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Bill Ryan
20th July 2010, 21:23
Hi, Folks:

Opening a new thread, inspired by this interesting image below - newly discovered in Norway. No-one has the faintest clue what it is.

My suggestion for this thread: please post pictures of anomalies in rock. Something I've always been interested in... Michael Cremo has a collection in the last chapter of his amazing book FORBIDDEN ARCHAEOLOGY. This is also the kind of thing Charles Fort used to collect... gold chains found in lumps of coal... etc. Let's put together a virtual exhibition here.

http://mre.no/89550.o2.html


http://www.mre.no/imageRepository/00/00/08/93/92/89392_549x331.jpg

MariaDine
20th July 2010, 21:28
Google translation....the «best possible» ...

Star hole goes through solid rock and it seems to keep the same shape the whole way. Hole 6 cm in diameter.

During efforts to pick off the mountain Friday, was a remarkable hole in the denuded Vike cape. Hole looks like a sick star and assume going into solid rock. Approximately four feet of the hole is denuded, but it continues almost horizontally into the mountain.




Broke the driver Ole Gunnar Krøvel marked hole during construction work at the Chiropractic Center on Friday. Last time the company KA Aurstad been digging. Friday was a lot of loose masses removed and one had come down on solid rock. Hole has passed through the mountain masses Krøvel are removed in about four meters in length, and continues through the mountains parallel to the waterfront in north-western direction, and star hole halls slightly downwards.

Krøvel've never seen something similar in its over 30-year career with plant operations.

Kjell Arne Aurstad, in KA Aurstad, could also not give any satisfactory explanation of what has made the hole, but says that it is common to run into tears and holrom at the tunnel construction.



Curiosity

County Geologist in mid-Norway, Einar Anda, victory to More that he can not give any satisfactory explanation for the ill assume hole.

After seeing the photo Møre has taken, the first thing that strikes him that hole in some way can be drilled with an impact drill. But, having heard how the hole is horizontally into the mountain, which has been covered by clay right up to today, he has difficulty explaining the star hole.

No county geologist will take photos on to the Geological Survey (NGU) to the right if they have something forklaringing it.



Do not bring stjernehol

Tender has been in contact with several professionals who drive drilling in rock, none of them has ever heard or seen anything similar.


Star hole can be seen


Two of the blocks that are loose dick, located in north-eastern edge of the parking lot at the Chiropractic Center on Vike cape in Volda.Det is fully possible to see that special star-hole that goes through these stone blocks.

Bill Ryan
20th July 2010, 21:32
No county geologist will take photos on to the Geological Survey (NGU) to the right if they have something forklaringing it.

Quite right, too! :)

Arpheus
20th July 2010, 22:14
That s some fascinating stuff !

Bill Ryan
22nd July 2010, 21:40
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A whole bunch more - from this page:

http://paranormal.about.com/od/ancientanomalies/a/Pieces-Out-Of-Time.htm


* "Spark plug" in a geode. In 1961, the owners of a gift shop in Olancha, Calif. found a fossil-encrusted geode in the Coso Mountains. When one of the owners cut the geode in half with a diamond saw, however, he found an object inside that was obviously artificial. (http://paranormal.about.com/od/ancientanomalies/ig/Most-Puzzling-Ancient-Artifact/The-Coso-Artifact.htm)




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The object had a metal core surrounded by layers of a ceramic-like material and a hexagonal wooden sleeve. When X-rayed, the object seemed to resemble a modern spark plug or some other electronic component. Yet it had been completely encased in a geode that was covered with fossils estimated to be 500,000 years old.

* Very old nail. In 1851, The Illinois Springfield Republican reported that a businessman named Hiram de Witt found a fist-sized chunk of auriferous quartz while on a trip to California. When it accidentally slipped from his hands, it split open, and out fell a cut-iron nail. The quartz was about 1 million years old.

* Gold thread among the rock. The Times of London reported in 1844 that workmen quarrying stone near the River Tweed in Scotland found a piece of gold thread embedded in the rock eight feet below ground level.

* Chain in coal. In 1891, Mrs. S. W. Culp, of Morrisonville, Ill. was fragmenting coal into smaller pieces for her kitchen stove when she noticed a chain stuck in the coal. The chain measured about 10 inches long and was later found to be made of eight-carat gold, and described as being "of antique and quaint workmanship." According to the Morrisonville Times of June 11, investigators concluded that the chain had not simply been accidentally dropped in with the coal, since some of the coal still clung to the chain, while the part that had separated from it still bore the impression of where the chain had been encased.

* Ancient modern tools. While quarrying limestone in 1786, workers came to a bed of sand about 50 feet below ground level. In the layer of sand, however, they found the stumps of stone pillars and fragments of half-worked rock. Digging further, they found coins, the petrified wooden handles of hammers, and pieces of other petrified wooden tools. The sand in which the discovery was made was beneath a layer of limestone dated at 300 million years old.

* Mysterious vase. In June, 1851, Scientific American reprinted a report from the Boston Transcript about how a metallic vase, found in two parts, was dynamited out of solid rock 15 feet below the surface in Dorchester, Mass. The bell-shaped vase, measuring 4-1/2 inches high and 6-1/2 inches at the base, was composed of a zinc and silver alloy. On the sides were figures of flowers in bouquet arrangements, inlaid with pure silver. The estimated age of the rock out of which it came: 100,000 years.




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* Too-old screw. In 1865, a two-inch metal screw was discovered in a piece of feldspar unearthed from the Abbey Mine in Treasure City, Nev. The screw had long ago oxidized, but its form - particularly the shape of its threads - could be clearly seen in the feldspar. The stone was calculated to be 21 million years in age.

* Ancient nanotechnology. In 1991-1993, gold prospectors on the Narada river on the eastern side of the Ural mountains in Russia found unusual, mostly spiral-shaped objects, the smallest measuring about 1/10,000th of an inch! The objects are composed of copper and the rare metals tungsten and molybdenum. Tests showed the objects to be between 20,000 and 318,000 years old.

Arpheus
22nd July 2010, 21:44
Hey bill are those quotes form the book the work of charles forte?

Ammit
22nd July 2010, 21:53
This is a facinating thread, just wish I had some things to add..

000
22nd July 2010, 22:21
Anomalies blow my mind, what a wonderful thread. If I come across anything I will post it here. Reading The Complete Books of Charles Fort at the moment and I am sure there is bound to be some material in there.

Bill Ryan
22nd July 2010, 23:09
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More from this page: (http://paranormal.about.com/od/ancientanomalies/ig/Most-Puzzling-Ancient-Artifact/Out-of-Place-Metal-Objects.htm)

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Humans were not even around 65 million years ago, never mind people who could work metal. So then how does science explain semi-ovoid metallic tubes dug out of 65-million-year-old Cretaceous chalk in France?

In 1885, a block of coal was broken open to find a metal cube obviously worked by intelligent hands. In 1912, employees at an electric plant broke apart a large chunk of coal out of which fell an iron pot!

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A nail was found embedded in a sandstone block from the Mesozoic Era. And there are many, many more such anomalies. (http://paranormal.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=paranormal&cdn=newsissues&tm=16&f=10&tt=33&bt=0&bts=0&zu=http%3A//www.rae.org/ch05tud.html)

Bill Ryan
22nd July 2010, 23:17
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More still - from this page: (http://paranormal.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=paranormal&cdn=newsissues&tm=16&f=10&tt=33&bt=0&bts=0&zu=http%3A//www.rae.org/ch05tud.html) :)


Odd Things in Wrong Places.

As man digs and scrapes and drills into the mysterious earth, many surprising finds are made. It follows that mining and farming have been fruitful sources of curious finds in the past. We can feel strong regrets that as both occupations have become more and more mechanized, fewer and fewer finds of value for scientific study will occur. The following interesting items make two important points. If conventional dating is followed, ancient man seems to be far more ancient than he should be. In fact, he must have been thriving before he is supposed to have evolved. Second, ancient man was a very sophisticated person. There is no indication that his brain gradually evolved. Both of these conclusions, obviously, are completely opposite to evolutionary theory.

One of the most prodigious lava flow in the history of the world occurred in the Pacific Northwest. The lava spread over an estimated 200,000 square miles in depths up to 5,000 feet. In 1972, a competent geologist stated that the eruptions took place a mere fifteen million years ago. Much of Washington, Oregon, Idaho, and portions of neighboring states, was covered. The immense age of the deposit can easily be imagined by the fact that the Snake River has cut canyons through the deposit to depths of up to 3000 feet.

Still, there are several curious things about this lava flow. Many competent observers have commented on the remarkable freshness of the deposit, as though the eruptions took place in very recent times. A startling find was made in 1889 near Nampa, Idaho. While workers were boring an artesian well, a small figurine of baked clay was extracted from a depth of 320 feet. Above the figurine, the drill, inside a 6-inch tubing, had cut through fifteen feet of basalt lava and many other strata. The find has never been challenged except to say that it was impossible. The conclusion is unmistakable. Before the basalt flowed, sophisticated humans lived in the area (Velikovsky, 1955, p.87; Pensee , May 1972, 2:2, p.18). Ancient men lived in California. They worked the hardest stones, fabricated perfect granite mortars and dishes, used a circular, skillet-like vessel made of lava, hard as iron, which had three legs and a spout, made polished stone axes with perfect holes drilled in them for a handle, and fashioned ladles, disks or quoits. They were able to bore into the bowels of mountains for gold and silver.

One ancient shaft was drilled 210 feet down into solid rock. An altar for worship was found there. Other finds include the following: a mortar for grinding gold ore at a depth of 300 feet in a mining tunnel, a mortar and pestle weighing 30 pounds, beads, perforated stones, a 40-pound oval granite dish. One human skull was found at a depth of 130 feet under five beds of lava and tufa separated by layers of gravel. Man came before the lava flowed, and deep canyons have been cut by rivers since the lava spread. An amazing number of stone relics have been found. The finding are almost always in gold-bearing rock or gravels (Victoria Institute , 1879, 15:193-198).

A California newspaper reported the find of an elaborately carved rock and other worked stones weighing up to 800 pounds which had been found in hydraulic operations hundreds of feet underground. The original site was an ancient river bed dated long before the last Ice Age (Edward, 1964, p.109).

Nothing describes what has been discovered in California quite as well as Job 28 (TEV). Similar locations have been studied in many parts of the world. Read this detailed and sophisticated memory of what mining in ancient times was like.

Far from where anyone lives or human feet ever travel, men dig the shafts of mines. There they work in loneliness, clinging to ropes in the pits. There are mines where silver is dug. There are places where gold is refined. Men dig iron out of the ground and melt copper out of the stones. Men explore the deepest darkness. They search the depths of the earth and dig for rocks in the darkness. Food grows out of the earth, but underneath the same earth all is torn up and crushed. The stones of the earth contain sapphires, and the dust contains gold. No hawk sees the roads to the mines, and no vulture ever flies over them. No lion or other fierce beast ever travels those lonely roads. Men dig the hardest rocks, dig mountains away at their base. As they tunnel through the rock, they discover precious stones. They dig to the sources of rivers and bring to light what is hidden. The value of wisdom is more than coral, or crystal, or rubies, or the finest topaz and the purest gold.

In the museum at Moses Lake, Washington, are some very crude scrapers on exhibit which were found under a glacial morain. This would appear to date man in Washington to a time before the Pleistocene epoch, which scientists are reluctant to do. A similar discovery was made near Sudbury, Ontario, Canada. Crude choppers and scrapers of quartzite were found deep in the earth and had been tumbled and mixed in glacial till. Again this is evidence that man lived there before the glacial advance. Scientists do not want to put man in America that long ago (Folsom, 1971, p.70; p.184). Such finds are no problem for creationists who see no conflict for such finds within a biblical time framework.

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A strange account comes from the little village of Plateau City, Colorado, a short distance east of Grand Junction. A resident was digging a cellar in 1936. At a depth of ten feet he found paved tile laid in some kind of mortar, different from any other construction in the valley. While the tiles are dated anywhere from 20,000 to 80,000 years old, they lie in a Miocene formation, which could make it up to 25,000,000 years old by conventional dating (Edward, 1962, p.100-101).

In 1871 near Chillicothe, Illinois, well drillers brought up a bronze coin from a depth of 114 feet. This remarkable discovery was described in the Proceedings of the American Philosophic Society . This is additional evidence that man had been present there. Rapid change of the terrain is also indicated (Edwards, 1962, p.101).

Heizer notes a number of impossibilities according to commonly accepted geological dating: a hyena tooth sawed by a flint before it became fossilized, cutting operations on the fossilized bone of an extinct rhinoceros and on other animals at a site near Paris, and evidence of the use of a sharp tool on the horn of fossilized rhino remains in Ireland. Under the surface of the North Sea the trunk of an oak was removed from a long submerged forest. The trunk showed the marks of a hatchet on it. (Heizer, 1962, p.107-114).

Should "age" depend on where you find it?

Conventional theory has early hunters migrating from Asia to America. One of the best known early projectile points is the Folsom point, and the identical pattern is found both in China and over much of America. It is of particular interest that this point is dated as early as 10,000 B.C. in America, but no earlier than 2000 B.C. in China (Mertz, 1972, p.99). Theory, however, requires the points in China to be older.

Conventional dating places the formation of many coal deposits at about 300,000,000 years ago. Other coal formation took place in Tertiary times. Man, of course, according to evolutionary theory did not 'emerge' until several million years ago. From time to time, some very odd things have been reported in coal. Modern methods of coal mining make other similar finds unlikely today. The following reports have stirred considerable question and debate:

In 1885 at a foundry belonging to Isidor Braun of Vocklabruck, Austria, a block of coal was broken up. Out of it fell a small iron or steel cube with a deep incision around it and with the edges rounded on two faces. Some who examined it concluded that only human hands could have made the object. The son of the owner later took it to the Linz Museum in Austria, but later it was lost. A cast of the cube, however, is still kept by the museum.

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The debate was never closed. One authority in 1886 held it to be an iron meteorite. Unfortunately there is no longer a way to verify that the object was actually encased in brown coal. Some hold that it is merely a cast iron object which may have originated in the foundry where it was discovered (Thomas, 1971, p.28-29).

In 1912, some coal mined near Wilburton, Oklahoma, revealed a mystery which has still not been solved. Two employees of the Municipal Electric Plant, Thomas, Oklahoma, came upon a solid chunk of coal too large for the furnace. They broke it up with a sledge. An iron pot fell from the center where it had left an impression or mold in the piece of coal. An affidavit was made out by the two witnesses, and the pot was photographed. Many persons examined this strange object.

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After the exhibitor died, the pot was disposed of in some way and is now lost.

The proceedings of a society of antiquities, Scotland, reported a similar strange discovery. An iron instrument had been found in the heart of a piece of coal from a mine in Scotland. The instrument was considered to be modern, but there was no sign of boring in the piece of coal.

Some years ago Henry Morris reported that he had interviewed a coal miner in West Virginia who had excavated a perfectly formed human leg turned into coal. Years before in the same general area another party of miners unearthed a well-constructed concrete building. Not enough information exists to evaluate these supposed finds (CRSQ , 1970, 7:4, p.201; 1968, 5:4, p.147; Fort, 1941, p.127-128).

In the collection of the Freiberg Mining Academy, Germany, was an object supposed to be a fossilized human skull in brown coal, first described in 1842, before Darwin's book on the origin of species. The specific source of the 'skull' is unknown. While the object is frequently labeled as a fake, the early date of its description is in its favor. A scientist in Germany referred to it as a puzzling human skull a few decades ago. The matter is still an open question, but the problem is that it was found in a formation too old for it by conventional dating assumptions (CRSQ , 1968, 5:4, p.132).

Other strange things have been reported found in rocks. For example, a nail was reported by David Brewster in a sandstone block from the Mesozoic Era. Another report indicates that it was discovered in Old Red Sandstone of Devonian age. In a report of the British Association, 1845-1851, it was stated that a nail was found in a block of stone from the Kingoodie Quarry, Scotland. The block was nine inches thick and came from below the surface. The point of the nail projected into some till and was quite eaten with rust, but the last inch, including the head, was embedded in the stone (Charroux, 1970, p.181); Fort, 1941, p.131).

Workmen quarrying rock near Tweed below Rutherford Mills discovered a gold thread embedded in stone at a depth of eight feet. A piece of this object was sent to the office of the Kelso Chronicle in that district (Fort, 1941, p.130).

A report was carried in Scientific American that in June, 1851, workmen were blasting near Dorchester, Massachusetts. Cast out from a bed of solid rock was a bell-shaped metal vessel. A photo of the vessel, with inlaid floral designs in silver, showed a remarkably high degree of craftsmanship (Fort, 1941, p.128).

In the sixteenth century, Spanish conquistadors came across an iron nail about six inches long solidly encrusted in rock in a Peruvian mine. The rock was estimated to be tens of thousands of years old. Iron was unknown to the Indians there. The Spanish Viceroy kept the mysterious nail in his study as a souvenir, and the account of this find was recorded by letter in the Madrid Archives, 1572. Another odd report in the London Times , 1851, stated that Hiram de Witt found a piece of gold-bearing quartz in California. When it was accidentally dropped, an iron nail with a perfect head was found inside (Thomas, 1971, p.29).

Many of these curious reports cannot be verified to our satisfaction today. The reports seem to this observer, however, to be too varied and widespread to be nothing but hoaxes. In this section again, we see many reasons to respect the sophistication of men who lived long ago. The concept of a young earth here too fits well with the kind of finds that have been made.

East Sun
22nd July 2010, 23:34
It may be true that, 'there is nothing new under the Sun' but I love to hear about things that are so unusual that only a few will believe. And it makes my mind try to fit puzzle pieces together to make sense of what all this could mean.
If I read this info. in a magazine I just would not give it any credibility. Thanks Bill.

jimmer
23rd July 2010, 17:57
there's not much documentation here, but what a list of unearthed anomalies!

to avoid terminal eye strain, I'd let your computer read this to you.

and I think we've discovered what the official term for embedded anomalies is: OOPARTS (Out Of Place Artifacts).
go google crazy. lots of embedded, out of place anomalies are out there to catalog.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ6qftmn6kY

I took one of these reports (1936) that provided enough information for a google and found this:

http://paleo.cc/paluxy/paluxy.htm


Embedded Anomalies
Evidence of Civilization Before the Accepted Creation Timeline
By
Patrick Cooke

From ancient geological strata comes what have been labeled OOPARTS, or Out Of Place Artifacts. These are what appear to be recently produced items and imprints found in natural mineral formations millions of years old. Conservative historians and archaeologists, who hold to the concept of linear cultural development, point to the ancient Middle East as the home of the very first metal production. Here, they claim, man began to melt and shape copper, iron, gold, and silver only 8,000 years ago.

1572 From the Archives of Madrid a letter dated 1572, comes the account of the Spanish Viceroy in Peru and a strange artifact, which came into his possession. A perfect six-inch nail was later presented to the Viceroy as a souvenir, who had it thoroughly examined, and verified it was found in rock dated to 75,000 to 100,000 years in age.

1820 From The American Journal of Science and Arts, 1820 comes the account of an ancient tool discovery. At a quarry near Aixen-Provence, France, in 1788, 40 or 50 feet below ground in a layer of limestone were found coins, petrified wooden handles of hammers, pieces of other petrified wooden tools, and a quarrymen's board. The limestone was 300 million years old.

1822 The American Journal of Science from 1822, north of Pittsburgh an unusually flat rectangular surface, 3 feet long and varying from 5 to 6 inches wide was found. On this flat surface were row after row of evenly spaced, perfect diamond shapes, each with an oblique, raised band across its center. The pattern is too precise to be natural, the diamond shapes too square to be designed by anything but an intelligent hand. In fragments of the impressed rock, were found fossils of primitive jointed plants, dating the find to the Devonian era, 400 million years ago.

1822 The American Journal of Science, 1822 reported a number of man track impressions on an outcrop of grayish-blue crinoidal limestone along the west bank of the Mississippi for 3 miles just south of St. Louis. The foot lengths were 10 1/2 inches wide.

1826 In a well dug near the Ohio River in north Cincinnati at a level 94 feet down, a buried tree stump was found which showed the marks of an ax. The marks were deep and well cut, indicating the use of a sharp and durable blade. The ax used was confirmed to have been made of metal when, embedded in the top of the stump, an advanced oxidized wedge of iron was found. The layer in which the stump was found was dated to be between 50,000 and 75,000 years old nearly 10 times the accepted age of the supposed first metal usage.

1829 From the American Journal of Science, an account sent by a correspondent, to Prof. Silliman, of something that was found in a block of marble, taken November 1829, from a quarry, near Philadelphia. The block was cut into slabs. By this process, it is said, was exposed an indentation in the stone, about one and a half inches by five-eighths of an inch. A geometric indentation: in it were two definite-looking raised letters, like 'I U': only difference is that the corners of the 'U' are not rounded, but are right angles. We are told that this block of stone came from a depth of seventy or eighty feet---or that, if acceptable, this lettering was done long ago.

1844 On June 22, 1844, this curious report appeared in the London Times: "A few days ago, as some workmen were employed in quarrying a rock close to the Tweed about a quarter of a mile below Rutherford-mill, a gold thread was discovered embedded in the stone at a depth of eight feet." Dr. A. W. Medd of the British Geological Survey wrote in 1985 that this stone is of Early Carboniferous age between 320 and 360 million years old. Who dropped this gold thread in the ancient fern forests in a distant time when the most advanced life forms on the planet where amphibians and insects?

1845 From a communication by Sir David Brewster, 1845, a nail had been found in a block of stone from Kingoodie Quarry, North Britain. The block in which the nail was found was nine inches thick. The quarry had been worked about twenty years. It consisted of alternate layers of hard stone and a substance called ‘till,’ The point of the nail, quite eaten with rust, projected into some 'till,' upon the surface of the block of stone. The rest of the nail lay upon the surface of the stone to within an inch of the head---that inch of it was embedded in the stone.

1851 In the June 1851 issue of Scientific American, a report was reprinted from the Boston Transcript about a metallic vase dynamited out of solid rock in Dorchester, Massachusetts. The bell-shaped vase was 4 1/2 inches high, 6 1/2 inches at the base, 2 1/2 inches at the top and an eighth of an inch thick. The metal of the vase was composed of an alloy of zinc and a considerable portion of silver. On the sides were six figures of a flower in bouquet arrangements, inlaid with pure silver, and around the lower part a vine, or wreath, also inlaid with silver. The chasing, carving, and inlaying are exquisitely done by the art of some unknown craftsman. This vase was blown out of solid pudding stone from 15 feet below the surface. The estimated age was 100,000 years.

1851 In Whiteside County, Illinois two copper artifacts, a hook, and a ring were brought up during the drilling of a well from a sand stratum 120 feet deep. The stratum was dated at 150,000 years old.

1851 The London Times, December 1851: Hiram De Witt, of Springfield, Mass. dropped a piece of auriferous quartz about the size of a man's fist. It split open and there was found inside a cut-iron nail, slightly corroded and the size of a six-penny nail. It was entirely straight and had a perfect head.'"

1852 Scientific American, June 1852. During blasting work at Dorchester, Massachusetts, in 1851, the broken halves of a bell - shaped vessel were thrown by the force of an explosion from the vessel's resting place within a bed of formerly solid rock. The vase, about 4 1/2 inches high, was made of an unknown metal and embellished with floral inlays of silver - the art of some cunning craftsman.

1853 A horned lizard was found inside a block of stone, in New Mexico, in 1853. The stone was "so solid as to preclude the entrance of the smallest insect". The lizard was sent to the Smithsonian Institute, where it died 2 days later.

1856 The last of the pterodactyls (flying reptiles with leathery wings and long, toothy beaks) died about 100 million years ago, according to established scientific opinion. But in the experience of a number of startled French workmen, the last one died in the winter of 1856 in a partially complete railway tunnel between the St. Dizier and Nancy lines. In the half-light of the tunnel, something monstrous stumbled toward them out of a great boulder of Jurassic limestone they had just split open. It fluttered its wings, croaked, and died at their feet. The creature, whose wingspan was 10 feet 7 inches, had four legs joined by a membrane, like a bat. What should have been feet were long talons, and the mouth was arrayed with sharp teeth. The skin was like black leather, thick and oily. At the nearby town of Gray, the creature was immediately identified by a local student of paleontology as a pterodactyl. The rock stratum in which it had been found was consistent with the period when pterodactyls lived, and the limestone boulder that had imprisoned the winged reptile for millions of years was found to contain a cavity in the form of an exact mold of the creature's body.

1857 Between 1857 and 1866 in gold mines on Table Mountain, northwest of Needles, California were found bones of extinct mastodons, mammoths, bison, tapirs, horses, rhinos, hippos, and camels, all dating from the Pliocene period. Also found among the fossils was a stone disc used for grinding, a large stone bowl, part of a human crania, a stone mortar a complete human skull. It was determined that the items were 12 million years old.

1865 A two-inch metal screw was discovered in a piece of feldspar unearthed from the Abbey Mine in Treasure City, Nevada. The screw had long ago oxidized, but its form, particularly the shape of its threads, could be clearly seen in the feldspar. The stone was calculated to be 21 million years in age.

1865 Excavating for the Hartlepool waterworks in Durham England, in 1865, workmen accidentally freed a living toad from a block of magnesian limestone 25 feet down.

1867 At the Rocky Point Mine, in Gilman, Colorado, at a depth of 400 feet excavators found human bones embedded in a silver vein and a well-tempered copper arrowhead. The vein was dated at 135 million years old.

1867 It is reported that James Parsons, and his two sons, exhumed a slate wall in a coal mine at Hammondville, Ohio, in 1868. It was a large smooth wall, disclosed when a great mass of coal fell away from it, and on its surface, carved in bold relief, were several lines of hieroglyphics.

1869 The Los Angeles News of December 17, 1869 reported a smooth slate wall covered with strange alphabetic writing had been discovered in a coalmine at a depth of 100 feet. The letters were raised and well defined. The coal that had covered the wall bore their distinct impression, which means the letters date to a time when the coal was in a vegetable state and had molded itself against the wall. Each sign was three-quarters of an inch in size, and arranged in rows precisely spaced 3 inches apart. The coal was from the Carboniferous era, well over 200 million years old.

1870 At Lawn Ridge, 20 miles north of Peoria, Illinois, in August of 1870, as a well was being drilled the pump brought up a small metal medallion to the surface. The strange coin / medallion was composed of an unidentified copper alloy, about the size and thickness of a U.S. quarter of that period. It was remarkably uniform in thickness, round, and the edges appeared to have been cut. Researcher William E. Dubois, who presented his investigation of the medallion to the American Philosophical Society, was convinced that the object had in fact passed through a rolling mill, the edges showed clear evidence of the machining. Both sides of the medallion were marked with artwork and hieroglyphs that had somehow been etched in acid, to a remarkable degree of intricacy. One side showed the figure of a woman wearing a crown or headdress; her left arm is raised as if in benediction, and her right arm holds a small child, also crowned. The woman appears to be speaking. On the opposite side is another central figure, a crouching animal wth long, pointed ears, large eyes and mouth, claw-like arms, and a long tail frayed at the very end. Below and to the left of it is another animal, which bears a strong resemblance to a horse. Around the outer edges of both sides of the coin are undecipherable glyphs - they are of very definite character, and show all the signs of a form of alphabetic writing. The stratum from which the coin was extracted was dated between 100,000 and 150,000 years.

1877 Prospectors near Eureka, Nevada found a human leg bone and kneecap sticking out of solid rock. Doctors examined the remains and determined they were from a very modern-looking human being, and one that stood over 12 feet tall. The rock in which the bones were found was dated geologically to the Jurassic Period, over 185 million years old.

1877 Prospectors near Eureka, Nevada found a human leg bone and kneecap sticking out of solid rock. Doctors examined the remains and determined they were from a very modern-looking human being, and one that stood over 12 feet tall. The rock in which the bones were found was dated geologically to the Jurassic Period, over 185 million years old.

1880 Workmen drilling a well discovered a doll-like figure sometime before 1880 near Marlboro in Stark County, Ohio. The image made of black variegated marble and standing 6 inches tall was unearthed from a depth of 120 feet. The layer in which the doll was found was dated at over 300,000 years.

1880 Near Loch Maree and Victoria Falls, Scotland, the hollow impression that would be left by double bars of iron placed closely together. was discovered. The observation was corroborated years later when micro-specks of iron oxide were taken from the impression cavities. The bands occur high above the falls in an almost totally inaccessible place, where a "structure" would serve little purpose. The sandstone in the impressions show tiny striations, which are really the preserved grain marks of the iron, indicated the metal had been impressed in the primordial sand, before solidification took place. The sandstone in which the bands occur is Cambrian dating to 600 million years old.

1882 Near Carson City, Nevada, a layer of sandstone was found covered with fossilized animal tracks, including those of an extinct mammoth along with several human tracks were also found.

1884 The London Times, June 22, 1884: Workmen quarrying rock, close to Tweed, about a quarter of a mile below Rutherford Mills, discovered a gold thread embedded in the stone as a depth of 8 feet.

1884 Fossilized human tracks were discovered in a rock quarry near Managua, Nicaragua, in a layer containing 16 to 24 feet below the surface, geologically dated as being over 200,000 years of age.

1885 In the fall of 1885, at an iron foundry near Bocklabruck, Upper Austria, in a piece of brown coal that had been mined from the pits at Wolfsegg, near Schwannstadt, a cube-like metal object was found. The composition is iron, carbon, and a small quantity of nickel. The coal dated to the Tertiary Period making it 60 million years old.

1885 The American Antiquarian reported a find east of the town of Berea, Kentucky. Preserved in the layer were the fossilized impressions of several creatures, including two well-preserved prints of a human being. They were described as "good-sized, toes well spread, and very distinctly marked." In 1930 geologists discovered a total of twelve 9 1/2-inch human tracks and portions of others, and confirmed that they had indeed been impressed upon gray Pottsville sandstone dating from the Upper Pennsylvanian period dating them at over 300 million years old. One track had a distance from heel to heel of 18 inches, a giant by any standards.

1885 The American Antiquarian, 1885 gave the account of another find associated with the St. Louis footprints. "A particular set of tracks was described in detail. Directly before the prints of these feet, within a few inches, is a well-impressed and deep mark, having some resemblance to a scroll, or roll of parchment, two feet long by a foot in width." The squared impression was not a natural shape; neither were scratch marks that would have indicated the patch had been carved. Rather, the evidence points to the parchment impression having been made when the rock was still in a plastic state, made at the same time as the footprints. What such a find suggests is that the prints' owners were not only men, but were men with the intelligence to produce some form of paper sheet - and perhaps write upon it. The limestone, in which prints and paper appear, is dated to the Mississippian age dated 345 million years ago.

1885 A well driller discovered a little clay doll that had come from below a 15-foot layer of lava rock, 100 feet of sand, 6 inches of clay, 40 feet of more sand, then 165 feet composed of clay, sand, clay nodules mixed with sand, and coarse sand layers for a total of 320 feet. The small "doll" is composed of half clay and half quartz, and though badly battered by time, the doll's appearance is still distinct. It had a bulbous head, with barely discernible mouth and eyes; broad shoulders; short, thick arms, and long legs, the right leg broken off. There are also faint geometric markings on the figure, which represent either clothing patterns or jewelry. The doll is the image of a person of a high civilization, artistically attired. The layer in which the doll was found was dated at over 300,000 years.

1891 The June 11th Morrisonville Times reported: "A curious find was brought to light by Mrs. S. W. Culp last Tuesday morning. As she was breaking a lump of coal preparatory to putting it in the scuttle, she discovered, as the lump fell apart, embedded in a circular shape a small gold chain about ten inches in length of antique and quaint workmanship.

1891 Near Cleveland, Tennessee a length of wall was discovered which was traced for a thousand feet, on the average 2 feet thick and 8 feet high, with numerous projections spaced along the top every 25 to 30 feet. The wall ran roughly at an angle of 15 to 20 degrees east. The structure continues on beyond the section exposed, in both directions, following the crest of a ridge that extends from the Hiawassee River north of Chattanooga southward, where it dips beneath the Tennessee river. Its position dates it geologically to near the beginning of the Quaternary Period, well over a million years old. The wall is composed of red sandstone blocks constructed in three courses, cemented together with dark red clay mixed with salt, and in numerous places is plastered over with red, slate and yellow clays. Along one stretch of wall, near the northern end a distance of 16 feet, a number of the sandstone block surfaces were covered with the hieroglyphs of a lost language. The letters were arranged in wavy, parallel and diagonal lines, interspersed with small pictures of strange animals, many unidentifiable. There were other symbols, of the sun and crescent moon, which appear to have some astronomical significance. All together, 872 individual characters were discovered.

1896 From the American Anthropologist, 1896 comes the finding of a perfect human imprint in stone near Parkersburg, on the West Virginia side of the Ohio River. The track was 14 1/2 inches long, and was found embedded in stone dated at 150 million years old.

1897 The April 2,1897 edition of the Daily News of Omaha, Nebraska, carried an article titled "Carved Stone Buried in a Mine," which described an object from a mine near Webster City, Iowa. The article stated: "While mining coal today in the Lehigh coal mine, at a depth of 130 feet, one of the miners came upon a piece of rock which puzzles him and he was unable to account for its presence at the bottom of the coal mine. The stone is of a dark grey color and about two feet long, one foot wide and four inches in thickness. Over the surface of the stone, which is very hard, lines are drawn at angles forming perfect diamonds. The center of each diamond is a fairly good face of an old man having a peculiar indentation in the forehead that appears in each of the pictures, all of them being remarkably alike. Of the faces, all but two are looking to the right. Was this stone carved and left behind by a traveler from earth's future?

1908 The most famous man tracks are those on the banks of the Paluxy River, near Glen Rose, Texas. First observed in 1908, the massive number of finds reveals a mixture of man and animal types having lived all at the same time. There are heavy brontosaur tracks, the talon marks of the feared Tyrannosaurus Rex, three-toed tracks of other dinosaurs, and the imprint of a saber-tooth tiger, which was supposed to have lived only a few million years ago, not in the era of the giant lizards. A good number of the human prints are bare, others show signs of moccasins or thin sandals. In one instance the fossil print the impression of the lacing on the moccasin is still visible. Some human tracks show footprints with modern shoe sizes from 7 to 13, others are of children, whose prints are both proportionally smaller. Several however, are 16 inches and many with 21 inch feet and a seven-foot stride. In other words, they were giants. A most remarkable fact is that the human and dinosaur prints cross each other, showing that the two had both crossed when the rock had been mud. The significance of these examples was noted by Dr. A. E. Wilder Smith of the University of Illinois: "One authentic man-track found in the same stratum as one authentic brontosaurus track throws out one hundred years of evolutionary teachings. It is sufficient to bring the whole Darwinist theory down and revolutionize all biology today." The stratum, in which the tracks were found date to the early Cretaceous, between 120 and 130 million years.

1921 In Arkansas, north of Finch a large rock-sculptured head of a man was discovered. It stood about 4 feet high, and the figure had a squared, protruding chin, small, tight-lipped mouth, a short nose, and a furrowed brow and stare accented by two flat "buttons" of inlaid gold for eyes. Two more gold discs ornamented the figure's ears, and a heart-shaped plug of copper was embedded in the chest. A carved hood that draped down the nape, and attached around the neck covered the top of the head. Near the head, and in the same layer, a number of smaller objects; a gold ring, a small coffer made of volcanic pumice (which does not exist in this region), and tiny carvings of men, animals, moons and stars were found. The stone sculpture was discovered in the ten-foot layer of gravel geologically dated at 175,000 years.

1926 November 1926, Mrs. S. W. Culp, of Morrisonville, Illinois, was breaking coal into smaller lumps for her scuttle, one day in 1891, when she noticed a chain in the midst of the coal. When she reached down to pick it up, she saw that the two ends of the chain were firmly embedded in two separate pieces of coal that had clearly been a single lump only moments before. The age of 260 million year was determined for the chunk of coal

1926 In a mineshaft southwest of Billings, Montana, a human tooth was found in an Eocene deposit dated at 30 million years old.

1927 In Fisher Canyon, Pershing County, Nevada, in January, 1927, an imprint from the heel of a shoe which had been pulled up from the balance of the heel by suction, from the mud when the rock was still in a plastic state at the time. The shoe print was in a layer of Triassic limestone dated at 225 million years old. The rock was later examined at the Rockefeller Foundation, and confirmed to indeed be a shoe heel. Microphotographs revealed that the leather had been stitched by a double row of stitches with the twists of the threads being very discernable.

1927 W. W. McCormick of Abilene, Texas, reported his grandfather's account of a stone block wall that was found deep within a coal mine: "In the year 1928, I, Atlas Almon Mathis, was working in coal mine No. 5., located two miles north of Heavener, Oklahoma. This was a shaft mine, and they told us it was two miles deep. The mine was so deep that they let us down into it on an elevator.... They pumped air down to us, it was so deep." One evening, Mathis was blasting coal loose by explosives in "room 24" of this mine. "The next morning," said Mathis, "there were several concrete blocks laying in the room. These blocks were 12-inch cubes and were so smooth and polished on the outside that all six sides could serve as mirrors. Yet they were full of gravel, because I chipped one of them open with my pick, and it was plain concrete inside." Mathis added: "As I started to timber the room up, it caved in; and I barely escaped. When I came back after the cave-in, a solid wall of these polished blocks was left exposed. About 100 to 150 yards farther down our air core, another miner struck this same wall, or one very similar." The coal in the mine was Carboniferous, which would mean the wall was at least 286 million years old. According to Mathis, the mining company officers immediately pulled the men out of the mine and forbade them to speak about what they had seen. Mathis said the Wilburton miners also told of finding "a solid block of silver in the shape of a barrel... with the prints of the staves on it," in an area of coal dating between 280 and 320 million years ago. What advance civilization built this wall?

1934 Members of the Hahn family discovered a rock, sitting loose on a rock ledge beside a waterfall outside London, Texas. The site primarily consists of Cretaceous rock (75 to 100 million years old). Noticing that this weathered rock had wood protruding from it, they cracked it open, exposing the hammer head. To verify that the hammer was made of metal, they cut into one of the beveled sides with a file. The bright metal in the nick is still there, with no detectable corrosion. The unusual metallurgy is 96% iron, 2.6% chlorine and .74% sulfur (no carbon). Density tests indicate casting exceptional quality. The density of the iron in a central, cross-sectional plane shows the interior metal to be very pure, with no bubbles. Modern industry cannot consistently produce iron castings with this quality, as evidenced by test results that show bubbles and density variations that have caused pump and valve bodies to break. The handle eye is partially coalifed with quartz and calcite crystalline inclusions, oval shaped, and roughly 1" x 1/2''.

1936 In Plateau Valley, Colorado, during the excavation for a winter cellar to store vegetables, at a depth of 10 feet a pavement made of tiles, each man-made and five inches square was discovered. The tiles were laid in mortar, the chemical composition of which was different from all materials found in the surrounding area. The pavement was found in the same layer containing the three-toed Miocene horse, dated to 30 million years old.

1948 On November 27, the following statement was made by Frank J. Kenwood in Sulphur Springs, Arkansas. "While I was working in the Municipal Electric Plant in Thomas, Oklahoma in 1912, I came upon a solid chunk of coal which was too large to use. I broke it with a sledge hammer. This iron pot fell from the center leaving the impression mould of the pot in the piece of coal. Jim Stall (an employee of the company) witnessed the breaking of the coal, and saw the pot fall out. I traced the source of the coal, and found that it came from the Wilburton, Oklahoma, Mines. According to Robert O. Fay of the Oklahoma Geological Survey, the Wilburton mine coal is about 312 million years old. What advanced civilization or visitor was creating or using iron pots in our past more than 300 million years ago?

1948 A shoe impression was discovered near Lake Windermere, England and reported in the natural history journal, The Field. The print displayed signs of craft and artistry. Around the edge of both the heel and the foreshoe were circular impressions, which resemble tacking, while in the center of the sole and heel are faint decorations of linear and flower-like designs.

1958 In Tuscany, Italy a human jawbone was found at a depth of 600 feet, in a coal mine encased in a Miocene stratum, geologically dated at 20 million years.

1959 In the Gobi Desert of central Asia in 1959 a fossilized print of a shoe with a ribbed sole was found, in sandstone dated at 15 million years.

1961 In February 1961, east-southeast of Olancha, California. a geode was discovered containing the remains of some form of mechanical device. Beneath the outer layer of hardened clay, pebbles, and fossil inclusions is a hexagonal shaped layer of a substance resembling wood, softer than agate or jasper. This layer forms a casing around a three-quarter inch wide cylinder made of solid white porcelain or ceramic, and in the center of the cylinder is a two-millimeter shaft of bright, brassy metal. The shaft was discovered to be magnetic. Surrounding the ceramic cylinder were rings of copper. Also embedded in the geode were two other man-made items, a nail and a washer. An X-ray examination of the cylinder object enclosed in the fossil-encrusted rock, found further evidence that it was indeed some form of mechanical apparatus. The X-rays revealed that the metallic shaft was corroded at one end, but on the other end terminated in what appeared to be a spring or helix of metal. As a whole, the "Coso artifact" is now believed to be something more than a piece of machinery. The carefully shaped ceramic, metallic shaft and copper components hint at some form of electrical instrument. The closest modern apparatus that researchers have been able to equate it with is a spark plug. The rock in which the instrument was found was dated at 500,000 years old.

1968 In June 1968, in Antelope Springs, Utah a human sandal print fossil was discovered in a Cambrian Wheeler shale formation. The sandal print measured 10 1/4 inches long, pointed in the toes, rounded in the heel, and with a squashed trilobite in the center of the sole. The Utah Geological Survey examined the fossil and found no irregularities or evidence of fakery, determining the print was genuine. The Cambrian shale was dated at over 600 million years old. The fossils in the prints are trilobites, supposed to be among the earliest forms of life on earth.

1968 At Saint-Jean de Livetin, France a quarry revealed unusual metal nodules entombed in an Aptian chalk bed. The nodules were reddish brown, wafer-shaped, and hollowed at the ends, measuring from 3 to 9 centimeters long and 1 to four centimeters wide. Chemical analysis showed a carbon content consistent with modern forging and casting techniques. The beds dated to the Cretaceous Period making them over 120 million years old.

1969 On June 27,1969, workmen cutting into a rock shelf situated on the Broadway Extension of 122nd Street, between Edmond and Oklahoma City, found an inlaid tile floor, found 3 feet below the surface, and covering several thousand square feet. A form of mortar was found between the tiles that were dated at 200,000 years old.

1969 In Tulsa, Oklahoma, 1969 sandstone strata filled with fossil tracks of now extinct creatures and many human tracks, which dated back between 3 and 5 million years.

1973 Southwest of Moab, Utah, two human skeletons were found in formations over 100 million years of age.

1979 Dr. Rex Gilroy, director of the Mount York Natural History Museum of Australia, discovered a giant human impression on Mount Victoria. The track was dated at 200 million years of age.

Bill Ryan
23rd July 2010, 18:24
[ -- an enormous amount of fascinating information -- ]


Thank you...!!

Truthseeker512
23rd July 2010, 18:38
Hi,

Cant remember which state this was found in the US, but its a piece of sandstone with a strange object within in.

This object must have existed on a shoreline, while the material in the rock was still a sediment.
The object must have been very, very strong to retain its shape during burial and lithification.

The material the object was made of has since been replaced by the rocks more stable minerals.

Whatever it is, its very old!

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l4/richie_rich64/23661_830730144949_197813766_49858919_7657931_n.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l4/richie_rich64/23661_830730164909_197813766_49858923_2875517_n.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l4/richie_rich64/23661_830730149939_197813766_49858920_6845258_n.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l4/richie_rich64/23661_830730154929_197813766_49858921_6248415_n.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l4/richie_rich64/23661_830730159919_197813766_49858922_2726953_n.jpg

jimmer
23rd July 2010, 18:43
this looks like a documentary that's right on the beam.
done in 1996, 'The Origin of Man' explores OOPARTS.
see what you think, in 6 youtube parts.

btw: the youtuber who posted the documentary, editorializes his contempt for the
presenter, Charlton Heston, but the actual doc. doesn't seem to be tampered with.
enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wox3SfzBA8

Atlas
28th September 2014, 11:37
In 1885 at a foundry belonging to Isidor Braun of Vocklabruck, Austria, a block of coal was broken up. Out of it fell a small iron or steel cube with a deep incision around it and with the edges rounded on two faces. Some who examined it concluded that only human hands could have made the object. The son of the owner later took it to the Linz Museum in Austria, but later it was lost. A cast of the cube, however, is still kept by the museum.

http://www.rae.org/tud31.gif

The debate was never closed. One authority in 1886 held it to be an iron meteorite. Unfortunately there is no longer a way to verify that the object was actually encased in brown coal. Some hold that it is merely a cast iron object which may have originated in the foundry where it was discovered (Thomas, 1971, p.28-29).
http://www.inspiegabile.com/images/content/gurlt-cube.jpg




1885 In the fall of 1885, at an iron foundry near Bocklabruck, Upper Austria, in a piece of brown coal that had been mined from the pits at Wolfsegg, near Schwannstadt, a cube-like metal object was found. The composition is iron, carbon, and a small quantity of nickel. The coal dated to the Tertiary Period making it 60 million years old.

Nickel or not nickel ? From Wikipedia:

"The object was analysed in 1966–1967 by the Vienna Naturhistorisches Museum using electron beam micro-analysis,[citation needed] which found no traces of nickel, chromium or cobalt in the iron, suggesting that it was not of meteoric origin, while the lack of sulfur indicated that it is not a pyrite.[citation needed]

Because of its low magnesium content, Dr. Gero Kurat of the museum and Dr. Rudolf Grill of the Federal Geological Office in Vienna thought that it might be cast iron, Grill suggesting that similar rough lumps had been used as ballast in early mining machinery.[citation needed]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfsegg_Iron

http://www.inspiegabile.com/gallery/fullsize/salzburg-cube.jpg

Atlas
28th September 2014, 12:45
this interesting image below - newly discovered in Norway. No-one has the faintest clue what it is.

http://mre.no/89550.o2.html

http://www.mre.no/imageRepository/00/00/08/93/92/89392_549x331.jpg

http://www.volda.org/star/hole2.jpg

http://www.volda.org/star/hole3.jpg
http://www.volda.org/star/english.php

I found some more:


Stone with bored holes among the hut circles near Harford Moor Gate, at SX 64432 59336 .....

http://www.dartmoorcam.co.uk/cam/previouswalks/2011-4-28_RedLake/P1020020.JPG

Note the star-shaped hole!

http://www.dartmoorcam.co.uk/cam/previouswalks/2011-4-28_RedLake/P1020021.JPG
(source (http://www.dartmoorcam.co.uk/cam/previouswalks/2011-4-28_RedLake/redlake.htm))


This is the first star chisel hole I've ever seen in a piece of granite at a local quarry.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_2et2tkoKhU/TtLmKYlM-qI/AAAAAAAAA3E/gZ6wkIqEft8/s1600/STAR+DRILL+HOLE+IN+GRANITE

Close-Up

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NlaSKFfpkkw/TtLmptmUrQI/AAAAAAAAA3M/ET1yotLslxc/s1600/STAR+DRILL+CLOSE+UP
(source (http://everypicturetellastorydontit.blogspot.com.au/))




http://www.halfmoonbaymemories.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/notrock.jpeg
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[...] Here's a sample of a rock made from a multi-point drill:

Notice that it is rather rough. They forgot to turn the rotating feature on. So it just sat there for awhile. The inside is not smooth, either.

http://www.aditnow.co.uk/cache/Shap-Pink-Granite-Quarry-User-Album/Shap-Pink-Granite-Quarry-User-Album-001.jpg

Anyway, I could find no examples of rock holes made with 7-point percussive drill bits. Not one. (source (http://www.grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?f=1&i=239026&t=237831&v=f))

Update (March 2008): The origin of the Star-shaped hole in Volda is probably not as mysterious as speculations would have it to be. Several local blacksmiths have recently revealed that star-shaped holes were quite common in the old days. They say that the hole in Volda most likely was drilled in the 1930s, and that there are even more holes similar to the one in Volda at other locations. The holes were created when the worksmen used a six-sided drill head (picture of the old drill-head is shown in newspaper article) to carry out mountain drilling (construction work etc.). However, there are people who question this solution. But, as of now the most likely conclusion is that the hole was made by human workers more than 60 years ago. (source (http://www.skyoye.com/geologypage.html))

Atlas
28th September 2014, 12:58
* Mysterious vase. In June, 1851, Scientific American reprinted a report from the Boston Transcript about how a metallic vase, found in two parts, was dynamited out of solid rock 15 feet below the surface in Dorchester, Mass. The bell-shaped vase, measuring 4-1/2 inches high and 6-1/2 inches at the base, was composed of a zinc and silver alloy. On the sides were figures of flowers in bouquet arrangements, inlaid with pure silver. The estimated age of the rock out of which it came: 100,000 years.




http://0.tqn.com/d/paranormal/1/G/e/vase.jpg

Biagio Catalano argues that the "vase" is actually almost identical, as in both shape and decorations, to an Indian pipe-holder stored at Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj Vastu Sangrahalaya (ex Prince of Wales Museum) of Mumbai.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/Poggiapipe_indiano.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorchester_Pot

Sunny-side-up
28th September 2014, 13:03
Not an artifact as such but evidence of a speeches that is known to make artifacts ;)

http://paranormal.about.com/od/ancientanomalies/ig/Most-Puzzling-Ancient-Artifact/Ancient-Footprint.htm


You could see a human footprint like this today on any beach or patch of mud. But this footprint -- clearly from the anatomy of a modern human being -- is fossilized in stone estimated to be about 290 million years old.

http://paranormal.about.com/od/ancientanomalies/ig/Most-Puzzling-Ancient-Artifact/Shoe-Print-in-Granite.htm


This shoe print fossil was discovered in a seam of coal in Fisher Canyon, Pershing County, Nevada. It is estimated that the age of this coal is a whopping 15 million years old! And lest you think that this is the fossil of some kind of animal whose shape merely resembles a modern shoe, close-up examination of the fossil reveals that traces of a double line of sewed stitches around the perimeter of the shape are clearly visible. It's about a size 13, and the right side of the heel appears to be more worn down than the left.

http://paranormal.about.com/od/ancientanomalies/ig/Most-Puzzling-Ancient-Artifact/Metal-rod-in-stone.htm


How can we explain stone that appears to have formed around a mysterious metal rod?

Found by rock collector Zhilin Wang in the Mazong Mountains of China, the hard black rock has embedded within it a metal rod of unknown origin and purpose. The rod has screw-like threads, suggested that it is a manufactured item, yet the fact that it was in the ground long enough for hard rock to form around it means that it must be millions of years old.

It has even been suggested that the rock is a meteorite and dropped to Earth from space, meaning the artifact could be extraterrestrial in origin.

http://paranormal.about.com/od/ancientanomalies/ig/Most-Puzzling-Ancient-Artifact/The-Fossil-Hammer.htm


The hammer head and partial handle was found near London, Texas by two hikers, Mr. and Mrs. Hahn, in 1936 near the Red Creek when they spotted a piece of wood protruding from a rock. It wasn't until about 1947 that their son broke open the rock, revealing the hammer head inside.

This tool presents a difficult problem for archaeologists: the limestone rock in which it is encased is estimated to be 110-115 million years old. In fact the wooden handle has petrified, like ancient petrified wood, the the hammer head, composed of solid iron, is of relatively recent design.

Classic!

Hervé
28th September 2014, 13:29
In 1885 at a foundry belonging to Isidor Braun of Vocklabruck, Austria, a block of coal was broken up. Out of it fell a small iron or steel cube with a deep incision around it and with the edges rounded on two faces. Some who examined it concluded that only human hands could have made the object. The son of the owner later took it to the Linz Museum in Austria, but later it was lost. A cast of the cube, however, is still kept by the museum.

http://www.rae.org/tud31.gif

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http://www.inspiegabile.com/images/content/gurlt-cube.jpg

[...]

"The object was analysed in 1966–1967 [...]

So... the analysed object was a cast of the original one... which would explain it's cast iron... ???

Atlas
28th September 2014, 13:57
In 1885 at a foundry belonging to Isidor Braun of Vocklabruck, Austria, a block of coal was broken up. Out of it fell a small iron or steel cube with a deep incision around it and with the edges rounded on two faces. Some who examined it concluded that only human hands could have made the object. The son of the owner later took it to the Linz Museum in Austria, but later it was lost. A cast of the cube, however, is still kept by the museum.

http://www.rae.org/tud31.gif

[...]
[...]

"The object was analysed in 1966–1967 [...]

So... the analysed object was a cast of the original one... which would explain it's cast iron... ???

Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfsegg_Iron) says: "it is often stated as a fact in paranormal literature that it disappeared without trace in 1910, from the Salzburg Museum.[4][5] In fact, as mentioned above, it is at the Heimathaus Museum in Vöcklabruck, Austria, which is where the above photo was taken."

Atlas
28th September 2014, 14:07
http://0.tqn.com/y/paranormal/1/S/5/A/2/fossil-hammer.jpg


The hammer head and partial handle was found near London, Texas by two hikers, Mr. and Mrs. Hahn, in 1936 near the Red Creek when they spotted a piece of wood protruding from a rock. It wasn't until about 1947 that their son broke open the rock, revealing the hammer head inside.

This tool presents a difficult problem for archaeologists: the limestone rock in which it is encased is estimated to be 110-115 million years old. In fact the wooden handle has petrified, like ancient petrified wood, the the hammer head, composed of solid iron, is of relatively recent design.


As with all extraordinary claims, the burden of proof is on those making the claims, not on those questioning them. Despite some creationist assertions that the hammer is a dramatic pre-Flood relic, no clear evidence linking the hammer to any ancient formation has been presented. Moreover, the hammer's artistic style and the condition of the handle suggest a historically recent age. It may well have been dropped by a local worker within the last few hundred years, after which dissolved sediment hardened into a concretion around it. Unless Baugh or others can provide rigorous evidence that the hammer was once naturally situated in a pre-Quaternary stratum, it remains merely a curiosity, not a reliable out-of-place artifact.

http://paleo.cc/paluxy/hammer.htm

Atlas
28th September 2014, 15:08
* "Spark plug" in a geode. In 1961, the owners of a gift shop in Olancha, Calif. found a fossil-encrusted geode in the Coso Mountains. When one of the owners cut the geode in half with a diamond saw, however, he found an object inside that was obviously artificial. (http://paranormal.about.com/od/ancientanomalies/ig/Most-Puzzling-Ancient-Artifact/The-Coso-Artifact.htm)




http://0.tqn.com/d/paranormal/1/0/0/G/coso_lg.jpg

The object had a metal core surrounded by layers of a ceramic-like material and a hexagonal wooden sleeve. When X-rayed, the object seemed to resemble a modern spark plug or some other electronic component. Yet it had been completely encased in a geode that was covered with fossils estimated to be 500,000 years old.

[...] the object was not a geode. Geodes have very precise characteristics – a thin outer shell of dense chalcedonic silica, and a layer of quartz crystals internally – which the ‘Coso Artifact’ does not possess. The material was described by one of the discoverers as hardened clay that had picked up pebbles, a nail and a washer, with a hardness of 3 on the Mohs scale, much softer than a geode. (source (http://www.badarchaeology.com/?page_id=223))

http://i0.wp.com/www.badarchaeology.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/coso_artifact2.jpg

[...] quote form the article, “The Coso Artifact: Mystery From the Depths of Time?” by Pierre Stromberg and Paul Heinrich:


To help us to learn more about spark-plug technology of a century ago, we enlisted the help of the Spark Plug Collectors of America (SPCA). We sent letters to four different spark plug collectors describing the Coso Artifact, including Calais’s X-rays of the object in question. We expected the SPCA to provide some vague hints or no information at all about the artifact. The actual answers were stunning.

On September 9, 1999, Chad Windham, President of the SPCA, called Pierre Stromberg. Windham initially suspected that Stromberg was a fellow spark plug collector, writing incognito, with the motive of hoaxing him. His fears were compounded by the fact that there is an actual line of spark plugs named “Stromberg”. Though Stromberg repeatedly assured Windham that his intentions were purely for research, he was puzzled why Windham was so suspicious and asked him to explain. Windham replied that it was so obvious to him that the artifact was a contemporary spark plug, the letter had to be a hoax. “I knew what it was the moment I saw the X-rays,” Windham wrote.

Stromberg asked Windham if he could identify the particular make of the spark plug. Windham replied he was certain that it was a 1920s-era Champion spark plug. Later, Windham sent 2 identical spark plugs for comparison. Ten days after Windham’s telephone call, Bill Bond, founder of the SPCA and curator of a private museum of spark plugs containing more than 2000 specimens, called Stromberg. Bond said he thought he knew the identity of the Coso Artifact: “A 1920s Champion spark plug.” Spark plug collectors Mike Healy and Jeff Bartheld (Vice President of the SPCA) also concurred with Bond’s and Windham’s assessment about the spark plug. To date, there has been no dissent among the spark plug collectors as to the identity of the Coso Artifact.
http://archyfantasies.com/2012/07/09/the-10-most-not-so-puzzling-ancient-artifacts-the-coso-artifact/

13th Warrior
28th September 2014, 18:56
The most logical explanation is that these objects had been teleported/or similar into their mysterious locations. As far as the so called "star" shaped holes in rock; they look to me to have been created with a splined shaft or similar...I believe the Egyptians where said to have bored holes in stone with copper tubes...

conk
29th September 2014, 17:16
The most logical explanation is that these objects had been teleported/or similar into their mysterious locations. As far as the so called "star" shaped holes in rock; they look to me to have been created with a splined shaft or similar...I believe the Egyptians where said to have bored holes in stone with copper tubes... This was the conclusion of David Wilcox in his Source Field Investigations book. The work of many others led him to believe that objects move through space-time and time-space and occasionally 'land' in the past. His prelude to the conclusion is pretty convincing.

One of my favorites from his book was the stories about toads and reptiles found alive inside extremely old rock. There are multiple well sourced stories about this phenomenon. The toads jump and move, but die soon thereafter. They leave a space in the rock like someone was making a mold of the animal. Exact shape of the toad, as if it was transported and deposited in the middle of the rock.

Hervé
7th October 2014, 11:09
Ancient nanostructures found in Ural mountains are out of place and time (http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/science/russias-ancient-nanostructures-23926.html)

Leonardo Vinti
Epoch Times (http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/science/russias-ancient-nanostructures-23926.html)
Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:02 CEST


http://www.sott.net/image/s10/209786/large/Ancient_nanostructures_in_Ural.jpg (http://www.sott.net/image/s10/209786/full/Ancient_nanostructures_in_Ural.jpg)


An Oopart (out of place artifact) is a term applied to dozens of prehistoric objects found in various places around the world that, given their level of technology, are completely at odds with their determined age based on physical, chemical, and/or geological evidence. Ooparts often are frustrating to conventional scientists and a delight to adventurous investigators and individuals interested in alternative scientific theories.

In 1991, the appearance of extremely tiny, coil-shaped artifacts found near the banks of Russia's Kozhim, Narada, and Balbanyu rivers brought about a debate that has continued to this day. These mysterious and minuscule structures suggest that there may have been a culture capable of developing nanotechnology 300,000 years ago.

These manufactured coils were initially discovered during geological research associated with the extraction of gold in the Ural mountains. These pieces include coils, spirals, shafts, and other unidentified components.


http://www.sott.net/image/s10/209787/large/Russia_Ural_Mountains.jpg (http://www.sott.net/image/s10/209787/full/Russia_Ural_Mountains.jpg)

The ancient coil-shaped artifacts were found in Russia’s Ural Mountains.


According to an analysis from the Russian Academy of Sciences in Syktyvkar, the largest pieces found are mostly copper, while the smallest are made of tungsten and molybdenum.

While the largest of these objects measure 1.18 inches, the smallest are only 1/10,000th of an inch, and many exhibit Golden Mean proportions. Their shape suggests that they are manufactured and not naturally occurring metal fragments. In fact, they have been found to closely resemble the same miniature components of contemporary nanotechnology.




http://www.sott.net/image/s10/209788/large/nano_coils.jpg (http://www.sott.net/image/s10/209788/full/nano_coils.jpg)
© Herbert Genzmer and Ulrich Hellenbrand



A magnified image of one of the nano coils found in the Ural Mountains.

Though some have asserted that these tiny structures are merely debris left behind from test rockets being launched from nearby Plesetsk space station, a report from the Moscow Institute determined that they are far too old to have come from modern manufacturing.

In 1996, Dr. E.W. Matvejeva, from the Central Scientific Research Department of Geology and Exploitation of Precious Metals in Moscow, writes that, despite being thousands of years old, the components are of a technological origin.

The pieces were found at a depth between 10 and 40 feet, in a geological stratus between 20,000 and 318,000 years old.

How were humans able to manufacture such tiny components in the distant past, and what were they used for? Some believe that the coils prove the human race enjoyed a sophisticated level of technology in the Pleistocene era, while others assert that the findings are the work of extra-terrestrials.

The artifacts have been studied at four different facilities in Helsinki, St. Petersburg, and Moscow. However, further research into these tiny structures seems to have ended in 1999 with the death of Dr. Johannes Fiebag, a principal researcher of the find.

Atlas
7th October 2014, 12:52
Dr. E.W. Matvejeva, from the Central Scientific Research Department of Geology and Exploitation of Precious Metals in Moscow

I searched the Russian Academy of Science's website (www.ras.ru) and found nothing (Google translation might not be the best way though). Some others also were unable to find any "Dr. E.W. Matvejeva" or "Central Scientific Research Department of Geology and Exploitation of Precious Metals in Moscow":


if one googolea Dr. EW Matvejeva or Central Scientific Research Department of Geology and Exploitation of Precious Metals Dr. EW Matvejeva all one finds are a few pages Conspirators ... so I ask you to show me that laboratory studies .. BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING !!! (source (http://papaesceptico.com/que-es-un-esceptico/comment-page-1/#comment-26112))

While Dr. Johannes Fiebag (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Fiebag) seems to be a serious researcher, I was unable to find his study of the 'nanostructures'. It would be interesting to have a look at it...

Thanks for posting.

Hervé
7th October 2014, 13:33
Thanks for looking!

I didn't check these references but here they are:


ICE-AGE NANOTECHNOLOGY (http://www.qtm.net/%7Egeibdan/a1999/oct/ice.htm)
Literature
1. FIEBAG J., Das Raetsel der Ediacara-Fauna (The puzzle of the Ediacara Fauna) in: Daeniken E.v. (Ed.) Kosmische Spuren, Munich, 1988.

2. FIEBAG J., Das Genesis-Projekt, in: Dopatka, U. (Ed.) Sind wir allein? (Are we alone?), Duesseldorf 1996

3. HAUSDORF H. Wenn Goetter Gott spielen (When Gods play God), Munich, 1997

4. OUVAROV V. Personal letter to H. Hausdorf of 2 October 1996.

Dr. Johannes Fiebag can be reached at: jo.fiebag@t-online.de

Findings by geologists indicate possibility of extraterrestrial origin for
microbjects.

And:


As I was told by Dr. Valerii Ouvarov (St. Petersburg), further analyses of the mysterious spiralswere carried out by the out-stations of the Russian Academy of Sciences in St. Petersburg and in Syktyvar (former capital of the Komi ASSR), and also at an independent institute in Helsinki.

I have before me the Expertise No. 18/485 of 29th November 1996, by the aforementioned Institute (ZNIGRI) [3], the original Russian text of which I reproduced in my book WENN GOETTER GOTT SPIELEN. Due to the short time before the book went to press, a correct and complete translation was not possible. This was only possible after a sworn translator had been brought in [4].

The author of the Expertise is Scientific Assistant Mme. Dr. E. W. Matveyeva, of the Section for Geology, Prospecting Techniques, and Economics of Precious Metal Alluvial Deposits. She reports first on the development of the discovery site, then the testing procedures used for the analysis of the thread-shaped tungsten spirals in the alluvial deposits of the Balbanyu river. The exact location of the site is given by ZNIGRI as follows: it is a development in the alluvial deposits of the third flood-terrace on the (looking downstream) left bank of the river Balbanyu, oriented along borehole line no. 106. Loose sediments are found in this development, which are represented as follows, working upwards from the oldest to the youngest deposits:

1 A structured weathering-crust (alternating chalk and carbon-containing slate with grey-blue and brown-yellow banding: visible thickness 0.5 - 1.0 metres.)

2. Included lenticles (Einschlusslinsen) of 0 to 0.2 metres of weakly-sorted sand, gravel, clay, and fine detrital material, which can be designated as erosion products of stratum 1. described above.

3. Deposits of grey gravel and detrital material of various grain sizes with well washed-out sands and a visible thickness of 1 to 1.7 metres, which could be investigated for possible gold content.

4 Gravel-containing sand and clay deposits, grey-coloured, with a visible thickness of 2.0 metres. In the upper region of this sediment can be seen evidence of disturbance by grading work.

As regards the age of the strata which contain the tungsten and molybdenum artefacts, Dr Matveyeva states as follows: The layer which contains the spiral-shaped objects is characterised as gravel and detritus deposits of No. 3 stratum, which in our view, show inner-sedimentary erosion of polygenetic accumulative layers (i.e. layers composed of material of various origins). From their orientation these layers can be dated to 100,000 years and correspond to the lying parts (i.e. the lower regions) of the Mikulinsk horizon of the upper Pleistocene.[3]

In the geological time-scale, the Pleistocene is that part of the Quaternary, the latest geological epoch, which began about 2 million years ago and ended around 10,000 years ago. After that followed the Holocene, in which we are at the moment.

The report continues by describing the tests carried out, which include the use of an electrom microscope type JSM T-330 made by the Japanese firm Jeol. This also yielded data of various spectroscopic analyses [5].

[Figure 2 - Micro-artefact found in the Urals Click on picture for larger image.]

Particular attention should be paid to the final conclusion reached by the Moscow institute. Report No. 18/485 states that the age of the deposits and the results of the tests give a very low probability to the assumption that the origin of these unusual, thread-shaped tungsten crystals is of a technogenic cosmic nature, due to the rocket take-off route from the Plesetsk space-station over the polar part of the Ural region.

In plain language: these objects cannot have originated from earlier test rockets or similar fired from Plesetsk. The key word of the report comes finally to the point: The data obtained allow the possibility of an extra-terrestrial technogenic origin.[3]

In view of these conclusions, critics will find it very difficult to accuse me of pseudo-documentationor embarrassing behaviour. On the contrary: I will try to obtain further investigation reports from the independent Finnish research institute, on which greater value might be placed.

My hypothesis is that these artefacts are so-called nano-technology, which I can sustain with reference to a recent publication [6]. Researchers all over the world are working on miniature pistons, gear wheels, switches, and other control elements, to be used in nano-robots. These workers will soon be in a position to achieve results which hitherto have been the province of science fiction.

Surely the last word has not yet been said about the sensational finds in the Ural mountains!

*
Literature and remarks
1. Hausdorf H. Wenn Goetter Gott spielen Muenchen 1997

2. Hausdorf H. Sensationeller Fund in Russland Ancient Skies, 2/1997

3. Matveyeva, E.W. Conclusions on the finds of threrad-shaped tungsten spirals in the alluvial deposits of the Balbanyu river. ZNIGRI Analysis 18/485 of 29 Nov. 1996

4. In this connection I must thank the Aldea Translation Bureau in Cologne for good co-operation and much help in the translation from the Russian.

5. I would be glad to send interested readers a copy of the complete ZNIGRI report for the cost and postage, also representative micro-photographs.

6. Nanotechnologie Faktor X, 5/1997

Carmody
7th October 2014, 14:53
The most logical explanation is that these objects had been teleported/or similar into their mysterious locations. As far as the so called "star" shaped holes in rock; they look to me to have been created with a splined shaft or similar...I believe the Egyptians where said to have bored holes in stone with copper tubes... This was the conclusion of David Wilcox in his Source Field Investigations book. The work of many others led him to believe that objects move through space-time and time-space and occasionally 'land' in the past. His prelude to the conclusion is pretty convincing.

One of my favorites from his book was the stories about toads and reptiles found alive inside extremely old rock. There are multiple well sourced stories about this phenomenon. The toads jump and move, but die soon thereafter. They leave a space in the rock like someone was making a mold of the animal. Exact shape of the toad, as if it was transported and deposited in the middle of the rock.

The type of rock, the specific constitution, and it's location, are both clues.

A Voice from the Mountains
9th October 2014, 21:19
Despite some creationist assertions that the hammer is a dramatic pre-Flood relic, no clear evidence linking the hammer to any ancient formation has been presented. Moreover, the hammer's artistic style and the condition of the handle suggest a historically recent age.

Anyone else think it's amusing that the wooden handle has become petrified into stone, and then this guy says the same wooden handle's "condition" suggests "a historically recent age"?

Hervé
9th October 2014, 21:26
[...]

Anyone else think it's amusing that the wooden handle has become petrified into stone, and then this guy says the same wooden handle's "condition" suggests "a historically recent age"?

From the photographs I have seen, that handle looks like wood and shows no sign of petrification at all... but I could be wrong.


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LLXV-qgNF9c/UEXIVVrLIfI/AAAAAAAAEqs/gXqnurWULNo/s1600/london_hammer.jpg

Atlas
9th October 2014, 21:39
Here is a detailed picture (click to enlarge):

http://www.bible.ca/tracks/hammer.jpg (http://www.bible.ca/tracks/hammer.jpg)

Atlas
9th October 2014, 21:55
From the photographs I have seen, that handle looks like wood and shows no sign of petrification at all... but I could be wrong.


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LLXV-qgNF9c/UEXIVVrLIfI/AAAAAAAAEqs/gXqnurWULNo/s1600/london_hammer.jpg
I think that this is a replica (not sure either...).



Despite some creationist assertions that the hammer is a dramatic pre-Flood relic, no clear evidence linking the hammer to any ancient formation has been presented. Moreover, the hammer's artistic style and the condition of the handle suggest a historically recent age.

Anyone else think it's amusing that the wooden handle has become petrified into stone, and then this guy says the same wooden handle's "condition" suggests "a historically recent age"?

Ian Juby wrote an interesting analysis of the hammer: http://ianjuby.org/newsletter/?p=424


Conclusions:

There is no evidence that the rock matrix surrounding the hammer is a recent concretion.
There is no evidence that the shells in the rock matrix have been reworked, which would indicate a recent concretion.
There are no unabraded shells available in the riverbed for the rock matrix to be a recent concretion.
The composition of the rock matrix and the embedded fossil shells match the Cretaceous Hensell Sandstone layer, which for multiple geological reasons we would contend was laid down during a world wide flood.
Contrary to the rather silly suggestions of some skeptics, the rock matrix did not come from a calcite growth, nor is there any calcite formations or hot springs in the area.
In spite of the fact that there should only be so much variation in hammer head styles, neither skeptics nor creationists have been able to produce a single historic hammer like the London hammer. Upon further examination, the claims of the skeptics have turned out to be either baseless, or venturing into the ridiculous, putting another nail in the coffin of the “modern hammer” claim.

We therefore conclude that the London artifact is good evidence of man at the time of the dinosaurs, and a good example of a genuine antidiluvian (pre-flood) artifact.
About the handle, he wrote:

The Hammer Handle:

The hammer handle itself is primarily still wood, with portions fossilized, and other portions turned to coal. Some skeptics of course might jump on this, claiming that wood that has not fossilized proves the hammer is recent. However, having all three states of wood (petrified, woody and coalified) in “Cretaceous” formations is surprisingly common.

I have personally seen preserved wood in lower Jurassic layers in Northwestern Colorado (The Morrison formation), and the late cretaceous of Alberta (Horseshoe Canyon formation). One log from the Northern Colorado dinosaur dig site is on display at the entrance to Creation Evidence museum, which also shows all three preserved states.

So the wood in the handle neither verifies nor refutes its age, but the coal and the permineralization would certainly seem to lend credence to a greater age.
Can someone enlighten us on this handle ?

Hervé
9th October 2014, 22:14
[...]
I think that this is a replica (not sure either...).

[...]

If it's a replica, it's quite a detailed one because those details points to same rock and same hammer head. Only the wood seems to be somewhat loose in its "gangue."

Nick Matkin
9th October 2014, 22:51
Ancient nanostructures found in Ural mountains are out of place and time (http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/science/russias-ancient-nanostructures-23926.html)

Leonardo Vinti
Epoch Times (http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/science/russias-ancient-nanostructures-23926.html)
Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:02 CEST


http://www.sott.net/image/s10/209786/large/Ancient_nanostructures_in_Ural.jpg (http://www.sott.net/image/s10/209786/full/Ancient_nanostructures_in_Ural.jpg)


An Oopart (out of place artifact) is a term applied to dozens of prehistoric objects found in various places around the world that, given their level of technology, are completely at odds with their determined age based on physical, chemical, and/or geological evidence. Ooparts often are frustrating to conventional scientists and a delight to adventurous investigators and individuals interested in alternative scientific theories.

In 1991, the appearance of extremely tiny, coil-shaped artifacts found near the banks of Russia's Kozhim, Narada, and Balbanyu rivers brought about a debate that has continued to this day. These mysterious and minuscule structures suggest that there may have been a culture capable of developing nanotechnology 300,000 years ago.

These manufactured coils were initially discovered during geological research associated with the extraction of gold in the Ural mountains. These pieces include coils, spirals, shafts, and other unidentified components.


http://www.sott.net/image/s10/209787/large/Russia_Ural_Mountains.jpg (http://www.sott.net/image/s10/209787/full/Russia_Ural_Mountains.jpg)

The ancient coil-shaped artifacts were found in Russia’s Ural Mountains.


According to an analysis from the Russian Academy of Sciences in Syktyvkar, the largest pieces found are mostly copper, while the smallest are made of tungsten and molybdenum.

While the largest of these objects measure 1.18 inches, the smallest are only 1/10,000th of an inch, and many exhibit Golden Mean proportions. Their shape suggests that they are manufactured and not naturally occurring metal fragments. In fact, they have been found to closely resemble the same miniature components of contemporary nanotechnology.




http://www.sott.net/image/s10/209788/large/nano_coils.jpg (http://www.sott.net/image/s10/209788/full/nano_coils.jpg)
© Herbert Genzmer and Ulrich Hellenbrand



A magnified image of one of the nano coils found in the Ural Mountains.

Though some have asserted that these tiny structures are merely debris left behind from test rockets being launched from nearby Plesetsk space station, a report from the Moscow Institute determined that they are far too old to have come from modern manufacturing.

In 1996, Dr. E.W. Matvejeva, from the Central Scientific Research Department of Geology and Exploitation of Precious Metals in Moscow, writes that, despite being thousands of years old, the components are of a technological origin.

The pieces were found at a depth between 10 and 40 feet, in a geological stratus between 20,000 and 318,000 years old.

How were humans able to manufacture such tiny components in the distant past, and what were they used for? Some believe that the coils prove the human race enjoyed a sophisticated level of technology in the Pleistocene era, while others assert that the findings are the work of extra-terrestrials.

The artifacts have been studied at four different facilities in Helsinki, St. Petersburg, and Moscow. However, further research into these tiny structures seems to have ended in 1999 with the death of Dr. Johannes Fiebag, a principal researcher of the find.

When I first saw this report years ago, I thought they looked like close-ups of the filament of some types of incandescent light bulb.

Then I read about these 'ancient' finds in Fortean Times (I think), saying they turned out to be modern industrial waste, filaments from various types and sizes of light bulbs that for some reason had been dumped there, and covered, so they look like they've been there for "thousands of years".

This story is quoted and re-quoted verbatim all over the internet.

The materials, when analysed turn out to be what's used in light bulbs! I can't find a clear reference yet about this stuff being confirmed as just being industrial waste, but I'll keep looking.

Nevertheless, given the choice that it's mysterious nanotechnology from alien helpers thousands of years ago, or forgotten industrial waste that looks and tests like old light bulb fragments...

Let me think which one my money's on...

Nick

A Voice from the Mountains
11th October 2014, 04:23
Can someone enlighten us on this handle ?

Or maybe more to the point, what's up with these dating techniques and geological ages?

When you have intact wood supposedly from the Cretaceous period, and the same piece of wood is both also partially fossilized and partially turned to coal, doesn't that sound like all this stuff from these periods, dinosaurs included, could be a lot more recent than we're being told?




Nevertheless, given the choice that it's mysterious nanotechnology from alien helpers thousands of years ago, or forgotten industrial waste that looks and tests like old light bulb fragments...

It would be a good explanation (industrial waste) but then if it's really nanotechnology (which it does in fact appear to be) then it would have to be a specific kind of industrial waste, from probably a relatively big-name company doing such work and not just for everyday light bulbs.

I don't know much about the nano-technology industry but I wonder if dumping a lot of materials in this way, out in the middle of the Urals, would even be that necessary.

Nick Matkin
11th October 2014, 11:56
I don't know much about the nano-technology industry but I wonder if dumping a lot of materials in this way, out in the middle of the Urals, would even be that necessary.

I suspect the 'nano technology' phrase was added by a journalist who knew nothing about the technology either. But it's a great phrase and gets repeated in all the verbatim versions of this story. What if it's just a close-up photo of light bulb filament wire? Nano technology is MUCH smaller than that! (There's a clue in the name: 'nano'.)

Since none of us have been to the site, we don't know how far away it is from any industrial areas, or what sites waste contractors used to dump the waste. If it's hundreds of miles from civilization, I admit that would be an odd place to go just to dump light bulb waste. But I expect in reality it's not far from the factory!

Nick

Carmody
11th October 2014, 18:23
http://0.tqn.com/y/paranormal/1/S/5/A/2/fossil-hammer.jpg


The hammer head and partial handle was found near London, Texas by two hikers, Mr. and Mrs. Hahn, in 1936 near the Red Creek when they spotted a piece of wood protruding from a rock. It wasn't until about 1947 that their son broke open the rock, revealing the hammer head inside.

This tool presents a difficult problem for archaeologists: the limestone rock in which it is encased is estimated to be 110-115 million years old. In fact the wooden handle has petrified, like ancient petrified wood, the the hammer head, composed of solid iron, is of relatively recent design.


As with all extraordinary claims, the burden of proof is on those making the claims, not on those questioning them. Despite some creationist assertions that the hammer is a dramatic pre-Flood relic, no clear evidence linking the hammer to any ancient formation has been presented. Moreover, the hammer's artistic style and the condition of the handle suggest a historically recent age. It may well have been dropped by a local worker within the last few hundred years, after which dissolved sediment hardened into a concretion around it. Unless Baugh or others can provide rigorous evidence that the hammer was once naturally situated in a pre-Quaternary stratum, it remains merely a curiosity, not a reliable out-of-place artifact.

http://paleo.cc/paluxy/hammer.htm

I tried ONE of these examples (the above one, random, first), in Google earth with the vortex maps ley line overlay kmz file,and I immediately find that the Red Creek, near London Texas, is directly on a ley line.

Which means dimensional shifting, energetic shifting, time shifting/melding, etc, on an in all these areas of 'reality'.

If the time of day is right, and the soil conditions are right and the astrological time is right, we can get this dimensional and temporal barrier weakening.

Exactly as I stated.

IF the soil or rock is capable of carrying a magnetic and electric signature, like granite, some times of limestone, and they are charged, as in a draining condition, like a battery with voltage, etc...we can get this sort of thing happening. I've explained the entire thing in other threads, on the specifics of how this works.

This takes you to the mothman, the 411 parks thing, missing people, all kinds of phenomena. as well as Illuminati using the lines and vortex points for meetings, rituals, ritual sacrifice, calling of entities, trying to change timelines and energies, Underground facilities, and so on...

All of it real on all levels, no matter how difficult that is for some to accept.

A Voice from the Mountains
12th October 2014, 06:58
I suspect the 'nano technology' phrase was added by a journalist who knew nothing about the technology either. But it's a great phrase and gets repeated in all the verbatim versions of this story. What if it's just a close-up photo of light bulb filament wire? Nano technology is MUCH smaller than that! (There's a clue in the name: 'nano'.)

I admit I don't know much about the actual (physical) material in question and I don't have time right now to look deeply into it, as to the sources talking about it and what exactly they claim and this and that, but I know what nanotechnology is. At one time I was going to school for electronics engineering and one of the first classes I had to take was introduction to engineering, which covered where technology was going today and this included a general education on nanotechnology. If it's on the nano-scale then it doesn't matter what somebody calls it, it's pretty straightforward what's required to manufacture it.


All I know about it, is what was posted above, which says some of the pieces found are as small as 1/10,000th of an inch. Of course anyone can post anything on the Internet, but most people on this site are likely to also realize that there are many things suppressed by other forms of media which find their way onto the Internet and either have a lot of truth to them or point the way towards a more accurate understanding of reality.

1/10,000th of an inch is equal to 2540 nanometers. Definitions as to what scale constitutes nanotechnology vary from less than 100 nm to simply being measured in "100s" of nanometers or less. The real question is what kind of industrial process is required, because newly-developed techniques are what have really given us this jump, and if new techniques would be required for the creation of these things, and not standard industrial processes decades old (such as conventional bulb-making techniques -- and I don't know why anyone would need extremely tiny light bulb components, on this scale), then it is a moot point what you call it.

Atlas
12th October 2014, 08:33
3. Matveyeva, E.W. Conclusions on the finds of threrad-shaped tungsten spirals in the alluvial deposits of the Balbanyu river. ZNIGRI Analysis 18/485 of 29 Nov. 1996 [...]

5. I would be glad to send interested readers a copy of the complete ZNIGRI report for the cost and postage, also representative micro-photographs.
Finally, I found this so-called "Central Scientific Research Institute for Geology and Prospecting for Precious and Non-Ferrous Metals (ZNIGRI) in Moscow".

It is the Central Research Institute of Geological Prospecting for Base and Precious Metals (TsNIGRI), FSUE - Website: http://www.tsnigri.ru/

And here is what Martin J. Clemens (http://www.paranormalpeopleonline.com/the-russian-screws-the-mystery-continues-part-two-of-two) wrote:


TsNIGRI oversees or controls two journals, National Geology, which was founded in 1933 and is a scientific or industry periodical that publishes articles and commentary on the theoretical aspects of geology, and Ores & Metals, which was founded in 1992 for the “rapid dissemination of information and the creation of an information base for fundamental research in the field of ore deposits and their geological structure and mineral resources.”

Unfortunately, while these journals are archived online through the Russian language E-Library, a searchable database of literally millions of Russian scientific publications and individual articles, I can find no mention of the Narandan Spiral Artefacts (or Narandan Metal Fasteners (http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naradan_metallikierteet), as a Russian language wikipedia.org entry calls them, or even through any other variation of the several names that have come up in this research) through either of the mentioned publications, or any other.
He adds:


In the end, we’re left with the same problems as were mentioned in part one; none of his story can be verified. It’s interesting to note that the Wikipedia entry for the Naradan Metal Fasteners, as mentioned above, lists Hausdorf’s book as well as two further websites – mystae.com and ufoligie.net, both of which are no longer operating – as the only sources for the entire entry.
Also, Scientific Assistant Mme. Dr. E. W. Matveyeva is nowhere to be found on the TsNIGRI's website.

Martin J. Clemens also had some trouble in finding the rivers mentioned in the text:


the rivers cited, in the Ural Mountains where the supposed artefacts were found, were also not found in any listings of waterways in the area. However, after adjusting for Hausdorf’s apparent difficulty with translating either from Russian to German, or from German to English, a spelling variation of one of the rivers returned a result for Kožim.[4] (http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ko%C5%BEim) Which is a tributary of Kosjun of the Komi Republic in Russia. The other rivers, Narada (or Naradan) and Balbanyu are still unaccounted for, though again, this may be due to incorrect spellings.
In concluding his 2 pages article (http://www.paranormalpeopleonline.com/the-russian-screws-proof-of-ancient-aliens/) he asks:


Are the Narada or Naradan Spirals real? Are they 20,000 years old? Were they examined scientifically by a Russian Federal agency, or by some crackpot UFOlogist? Did Hausdorf make the whole thing up?

Hausdorf's articles on the wayback machine part1 (https://web.archive.org/web/20010606190439/http://home.fireplug.net/~rshand/streams/science/russcrew.html) - part2 (https://web.archive.org/web/20010603085047/http://home.fireplug.net/~rshand/streams/science/russcrew2.html)

Still no scientific evidence of the ice age nano-structures...

Can someone contact tsnigri.ru to ask for a copy of the Report No. 18/485 (if it does exist) ?
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EDIT: I just found the report: https://web.archive.org/web/20041101072506/http://www.freie-energie.net/index/phaser/wolframspir_fund.htm

Automatic translation from German:


Content translation from Russian

Committee of the Russian Federation for geology.

Central scientific Forschungsinstut of Geology and exploration of non-ferrous and precious metals.

Moscow,
Varshavskoye storeys,
International Information Centre UI "MIZUFI"
Fax: 095 / 315-77-91

29.11.1996 18/485

Results of laboratory tests of filament formation from the alluvial deposits of the river Balbanju.

Conclusions on the findings of filamentary tungsten spirals in the alluvial deposits of the river Balbanju.

In the period of the field work of the ZNIGRI in 1995 was obtained in the low flow area of the river Balbanju in the sampling of alluvial gold-bearing deposits of the heavy silt fraction two spiral samples. Was sampled a section of the alluvial deposits of the third flood terrace of the left bank of the river Balbanju with orientation along the Bohrline 106 (holes 110 -112). Here were loose debris that found extending from below to above constitute the pillar wall of the open pit mining.

First The structural weathering crust has an alternating layering of limestone and a visible thickness from 0.5 to 1 m.
Second Lenses of small size (0 to 0.2 m) from weakly sorted sand, gravel, clay and fine debris material that can be represented as Auswaschungsprodukt the first floor.
Third Deposits of gray scree and boulder material of different grain size with well-washed sands and a visible thickness from 1 to 1.7 m, representing himself as the object with respect Goldhaltigkeit.
4th Debris containing sand and clay deposits, gray in color, with a visible thickness of 2 m; at the top of disturbances by leveling works.

The silt, which contained the spiral objects, characterizes itself as scree and glacial deposits of the third floor, which in our opinion (Rindsjunskaja others; 1988) represent a result of innersedimentären leaching of poli-genetic, accumulative layers. These deposits can be dated orientationally 100 000 years, according to the lying parts of the sole Mikulinsker the upper Pleistocene.

The study of the micro-morphology was performed with a solution electron microscope JSM T-330, the company Jeol (Japan), and the composition of the test surface sections was performed with a Energiedispersionsanalysator LINK TO - and 10000 (Laboratory for Biomaterials, NIIT and the IO of the Ministry of Health medical industry: analyst wasin SL) performed.

In the investigation of secondary mineralization of all, their general, distinct orientation relative to the longitudinal ribs of the spiral was found (Figure 1). The orientation of the single crystals is also consistent with these directions coincide (Figure 2). Such regularity suggests that we are dealing with a unit in the form of parallel crystalline adhesions in individuals whose thickness is hundredths of a millimeter, the latter being well explained the ribbed, lateral surface of the aggregate.

Synthetic tungsten crystallizes in exchange centered lattice with a period a = 5.1647A. Tungsten also has a natural cubic symmetry with a mesh factor a = 3.157 (Nowgorodowa, 1995). However, the filament-like form is not observed in minerals depending on the composition, crystalline structure, type of chemical compound or symmetry and phase state of the mineral-forming medium. An example of this are solid gold, silver and copper (Malejew, 1971).

The correctness of our assumption confirmed a recording a micrograph of the fracture surface of the spiral can be seen on the that the internal structure represents a bundle thread-shaped individuals with a single thickness on the order of 1 micron (Figure 3). Similar shapes, including a spiral-shaped silver crystals in the form of a plurality of individual parallel adhesions encountered, the thickness of hundredths of millimeters, and a corrugated lateral surface having (Malejew, 1971).

In this case, the dislocation of the lateral surface acts as the center of the emergence of a new phase in the decomposition of a supersaturated solution or in the decay of a crystal (Malejew, 1971). On the lateral surface of the spiral is clearly determine how, disintegrate in the dimensions of the transition to the outer part of the thread-like crystals that form the spiral in single, compacted areas, from which by further coarse-grained, clearly distinct crystals with growth stages, the crest of the spiral are matched (Figure 5).

Similar forms may also change in the vertex of the cube by entering areas of a cubic shape form (growth defect). Such formation of cubic surfaces is described in skeletal crystals of pyrite, wherein the crystal is cross-shaped as, perpendicular to each other standing plates (Schafranowski, 1968).

The shape of the secondary crystals as a cone-shaped and pagodas, as well as compressed and rectangular, can be explained, in our view by the symmetry of the crystal-forming medium. Due to the presence of a growing crystal at the "bottom" move up or down. Such a medium has the symmetry of a cone (LR) (Schafranowski, 1981). While preserving the external shape of the crystal to match only one axis of symmetry, and the elements of the medium. In particularly intense growth in the direction of perependikularen, cross-shaped surface (001) surface these wedges out gradually, however, the crystal undergoes extension.

The surface analysis of the tungsten Sample Nos. 1, 2 and 3 (spiral of Glühungsfadens) was carried out by Auger spectroscopy method in a eletrooptischen system using LAS-3000 device, equipped with an Auger spectrometer of type "Zylinderischer mirror". The electro-optical system allows to perform a non-destructive analysis of lithium up to the transuranic elements for the elements to be detected. The size of the electronic probe (to analysirender surface area) berägt 0.001 to 0.007 mm. The connection of the electro-optical system with the adoption of sample surfaces with argon ions allows the implementation of a Profielanalyse to study the distribution and modification of the chemical compositions of the elements in depth.

Recording conditions:

Auger spectra:
Energy of the primary electron beam Er = 3.0 keV; Voltage modulation of the outer cylinder of the spectrometer = 2.5 V; Vacuum in the working chamber = 5 * 10 torr; the energy of the ion bombardment = 2.0 keV with an emission current of 20 nA. The atomic concentration of the elements was calculated by the Stranddartformel using the intensities of the Auger peaks and the coefficient of sensitivity of the elements, as stated in the table.
Sample no. 1 (type 1)
After cleaning the sample surface by means of a 20-minute electron bombardment the tips W fix C and O in the spectrum (Figure 1). After a deep treatment (60 min), the fraction W grew by more than two times, the proportion of C and O decreased by 1.6 and 1.4-fold (Figure 2). The charaktreristische shape of the low-energy part of the Auger peak of carbon leads to the conclusion that this element is in the form of carbide (tungsten carbide). More Ionenbeschüsse were no significant changes in the composition of the sample surface.
Sample no. 2 (Type 2)
Drawings 3 and 4 show the Auger spectra of the specimen surfaces after 20 min and 60 min with the corresponding fire. As follows from the obtained spectra and calculations of the atomic concentrations of the elements, no significant differences among the samples 1 and 2 can be made ​​solid.
Sample no. 3 (spiral of Glühungsfadens)
Of the Auger spectra of the Glühungsfadens shown in Figures 5 and 6 it is clear that on the surface tungsten carbide also involved. The proportion of oxygen after 20 minutes bombardment is almost three times less than with the surfaces of samples 1 and 2, after 60 minutes, oxygen bombardment on the surface of the sample no longer fixed.

In this way, it follows from the results obtained that the samples 1 and 2 under hyper-related conditions subject to changes that were evident in hydrolysis and oxidation of its surface, and which the increased oxygen content in the surface layers of these samples compared to sample no. 3 testifies.

conical From (drawing 6)

In the secondary crystals are formed on the side surfaces, the solution flows along this surface to move upward or downward. In this case the symmetry of the nutrient medium is characterized by having a single plane of symmetry of PM (the symmetry of the "arrow or stream"). That is, under these conditions, a growing crystal can be obtained only one plane of symmetry in the symmetry of its outer shape, or it will complete without symmetry. This compacted forms are particularly observed on the side surfaces of the spiral.

The composition of the secondary crystals verdichtet- as rectangular, but also as a pagoda-shaped, represented by pure tungsten (Figures 7,8).

The crystalline growths on the surface of filamentous aggregates dignified tungsten testify to the unusual conditions in the alluvial deposits of the upper Pfeistozäns. The age of the deposits and the sampling conditions gives a low credibility of the assumption that the origin of the unusual, thread-like tungsten crystals is due to a techno logene, cosmic tension, which is caused. Graphically by a Rakentenstartroute from the spaceport to the polar Urals The mentioned data allow the question of their "alien" technogenic origin.

Debye-Scherrer Aufnamen of two types of tungsten developments

The analysis was carried out by IS Naumowa, Associate of WIMS.
The Probenindentifizierung was carried out by the powder method (Debya-Scherrer) in a chamber with a diameter of 57.3 mm on FE-broadcast; the Linienintenstät was visually evaluated.

The Anlalyse the obtained Debye-Scherrer photographs showed that having a log cabin pattern. There is a possibility that as a result, found a relation of the other intensity compared to W gauge. However, it is possible that the redistribution of intensities is connected in these samples with low contents of beta-modifications of Wolframkarbits.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/divers/ural-nano-study.gif


A german poster (http://forum.grenzwissen.de/archive/index.php/t-8497.html) wrote:



Yesterday went to the third part of a BBC documentary, I think on BBC 3 (something to do with UFO's the best evidence). Because they have studied these things in a British laboratory and clearly stated that it is recent industrial products -. Probably of dumped industrial waste, which is namely dumped exactly in this region thousands of tonnes 's see, is Wanns repeated, then ego taking perhaps times on.


Does anyone know which BBC documentary shows the items being tested in a British laboratory ?

Hervé
12th October 2014, 17:46
[...]

A german poster (http://forum.grenzwissen.de/archive/index.php/t-8497.html) wrote:



Yesterday went to the third part of a BBC documentary, I think on BBC 3 (something to do with UFO's the best evidence). Because they have studied these things in a British laboratory and clearly stated that it is recent industrial products -. Probably of dumped industrial waste, which is namely dumped exactly in this region thousands of tonnes 's see, is Wanns repeated, then ego taking perhaps times on.


Does anyone know which BBC documentary shows the items being tested in a British laboratory ?

Thanks buares!

From what I can understand, their analyses demonstrate the existence of secondary crystal growths from alteration/oxidization within the soil and that the tungsten carbide is not from known human manufacturing but crystalline in nature (like the tungsten spiral is constituted of single crystal filaments bundled up together like fiber optics cables... but I could be wrong?), dispelling their provenance from the closest space launch site.

From what I have read, none of the samples were sent to a British lab; only to a lab in Helsinki for independent data.

As for the professional, always unsubstantiated, debunkers' claims like this one:


Probably of dumped industrial waste, which is namely dumped exactly in this region thousands of tonnes 's see, is Wanns repeated, then ego taking perhaps times on. ... well, why didn't they find the remaining 1000s of tons of these industrial wastes... which would save them having to continue their mining prospections... they'll have a deposit right there to hand with refining already all done!

My guess is that someone with eagle eyes spotted these things while panning for gold (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_panning) :)

meat suit
12th October 2014, 19:27
[...]

A german poster (http://forum.grenzwissen.de/archive/index.php/t-8497.html) wrote:



Yesterday went to the third part of a BBC documentary, I think on BBC 3 (something to do with UFO's the best evidence). Because they have studied these things in a British laboratory and clearly stated that it is recent industrial products -. Probably of dumped industrial waste, which is namely dumped exactly in this region thousands of tonnes 's see, is Wanns repeated, then ego taking perhaps times on.


Does anyone know which BBC documentary shows the items being tested in a British laboratory ?

Thanks buares!

From what I can understand, their analyses demonstrate the existence of secondary crystal growths from alteration/oxidization within the soil and that the tungsten carbide is not from known human manufacturing but crystalline in nature (like the tungsten spiral is constituted of single crystal filaments bundled up together like fiber optics cables... but I could be wrong?), dispelling their provenance from the closest space launch site.

From what I have read, none of the samples were sent to a British lab; only to a lab in Helsinki for independent data.

As for the professional, always unsubstantiated, debunkers' claims like this one:


Probably of dumped industrial waste, which is namely dumped exactly in this region thousands of tonnes 's see, is Wanns repeated, then ego taking perhaps times on. ... well, why didn't they find the remaining 1000s of tons of these industrial wastes... which would save them having to continue their mining prospections... they'll have a deposit right there to hand with refining already all done!

My guess is that someone with eagle eyes spotted these things while panning for gold (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_panning) :)

you know what... there is a spiral of waste metal left over in the manufacturing of turbine blades....
google single crystal casting

Hervé
12th October 2014, 20:06
[...]

you know what... there is a spiral of waste metal left over in the manufacturing of turbine blades....
google single crystal casting

If you could provide a link, that would be much appreciated :)

In any case, what seems realistic is that, at the time, there wasn't anything like it that was used by their space/aeronautics industry.

Even if that were the case, that "waste" would have to have found its way within the 3rd layer (dated at 100,000 years ago) excavated in an open pit mining operation...

Crazyrocklady
19th October 2014, 02:36
This rock was found on the coast of Italy, where the Etruscans lived. The hole seems man-made but I cant figure out how the triangle hole was made. My best guess is it is from Atlantis and made with a laser. Perhaps there is a simpler explanation. Anyways, it is awesome, I hope you enjoy it.

Crazyrocklady
19th October 2014, 02:51
Yay! I finally figured out how to post :) This forum rocks

Jake
19th October 2014, 02:52
Yay! I finally figured out how to post :)

Welcome to Avalon Crazyrocklady!!! (Boy that was fun to say... ) :)

Jake.

Crazyrocklady
19th October 2014, 02:56
thank you! :wizard:

Jackson
19th October 2014, 03:21
Yes....welcome to the forum. Cool rock. Look like sandstone.

Jackson (rockhound)

Crazyrocklady
19th October 2014, 04:00
Thank you Jackson :yo:

Bill Ryan
5th August 2023, 13:12
Michelle Hultz has send me this very interesting email. The photos attached are below, reduced in size to fit the page but with links to the original larger versions.

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Hello! I have found a rock with a screw that Geologists say is just like the rock found in China. I am looking for someone who might find this artifact of interest. Please let me know if you should have any leads:
(I have included pictures of my rock and the China rock)

I have been hunting rocks, fossils, and archeological specimens since I was ten years old. I possess an extraordinary specimen. It is a rock exactly like the “prehistoric civilization" rock found in China called the Lanzhou Screw.

The Lanzouh screw shows several screw-like objects embedded inside a quartz stone. According to reports, the screw-like objects had the same ingredients as the rock. It was silicon dioxide.

I have waited years to share this with the right person. The hypothesis is that it is the product of a prehistoric civilization. Researchers from the Institute of Geology and Minerals Research China Academy suggest the the body of the Lanzhou screw was made prior to the rock solidification, a process that is believed to have taken place 300 million years before the present era.

Scientists have unanimously labeled the stone as "one of the most valuable in China and in the world of collection, research and archaeological studies.”
- Lanzhou Morning News.

I could not upload pictures on this site. I have decided to contact you as your research proves to be open minded to explore prehistoric life forms. I am hopeful someone such as you will show interest in an artifact that only exists in Russia and China. (The age of the Lanzhou screw has been carbon dated as a match to a specimen located in Russia) Please email me or call me at

Respectfully,
Michelle B Hultz
studio.michelleb@gmail.com https://projectavalon.net/rock_with_screw_1_sm.jpg

(larger image: https://projectavalon.net/rock_with_screw_1.jpg)


https://projectavalon.net/rock_with_screw_2_sm.jpg

(larger image: https://projectavalon.net/rock_with_screw_2.jpg)


https://projectavalon.net/rock_with_screw_3_sm.jpg

(larger image: https://projectavalon.net/rock_with_screw_3.jpg)


https://projectavalon.net/rock_with_screw_4_sm.jpg

(larger image: https://projectavalon.net/rock_with_screw_4.jpg)

Mark (Star Mariner)
5th August 2023, 14:28
Very fascinating find, and a definite OOPART (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-place_artifact). Curious why these are both called screws. The structure to me looks more like a spring.

Gwin Ru
5th August 2023, 15:02
...

... has "negative" fossilization of crinoid-like stalks/stems (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?81377-Researchers-find-a-250-million-year-old-microchip-in-Russia-plus-various-presentations-interviews.&p=950476&viewfull=1#post950476) been checked? ("negative" meaning the shell/skeleton got dissolved away during or after silicification) (click on picture for larger size)


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/aa/JurassicCrinoidsIsrael.JPG/220px-JurassicCrinoidsIsrael.JPG (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:JurassicCrinoidsIsrael.JPG)
Middle Jurassic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurassic) (Callovian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callovian)) Apiocrinites crinoid pluricolumnals from the Matmor Formation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matmor_Formation) in southern Israel


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/38/Crinoid_anatomy.png/280px-Crinoid_anatomy.png (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Crinoid_anatomy.png)
Anatomy of a stalked crinoid

Sirus
5th August 2023, 17:01
The thread seems horizontal, so I doubt it's a screw.

JackMcThorn
5th August 2023, 17:18
51473

It does not look like a 'thread'. The pitch is measured from the corresponding point to the next identical point as per the illustration. You could argue the rock examples have a sort of pitch measurement from one peak to the next, but it does not look as though it spirals around.

If this rock were indeed revealing a fastener of some sort, there should be evidence of other engineering attributes located where these samples were found; to include other 'fasteners'.

3oo million years is quite an awful long time. Sometimes I really wonder how accurate these dating methods are, actually.

Lilyofthestars
7th August 2023, 22:08
I am so excited to have found this thread, thanks for starting it Bill! :clapping:

I have some fascinating photos to share. The land I am preparing to move to but haven't moved to full time yet has some truly impressive elongated stones. I talked to the original owners of the land and they said that they just found these around the property.. They're super long elongated stones that do not seem naturally formed in the slightest. Upon researching it, such stones are normally associated with Native Americans or even the "mound builders" which Native Americans have many legends about.. Mound builders are normally associated with the giants... That's all I could find on these types of rocks as I think they are really rare to just come by.

Here are some pictures I just took yesterday... Would anyone have any insight into these?

https://i.postimg.cc/ZWrL1jbj/20230805-174028.jpg (https://postimg.cc/ZWrL1jbj)

https://i.postimg.cc/yWkyV76D/20230805-174114.jpg (https://postimg.cc/yWkyV76D)

https://i.postimg.cc/LJBzyXDb/20230805-174102.jpg (https://postimg.cc/LJBzyXDb)

https://i.postimg.cc/wtqDnpbT/20230805-174209.jpg (https://postimg.cc/wtqDnpbT)

The property also has enormous megalithic stones (we're talking car sized) that shockingly create a near perfect half circle or crescent. Previous land owners say they were there when they purchased the land which had been totally undeveloped, so, they seem to have been placed there deliberately a very long time ago. They agreed that they likely didn't just "fall" this way naturally.

Eva2
7th September 2023, 04:02
Thought this was interesting that the "artists" during this period only painted what they observed in everyday life:

'Ancient mural painting in the Nubian pyramids depicting a ‘Giant’ carrying two elephants!!

If you drive north from Khartoum along a narrow desert road toward the ancient city of Meroë, a breathtaking view emerges from beyond the mirage: dozens of steep pyramids piercing the horizon. No matter how many times you may visit, there is an awed sense of discovery.

The site of Meroë was brought to the knowledge of Europeans in 1821 by the French mineralogist Frédéric Cailliaud (1787-1869). The most interesting objects found were the reliefs and paintings on the walls of the sepulchral chambers. One of the paintings depicts a giant of enormous proportions carrying two elephants.'

His features are not Nubian but caucasian and his hair is light in color. Will this mural painting be proof of the existence of a race of red-haired giants with six fingers in antiquity?

The city of Meroë is marked by more than two hundred pyramids, of which many are in ruins. They have the distinctive size and proportions of Nubian pyramids.

This is the link to the page containing the mural:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AncientAliens/comments/om0c68/ancient_mural_paintings_of_nubian_pyramids_depict

https://projectavalon.net/mural_with_two_elephants.jpg
(https://www.reddit.com/r/AncientAliens/comments/om0c68/ancient_mural_paintings_of_nubian_pyramids_depict)

Mark (Star Mariner)
7th September 2023, 12:32
Very interesting story, thanks! Unfortunately the page is protected, so no copy/pasting text or saving images. Fortunately I know a few tricks...

Meroë came into the picture and to the knowledge of Europeans in 1821 by the French mineralogist Frédéric Cailliaud (1787-1869). Numerous enigmatic and mysterious objects were discovered which included the reliefs and paintings on the walls of the sepulchral chambers. One such mysterious find was a painting that depicts a giant of enormous proportions carrying two elephants.

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Moreover, many of the wall paintings of ancient Egypt depict the builders of Pyramids as “Giant People” by the size of 5 to 6 meters tall. It is believed by researchers and experts that the giants had the ability to lift 4 to 5 tons of blocks individually.

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Some of those ancient mural paintings showed giant kings ruling ancient Egypt, while some depicted comparably little-sized servants under the giant people.

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Gregor Spörri, a Swiss entrepreneur and a passionate admirer of the history of Ancient Egypt, met with a gang of robbers of ancient burials through one of the private suppliers in Egypt in 1988. According to Gregor Spörri, the owner of the giant finger was a grave robber that acquired the piece while searching through an undisclosed thumb in Egypt. When Gregor Spörri, a 56-year-old entrepreneur offered to purchase the giant finger, the owner responded: NEVER.As per Gregor Spörri, the grave robber who discovered the finger also had a certificate of Authenticity and an X-ray image, both of which are from the 1960s.

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