Tarka the Duck
20th March 2012, 09:10
This is obviously for those who are interested...:rolleyes:
Tony and I were talking things through over a coffee today a few days ago, and I'd like to share this with you.
This what he said:
I lost heart for a moment.
Not with any individual: facing your demons is not about another person.
After a combination of mild name-calling, misdirection and off-topic comments again a sudden feeling of utter pointlessness washed over me. Nothing was actually being discussed: it seemed that everything was being brought down to a level of subjectivity partiality.
My problem is that I just love discussing the details, and subtle nuances;)
People coming on a thread and not engaging in the topic but saying it's crap seems pointless, and drags the discussion down the drain. If they are not interested, why don't they go somewhere else? That is very curious!
I was trying to sort things out intellectually, and I knew that wasn't needed at that particular moment.
The heart would have brought love and harmony and humour into the situation, and dissolved the seeming onslaught.
But there was such an overwhelming desire to communicate that one moves too far into the other person's territory. That was not necessary.
Space was filled up with trying too hard.
There was an ignoring of the natural balance.
When we understand the balance between heart and mind, it is universal.
No one disagrees and it all melts into silence.
Several posts earlier, I had put on a video of the Heart Sutra, and wrote,”Just melt”.
That is what I should have done!
Being prepared to be vulnerable means there is nothing to defend.
I had the conceptual idea of a smile, but at that moment, I wasn't actually smiling.
It all seemed pointless.
There was no generosity: I was trying too hard.
The heart cries.
The mind laughs.
We should share laughter and tears.
When we talk about the theory of heart and mind, it is a very different matter from the actual experience. The mind is describing what the heart knows already: this is related to the two truths of consciousness and essential essence. When they are in balance, there is a feeling of loving kindness. We can always experience an imbalance – too much of one or the other – and maybe that is the only conflict in our lives...what we know and what we think.
Anything can happen in life that can redress this balance – perhaps something very small: for me, it was hearing Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty while driving along the M42 motorway...
The Mind competes - the Heart does not.
A bigger picture:
When I write, I am writing from what is actually being experienced. And it may be slightly different from a textbook definition. I had hoped it might help others because it is in ordinary language, but because several members seemed strongly opposed to the content, I was concerned that I had overstepped the mark. I didn't want to draw others into such a pointless battle that seemed to be emerging.
Sometimes, one has to totally let go of everything in order to truly review.
I'll be having a chat with my root teacher at the weekend, and will take the opportunity to talk things through with him. The comments I've received about “falling off the path” and “have you gone or haven't you?” unfortunately show an intense lack of understanding: it is, of course, up to me how and when I leave – or return... or how I express!
I wouldn't dream of telling someone else how they should be.
Tony and I were talking things through over a coffee today a few days ago, and I'd like to share this with you.
This what he said:
I lost heart for a moment.
Not with any individual: facing your demons is not about another person.
After a combination of mild name-calling, misdirection and off-topic comments again a sudden feeling of utter pointlessness washed over me. Nothing was actually being discussed: it seemed that everything was being brought down to a level of subjectivity partiality.
My problem is that I just love discussing the details, and subtle nuances;)
People coming on a thread and not engaging in the topic but saying it's crap seems pointless, and drags the discussion down the drain. If they are not interested, why don't they go somewhere else? That is very curious!
I was trying to sort things out intellectually, and I knew that wasn't needed at that particular moment.
The heart would have brought love and harmony and humour into the situation, and dissolved the seeming onslaught.
But there was such an overwhelming desire to communicate that one moves too far into the other person's territory. That was not necessary.
Space was filled up with trying too hard.
There was an ignoring of the natural balance.
When we understand the balance between heart and mind, it is universal.
No one disagrees and it all melts into silence.
Several posts earlier, I had put on a video of the Heart Sutra, and wrote,”Just melt”.
That is what I should have done!
Being prepared to be vulnerable means there is nothing to defend.
I had the conceptual idea of a smile, but at that moment, I wasn't actually smiling.
It all seemed pointless.
There was no generosity: I was trying too hard.
The heart cries.
The mind laughs.
We should share laughter and tears.
When we talk about the theory of heart and mind, it is a very different matter from the actual experience. The mind is describing what the heart knows already: this is related to the two truths of consciousness and essential essence. When they are in balance, there is a feeling of loving kindness. We can always experience an imbalance – too much of one or the other – and maybe that is the only conflict in our lives...what we know and what we think.
Anything can happen in life that can redress this balance – perhaps something very small: for me, it was hearing Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty while driving along the M42 motorway...
The Mind competes - the Heart does not.
A bigger picture:
When I write, I am writing from what is actually being experienced. And it may be slightly different from a textbook definition. I had hoped it might help others because it is in ordinary language, but because several members seemed strongly opposed to the content, I was concerned that I had overstepped the mark. I didn't want to draw others into such a pointless battle that seemed to be emerging.
Sometimes, one has to totally let go of everything in order to truly review.
I'll be having a chat with my root teacher at the weekend, and will take the opportunity to talk things through with him. The comments I've received about “falling off the path” and “have you gone or haven't you?” unfortunately show an intense lack of understanding: it is, of course, up to me how and when I leave – or return... or how I express!
I wouldn't dream of telling someone else how they should be.