February 2012, 22:25
International Banksters Flee Planet–With Just The Clothes On Their Backs

The International Banksters (colloquialism for “bank gangsters”) have suddenly collapsed and have, per the ETs/EDs (extraterrestrials/extradimensionals), now left the planet, most last night, for an uncertain future. Their final disposition is unknown, but the international banksters, once self-styled lords of the Earth and owners of nearly everything and everyone, would be well advised to enter the (Galactic) Universities of Evolution, as did the first to flee, the Warburgs. This branch of the international banksters, among the owners of the private bank called the Federal Reserve System, read the “handwriting on the wall,” decided the game was up and that survival was now the new objective, survival even if it meant penury. The entry fee was high, but appropriate, coming off the planet essentially naked and devoid of assets, precisely the condition the international banksters have left us in. The rule is simple: “Evolve or die!” Even psychopaths and sociopaths should be able to understand that.
International Banksters–ETs/EDs To Intervene During Ticklish Transition to A New System

The ETs/EDs have been quietly working behind the scenes to keep the entire global economy from collapsing, but the sudden, wholly unexpected abdication of the international banksters has changed the whole situation. Financial experts from the Universities of Evolution are being brought in to sort through an epochal mess created by the international banksters, and that is precisely the right word to describe the howling, tangled, interrelated, booby trapped chaos the international banksters have left behind.

The international banksters wanted a financial collapse, but not too fast or uncontrolled. They wanted draconian social control, but had to do it by increments. They wanted conventional war, nuclear war and engineered disease and “natural disasters” to “thin the herd” and make the population more tractable. The international banksters did this so effectively only 86% of us have to die, provided no replacements are born over their “magic” NWO (New World Order) billion people. The international banksters created a situation where we are enslaved by energy, when it’s there in abundance (and ruthlessly suppressed), enslaved by money, which they control the supply of, enslaved by work, so we won’t have time to think and realize who we really are.

Thanks to the international banksters, our middle class is destroyed (core industries and jobs deliberately moved overseas), our children dazzlingly ignorant, our soils depleted, our food lacking nutrition, yet the international banksters want to ban vitamins and food supplements, meanwhile contaminating our organic food with chemtrails and genetically modified organisms. The international banksters funded terror, narcotrafficking, gunrunning, human slavery and worse, all for ever fatter profits. And when something went wrong, the international banksters, having gang raped us and the planet, not to mention cutting out most of her lungs (forests), had the hubris to have their victims bail them out, then partied on. No more! No more will the international bankster thugs and assassins intimidate and murder the good people who stand up to them. No more will the money of the international banksters buy them legal immunity or a tame, gutless mass media they own. Owned.
International Bankster Juggernaut Must Be Stopped–While We Still Have A Planet!

In order to achieve their horrific NWO, the international banksters have had multiple plans running for centuries, with backups to the backups. The resultant momentum is huge, as seen in yet another headlong rush for war against Syria and Iran, in the slew of international bankster ordered terrible laws coming from Congress which gut the Constitution like a fish, in a generally hostile to us court system beholden to the money power, in a President whose very survival hinges on pleasing the international banksters. We’re to have new biometric ID next year in the States, for driver’s licenses and passports alike, and the rush is on in India to biometrically ID the entire 1.8 billion there. Then there’s a deadly array of super diseases, hidden missiles and static nuclear devices, rigged reactors, weapons for waging war with earthquakes and eruptions, well-funded ideologue crackpots, engineered terrorism, exported torture and torture techniques, and a seething pot of plots, schemes, “justifications,” planned assassinations, destabilizations, new drugs and new attacks on what’s left of our social structure–all intended to create chaos and ring in the NWO so beloved by the international banksters. These and more will have to be stopped and dealt with–quickly.

We may be at war by Monday, you see, for that’s when sealed orders will be opened by the skipper of every U.S. ship in the Persian Gulf. That’s a staggering three carrier battle groups, with one more en route, some partially consisting of French and British escorts. The same ultra reliable sources who provided the dread Monday news also indicated Israel already has overflight permission for Saudi Arabia and Iraq. Somehow these avalanches of disaster, created and nurtured by the international banksters, must be stopped. The would-be combatants must be separated, the issues sorted out, and responsible leaders found to replace the current crop of homicidal maniacs in a bunch of countries. The ETs/EDs are arriving in force and have already repeatedly intervened, not just stopping wars the international banksters wanted, but cleaning up radiation from engineered reactor failures and “natural disasters,” saving millions from horrible deaths.

http://johnkettler.com/international-banksters-capitulate-etseds-confirm/comment-page-3/#comment-721

~~~~~~~~

viking

I dunno..... I saw a George Soros today on CNN....

aranuk
12th February 2012, 23:02
Anyways I'm outta this thread for now,
Good idea ... :).

You are an admin here, and yet someone who uses OBJECTIVE thought leaves a thread- and you say "Good idea"?

Perhaps I was incorrect of my assessment of the caliber of staff and community here that others told me was second to none, as that kind of remark I expected from other forums- NOT this one.

Disappointing, to say the least. I have been watching what is happening here and across the web- it's happening everywhere. Fear is consuming objective thought, and too many want someone or something else to save them, because they do not even want to try to do it themselves out of fear of retribution or retaliation. We have the power within ourselves to end this- but, as everything else, it is a choice.

QL
So tell us all what you are doing. What you're going to do. What help can we do to help us through this transmission?

Stan

aranuk
12th February 2012, 23:33
Get a load of this!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17003230

Bankers, including four from the Royal Bank of Scotland, have been arrested in a tax fraud investigation.

The arrests included four current employees and one former employee from the Edinburgh-based bank as well as people from two other banks.

HM Revenue and Customs said the arrests concerned the financial affairs of the individuals, and were not related to their work for the bank.

They were arrested on Wednesday at their homes.

The arrests are the result of a three-year investigation by HMRC into people suspected of evading tax by using a film finance loophole.

An HMRC spokeswoman said: "As a result of an ongoing HMRC investigation into tax-related criminal offences, HMRC has arrested a number of people, some of whom work for UK banks.

"This investigation relates to the actions of the people arrested in relation to their own financial affairs, and is not connected to the business activities of the banks."

At last Edinburghh my home town in the news again. Alas, not a good bit of news for Edinburgh apart from the obvious arrests of criminal banksters. In case anyone thinks that Edinburgh away up far north in Britain has never been influential in the world, they are wrong. Edinburgh has been the centre for banking in the world for hundreds of years. In fact St Andrew Square was for many years the richest square in the world of finance. Unfortunately most of the people here did not get a fair share of the wealth. Nothing like it.

Stan

aranuk
13th February 2012, 00:01
Considering that the human population has been brainwashed for thousands of years due to Religious indoctrination and in modern times religious indoctrination PLUS media brainwashing, it obviously means that democracy is the preferred political system of government by the elite. In a nutshell, we are ****ed. Most people in western society are brainwashed and those who live in the so called 3rd world are still brainwashed by their religions. The powers that be (I honestly wish I could say were) have the power in their hands. When a minority of two million people demonstrated in London against going to war in Iraq before Tony Bliar did, he ignored it completely, why? He COULD. He didn't give a **** for the views of the demonstartors or for the lives of soldiers or the innocent people of Iraq. This is what we are all up against. This is the reality of the world today.

The other thing is that the ET's have been here for thousands of years interfering with our DNA and stuff and we have to now get 51% of us to ask for their help. WHY? Are they playing the democracy swizzle? If they are then I don't trust them. They obviously are not from any higher planes of existence are they? They must be up to no good. On the other hand if they are waiting for a good show of hands from the good people how many do they need? They should know with their higher intelligence and mind technology they possess that the majority of the people are brainwashed and do NOT have a say in this important matter. They should ask Avalon members I say and don't consult any others. They are our ONLY friggin hope as I see it.

Stan

skamandar
13th February 2012, 00:13
Why would ETs come here and help us get rid of the "bad guys"? Why presume they are doing it for our benefit, if it's even true these things are happening (has anyone offered any evidence as yet?) Can you entertain the possibility that perhaps they are here for their own self-interest, not ours?

The same reason I helped a puppy being chased by some stupid children, throwing stones at it - because I could. I didn't have any self interest in doing it. I didn't get any money out of it and I didn't become famous.
Why you will even think that anything anybody could do is out of SELF INTREST?

Well... if the fear changing to love in the puppies eyes when I hugged it made me happy - than OK - I DID IT BECAUSE I WAS INTERESTED IN FEELING HAPPY FROM WHAT I'VE DONE.

You somehow tend to forget that animals, humans (and I hope ET's) can do selfless miracles out of LOVE.

jcocks
13th February 2012, 01:47
Many times I sit in my house and wonder how to fix the problems in my relationships and the problems which exist with my house. I just can't come up with any solutions.
Every now and again, I take a trip out to another city to take a breather, and the answers to my problems become clear. Also, my friends often come up with solutions I never thought of. SOmetimes it's good to get an opinion of somebody OUTSIDE that has no emotional involvment.

Also, how in the f'ing hell are we supposed to even know of sure what problems we face on Earth when we are lied to left right and centre... How do we even know that the problems we are told exist actually exist, or that they aren't covering up other, more important problems.... How can we really fix our problems, how can we even hope to, when we're so controlled??

That's the question I ask. So I think we do need some outside *HELP* or at least a 3rd opinion... But in no way am I saying they need to fix it for us...it needs to be a joint operation...

But then, as many have also said, who do we trust "out there"?

TelosianEmbrace
13th February 2012, 07:52
Many times I sit in my house and wonder how to fix the problems in my relationships and the problems which exist with my house. I just can't come up with any solutions.
Every now and again, I take a trip out to another city to take a breather, and the answers to my problems become clear. Also, my friends often come up with solutions I never thought of. SOmetimes it's good to get an opinion of somebody OUTSIDE that has no emotional involvment.

Also, how in the f'ing hell are we supposed to even know of sure what problems we face on Earth when we are lied to left right and centre... How do we even know that the problems we are told exist actually exist, or that they aren't covering up other, more important problems.... How can we really fix our problems, how can we even hope to, when we're so controlled??

That's the question I ask. So I think we do need some outside *HELP* or at least a 3rd opinion... But in no way am I saying they need to fix it for us...it needs to be a joint operation...

But then, as many have also said, who do we trust "out there"?

I guess... we trust everyone, everywhere. In my life I have gone into relationships/workplaces/homes with an openness and a trust. In time, that trust is either returned/validated or thrust back into my face, denied and derided. I have cried many tears. Yet I would have had it no other way, for in those few relationships where my love/trust was returned, it gave me the courage to face all the darkness and doubt. What other option is there? Discernment is my sword and vulnerability is my shield.

Explodey
13th February 2012, 08:06
Many times I sit in my house and wonder how to fix the problems in my relationships and the problems which exist with my house. I just can't come up with any solutions.
Every now and again, I take a trip out to another city to take a breather, and the answers to my problems become clear. Also, my friends often come up with solutions I never thought of. SOmetimes it's good to get an opinion of somebody OUTSIDE that has no emotional involvment.

Also, how in the f'ing hell are we supposed to even know of sure what problems we face on Earth when we are lied to left right and centre... How do we even know that the problems we are told exist actually exist, or that they aren't covering up other, more important problems.... How can we really fix our problems, how can we even hope to, when we're so controlled??

That's the question I ask. So I think we do need some outside *HELP* or at least a 3rd opinion... But in no way am I saying they need to fix it for us...it needs to be a joint operation...

But then, as many have also said, who do we trust "out there"?

Re: Re: International Banksters Flee Planet–With Just The Clothes On Their Backs - stop - change Banksters - replace with BANKTARDS - stop
Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia - 2+2=5 - stop

Craig
13th February 2012, 22:49
I have become quite despondant over everything lately, looking at the world and failing to see the natural beauty and the day to day kindness employed by normal people, all i read is doom here, gloom there, end of the world coming, ww3 underway, the impotence at being able to do anything was indeed crippling, still is. I don't like the ride anymore, I am angry at my upper self for agreeing to come here now, this is a flawed experiment. I want off. I have been reading about NDE's lately and when on the other side where love is dripping off the walls and forgiveness is everywhere like breaking wind in an elevator. Apparenlty the ills of this world fall into insignificance over there, but we are not over there now, we are here experiencing it first hand. I don't feel like I am growing as a result of this 3d experience, if anything I feel like I am going backwards. So who do I trust? no one, I read and absorb then forget and as for inner voice? It departed a few years ago.

I have given up on rescue, we are in the deep end and we through inactivity and lethargy put ourselves here, all I do now is try and perform one act of kindness to a stranger every day no matter how small. When I see my life in review I would like to come out on the +ive side, that way I may be in a position where I can ask some questions about what the hell is this place for?

It is Valentines Day now is Australia which means that for 24 hours people pretend to tolerate each other before business resumes tomorrow as normal.

Inner peace be with you. And if you can, spare me some?

jcocks
13th February 2012, 23:59
:) I know the feeling all too well. I still have trouble believing so myself, but my gut tells me there are going to be some extremely positive changes coming for us all this year.. Just keep you head up and keep doing what you're doing - you can't go wrong that way...

Joel

Rantaak
14th February 2012, 06:11
Get a load of this!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17003230

Bankers, including four from the Royal Bank of Scotland, have been arrested in a tax fraud investigation.

The arrests included four current employees and one former employee from the Edinburgh-based bank as well as people from two other banks.

HM Revenue and Customs said the arrests concerned the financial affairs of the individuals, and were not related to their work for the bank.

They were arrested on Wednesday at their homes.

The arrests are the result of a three-year investigation by HMRC into people suspected of evading tax by using a film finance loophole.

An HMRC spokeswoman said: "As a result of an ongoing HMRC investigation into tax-related criminal offences, HMRC has arrested a number of people, some of whom work for UK banks.

"This investigation relates to the actions of the people arrested in relation to their own financial affairs, and is not connected to the business activities of the banks."

BBC is like the worst disinfo. Reality is a PsyOp.

:tinfoil3:

Excited to see where this leads...

viking
14th February 2012, 09:44
Get a load of this!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17003230

Bankers, including four from the Royal Bank of Scotland, have been arrested in a tax fraud investigation.

The arrests included four current employees and one former employee from the Edinburgh-based bank as well as people from two other banks.

HM Revenue and Customs said the arrests concerned the financial affairs of the individuals, and were not related to their work for the bank.

They were arrested on Wednesday at their homes.

The arrests are the result of a three-year investigation by HMRC into people suspected of evading tax by using a film finance loophole.

An HMRC spokeswoman said: "As a result of an ongoing HMRC investigation into tax-related criminal offences, HMRC has arrested a number of people, some of whom work for UK banks.

"This investigation relates to the actions of the people arrested in relation to their own financial affairs, and is not connected to the business activities of the banks."

BBC is like the worst disinfo. Reality is a PsyOp.

:tinfoil3:

Excited to see where this leads...

I know where you are coming from Rantak ...but at what point do we say 'ahhh we are finally getting some truth seeping through the mainstream' ...

Sooner or later these 'news agencies' are going to have to come clean...

viking

viking
14th February 2012, 10:37
Update here...

quote from his site ...
As some of you know already, John will be the guest on Kerry Cassidy’s Whistleblower Radio show (at Project Camelot) this coming Thursday, 7 P.M. PST. There will be live chat during the show.

We figured that some of you might be listeners already and/or have questions in mind for John and Kerry. If so, please post a comment below.

After the show, we’ll use this as a place for John to answer further questions and/or clarify what was said on the show.

~~~~~~~~

viking

Rantaak
14th February 2012, 10:46
Get a load of this!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17003230

Bankers, including four from the Royal Bank of Scotland, have been arrested in a tax fraud investigation.

The arrests included four current employees and one former employee from the Edinburgh-based bank as well as people from two other banks.

HM Revenue and Customs said the arrests concerned the financial affairs of the individuals, and were not related to their work for the bank.

They were arrested on Wednesday at their homes.

The arrests are the result of a three-year investigation by HMRC into people suspected of evading tax by using a film finance loophole.

An HMRC spokeswoman said: "As a result of an ongoing HMRC investigation into tax-related criminal offences, HMRC has arrested a number of people, some of whom work for UK banks.

"This investigation relates to the actions of the people arrested in relation to their own financial affairs, and is not connected to the business activities of the banks."

BBC is like the worst disinfo. Reality is a PsyOp.

:tinfoil3:

Excited to see where this leads...

I know where you are coming from Rantak ...but at what point do we say 'ahhh we are finally getting some truth seeping through the mainstream' ...

Sooner or later these 'news agencies' are going to have to come clean...

viking

Heya Viking

No worries, I was just being silly. Keeping up with mainstream publications is obviously one of the most effective ways of seeing where societally accepted consciousness is heading. My sense of humor is very deceptive in the sense that absolutely no one seems to be able to tell when I'm making a joke or being serious, with the exception of my partner and a small handful of close friends who have known me for a while.

This whole deal is pretty congruent with what we've been hearing from David Wilcock. Cool guy in my opinion.

cellardoor
14th February 2012, 14:32
Their web of lies is crumbling before our eyes.

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16169085

Scotland Yard commander Ali Dizaei has been jailed for three years after being found guilty of corruption for the second time.

Southwark Crown Court returned a unanimous guilty verdict for the disgraced police commander, who was originally found guilty in February 2010 for threatening and falsely arresting a man in a row about money.
However, given he has already served 15 months of his original 4-year sentence, Dizaei could walk free in just three months.
Mr Justice Saunders said Dizaei used his position and power to arrest Waad al-Baghdadi because of a private dispute.
He told the policeman: "You are a very senior officer. The breach of trust that the public has placed in you is the more serious because of your senior appointment.
"You have been a role model to many other people as a result of your achievements as a police officer."
His appeal in May last year overturned the earlier verdict, and after being released he spoke of the abuse he had suffered in jail - abuse which meant he had to spend much of his sentence in solitary confinement.
He told a news conference afterwards that he had left prison "with my integrity completely intact".
At the retrial, Dizaei's lawyer presented new evidence relating to his client's immigration status, which came after the police officer's earlier claims at racial discrimination within the police service.

Ali Dizaei (right) after he arrested Waad al Baghdadi (left)

A second guilty verdict has effectively ended his police career, but Dizaei's lawyer said he was "extremely disappointed" at the decision, and will be appealing his conviction.
Gaon Hart, from the Crown Prosecution Service's special crime and counter-terrorism division, said: "Dizaei had no proper reason for making this arrest and there was no real evidence that this young man had committed any crime on that day.
"Dizaei's corruption, which would be deplorable in any police officer, was all the more so given his position as a highly ranked commander," she said.
"The public entrust the police with considerable powers and with that comes considerable responsibility. Dizaei abused that power and ignored that responsibility."
He added: "The public should have confidence that we will prosecute anyone regardless of their position or the difficulties encountered along the way, where there is evidence that they've committed serious offences of corruption."
Iranian-born Dizaei's 26-year police career has not been without controversy, and in 2001 he was investigated for making false expenses claims, using drugs and prostitutes and even spying for Iran, although he was never found guilty.
It was the most expensive inquiry into a single police officer ever made.
The controversial officer also had great success in the force, serving for a short time as a chief superintendent and president of the Metropolitan Black Police Association.
Dizaei will remain a senior police officer until the bureaucratic formal process of throwing him out of the force can be completed.
He will then be sacked for gross misconduct and could face losing all or part of his pension under further measures aimed at punishing corrupt officers

cellardoor
14th February 2012, 16:30
http://projectcamelotportal.com/

TONIGHT'S LIVESTREAM INTERVIEW WITH JOHN KETTLER TO BE RESCHEDULED to THURSDAY
Due to logistical issues with getting the banner ad out in time as well as my webmaster having the flu this event will be rescheduled TO THURSDAY, FEB 16TH at 7pm PST.