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avid

24th February 2012, 15:38

gooty64

24th February 2012, 15:47

I was fortunate enough or dumb-lucky enough to realize in 1990 when I was "sick" that there was something sinister behind anti-depressants.

I have always said that the only possible reason to take anti-depressants is if you are suicidal. But that doesn't even make sense because the ssri's don't take effect for weeks.

Even recently I have had suicidal ideation but, I have a "no kill" clause in my soul contract so I just have to suffer - or not.

So sorry avid, if taking the meds has complicated your pain and suffering. About the only thing that works for me besides self-care is to read Krishnamurti, Tolle or Adyashanti.

take care, gooty

gypsybutterflykiss

24th February 2012, 16:03

Antidepressants aid human beings with the loss of their essence. I've seen the long term affects on many people. The literally become numb to emotions that are vital to a souls progression.

This is just my opinion, many people believe they need thes meds to function. If you are one of those people reading this, please take no offense. I noticed a change within myself ... About five years ago I went on a six week "program" of effexor. The doctor really had no business even writing a prescription for me of the sorts. What I was going through needed to be dealt with and lived through. I was going through a natural grieving process. I used to laugh taking my pills- I called it, "it'll fix her". I noticed a change in myself immediately. I didn't like it. When I finally made it to the last legs off the weaning process---- it was terrible!!!! I truly learned what withdrawals of an addictive substance felt like. I would not wish this on my worst enemy. It was almost so awful I considered to stay on the drugs just so I wouldn't have to go through the agony of this. In the end- that was 6 weeks of blur and all those emotions that I needed to deal with were still there, they were just no longer being masked. I dealt with the problem and moved on. Just as one should.

I want to make a note though about when I was in high school. There was a handful of young girls who started taking birth control pills at the age of 14-15. By the time they reached the age of 16-17 they too were all one antidepressants. See the link? I certainly do. Sad, isn't it?

Arrowwind

24th February 2012, 16:11

gypsybutterflykiss

24th February 2012, 16:26

Avid,
I send you strength and oodles of glittery rainbow light your way!

~gypsy

I was on SSRI's for years, and am now off them. However, I have totally changed, From gregarious to reclusive, creative and clear-thinking to just a shell, with poor recall. A feeling of 'nothingness', unmotivated. I have cut myself off from friends and most of my family. I prefer to stay at home alone, and only venture out once a week to shop. My relationship with my partner has turned into co-existence.

I thought I was just eccentric, and was retired early due to unbearable stress at work which incurred a mental collapse. I was so glad to be at home, do nothing but the basics, and 'switch off'. I was an award-winning designer and since then have given it up. Can't think straight.

Imagine my shock when I read the latest article by Jim Stone entitled:
"Prescribed Deletion..." http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/
Please be warned about this dreadful scenario.
Truly, I feel like I have been lobotomised.

Avid:(

Avid, I am sorry that you have had to go through this. Have you tried a regime of brain nutrients to rebuid your nervous system? I do believe that it is possible. You may want to look into it.

conk

24th February 2012, 16:46

The right nutrients and a clear visualization of the way you want to be and you'll be well again. Raw, unheated, unprocessed fatty acids will aid in your recover. These fats can and should be extra virgin coconut oil, real and fresh olive oil, flax seed oil, raw butter, and cod liver oil. Your brain is starved for these fatty nutrients. Also, as Arrowwind stated, there are many brain nutrients you need. You can get your old self back! You must set the intention and believe it, however.

Jay

24th February 2012, 16:47

Avid - thank you for sharing. I believe there are probably millions "out there" who have shared your experience including me - who haven't had the guts to share.
Strength & blessings to you
... and to others: please say no to these dreadful "helpers" made by big pharma - try the holistic before going there - for your own sake.

avid

24th February 2012, 18:07

Mark

24th February 2012, 18:39

Wow. This is an important article. I know folks on this stuff that will fight you for giving them this information. :(

avid

24th February 2012, 18:47

Has anyone read and acknowledged Jim Stone and his research? His life is on-the-line for this groundbreaking information. Please read his reports and acknowledge his truthfulness. It means so much to us who have been plunged into an abyss for the rest of our lives. Thank you all - and PLEASE follow Jim Stone and his quest for the truth. Much love to everyone who has responded, and much love to those who read up what Jim Stone has put his life on the line for....
Avid :-)

Arrowwind

24th February 2012, 19:06

I am on 5000 iu's of D3 per day, 500 iu's of Vit C, Omega 3. Vit B12 and my usual thyroxine (down to 100 per day). Thank you all for your support. I was a reiki practitioner also, and cannot even give to anything any more - but am trying with my plants at the moment: treat 1 and not the other - see which fares the best. If this is successful I know my energies are still there. Fingers and toes crossed :-)
Onwards and upwards - diet changing deffo...
Avid :-)

Other things to consider are probiotics. Did you know that much of the serrotonin is produced in the gut not the brain? Restablishing good flora may be helpful.
Other nutrients to consider or niacin, B12 injections weekly, and the herb called bacopa... and conk gave good recommendations also. Personally I would add to this the Gerson therapy for about 6 months.

avid

24th February 2012, 19:13

I have tried so many remedies! Thank you for your valuable contribution - please read Jim Stone's website xx

Laurel

25th February 2012, 06:18

Avid, this brings me to tears. I feel the same exact way. Being a perimenopausal, single mom of a teenager, my doctor, of course, put me on anti-depressants (Citalopram) about 5 or 6 years ago. The rest of my story is exactly, word for word, the same as yours. Please know that you are not alone.

Over the past year, I have tried going off the meds cold turkey several times but the withdrawl effects after a few days were horrible. About 3 weeks ago, I started taking a half dose everyday and will continue to gradually wean it down. So far, no withdrawl effects. I'm going to try the suggestions offered on this thread.

Please follow up and let me know if anything here works for you.

Wishing you the very best,
Laurel

Cjay

25th February 2012, 07:32

Avid, sorry to read about your experience. I have been there - done that, about 10 years ago. I mostly got over it. I hope you will too.

I recommend lots of exercise, reconnect with your friends and family and if it helps you, lots of laughter and sex. Seriously... but not necessarily at the same time.

fathertedsmate

25th February 2012, 08:44

Avid, you cant think straight,cant assimulate new information,cant recall old information,dont know how to show emotions,giving the wife a cuddle is a problem,you know its happening but can do nothing about it,this then effects the emotions,you can be holding something in your hand and still spend 10 mins looking for it,by which time you have lost the plot,tying your shoelaces becomes a problem,wont answer the phone or door,plan your day to avoid human contact,thoughts in your head are non stop and all nonsense, your reactions to minor incidents are way over the top,if accused of doing something you didnt,the reaction is .5 of a sec,
ITs not you,you are not eccentric, parasites,bacteria,yeast,fungus,and mould are in controll of the body,they are there,because the conditions for them to grow and thrive have been created due to chemical,heavy metal intake,which eventualy wear the imune system down,this puts the body in a position where the fuel is contaminated,(acidic) growth can now take place,the body is depleted of minerals,oils etc,it has to now compete with,parasites etc for fuel, this manifests into a once happy,healthy human,disintegrating mentally and physically,
it can all be reversed,

Anchor

25th February 2012, 10:53

My heart goes out to you Avid and others.

I know this may not sound plausible, as you have tried so very very hard already to fix this.

However.... I am completely convinced that healing is always possible. Even macro scale "miracle" healings.

Somewhere somehow, you have the possibility to heal. Miracles are possible.

If one can accept what I have said, then one must assume that there are obstacles to be removed - otherwise your desire would be manifest.... the journey could then be, discovering what those are and eliminating them.

My blessings to you.

John..

Bo Atkinson

25th February 2012, 11:14

I'm on my way to learn about Jim Stone....
Here are a couple relavent links to share on subject generally.
May we raise awarenesses through many kinds of links.

The Drugging of our Children (Gary Null) (SSRI drug dangers)(Columbine shooting)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3609599239524875493

Anti Aging Part 2: Brain Boosters
http://www.garynull.com/home/anti-aging-part-2-brain-boosters.html

There seems to be a serious video competition on the realistic subject called:
"death by medicine"
http://www.youtube.com/results?client=safari&rls=en&q=death+by+medicine&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=w1

eileenrose

25th February 2012, 12:58

Thanks for the article. Very important for everyone to know about (all the side affects). The brain damage alone gives me pause. Obviously, eventually, these products will be taken off the market (one way or another). In the meantime, I feel you can repair the brain. It is probably not a simple idea to try out (on yourself). Like where do you begin (if you have these brain issues). Hopefully everyone will start sharing their personal experiences/experiments with getting better and we can come together to help one another through this.

I, for example, watch a TV show all about repairing the brain. I'm sorry I didn't write down the name of the show (or the host's name....the researcher/doctor behind this information). I think it was PBS show. Anyway, he had a way to measure the brain (some sort of way of showing all the brain damage you have incurred) and then he showed pictures of everyone's brain that had gone through his diet regiment (I believe he felt that supplements and diet fixed the brain...all I can recall)....and they were all much better (and he wasn't lying).
It just took 10 years is all.
...for it to work.

I have a few ideas, to begin with, if someone is interested in a thread about solutions to anti-depressant poisoning.

Note:
...for instance, my feeling is that the brain can be repaired...it is just no one researches it (hence the decisions to just say, by doctors/researchers, 'there is no cure' when really they are saying 'don't bother me' and 'it is to long term a project for me to get involved in....changing your diet! ...we never do that....etc.').

Lifebringer

25th February 2012, 13:31

they tried to get me to keep taking pharma phych drugs when I caught a burnout when the purged my name from the voting list, unjustifiably.

It was all my ancestors had bequeath me as an AA. and I felt violated.

Sorta short circuited because it didn't compute. I had lived within the laws and just like that, i wasn't counted and Bush got in. He did more damage than people know to the mental stability of lower class masses.

After using them for a couple of months and finally getting some sleep, I noticed missing memory episodes, more frequent. Forgetting what happened seconds ago. I stopped taking them emersed myself in a campaign to fight back and I've been fine ever since. I even went to a phychiatrist analyst to treat my stress, and was simply diagnosed with a "severe intolerance for bullsh*t."
She told me to treat those on the more selfish level as satelites, as they will always come around to gain information, but they don't stick around for long.
She said the protectors in my life, and gut woman instinct was best in selecting the type of friends that care for real, and not just what they can get from me. I am known as a giver, and there are givers and takers. Sometimes, expecially now in human history, you have to surround yourselves with positive to recharge after being around the negative. Avalon has done this for me spiritually. I grow/evolve here and feel welcome.

Lifebringer

25th February 2012, 13:56

They gave my husband Zoloft (I call it float off) he needed to at the time, but it started doing other stuff to him, he didn't like and stopped after 2 months. He's been dealing with life on life's terms now and looking forward to some sanity in the world, not just his own.

kcbc2010

25th February 2012, 15:03

Bookmarking and bumping.

avid

25th February 2012, 15:23

I have tried CBT (Cognitive Behavioural Therapy) - it worked for awhile, but you keep having to apply the 'rules' - if you can remember them!!! This is expensive for most people.

This article substantiates my original post even more: http://naturalsociety.com/antidepressants-proven-to-be-useless-pushed-on-public-anyway/#ixzz1nM9V4oxQ

The psychiatric community as well as health and government officials have been pushing antidepressants on the people for years. Instead of addressing the underlying cause of such negative feelings, psychiatrists and medical representatives have been making you think that the only answer to depression is an antidepressant drug. However, the claims that antidepressants are the answer are completely false, but many will refuse to admit the truth to the public. Why? Perhaps it has to do with the fact that antipsychotics raked in over $14 billion in sales back in 2008. much more on link

Avid

Flash

25th February 2012, 15:41

I was on SSRI's for years, and am now off them. However, I have totally changed, From gregarious to reclusive, creative and clear-thinking to just a shell, with poor recall. A feeling of 'nothingness', unmotivated. I have cut myself off from friends and most of my family. I prefer to stay at home alone, and only venture out once a week to shop. My relationship with my partner has turned into co-existence.

I thought I was just eccentric, and was retired early due to unbearable stress at work which incurred a mental collapse. I was so glad to be at home, do nothing but the basics, and 'switch off'. I was an award-winning designer and since then have given it up. Can't think straight.

Imagine my shock when I read the latest article by Jim Stone entitled:
"Prescribed Deletion..." http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/
Please be warned about this dreadful scenario.
Truly, I feel like I have been lobotomised.

Avid:(

Avid, I am sorry that you have had to go through this. Have you tried a regime of brain nutrients to rebuid your nervous system? I do believe that it is possible. You may want to look into it.

Very good point Arrowind. Brain nutrient will help to rebuild brain functions. I also used 5 HTP which a a body precursor of serotonine (so the body makes it to be sent to the brain, it is not directly pumped in the brain) to help me in the weaining phase from anti-depressants. It helped a lot, but has to be a temporary transitory solution only.

As for anti-depressant, they left me with a fleeting sense of disconnect from life, and it took me a full years of weaning from it, in which I would be fine for 2 hours and go down deep for 1 hour, fine again for an hour and go deep again, in saw like this for a full year, you have to be really ready to wean from them and know that this will happen and that it is normal body/brain reaction from getting off any drug including cocaine etc.

Yes, the brain is rewired and some parts may be destroyed with any I mean any drug, be cocaine, heroine, marihuana or anti-depressants. Over usage of any of these will destroy part of the brain and rewire other parts. Weaning becomes very difficult then.

But it is possible to recuperate most brain functions with time and the right brain/body nutrients.

Be patient, give it time, it took often many years to get to that bad situation, give it the same time to come back from it.

What worries me as well is the huge amount of anti-depressants and anti-anovulant found in city waters all over North America. We are receiving brain neuroleptics without even being prescribed it and it does change the brain neurochemistry as well as rewire the brain.

Arrowwind

25th February 2012, 15:41

ITs not you,you are not eccentric, parasites,bacteria,yeast,fungus,and mould are in controll of the body,they are there,because the conditions for them to grow and thrive have been created due to chemical,heavy metal intake,which eventualy wear the imune system down,this puts the body in a position where the fuel is contaminated,(acidic) growth can now take place,the body is depleted of minerals,oils etc,it has to now compete with,parasites etc for fuel, this manifests into a once happy,healthy human,disintegrating mentally and physically,
it can all be reversed,

I agree here. And you might want to consider all that brought you to try the ssri's in the first place.
Its a huge pill to swallow, starting to understand that your mental state is directly related to your overall physiological health. The medical system has worked diligently to try to separate the mind from the brain, from the total body.

I would not say that some people suffer from metal and chemical toxicity and parasites of various sorts, I would say that most people suffer from metal toxicity and parasties if they are not well. This is what they dont want you to know and this is the basis of much of the FDA limitation on alternative medicine and alternative medical devices.

The total solution to this can be found in the Gerson therapy and MMS. Although there are other options one can consider, I have seen these first hand do the work.
One's soul has a very hard time manefesting its intent through a physical vehicle that is polluted. Clean the body and the spirit reigns free.

Sidney

25th February 2012, 15:44

Avid, Thank you for starting this thread, as I am sure this scenario is in epidemic proportions. My husband has taken antidepressants for over 20years. He has tried to go off, and has tried numerous natural medicines to no avail. His personality is just as you described, a recluse, antisocial anxiety ridden, And this is when he is ON the meds. When he goes off of them, he is unbearable to live with. A total non-participant in life. The real him, is hidden, but he has no choice but to stay on them for now, because for him to function professionally, his brain has to work. It feels like a no win situation.

I also want to add to this conversation, the dangers of the trend of sleep meds, (ambien,lunesta, etc) are just as harmful of not more. I have thought for a long time that there has been a deliberate war on our brains, as they can cause insomnia with their directed energy weapons. people are desperate for sleep so they can function, and go to the dr to get meds, and in turn between sleep meds, and antidepressants, it has become a world full of people with chemical lobotomies.
I know it in every fiber of my being that this is by design. We have been under attack for years, and our numbed out brains are the fruitation of "their" evil plan.

Kamikaze

25th February 2012, 15:45

delete it all.

avid

25th February 2012, 20:03

A good friend just sent this info to me:
http://seroxatsecrets.wordpress.com/seroxatpaxil-withdrawal-help/
There are many links from this info!
Good luck to all :-)
Avid

avid

25th February 2012, 20:23

Kamikaze - we live in an unnatural environment of 'fear' perpetrated by the MSM. We are being poisoned from the skies, in processed foods, in our water. Our livelihoods have been compromised by a greedy cabal who wish to enslave what is left of us (after treating 'disease' and not 'preventing' it with half-tried and often poorly-tested medications). There is mass confusion. Only those who cut themselves off from MSM, go off the grid and grow organic seem to be well.
I reckon we ought to go back to basics and community - like it was after the 2nd world war - where everyone was positive and worked for the common good. A wee bit difficult now our youngest generations are so self-possessed, unskilled and dumbed-down. Pathetic.
If there was a change in our environment - perhaps the grid goes down - there will be a huge learning-curve for the youngest. Maybe this will be a turning-point for a better way? I just know everyone is under too much pressure, and therefore they succumb to being totally negligent in the care of themselves and others - blinkered by the promises of 'celebrity' and 'winnings'. It is all very sad....
Just my thoughts of this vast issue..
Avid

Carmody

25th February 2012, 21:03

Feeling touch suicidal is usually a sign the the inner workings of the ego and it's machinations are coming to a boil.

With regard to fixing the self, this is usually a good sign.

Can't be fixed you are broken broken, and all that. Note that brainwashing uses these tactics of the breaking of the self, in order to insert their programming. Hypnotism is a very interesting methodology that employs similar channels and aspects of the DUALITY, of the mind.

DUALITY--as you are not fully awake right now. If you can use your body with some autonomous functions intact, which we all do..then you exist in duality.

when hypnotized, people can do things like look through walls, or people, remote view, telekinetic capacities, etc.

This is due to the capacity to do these things being inherent in the body and the 3d reality. SERIOUSLY. How powerfully do I have to say things? SERIOUSLY!!!!!!! it is there and it hides behind your duality existence layer.

So?

what you gonna do about it?

Live like an emotionally driven monkey, or wade your way through the ego and the autonomous body control systems..and start working directly with this reality?

What's it gonna be?

onawah

25th February 2012, 21:26

Our Mother Earth is the best healer of all.
Spend as much time in Nature as you can.
Go for a walk, a swim, a hike, a campout,
a picnic, hug a tree, climb a tree, plant a tree,
start a garden, a rock or crystal or shell collection, buy some house plants,
adopt a pet, go horseback riding, join an outdoor sports team, join the Sierra Club,
go star gazing, bird watching, fishing, crabbing on the seashore, kyacking, canoeing,
build a fountain or a gold fish pond in your back yard, plant some flowers, build a greenhouse,
etc etc etc
Just being outdoors and connecting with Nature and All Our Relations in simple, fundamental ways is such a positive, healing thing to do.
The more you do it, the better and more connected you feel.
Carlos Castenada's teacher, Don Juan Matus spoke of digging a hole in the ground in a specially chosen private spot, deep enough for you to lie down in comfortably.
You can line it to stay warm and dry, but not too much.
The object is to have as much direct contact with the earth as you can.
Lie in it as much as you can, for as long as you can.
The Earth will heal you!

Laurel

26th February 2012, 01:57

Check out this thread on a depression forum:
http://www.depressionforums.org/forums/topic/4147-stopping-citalopram-celexa-cipramil-seropram-discontinuation-effects-or-withdrawal-symptoms/
The posts are pretty old, but the content is very supportive. So many people going through the exact same thing, dealing with the same effects.

Also, you speak of fear in our environment being a factor. Another huge factor is the constant rushed pace of the environment. Everyone wants everything NOW. There is so much pressure to provide goods or a service at such a frantic pace. If you cannot keep up, there is a line of people waiting to take your place. Yes, I know it's all part of the programming (reffering back to the a different thread). Sometimes I think they've backed us into a corner and said, "here's a pill to deal with it".

aranuk

26th February 2012, 03:00

I find a few pints of beer do the trick. And I still smoke, me bad.

Stan

westhill

26th February 2012, 03:10

Hi Avid...
Please don't take D3. Take D2. Here's why from Dr. Mercola...

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/02/23/oral-vitamin-d-mistake.aspx?e_cid=20120223-b3-ProductTest-1

[Mod-edit: I think you got that backwards :). D3 is better. -Paul.]

Anchor

26th February 2012, 06:57

Hi Avid...
Please don't take D2. Take D3. Here's why from Dr. Mercola...

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/02/23/oral-vitamin-d-mistake.aspx?e_cid=20120223-b3-ProductTest-1

There I fixed it :)

crested-duck

10th March 2012, 13:52

Testosrerone levels are affected and need to be monitored and adjusted after stopping meds. That's one of the bad side effect that I encountered!

Laurel

8th May 2012, 06:00

I am posting an update, as I know there are many people in the same situation trying to get off antidepressants.

I was on 40mg of Citalopram for a few years. Everytime I wanted to quit, my doctor would convince me not to. Finally I said enough and took control of the situation. I previously tried quitting too quickly, and the side effects were awful. This time I took it very slowly.

The first week of February I cut my pills in half, from 40mg to 20mg. Roughly 3 weeks later, I cut them in quarters, from 20mg to 10mg. About 3 weeks after that, I went from 10mg to 5mg for a couple weeks and them every other day for about a week. All of this was very slow and with no side effects. The key was to not skip a day as I was weaning the dosage down. About 3 weeks ago, I stopped taking them altogether.

The first couple of weeks completely off the pills were a bit shaky, but not as bad as my previous attempts. The past week has been good, but I still occasionally get that shivery, dizzy sensation.

My emotions are coming back in a good way. Orgasms are ... wow (ok, I'm a scorpio so wow is normal, but this is better than it's been in years). All of that talk about irreversible brain damage on other threads scared the heck out of me, but it's proving to not be true. Also, I picked up some 5-HTP a couple days ago and notice a difference.

5-HTP is very good for light depression, anxiety, trouble sleeping and weight loss. It is natural and consists of an amino acid which increases serotonin. Don't take it if you are currently on antidepressants, taking any form of tryptophan, or doing a road trip to Peru for an ayahuasaca retreat. Also, make sure you're using a good brand from a trusted store.

Hopefully this will help those of you trying to quit antidepressants. Know that you are not going through it alone. Take it slowly, you can do it.

~ Laurel

:cheer2:

wynderer

8th May 2012, 08:22

the worst effect is the withdrawal -- when they cut off all the meds in this country, a lot will go psycho for a while

i am a recovering alcoholic &i have done a few rehabs -- the most psychologically & spiritually messed-up women there were the ones who were addicted to 'meds '

i did editorial proofreading for 4-5 yrs for one of the top medical publishers -- i stay as far away from docs & hospitals as i can

danceblackcatdance

8th May 2012, 08:49

Sorry to read about this, my dearest cousin has been on meds for years and am concerned for her... Anyway hope things are improving for you, looks like good advice here.

Being a designer myself and spent a lot of time sitting down in front of a computer, I know what it feels like... We are made to move but people often forget about their bodies, most of the time a healthy mind has a healthy body... I often find a good walk in beautiful surroundings away from being locked in a room very helpful... You are not a prisoner...

Anyway, book into a local tai chi or yoga class, i really really can't recommend enough, natural endorphins.. take care :)

frozen alchemy

8th May 2012, 17:03

5-HTP is wonderful, do the research and try it. Also lecithin, a choline donor, which raises the level of acetylcholine, a major neurotransmitter. Try a diet high in eggs (choline again, plus vitamins), sunflower seeds, bananas, almonds (tryptophan). Cut way back on carbs, especially wheat and corn syrup ones. Get plenty of rest and sunshine and avoid fluorescent lights like the plague that they are.

Sidney

8th May 2012, 17:13

For the article prescribed deletion- the above link no longer takes you to it so here it is. I am not sure where the rest of the sections are though. I think this link might change data every couple days or something, not sure.

http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/testimony1.html

PRESCRIBED DELETION - the truth about antidepressants.

This is a massive subject, and I am living a very difficult life at this time which is interfering with my writing. So, I have to rough this out. This report is based mainly upon information I gathered during a study of antidepressants I did in 2008/09. This was the study that netted the classified documents from GSK
This is the first section of this report.

I will do this report one section at a time, and the steps will be:

1. Testimonies of people destroyed by antidepressants

2. The chemistry of the various antidpressants, and which dangerous substances in everyday life they deliver directly to the brain - Yes, you heard that right, there are several that do nothing more than deliver modeling glue and other nasty aromatic hydrocarbons straight to your brain, and KEEP THEM THERE. Several would be replaced well by a gasoline inhaler attached to a backpack that you carry with you - (pill form is easier though) and others, like Prozac, are derived from fluoride. Antidepressants deliver a very stable but FILTHY high until you fry, and the hydrocarbon based ones cause exactly the same damage you get from working in a paint booth without a respirator. I HAVE PROOF.

3. The visible physical damage antidepressants cause and how and why it occurs, including osteo porosis, calcification of the brain, brain shrinkage, destruction of white matter, corkscrewed axons, liver and other organ damage, and some interesting ancedotes related to this;

4. The motivation for attempting to destroy the entire population of a nation with these substances, and an expose of the corruption in the FDA, the medical community, the Jewish connection, the banker/Rothchild/Rockefeller/facist connection, the future slave state, how the research SSRI's are based on was done in Russia and imported to America in the form of Prozac, and the proposed finalization of the destruction of Western civilization which "antidepressants" will play a central role in.

5. A detailed exposure of why antidepressants destroy bonding relationships, and make it impossible for anyone to fall permanently in love for REAL, with a little side attachment explaining the reasons for why specific brands destroy sex in different ways. - I actually have the line by line answers for EACH BRAND, and which part of the brain they ruin to often permanently destroy sex in different ways. Different brands destroy different pathways, but all are effective in wrecking sex.

6. How they get away with hurting so many people under the supposed cover of doing good, and the methods put in place to avoid being sued, imprisoned, and hung. What WE need to do to forever expose this scam, and make sure they are sued, imprisoned, and hung. I have the answer to EXACTLY how we can blow this open and hang them.

SO, due to the hacks and deletions I am constantly fighting, here is a rather rough start. It's obvious from all that has transpired that this is a stab at the root of the worst evil, this is going to piss them off more than anything.

Prescribed Deletion - testimonies of the destroyed.

These are the words of those who have been destroyed by antidepressants. If you are among them, STOP listening to your P-doc telling you it never happens; the reality is that they ALL know it happens and they are lying to you. View this chart, and READ THE RESULTS THAT FOLLOW.

These are testimonies of people destroyed by antidepressants.

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"Whoever said that they lost most their ability to love; MAN, that is the thing I miss the most. I was a very, very, very passionate person prior to celexa. I was passionate about everything, my marriage, my job, my country. I couldn't hear our national anthem without stopping and feeling the hairs on the back of my neck stand straight up. 14 years in the Army National guard, I was very into my career with them too. I was passionate about running, about my relationship with (and this will probably sound wierd) my dog. I miss all of these things. I hope they all come back to me. They were very much the bricks in the foundation of my life and I feel like they are gone. When I say I want the old me back, I mean the person who was passionate, the person who loved and was loved. The driven person who saw what he wanted and went out and got it. That was all taken from me with the introduction of Celexa in my life. I just want it back."

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"I've been in an extremely peculiar state for the past 8 months after stopping Wellbutrin/buproprion. I have literally lost everything inside of me and no longer have a sense of "inner being". My personality has been completely erased, along with the inner psyche I've spent a lifetime building. When I attempt to "look inside", it is impossible because there is literally nothing there. Everything that made up my specific sense of personal being is gone, including including my hopes, fears, dreams, goals, opinions, values, morals, likes/dislikes, and most strikingly, all emotions and feelings.

I have no feelings associated with past events, and no emotional connections with anything in the world. Specific emotions that defined my personal sense of being are no longer there. People, places, things and events that I thought were etched in my soul as having significance no longer mean a thing. Absolutely nothing, I can't stress this enough.

I am unable to look backward or forward, have no sense of past accomplishments and no desire for future ones. The strangest thing is, I cannot feel anything toward being in this state, as that part of me is gone too. It's like a recursive erasure of everything I ever was, am, and will be.

It doesn't feel like life is a conscious experience that I am having anymore, as there is no inner construct within me to absorb an experience on any level. I see, hear, touch, and smell, yet each of these is so devoid of emotional content that they don't coalesce into anything meaningful I can call a human consciousness. My sense of being has been replaced by a constant void of nothingness that is unchanging, 24/7, I feel nothing towards the nothingness. It is not like feeling empty inside, there is no inside to feel empty within.

Getting to this state was a long process that started with gradually losing my emotions. This started when I decided to withdraw from the antidepressant Wellbutrin/Bupropion which I'd been on a high dosage of for 5 years. Strangely, going back on it did not help, but made things worse. When I stopped and started the drug a second time, I experienced one tremendous day of improvement followed by a seizure while sleeping, and woke up in a confused state. After this I regressed and felt completely dead inside.

This waking up in a confused state happened 2 more times, once in May 2010 and once in September 2010. Both of these were preceded by sudden improvements. But upon waking I felt like I had lost a basic part of my self. Not just feelings, but the core of my being. What I felt to be the complete and final destruction of my inner being happened on September 7th, 2010, and there hasn't been a change since (it has now been 8 months).

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"I tell you, I never had a problem before celexa. I just want to be back to me. I want to no longer be the pitiful creature it made me. I want to be me. The old me. I want myself back. Life isn't worth living with this new person holding my thoughts and feelings hostage. I have been off Celexa since last year. I JUST WANT ME BACK."

"I have been on 0 mgs for almost a year, and my emotional state has yet to come back to normal. (normal me). I have been from Psyc doc to Psyc doc (never needed before celexa) to try to figure it out. They point the problem back to me. I found out by reading around the Internet, and buying the book "Prozac: Panacea or Pandora" by doctor Ann Blake Tracy, and I found out that several people, if not all people, who go off these drugs experience exactly what I have experienced. When Natalie wrote what she wrote, you can go back to some of my earlier posts and the withdrawal effects are written down almost verbatim. These are bad for our brains, they change our personalities. I want my life back, and don't want even my worst enemy to experience what I have been through. These people have no love for their fellow man. We need to, no matter how emotionally messed up we are, we need to band together and prevent them (a commercial for Cymbalta just came on the tv, made my blood boil) from prescribing them to ANYONE. Depression hurts said the commercial, I never knew depression till after celexa. I have been through hell, therefore hell exists."

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"What I don't understand is how a drug could completely erase me as a human being. What I'm experiencing is not depression, anhedonia, or flat affect, but a permanent change in my consciousness that literally destroyed my humanity. All the parts that made up my being are literally gone. I don't understand how this is even possible, or what (if anything) I can do to change it."

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"I'm 25 yrs old. I used to be a bodybuilder, avid fisherman, used to drag race, and enjoy the great outdoors. USED TO.

I was on effexor for about 3 yrs, 75mgs. I decided I wanted to stop taking it, I felt fine. Im 25 I said and I can deal with lifes problems.

I told my doc if I may discontinue the drug he said sure, if you want to. Doctor didn't even ask me if I wanted to wean off, I suggested him to give me the 35mgs, but he gave me only a weeks worth.

I have never in life felt so sick. I would not wish this on anyone, not even my enemy. The first 3 months were hell. dizziness, nausea, fatigue, bad memory, brain zaps, you name it I had it. I couldnt even walk sometimes.

I fought and fought and it is now 7 months that I am clean off this horrible so called drug.

To this day, 7 MONTHS later, I am left with weakness, bad memory, and horrible coordination.

I can no longer workout, all my muscles went down, I have no energy to do what I liked to do in my life. I cannot function or remember things at work. I am useless. If it wasn't my cousins place, I would have been fired along time ago.

I am not depressed, I don't have panic attacks.

In my opinion, Effexor has left me permanent damage. I have been through more tests than you can think of. blood tests upon blood tests for every disease known to man.

This drug has changed my life for the worse and everynight i cry, because I feel that this medicine has severly left me damaged. My doctor has no idea what to do."

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"I was prescribed Zoloft 25-50mgs 9 years ago while I was in college.

Before I begin with the nightmare, let me stress I WAS NOT SICK when I started this drug. I had anxiety (situational )and was a little tired. That is it. Other than these issues, I was as healthy as a horse, never been in the hospital, rarely if ever needed to go to the doctor. I was very active and on the go.

Well, Zoloft worked immediately, what can I say. I loved it. Loved it loved it loved it. I thought it was a gift from God, saved me and my college career. I wasn't as shy as I had been. I felt more social.

But then I found I could not get off without severe head pain and brain zaps. So, I stayed on it. Every few months I would think about going off again, but the symptoms I would get kept me on it, and very afraid to come off. So, I stayed on it for 8 long years. (I forgot to mention I gained 25 pounds within the first 3 months on it. That was another reason I wanted off).

After 8 years, I'd had enough. I felt like I no longer needed it, I had been long out of college and the original situations that gave me anxiety were long gone. So, at my doctors advice, I tapered over about 3-4 weeks.

Then my life was shattered. Completely shattered.

I was told the withdrawal would only last a week or two at most, so I rode it out. It never went away and only kept getting worse. So, I gave up and tried to go back on. I couldn't take the symptoms anymore. But my body was having none of that. Strangely, now when I took Zoloft, my body and brain reacted badly, as if it were rejecting it. I got a fever and felt like I was dying. I had no choice but to get off again. I was given other SSRI's, but none of them helped either, and all of them made me worse. I no longer tolerated meds like I did prior to Zoloft.

I kid you not, here I am 3 YEARS later and still very ill, and it all began when getting off Zoloft. Here is what I suffer 24/7.....

severe head pain and pressure
brain zaps/ electrical zaps shooting through brain down to toes
burning in extremities and brain
severe fatigue and weakness
dizziness/vertigo
severe depression ( never was depressed, ever, until coming off Zoloft )
severe anxiety
panic attacks...BAAAAD
daily crying jags
skin eruptions and
bone and muscle pain
burning tongue
insomnia
digestive pain
cramping on right side under rib cage
hair loss
sensitivities to food and medications previously tolerated well
extremely sensitive to vitamins and minerals previously tolerated well
no motivation / severe apathy
loss of career and income/ on disability
derealization/ depersonalization
back and neck spasms
unable to drive, shop, or eat out
increased allergies to things once tolerated well ( smoke, dust, cats )
suicidal thoughts....pretty regularly and very scary
nightmares
jaw pain from clenching teeth ( I guess from severe stress )
agoraphobia...very heartbreaking since I used to be so busy
ears ringing
feeling like being hit it the back of the head with a shovel
pressure in chest, like a 100 elephants are sitting on me
racing pulse, even when resting
increased blood pressure and cholesterol
metallic taste
bladder spasms
loss of cognition/ mental function ( feels like I lost 50 IQ points )
difficulty concentrating and recalling facts

I wrote a letter to Pfizer, detailing my story and my symptoms. They blew me off and wanted a doctors opinion of what my illness is from. No doctor will admit to Zoloft being the cause of this illness, so Pfizer pretty much told me they take no responsibility. They ruined my life, and take no responsibility. They train their drug reps to educate doctors that these drugs are harmless. They know better, but rake in too much money to do anything about it.

They do not care how many lives they destroy, as long as they continue making their billions off innocent victims."

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"My withdrawal from Seroxat/Paxil (a few years ago, now). I became very aggressive on the stuff (many arrests and court appearances), and on some days I could pop valium like smarties without it making the slightest bit of difference. When I decided it would be a clever move to stop taking it and put up with a few days of flu-like symptoms, I found out what withdrawal was really like.

I slashed at my arms, I rolled around on the floor, screaming, because everything felt raw (my theory is that we 'normally' perceive the world through a comfortable haze of endorphins--which was stripped away) and when the police were called I freaked out completely and brandished a knife at them.

My husband referred to that state as being 'animalistic'.

Needless to say, I escaped jail by a hair's breadth. When I ended up in ER, following a dose of pepper spray in my face, I begged for Seroxat and the doc just laughed in my face and said they weren't running a pharmacy. They did not believe there was such a thing as SSRI/SNRI withdrawal syndrome. I think they still don't.

In the cell, waiting for the court appearance, I had the worst shakes and weird feelings (derealisation, having two heads, having my head swell to the size of a water melon). The junky I shared the cell with said: "Wow, what are you on?"

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I was put on zoloft, and when I stopped taking it I became disoriented didn't remember anything for 3 days. Lost my systems design engineering job I had for 7 years with 21 succesful projects. Lost my income, lost my mind, lost my home, cars, family heirlooms retirement, etc.etc. It all happened after taking ZOLOFT. I was finally diagnosed with a form of epilepsy and put on anti siezure meds..Lamictal. The Zoloft stuff took place In the 3rd world state of Louisiana..no recourse..Louisiana SUCKS. I now live in Florida, I'm 100% disabled and doing somewhat better thanks to my wife and my 2 wonderful kids that stood by me during those nightmarish days. By the way..the state of louisiana does not recognize the brain as an organ according to one ambulance chasing Lawyer. It only counts as an organ during a lawsuit right after an accident. If there are problems 10 years later...too bad it is no longer relevent.

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The first time I tried to get off cymbalta, I tapered over two months. Three weeks after the last dose, I was still extremely affected. I almost lost my job (doctor-level position), I almost quit my job.

I had about two months of hell trying to get off it.

So I'd be trying to pick up my clothes to get dressed in the morning and it was like zap zap zap grip wall zap pick up shirt zap zap nausea zap sit back down zap. Then I'd be talking to someone at work and i'd have the zaps and want to say 'oh just dont mind my nystagmus, nothing to worry about'

I don't feel that pissed off about it all right now, I just wonderhow long it will take before the brain zaps go away for good

I think I might donate some money to some organization this year that lobbies for more disclosure to patients about this **** because my dr who first prescribed it to me said 'Really? It causes vertigo in you? I am on it too and I get that too--I wonder what's up with that.'.

Followup: I'm up to about 6 months since I was taking Cymbalta every day and I still have weird effects like those described above. It has gotten to be kind of a joke now and mostly I just get the weird vertigo zaps. I wonder if it is 'permanent' a lot.

It is a very distinct 'zap' and it feels way more sketchy and scary than the depression that caused me to go looking for an antidepressant.

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"The worst kind of hell imaginable. I was off of this drug for 4 months without a hint of relief from the withdrawl symptoms. I was scared for my life and at the same time wanted to die..... Furthermore, every doctor I saw told me that Paxil isn't addictive. **FRUSTRATION** Hated it!"

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"Please consider this before commenting on antidepressants in a positive way.

About 10 years ago, the medical school at a major university began to notice a large number of cadavers coming in (for the medical students to work on) which had indented and calcified frontal lobes in their brains.

Puzzled by this, they went through the life history of each cadaver that had this anomaly, and discovered that in every case, the person had been on SSRI antidepressants.

The level of brain damage indicated that each of the cadavers had been lobotomized.

The people who drew the connection between the calcified and collapsed frontal lobes (the part of the brain which contains your soul) and antidepressants received offers of money to keep it secret, and when they chose to go public anyway, received anonymous death threats against their families and children if they ever went public.

I have seen many people get destroyed by antidepressants, all the while they said all was well. Invariably they go down the toilet as they eventually move toward complete and total emotional and personality flatline."

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"I decided I did not want to be ruled by this drug. Under the supervision of my doctor over a two month period, I weened myself from cymbalta forever. Each time I went down to a smaller dose I got sick. I had headaches, brain zaps, nausea, flu-like symptoms, I blacked out, my memory would get worse, until the culmination of taking no Cymbalta at all. Fortunately my mother is retired and was able to stay with me- I was withdrawaling like I assume people do on heavy street drugs! I would go to sleep hoping I would not wake up and be in pain throughout the day. My pain would get worse as the day progressed and by 4:00 I could barely stand the headaches, nausea, the ear ringing, and brain zaps. It has been a year since I have been off of Cymbalta and I continue to have horrible headaches that get worse as the day progresses; my ears ring, and my vision is screwed up. I see little lights at night time. My memory is not what it used to be and when I tell my doctors that I think I was permanatley poisoned by cymbalta they look at me like I am crazy (and isn't that the reason I went on the cymbalta in the first place?)"

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"I am on my 7th day of no Cymbalta after being on it for only 3 weeks. I went from 60mg to 30mg, no problem. Then 30mg to 15mg, by making my own pills from the 30mg. Brain Zaps started. Now since I am clean for 7 days the Brain Zaps are hell, I think I even blink when they hit me. Inside my head the Zaps sound like a chattering angry squirrel. The people that made this drug must have never tested it for withdrawals. I have terrible back pain, have trouble sleeping, and have even cried twice this week. I just took 50mg of benedryl and 1000mg of tylenol hoping I can sleep tonight. I also gained weight on the drug. Has anyone that dealt with the Brain Zaps stopped having them all together? They are so bad, I am afraid to drive, I now understand why some folks kill themselves coming off drugs like this one. If there is a happy ending, I would love to know about it. Almost forgot, Blood Pressure has gone thru the roof coming off this stuff."

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"I will name the countless symptoms and probably unreversable brain damage I am living with after Effexor. There are good days in wich some of the symptoms won't arise for exception of the pain. Those are the days I can be a mother and wife but still the shadow of the energetic person I was. Back in July all the symptoms hit me all at once. Blury vision, dizzy, letargic, high pitch ringing in my ears, exhaustion, pain all over my body, joints and muscles. Muscle twitching, slurred speech, urinary incontinence at times, hair lose in patches. It is impossible for me to normally work at any type of job now. I have states where I would forget what I am doing. I have times in wich I have a hard time controlling voluntary motor functions in my legs and arms (such as not being able to write, open a bottle or carry anything). Every now and then muscles will begin to twitch, then just stop, out of the blue. I became lethargic and have no energy to do anything. Not to mention times or days when I can not drive due to the chance that I would have an accident beacuse of the sudden blury vision or dizzines that make it dificult to see. Not to mention when I suddenly forget where I am going or doing."

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Since I started taking effexor, My memory is going out the window. I am having trouble remembering things from yesterday, granted I haven’t always been the best to remember things. I have noticed that I am forgetting tasks at work, this has never happened. I find myself using an entire pad of sticky notes, and forgetting to complete the notes written.

I’ve been taking Effexor since last November, and I’ve been having memory problems. Even yesterday I can barely remember. It’s so difficult. Usually, I had a good memory but now it has gone down hill.

I’ve been on it for about 9 months, and the SAME thing is happening to me. i forget things daily, lose things often, and my attention span is like a 3 year old boy. my doctor also told me theyre not connected, but i KNOW they are, which is the main reason i’m coming off the drug now. i wishi would have been informed of all this before i got hooked on the stinking drug.

I have been experiencing memory loss for awhie also. I started taking Effexor spring 2005. Before that I had been taking Zoloft, which was not working for my anxiety and depression. I notice about 3-6 months into taking Effexor that my short term memory was playing tricks on me and the more I think about it the more I realize this drug has something to do with that. What should we do now? Does anyone else think we should be contacting the company and find out the truth about this being a side effect???

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"I have been on Celexa for almost three years. the results: lost a job and a marriage due to being so non complacent but gained 20 lbs. I skipped a few doses several weeks ago and decided it was time to wean myself off. I tapered down very quickly and am now dealing with the following withdrawal symptoms:

Anxiety
Dizziness
Fatigue
Headache
Insomnia
Diarrhea
Nausea
Restlessness
Blurred vision
Jolting electric "zaps" (at bedtime)
Tingling sensations
Abdominal discomfort
Flu symptoms and general malaise
agitation
Vertigo
Gait disturbances
Sweating
Irritability
Aggression
Sleep disturbance and insomnia
Nightmares
Vivid dreams
Confusion
Memory and concentration difficulties
Crying spells
Lethargy
Weakness

The aggression is the scariest part but now that I know almost everyone experiences this I feel better. From reading most of the posts it doesn't seem to matter if you wean yourself or go cold turkey, the withdrawal symptoms appear the same."

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I believe SSRIs "cause" neurogenesis through the brains compensatory mechanisms. By inducing a massive chemical imbalance at the synaptic level, SSRIs force the brain to respond by shutting down these connections and creating new ones (which then get shut down, and the cycle continues). Unfortunately, these new connections (axons) often resemble the type of new axonal growth (swollen/corksrew appearance) seen after recovery from a neurotoxic MDMA regimen. (editor's note - MDMA is Ecstacy) These axons also often grow and/or project into areas where they did not before, and the significance of this is as of yet unknown.

7. The most troubling permanent lasting adverse neurological effects you may experience after prolonged SSRI usage (and consequent STOPPING) are :

a). Word finding troubles
b). Absolute emotional flatness and deadness
c). Permanently reduced sex drive
d). An odd, pervasive social anxiety/awkwardness
e). Trouble with coordination
f). Bad memory
g). Trouble retrieving words
h). Overall paucity of thought and expression
i). Lack of creativity and intellectual fluidity (mental fog)
j). A lack of ability to "steer" or control the tone of your voice
(I've noticed this- that I sound shaky and agitated no matter what my
mood is, and people think I'm upset when I'm really not)

8. After these brain damaging effects have sunken in, you may have great difficulty finding support anywhere. Talking to a p-doc may be an exercise in futility. They will want to protect their own interests and shield themselves from a possible lawsuit, hence you may be told continually to get back on meds/up your dosage. The more you protest, the less credibility you have, thus the more evidence in your p-doc's mind that you need to go back on SSRIs.

9. Once you realize the extent of the damage, and it sinks in beyond the denial you may initially face, it will be hard to explain to others exactly why you are not the same person you used to be. The damage is similar to a TBI (Traumatic Brain Injury) yet it might be better termed DBI (Diffuse Brain Injury).

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Cymbalta

"Oh, how the withdrawal wrecked me. The only thing worse than taking Cymbalta was withdrawal from Cymbalta. Added to all the side effects I was already having, I very much wanted to cut myself, and got as far as sitting down with a blade, but instead I bit myself on the hand as hard as I could stand. I think I also punched myself in the thigh that same day, but it's all sort of hazy. The first day off Cymbalta, I hallucinated, felt like my arms were really far away from the rest of my body, dissociated for most of the day, and in general, thought I was going to have to call for an ambulance. A benzo would've really helped, but I didn't have a pdoc yet at the time; I had to wait three weeks and let me tell you, those were three of the most hellish weeks of my life, including feeling very much like I was having a mixed episode. Out of desperation, I took diphenhydramine because it helped the vertigo and the sleepy feeling sort of passed for "calmer." It took at least three weeks for the withdrawal symptoms to calm down to a dull roar. When I saw my new pdoc, I was still agitated."

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Your doctor is your worst enemy. Welbutrin is an SNRI. It blocks the metabolites in the liver that metablilze seretonin and noepinephrin. Switching to celexa, which is an SNRI is not going to help you. Doctors just have no clue as to what they are doing. You go to them with a problem, they consult ther PDR, and hand out some drugs that the pretty little pharma rep gave to them. They will give you something to destroy your brain, then give you a benzo like xanax, to combat anxiety. You cannot sleep, you are always on edge, you end up with some sort of psycological "disorder" (manufactured by the drug companies), and you are left a buned out shell of what you used to be. They tried to give my mother-in-law prozac because she was sad when her father was dying of cancer, and she was starting to go through menopause. I SCREAMED. This lady didn't need prozac, or any other mind altering drugs. She needed to reduce her stress.

I told her to take topical progesterone, and she turned around just fine.

Fact: Doctors don't know what ssri's do to the brain

Fact: There is no evidence of a lack of neuro transmitters.

Fact: There is no way of measuring the level of seretonin in the brain...

I pray for anyone in distress anywhere, and God bless and help those whose lives were destroyed by doctors who dished out meds that they know nothing about.

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WITHDRAWAL

did anyone else get tapered off zoloft from a doctor but still having withdrawal?

this is how my doctor did it and I am still trying to understand why it was just down to 50mg and not less after a while: starting with my 100 mg

week 1- 50 mg every day
week 2 and 3 50 mg every other day
week 4 50 mg every two days
week 5 50 mg every three days
week 6 off (on this week now)

I took my last on sunday and it's now Wednesday. last night I could not sleep, I felt very cold and I was shivering and had interrupted sleep and then got too hot all over like I was burning. I've had the brain zaps all along on the days I didn't take it and some of the shivering and feeling a little dizzy too , very restless sleep on and off for these last few weeks. also some irritability, and very depressed and hopeless feelings and anger, some crying spells for no reason. I don't want to call the doctor because obviously they don't know what they are doing or I wouldn't have withdrawl symptoms at all.

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My daughter began having petit mal seizures. Coincidentally, she was just recently placed on zoloft. I am sure it was only a coincidence, right? What did zoloft do to you?

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YES, ZOLOFT IS EVIL. IT RUINED MY LIFE. IT MADE ME ACT TOTALLY OUT OF CHARACTER AND I MAIMED MYSELF IN AN INDESCRIBABLE WAY.

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Zoloft destroyed my life, and my Dr. and therapist stood by and watched it all happen right before their eyes, it was like I was a project for them. I am sorry to those I affected during that time, I regret it everyday.

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8th May 2012, 17:31

Testosrerone levels are affected and need to be monitored and adjusted after stopping meds. That's one of the bad side effect that I encountered!

I am so glad you mentioned this. My husband, who has had severe depression almost his entire adult life, has really struggled with all of this, especially the last couple years. we have had some particularly difficult challenges in life as of lately, and his ability to cope is ZERO. He has withdrawn from the family, from life, and it is a miracle that he is still able to do his job at work. This winter was the worst, and our marriage has suffered from the combination of his depressive state, and the "fallout" of all his medications, that vary from combination of antidepressants,sleep meds, benadryl, etc. Then he found out that his testosterone was extremely low, and was put on intravenous testosterone. He has had a great turnaround. He has gained weight back, has energy, his brain works (kind -of, but getting there). He still has some emotional issues (but don't we all) and I feel that he most likely has some permanent neurological/phychological damage, but finding about the testosterone being low, was a huge save for us.

Now, to pinpoint the cause of the EPIDEMIC low testosterone problems in the world. Some say plastics, I say combination of millions of TOXINS we are exposed to every day, from every angle.

Another not talked about epidemic is Lyme, and one main symptom of Neurological Lyme disease is depression and anxiety. That can be the ONLY symptom of lyme that you have, but they have the testing set up so there are 65% false negatives. This IS by design people. We are all sick, because that is how they want us. Sick, depressed, exhausted people can't fight back. Thats why they haven't just created a mass genocide, because dead people don't make them any money. It is a win/win for them.

Maia Gabrial

8th May 2012, 18:30

I truly feel for you, avid. I was a total ZOMBIE when I was on them. Not even the murder of my roommate's hubby aroused an emotion out of me.... I wasn't on them very long, but when I realized what was happening to me, I took myself off of them. Believe me the VA shrinks didn't like that. I told them point blank that I was the one responsible for myself, not them.

Speaking of zombies.... I found it hard to take the CDC seriously when they mentioned zombie attacks on their website.... Has anyone ever wondered how they were going to pull off making humans into those creatures? People don't have to LOOK like the zombies from movies and video games - just act like them. I know 2 people who have been on psychotropic drugs (one being effexor) for many years now. When they run out of their meds, they get suicidal AND homicidal!
If you see where I'm going with this.... It's not only a matter of putting people ON psychotic inducing drugs, like that Army sergeant in Afghanistan, but taking people off them who depend on them to function normally is just as bad.... IMO none of this is an accident....

But you had the courage to take back your life by getting away from the antidepressants. You did the right thing. Keep looking for ways to rebuild yourself....

avid

8th May 2012, 19:01

I am keeping busy - looking after ageing parents by travelling long distances to resolve this, and gardening furiously. Making a point in going out to rectify my negligence of the world, and scrubbing the inside of my house, as well as that of my old folks. I am still really reclusive, but have forced myself to meet up with old friends for an hour last week.
Enjoyed the break! This must seem so stupid to most of you, but it's like pulling boots out of quicksand. Slowly and carefully getting life back.... Thanks to everyone for your support - and my best wishes and love to all those in similar situations - we CAN get our lives back.
Avid:grouphug:

the_vast_mystery

8th May 2012, 20:03

Glad to see someone finally post this, I can sympathize. I don't really know if there was any permanent damage done in my case since I was put on anti-depressants at age 7 after I had a seizure due to stress related to school (bad situations we'll say.) I was on a variety of SSRIs (even took Ritalin for a while) until I was 17, so I've got ten years of this stuff in my system from before I even really had formed a personality. In my own case the SSRIs just made me worse, it made my emotional response to situations worse (constant extreme responses, suicidal ideation, basically made me 2x-3x as negatively responsive to the world as I had been before), gave me periodic blank-outs or other memory issues which would cause me to quickly forget certain things even if they were important and prevented me from being able to maintain internal schedules properly, that's before I even get into the hilariously awful problems that sprang up when I hit puberty(Zoloft on that one)...LOL. It might be why I'm having adjustment problems now due to the shift, I have no real firm base of "This is who I am!" to stand on to even say I had changed drastically from "how I was" as I really don't have any real memories of what I'd consider an authentically happy me existing. Just the me who was being stuffed full of pills and told to force a smile anyway and try their best to be likeable so that people would treat him nicely.