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Sidney
16th February 2012, 20:56
http://healthfreedoms.org/2012/02/16/doctors-now-firing-patients-who-reject-vaccination/

nearing
16th February 2012, 21:23
Whatever.

Any doc who pushes any pharmaceutical on a person isn't fit to practice. He needs to go back and understand the term 'do no harm'.

mountain_jim
16th February 2012, 22:08
I don't discuss flouride-pushing with my Dentist because he is brainwashed and might put me on some list - some of these doctors seem to be in their own secret organization. :)

NewFounderHome
16th February 2012, 23:27
There would be a need for a online black list of Doctors of that type!

THIRDEYE
16th February 2012, 23:33
starchild ty for this thread...i think doctors are firing patients id because the are in co hootz with big pharma..if the dr.s qouta for vaccinations are not met the dr. will not get his kickback from big pharma..also i think some of these doctors are working for the powers to be as a way too thin population...just some food for thought...light love and abundance too all....thirdeye.....

WhiteFeather
16th February 2012, 23:45
LMAO,,,I didn't know Dr's could fire their patients. Sounds like a Donald Trump Thing.

http://blog.thehigheredcio.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/youre-fired.jpg?w=199

Sidney
17th February 2012, 00:34
I remember stopping my (eX) dentist just as she was about to shove a tray full of flouride into my daughters mouth, after I had already said that we did NOT want flouride. She and the staff, from then on, looked at my like I was fresh out of the loony bin. needless to say I never went back.

The high school in which my daughter will start attending next year has a "built in" walk in clinic,, right there on campus. SCARY ..... note, we do not live in a large metro area.

Carmody
17th February 2012, 00:51
I don't discuss flouride-pushing with my Dentist because he is brainwashed and might put me on some list - some of these doctors seem to be in their own secret organization. :)

Actually.... they are.

If you look into the origins of the AMA, you find out that it literally IS a designated Thuggery arm of the Medical corporations.

Seriously.

Strat
17th February 2012, 01:24
I have been blessed to have a competent neurologist. She tells me what science suggests, yet she has no hesitation to let me have the final word. My dr before this would give me hell and look at me like I'm an idiot when I speak my mind. I know how to handle those folks though (take my business elsewhere).

Paul
17th February 2012, 01:26
When my sister had some ailments requiring visiting a variety of doctors and specialists in the last few months, it seemed to me that -every- single one, shortly after getting her name and initial complaint, then asked whether she had had various vaccinations. Didn't matter what their specialty - head, foot, liver, lung, psyche or general practicioner.

Sidney
17th February 2012, 01:33
My fear is that they will start injecting students without their parents permission, regardless of the waiver. Sickening society. Literally

Ellisa
17th February 2012, 01:42
In what country do doctors 'sack' their patients, or refuse to treat them when they present with an ailment? Is it legal?

Encouragement to vaccinate is not the same as coercion.

It is the patients' choice to decide which doctor to go to. Find one who is supportive and who allows you to explain your views. Then listen to his/her reasons for encouraging a particular treatment or action. Maybe there will be a useful point in what the doctor is telling you, and maybe you had not known that earlier. Neither you nor the doctor know everything!

Guest
17th February 2012, 01:46
Have a family member the docs have been pushing bone loss calcium loss drugs on -the side effects almost killed them..... only 5% + - roughly of the people in the studies for this type of drug incurred debilitating and life threatening side effects. The doctors do not have to disclose this information to their patients. I researched the drug thoroughly and of course talked with my family members doctors..... the doctors told me they would not give my family member the drug again if they were having those kinds of side effects.....etc. Then the doctors denied everything to my family member and said the drug doesn't have those kinds of side effects and the data doesn't exist.....


Love

Nora

mountain_jim
17th February 2012, 01:58
I don't discuss flouride-pushing with my Dentist because he is brainwashed and might put me on some list - some of these doctors seem to be in their own secret organization. :)

Actually.... they are.

If you look into the origins of the AMA, you find out that it literally IS a designated Thuggery arm of the Medical corporations.

Seriously.

Actually, I did know that. And the CDC in Atlanta is a big player in that as well.

What I was hinting at and intended to flesh out in the post a little more was the way Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson satirized that idea in the Illuminatus Trilogy, where:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Illuminatus!_Trilogy


The evil scheme uncovered late in the tale is an attempt to immanentize the eschaton (a catchphrase coined by Eric Voegelin), a secret scheme of the American Medical Association, an evil rock band, to bring about a mass human sacrifice, the purpose of which is the release of enough "life-energy" to give eternal life to a select group of initiates, including Adolf Hitler. The AMA are four siblings who comprise four of the five mysterious Illuminati Primi. The identity of the fifth remains unknown for much of the trilogy. The first European "Woodstock" festival, held at Ingolstadt, Bavaria, is the chosen location for the sacrifice of the unwary victims, via the reawakening of hibernating Nazi battalions from the bottom of nearby Lake Totenkopf. The plot is foiled when, with the help of a 50-foot-tall incarnation of the goddess Eris, the four members of the AMA are killed: Wilhelm is killed by the monstrous alien being Yog-Sothoth, Wolfgang is shot by John Dillinger, Winifred is drowned by porpoises, and Werner is trapped in a sinking car.



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When my sister had some ailments requiring visiting a variety of doctors and specialists in the last few months, it seemed to me that -every- single one, shortly after getting her name and initial complaint, then asked whether she had had various vaccinations. Didn't matter what their specialty - head, foot, liver, lung, psyche or general practicioner.

My afore-mentioned Dentist asked this as well.

Carmody
17th February 2012, 02:16
Yog-Sothoth,

I was thinking of getting this for the rear of my car.

Yes...I've got a sense of humour.

Might not go over so well with some......

http://www.evolvefish.com/fish/media/E-cthulhunew.gif

Strat
17th February 2012, 02:24
I legitimately laughed out loud Carmody, well done.

DeDukshyn
17th February 2012, 02:25
All Canadians! If this happens to you, talk to a lawyer ASAP. It is illegal in Canada to refuse any service based on denial of vaccinations. Utilize your rights and show them we won't stand for this ****.

Despite the law being on our side it still happens here .. .start suing them!!

Anchor
17th February 2012, 04:00
Let them fire you.

They will soon start to miss those doctor bucks rolling in, if enough people do it.

eileenrose
17th February 2012, 04:57
On a topic related to doctors (didn't know where else to put this and don't feel like it is a thread to itself material), I was looking at the issue of smart meters yesterday and the huge increase in radiation they are causing and then I realized that everyone who owns a smart meter will get brain cancer at some junction (if they don't die due to other health issues caused by said machines), be it 6 months or 10 years (just going off the date they give for living near a cell tower or over using a cell phone....so this timeframe didn't come from me...but from scientists already).,, which means that the doctors will be overloaded and they will want to report the cases (to the CDC....right? ..whoever is in charge of epidemics in the US). So what is to stop them from stopping the maniacs installing these devices and making us keep them?

then it hit me, the new obamacare goes into affect 2014, right about the time everyone gets sick from them. What better way to control the doctors than by telling them what is what or they can get fired (since won't they actually no longer be considered 'on their own' anymore, but will be workers for the feds?).

just a realization is all. This people (TPTB) don't mess around do they.

xbusymom
17th February 2012, 05:20
My fear is that they will start injecting students without their parents permission, regardless of the waiver. Sickening society. Literally

be careful what you wish for:

take a look at this thread - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32205-California-12-year-olds-to-be-vaccinated-with-out-parents-knowing

PixieDust
17th February 2012, 05:37
I'm about to be kicked out of my pediatricians office for refusal of vaccinations.

Last time i took my twins for their two year old check up (7 months ago) my doctor warned me that they were bringing a new doctor into the practice and he was pushing to not treat patients who deny vaccinations. So far Ive had to sign a waiver every single time and say "no vaccines" at least 3 times while im in the office.

Unfortunately where i live not many offices still offer the waiver and make it mandatory to be vaccinated.

If I loose this doctor I'm not sure where I'll go because finding them was hard enough in the first place. Luckily they're old enough now i dont necessarily need a straight up pediatrician and they never get sick (maybe a cold here and there but not this winter) so no reason to drag them there unless i need to!

nearing
17th February 2012, 15:55
PixieDust, I admire your determination to do the right thing for your twins. Have you considered seeing an ND instead?

Maia Gabrial
17th February 2012, 16:06
The high school in which my daughter will start attending next year has a "built in" walk in clinic,, right there on campus. SCARY ..... note, we do not live in a large metro area.

Make sure your daughter understands that she does NOT have to go to that clinic for any MANDATORY crap. That she can refuse anything they try to force on her.

Maia Gabrial
17th February 2012, 16:14
As if this is a BAD thing? He should have been fired first.... However, the only thing this hurts is the doctor's bank account and his kick backs from Big Pharma....
Any doctor who bullies patients deserves to lose their business because, as with all things, they can ONLY suggest or recommend treatments. The final decision will ALWAYS be up to the patient. No IF's, AND's or BUTT's about it.... People need to realize this if they're going to protect their sovereign rights....
Yeah, the medical field is just one more intrusion into our lives....

Sidney
17th February 2012, 16:46
I'm about to be kicked out of my pediatricians office for refusal of vaccinations.

Last time i took my twins for their two year old check up (7 months ago) my doctor warned me that they were bringing a new doctor into the practice and he was pushing to not treat patients who deny vaccinations. So far Ive had to sign a waiver every single time and say "no vaccines" at least 3 times while im in the office.

Unfortunately where i live not many offices still offer the waiver and make it mandatory to be vaccinated.

If I loose this doctor I'm not sure where I'll go because finding them was hard enough in the first place. Luckily they're old enough now i dont necessarily need a straight up pediatrician and they never get sick (maybe a cold here and there but not this winter) so no reason to drag them there unless i need to!

For now it is still your (our) legal right to CHOOSE the waiver. We have to educate our kids that NOBODY is to stick a needle in their body if we are not present. PERIOD.. We have to make our kids understand that they have the right to not be INFERTILE, which is the primary goal here.

Maia Gabrial
17th February 2012, 19:36
For now it is still your (our) legal right to CHOOSE the waiver. We have to educate our kids that NOBODY is to stick a needle in their body if we are not present. PERIOD.. We have to make our kids understand that they have the right to not be INFERTILE, which is the primary goal here.

Starchild111, it will ALWAYS be your right no matter what this wannabe-out-of-control-govt says. Sovereignty is something they cannot take away from anyone. And THAT is above manmade laws. They want people to believe they have the right to step-on their sovereignties. Remember the part about "Inalienable Rights"? That extends to every aspect of our lives and our children's.
Parents have to educate themselves to know what will be harmful or not. Being present while your kids are being stuck by a needle doesn't guarantee no harm done. Don't allow them to walk on YOUR RIGHTS ever! Kindly remind them that all they can do is "suggest or recommend" and that's as far as they can go. YOU decide from there....

BTW, who cares what their goals are anyway? It's not in line with our goals of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Hope you didn't take offense by my comments, starchild111. It was meant to motivate anyone who cared to listen.