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Eric J (Viking)
23rd March 2010, 10:15
I know alot of people think this is a load of mumbo jumbo...But???

Were we on the verge of Nasara being disclosed prior to 911??

Would this be the start of a New Paradigm...

Would it shape our world and raise humanty...imagine!!

quote...
"This is why the opposition ordered the September 11, 2001 attacks on the WTC, the Pentagon, and the Pennsylvania location. The opposition knew that the final word had been given notifying the networks to get ready to broadcast NESARA's announcement. This meant the end of their power was mere hours away. The opposition also planned to try to steal the funds of these prosperity programs for their own uses. In addition, they intended to try to start a war [the Afghanistan war was planned and predicted earlier in the year by the Bush Administration]. All these things were part of why the opposition ordered the Sept 11 attacks. Power and greed are the opposition's driving motives; unfortunately for them, they sealed their fates totally on September 11, 2001. [No airliner hit the Pentagon, it was a Cruise missile or F16 fighter loaded with explosives and remote controlled to take out the Operations Centre for NESARA's announcement. The Pennsylvania airliner hit its target, an underground facility connected with NESARA. No Arab hijackers were on the passenger lists. The mobile phone "conversations" were false. These phones do not operate above 1000 feet! It has been shown that the CIA planned and carried out the operations, including imploding the WTC towers with explosives, and all this will come out in future disclosures to the public."

further interesting reading and full article...
http://people.aapt.net.au/~galactac/nesara.htm

viking

Gareth
23rd March 2010, 10:44
The American people sure will be miffed when they discover 911 was an inside job! :closed_2:

G

Bill Ryan
23rd March 2010, 11:09
Hi. Folks:

For what it's worth, I am 100% convinced that NESARA is pure nonsense - at least now and for quite some time back.

I'd also place into the 'nonsense' category almost all of everything written nowadays by Christopher Story, together with 100% of all channeled information that relates to NESARA.

It's an irritating distraction which bears no relation to reality - financial or otherwise. This strong opinion is not intended to offend anyone here, but I rather think there are MUCH more important and worthwhile subjects to be discussing.

Eric J (Viking)
23rd March 2010, 11:15
Thanks for your input Bill....much appreciated...

Nethertheless it's an interesting read...And folks have the right to know the truth...

viking

K626
23rd March 2010, 11:20
Totally agree with Bill on this one.

samvado
23rd March 2010, 12:05
The voice of reason! thank you Bill! Nesara has been debunked so many times, it on even keel with that Sheldan Nidle guy.

starsmoonmtns
24th March 2010, 09:41
Hey Gareth, I knew the morning that 911 hit the TV's here that our gov't.... knew about it b4 it happened and was partly behind it...and well... others too.... mossad....?

As for Nesara Bill, I too could not agree more, and when you mentioned your feelings regarding channelers, I knew then that we were heading in the right direction... here on PA2!
Thanks guys!

Peace All

Eric J (Viking)
24th March 2010, 10:06
Hey Gareth, I knew the morning that 911 hit the TV's here that our gov't.... knew about it b4 it happened and was partly behind it...and well... others too.... mossad....?

As for Nesara Bill, I too could not agree more, and when you mentioned your feelings regarding channelers, I knew then that we were heading in the right direction... here on PA2!
Thanks guys!

Peace All

I wonder if there are any channellers out there who are genuine?

If so, who...

For example.... good old George Green has a heart of gold and his messages for Humanity are awesome...

I have read his books time and time again...and each time I get a different message...when you look at what he presents to us via the Paradigm series I would say that these messages are certainly from a higher plane of existance!

viking

Northern Boy
13th April 2010, 00:05
Hi. Folks:

For what it's worth, I am 100% convinced that NESARA is pure nonsense - at least now and for quite some time back.

I'd also place into the 'nonsense' category almost all of everything written nowadays by Christopher Story, together with 100% of all channeled information that relates to NESARA.

It's an irritating distraction which bears no relation to reality - financial or otherwise. This strong opinion is not intended to offend anyone here, but I rather think there are MUCH more important and worthwhile subjects to be discussing.

I agree 100% with you Bill from what I can gather it would just be a way to continue using the same old out dated formula for controlling the mass`s thru fiat currency

jacody
13th April 2010, 01:07
Bill has the true story here, Nesara is yet another lie too make people think they know the "truth" when in actuality it's just another lie too distract them further. I'm glad that there are people who can sort fact from obvious fiction.

Oh and Viking I agree it is an interesting read. The concept of becoming a better race is fascinating too me and too others as well, or so I would imagine.

THE eXchanger
13th April 2010, 01:21
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Majorion
13th April 2010, 01:34
Nesara strikes me as just another load of nonsense like GFL or Ashtar and all these 'channeled' materials. From what I gather, these groups target people like us (truth movement / spirituality / ufos), they browse the forums and see topics like 9/11 and add it to their fiction. I often suspect that such groups as these are the real disinformation agents, and it surprises me when some don't notice the obvious. The truth is that Nesara and the ilk are doing more damage to ufology than any skeptic or debunker could ever hope for.

Redtailhawk
13th April 2010, 01:59
[QUOTE=viking;2636]I wonder if there are any channellers out there who are genuine?

If so, who...

My friend Laurie Campbell is genuine. www.lauriecampbell.net She is a Medium, the rule of thumb is that all mediums are psychics, but not all psychics are mediums. But she can also go in to altered states and channel scientists like James Clerk Maxwell and come up with hard facts. She has been studied by a lot of scientists and has proven herself many times under laboratory conditions at the U of A-Tucson. She has a show called Sensing Murder and has found dead bodies and has solved murder mysteries. Her ability is VERY RARE. I do not for the most part believe any channeling garbage, but I trust her as she has proven her abilities to me (under double blind conditions) and helped me solve mysteries too.

starsmoonmtns
13th April 2010, 02:12
Thanks M, for clarifying channellers for me,,, it is a confusing subject and a lot of charlatans are out there making a buck or two.
I suppose it's a lot like telepathy, but u have to trust the source and be careful of who you are in contact with i suppose...
Laurie sounds like a wonderful person, i'm sure she knows how to tell the difference.....

shiva777
13th April 2010, 03:00
there will definitely have to be a new economic/political/spiritual paradigm as the current systems collapse under the weight of their own BS but I don't see any NESARA type rescue plan on the horizon...this hype about NESARA has been around for decades...you will all be rich tomorrow,just sit on your fat rear-end and wait,yeah right!.

The mainstream new-agey channeling and "teaching" scene has been just as corrupted as all the religions have been but there are some pearls of wisdom and truth in amongst it all.Many people have benefited greatly from info and techniques and insights from some channelled sources,many others have become complete nutbars from channeled info and techniques...if you think all channeling is BS then you must also think all intuition and psychic awareness is BS....but what people don't seem to realise is that for every "entity" that people believe in there is a cue of imposter entities that go by the same name in the astral planes (4D) that will happily answer the call of any channeler who wishes to recieve messages.would the real ST Germain please stand up,..and lots of "St Germains." promptly stand up....almost all channelers are dealing with these imposters,hence the huge array of channelers bringing through Nesara info,ET's will save you etc,etc...and of course the channelers beliefs and negative ego taints ALL channelings,some more than others though


We all need to keep fine tuning our discernment and that can only be done through INNER WORK.We live in a time where people are desperate for saviours and scapegoats and "insider" info so people will cling to whatever they can get their hands on,Proj Camelot included...the cosmic joke is that everything we need and all the answers are within.But until we can mine our own inner Gurus wisdom and CHANNEL our Godselves some outside sources can be very helpful.

This guy tells it like it is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgps85scy1g&feature=player_embedded

Nagual
13th April 2010, 08:02
I've been researching Nesara for some time, and pretty much agree with Bill's post.

Humble Janitor
13th April 2010, 08:14
Hi. Folks:

For what it's worth, I am 100% convinced that NESARA is pure nonsense - at least now and for quite some time back.

I'd also place into the 'nonsense' category almost all of everything written nowadays by Christopher Story, together with 100% of all channeled information that relates to NESARA.

It's an irritating distraction which bears no relation to reality - financial or otherwise. This strong opinion is not intended to offend anyone here, but I rather think there are MUCH more important and worthwhile subjects to be discussing.

Exactly. To read you write it is exactly what I think. There is no NESARA or at the least, it is a fantasy for people who think that they can defeat the elite just by passing an act. It goes deeper than that. You can't change the world overnight by passing a law.

Luke
13th April 2010, 08:49
I may assess that's the same ilk as "changing the goverment to a better one" and so on. Power corrupts. Still it's funny to see propagation of such "solutions" - but they are doing the damage, as people focus on political bickering inside the system and not finding solution outside. Reminds me of folks here in 1980's that tried to create "socialism with a human face" ... and then came the tanks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Wojenny).
Money is an important factor only because current system is a closed one, governed by entropy. Open the system and money (even true money like gold) is worthless, still there always would be a form of currency. Like ideas, or computing space/power.

Northern Boy
13th April 2010, 09:40
Money is an important factor only because current system is a closed one, governed by entropy. Open the system and money (even true money like gold) is worthless, still there always would be a form of currency. Like ideas, or computing space/power.

MONEY IS ONLY A FACTOR BECAUSE WE FAIL TO REALIZE THAT WE ARE THE RIGHTFUL OWNERS AND CARETAKERS OF THE EARTH . And because of this anything taken from the eath be it under ground or above as in minerals ,oil,gas lumber belong to all of us not just a company tor corporation . We should be getting compensated anytime some thing is removed from it , the earth , in the form of free or a substantially reduced cost for allowing it to be removed from the planet . The last part of your statement I have highlighted is true its all just something we give value to and when it comes right down to it everything is worth nothing but we have been conditioned to accept it does for so long people just can`t give it up

starsmoonmtns
26th April 2010, 05:53
Re: Nesara...what is the true story??
We agree completely we call it ~ NET-SCAR-a or NET-SCARE-a

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However, the concept of a world with a different eXchange - is mighty interesting to ponder
after_all, we were all born rich !!!
Great comment EXChanger! I couldn't agree more!



Exceptional....

Peace 2 U
:laser:

Teakai
26th April 2010, 06:08
The American people sure will be miffed when they discover 911 was an inside job! :closed_2:

G

I wonder when that will be. Haven't the 911 Truthers been on about it for ages. Made heaps of documentaries, the facts of which are very difficult to argue with, and still they are considered by the majority as the lunatic fringe.
I think most people just don't want to know. It's too far out of their comfort zone.

starsmoonmtns
26th April 2010, 06:23
Most of us are Teakai....
Glad 2 meet U friend....
Peace

Teakai
26th April 2010, 06:26
there will definitely have to be a new economic/political/spiritual paradigm as the current systems collapse under the weight of their own BS but I don't see any NESARA type rescue plan on the horizon...this hype about NESARA has been around for decades...you will all be rich tomorrow,just sit on your fat rear-end and wait,yeah right!.



I think the reason we think so is because it's all we've ever known. Perhaps, when we really fully realise what our capabilties are there will be a whole new system that is at this time beyond our conscious level of conception.

I was watching a follow up of Zeitgeist, in which they were talking about a new society that didn't deal at all in any kind of currency.
That seems hard to imagine because currency seems to be the driving force behind our culture. It seems to be the motivator for a whole lot of people. We desire it for what we think it can give us, but what if we realise we already have and are all that we need? Then it becomes totally irrelevant.

Teakai
26th April 2010, 06:41
Most of us are Teakai....
Glad 2 meet U friend....
Peace

That's really good news starsmoonmtns. I was under the impression the Truthers were the minority, but it's hard to know for sure because I'm in Australia.
Most people I talk to here about it (not that it's a lot) but they've never questioned that it wasn't legitimately what they've been told by the media it is - despite ALL the glaring discrepancies that have surfaced in the mainstream.
Call anything a conspiracy theory and it's instantly disregarded - there's got to be some kind of psychological study on that - is it fear of ridicule perhaps, plain old laziness, or fear of finding out something they ain't gonna like?


My hubby just happened to be watching the Polish news and there was a piece about the shooting of the survivors after the recent plane crash, and I told him what it was about, and he said 'well, why isn't it on English news'. So, I told him that the English news was owned and they don't want us to know this stuff. He rolled his eyes and has decided he'll look it up later to find out what it's about.
Depending on how deep he looks he might be in for a bit of a surprise, though it doesn't take too much to send Hubby comfortably back to his comfort zone - bless.
:-)

starsmoonmtns
26th April 2010, 07:00
; )

I said "most' of us,,,, not all!!
What is TRUTH? Nesara = .... total BS
Peace

Teakai
26th April 2010, 08:56
; )

I said "most' of us,,,, not all!!
What is TRUTH? Nesara = .... total BS
Peace

If this is in regard to my comment Starsmoonsmtns - I didn't think it was ALL the US people, I thought it was a minority group.
So, does that mean that it is the majority of US citizens who think 911 was an inside job or not?

My giving you an example of the amount of Australian's who didn't have a clue wasn't in contradiction to your comment.

starsmoonmtns
27th April 2010, 06:42
Teakai,
I and a Lot of people feel 911 was an inside job, just as may Europeans etc., world wide..... does that mean the usa was behind it completely? IMO 'NO' ... most are dummed down, I feel the us / uk / australia are too' but maybe i should say Mossad or maybe i shouldn't..... sorry if u I caused u pain/confusion...it was never my intention ..... we are all on this planet together...like it or not.... some have better resources than we ..... it is a game for them,,, for us it is life....
regards
ps
we are beyond 911

Teakai
27th April 2010, 07:28
Teakai,
I and a Lot of people feel 911 was an inside job, just as may Europeans etc., world wide..... does that mean the usa was behind it completely? IMO 'NO' ... most are dummed down, I feel the us / uk / australia are too' but maybe i should say Mossad or maybe i shouldn't..... sorry if u I caused u pain/confusion...it was never my intention ..... we are all on this planet together...like it or not.... some have better resources than we ..... it is a game for them,,, for us it is life....
regards
ps
we are beyond 911

Hi Starsmoonmtns. - You didn't cause me any pain or offence, I think we just got our communications a bit mixed up.

I don't for a minute think the US citizens had anything to do with 911 - My opinion is that it was organised by 'the powers that be', which are global and I do think the 'enemy' was framed. But that's a whole other subject.

I do very much agree that we're dumbed down.

Barron
28th April 2010, 08:50
Hi. Folks:

For what it's worth, I am 100% convinced that NESARA is pure nonsense - at least now and for quite some time back.

I'd also place into the 'nonsense' category almost all of everything written nowadays by Christopher Story, together with 100% of all channeled information that relates to NESARA.

It's an irritating distraction which bears no relation to reality - financial or otherwise. This strong opinion is not intended to offend anyone here, but I rather think there are MUCH more important and worthwhile subjects to be discussing.

Bill, very well said, my thoughts and comments mirror your exactly here! Nesara was invented to disempower gullible "lightworkers" by making them believe that they were not financially responsible for their future and St Germain was going to manifest all this gold and wipe your debts and give you plenty of free gold etc....

There seem to be two Nesara sites, one clearly a Govt one and one that was run (is run) by "Doves". these people said that before the US election that McCainw as going to be US president - it was certain as it was rigged that way etc. well, that did not happen did it now folks?!

Forget Nesara. But do barter and do investigate local currency exchange ideas etc.

Eric J (Viking)
30th August 2010, 19:34
Update...

NESARA History - True Story

With all their power and money the bankers thought themselves to be above the law, but cracks were now appearing in their foundations. Angry Americans were beginning to fight back. A class action lawsuit was brewing which would threaten to change the balance of power.

This change began in the mid 1970’s, when the Federal Land Bank illegally foreclosed on farmers mortgages all throughout the Midwest. In each of these cases the farmers were defrauded by the banks with the approval of the Federal Reserve System. These court cases would eventually become known as the farmer claims program.

In 1978 an elderly ranch farmer in Colorado purchased a farm with loan from the Federal Land Bank; after he died the property was passed on to his son Roy Schwasinger Jr., who was a retired military general. Soon after a Federal Land Bank officer and Federal Marshall appeared on his property and informed him the bank was foreclosing on his farm and to vacate within 30 days. Without his knowledge, his deceased father signed a stipulation which reverted the property back to the Federal Land Bank in the event of the borrower’s death.

Outraged, Roy Schwasinger filed a class action lawsuit in the Denver Federal Court system. But the case didn’t go very far and the suit was dismissed from filing incorrectly. This began Roy Schwasinger’s investigation into the inner workings of the banking system. In 1982 he was given a contract by the US senate and later Supreme Court to investigate banking fraud. But because he was under a strict non-disclosure order he was not allowed to tell the media what he discovered. In the late 80s he began sharing his knowledge with others including high ranking military personnel who helped him bring about a class action lawsuit against the federal government.

The first series of these lawsuits began in the mid 1980’s when William and Shirley Baskerville of Fort Collins, Colorado were involved in a bankruptcy case with First Interstate Bank of Fort Collins; who was trying to foreclose on their farm. At a restaurant their lawyer informed them that he would no longer be able to help them and walked-off. Overhearing the conversation Roy Schwasinger offered his advice on how to appeal the case in bankruptcy court. So in 1987 they filed an appeal (Case No. 87-C-716) with the United States District Court in Colorado.

On November 3, 1988, the Denver Federal Court system ruled that indeed the banks had defrauded the Baskervilles and proceeded to reverse its bankruptcy decision. But when the foreclosed property was not returned they filed a new lawsuit. Eventually, 23 other farmers, ranchers, and Indians swindled by the banks in the same manner would join in the case.

In these cases, the banks were foreclosing on the properties using fraudulent methods such as charging exorbitant interest, illegal foreclosure, or by not crediting mortgage payments to their account as they should have but instead would steal the mortgage payments for themselves triggering foreclosure on the property. After running out of money they continued their fight without the help of lawyers. With some assistance by the Farmers Union a new lawsuit was filed against the Federal Land Bank and the Farmers Credit System.

(1) Case No. 92-C-1781

The District Court ruled in their favor and ordered the banks to return the stolen properties with help from either Federal Marshals or the National Guard. But when no payments were made, the farmers declared involuntary Chapter Seven Bankruptcy against the Federal Land Bank and the Farmers Credit System. The banks appealed their case insisting they were not a business but a federal agency therefore they were not liable to pay the damages.

So the farmer’s legal team adopted a new strategy. According to the Federal Land Bank’s 1933 charter they are not allowed to make loans directly to applicants, but instead could only back loans as a guarantor in case of default. Because the Federal Land Bank had violated this rule the farmer’s legal team was able to successfully sue the bank for damages.

Word of the lawsuit began to spread; the legal team would teach others how to fight foreclosure and to help them file lawsuits as well (Case No. 93-1308-M). Celebrities such as Willie Nelson joined in the cause and helped raise money during his “Farm Aid” concerts. Here is short clip of Willie Nelson describing in his own words the series of events leading up to the farmer claims legal case……

The Baskerville case had now become the Farmer Claims Class Action Lawsuit. Worried about the legal ramifications the government retaliated against the farmers by hitting them with either outrageous IRS fees, or by imprisoning the legal team under frivolous nonrelated charges. When the farmers realized they were being unfairly targeted, they had military generals such as General Roy Schwasinger sit in the courtroom to make sure the bribed judges would vote according to constitutional law.

The farmers now with a large team of knowledgeable people of the law behind them filed a new case to claim additional damages from the fraudulent loaning activities of the Farmers Credit System.

The government tried to settle but they had already lost many cases and were now loosing the appeals as well. More and more evidence was collected. According to the National Banking Act all banks are required to register their charters with the Federal and State Bureau of Records, but none of the banks complied, allowing the legal team to sue the Farmers Credit System. Not only was Farmers Credit System not chartered to do business with the American Banking Association, but so were other quasi government organizations such as the Federal Housing Administration, The Department of Housing and Urban Development, and even the Federal Reserve Bank.

The Farmers Claims lawsuit was thrown out of court at each level with the records purposely destroyed. So in the early 1990’s Roy Schwasinger brought the case before the United States Supreme Court. Some of the content of this case is sealed from public eyes but most of it can be viewed today.

Almost (u-nan-ah-mous-ly) unanimously the U.S. Supreme Court Justices ruled that the Farmers Union claims were indeed VALID, therefore, all property foreclosed by the Farmers Credit System was illegal and all those who were foreclosed on would have to receive damages. In addition, they ruled that the U.S. federal government and banks had defrauded the farmers, and all U.S. citizens, out of vast sums of money and property.

And furthermore, the court ruled the shocking truth that the IRS was a Puerto Rican Trust and that the Federal Reserve was unlawful, that the income tax amendment was only ratified by four states and therefore was not a legal amendment, that the IRS code was not enacted into “Positive Law”* within the Code of Federal Regulations, and how the U.S. government illegally foreclosed on farmer’s homes with help from federal agencies.

*Positive Law

Laws that have been enacted by a properly instituted and recognized branch of the government.

Irrefutable proof was presented by a retired CIA agent. He provided testimony and records of the banks illegal activities, to lead further evidence that the Farmers’ Union claims were indeed legitimate. The implications of such a decision were profound. All gold, silver, and property titles, taken by the Federal Reserve and IRS must be returned to the people.

The legal team sought assistance from a small group of benevolent visionaries, consisting of politicians, military generals, and business people who have been secretly working to restore the constitution since the mid 1950’s. Somehow within their ranks, a four star U.S. army general received “title” and “receiver” of the original 1933 United States Bankruptcy.

When the case was brought before the U.S. Supreme Court, they ruled in his favor, giving the Army General title over the United States, Inc. Legal action was then passed on to the Senate Finance Committee and Senator Sam Nunn, who was working with Roy Schwasinger. With the help of covert congressional and political pressure, President George H.W. Bush issued an Executive Order (a) on Oct. 23, 1991, which provided a provision allowing anyone who has a claim against the federal government to receive payment as long as it’s within the rules of the original format of the case.

(a) Executive Order No. 12778 Principles of Ethical Conduct for Government Officers and Employees; October 23, 1991

According to the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, all present and succeeding debts against the U.S. Treasury must be assumed by the Federal Reserve. Thus the famer’s claims legal team was able to use that executive order to not only force the Federal Reserve to pay out damages in a gold backed currency but also allow them to receive legal ownership over the bankruptcy of United States, Inc.

To collect damages the farmers legal team used an obscure attachment to the 14th amendment which most people are not aware of. After the civil war the government allowed citizens to claim a payment on anyone who suffered damages as a result of the Federal Government failing to protect its citizens from harm or damages by a foreign government. President Grant had this attachment sealed from public eyes but somehow, someone the farmer’s legal team got a hold of it.

If you listened to that carefully, it specifies damages by a foreign government. That foreign government is the corporate federal government which has been masquerading to the public as the constitutional government. Remember this goes back to the Organic Act of 1871 and the Trading with the Enemies Act of 1933, which defined all citizens as enemy combatants under the federal system known as the United States. The Justices and farmer’s legal team recognized how evil and corrupt our federal government had become and to counteract this they added some provisions in the settlement to bring the government back under control.

a. First they would have to be paid using a lawful currency, backed by gold and silver as the constitution dictates. This would eliminate inflation and gyrating economic cycles created by the Federal Reserve System.

b. Second they would be required to go back to common law instead of admiralty law under the gold fringe flags. Under common law if there is no damage or harm done then there is no violation of the law. This would eliminate millions of laws which are used to control the masses and protect corrupt politicians.

c. Lastly the IRS would have to be dismantled and replaced with a national sales tax. This is the basis of the NESARA Law.

When the legal team finally settled on a figure, each individual would receive an average of $20 million dollars payout per claim. Multiplied by a total of 336,000 claims that were filed against the U.S. Federal Government, the total payout would come out to a staggering $6.6 trillion dollars.

The U.S. Supreme Court placed a gag order on the case, struck all information from the Federal Registry, and placed all records in the Supreme Court files. Up to that point Senator Sam Nunn had kept the Baskerville Case records within his office. A settlement was agreed to out of court and the decision was sealed by Janet Reno. Because the case was sealed, claimants are not allowed to share court documents to media outlets without violating the settlement, but they can still tell others about the lawsuit. This is why you probably have not heard about this.

In 1991 Roy Schwasinger went before a senate committee to present evidence of the banks and governments criminal activity. He informed them how the Corporation of the United States was tied to the establishment of a New World Order which would bring about a fascist one world government ruled by the international bankers. So in 1992 a task force was put together consisting of over 300 retired and 35 active US military officers who strongly supported constitutional law.* This task force was responsible for investigating governmental officials, congressional officers, judges, and the Federal Reserve.

*Chief of Naval Operations, Admiral Jeremy Boorda

*General David McCloud

*Former Director of Central Intelligence, William Colby

They uncovered the common practice of bribery and extortion committed by both senators and judges. The criminal activity was so rampant that only 2 out of 535 members of congress were deemed honest. But more importantly they carried out the first ever audit of the Federal Reserve.

The Federal Reserve was used to giving orders to politicians and had no intentions of being audited. However after they were informed their offices would be raided under military gunpoint if necessary; they complied with the investigation. After reviewing their files the military officers found $800 trillion dollars sitting in accounts which should have been applied to the national debt. And contrary to federal government propaganda they also discovered that most nations had in fact owed money to the United States instead of the other way around.

These hidden trillions were then confiscated and placed into European bank accounts in order to generate the enormous funds needed to pay the farmers claims class action lawsuit, later this money would become the basis of the prosperity programs.

Despite these death blows President George H.W. Bush and the illuminati continued on with their plans of global enslavement.

In August 1992 the military officers confronted President Bush and demanded he sign agreement that he would return the United States to constitutional law and ordered him to never use the term New World Order again. Bush pretended to cooperate but secretly planned to bring about the New World Order anyway by signing an Executive Order on December 25, 1992, that would have indefinitely closed all banks giving Bush an excuse to declare martial law.

Under the chaos of martial law, Bush intended to install a new constitution which would have kept everyone currently in office in their same position for 25 years and it would have removed all rights to elect new officials. The military intervened and stopped Bush from signing that Executive order.

In 1993 members of the Supreme Court, certain members of congress and representatives from the Clinton government meet with high ranking US military officers who were demanding a return to constitutional law, reforms of the banking system, and financial redress. They agreed to create the farm claims process which would allow the legal team to set up meetings all over the country on a grass roots level to help others file claims and to educate them about the lawsuit.

A claim of harm could be made on any loan issued by a financial institution for all interest paid; foreclosures; attorney and court fees; IRS taxes or liens; real estate and property taxes; mental and emotional stress caused by the loss of property; stress related illness such as suicide and divorce; and even warrants, incarceration, and probation could also be claimed.

But the Clinton government undermined their efforts by requiring the farm claims to use a specific form designed by the government. This form imposed an administrative fee of $300 for each claim, which was later used in 1994 as a basis to arrest the leaders of the legal team including Roy Schwasinger.

The government was so afraid of what they would say during their trial in Michigan that extra steps were taken to conceal the true nature of the case. County courthouse employees were not allowed to work between Monday and Thursday during the course of the trial. And outside the courthouse, FBI agents swarmed the perimeter preventing the media and visitors from learning what was going on as well.

Harassment and retaliation by the government increased, many where sent prison or murdered while incarcerated. Despite being protected by his military personnel the army general who acquired the original 1933 Title of Bankruptcy of the United States; was imprisoned, killed, and replaced with a clone. This clone was then used as a decoy to prevent any further claims from being filed.

During the first Clinton administration the military delayed many of Clinton’s federal appointments until they were sure these individuals would help restore constitutional law. One such individual who promised to bring about the necessary changes was Attorney General Janet Reno.

In agreement with the Supreme Court ruling on June 3, 1993, Janet Reno ordered the Delta Force and Navy Seals to Switzerland, England, and Israel to recapture trillions of dollars of gold stolen by the Federal Reserve System from the strategic gold reserves. These nations cooperated with the raid because they were promised their debts owed to the United States would be canceled and because the people who stole the money from the United States also stole money from their nations as well.

This bullion is to be used for the new currency backed by precious metals. It’s now safely stockpiled at the Norad Complex at Colorado Springs, Colorado and four other repositories. Janet Reno’s action so enraged the powers-that-be, that it resulted in her death. She was then replaced with a clone and it was this creature that was responsible for covering-up the various Clinton scandals.

To keep the Secretary of the U.S. Treasury Robert Rubin in line, he too was also cloned. For the remainder of their term in office both Reno and Rubin received their salaries from the International Monetary Fund as foreign agents and not from the U.S. Treasury. Despite these actions the legal team continued on with their fight while managing to avoid bloodshed and a major revolution.

After 1993 the farmer claims process name was changed to Bank Claims. Between 1993 and 1996, the U.S. Supreme Court required U.S. citizens to file “Bank Claims” to collect damages paid by the U.S. Treasury Department. This process CLOSED in 1996.

During this time the U.S. Supreme Court assigned one or more Justices to monitor the progress of the rulings. They enlisted help of experts in economics, monetary systems, banking, constitutional government and law, and many other related areas. These justices built coalitions of support and assistance with thousands of people worldwide; known as 'White Knights”. The term 'White Knights' was borrowed from the world of big business. It refers to a vulnerable company that is rescued by a corporation or a wealthy person from a hostile takeover.

To implement the required changes, the five Justices spent years negotiating how the reformations would occur. Eventually they settled on certain agreements, also known as 'Accords', with the U.S. government, the Federal Reserve Bank owners, the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, and with numerous other countries including the United Kingdom and countries of the Euro Zone. Because these U.S. banking reformations will impact the entire world; the IMF, World Bank, and other countries had to be involved. The reformations require that the Federal Reserve be absorbed by the U.S. Treasury Department and the banks' fraudulent activities must be stopped and payment must be made for past harm.

In 1998, the military generals who originally participated in the famer’s claim process realized that the US Supreme Court justices had no intentions of implementing the 'Accords.' So they decided the only way to implement the reformations was through a law passed by congress. In 1999 a 75 page document known as the National Economic Security and Reformation Act (NESARA) was submitted to congress where it sat with little action for almost a year.

Late one evening on March 9, 2000, a written quorum call was hand-delivered by Delta Force and Navy SEALs to 15 members of the US Senate and the US House who were sponsors and co-sponsors of NESARA. They were immediately escorted by the Delta Force and Navy SEALs to their respective voting chambers where they passed the National Economic Security and Reformation Act.

These 15 members of congress were the only people lawfully allowed to hold office in accordance with the original 13th amendment. Remember British soldiers destroyed copies of the Titles of Nobility Amendment (TONA) in the war of 1812 because it prevented anyone who had ties to the crown of England from holding public office.

NESARA is the most ground breaking reformation to sweep not only this country but our planet in its entire history. The act does away with the Federal Reserve Bank, the IRS, the shadow government, and much more.

NESARA implements the following changes:

1. Zeros out all credit card, mortgage, and other bank debt due to illegal banking and government activities. This is the Federal Reserve’s worst nightmare, a “jubilee” or a forgiveness of debt.

2. Abolishes the income tax

3. Abolishes the IRS. Employees of the IRS will be transferred into the US Treasury national sales tax area.

4. Creates a 14% flat rate non-essential 'new items only' sales tax revenue for the government. In other words food and medicine will not be taxed; nor will used items such as old homes.

5. Increases benefits to senior citizens

6. Returns Constitutional Law to all courts and legal matters.

7. Reinstates the original Title of Nobility amendment. Hundreds of thousands of Americans under the control of foreign powers will lose their citizenship, be deported to other countries, and barred from reentry for the remainder of their life. And millions of people will soon discover their college degrees are now worthless paper.

8. Establishes new Presidential and Congressional elections within 120 days after NESARA's announcement. The intern government will cancel all “National Emergencies” and return us back to constitutional law.

9. Monitors elections and prevents illegal election activities of special interest groups.

10. Creates a new U.S. Treasury, 'rainbow currency,' backed by gold, silver, and platinum precious metals, ending the bankruptcy of the United States initiated by Franklin Roosevelt in 1933.

11. Forbids the sale of American birth certificate records as chattel property bonds by the US Department of Transportation.

12. Initiates new U.S. Treasury Bank System in alignment with Constitutional Law

13. Eliminates the Federal Reserve System. During the transition period the Federal Reserve will be allowed to operate side by side of the U.S. treasury for one year in order to remove all Federal Reserve notes from the money supply.

14. Restores financial privacy

15. Retrains all judges and attorneys in Constitutional Law

16. Ceases all aggressive, U.S. government military actions worldwide

17. Establishes peace throughout the world

18. Releases enormous sums of money for humanitarian purposes

19. Enables the release of over 6,000 patents of suppressed technologies that are being withheld from the public under the guise of national security, including free energy devices, antigravity, and sonic healing machines.

Because President Clinton’s clone had no interest in signing NESARA into law on October 10, 2000; under orders from U.S. military generals the elite Naval Seals and Delta Force stormed the White House and under gunpoint forced Bill Clinton to sign NESARA. During this time Secret Service and White House security personnel were ordered to stand down, disarmed, and allowed to witness this event under a gag order.

From its very inception Bush Sr., the corporate government, major bank houses, and the Carlyle group have opposed NESARA. To maintain secrecy, the case details and the docket number were sealed and revised within the official congressional registry, to reflect a commemorative coin and then again it was revised even more recently. This is why there are no public Congressional Records and why a search for this law will not yield the correct details until after the reformations are made public.

You probably never heard of this law due to an extremely strict gag order placed upon politicians, media personnel, and bank officers. Even though Alex Jones or Ron Paul will not tell you about it, the law is still valid.

And members of congress will not tell us any of this because they have been ordered by the U.S. Supreme Court Justices to 'deny' the existence of NESARA or face charges of treason punishable by death. Some members of Congress have actually been charged with 'obstruction.' When Minnesota Senator Paul Wellstone was about to break the gag order, but before he could, his small passenger plane crashed killing his wife, daughter, and himself.

If fear isn’t enough to keep congress in line, money is. The CIA routinely bribes senators with stolen loot from the bank roll programs. Every senator has been bribed with a minimum of $200 million dollars deposited in a Bank of America account in Canada. You will never hear the media networks report about NESARA. To maintain silence, major news networks such as CNN are paid in the tune of $2 billion dollars annually. Some of this loot is funneled by the Mormon Church in Utah through Senator Orin Hatch’s office and Bank of America.

Not only is congress bribed but the entire Joint Chiefs of Staff and upper tier of the government including the president receives these payments as well. Only the Provost Marshall has the lawful authority to arrest these individuals, but sadly he won’t do his job either. It seems the United State military is full of pencil pushing politicians who care more about advancement then doing their job.

And not surprisingly, much disinformation about NESARA can be found on the internet. Prominent nay-sayers include quatloos.com, which is rumored to be a CIA front; nesara.org which is maintained by the Bush family; Sherry Shriner; and various Internet channelers receiving their messages from telepathic spooks have all contributed to the confusion.

Even the information on Wikipedia is in error. Wikipedia gives you the history of CIA agent Harvey Barnard’s NESARA law. If you look closely, this law stands for National Economic Stabilization and Recovery Act, which would have made reforms to the economy and replace the income tax with a national sales tax. This law was rejected by congress in the 1990’s. But there is little mention of the National Economic Security and Reformation Act on Wikipedia or its ramifications.

September 11, 2001

The next step is to announce NESARA to the world, but it’s not an easy task to do. Many powerful groups have tried to prevent the implementation of NESARA.

The NESARA law requires that at least once a year, an effort be made to announce the law to the public. Three current US Supreme Court judges control the committee in charge of NESARA’s announcement. These Judges have used their overall authority to secretly sabotage NESARA’s announcement.

In 2001 after much negotiation the Supreme Court justices ordered the current Congress to pass resolutions 'approving' NESARA. This took place on September 9, 2001, eighteen months after NESARA became law. On September 10, 2001, George Bush Sr. moved into the White house to steer his son on how to block the announcement. The next day, on September 11, 2001, at 10 am Eastern Daylight Time, Alan Greenspan was scheduled to announce the new US Treasury Bank system, debt forgiveness for all U.S. citizens, and abolishment of the IRS as the first part of the public announcements of NESARA.

Just before the announcement at 9 am, Bush Sr. ordered the demolition of World Trade Center to stop the international banking computers on floors one and two, in the North Tower from initiating the new U.S. Treasury Bank system. Explosives in the World Trade Center were planted by both CIA and Mossad operatives and detonated remotely in Building 7 which was demolished later that day in order to cover-up their crime.

Remote pilot technology was used in a flyover event to deliver a payload of explosives into the Pentagon at the exact location of the White Knights in their new Naval Command Center who were coordinating activities supporting NESARA's implementation nationwide. With the announcement of NESARA stopped dead in its tracks, George Bush Sr. decapitated any hopes of returning the government back to the people

August 29, 2010

james_rink@yahoo.com

viking

Gridkeeper
31st August 2010, 16:33
I know alot of people think this is a load of mumbo jumbo...But???

Were we on the verge of Nasara being disclosed prior to 911??

Would this be the start of a New Paradigm...

Would it shape our world and raise humanty...imagine!!

quote...
"This is why the opposition ordered the September 11, 2001 attacks on the WTC, the Pentagon, and the Pennsylvania location. The opposition knew that the final word had been given notifying the networks to get ready to broadcast NESARA's announcement. This meant the end of their power was mere hours away. The opposition also planned to try to steal the funds of these prosperity programs for their own uses. In addition, they intended to try to start a war [the Afghanistan war was planned and predicted earlier in the year by the Bush Administration]. All these things were part of why the opposition ordered the Sept 11 attacks. Power and greed are the opposition's driving motives; unfortunately for them, they sealed their fates totally on September 11, 2001. [No airliner hit the Pentagon, it was a Cruise missile or F16 fighter loaded with explosives and remote controlled to take out the Operations Centre for NESARA's announcement. The Pennsylvania airliner hit its target, an underground facility connected with NESARA. No Arab hijackers were on the passenger lists. The mobile phone "conversations" were false. These phones do not operate above 1000 feet! It has been shown that the CIA planned and carried out the operations, including imploding the WTC towers with explosives, and all this will come out in future disclosures to the public."

further interesting reading and full article...
http://people.aapt.net.au/~galactac/nesara.htm

viking

I used to follow nesara a few years ago and gave up on it 'til recently when I was shown some original documents that had been signed by a good friend of mine. Now I believe it to be true and also believe it was tied into the Twin Towers. The disinformation put out regarding Nesara is astonishing and huge.

Eric J (Viking)
31st August 2010, 18:58
I used to follow nesara a few years ago and gave up on it 'til recently when I was shown some original documents that had been signed by a good friend of mine. Now I believe it to be true and also believe it was tied into the Twin Towers. The disinformation put out regarding Nesara is astonishing and huge.

Hey thanks Gridkeeper...any chance of a view of the original docs...Your friend can black out anything that would cause embarasment to him....just a thought!! :confused:

I have read several sources that suggest a connection with the Twin Towers!!!

viking

shiva777
31st August 2010, 19:53
NESARA will be announced when it is no longer viable to be implementede...and no longer needed

Eric J (Viking)
14th September 2010, 10:45
Dearest NESARA Supporters,

In keeping with the Dove Of Oneness’ work, we at the NTAT would like to introduce our NEW NESARA Website:

NEW HOME FOR NESARA.US

(http://mysite.verizon.net/resocgea/nesara.us/ is the actual URL and was the quickest way for us to keep the information out there).

This temporary website is meant for research and history purposes only. It has some resemblance of Dove’s website at NESARA.US, and carries the same information that people have come to rely on. You will find The History, The Benefits, Confirmations, Links,(straight from NESARA.US), including a page where brief updates will be posted from time to time. It remains critically important that people get the most truthful information about NESARA. As you all know Dove was very much about truth, and through her inexorable research, she alone found out the true status of NESARA. Through her relentless drive she reached out, spoke, corresponded and validated every contact, phone conversation and letter. She uncovered an immense puzzle of data and then put it together. She was relentless when she was hot on a trail! Dove always said you’ve got to take care of your brain and it is apparent she walked her talk in that regard. We, at the NTAT, were very fortunate to have had such a great leader!

That is why I have immortalized her reports at the World Peace Improvements Group that was created in honor of Shaini Goodwin, the Dove Of Oneness. You can click on the Dove Icon at the website to get to this group or go here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WorldPeaceImprovements/ . The only requirement is that you join the group. You will then have access to all of her reports from 2002-2010, photos taken from NESARA.US, more Links, and Official NESARA Flyers that you can print to hand out! On occasion I send out more in depth reports that very much resemble our NTAT Reports we used to send out.

It has been a tremendous undertaking for the NTAT who have contributed time and money to keep this thread of information going. Although none of us claim to be Dove, we do claim our continued commitment to NESARA. We do claim, had it not been for the Dove of Oneness, we would not have known about a tremendous amount of information, that, like it or not, held more truth than not. In addition, we most certainly would not have had the contacts, the audio tapes, video tapes, letters, and rare copies of court proceedings, along with firsthand knowledge of the trail to NESARA! As years passed, Dove made certain we maintained a “tangible and workable” path, right now, in this reality. This makes our job a bit easier since we do not possess the special skills Dove had at communicating with ET’s. It is our contention that it was ultimately destined and continues to remain - a “human” responsibility to successfully announce NESARA. YOU CAN HELP, go here to find out how: The Key To NESARA

Having said that, the NTAT want to thank you for taking the time to check out the new NESARA website and perhaps even join the World Peace Improvements Group. Whatever you do, hold NESARA in the brightest of light and let it shine, through you, the hope it claims. Tell everyone about NESARA, and you too will continue to be a co-creator in its manifestation.

NESARA NOW!

NESARA FOREVER!

Sincerely,

Tami Terusa

NTAT Region 1 Director

US & Canada

worldpeaceimprovements@yahoo.com

viking