David Wilcock "DIVINE INTERVENTION: Section I -- Defeating Financial Tyranny"

[A Simple Human]

If this comes about, I mean truely comes about... I think we will have a revolution on our hands, I don't want blood shed but... I've got a feeling we won't get through this it without it.

Who currently holds in their posession the original constitution document(s)? That was a retorical question to be sure. I'd like to know who is supposed to be arresting these people and how they think they are going to get close enough to complete multiple (how many ten, twenty, one hundred) arrests? Will they be arresting the President, the ex president, or people in Congress? Will they attempt to arrest the heads of the Federal Reserve, or the IRS (we can hope)?

Is this not a declaration of revolution? Or, will the U.S. end up divided?

I'm sorry, I hate to be a party pooper, and I think many believe I am, considering my recent posts... well, maybe I am. I'm just calling it as I see it. Americans have been pushed to the brink on several occasions in the recent past. However, we've been too busy fighting not just one war but at least two and involved in at least three uprisings, if not more. I also believe our government has been preparing to fight on soverign soil for quite some time.

@ sygh,

I do not think you are being a party pooper. All questions are valid; although, I feel too big a deal is being made about the veracity of the "Drake" report. He may be wrong, or he may be right. I feel far too many people are looking for prophets. Take every alternative community messenger's words with a grain of salt because practically all have been incorrect about something at one time or another. I feel our civilization is on the brink of a massive paradigm shift. That does not mean that there will not be growing pains experienced in the process. In fact, usually when the greatest pressure is applied, the greatest degree of change occurs. Perhaps we collectively need such intense stress in order to experience such a dramatic paradigm shift.

I believe that it is important for everyone to become introspective at this time. We must reconcile our fears within ourselves first, before we are truly prepared to face a change of such tremendous magnitude. I would like to believe that the majority of service men and women are pure of heart, that they will uphold the constitution, and that they understand that protecting innocent civilians is paramount to following orders from a corrupt commanding officer. If this is not so, and they do not arrest the Cabal members, and instead begin confiscating weapons, rounding up civilians, and murdering people...so what?! What is death other than a transition anyway? Obviously a paradigm shift with zero bloodshed is ideal, however, unrealistic. Our civilization has been barbaric for 10s of thousands of years (perhaps longer), and I do not see all Cabal members simply giving up without a fight, especially not after planning for such an extensive amount of time. Perhaps one last bloody revolution (although I'm not advocating it!) is what is needed to finally wake up every last human being on the planet. Consider the following rhetorical questions:

Is existence on this planet so important to me that I am willing to give up my sovereignty, have my possessions taken from me, be forcefully removed from my home, watch my loved ones be physically, mentally, or emotionally abused, become enslaved by an uncompassionate group of sociopaths, be monitored against my will 24/7, and/or be frequently tortured, potentially to death?

or

Is my freedom so important to me that I am willing to positively change myself, sacrifice my time, energy, and desires by helping others, assist my family, neighbors, and local community if need be, protect another at the risk of losing my own life, lie, cheat, steal, kill, and/or die for it?

"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!" - Patrick Henry (March 23, 1775), A.S.H. (April 5, 2012)

[Excerpt from another post of mine] To be prepared for change, one must be proactive and anticipate the change. This does not mean to dwell, night and day, on every potential change and all the potential outcomes. This does not mean to constantly live in fear. Everyone must simply acknowledge that a significant change (whatever it is) is on the horizon, prepare themselves physically, mentally, and emotionally for it, and be at peace with it. It is imperative to be adaptable. As Bruce Lee suggested, we must be like water.

"Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find a way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves.

Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee

Relax and be water, my friend,

A.S.H.

[Alie]

I am in agreement that we MUST become extremely strong --- mentally, emotionally, spiritually (the physical? well I'm working on that). So in that regards it is totally up to the individual. When it is implied that we're looking for a "prophet", at least for me, it's true. I AM looking for a guiding light.

When I have brought this up before, there were some on this forum who disagreed with the fact I'm looking to others rather than myself for leadership/guidance. What they assumed was that I am weak. Rather, I am a champion all by myself, but believe that a group of champions can accomplish much.

I just don't know how football/basketball teams win without a coach; a boat reaches its destination without a captain; Bojangles chicken is mass produced without an organizational plan/person in charge. For me it's called creating order out of mass chaos. Efficient use of resources. Strategic planning to reach a goal.

So I am not ashamed to want direction (a clear call) in this extremely important time. On this forum there are several folks to whom my spirit has connected with and collectively are helping me out -- for that I'm very grateful.

[steveofengland]

Having not been able to listen to the whol interview, and still waiting for a transcript, although this sounds like a viable solution for you guys on the other side of the pond. But what about here in the UK where our military swears its Allegiance to the monarchy?

[Billy]

Just found this http://pathwaytoascension.wordpress.com/2012/03/30/the-pentagon-wants-this-information-to-go-viral/

The Original 13th Amendment http://www.amendment-13.org/

Mentioned in the interview

“If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive, or retain any title of nobility or honour, or shall without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension. office, or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince, or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them.”

Word is getting out there.

[karelia]

Having not been able to listen to the whol interview, and still waiting for a transcript, although this sounds like a viable solution for you guys on the other side of the pond. But what about here in the UK where our military swears its Allegiance to the monarchy?

I'm nowhere near an authority on this subject, but my understanding is the Lawful Rebellion here in the UK. Basically, if the monarchy is found to no longer act in the way that is best for the people and the land, a lawful rebellion is initiated until the monarchy changes the stance, and a serf becomes a freeman of the land.

[modwiz]

Just found this http://pathwaytoascension.wordpress.com/2012/03/30/the-pentagon-wants-this-information-to-go-viral/

The Original 13th Amendment http://www.amendment-13.org/

Mentioned in the interview

“If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive, or retain any title of nobility or honour, or shall without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension. office, or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince, or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them.”

Word is getting out there.

This is very interesting as how it may apply to attorneys who are often conflated with lawyers. Since being a member of the BAR, which is an acronym for British Accredited Registry, makes one part of an organization that is foreign, would make these persons not citizens of the United States by the definition of the 13th Amendment. Bad for them, but not for us. Any system complicated to need their services is not good for common people and we are better off without it. No offense to attorneys. An honest living will have to be found. Again, I speak to the system and not necessarily the particulars. Barrister and the word bar have an association as well, but it is the acronym of the association that attorneys receive their license and powers from that is being addressed here.

There is also the matter of a bar within the court delineating a certain area. The purpose of this post though is to just bring up the point that retaining membership and license from the BAR, might automatically revoke ones citizenship, here is the USA.

Here are some interesting definitions, often conflated, that some might find worthy of being acquainted with:

Solicitor -- one who petitions (initiates) for another in a court

Counselor -- one who advises another concerning a court matter

Lawyer -- [see counselor] learned in the law to advise in a court

Barrister -- one who is privileged to plead at the bar

Advocate -- one who pleads within the bar for a defendant

Attorney -- one who transfers or assigns, within the bar, another's rights and property acting on behalf of the ruling crown (government)

I look forward to a freer future. Let the contrarians see the glass half full.

This site was the source of my information and worth a look.http://www.barefootsworld.net/sui_juris/hiding_behind_bar.html

Bottom line. Never use an attorney. They cannot represent you, only the state. They are not lawyers, in the true sense of the word ,but usurpers of that profession. Another form of parasite in the fauna of the English Admiralty corporate system.

[EnergyGardener]

Having not been able to listen to the whol interview, and still waiting for a transcript, although this sounds like a viable solution for you guys on the other side of the pond. But what about here in the UK where our military swears its Allegiance to the monarchy?

I'm nowhere near an authority on this subject, but my understanding is the Lawful Rebellion here in the UK. Basically, if the monarchy is found to no longer act in the way that is best for the people and the land, a lawful rebellion is initiated until the monarchy changes the stance, and a serf becomes a freeman of the land.

The CABAL three-headed Beast has/had the Financial Head in London, the Military Head in Washington and the Religious Head in Rome. I believe you can appreciate the importance of what will follow in London and Rome after US / Washington sovereignty is restored; it could be near simultaneous.

My greater concern: We must try to appreciate the potential anger and reaction of the masses when they realize the depth of the darkness our so-called leaders were engaged toward our ignorance, poverty, disease, wars, enslavement and planned for mass executions. We must think ahead what we can do to keep them calm and more focused on creating a wonderful life without them. We have all witnessed how destructive people can be upon the celebration of a simple sporting event... we must keep needless destruction from happening, even in celebration. More thought and planning must be given to this on our end; though likely a key element of the Pentagon's Sacred Brass planning for presence and constant notices of: "There Will Be No Tolerance for Harm to Any Persons and Destruction of Private and Public Property!"

[karelia]

The CABAL three-headed Beast has/had the Financial Head in London, the Military Head in Washington and the Religious Head in Rome. I believe you can appreciate the importance of what will follow in London and Rome after US / Washington sovereignty is restored; it could be near simultaneous.

I agree. I have a feeling that Germany will play some role as well, though I can't quite form eloquent thoughts about it yet.


My greater concern: We must try to appreciate the potential anger and reaction of the masses when they realize the depth of the darkness our so-called leaders were engaged toward our ignorance, poverty, disease, wars, enslavement and planned for mass executions. We must think ahead what we can do to keep them calm and more focused on creating a wonderful life without them. We have all witnessed how destructive people can be upon the celebration of a simple sporting event... we must keep needless destruction from happening, even in celebration. More thought and planning must be given to this on our end; though likely a key element of the Pentagon's Sacred Brass planning for presence and constant notices of: "There Will Be No Tolerance for Destruction of Private or Public Property!"

Agreed! Perhaps we could utilise this forum to share ideas? I've been thinking about the reaction of people when the truth comes out, and to be honest, one of my worries is that a lot of folks will give in to anger and become destructive, more so in the US than here in Europe because there are more sleepsheep there than here...

[modwiz]

The CABAL three-headed Beast has/had the Financial Head in London, the Military Head in Washington and the Religious Head in Rome. I believe you can appreciate the importance of what will follow in London and Rome after US / Washington sovereignty is restored; it could be near simultaneous.

I agree. I have a feeling that Germany will play some role as well, though I can't quite form eloquent thoughts about it yet.


My greater concern: We must try to appreciate the potential anger and reaction of the masses when they realize the depth of the darkness our so-called leaders were engaged toward our ignorance, poverty, disease, wars, enslavement and planned for mass executions. We must think ahead what we can do to keep them calm and more focused on creating a wonderful life without them. We have all witnessed how destructive people can be upon the celebration of a simple sporting event... we must keep needless destruction from happening, even in celebration. More thought and planning must be given to this on our end; though likely a key element of the Pentagon's Sacred Brass planning for presence and constant notices of: "There Will Be No Tolerance for Destruction of Private or Public Property!"

Agreed! Perhaps we could utilise this forum to share ideas? I've been thinking about the reaction of people when the truth comes out, and to be honest, one of my worries is that a lot of folks will give in to anger and become destructive, more so in the US than here in Europe because there are more sleepsheep there than here...

Germany is a once former country of greatness destroyed by bankers and history books. Few know the real history of the world wars and such information is only now beginning to see the light of day, thanks to the will, the times and the internet. I would love to see the dignity of the German nation and people restored.

[felixq78]

Many references to ET interventions but that's all there is, no one has outlined actual events DETAILS who, what and where ! Which military attacks were stopped by whom and where. Without actual details it's all BS to me.

[felixq78]

I don't think that he was calling those who disagree with him, "ego strokers" That criticism was aimed at those who know the facts but are too lazy to act on them. I've listened to the interview four times and I didn't interpret that comment the way you did.

[foreverfan]

No need to vacate the premises.

No need to change your underwear.

Everything is under control.

You have aces in the hole: friendly reptoids, free energy, scaler weapons, mountains of gold...and most of all, the sheeple people accept their lot in life. Hell, the sheeple people's neurons are so damaged that they don't even fire in-sequence any more. Plan? Strategy? Ha! Any little insurrection attempt will last 15 minutes, tops...and the only blood flowing won't be blue. All the brave little sheelpe people soldiers will be eliminated, the Department of Homeland Security will handle everything with the 400 million rounds of ammo they just bought, creating a macabre spectacle that will imprint a level and degree of fear so intense and so deeply into the rest of the sheeple people's DNA that they won't be able to look an oligarch in the eye without pissing themselves.

Golden Age - schmolden age. Bring on the Hunger Games! Champagne for everyone! (everyone at the apex of the Pyramid, that is.)
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Dennis

Hey Dennis... This would make a great song. Maybe you can write one.

[EnergyGardener]

Many references to ET interventions but that's all there is, no one has outlined actual events DETAILS who, what and where ! Which military attacks were stopped by whom and where. Without actual details it's all BS to me.

felixq78, I am sure the DETAILS are provided on a "Need to Know Basis."

However, I do share your frustration. But take comfort in the outward signs that good things are being accomplished: War with Iran has been prevented, there have been mass resignations, there have been many unexplained and misreported earthquakes, the planets and stars have never glowed so bright and flashed colors like they are now, we are 6 weeks ahead of the normal climate weather where I live (Pole Shift?), and the biggest reason of all: Too many people have awakened and are "NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!"

What is "IT"? Their BS.

felixq78, consider the following motto derived from John F. Kennedy's Inaugural Address speech, January 20, 1961:

Ask not what ET/ED can do for you (specifically, calling any news of their help BS)— ask what you can do for your fellow humans.

[Mozart]

Bottom line. Never use an attorney. They cannot represent you, only the state. They are not lawyers, in the true sense of the word ,but usurpers of that profession. Another form of parasite in the fauna of the English Admiralty corporate system.


Outstanding post, Modwiz!

I fully concur with everything that you said in this post and that there is, indeed, a big difference between a Title-of-Nobility-bearing Attorney and a learned man of Law/legal matters ... a lawyer.

I want to add to this with this comment:

The realm of "Law" = Substantive Law, Common Law and Organic Constitution of 1787, as Lawfully Amended.

The realm of anything "legal" = color of law; the UCC Code; Maritime/Admiralty "laws"; corporate, legal-fiction "laws"; codes, ordinances, regulations, statutes, etc.

Too many people get those two terms -- "Law" and "legal" -- mixed up.

And your current avatar, Modwiz, totally cracks me up.

[YvonneG]

Freedomreigns.us (http://freedomreigns.us) has a show today a 1 EST, Drake and Teri will be there to update and answer questions. Why not call in and ask your question and misgivings to them? As I said in another post, I know who Teri and her background, and should would never be involved in this openly where it not the real deal.

They also have a show on sunday at 6 est, in case today doesn't work.

I have a confession to make, the only reason I delved into the awareness of the constitution is because I have a cousin who studied it since he was 12 and who in the 90' along with his daughter freed 100's who were wrongly accused or where the city/county wanted to steal their homes with code enforcement violation fines. He was so good at it and trained others around the country to do the same that the Clinton adminstration spent millions to go after him and his daughter. They spent 11 years in prison but not before his daugther had brain surgery and died on Feb 14th after talking to her mother, who was not allowed to see her, and telling her they had not given her the medications she needed.

[modwiz]

Bottom line. Never use an attorney. They cannot represent you, only the state. They are not lawyers, in the true sense of the word ,but usurpers of that profession. Another form of parasite in the fauna of the English Admiralty corporate system.


Outstanding post, Modwiz!

I fully concur with everything that you said in this post and that there is, indeed, a big difference between a Title-of-Nobility-bearing Attorney and a learned man of Law/legal matters ... a lawyer.

I want to add to this with this comment:

The realm of "Law" = Substantive Law, Common Law and Organic Constitution of 1787, as Lawfully Amended.

The realm of anything "legal" = color of law; the UCC Code; Maritime/Admiralty "laws"; corporate, legal-fiction "laws"; codes, ordinances, regulations, statutes, etc.

Too many people get those two terms -- "Law" and "legal" -- mixed up.

And your current avatar, Modwiz, totally cracks me up.

Mozart, I want you to know that I think this thread, the one you started and the one about Israel/Iran love hold the most importance and meaning here at the forum right now. At the heart of these threads are forces that are shaping our collective destinies. And that is no small matter.

[DreamsInDigital]

Felix,

In some/most instances revealing such details (order of battle information) is extremely dangerous for the ET/EDs pulling those maneuvers off, for those they are in direct contact with as well, or otherwise are only verifiable through contacting highly cleared military and intelligence sources. I hope you can understand and respect this. Also you might want to check out www.johnkettler.com , the guy is in direct telepathic contact with multiple ET/EDs on a daily basis and provides fairly detailed reports/blogs every few days.

[sdv]

Mozart, first, I did not say that the number of resignations was ONLY due to corporate burnout (although corporate burnout will increase in stressful times).

Do you understand what the purpose of the ICJ is? It is NOT there to protect and uphold international law. It's purpose is twofold:
1. To settle disputes between sovereign nations. The USA is one of the few countries who does not see itself as bound by any ruling by the ICJ in this regard.
2. To give advisory opinions when asked to do so by recognised organisations (and there is aist of these on the ICJ website).

The ICJ does NOT make or protect law - this is not it's purpose. It's purpose is to settle disputes between sovereign. There is no dispute between the USA and the thirteen colonies, and until there is, the ICJ has no jurisdiction over this matter at all.

I am not disputing that the thirteen original colonies have the right to declare themselves sovereign nations, and that the ICJ will validate this as legal under international law if the USA should dispute such declarations. If you read through the two cases of sovereignty that have gone to the ICJ (re. Kosovo and Palestine) you will see that the 13 original colonies probably do have a right to declare themselves independent sovereign nations (this has already been established by the ICJ in the Kosovo case).

There is no such thing as a notification process with the ICJ in this matter. There are no protocols of the ICJ for such paperwork. There has been no public declaration made by these thirteen states.

Drake is either lacking in understanding of what the ICJ is and how it operates, or is counting on all you gullible folks not understanding.

[Sidney]

I have not caught up on this whole thread yet, but my opinion is Drake is not jim mars. I listened to a few Mars interviews, right next to this Drake interview. Not the same. Similar, but not him.

[YvonneG]

Drake will be on Freedom Reigns Radio show at 1pm est right now: here is the direct link to the show http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/04/05/jim-duensingfreedom-reigns (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/04/05/jim-duensingfreedom-reigns) Good place to ask questions...directly from Drake and Teri.

[Eram]

Hi People,

I've been reading the Section I of DIVINE INTERVENTION from David Wilcock and I also listened to the first part of the 'Drake' interview.

I hope there's someone here who can help me out with a few questions that have been risen to me after especially listen to the Drake interview.

English is not my Native Language and sometimes it's hard for me to fully understand everything that's been said, especially when it gets technical in terms of law etc.

Here's what bothering me:
Drake paints a picture in the first part of the interview wherein the army or at least a major part of it, are people who have the heart in the right place and want to do good for the people of the USA. Reading this thread I see figures of 80 up to 90% of the people in the army that are on the good side (when it's time to take sides).
How can this picture merge with the picture that have been painted by people as Bill Wood, Dan Burisch, Henry Deacon and lots of other whistle blowers.
These people all tell story's about being in secrets projects that are lead by the army.
The army is supposed to have a fleet of UFO type space crafts (imagine how many people would have been working on that to make it and to keep it a secret), and has lots of black operations going.
For all I understood, The total top of the military and the whole of the pentagon is been IN on this.
Bill Wood for instance tells he's been guiding cruise missiles to their targets in the middle east for the good part of the ninety's. Firing a cruise missile requires a ship in the nearby ocean doesn't it, with lots of people on it and all are aware that a cruise missile has been fired. Again, lots of people who know to some degree that there are things going on that can't see the light of day.
To me, There has been risen the idea of an American army that is under full control of the dark powers, name them Illuminati, dark Cabal or whatever.
I have heard Bill wood speak of the 'oathkeepers' and I looked them up on the internet and i wrote to them with the question of how many people are actively involved in this organisation and they mentioned to me that it is in the tens of thousands, which is substantial, but still with the top of the military under full dark control not a number that can rise to 80 or 90% of the people in the army.
Al these stories mention things like mind control and other ways (like corrupting people) to get people under their control.

When I take these stories and this story from Drake, some things just don't add up for me.
If all the other testimonials are true, how comes there's a major part of the army suddenly ready to back the people up who are taking the Nation back under the control in the way that it was meant bye the founders? Drake talks about the army as if they were always part of the good guys trying to figure out how to fight the corrupt people in the governments in the USA.

I would be ever so happy when this whole story unfolds in the way that Drake is portraying, but to this point I can't wrap my mind around all of his claims.

Can you people please explain to me where I am missing the info? :)

[778 neighbour of some guy]

The Drake interview transcript is up.

http://divinecosmos.com/

[aranuk]

Just found this http://pathwaytoascension.wordpress.com/2012/03/30/the-pentagon-wants-this-information-to-go-viral/

The Original 13th Amendment http://www.amendment-13.org/

Mentioned in the interview

“If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive, or retain any title of nobility or honour, or shall without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension. office, or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince, or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them.”

Word is getting out there.

Hi Billy, Come to think about it didn't George Herbert Bush recently get an honary knighthood from the queen. Maybe a few years ago? I saw a video of it where he kneeled in front of her and bowed his head.

Stan

[Kimberley]

Posted a couple of hours ago

MASS ARRESTS: David Interviews Drake -- Transcript!

And several additional up dates from David...


http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1043-massarrests?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DavidWilcockBlog+%28David+Wilcock+Newsletter%29

[Earth Angel]

Kimberley are the additional updates from David through out the interview or at the end as I did not see them........thanks for posting this



Posted a couple of hours ago

MASS ARRESTS: David Interviews Drake -- Transcript!

And several additional up dates from David...


http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1043-massarrests?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DavidWilcockBlog+%28David+Wilcock+Newsletter%29

[YvonneG]

Additionally updates are before the transcript

[Tommy]

I think you should all start using your own brains and look towards yourself for answers, not from Bill or Kerry (updated: or any one). Frankly most of you here do exactly what you accuse them of doing.

Bill: We could use a little more than just a short counter-statement like that. I think we should be careful to so easily point out that people are getting played, you of all people should know this.
I think it would be wise of you to stop threading on others..

I do not agree with a lot of Drakes solutions, mass arrests is one thing that I naturally agree with, but the killing talk just got me sick.. It was rather pathetic and I will have no part in it.
Why start choosing the lesser of two evils? No way..

I will speak about my personal views and research on all of this on a later occasion (Drake\Wilcock included), also probably on the Los Angeles Alchemy Event on the 29th of April where I will be on a panel discussion.

[aranuk]

I don't understand what you are saying here at all. Especially Bill:blabla? Was that what Bill said?

Stan

[aranuk]

I think you should all start using your own brains and look towards yourself for answers, not from Bill or Kerry. Frankly most of you here do exactly what you accuse them of doing.

Bill: We could use a little more than just a short counter-statement like that. I think we should be careful to so easily point out that people are getting played, you of all people should know this.
I think it would be wise of you to stop threading on others..

I do not agree with a lot of Drakes solutions, mass arrests is one thing that I naturally agree with, but the killing talk just got me sick.. It was rather pathetic and I will have no part in it.
Why start choosing the lesser of two evils? No way..

I will speak about my personal views and research on all of this on a later occasion (Drake\Wilcock included), also probably on the Los Angeles Alchemy Event on the 29th of April where I will be on a panel discussion.

I don't agree with violence either. The Bush family and Blair have murdered more than a million people which includes thousands of civilians, women children and innocent men. Do you think a slap on their wrists or a 10,000 dollar fine is appropriate ? What would you suggest we do as a punishment for these genocidal maniacs?

Stan

[Tommy]

I think you should all start using your own brains and look towards yourself for answers, not from Bill or Kerry. Frankly most of you here do exactly what you accuse them of doing.

Bill: We could use a little more than just a short counter-statement like that. I think we should be careful to so easily point out that people are getting played, you of all people should know this.
I think it would be wise of you to stop threading on others..

I do not agree with a lot of Drakes solutions, mass arrests is one thing that I naturally agree with, but the killing talk just got me sick.. It was rather pathetic and I will have no part in it.
Why start choosing the lesser of two evils? No way..

I will speak about my personal views and research on all of this on a later occasion (Drake\Wilcock included), also probably on the Los Angeles Alchemy Event on the 29th of April where I will be on a panel discussion.

I don't agree with violence either. The Bush family and Blair have murdered more than a million people which includes thousands of civilians, women children and innocent men. Do you think a slap on their wrists or a 10,000 dollar fine is appropriate ? What would you suggest we do as a punishment for these genocidal maniacs?

Stan

Hard labor ;)

[GlassSteagallfan]

Posted a couple of hours ago

MASS ARRESTS: David Interviews Drake -- Transcript!

And several additional up dates from David...

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1043-massarrests?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DavidWilcockBlog+%28David+Wilcock+Newsletter%29

Here is a pdf version of the transcript/interview only: 15297

One question - why let the cat out of the bag? It gives the cabal a chance to prepare.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

I don't agree with violence either. The Bush family and Blair have murdered more than a million people which includes thousands of civilians, women children and innocent men. Do you think a slap on their wrists or a 10,000 dollar fine is appropriate ? What would you suggest we do as a punishment for these genocidal maniacs?
Stan

The most important issue is to free ourselves from dark side influence. The dark ones who have traded their light side for addictions to control, greed, fear and simply following orders may not be punished by sending them to whatever reality is next. It may be a very improved experience for them to be released from the prison they have created for themselves. We may all have had our dark side experiences and I am not looking to punish myself for any of mine.

If punishment is needed, then it may be enough to strip them of stolen wealth, put them in public housing and on social security income. Others already there may be glad to see them.

[seigiarchon]

I don't agree with violence either. The Bush family and Blair have murdered more than a million people which includes thousands of civilians, women children and innocent men. Do you think a slap on their wrists or a 10,000 dollar fine is appropriate ? What would you suggest we do as a punishment for these genocidal maniacs?
Stan

The most important issue is to free ourselves from dark side influence. The dark ones who have traded their light side for addictions to control, greed, fear and simply following orders may not be punished by sending them to whatever reality is next. It may be a very improved experience for them to be released from the prison they have created for themselves. We may all have had our dark side experiences and I am not looking to punish myself for any of mine.

If punishment is needed, then it may be enough to strip them of stolen wealth, put them in public housing and on social security income. Others already there may be glad to see them.

Can I ask everybody ..

What's the difference between Bush and Blair murdering millions and millions of innocents and our animal farm factories murdering millions and millions of innocents?

What's the difference between the governments and top billionaires' addictions to control, greed and fear and the boss of a local business' (say a car rental company or a local restaurant) addictions to control, greed and fear?

[aranuk]

PLEASE...You guys can PM each other instead of discussion on the forum. Thanks.

He insulted you as well. I was defending you too in case you have forgotten.
The man who insulted you has thanked you. Where do stand? I stand for justice.

Stan

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Can I ask everybody ..

What's the difference between Bush and Blair murdering millions and millions of innocents and our animal farm factories murdering millions and millions of innocents?

What's the difference between the governments and top billionaires' addictions to control, greed and fear and the boss of a local business' (say a car rental company or a local restaurant) addictions to control, greed and fear?

In my humble opinion, some of these characters are easy to walk away from, others are more difficult. That is the difference. Freedom to consciously choose one's experience.

[Tommy]

I don't agree with violence either. The Bush family and Blair have murdered more than a million people which includes thousands of civilians, women children and innocent men. Do you think a slap on their wrists or a 10,000 dollar fine is appropriate ? What would you suggest we do as a punishment for these genocidal maniacs?
Stan

The most important issue is to free ourselves from dark side influence. The dark ones who have traded their light side for addictions to control, greed, fear and simply following orders may not be punished by sending them to whatever reality is next. It may be a very improved experience for them to be released from the prison they have created for themselves. We may all have had our dark side experiences and I am not looking to punish myself for any of mine.

If punishment is needed, then it may be enough to strip them of stolen wealth, put them in public housing and on social security income. Others already there may be glad to see them.

Thanks rmauersr, I think you are hitting the nail on the head here!

Frankly I find "Drake" to be contradicting the principles of non-violence which I know many of us in these communities\organisations share.

I do appreciate the information, but I certainly have not elected these people to be judge, jury and executioner. Frankly I would support arresting these (drakes and co's) people if they killed off people without due process.. And yes, I am aware we need a new process. Look at what happened to Egypt, did it work out well for them?

I feel we need to use our brains and common sense here, because supporting this man means supporting your metaphorical enemy.

I don't know about you, but the "enemy of my enemy" is not my friend in this case.

Do not give your own individual power away, to anyone.. That is my motto

[aranuk]

I don't agree with violence either. The Bush family and Blair have murdered more than a million people which includes thousands of civilians, women children and innocent men. Do you think a slap on their wrists or a 10,000 dollar fine is appropriate ? What would you suggest we do as a punishment for these genocidal maniacs?
Stan

The most important issue is to free ourselves from dark side influence. The dark ones who have traded their light side for addictions to control, greed, fear and simply following orders may not be punished by sending them to whatever reality is next. It may be a very improved experience for them to be released from the prison they have created for themselves. We may all have had our dark side experiences and I am not looking to punish myself for any of mine.

If punishment is needed, then it may be enough to strip them of stolen wealth, put them in public housing and on social security income. Others already there may be glad to see them.

I am laughing. There are millions of people stripped of wealth, live in public housing and live on social security who have never committed any crimes at all. Why should genocidal maniacs deserve the same conditions that these people have? Makes no sense to me.

Stan

[aranuk]

Let's get this straight here. Drake isn't the criminal. He may have said that he would like to cut some people into small pieces before executing them. That is an emotional rant. I am sure I could persuade him to make them suffer as long as they live instead of killing them quickly. I would also think twice of incarcerating them in a high security jail where they would be buggered by the brutal inmates. They would most probably enjoy that! I could think of a great way to deal with them if I had time to think about it. I certainly would NOT execute them, that would be too easy for them.

Stan

[modwiz]

I've used the metaphor before and will again. You pull a tick off of a dog. What do you do with it? Remove a leech from your leg. What now? Dog has fleas. Remedy?

Confusing parasites with people because they resemble them is practicing poor species hygiene IMO. These critters are the equivalent of rabid dogs. What do we do with them? This malevolent presence that has found a way to possess bodies does not fool me. This is body snatcher stuff. Extreme prejudice will be called for in some cases. Not as retribution, but as hygiene.

[Endity]

I am not sure what I can say about drake that would not be insulting to people that believe his message. The way people speak can really tell what kind of person they are. Now this is not an exact science, nor am I trying to say its black and white like that. My first impression from listening to him was that he was sort of lost on the message. To me in my opinion a man that has many facts and many facets of what is going on would sound much more clear in his words and comments. I felt that really discredited everything for me. I am going to re listen to it again tommorow and see what my second opinion feels on this.

I want to make sure everyone understand I do not blindly believe what I feel is correct. Just my opinion.

[Avocadess]

I personally feel great hope from these plans that Drake reveals. If anyone wants a website where they can read the transcript of the interview in larger print but is not able to read a pdf, I have the interview posted on my website here: http://avocadess.com/door2 -- which I copied from David Wilcock's site, www.divinecosmos.com (and made the print larger and purple).

Personally I feel that it is VERY important that they let the cat out of the bag somewhat with the American people -- because if we had not heard of this, and after listening to Alex Jones, et al. it could be easily misunderstood to be martial law coming down if a person happened to work or live near where these arrests are being made, especially since these criminals are fighting their arrest to the bitter end. It gives us a chance to understand what is going on and a reason to keep a cool head...!

To me, I keep finding myself feeling and thinking: OH, THE BEAUTY OF IT. THE BEAUTY OF IT...!!!

[Dennis Leahy]

Let's get this straight here. Drake isn't the criminal. He may have said that he would like to cut some people into small pieces before executing them. That is an emotional rant. I am sure I could persuade him to make them suffer as long as they live instead of killing them quickly. I would also think twice of incarcerating them in a high security jail where they would be buggered by the brutal inmates. They would most probably enjoy that! I could think of a great way to deal with them if I had time to think about it. I certainly would NOT execute them, that would be too easy for them.

Stan
When it comes to unleashing pent-up feelings about some of the most depraved serial killers in the history of the world, as well as all of the other damage they have done short of death, and what these criminals deserve... well, I suspect many of us have an emotional, knee-jerk reaction. I can't even imagine the increased magnitude if I personally lost a family member or close loved one to these monsters.

But, let's all be wise enough to recognize that people with good hearts are still very human. We're not a bunch of Buddhas. We'll have to work through these feelings, examine them, work through the stages (we never thought we'd get a chance to even experience these stages.)

So, this reminds me of the story of the two Buddhist monks by the stream. One of them sees a scorpion fall into the water, reaches down and scoops the scorpion up, to save it.

The scorpion stings the monk, who then involuntarily flinches and drops the scorpion back into the water.

The monk reaches back down into the water and scoops up the scorpion again, and again gets stung, and again drops the scorpion into the water.

This happens three times. The accompanying monk is flabbergasted, and finally asks his brother monk why he keeps repeating this. The monk replies, "The scorpion is acting in its nature, and so am I."

OK, so now we know how a Buddha might handle psychopathic serial killers. Like I said, we ain't a bunch of Buddhas. On the other hand, we are spiritually evolved enough to not harm them in any way, incarcerate the criminals for life - in humane prison life conditions that we have cried out that every prisoner deserves. For me personally, I would add that regardless of human curiosity of the masses, I would sequester these psychopaths away from humanity for the duration of their lives. No prison interviews, no movie of the week - just locked away from any possibility of causing any more damage to anyone.

Be sure that you recognize that Drake quite probably showed a visceral knee-jerk reaction, not his higher self speaking. Also realize that his reaction wasn't scripted - and wouldn't be the reaction that the group represents.

Dennis

[ThePythonicCow]

If David Wilcock is being played with, that may indicate that much of what David says is true. The "powers that be" have no need to discredit a lie.
The bastards in power don't play these games strictly along the lines of what's true or not.

The lies are so many layers deep at times it's hard to even know what's true.

Rather the bastards in power divide, confuse, mislead, indoctrinate, and bury any bits of truth that might leak out in a cacophony of conflicting claims.

[ThePythonicCow]

All that be said, we are not going to know until it happens...not for sure. But given James Martinez' announcement on 1/1/12, and Ben's newsletters, and all the bank ceos resigning and all the many other signs here, it is absolutely not far-fetched to believe Drake.
The Bank CEO (and similar) resignations can be better explained, in my view, as activity that is typical in a major (once in 80 years, say) financial/economic/monetary crisis. This crisis involves the changing of the world's reserve currency from the US Petro-Dollar to some other global construct or arrangement,
the selling into debt servitude of the United States and Europe,
the collapse (or transition into a quite different form) of the Anglo-American empire of the last two or three centuries,
the collapse or reconstruction of some major financial institutions, and
the prosecution of some (not all, just the one's that drew a short straw) of those involved in the escalating corruption of the last few decades.

In such times, many in high positions will sniff out the coming storm, and decide to duck out with what they have so far. More will be "pushed" out, if they aren't trusted by the most powerful to remain loyal through the transition.

I agree with (my reading of) Bill Ryan, in doubting that major arrests of the "black hats", backed by U.S. Federal Marshalls and many of the U.S. Military, are planned or will happen.

I have seen nothing to the contrary that isn't either the unverifiable word of a few (Fulford, Drake, Wilcock, etc) or the post hoc re-interpretation of some events that have much more pedestrian explanations (such as the substantial increase in resignations of people in financial or political power.)

I doubt however that this "massive arrest" story is just intended to discredit David Wilcock. That will be a minor side affect, in my expectation, of delivering a large dose of disinformation to a self-selecting segment of the population that is starting to "wake up."

Of course, not all the "information" we've been served, as part of this story, is false. What better way to both (1) discredit what bits of truth that might leak out in other ways than to associate them with a story most will find outlandish, and (2) gain attention and credibility from "alternative media" viewers such as ourselves, than to mix a few bits of truth, or near truth, in with the half lies and pure bunkum.

[Hervé]

Then, there is this facet of the rolling dice (coin is too simplistic at this stage) remembering that the Rockefeller empire was built upon the miracles of fake snake (but genuine crude) oil:







PLAY ON PEOPLE'S NEED TO BELIEVE TO CREATE A CULTLIKE FOLLOWING



by Robert Greene



Law 27 -- Play on People's Need to Believe to Create a Cultlike Following
Judgment: People have an overwhelming desire to believe in something. Become the focal point of such desire by offering them a cause, a new faith to follow. Keep your words vague but full of promise; emphasize enthusiasm over rationality and clear thinking. Give your new disciples rituals to perform, ask them to make sacrifices on your behalf. In the absence of organized religion and grand causes, your new belief system will bring you untold power.

In searching, as you must, for the methods that will gain you the most power for the least effort, you will find the creation of a cultlike following one of the most effective. Having a large following opens up all sorts of possibilities for deception; not only will your followers worship you, they will defend you from your enemies and will voluntarily take on the work of enticing others to join your fledgling cult. This kind of power will lift you to another realm: You will no longer have to struggle or use subterfuge to enforce your will. You are adored and can do no wrong.

You might think it a gargantuan task to create such a following, but in fact it is fairly simple. As humans, we have a desperate need to believe in something, anything. This makes us eminently gullible: We simply cannot endure long periods of doubt, or of the emptiness that comes from a lack of something to believe in. Dangle in front of us some new cause, elixir, get-rich-quick scheme, or the latest technological trend or art movement and we leap from the water as one to take the bait. Look at history: The chronicles of the new trends and cults that have made a mass following for themselves could fill a library. After a few centuries, a few decades, a few years, a few months, they generally look ridiculous, but at the time they seem so attractive, so transcendental, so divine.

Always in a rush to believe in something, we will manufacture saints and faiths out of nothing. Do not let this gullibility go to waste: Make yourself the object of worship. Make people form a cult around you.

The great European charlatans of the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries mastered the art of cultmaking. They lived, as we do now, in a time of transformation: Organized religion was on the wane, science on the rise. People were desperate to rally around a new cause or faith. The charlatans had begun by peddling health elixirs and alchemic shortcuts to wealth. Moving quickly from town to town, they originally focused on small groups -- until, by accident, they stumbled on a truth of human nature: The larger the group they gathered around themselves, the easier it was to deceive.

The charlatan would station himself on a high wooden platform (hence the term "mountebank") and crowds would swarm around him. In a group setting, people were more emotional, less able to reason. Had the charlatan spoken to them individually, they might have found him ridiculous, but lost in a crowd they got caught up in a communal mood of rapt attention. It became impossible for them to find the distance to be skeptical. Any deficiencies in the charlatan's ideas were hidden by the zeal of the mass. Passion and enthusiasm swept through the crowd like a contagion, and they reacted violently to anyone who dared to spread a seed of doubt. Both consciously studying this dynamic over decades of experiment and spontaneously adapting to these situations as they happened, the charlatans perfected the science of attracting and holding a crowd, molding the crowd into followers and the followers into a cult

The gimmicks of the charlatans may seem quaint today, but there are thousands of charlatans among us still, using the same tried-and-true methods their predecessors refined centuries ago, only changing the names of their elixirs and modernizing the look of their cults. We find these latter-day charlatans in all arenas of life -- business, fashion, politics, art. Many of them, perhaps, are following in the charlatan tradition without having any knowledge of its history, but you can be more systematic and deliberate. Simply follow the five steps of cultmaking that our charlatan ancestors perfected over the years.

Step 1: Keep it Vague; Keep it Simple. To create a cult you must first attract attention. This you should do not through actions, which are too clear and readable, but through words, which are hazy and deceptive. Your initial speeches, conversations, and interviews must include two elements: on the one hand the promise of something great and transformative, and on the other a total vagueness. This combination will stimulate all kinds of hazy dreams in your listeners, who will make their own connections and see what they want to see.

To make your vagueness attractive, use words of great resonance but cloudy meaning, words full of heat and enthusiasm. Fancy titles for simple things are helpful, as are the use of numbers and the creation of new words for vague concepts. All of these create the impression of specialized knowledge, giving you a veneer of profundity. By the same token, try to make the subject of your cult new and fresh, so that few will understand it. Done right, the combination of vague promises, cloudy but alluring concepts, and fiery enthusiasm will stir people's souls and a group will form around you.

Talk too vaguely and you have no credibility. But it is more dangerous to be specific. If you explain in detail the benefits people will gain by following your cult, you will be expected to satisfy them.

As a corollary to its vagueness your appeal should also be simple. Most people's problems have complex causes: deep-rooted neurosis, interconnected social factors, roots that go way back in time and are exceedingly hard to unravel. Few, however, have the patience to deal with this; most people want to hear that a simple solution will cure their problems. The ability to offer this kind of solution will give you great power and build you a following. Instead of the complicated explanations of real life, return to the primitive solutions of our ancestors, to good old country remedies, to mysterious panaceas.




Full article here:
http://www.american-buddha.com/greene.cult.htm (http://www.american-buddha.com/greene.cult.htm)

[sdv]

Thanks Amzer Zo. Yes, the article that you posted is a good reflection of what is happening. The weirdest thing is that when given evidence that contradeicts what the 'saviour' says, people still blindly believe. Waking up means using your common sense and asking questions!

[YvonneG]

Thanks Amzer Zo. Yes, the article that you posted is a good reflection of what is happening. The weirdest thing is that when given evidence that contradeicts what the 'saviour' says, people still blindly believe. Waking up means using your common sense and asking questions!

If I were to look at this Drake/Wilcock interview alone I would say that whatever else anyone opinions are (and that is what we have is opinions, this might be a good reality check for all of us, because we don't KNOW until it happens) people are being informed about what is going on. I have no idea why the other side would want that to happen, to have such a viral situation of sending this out or shouting it out with our mouse as someone said would be in any way caused by the bad guys. Just looking at it logically.

On the other hand, I have deligently listened to all the freedomreigns calls with Drake and Teri (who is known to me and who would never fall for something she was not sure of). I have other validations I feel such a friend who has friends in the alphabet agencies and who for months have been confirming to him that the imminent arrests are close. And a lot of other things that validate Ben.

There is no logic that someone would go through pains to discredit David, including doing ongoing radio shows on freedomreigns just to keep up the farce along with others! One thing I feel very sure of this was not done to discredit David. Perhaps this can be put to rest :-)

Now lets ask, why would Drake being doing this? We are not asked to do anything except to prepare and to share with others to prepare. Nothing to sign, nothing to put ourselves in jeopardy.

And why would someone like Deatra and Teri and others be involved with him? These are people who have been working and fighting for freedom in real life and not just sharing on the internet (which is good too of course). These are people who have given their whole lives to this. Why would they join with Drake if they didn't know the man enough to know this is for real. Esp. when people like Teri who have lived so much and be lied to. I am sure that she vetted out Drake. I am also sure that the paperwork that was filed was either seen by her or she helped prepare. These are facts. This is what I am interested in sharing.

be well everyone
yvonne

[EnergyGardener]

Many of these curious arguments:

1. Drake is a major deception.
2. Drake's suggestion of retribution was insensitive.
3. We must be more elevated and not react with intent to harm, kill, incarcerate or do "too" much harm to the bad guys.

These arguments reflect the perception by some based upon our current, or even, past mindset. Keep in mind this good problem we see finally developing, is only because of "Divine Intervention," which posts have expressed doubt about that too. One cannot accept these developments without realizing that we are receiving and will continue to receive more "Divine" help.

Let me suggest that while humans may have the opportunity to decide the fate of these very nasty beings (please remember they are unnecessarily still chemtrailing, charging us taxes, forcing us to buy their fuels, electrical energies, attend absurd educations systems, drug ourselves to survive, watch programmed entertainment and subsist on contaminated food, water and air), we will likely receive "Divine" perspective with this decision too. Isn't there still so much to learn?

This is not my greatest concern, as I wrote in an earlier post: I am much more concerned about the masses reaction and destruction to our world upon learning of these creatures; I do not believe they will register as kind of concerns for these "parasites" as some of you.

My current personal opinion is that they are removed to another 3-D planet where they can all deal with each other only; we must rid 5-D Earth and all other evolved realms of these beings. I believe this is inevitable much more about universal law, than humanity's decision, though I would agree with those that would have them leave here alive. If not, I am confident that their souls will be carefully escorted there in the traditional way—perhaps many of them already have.

Our compassion should be that they free themselves from their self-imposed circumstances through karmic evolution and whatever Divine means are available—the latter is what we ourselves are so fortunate to be receiving here and now. I am extremely thankful for that.

[Eram]

Thanks Amzer Zo. Yes, the article that you posted is a good reflection of what is happening. The weirdest thing is that when given evidence that contradeicts what the 'saviour' says, people still blindly believe. Waking up means using your common sense and asking questions!

Here's a message I sent to the ICJ in The Hague:


Dear reader,

I want to find out if it is true that recently there has been send a PROCESS OF NOTIFICATION for the original 13 colonies of the USA to become legaly : A SOVEREIGN NATION STATE.
Is there any way for an amateur like me to find out if these statements have been send to the ICJ?

Thanks in advance,

XXXXXXXXXX

This is their answer so far:

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg600/scaled.php?server=600&filename=answerq.jpg&res=medium

Very curious to learn what they have to say to this, because to me it would prove a thing or two if the notifications had really been send to the ICJ.

[YvonneG]

Thanks Amzer Zo. Yes, the article that you posted is a good reflection of what is happening. The weirdest thing is that when given evidence that contradeicts what the 'saviour' says, people still blindly believe. Waking up means using your common sense and asking questions!

Here's a message I sent to the ICJ in The Hague:


Dear reader,

I want to find out if it is true that recently there has been send a PROCESS OF NOTIFICATION for the original 13 colonies of the USA to become legaly : A SOVEREIGN NATION STATE.
Is there any way for an amateur like me to find out if these statements have been send to the ICJ?

Thanks in advance,

XXXXXXXXXX

This is their answer so far:

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg600/scaled.php?server=600&filename=answerq.jpg&res=medium

Very curious to learn what they have to say to this, because to me it would prove a thing or two if the notifications had really been send to the ICJ.

I am glad you did this for the sakes of those who don't have a "reality" on the other people involved with this. I know who Teri on the freedomreigns show with DRake is. I also know she does not BS. Of course, the rest of you don't know who she is. If you listen to
some of the earlier calls you can get a feeling for who these people are and where they are coming from. However, having a confirmation
from the Hague will put a lot of this to rest. Of course, they have the receipt themselves, perhaps someone would like to ask Drake on the next show on Sunday?

thanks for doing that!

[Mozart]

For me personally, I would add that regardless of human curiosity of the masses, I would sequester these psychopaths away from humanity for the duration of their lives. No prison interviews, no movie of the week - just locked away from any possibility of causing any more damage to anyone.

Be sure that you recognize that Drake quite probably showed a visceral knee-jerk reaction, not his higher self speaking. Also realize that his reaction wasn't scripted - and wouldn't be the reaction that the group represents.

Dennis

Dennis,

I like your well-thought-out posts.

I used to be dead-set against the death penalty, but now I've come around and I do see that there are cases where it's called for, such as in cases of dealing with hard-core psychopaths/sociopaths who are beyond redemption in their current lifetimes, other than to suffer a series of lifetimes in which they'd finally awaken.

I seriously doubt that a lifetime in prison would reform any of them. And I'm talking about hard-core sociopaths who once wielded wealth/power/influence with enthusiasm in the infliction of pain/suffering/death to many people.

To me, it's better all the way around -- on energetic, soul and other levels -- to remove them from our plane of reality by taking their lives and allowing them to move on and let the Universe work out the karmic balance, as it surely will in every single case. We can take their lives and still forgive them -- and ourselves for being so damn ignorant.

We the People don't need the reminders of what the sociopaths did by keeping them around in prisons. We do need to learn the lesson of the price of eternal vigilance -- hell, yea!

[EnergyGardener]

For me personally, I would add that regardless of human curiosity of the masses, I would sequester these psychopaths away from humanity for the duration of their lives. No prison interviews, no movie of the week - just locked away from any possibility of causing any more damage to anyone.

Be sure that you recognize that Drake quite probably showed a visceral knee-jerk reaction, not his higher self speaking. Also realize that his reaction wasn't scripted - and wouldn't be the reaction that the group represents.

Dennis

Dennis,

I like your well-thought-out posts.

I used to be dead-set against the death penalty, but now I've come around and I do see that there are cases where it's called for, such as in cases of dealing with hard-core psychopaths/sociopaths who are beyond redemption in their current lifetimes, other than to suffer a series of lifetimes in which they'd finally awaken.

I seriously doubt that a lifetime in prison would reform any of them. And I'm talking about hard-core sociopaths who once wielded wealth/power/influence with enthusiasm in the infliction of pain/suffering/death to many people.

To me, it's better all the way around -- on energetic, soul and other levels -- to remove them from our plane of reality by taking their lives and allowing them to move on and let the Universe work out the karmic balance, as it surely will in every single case. We can take their lives and still forgive them -- and ourselves for being so damn ignorant.

We the People don't need the reminders of what the sociopaths did by keeping them around in prisons. We do need to learn the lesson of the price of eternal vigilance -- hell, yea!

My biggest concern with the death penalty, killing (with the exception of self-defense or as a result of resisting the police action in the clean up process) and torture, is the karmic penalty for doing so. I would hate to see currently good people being forced join those we are speaking of—to become banished from our wonderful opportunity—for overreacting out of hate and anger. I sincerely believe that education of that potentiality is part of our obligation. For we are intelligent enough to realize this in advance, we must do our part to prevent it from happening—to the extent we are able.

Remember many of these beings, Humans and Reptoids, have developed 4th dimensional powers—our 3-D facilities might not be able to hold them. And who would we want to assign the role of being around them? More important, as some here are writing, they should be completely out of our realm. I believe those that are destroying their underground facilities, tubes and facilities on Terra and beyond, will be happy to escort their souls to a location safely beyond higher realms.

This is an add-on edit after reading DID's post below: I defer to others on the reptoids, greys or insectoids, etc.; I have no expertise on them or clones. I do believe we must be very careful with humans; it would be mayhem for ourselves if we decreed every "perceived" Illuminati as fair game for death in the streets.

[Eram]

I am glad you did this for the sakes of those who don't have a "reality" on the other people involved with this. I know who Teri on the freedomreigns show with DRake is. I also know she does not BS. Of course, the rest of you don't know who she is. If you listen to
some of the earlier calls you can get a feeling for who these people are and where they are coming from. However, having a confirmation
from the Hague will put a lot of this to rest. Of course, they have the receipt themselves, perhaps someone would like to ask Drake on the next show on Sunday?

thanks for doing that!

Well I thought to myself: 'If this Drake is so fed up with people who won't come of the couch, maybe I should take his advice to heart on this and do some research on my own.'
When I come to think of it. Maybe it would be a good idea to form a team of Avaloneans who make it their business to do truth-research on all the big items that are being discussed here in the forum. I think it would enhance the quality of this website big-time.So much story's here are being told without presenting the proper evidence to back it up, even when the evidence is there for grasps.

[DreamsInDigital]

I agree with Mozart, others.

There are such things in existence as humane deaths, where death is more karmicaly high than keeping them alive. Plus I think a lot of people aren't aware that a huge portion of these we're talking about if not nearly all of them aren't even human, they're organic robitoids or clones. With those it is in everyones best interest to destroy those, there is no need for compassion with them. They don't have souls or consciousnesses, so no karma attached there. As for the reptoids and grays, they regard us as food and are regressive, grays are nothing more than parasites (most of those are cybertoids) and regard us as a food source. There is absolutely no possibility of redemption with them what so ever. No amount of compassion, love, light, fluffy puppies, kittens and rainbows is going to change them and they are only acting within their nature.

So it's either death for them or if they get captured by the right set of ET/EDs they get shipped off to an galaxy that was previously uninhabited and surrounded by other uninhabited galaxies on a one way trip so they can't continue to rein havock in this galaxy. And can't continue to cause harm to other races on other planets. Terra/Earth isn't where it started and it certainly isn't where it will be finished either. There are still 20 plus other planets to have their infestations of regressive reptoids and parasitic grays removed from after this.

[Mozart]

Remember many of these beings, Humans and Reptoids, have developed 4th dimensional powers—our 3-D facilities might not be able to hold them. And who would we want to assign the role of being around them? More important, as some here are writing, they should be completely out of our realm. I believe those that are destroying their underground facilities, tubes and facilities on Terra and beyond, will be happy to escort their souls to a location safely beyond higher realms.



Very well put, DID.

I'd love to have the option of the higher forces to remove those whom you mentioned out and away from our plane of reality. I'd prefer that to an action of killing them.

I know for a fact that 70% of those within the circles of the Illoonynaughties are dead-set against the dark agenda that are being perpetuated by those dark ones at the top who still stubbornly are resisting the changes that are being forced upon them.

So we definitely ought to forgive those 70% who want nothing to do with the dark agenda -- and those people would be VERY helpful in bringing out information that they'd surely know that would incriminate those at the top and educate the rest of us.

As for those dark bastards on top, they would have to be dealt with on a case-by-case basis ... oh, I gotta go now!

[EnergyGardener]

Remember many of these beings, Humans and Reptoids, have developed 4th dimensional powers—our 3-D facilities might not be able to hold them. And who would we want to assign the role of being around them? More important, as some here are writing, they should be completely out of our realm. I believe those that are destroying their underground facilities, tubes and facilities on Terra and beyond, will be happy to escort their souls to a location safely beyond higher realms.



Very well put, DID.

I'd love to have the option of the higher forces to remove those whom you mentioned out and away from our plane of reality. I'd prefer that to an action of killing them.

I know for a fact that 70% of those within the circles of the Illoonynaughties are dead-set against the dark agenda that are being perpetuated by those dark ones at the top who still stubbornly are resisting the changes that are being forced upon them.

So we definitely ought to forgive those 70% who want nothing to do with the dark agenda -- and those people would be VERY helpful in bringing out information that they'd surely know that would incriminate those at the top and educate the rest of us.

As for those dark bastards on top, they would have to be dealt with on a case-by-case basis ... oh, I gotta go now!

Though, I am going to have a difficult time with any party that witnessed a human sacrifice and didn't report it and leave the organization—being at the top or bottom of the pyramid.

[Dennis Leahy]

Dennis,

I like your well-thought-out posts.

I used to be dead-set against the death penalty, but now I've come around and I do see that there are cases where it's called for, such as in cases of dealing with hard-core psychopaths/sociopaths who are beyond redemption in their current lifetimes, other than to suffer a series of lifetimes in which they'd finally awaken.

I seriously doubt that a lifetime in prison would reform any of them. And I'm talking about hard-core sociopaths who once wielded wealth/power/influence with enthusiasm in the infliction of pain/suffering/death to many people.

To me, it's better all the way around -- on energetic, soul and other levels -- to remove them from our plane of reality by taking their lives and allowing them to move on and let the Universe work out the karmic balance, as it surely will in every single case. We can take their lives and still forgive them -- and ourselves for being so damn ignorant.

We the People don't need the reminders of what the sociopaths did by keeping them around in prisons. We do need to learn the lesson of the price of eternal vigilance -- hell, yea!
About 30+ years ago, I wrote a poem/song lyric called "Murder the Murderer", recognizing that to take up that sword (handle the guillotine, lever on gallows trap door, syringe full of poison, finger on the trigger) drops the individual performing the execution down into the realm of a murderer.

A number of years later, something triggered the realization that not only can psychopaths not be "repaired", but that the fact that they are still alive, even if incarcerated, causes deep anguish for victims' families. The family members may not be able to 'move on', they don't have closure. They may be traumatized or even terrorized every time someone mentions the word "parole", thinking the monster might someday get out. The macabre MSM (lately I've taken to calling them the "mind scream media") will glorify mass murderers, even if they pretend to be doing a serious piece of reporting, and the Hollywood movie machine rewards writers and directors who are guilty of depraved indifference. All in all, it was compelling enough to me that I changed my mind, ignored one of my prime directives, and started saying that indeed, they should be killed. Quietly, with no fanfare, and literally ground-up and used as fertilizer for ornamental trees. I reasoned that this rather disgusting, ignoble, "with a whimper" ending would more likely dissuade a copycat than some grand execution. And the family would have closure. And we could stop pretending we have the means to rehabilitate a psychopath. (As an aside, what if we could actually repair them? Who would want them released?)

Years went by.. (I'm 58, so I have a few decades under my belt now.) I grew in compassion. I recognized that not only could I have never "pulled the switch", I realized that is a terrible burden to place upon another human being - even if they are enthusiastic about doing it. OK, so we can't fix them, and even if we could, we would not want them to ever walk among us. Torture them with GMO pseudo-food, fluoridated water, electromagnetic radiation, psychotropic "medicine", waterboarding and other depraved and sadistic acts? What does that make us? Even a swift bullet to the head drops us to the role of executioner.

I may not be a Buddha (well, I'm definitely not a Buddha), but I recognize that if this situation were to present itself, it would be an opportunity: an opportunity for spiritual growth. Mine, not theirs. I suspect there is no reform when you're that depraved (and, according to one of Michael Newton's hypnotized subjects experiencing/remembering spirit life, some souls that are too far gone may even be disassembled and returned to Source.) But, I know I am not spiritually advanced enough to make the call as to when some soul is too far gone. It would be an opportunity to NOT perform an execution, to NOT lower my energy, to NOT be like them. (Remember, I'm not promoting any sort of chance of "we forgive you - go in peace" or "time served" or "plea bargain" or "presidential pardon" with the top tier of the Dark Cabal. I am proposing basic, humane, prison, for life, with no chance of parole. I would even say that extraordinary means of guaranteeing the impossibility of escape or a prison break by their loyal mercenaries should be maintained.)

I don't want them off-world, unless it is in an off-world prison. I'd say there is a very good chance we're all of "alien" ancestry, and that these monsters are not clones and do have souls. (I think they are as human and 3D as I am.) Are they of a level/dimension that they cannot be contained/imprisoned, and that they would possibly astral travel and hijack other bodies... well, if I knew that was true, I would modify my stance to get them out of our world/dimension, or "gorked-out" on psychotropic drugs that prevent them from astrally escaping. If we execute higher dimensional beings, perhaps they would laugh at us and simply reincarnate, twice as nasty and with full memory, and reincarnate as our grandchildren.

Remember too that these monsters have quite a bit of information that we would like to have. Corpses are silent; living prisoners might talk. Think of some of the really weaselly ones, like Donnie Nineeleven PNAC Rumsfeld, or Lucky Larry Silverstein - how long do you think they would hold their secrets? Not long, I'd guess. They need to be alive or there is no chance - and I'm convinced that a lot of the details are not going to be found in hidden memos, because a lot of what they have done to humanity was never written down.

I have probably already spent too much time on this slight tangent to the topic, but I personally don't want anyone killed on my behalf. If it all goes down, there will certainly be some ignorant, loyal mercenary forces that will die in combat, but that's not the same as deliberately executing the principle players.

Dennis

[Hervé]

[...]



PLAY ON PEOPLE'S NEED TO BELIEVE TO CREATE A CULTLIKE FOLLOWING


by Robert Greene



Law 27 -- Play on People's Need to Believe to Create a Cultlike Following
Judgment: People have an overwhelming desire to believe in something. Become the focal point of such desire by offering them a cause, a new faith to follow. Keep your words vague but full of promise; emphasize enthusiasm over rationality and clear thinking. Give your new disciples rituals to perform, ask them to make sacrifices on your behalf. In the absence of organized religion and grand causes, your new belief system will bring you untold power.


[...]



Full article here:

http://www.american-buddha.com/greene.cult.htm (http://www.american-buddha.com/greene.cult.htm)





The above adresses the intentional abuse of an innate need for humans to believe in something and which is definitely put to task by any known religion or cult.


However, there is the corollary of the inadvertent messiah and you get "The Life of Brian" of Monty Python's fame.


So, whether intentional of not, unless one STFU, a cult-like following will be generated... automatically. The latter being the operating basis for psyops, cointelpro and the manipulation of alt-media.

[christian]

In the long run the 'elites' have to be prevented from doing what they do. If we wait for the explicit consent of every human on earth to get this accomplished, we'll never get anything done about it. So I appreciate people taking action on that front, it's gotta be taken on somehow. Then what to do with the criminals? Ain't no prison big enough, I guess. Making them work? And if they refuse to move their limbs? My abstract idea would be to gather them in a confined area where they can live among themselves and see how they cope with life, I have no concrete idea how that could be arranged, though. Otherwise I agree with modwiz' flea analogy.

There are many good people inside the systems for various reasons, to make a living, because they are forced, because they want to sabotage it - many people who do not agree on the agenda. I feel those people have a special responsibility when it comes to the prosecution of the criminals inside the system. I found the Drake interview interesting, but the announced actions are yet to manifest. I think it's not necessarily a contradiction, that the arrests are announced, before they happen. Sometimes in a battle stealth is necessary, sometimes telling the enemy you're coming for him is part of the battle - like a war growl to intimidate the enemy and to encourage your soldiers.

Ideas about how details of a new paradigm are actually structured are evolving constantly, it's a dynamic process. I appreciate everyone participating in that, everyone who has a genuine interest for the highest and best good of all at heart.

[araucaria]

...
Anyway, corporate burnout has always happened in the corporate world, so people leaving corporations has always happened at the rate of about 2,000 resignations per quarter, per the EDGAR stats in the SEC, which requires corporations to file paperwork for every single resignation of CEOs and CFOs in corporations.

So, in lieu of an inserted graph, I'm going to have to make-do.

The average CEO/CFO resignations has been 2,000 per quarter for many years, ok?

Each "X" represents 400 resignations, ok?

1st Quarter 2011
XXXXX (2,000

2nd Quarter, 2011
XXXXX (2,000)

3rd Quarter, 2011
XXXXXXXXXX (4,000)

4th Quarter, 2011
XXXXXXXXXX XXXXXX (7,000)

1st Quarter, 2012
XXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXX (16,000)


So, this is a MASSIVE jump in the corporate resignations. Did corporate burnout suddenly jump FOUR-FOLD in just a few months?

...
Somebody in Pennsylvania took notes and sent off the paperwork to the Hague sometime in June, 2011. The entire paperwork process (for the majority of the Original Thirteen Colonies) was done by July/Aug, 2011. This was before the end of the third quarter of 2011 ... and notice that the rate of resignations DOUBLED in that quarter, so I think that the whole paperwork process probably was all done by no later than mid-July, 2011.

Then in the final quarter of 2011, the rate nearly DOUBLED again.

Then in the first quarter of 2012, the rate MORE THAN DOUBLED again.

So, in total, the rate has QUADRUPLED from the average, normal rate of 2,000 resignations per quarter to 16,000+ in the first quarter of 2012.

SOMETHING ELSE is going on other than corporate burnout.

...

This analysis carries much more weight when you correct a simple error. Resignations have not increased fourfold from the background level but eightfold (16000 instead of 2000).

It also carries more weight for actually being understated, when on the contrary most people would exaggerate. Thank you!

[Avocadess]

To those who say this is all some ruse of the bad guys twisting a knife into the alternative media, I strongly disagree. One BIG part of what Drake is doing is talking to the troops -- and any current as well as retired military. He is making it CLEAR to them what their duties are and what they are NOT. One example given in the interview with David Wilcock was that "I was just obeying orders" is NOT good enough -- and that all of the people who used that as a defense at the Nuremburg Trials after WW2 were CONVICTED. David asked him what about if your commanding officer is screaming at you to do something? And Drake made it clear, yes, even if your CO is screaming at you to do something.

There is another radio show Drake did SPECIFICALLY talking to t he troops -- and which hopefully many people are helping to get out to the troops. HOW IN THE WORLD COULD THIS BE GOOD NEWS TO THE DARK CABAL?!!! Not...!

I have not yet been able to locate the audio recording that he made specifically for the troops, but when I get that link I will let you know (unless you tell me first)!

No. What is happening here is NOT healthy for the dark cabal. I am amazed that people want to pick apart Drake's personality as if he were running for the U.S. Presidency. I never met a perfect person, but from all he has done and is doing, he's perfect enough for me, and I am very grateful to him and many others whose names we also do not know and whose voices we have never heard and will never hear for the hard work they have done to free us all...!!!

[Mozart]

This analysis carries much more weight when you correct a simple error. Resignations have not increased fourfold from the background level but eightfold (16000 instead of 2000).

It also carries more weight for actually being understated, when on the contrary most people would exaggerate. Thank you!

Araucaria ~

Wooopsie, Daisy!

I'm grateful for you pointing out my simple, dumb-assed error. <red faced> But I'm laughing it off because of your point that you made of exaggerations to the upside, rather than to the downside like I did.

Thank you. I'll correct it.

[derek]

Personally, I think Drake and David may have said too much. Why do we want to give these butt holes any warning? This makes me think Drake could be a plant, but then again maybe not since I can understand the need for discretion. Who knows.

I had a discussion with David Duke's former campaign manager today, and he confirmed that the plan to overthrow the government has been around for 30+ years. He didn't know ANY of the current stuff, but warned that it would take a huge degree of secrecy to be pulled off. Knowing what little he knows, he did think the Military was pissed off enough to do something and fully expected something to be done for a while now. I sent him the link to Drake/Wilcock's interview.

He did confirm that David Duke lives in Austria and isn't any part of any of this. LOL


Hi, All -- a quick note:

I have to say that I don't believe Drake's testimony. I strongly suspect that David Wilcock is being played to discredit him. If so, this would not be the first time (and certainly not with Ben Fulford, either).

The very idea of announcing 'arrests' beforehand is absurd... if this is all for real. Think of how stakeouts are usually orchestrated. The agencies don't warn the drug gangs prior to the carefully co-ordinated dawn raids.

***

I'm currently traveling, but frequently check the forum for new developments of interest. I also posted this sometime last year: as Mark Twain famously quipped, reports of my death have been somewhat exaggerated.

:)

Warmest regards to everyone, as always -- Bill

In this case the drug gangs are already aware, and they are formally announcing to the people before hand so that people can have a paper trail and not freak out when it happens.

Also is that why 700 Ceo's from banks, pharmecueticals, media, oil etc have resigned or been arrested since January.

http://www.facebook.com/MassResignations/app_2374336051

What about BRICS announcing a new global currency http://www.citypress.co.za/Business/News/Brics-move-to-unseat-US-dollar-as-trade-currency-20120324

Or the U.S State Department putting the vatican on the "money laundering concern list"

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/08/vatican-laundering-idUSL5E8E89AM20120308

Or the queen of englands bank being fined 8.75 million pounds

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/08/vatican-laundering-idUSL5E8E89AM20120308

Or the SEC and the U.S Justice Department BOTH making investigations and criminal probes into major banks

Etc etc etc all since January.

That sounds like one big expensive psyops just to discredit one researcher.

[YvonneG]

Yes...very well put. I am Sicilian and I can imagine what I would do if I still had Godfather relatives doing great harm but couldn't do much or I would be in trouble myself. I know that Ben has said for a long time that many of these people are tired of this MAFIA/CABAL and he says he knows that first hand. This was around time he interviewed the old man Rockefeller to prove to people that if he could find Rockefeller any Ninja worth their salt could also.

I also see this time from an evolutionary perspective. If anyone remembers what Elisabet Santouris, Evolutionary Biologist who was on Thrive said you can see there is a whole other perspective that most of us do not consider in terms of evolution of our and on our Planet. I have a link somewhere to an interview with her which I will post if you guys like.. I honestly feel more and more excited as time goes on and NOT because I have swallowed the Kool-aid but because there are far too many pieces out there to believe nothing is going on. The movie THRIVE documents so much and went out for the whole uninformed population to see. I knew then the cat was out of the box!

And Mozart I so enjoy your clarity of mind, your genuine faith based on "facts", and your no BS way, yet compassion in expressing.

Everyone have a great Easter and don't miss Sunday's freedomreigns call at 6 est because DRake is going to covering a lot of stuff we heard on yesterday's call. On a personal aside, Wil Spencer who has found what is going on with the dying of our Bees, has developed a way to help them and much more. I am going to be helping him with his new Bee website/blog. The people at freedomreigns are quite a group.

On another note, I just spoke to a friend of mine who I thought might have been the one to do the paperwork for Florida...she didn't, but she knows who did. She was actually approached to do it but was too busy at the time. If all this isn't true, they have done well hella of job acting out ...they probably knew Yvonne would call her friend, and hurried up and told her friend to tell me this about the paperwork to ICS so I would be fooled!...Gosh, I am trying to making this funny or?

[YvonneG]

To those who say this is all some ruse of the bad guys twisting a knife into the alternative media, I strongly disagree. One BIG part of what Drake is doing is talking to the troops -- and any current as well as retired military. He is making it CLEAR to them what their duties are and what they are NOT. One example given in the interview with David Wilcock was that "I was just obeying orders" is NOT good enough -- and that all of the people who used that as a defense at the Nuremburg Trials after WW2 were CONVICTED. David asked him what about if your commanding officer is screaming at you to do something? And Drake made it clear, yes, even if your CO is screaming at you to do something.

There is another radio show Drake did SPECIFICALLY talking to t he troops -- and which hopefully many people are helping to get out to the troops. HOW IN THE WORLD COULD THIS BE GOOD NEWS TO THE DARK CABAL?!!! Not...!

I have not yet been able to locate the audio recording that he made specifically for the troops, but when I get that link I will let you know (unless you tell me first)!

No. What is happening here is NOT healthy for the dark cabal. I am amazed that people want to pick apart Drake's personality as if he were running for the U.S. Presidency. I never met a perfect person, but from all he has done and is doing, he's perfect enough for me, and I am very grateful to him and many others whose names we also do not know and whose voices we have never heard and will never hear for the hard work they have done to free us all...!!!


If I am not mistake it is the 3/14/12 or the following week on freedomreigns.us on blogtalkradio. Search freedom reigns and on blogtalkradio adn there you can see all the shows. he does everything through there...
One of the two but they are both worth listen to.

[Carmody]

When psychopaths leave this place they experience their higher self, but with only the one lifetime's experience.

This can cause them to spiral into madness.

And they may not desire to return to their origins and re-integrate. They might, eventually, but they may not go back..immediately. They can hang around.

So....some folks who may or may not be incarnated, find themselves dealing with these bits of 'unfinished business'.

the idea of both god and lucifer require you to worship them. For a reason, ie, that connection exists and some might even say, so that they may exist.

Thus, we end up being confronted by a mess that we have to clear up, and we have to do it through not taking lives. Tit-for-tat, is only pushing the pendulum when it nears one......and serves only as a continuation of the issue not a stabilization and ending.

For those who practice evil (for lack of a better term), things become..... very very messy........ when they die.

you are apparently here, incarnating, to learn lessons.

In order for those lessons to be effective, your higher self would not be all that further advanced than you are right now. I hope that becomes obvious when you think about it for a bit. If you were much more advanced then there would be no point in incarnating.

It is more a case of the body not interfering(it simply is not there), so recall, thought (rumination), and actions are far, far clearer. Other than that, not all that much different.

Like a more perfected intellect, rather than a more advanced one.

thus if you return to the thought of it being an issue of a evil influenced soul not wanting to return to the source point and re-join with the given 'higher self', and have most of themselves erased as 'a bad job', then you might see why they may hang around and not want to return.

So, the good leaves and goes home, to be reborn again.

The evil remains, some of it, that is, and continues to cast influence,and interfere.

Evil (or negative function and negative energy) eventually builds to the point that it needs to be not eliminated...... but recognized -and sent packing.

[Avocadess]

Thank you, YvonneG! I could not find it on freedomreigns.us but Googling blogtalkradio with freedom reigns I found it handily! It was from Saturday, March 17th:

DRAKE SPEAKS TO THE TROOPS, ACTIVE AND RETIRED: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/03/18/freedom-reigns

[Hervé]

Rolling the dice a little further...

Here is an historical background as to where most of these things and the strategies applied were first put together and where you'll find such things as:




In other words we are for freedom of choice for the individual. And that is why this area has become the crucial point for all of the attention of two galaxies. Because if that works here, it can work for everybody, even out on the edge or in any other galaxy that may have been interfered with or had some trouble or accident or some spiritual discomfort.

So the question that no one else can answer: If these guys came with all this technology and spaceships and everything... By the way that's Sector 17. We know there's an implanter base over there too. A lot of the holders turned out to be from there.

We know that all of this line of the implanters is directed towards stopping freedom. They don't care about owning this planet. There's many planets out there. They can own any of them. Their game is not to own planets. Their game is to control beings, and their game is over, if people can go free. You see what I'm saying. That's why they're hiding underground.

That is why they are getting the Americans to develop all these control methods. Why didn't they just come and say - Look, we're gonna blow you out of the sky, if you don't give us all your land and your government and your technology and your weapons and your gold. They don't want that!

They can't have a game unless you are consuming and producing something. They just wanna control you. You see what I mean? That's their game. That's why they're hiding underground using humans in experiments, giving their technology in exchange for teaching Americans how to control people better. And I might say the stupid Americans bought it, at least the MJ 12 Committee and the guys at the top.

And the people who want freedom like Cooper and the other people who talked here, they're losing everything. But they are correct. They have the right and they have the truth. But you see what it's doing to them. But as Cooper said in his lecture - If you don't handle this, we must solve it some way or it's all over. He's talking about America, a little tiny place on this planet. But he's saying the right thing and it applies to the whole game. All right.

So that is the importance. And we are "The Keepers" of the technology right now, because the old "Keepers" of it, the Church [of Scientology], were taken over by these guys in the early 1980'ies. All right. The Church [of Scientology] was infiltrated, read about it in Sector 9, taken over, they were taken over. And they are now practicing, with the technology, the trapping of individuals. Just ask anyone who has come out of it. All right.

Now it's very important that you understand the importance of this planet. You're the attention point of two galaxies so far. And it all has to do with freeing a spirit from the interferences he's had in the game and so he's never more the effect of the implanters. You see, if you can do that the game is over for them. All right, it's finished. It's over, it's finished for them. That is why they are exerting a lot of pressure and a lot of force and money and billions and billions and so on to get their control in before we can get the freedom in. OK. That is the galactic game.

Now that is the why of this planet, why it's so important. Nothing to do with oil or gold or anything like that. That's what the stupid Earth people think. It has to do with the freedom of the spirit. And you are in a very fortunate position, because you know all about it.

... and:



Now we know that the implanters, the Marcabians and the, shall we say good people that want freedom from both galaxies are all rushing, are all hurrying to get this landing done at the right time without having panic or war or anything like that, but to put in their own viewpoint and bring the people of this planet to some kind of understanding.

Now we know that the implanters will push their own line to try and mess it up a little. They will all try to say they are right. But the implanters will do it in a strange way: They will give you the problem and then sell you the solution. That problem may be biological or genetic illness and only they have the cure, so you'd better vote for them. That's the way they work. They give you the problem then they sell you the solution. They got you!

The Marcabians will say - Look how good you're doing under this new administrative system of the one Europe that goes all the way to Russia. Except every year it's a little harder to pay your taxes and live at the same time. Yeah. If you don't believe me, go check the tourist places in Europe. They're having trouble. They can't understand why things are going better in Europe. How come there's less tourists coming?

You can feel it under the surface. People do not have enough money each year. It is control coming slowly but surely on that administrative and economic line. The more government the more taxes. It's going to come, it's coming.

I know that everyone will see it in inflation or lessening buying power. But that is a minor problem, you still have your free will and you can vote. But if your governments start buying solutions from America to control people with drugs and genetics and "special treatments of the mind", you haven't got a chance. So that's the game.

Sound familiar?

The quotes above are excerpts taken from a lecture given by Bill Robertson in Germany in 1990: http://www.freezone.de/english/cbr/e_cbrufo.htm

This is something Bill Ryan has been long aware of, even before "Alternative 3" and "Serpo."

[Alie]

Rolling the dice a little further...

Here is an historical background as to where most of these things and the strategies applied were first put together and where you'll find such things as:




In other words we are for freedom of choice for the individual. And that is why this area has become the crucial point for all of the attention of two galaxies. Because if that works here, it can work for everybody, even out on the edge or in any other galaxy that may have been interfered with or had some trouble or accident or some spiritual discomfort.

So the question that no one else can answer: If these guys came with all this technology and spaceships and everything... By the way that's Sector 17. We know there's an implanter base over there too. A lot of the holders turned out to be from there.

We know that all of this line of the implanters is directed towards stopping freedom. They don't care about owning this planet. There's many planets out there. They can own any of them. Their game is not to own planets. Their game is to control beings, and their game is over, if people can go free. You see what I'm saying. That's why they're hiding underground.

That is why they are getting the Americans to develop all these control methods. Why didn't they just come and say - Look, we're gonna blow you out of the sky, if you don't give us all your land and your government and your technology and your weapons and your gold. They don't want that!

They can't have a game unless you are consuming and producing something. They just wanna control you. You see what I mean? That's their game. That's why they're hiding underground using humans in experiments, giving their technology in exchange for teaching Americans how to control people better. And I might say the stupid Americans bought it, at least the MJ 12 Committee and the guys at the top.

And the people who want freedom like Cooper and the other people who talked here, they're losing everything. But they are correct. They have the right and they have the truth. But you see what it's doing to them. But as Cooper said in his lecture - If you don't handle this, we must solve it some way or it's all over. He's talking about America, a little tiny place on this planet. But he's saying the right thing and it applies to the whole game. All right.

So that is the importance. And we are "The Keepers" of the technology right now, because the old "Keepers" of it, the Church [of Scientology], were taken over by these guys in the early 1980'ies. All right. The Church [of Scientology] was infiltrated, read about it in Sector 9, taken over, they were taken over. And they are now practicing, with the technology, the trapping of individuals. Just ask anyone who has come out of it. All right.

Now it's very important that you understand the importance of this planet. You're the attention point of two galaxies so far. And it all has to do with freeing a spirit from the interferences he's had in the game and so he's never more the effect of the implanters. You see, if you can do that the game is over for them. All right, it's finished. It's over, it's finished for them. That is why they are exerting a lot of pressure and a lot of force and money and billions and billions and so on to get their control in before we can get the freedom in. OK. That is the galactic game.

Now that is the why of this planet, why it's so important. Nothing to do with oil or gold or anything like that. That's what the stupid Earth people think. It has to do with the freedom of the spirit. And you are in a very fortunate position, because you know all about it.

... and:



Now we know that the implanters, the Marcabians and the, shall we say good people that want freedom from both galaxies are all rushing, are all hurrying to get this landing done at the right time without having panic or war or anything like that, but to put in their own viewpoint and bring the people of this planet to some kind of understanding.

Now we know that the implanters will push their own line to try and mess it up a little. They will all try to say they are right. But the implanters will do it in a strange way: They will give you the problem and then sell you the solution. That problem may be biological or genetic illness and only they have the cure, so you'd better vote for them. That's the way they work. They give you the problem then they sell you the solution. They got you!

The Marcabians will say - Look how good you're doing under this new administrative system of the one Europe that goes all the way to Russia. Except every year it's a little harder to pay your taxes and live at the same time. Yeah. If you don't believe me, go check the tourist places in Europe. They're having trouble. They can't understand why things are going better in Europe. How come there's less tourists coming?

You can feel it under the surface. People do not have enough money each year. It is control coming slowly but surely on that administrative and economic line. The more government the more taxes. It's going to come, it's coming.

I know that everyone will see it in inflation or lessening buying power. But that is a minor problem, you still have your free will and you can vote. But if your governments start buying solutions from America to control people with drugs and genetics and "special treatments of the mind", you haven't got a chance. So that's the game.

Sound familiar?

The quotes above are excerpts taken from a lecture given by Bill Robertson in Germany in 1990: http://www.freezone.de/english/cbr/e_cbrufo.htm

This is something Bill Ryan has been long aware of, even before "Alternative 3" and "Serpo."

What is the context for these quotes, since I don't know the history?

[foreverfan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgQRgT15f9U

[Hervé]

Rolling the dice a little further...

Here is an historical background as to where most of these things and the strategies applied were first put together and where you'll find such things as:




In other words we are for freedom of choice for the individual. And that is why this area has become the crucial point for all of the attention of two galaxies.

[...]

We know that all of this line of the implanters is directed towards stopping freedom. They don't care about owning this planet. There's many planets out there. They can own any of them. Their game is not to own planets. Their game is to control beings, and their game is over, if people can go free. You see what I'm saying. That's why they're hiding underground.

That is why they are getting the Americans to develop all these control methods. Why didn't they just come and say - Look, we're gonna blow you out of the sky, if you don't give us all your land and your government and your technology and your weapons and your gold. They don't want that!

They can't have a game unless you are consuming and producing something. They just wanna control you.

[...]

Now it's very important that you understand the importance of this planet. You're the attention point of two galaxies so far. And it all has to do with freeing a spirit from the interferences he's had in the game and so he's never more the effect of the implanters. You see, if you can do that the game is over for them. All right, it's finished. It's over, it's finished for them. That is why they are exerting a lot of pressure and a lot of force and money and billions and billions and so on to get their control in before we can get the freedom in. OK. That is the galactic game.

Now that is the why of this planet, why it's so important. Nothing to do with oil or gold or anything like that. That's what the stupid Earth people think. It has to do with the freedom of the spirit. And you are in a very fortunate position, because you know all about it.

... and:




[...]

But the implanters will do it in a strange way: They will give you the problem and then sell you the solution. That problem may be biological or genetic illness and only they have the cure, so you'd better vote for them. That's the way they work. They give you the problem then they sell you the solution. They got you!

[...]



Sound familiar?

The quotes above are excerpts taken from a lecture given by Bill Robertson in Germany in 1990: http://www.freezone.de/english/cbr/e_cbrufo.htm

This is something Bill Ryan has been long aware of, even before "Alternative 3" and "Serpo."

What is the context for these quotes, since I don't know the history?



The context is where these ideas are coming from, whether it's David Icke's "problem, reaction, solution" or what David Wilcock has been rambling about whether it's about gold, financial situation, DNA/genetics, mind field, UFO and which are the good guys and which are the bad ones...

All of these ideas and data have been around for a long time, eg.:


Sector Operations Bulletin No. 13 (http://www.freezone.de/english/cbr/sector9/e_sob13.htm)
THE DIRECTOR P. AG

BASEL, SWITZERLAND

011082
ALL MARKABIANS ARE HEREBY ORDERED TO CEASE AND DESIST



FROM THEIR NON-COMPLIANCE WITH THE FOLLOWING DECREE:
NO INTERFERENCE IS PERMITTED IN THE ZONE KNOWN AS SECTOR NINE UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE.
THIS DECREE IS TO BE ENFORCED BY THE GALACTIC PATROL.
THERE SHALL BE NO USE OF ATOMIC, CHEMICAL, OR BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS IN THE ZONE.
TRAVEL TO AND FROM THE ZONE IS REGULATED AND SHALL BE SUBJECT TO VERIFICATION OF INTENT AND ESCORT BY THE PATROL.
THE TECHNICAL AND ETHICAL EXPERIMENT IN PROGRESS BY SECTOR COMMANDER ELRAY IS NOT TO BE INTERFERED WITH IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER AS IT IS EXTREMELY VITAL TO THE FUTURE OF THE GALAXY AND ITS INHABITANTS.
THE ETHICS ORDER BY COMMANDER ELRAY ON THE BEING XENU; CURRENTLY JOSEPH STRASBURG, ALIAS "HERR J. OR MR. J." OF GERMANY/SWITZERLAND BANKING CIRCLES, DECLARING HIM SUPPRESSIVE, IS TO BE ENFORCED.
IT IS TO BE UNDERSTOOD THAT THIS IS A CONTROLLED AND PROTECTED SECTOR UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE.
COMMUNICATIONS TO AND FROM SECTOR NINE SHALL BE ROUTED THRU GALACTIC CENTRAL AMBASSADORIAL SECTION AND FINAL AUTHORITY IN CASES OF DISPUTE SHALL BE HELD BY THE GRAND COUNCIL.
BY ORDER OF THE GRAND COUNCIL
GALACTIC CENTRAL

The above one is from 1982... from a group of "ETs" responsible for the galactic sector where our particular solar system is located in.

No, this hasn't anything to do with the GFL.

The "historical" means it has taken this long for these ideas and data to percolate through to a vast audience under various forms but mostly recuperated and twisted around by psyops and "channelled" materials.

Now, you can check what individuals like David Wilcock, David Icke or Alex Collier have been talking about against the above... from 1982.

[xbusymom]

Rolling the dice a little further...

Here is an historical background as to where most of these things and the strategies applied were first put together and where you'll find such things as:




In other words we are for freedom of choice for the individual. And that is why this area has become the crucial point for all of the attention of two galaxies.

[...]

We know that all of this line of the implanters is directed towards stopping freedom. They don't care about owning this planet. There's many planets out there. They can own any of them. Their game is not to own planets. Their game is to control beings, and their game is over, if people can go free. You see what I'm saying. That's why they're hiding underground.

That is why they are getting the Americans to develop all these control methods. Why didn't they just come and say - Look, we're gonna blow you out of the sky, if you don't give us all your land and your government and your technology and your weapons and your gold. They don't want that!

They can't have a game unless you are consuming and producing something. They just wanna control you.

[...]

Now it's very important that you understand the importance of this planet. You're the attention point of two galaxies so far. And it all has to do with freeing a spirit from the interferences he's had in the game and so he's never more the effect of the implanters. You see, if you can do that the game is over for them. All right, it's finished. It's over, it's finished for them. That is why they are exerting a lot of pressure and a lot of force and money and billions and billions and so on to get their control in before we can get the freedom in. OK. That is the galactic game.

Now that is the why of this planet, why it's so important. Nothing to do with oil or gold or anything like that. That's what the stupid Earth people think. It has to do with the freedom of the spirit. And you are in a very fortunate position, because you know all about it.

... and:




[...]

But the implanters will do it in a strange way: They will give you the problem and then sell you the solution. That problem may be biological or genetic illness and only they have the cure, so you'd better vote for them. That's the way they work. They give you the problem then they sell you the solution. They got you!

[...]



Sound familiar?

The quotes above are excerpts taken from a lecture given by Bill Robertson in Germany in 1990: http://www.freezone.de/english/cbr/e_cbrufo.htm

This is something Bill Ryan has been long aware of, even before "Alternative 3" and "Serpo."

What is the context for these quotes, since I don't know the history?



The context is where these ideas are coming from, whether it's David Icke's "problem, reaction, solution" or what David Wilcock has been rambling about whether it's about gold, financial situation, DNA/genetics, mind field, UFO and which are the good guys and which are the bad ones...

All of these ideas and data have been around for a long time, eg.:


Sector Operations Bulletin No. 13 (http://www.freezone.de/english/cbr/sector9/e_sob13.htm)
THE DIRECTOR P. AG

BASEL, SWITZERLAND

011082
ALL MARKABIANS ARE HEREBY ORDERED TO CEASE AND DESIST



FROM THEIR NON-COMPLIANCE WITH THE FOLLOWING DECREE:
NO INTERFERENCE IS PERMITTED IN THE ZONE KNOWN AS SECTOR NINE UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE.
THIS DECREE IS TO BE ENFORCED BY THE GALACTIC PATROL.
THERE SHALL BE NO USE OF ATOMIC, CHEMICAL, OR BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS IN THE ZONE.
TRAVEL TO AND FROM THE ZONE IS REGULATED AND SHALL BE SUBJECT TO VERIFICATION OF INTENT AND ESCORT BY THE PATROL.
THE TECHNICAL AND ETHICAL EXPERIMENT IN PROGRESS BY SECTOR COMMANDER ELRAY IS NOT TO BE INTERFERED WITH IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER AS IT IS EXTREMELY VITAL TO THE FUTURE OF THE GALAXY AND ITS INHABITANTS.
THE ETHICS ORDER BY COMMANDER ELRAY ON THE BEING XENU; CURRENTLY JOSEPH STRASBURG, ALIAS "HERR J. OR MR. J." OF GERMANY/SWITZERLAND BANKING CIRCLES, DECLARING HIM SUPPRESSIVE, IS TO BE ENFORCED.
IT IS TO BE UNDERSTOOD THAT THIS IS A CONTROLLED AND PROTECTED SECTOR UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE.
COMMUNICATIONS TO AND FROM SECTOR NINE SHALL BE ROUTED THRU GALACTIC CENTRAL AMBASSADORIAL SECTION AND FINAL AUTHORITY IN CASES OF DISPUTE SHALL BE HELD BY THE GRAND COUNCIL.
BY ORDER OF THE GRAND COUNCIL
GALACTIC CENTRAL

The above one is from 1982... from a group of "ETs" responsible for the galactic sector where our particular solar system is located in.

No, this hasn't anything to do with the GFL.

The "historical" means it has taken this long for these ideas and data to percolate through to a vast audience under various forms but mostly recuperated and twisted around by psyops and "channelled" materials.

Now, you can check what individuals like David Wilcock, David Icke or Alex Collier have been talking about against the above... from 1982.

forgive me for asking the STUPID question...

but you mean to tell me that - for all the multi-millenia that the entire universe has been in existance - that the issue of "individual liberties" is the GRAND NEW IDEA which must be protected???

so if that idea is SO NEW, - then WHERE did the idea come from in the first place??? (there is something miss-a-logical in your argument...)

[Hervé]

[...]
... but you mean to tell me that...
[...]


I meant to mean no more than what I wrote.

[xbusymom]

[...]
... but you mean to tell me that...
[...]


I meant to mean no more than what I wrote.

oh... sorry to confuse you with a pre-emptory phrase before the actual question...

(*but i am not 1 too argue 'bout the inconsequential gramatics of the statement regarding the issue... - sheeesh! )

[Avocadess]

Pardon me for going off-topic for a moment here, but I lost connection to this website and may be remembering incorrectly that I saw someone post in this thread that starting April 5th (yesterday) the full movie of THRIVE is available FREE online (and totally legally). Here is the link to that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEV5AFFcZ-s&feature=channel

Now, back to David, Drake and Divine Intervention: I must say that I certainly hope that the Divine Intervention part is totally true, because we certainly seem to need it...!!! Notwithstanding Marshall Vian Summers' channeled warnings about getting too much help from ETs that may not really be coming from the right place, it still seems more than appropriate to me that there would be some willing to help us without screwing us in the bargain.

What I would love to hear now are interviews between Drake and Benjamin Fulford -- and between David Wilcock and Benjamin Fulford.

Although I am mostly ELATED to hear this news from Drake, I know the longer time goes by between now and the mass arrests coming down are only going to be more tense in a way. So much is going on, and there seems to be -- as Drake mentioned near the end of his March 17th radio program -- some major PSY OPS coming at us from the White House, et al. basically flipping the People the bird and making plans to do with us what they will -- a posturing specifically designed to create more tension and fear in the American people. FEAR is what they are good at; FEAR is their business.

Another thing Drake pointed out -- which made me feel considerably better -- is that martial law was attempted on the U.S. twice already and FAILED -- and that that was when their structure of backup was much, much stronger than today.

This is the way I handle it -- because it makes me feel so much better and keeps my mind clear as well as enhancing overall life enjoyment: When I see or hear things that sound very "doomsday" -- such as forced vaccinations, GMO even in our national forests, people in low-income housing being relocated by the federal government (this one hasn't happened yet but has already been included in one of the Bills recently passed), that martial law is imminent or "happening now," etc., etc., I say to myself, "They are BLUFFING. They are trying to make me afraid. I refuse." I refuse to allow them to toy with my emotions as well as I am able. I love what I heard someone say. It was something like, "When you get emotional about something, don't do anything you would not do if you were totally chill."

I sure hope the mass arrests happen very, very soon -- but I'm willing to wait until the end of the year if that is what it takes. For me, this year has become a HUGE drum roll...the biggest EVER..!!

[xbusymom]

the THRIVE website (www.thrivemovement.com) does not pull up for me... not even a 404 page... just a blank white screen...

anyone else having trouble with this?

[778 neighbour of some guy]

the THRIVE website (www.thrivemovement.com) does not pull up for me... not even a 404 page... just a blank white screen...

anyone else having trouble with this?

The movie is in the books and videos section of Avalon, posted it yesterday, you can view the whole thing there.

( link and video still work there, for the time being at least)

[araucaria]

When psychopaths leave this place they experience their higher self, but with only the one lifetime's experience.

This can cause them to spiral into madness.

And they may not desire to return to their origins and re-integrate. They might, eventually, but they may not go back..immediately. They can hang around.

So....some folks who may or may not be incarnated, find themselves dealing with these bits of 'unfinished business'.

the idea of both god and lucifer require you to worship them. For a reason, ie, that connection exists and some might even say, so that they may exist.

Thus, we end up being confronted by a mess that we have to clear up, and we have to do it through not taking lives. Tit-for-tat, is only pushing the pendulum when it nears one......and serves only as a continuation of the issue not a stabilization and ending.

For those who practice evil (for lack of a better term), things become..... very very messy........ when they die.

you are apparently here, incarnating, to learn lessons.

In order for those lessons to be effective, your higher self would not be all that further advanced than you are right now. I hope that becomes obvious when you think about it for a bit. If you were much more advanced then there would be no point in incarnating.

It is more a case of the body not interfering(it simply is not there), so recall, thought (rumination), and actions are far, far clearer. Other than that, not all that much different.

Like a more perfected intellect, rather than a more advanced one.

thus if you return to the thought of it being an issue of a evil influenced soul not wanting to return to the source point and re-join with the given 'higher self', and have most of themselves erased as 'a bad job', then you might see why they may hang around and not want to return.

So, the good leaves and goes home, to be reborn again.

The evil remains, some of it, that is, and continues to cast influence,and interfere.

Evil (or negative function and negative energy) eventually builds to the point that it needs to be not eliminated...... but recognized -and sent packing.

The distillation process comes to mind - you separate things out as they reach their different boiling points.

[YvonneG]

the THRIVE website (www.thrivemovement.com) does not pull up for me... not even a 404 page... just a blank white screen...

anyone else having trouble with this?

the movie is : http://www.thrivemovement.com/the_movie (http://www.thrivemovement.com/the_movie)

[ThePythonicCow]

So, in total, the rate has QUADRUPLED from the average, normal rate of 2,000 resignations per quarter to 16,000+ in the first quarter of 2012.




This analysis carries much more weight when you correct a simple error. Resignations have not increased fourfold from the background level but eightfold (16000 instead of 2000).


Thank you. I'll correct it.

I also just corrected the QUADRUPLED (in the original post), changing it to OCTUPLED.

[Avocadess]

The www.thrivemovement.com website was down for a while yesterday; seems to be working fine today.

Back to Wilcock and Drake and the upcoming mass arrests:

I wrote to Drake's website (freedomreigns.us) with my question about martial law and was told that Drake has already said that there will be no martial law because the military has already tried that twice in the past under orders of the President and there was so much non-compliance from the troops. I was told flatly that there will be no martial law.

Another question I asked was about women's rights and the rights of people of color -- since going back to the original 13th Amendment of something like 1787 means going back to before women and non-white races were granted equal rights. They thought that would be a good question to ask when Drake is on the show tomorrow (Sunday) via phone or the chat room. I will not be able to do this because I have another place I will be during the show, but maybe someone will ask.

CORRECTION: I do not believe that Drake is going to be on that radio show today. It was an assumption I made which appears to be wrong.

[Endity]

Alex Jones has been exposed for fear mongering so many times its absurd. Look no further for William Cooper Exposes Alex Jones. I don't trust a word he says as the fact his main objective in the past was to post circumstantial evidence with no hard evidence to back it. Anyways off of my rant about that poopy head. Either way I see it as being inevitable that there will be chaos. People are inherently stupid as a whole. Individuals are smart. There are millions of people still conditioned to the same routine they have been brought up in. These people I feeel will be the main source of chaos. The best you can do is in any event is be prepared, food, water, weapons, ect. Prepare, live, love.

[aranuk]

Personally, I think Drake and David may have said too much. Why do we want to give these butt holes any warning? This makes me think Drake could be a plant, but then again maybe not since I can understand the need for discretion. Who knows.

I had a discussion with David Duke's former campaign manager today, and he confirmed that the plan to overthrow the government has been around for 30+ years. He didn't know ANY of the current stuff, but warned that it would take a huge degree of secrecy to be pulled off. Knowing what little he knows, he did think the Military was pissed off enough to do something and fully expected something to be done for a while now. I sent him the link to Drake/Wilcock's interview.

He did confirm that David Duke lives in Austria and isn't any part of any of this. LOL


Hi, All -- a quick note:

I have to say that I don't believe Drake's testimony. I strongly suspect that David Wilcock is being played to discredit him. If so, this would not be the first time (and certainly not with Ben Fulford, either).

The very idea of announcing 'arrests' beforehand is absurd... if this is all for real. Think of how stakeouts are usually orchestrated. The agencies don't warn the drug gangs prior to the carefully co-ordinated dawn raids.

***

I'm currently traveling, but frequently check the forum for new developments of interest. I also posted this sometime last year: as Mark Twain famously quipped, reports of my death have been somewhat exaggerated.

:)

Warmest regards to everyone, as always -- Bill

In this case the drug gangs are already aware, and they are formally announcing to the people before hand so that people can have a paper trail and not freak out when it happens.

Also is that why 700 Ceo's from banks, pharmecueticals, media, oil etc have resigned or been arrested since January.

http://www.facebook.com/MassResignations/app_2374336051

What about BRICS announcing a new global currency http://www.citypress.co.za/Business/News/Brics-move-to-unseat-US-dollar-as-trade-currency-20120324

Or the U.S State Department putting the vatican on the "money laundering concern list"

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/08/vatican-laundering-idUSL5E8E89AM20120308

Or the queen of englands bank being fined 8.75 million pounds

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/08/vatican-laundering-idUSL5E8E89AM20120308

Or the SEC and the U.S Justice Department BOTH making investigations and criminal probes into major banks

Etc etc etc all since January.

That sounds like one big expensive psyops just to discredit one researcher.

Hi Derek you said "Or the queen of englands bank being fined 8.75 million pounds"

Both links above and below this sentence don't seem to say anything about this. Can you post the correct one please.

Stan

[Mozart]

I also just corrected the QUADRUPLED (in the original post), changing it to OCTUPLED.

And I'm an editor? :rolleyes: :laser: :shocked: :frusty:

Thank you, Paul, for having my back with this one! I appreciate it.

My backup coordinator, who is a vet writer, has repeatedly reminded me that even if you line up 10 professional editors/writers, just about every single one of them would leave and error, or two, or more, after proofing anything.

[DreamsInDigital]

Alex Jones has been exposed for fear mongering so many times its absurd. Look no further for William Cooper Exposes Alex Jones. I don't trust a word he says as the fact his main objective in the past was to post circumstantial evidence with no hard evidence to back it. Anyways off of my rant about that poopy head. Either way I see it as being inevitable that there will be chaos. People are inherently stupid as a whole. Individuals are smart. There are millions of people still conditioned to the same routine they have been brought up in. These people I feeel will be the main source of chaos. The best you can do is in any event is be prepared, food, water, weapons, ect. Prepare, live, love.
Alex Jones's also a known disinfo-agent.

[ThePythonicCow]

would leave and error
would leave and an error

:) :cow: :)

[Mozart]

http://soundofheart.org/galacticfreepress/content/portal-2012-liberation-planet-earth-cobra


Phase 1: The Event (3-7 days)

Mass arrests of the Illuminati

‑Military sweep

-1 day viral and mass media info distribution

-1 day arrests

-Up to 3 days shutdown

-5 to 6 days conviction process


Phase 2: Restructuring (3-6 months)

New financial system backed by precious metals and commodities introduced

-Federal Reserve dismantled, US Treasury prints gold backed money

-Basket of currencies (6 or more) base of world financial system

-Worldwide debt forgiveness

-Bank debts cancelled (credit cards, loans, mortgages)

-Banks must be re-licensed, no interest (usury)

-Multinational companies split and nationalized

... etc, etc ...


This site has a very nice, concise list of what is about to happen.

[Mozart]

would leave and error
would leave and an error

:) :cow: :)

:gaah: ! :censored:

Thanks, buddy!

I'll send my transcripts to you from now on!

And I proofed this post TEN TIMES!

[modwiz]

would leave and error
would leave and an error

:) :cow: :)

:gaah: ! :censored:

Thanks, buddy!

I'll send my transcripts to you from now on!

And I proofed this post TEN TIMES!

Problem is that spell check will not pick up on grammatical errors if they are spelled right.

I noticed your quadruple/octuple math error when I read your post. I never got around to mentioning it. It was still a great post.

[Kimberley]

http://soundofheart.org/galacticfreepress/content/portal-2012-liberation-planet-earth-cobra


Phase 1: The Event (3-7 days)

Mass arrests of the Illuminati

‑Military sweep

-1 day viral and mass media info distribution

-1 day arrests

-Up to 3 days shutdown

-5 to 6 days conviction process


Phase 2: Restructuring (3-6 months)

New financial system backed by precious metals and commodities introduced

-Federal Reserve dismantled, US Treasury prints gold backed money

-Basket of currencies (6 or more) base of world financial system

-Worldwide debt forgiveness

-Bank debts cancelled (credit cards, loans, mortgages)

-Banks must be re-licensed, no interest (usury)

-Multinational companies split and nationalized

... etc, etc ...


This site has a very nice, concise list ofb what is about to happen.


This is what I have been striving for alll of my life. And so many other also....we can see it, smell it, taste it and oh how sweet it IS !!

Thank you to ALL!!

Much love !!!

[kcbc2010]

If this comes about, I mean truely comes about... I think we will have a revolution on our hands, I don't want blood shed but... I've got a feeling we won't get through this it without it.

Who currently holds in their posession the original constitution document(s)? That was a retorical question to be sure. I'd like to know who is supposed to be arresting these people and how they think they are going to get close enough to complete multiple (how many ten, twenty, one hundred) arrests? Will they be arresting the President, the ex president, or people in Congress? Will they attempt to arrest the heads of the Federal Reserve, or the IRS (we can hope)?

Is this not a declaration of revolution? Or, will the U.S. end up divided?

I'm sorry, I hate to be a party pooper, and I think many believe I am, considering my recent posts... well, maybe I am. I'm just calling it as I see it. Americans have been pushed to the brink on several occasions in the recent past. However, we've been too busy fighting not just one war but at least two and involved in at least three uprisings, if not more. I also believe our government has been preparing to fight on soverign soil for quite some time.


I don't think it's being a "party pooper" to be realistic. My belief is that it will depend a lot on where you live. Living near Detroit, I'd be more surprised if there wasn't problems because there's a lot of negativity/anger/hate in this area. A lot of people still haven't gotten over the '67 riots, so I'm expecting it to get bad in some areas. I know I'm stating the obvious when I saw that some people have a sincere and realistic distrust of the police and government officials. (Also, there just aren't enough police stations to deal w/ the crime they have already). So, we've really got to lift up areas like that so because there's going to be some chaos. Yes, we do need to educate people, but we also need opportunities to do that in some of these areas as well.

[Hervé]

Perspective...



These words were written (in French) in 1935, by someone about everyone has heard of:



The Son of the Beast let the wild beasts loose. And Europe collapses like a statue of mud. The sea kills under water and the sky spits fire. And where boots and nails arrive, the sons of Israel meet torment. Sheepyards for their pains and subtle death. The headsmen know, they will lie at Nuremberg.

Always look for the headsmen, even when you think they are dead. Look for them everywhere where power uses terror. Look for them in the house of the one whose wealth came from the war. Not for revenge, but to prevent they and their children invade the world once again by disguising the word and the chief. The Son of the Beast holds the great weapon in his heart.

Fights in the mountains, red and white, climb down the flowers. Europe, those are your best sons, who, one day will be betrayed. Because the heads they thought they fell will lead again, always the same. They will shoot down the money's puppets, not the money's bosses

Nuremberg the injust. The killers are absent. Some of them on the judges' bench. This shadow spreads far.

[...]

Only today ends Nuremberg. But beware the face which smiles and comes from the South, more south than all of them. His heart was always north, he came back to take it back with his black brothers. There is still fear, but in peace all the men from high and low Luther will look for someone. And the day a woman will pledge on the renovated bible will be day of peace.

Prophecies, Angelo Roncalli in 1935.

* (America; the sons of Luther are the Americans in Roncalli's speech, from the Protestants who came to America to escape religious persecutions; as well, the French are the "Sons of Jeanne [d'Arc]")



That Angelo Roncalli guy... well, he is the one who, after WWII, became Pope John XXIII.

Excerpts from "Les prophéties du pape Jean XXIII," Pier Carpi, Ed "Jai Lu." Translation: bibi.

Edit:

I emphasized "always the same" because "they" keep coming back in new or "other' bodies...

[kcbc2010]

Even on politically oriented sites, there's been talk of this. This article was posted about two weeks ago where the interviewer is talking with an White House Upper-level Insider. Like everyone says, do your own research.

Here's the excerpt
UM: The conflict between the military and the Obama administration that you spoke of last year is really playing out now. How bad do you think it will get?

Insider: It already is very bad. Most of what is going on is being contained in-house but I have a source. Retired. 30 odd years. Has a ton of contacts still active. They are indicating things are not good. Actually glad you asked this question. Forgot about something they had told me about a month ago. Some strange things being passed around tied in w/military operations. Domestic. At home. That has people upset. Rank and file conflicts. Now this is not the first time I”ve been told similar things. Goes as far back as maybe 20 yrs ago. But then it would get quiet. This time it’s not getting quiet. Tinfoil hat stuff but this guy don’t talk sh-t. They are the real deal. So I’ve been keeping my ear to the ground on that and suggest you do the same. Was going to ask -name deleted- about it but haven’t yet. If you talk to them first bring it up. Might be what got him so pissed off against the administration? Just guessing but maybe? That and the Israeli situation. Or more? Don’t know.

Here's the article if you want to read it in full:
http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/03/22/white-house-insider-america-doesnt-have-a-racial-problem-america-has-an-obama-problem/

Anyway, the White House Insider is very accurate about some of the stuff that's been going down in the US politically. And 99% of politicos don't touch "tin foil" conspiracy stuff. So when I read the DW article, I thought of this article as well and I think that it should be added to the body of evidence that we are establishing on PA. Peace.

[YvonneG]

Very sweet dear Kimberley...indeed...

[Endity]

KCBC thanks for showing this. This has tickled my fancy. Maybe there is some truth to what drake says. I am def not sold yet but you have helped reassure that at the least its possible it could be happening.

[ThePythonicCow]

I moved a few posts involving the latest Whitehouse Insider (Ulsterman) report to the thread that is already intermittently covering this: White House Insider (Ulsterman): The Obama Plan (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?28704-White-House-Insider--Ulsterman--The-Obama-Plan).

[Bo Atkinson]

Thanks to all who watch for the curves and stay ahead of them too, keeping it between the posts, too.

I spent most of the day listening to divine cosmos.com and freedomreigns.us mp3 casts.... I generally liked the upbeat aspects without any apparent conflicts throughout it all. Conflicts in the sense of martial law trickery or such. At least one neighbor felt needfully reassured by my sharing these website assertions. Another friend emailed that he was "waiting for the video" ha, what-ever that meant. Thanks for friends with humor.

In case we forget, the exec-order-thing boxes us in, already, as-is. Hard to expect worse eventualities in America, if those things were pressed hard. Let the camp-makers enjoy their camp, enough said.

[Avocadess]

Drake is on the radio show live right now at: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/04/08/freedom-reigns (I think the show lasts until 7:30 p.m. CST or 8:00 p.m. CST)

[YvonneG]

listen to this show if you didn't get on...most of questions will be answered;)

[Avocadess]

I missed this first hour and a half of this show due to my work. One thing I picked up "new" in this show is that the mass arrests are expected to be within 45 days -- and that 14 people's lives have been lost thus far in the current efforts.

[foreverfan]

Drake is on the radio show live right now at: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/04/08/freedom-reigns (I think the show lasts until 7:30 p.m. CST or 8:00 p.m. CST)


New Drake Show. Says End starts in 30-45 Days and cannot be stopped.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/04/08/freedom-reigns

[Avocadess]

This show is now available for replay. (It is listed as April 7, 2012 incorrectly, but is the right one):

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/04/08/freedom-reigns

[Endity]

I had some serious de ja vu while listening to this. Was very strange. Figured I would mention it sense I might as well post something useful with this post I already made.

[ThePythonicCow]

I had some serious de ja vu while listening to this. Was very strange. Figured I would mention it sense I might as well post something useful with this post I already made.

If you go to http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/04/08/freedom-reigns and click on the link "Download this episode" (right below the flash video), it looks like you can download the mp3 audio for this episode.

I have not verified that yet however - just about to do that myself.

[ThePythonicCow]

I have not verified that yet however - just about to do that myself.
I have verified it now - Drake starts at about 29:10 in the mp3 I described in my previous post.

[Dennis Leahy]

I'm about half way through the show:

New meme? "don't expect a white knight".. "we are pointing out the infestation so YOU can clean it."

Also, a long rant about the 13th and 14th amendment, with the flavor of "taxes are illegal." (I'm starting a thread to discuss these financial memes.)

Dennis

{edit}..followed by the announcement that some big stuff will happen within 30 to 45 days.

[Endity]

Interesting 30-45 days and there is no stopping it. Quite bold words. I sure do hope this could happen and the intentions are completly pure.

[MargueriteBee]

From The Eceti Newsletter

Sheriffs Bushwacked

http://americanfreepress.net/?p=3590

APRIL 08, 2012   DAVE

• Delaware attorney general strips county sheriffs of arrest powers

By Pat Shannan

Sheriff Jeff Christopher of Sussex County, Delaware, when he was elected to the office in 2010, thought he was handpicked by the people to represent them as the highest-ranking law officer in the county. Instead, he has found himself in the middle of a fight for the future of American law enforcement as a result of a nationwide effort to abolish the sheriff’s office altogether.

They don't want Sherriffs to arrest them, IMHO.

[Avocadess]

They will try every trick in the book!!! Drake mentioned in the show yesterday that already 14 people's lives have been lost in these efforts leading to arrest.

[jcocks]

The latter half of this year *WILL* be interesting! Makes sense, it would explain why so many people have had such an intense time the last 6 months or so. All our crap is getting flushed out of our systems so that we're in the right frame of mind to deal with what is to come.

I hope to the bottom of my heart that this comes to pass. It will be difficult for a while, but it is badly needed and way overdue...

[Mozart]

New Drake Show. Says End starts in 30-45 Days and cannot be stopped.



Did Drake really eff'n say that?

I've seen other comments saying the same goddamn thing in other forums, so it may well be true that he said that.

So we have to wait another damn month, month-and-a-half for the mass arrests to commence?

WTF?

That just gives more eff'n time for the elite bastards to eff us up! More time to stop the mass arrest process!

Goddamn those eff'n elites! Sorry for all the cuss'n but I'm really pissed off with the constant, constant, constant eff'n delay, delay and more DELAYS!

I DON'T LIKE THIS!

*SIGH*

[Alie]

New Drake Show. Says End starts in 30-45 Days and cannot be stopped.




Did Drake really eff'n say that?

I've seen other comments saying the same goddamn thing in other forums, so it may well be true that he said that.

So we have to wait another damn month, month-and-a-half for the mass arrests to commence?

WTF?

That just gives more eff'n time for the elite bastards to eff us up! More time to stop the mass arrest process!

Goddamn those eff'n elites! Sorry for all the cuss'n but I'm really pissed off with the constant, constant, constant eff'n delay, delay and more DELAYS!

I DON'T LIKE THIS!

*SIGH*

Yes he said that --- I heard it.

[EnergyGardener]

New Drake Show. Says End starts in 30-45 Days and cannot be stopped.




Did Drake really eff'n say that?

I've seen other comments saying the same goddamn thing in other forums, so it may well be true that he said that.

So we have to wait another damn month, month-and-a-half for the mass arrests to commence?

WTF?

That just gives more eff'n time for the elite bastards to eff us up! More time to stop the mass arrest process!

Goddamn those eff'n elites! Sorry for all the cuss'n but I'm really pissed off with the constant, constant, constant eff'n delay, delay and more DELAYS!

I DON'T LIKE THIS!

*SIGH*

Yes he said that --- I heard it.

More time to get ourselves and others prepared. I will celebrate this outcome if it takes 45 days!:peace:

[Eram]

New Drake Show. Says End starts in 30-45 Days and cannot be stopped.



Did Drake really eff'n say that?

I've seen other comments saying the same goddamn thing in other forums, so it may well be true that he said that.

So we have to wait another damn month, month-and-a-half for the mass arrests to commence?

WTF?

That just gives more eff'n time for the elite bastards to eff us up! More time to stop the mass arrest process!

Goddamn those eff'n elites! Sorry for all the cuss'n but I'm really pissed off with the constant, constant, constant eff'n delay, delay and more DELAYS!

I DON'T LIKE THIS!

*SIGH*

Only thing that comes to mind (I'm still not sure if I believe Drake and the David Wilcock story, but I wish for it very much) is that there really is a link with Aliens blowing underground bases and the elites up. If this is true, then the power is already in the hands of the 'Drakes' and E.T.s , and they allow lots of people who are aligned with the elites to ' position' themselves and in this way avoid to have to arrest tens of thousands of people. This would explain why they already spread the word and still wait for a month or so. But to be true.... this enhances my doubts about it all.

[YvonneG]

What I wrote never came out in the post, lets see if it comes out now.
What I had written was that I was on the show and I am rather sure
Drake said in the next 30 days...not 30 to 45 days.

Is someone stealing my post? :-)





New Drake Show. Says End starts in 30-45 Days and cannot be stopped.




[QUOTE=foreverfan;463823]

New Drake Show. Says End starts in 30-45 Days and cannot be stopped.




I was on the call. Drake said "about 30 days"...not sure why people are stressing 30 to 45 days. And he said about 30 days but has also said that there is a lot going on and he feel it will be soon. He is now in contact with those he calls some of the principals. ;)

Did Drake really eff'n say that?

I've seen other comments saying the same goddamn thing in other forums, so it may well be true that he said that.

So we have to wait another damn month, month-and-a-half for the mass arrests to commence?

WTF?

That just gives more eff'n time for the elite bastards to eff us up! More time to stop the mass arrest process!

Goddamn those eff'n elites! Sorry for all the cuss'n but I'm really pissed off with the constant, constant, constant eff'n delay, delay and more DELAYS!

I DON'T LIKE THIS!

*SIGH*

[Avocadess]

Just because he said it would happen within 30-45 days does not mean it won't happen tomorrow. I sure hope it does and I can actually see it happening. All I know is that as long as the crooks are in charge they are getting nonviolent noncooperation from me!!!

[aranuk]

I concur Jcocks and I think this is the start of the BIG CLEAN UP. About time. A nice Easter Surprise! 30-45 days Drake said. I think he meant it too.

Stan

[aranuk]

New Drake Show. Says End starts in 30-45 Days and cannot be stopped.



Did Drake really eff'n say that?

I've seen other comments saying the same goddamn thing in other forums, so it may well be true that he said that.

So we have to wait another damn month, month-and-a-half for the mass arrests to commence?

WTF?

That just gives more eff'n time for the elite bastards to eff us up! More time to stop the mass arrest process!

Goddamn those eff'n elites! Sorry for all the cuss'n but I'm really pissed off with the constant, constant, constant eff'n delay, delay and more DELAYS!

I DON'T LIKE THIS!

*SIGH*
Hi there Mozart you have my sympathy here, but it is something nice to look forward to, isn't it?


Stan

[MacStar]

MAN this is intense!!!

I'm not fully up to date with the Interviews but have heard some of the previous Drake Interview(1st April) due to a complicated life...hope this helps us Down Under, as Drake did allude to before....got too many tabs open,little one and withdrawing from Benzo's on a Pension...I try to cram as much in as I can AND retain some kind of sanity LOL

All in all the gut instinct is to "Keep on keeping on" as we say say in OZ and "She'll be right mate!" ;)

Not sure if this is the right place to post this,or what the general thought is on John Kettler but I received an email and here it is:

Hello Friend:

At an undisclosed location, U.S. Air Force technicians have reportedly spent a great deal of time fruitlessly trying to get a single Predator up for domestic surveillance. Every single thing which could go wrong has, and problems crop up at every turn, to include electronics failing, parts dropping off, engine failing to start, etc. These are the GOOD problems (comparatively speaking)!

The BAD problems occur at lunch breaks, when the techs return to find the Predator mysteriously turned upside down and the tail off or even the whole Predator completely dismantled.

The poor techs scurry off to report this disaster to their supervisor, only to find the Predator reassembled while they were gone, yet still unflyable. As you may've guessed, the ETs/EDs are directly responsible for preventing one of these things from spying on you!


In other news, the interview with Robert Stanley the other night went great, even if it wasn't much fun for the listeners, because of NSA interference. That said, apparently it wasn't much fun there, either, what with electric shocks, ringing and clicking in the ears, interfering with their interference programs and more. Reportedly, the punishment extended to personal vehicles, which were plagued by a rash of nonstarts.

Fortunately the recording of the show came out fine and is available here: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/unicus/2012/04/06/the-unicus-radio-hour

Also, reinforcements have been received, several of which specialize in various forms of environmental cleanup.

Until Next Time,

John Kettler

JohnKettler.com

567 West Channel Islands Blvd, Suite 422, Port Hueneme, CA 93041, USA


Fits in with what I can keep up with!

We could use some ET/ED help out here to "snort" up the trails,as Drake said once and for all.

Cheers all 4 the updates

MacStar

[Ol' Roy]

Full tank of gas. Was in the mountains this past weekend. Felt like I needed to go back to my home roots if the sh#t hits the fan. They are more prepared than I am. Meanwhile I plan on stocking up with food and water in case we can't get up there.

[Kimberley]

More good news from Ben Fulford...

http://benjaminfulford.net/

benjamin
April 10, 2012


It appears that both the so-called “dragon family,” and the “harmonious world banking system,” are just the same criminal godfathers that Ben Bernanke and Timothy Geithner have always worked for. They are running around now claiming they have 600 trillion dollars inside the Federal Reserve Board computers ready to be used for “humanitarian projects worldwide.” Indeed both Eijiro Katsu, top bureaucrat at the Japanese Ministry of Finance and Bank of Japan Governor Masaaki Shirakawa have confirmed the money is sitting there inside the Federal Reserve Board computers. The problem is that the same crooks who have been spreading biological mass murder weapons and carrying out countless other unfathomably evil acts are now saying they will be doing good. The fact of the matter is that the owners of the Fed are a bunch of gangsters who murdered, bribed and lied their way to the top of the planetary power system only to preside over the a largest mass extinction event (including both humans and nature) since the dinosaurs were wiped out. Here is what the world has to say to you murdering crooks: “you are fired.”

and this:

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/


> Hi Ben,
>
> I trust this finds you well?
>
> With regards to your latest update please can you clarity the first sentence as it would appear that those whom you have held in high regard are now referred to in the same breath as the criminal godfathers?
>
> Perhaps I have misunderstood what you are saying?
>
> All the best, Paul.


Hello,
Since my story came out, I have been given new information about the "Dragon family." There is a geniune Dragon family that is based on Asian royal bloodlines. They have been setting up a benevolent new financial system. What has happened is that the Feds, Bernanke, Geithner and their Bush, Rockefeller, Rothschild bosses last week approached Japan Ministry of Finance boss Eijiro Katsu and BOJ Governor Masaaki Shirakawa and pretended they were the dragon family. Somebody also sent me a long article about the Merovingian kings calling them the dragon family too. It is basically the same old crooks doing their best to block the new financial system by muddying up the waters. We are on their case now and have identified specific individuals who were working for the Feds in Japan who are now being asked to back off.
We are simply stirring things up to see who is who. The MOF and BOJ have already said they will not work with the Feds on this one. Nonetheless, I refuse to offer any specific dates for when this will all be resolved. Time is on our side, not theirs. There will be violent revolution in the US and Europe before too long if the Feds do not step aside gracefully.

Benjamin Fulford.

I KNOW we are so close!!! I can feel it, smell it, taste it ! Oh how sweet it is!!! :party: :grouphug:

[TWINCANS]

It's like if you have a powerful king. His loyal subjects and minions will be willing to go to their deaths for him and his position. It's this crew that are in full operation now imo. To really solve the mess once and for all though we have to get the powerful ones standing back in th shadows.

[YvonneG]

There is more than one Dragon Family, Dragon Society, White Dragon society etc. This from Ben should clarify a little. Hopefully someone else that knows more can add more insight not based on our speculation....

> Hi Ben,
>
> I trust this finds you well?
>
> With regards to your latest update please can you clarity the first sentence as it would appear that those whom you have held in high regard are now referred to in the same breath as the criminal godfathers?
>
> Perhaps I have misunderstood what you are saying?
>
> All the best, Paul.


Hello,
Since my story came out, I have been given new information about the "Dragon family." There is a geniune Dragon family that is based on Asian royal bloodlines. They have been setting up a benevolent new financial system. What has happened is that the Feds, Bernanke, Geithner and their Bush, Rockefeller, Rothschild bosses last week approached Japan Ministry of Finance boss Eijiro Katsu and BOJ Governor Masaaki Shirakawa and pretended they were the dragon family. Somebody also sent me a long article about the Merovingian kings calling them the dragon family too. It is basically the same old crooks doing their best to block the new financial system by muddying up the waters. We are on their case now and have identified specific individuals who were working for the Feds in Japan who are now being asked to back off.
We are simply stirring things up to see who is who. The MOF and BOJ have already said they will not work with the Feds on this one. Nonetheless, I refuse to offer any specific dates for when this will all be resolved. Time is on our side, not theirs. There will be violent revolution in the US and Europe before too long if the Feds do not step aside gracefully.

Benjamin Fulford.

[Earth Angel]

when I read the new post on Chinese Army on the Mexican/US border, I thought OMG its actually happening.......mass arrests here we come!!!! but it seems it was old and untrue......almost ran to the store for an extra can of beans, thank goodness Dreams in Digital clarified it for me.......somethings gotta give, and soon!

[Alie]

when I read the new post on Chinese Army on the Mexican/US border, I thought OMG its actually happening.......mass arrests here we come!!!! but it seems it was old and untrue......almost ran to the store for an extra can of beans, thank goodness Dreams in Digital clarified it for me.......somethings gotta give, and soon!

Well I bought 5 large cans of beans, taco shells, taco bell seasoning & 4 lb of cheese and stored/froze it so I guess I'm ready :)

[DreamsInDigital]

Never hurts to have some extra food on hand even if it gets used for when company visits.

[foreverfan]

Well I bought 5 large cans of beans, taco shells, taco bell seasoning & 4 lb of cheese and stored/froze it so I guess I'm ready :)

LMAO... That's too funny. You may need some toilet paper too.

Oh by the way, I heard Drake say in an interview on Sunday that we are looking at 30-45 days.

[Avocadess]

This is something I would not normally confess: I am on the mailing list of someone who claims to channel SaLuSa from Sirius. At first I didn't really take it seriously (siriusly?), but reading the messages always made me FEEL so good that I decided to stay on the mailing list the same way one might enjoy a favorite horoscope listing. It just seemed "too good to be true," but I liked reading it.

Nowadays it sounds like SaLuSa is echoing Drake, Wilcock and Fulford...! Here is a recent mailing I got (below the line of asterisks):

**************************************************************************************************** *********
6-April-2012

It is just a matter of short time before you get firm evidence of what has already commenced, and will learn of the removal of those who have brought about misery and debt in such massive proportions. It has occurred through criminal actions and no country has avoided the repercussions. The affects roll on but a key decision already made to remove all debt, will sweep the problem away and financial matters will return to a steady and stable condition. It is a massive problem but various funds and the re-distribution of wealth, will change the circumstances around. In many instances money falsely obtained will be returned, so that justice and your rights are observed. It will nicely set everything up, so that you begin to experience a society that is run with due respect to your sovereign rights. It will also result in people being happier, and help raise the vibrations and expectancy as you near Ascension.

Meanwhile you should where possible prepare for some inevitable upheaval, and take it in your stride as it will all be short lived. The plans to quickly implement the changes are well in hand, and many countries are involved and supporting our allies. It will bring them more together in co-operation and importantly trust, which has been sadly lacking because of the dark One's activities over millennia of time. The people normally have no such problems, but their minds have been poisoned by propaganda and contrived situations to set them against each other. The sooner we along with the Masters can get the message over that you are All One, the more quickly those barriers because of race or religion will evaporate. Duality has purposely placed you in challenging situations to hasten your spiritual evolution, and the experiences you have gone through have led you towards the realization that you are the one Human Race and bonded together.

Eventually you will reach levels of consciousness so that you literally know everything that you desire, by tapping into the Universal pool of knowledge. You will so powerful that you will be able to create by pure thought and as you grow even more, can reach levels that are akin to being one of the Gods. However, that possibility is a long way into the future, but you should be aware of the amazing potential that you have. As a collective consciousness on Earth you created your reality, but with the dominance of the dark Ones it was never allowed to fully develop. Given total freedom as was your entitlement and without interference, you would certainly have progressed a lot further than you have. As individuals some of you have become quite adept and successful at the different healing methods, and yet each soul has the potential for doing the same. Often it is lack of belief or patience to give sufficient time to develop your skills. It is a most natural function, and indeed in the future you will understand that energy is the alpha and omega of everything that exists, manifesting in its different frequencies.

Little by little you are being opened up to your true potentials, so that you can accommodate the changes that will lead you to full consciousness. With your new crystalline bodies you will be able to enter the higher dimensions, opening up entirely new experiences of Galactic proportions. On Earth souls of a similar vibration are usually attracted to each other and feel good and at ease in each others company, and when you rise up it is even more powerful as groups form and work together as one at a consciousness level. You will not have failed to notice that very often the source of channeled messages, is a group of souls forming a single energy.

Because you do not normally have any memory of previous lives you are unable to make comparisons, which ensures you focus on the current one and are not distracted. It is also why in general terms few of you remember your times out of the body, particularly those when your physical body is laid down to rest. That is a time when you often gravitate to the Astral Realms and meet up with friends and relations. You may come back with vague memories or feel that you have had vivid dreams, and sometimes wake up with a solution on your mind that solves a problem you went to sleep with. It all happens because you can meet the right people who can help. Sometimes they are people you have disputes with, and in the gentle vibrations of the higher Astral the lower ones are subdued and a solution can be amicably found. It is also the reason that when you have lost a loved one, you can have a positive knowing that they are still around you.

The more you learn about the life potential beyond Earth the more you understand how limited you are now, and that every effort you make to ascend is well worthwhile. After what you have learnt about the higher dimensions it must seem a very wonderful goal to aim for, and get off the wheel of rebirth. The solar cycle now ends with a once in hundreds of lifetimes opportunity to leave it behind in a mass ascension, with all of the help you need to assist you to make it. Be assured if you have been constantly sending out a signal that it is what you want, you will have been getting special attention to help you to be successful. God does not want you to be shackled by the lower energies indefinitely, yet it is largely up to you to make your own decision as to when you want to make a move.

Becoming aware that you are more than your physical body is a moment of awakening, and normally leads to introspection in an endeavor to find out what or who you really are. Once you find out that life is infinite each one takes on more significance, as you realize that you do not just have the one opportunity to make your mark. It will then hopefully occur to you that the purpose of life is to evolve, and seek the source of all life. That venture can take you all over the place, until you after searching for God outside of yourself, you find God within. Instead of needing to be led, you suddenly realize that all knowledge is within. However, it can help for someone to point the way, and moving in circles with like minded souls is most productive.

I am SaLuSa from Sirius, and enjoy these opportunities to "speak" with you through the messages. Take from them whatever resonates with you, and that is all I can ask of you. The Galactic Federation sends its love to you all, and wishes those of you who celebrate Easter a happy and fulfilling time.

Thank you SaLuSa.

Mike Quinsey.

**************************************************************************************************** **********

Just a coincidence? Maybe. If you believe in coincidences. I really don't...

[foreverfan]

I enjoy Salusa of the GFofBS too, and this isn't the first time it's followed this story line either.
This would suggest that Quinsey is a fake. I'll still listen though.

[Avocadess]

Come again? What would suggest that he is a fake? I agree he has been saying similar things for a long time, but I do not understand why you feel this reveals something.

[foreverfan]

Come again? What would suggest that he is a fake? I agree he has been saying similar things for a long time, but I do not understand why you feel this reveals something.

Fake... he's reading off the same script. It seems the day after something is disclosed that Salusa mentions it. Fishy to say the least. Many people doubt the GFL and the GFL has been wrong before, but they do have some neat toys.

[aranuk]

I agree Avocadess either Mike Quincy or SaLuSa or even both have been tuning into Devine Cosmos and Freedomreigns.us ! Word is spreading over the galaxy woohoo!

Stan

[DreamsInDigital]

Salusa is part of an mind control program from an Regressive Reptoid Artificial Intelligence Ship, much like GF of BS, etc. The people that channel this evil thing are heavily subjected to mass amounts of mind control and then search the net and fill their "messages" with heavy amounts of rehashed plagiarized information. About 90% of channeled messages come from either that source, or CIA/NSA mind control programs, and should only be regarded as Inspirational Fiction, never taken as "Fact", the mods on Divine Cosmos echo this, and multiple people that posted comments in the Drake Interview Transcript have all said similar things, I've known this though for a long time from my own sources, just wanted to point it out.

GFL, Salusa et al, have been saying the exact same messages for 20+ years now, and still no results...think about that, how long do people keep falling for the same continuous lies and rehashed plagiarized information over and over and over again?

[YvonneG]

when I read the new post on Chinese Army on the Mexican/US border, I thought OMG its actually happening.......mass arrests here we come!!!! but it seems it was old and untrue......almost ran to the store for an extra can of beans, thank goodness Dreams in Digital clarified it for me.......somethings gotta give, and soon!

Thanks for posting this, Earth Angel. Keeps me from having to read another thread! The Chinese Army would not be involved in our "Revolution" so this might not have been a good thing if it were true.

[Chester]

I think you should all start using your own brains and look towards yourself for answers, not from Bill or Kerry. Frankly most of you here do exactly what you accuse them of doing.

Bill: We could use a little more than just a short counter-statement like that. I think we should be careful to so easily point out that people are getting played, you of all people should know this.
I think it would be wise of you to stop threading on others..

I do not agree with a lot of Drakes solutions, mass arrests is one thing that I naturally agree with, but the killing talk just got me sick.. It was rather pathetic and I will have no part in it.
Why start choosing the lesser of two evils? No way..

I will speak about my personal views and research on all of this on a later occasion (Drake\Wilcock included), also probably on the Los Angeles Alchemy Event on the 29th of April where I will be on a panel discussion.

I don't agree with violence either. The Bush family and Blair have murdered more than a million people which includes thousands of civilians, women children and innocent men. Do you think a slap on their wrists or a 10,000 dollar fine is appropriate ? What would you suggest we do as a punishment for these genocidal maniacs?

Stan

Simple - place them in a decently run locked facility like in Holland where they get TV and have to watch the news of the world. They will be able to see the world changing for the better for the rest of their lives. To anyone hell bent on destroying most of the world and almost all life, this would likely be torturous.

[Avocadess]

Is this the thread where someone was scoffing at Putin being a good guy? Well, even if it isn't I think this is of interest. Its from Freedom Reigns radio on February 18, 2012 where they replay a news program someone had recorded. I did not catch where it is from. Has anyone else heard about this? The replay starts around 14 min into this program:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/02/19/freedom-reigns

Or maybe this is well-known and it's just me that is getting caught up on this news.

[wobbegong]

Salusa is part of an mind control program from an Regressive Reptoid Artificial Intelligence Ship, much like GF of BS, etc. The people that channel this evil thing are heavily subjected to mass amounts of mind control and then search the net and fill their "messages" with heavy amounts of rehashed plagiarized information. About 90% of channeled messages come from either that source, or CIA/NSA mind control programs, and should only be regarded as Inspirational Fiction, never taken as "Fact", the mods on Divine Cosmos echo this, and multiple people that posted comments in the Drake Interview Transcript have all said similar things, I've known this though for a long time from my own sources, just wanted to point it out.

GFL, Salusa et al, have been saying the exact same messages for 20+ years now, and still no results...think about that, how long do people keep falling for the same continuous lies and rehashed plagiarized information over and over and over again?

Thanks DreamsInDigital, I agree with you; there's even a mention of some sort of very advanced behavioural profiling system used by ETs in Green's handbook for the new paradigm, and also on Marshall Vian Summers book Allies of Humanity they mention a similar program.
One thing though, you mention the mods at DC, are you saying they do not endorse the GFL? ...I had the feeling that Wilcock's recent articles were sort of preparing the ground for teaming up with Salusa and/or the GFL...BTW didn't one of the Salusa recent chennelings mention Wilcock as one of the "good guys"? Maybe I'm getting it all wrong, but Nidle's sirians say "we are your ascended masters", then DW says a very similar thing...that his ETs are angelic beings, seems like the next step could be a joint effort DW/GFL/Salusa etc.

[DreamsInDigital]

Wobbegong,


also on Marshall Vian Summers book Allies of Humanity they mention a similar program.
As per DC Mods and other sources this is a "very fine piece of Military Industrial Disinformation, that attempts to demonize aliens."

One thing though, you mention the mods at DC, are you saying they do not endorse the GFL?
No, they don't endorse GFL, you will see this quite evident in their responses in the comments part of the Drake Interview Transcript, I highly suggest you check them out. :)

I had the feeling that Wilcock's recent articles were sort of preparing the ground for teaming up with Salusa and/or the GFL...
No, not at all. He's never said that to the best of my knowledge.

BTW didn't one of the Salusa recent chennelings mention Wilcock as one of the "good guys"?
Maybe? I don't know. I make a habit of not reading Channeled Messages considering 90% plus are from dubious sources or mind control programs of some sort. I have really no interest in what amounts to little more in value than inspirational fictional stories.

Maybe I'm getting it all wrong,
How could you not be confused? THAT is half the purpose of the "channeled" messages that come from the Reptoids and CIA/NSA Programs, to confuse, divide, disarm and dis-empower.

but Nidle's sirians say "we are your ascended masters"
Sirians like to think that way, look at what they did with Sumeria and that nightmare, but then the Reptoid AI Ship is based in Sirius B System, If I remember correctly Nidle's Sirians are coming out of that ship's 'files'.

then DW says a very similar thing...that his ETs are angelic beings
Its a relative term, many use the term "angelic beings" to describe ETs. How much of what terms he uses have been influenced in some degree by his religious upbringing from his childhood? He still uses the term "god" occasionally. And, what content other than to maybe blend the edges between his followers that are still heavily into Christianity and Catholicism? In the literal translation of the bible it turns out most of the stories contained within are based on accounts of encounters with ET/EDs. When I refer to Positively Oriented ET's I use all kinds of terms, from ExtraTerrestrials, to Off Worlders, Off Planets, my friend uses the term Extracelestrials, I also use Benevolents, Positively Oriented, "Goodies", I never had the heavy hand of religion to influence me. I knew these guys existed from day one. :)

seems like the next step could be a joint effort DW/GFL/Salusa etc.
That might be on the agenda of the Regressive Reptoids, but for DW? Not a chance. But, it's a good "thought" for confusing and blurring the lines at the hands of those Mind Control Programs isn't it? I think ForeverFan really had a great way of putting it when they said "Fake... he's reading off the same script. It seems the day after something is disclosed that Salusa mentions it. Fishy to say the least. Many people doubt the GFL and the GFL has been wrong before, but they do have some neat toys." Even I pointed out about how "they" have been saying the exact same thing for 20 plus years, making the same empty promises and people keep following them, hanging on etc, because I really think the intent behind them is to disempower (stay on the couch and "we'll handle everything for you") the populations and create a false sense of hope, plus even beyond that..if you really want to take it further, they "claim" to be ET's....so this creates distrust in ET's, and makes it even more difficult for the real ET/ED's that are here to help and make a difference to be trusted.

[sygh]

The www.thrivemovement.com website was down for a while yesterday; seems to be working fine today.



This is what I look forward to. I'm so excited.

[YvonneG]

Is this the thread where someone was scoffing at Putin being a good guy? Well, even if it isn't I think this is of interest. Its from Freedom Reigns radio on February 18, 2012 where they replay a news program someone had recorded. I did not catch where it is from. Has anyone else heard about this? The replay starts around 14 min into this program:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/02/19/freedom-reigns


Or maybe this is well-known and it's just me that is getting caught up on this news.

WOW...what a find! I didn't know the details of this.
We have so been brain-washed against other countries!

[YvonneG]

Is this the thread where someone was scoffing at Putin being a good guy? Well, even if it isn't I think this is of interest. Its from Freedom Reigns radio on February 18, 2012 where they replay a news program someone had recorded. I did not catch where it is from. Has anyone else heard about this? The replay starts around 14 min into this program:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/02/19/freedom-reigns

Or maybe this is well-known and it's just me that is getting caught up on this news.

This is a show with Drake on 2/19/12 and is very important...way before interview with David. On 2/7/12 is when they received confirmation that the paperwork they sent ICS was received. Have not heard it all, but I consider this an important show...:wizard:

[Endity]

So I have been listening to this one that avocadess post for feb 18/2012. Now they call for a guy named drake on thei then a little later they call him a different name. Are there two people in that one which is drake that is not talking at all, and another of a real name that sounds like him but maybe 20 years before lol. Confusing me


Edit: Ok listened longer and they are 2 different people MA BAD!

[Oouthere]

I know for a fact that one point Drake states is incorrect. He says that when the 72 hour lock-down starts that the satellites will be disabled so no funds can be transferred outside the country, that would not stop anything. I work as an electronics tech for a major communications company and know for a fact that we could loose every satellite circling the earth and it would not even slow down our data. The vast majority of the voice/data traffic to overseas locals is on trans-oceanic fibers and the satellites are only used for timing. If we lose our timing signals (and we have several times in the past due to falling trees, etc) our local clocks can keep the equipment going for a minimal of two weeks up to 30 days (depending on the installed clock). Also, if we never got back a satellite signal we would simply re-sync our timing to a circuit riding on the multiplexer and it would never go down. We had a few offices that ran like that for decades.

I like what he says and hope it happens, but this made me have doubts about "their" plan.

Rich

[DreamsInDigital]

Ouutthere,

I'm sure they are aware of those and have contingents in place for those also, keep in mind as has already been said on this thread and across the interviews at least few times. They are not revealing all the details only a portion of it, to protect the plan and those involved. Even I have insider info I'm not revealing to anyone and I won't either to protect those involved. Plus my sources know they can trust me to keep my mouth shut. It's how this works.

[Avocadess]

Ooutthere: I seem to be hearing in these messages from Drake (especially but perhaps only in the interview with Wilcock) that the efforts to return our country to a Republic are being assisted by forces that are able to "freeze" or "turn off" nuclear weapons. Whomever can do that, I would think, would have capabilities for turning off satellites as well.

Oh, and I just found another radio show with Drake. He's not on the first 99 minutes of this show -- starts in right about 99-100 minutes. It was definitely before he announced the mass arrest, but he is prepping people for that information. Just now listening! It was from February 13, 2012 (although the screen says Saturday, February 12 -- have not idea what that's about):

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/02/12/freedom-reigns

[YvonneG]

Remember that Drake worked with nuclear weapons.

My military service includes nuclear weapons, very high security clearances, and Vietnam. Most of the "incidents" from this time forward, I was involved in at some level, major, minor, and local. I started in the field of information in the late nineties and progressed from that time forward. I use a portion of the old cold war spy network, people in several sensitive positions, and those who agree to pass along info no one else gets. There are several contact avenues that also offer info, military, political and citizen eyes. In all, an extreme information highway.


http://freedomreigns.us/Our_Team.html

[YvonneG]

Remember that Drake worked with nuclear weapons.

My military service includes nuclear weapons, very high security clearances, and Vietnam. Most of the "incidents" from this time forward, I was involved in at some level, major, minor, and local. I started in the field of information in the late nineties and progressed from that time forward. I use a portion of the old cold war spy network, people in several sensitive positions, and those who agree to pass along info no one else gets. There are several contact avenues that also offer info, military, political and citizen eyes. In all, an extreme information highway.


http://freedomreigns.us/Our_Team.html

This should be of interest to any of us and helps to remind us that we are not alone and this is not just some "feel good" belief. This is from the transcript of the interview on David's site..I just happened across it this morning while checking to see if there was anything new...

WE ARE BEING PROTECTED BY DIVINE INTERVENTION

DW: What I’m hearing is, from the insiders, that there are cruise missiles that won’t fire. There are bunker-buster bombs that won’t go off. There are tanks that won’t start!

DK: [Laughs]

DW: And, it goes on and on and on. It’s unbelievable, the scope of what’s happening.

That leads me to believe that we are actually dealing with a joint operation in which the boys from topside, as some like to call them, are making darn sure that this plan you’re talking about right now will succeed.


“TREE-HUGGING HIPPIES FROM SPACE”

DK: [laughs] I’ve heard a description that I thought was pretty funny, but does fit.

As I understand it, these guys were described as: “tree-hugging hippies from space” had a “primary directive of non-interference -- and what are you doing zapping me into ga ga land?” That’s a quote from somebody on a security thing!

If somebody wants to know about us as much as can be, and wants to hear recordings -- http://www.freedomreigns.us/Home_Page.php -- that’s all I got to say!

[YvonneG]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH5yu1Frqg4

Ben announcement April 11 2012

today a radio show with Drake answering questions at 1 PM est at freedom reigns

[YvonneG]

2 Hour Q & A with Drake and Teri

but it starts at around 62 minutes....

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/04/12/jim-duensingfreedom-reigns

[EnergyGardener]

Drake stated that this action was with the help of the "ET's or Angels," stating he didn't care what people called them.

Interesting caller named Larry, tried repeatedly the familiar tactic of warning Drake of the "Foreign Troops" and space based nuclear beam weapons that "aren't nice." Drake had a very calm and reassuring response in his very few words style, "I don't care where they are, they will be taken care of."

Drake stated that they have confirmation from the military that all legal issues are completed and that this is going forward, behind-the-scenes people are being handled right now. He said the public portion will be to remove the public figures, but also to coordinate efforts with the military and, if necessary, temporarily with organized voluntary militia groups.

The biggest surprise to me is that he said in the beginning of the conversation that he only recently discovered that the bankers have been calling the shots for a very long time.

Drake had a more calm, and confident demeaner today and intentionally did not go into detail about anything. I sensed the difference today is there is no longer doubt of the vast majority of Pentagon support and there are few loose ends remaining.:playball:

[karelia]

A few interesting comments in this Q&A session...

Drake said with regard to the foreign military present along US borders that they are employed and the moment they don't get paid, they go elsewhere to find someone else who will pay them. Good point, that.

The other thing I found extremely interesting is what he said about who is on our side: (paraphrased) "You have to realize that some who you perceive as an enemy are on our side, and that's one of the biggest shocks people will have to deal with."

Perhaps it's not the bible that's being played out on our planet, but instead the Sajaha prophecies...

[Avocadess]

Yes. I also thought it was very interesting what he said (in another interview on Freedom Reigns with Deatra) about the two times before we were almost invaded and the other countries decided against it. The first time was after the bombing of Pearl Harbor. Reason they declined: Because so many Americans are armed. Second time he didn't say when, but the Chinese were looking at invading us and in their deliberations calculated that due to Americans being so well armed that they could lose 85% of their troops -- so decided against it.

Very interesting, indeed...!

You think maybe one of those shocks he was talking about was how Putin is wanting to take down George Soros, Bush and company and other members of the dark cabal?

[karelia]

<respectfully snipped> You think maybe one of those shocks he was talking about was how Putin is wanting to take down George Soros, Bush and company and other members of the dark cabal?

Actually, no, not at all. Putin is if not lame stream media at least popular in the alternative media. Look at what's never mentioned in either media.

[Avocadess]

I think I have a crush on Drake! hehe

[karelia]

I think I have a crush on Drake! hehe

LOL! It sure is better to have a crush on Drake than on some celebrity!

[Dennis Leahy]

I think I have a crush on Drake! hehe
Snap out of it! It is reverse-Stockholm syndrome (falling for the guy that saved you from the bad guys) heheheheheh

Dennis

[Endity]

Quite interesting stuff I have been keeping up on it quite a bit. I am so indifferent on it I can't find something sturdy to stand on. Im so back and forthe on this drake guy. Makes me crazy!

[EnergyGardener]

A few interesting comments in this Q&A session...

The other thing I found extremely interesting is what he said about who is on our side: (paraphrased) "You have to realize that some who you perceive as an enemy are on our side, and that's one of the biggest shocks people will have to deal with."

China? Russia? India? All of the Above and the rest of the world except the core B.I.S. countries?

Supreme Court? (that would not surprise me)

Congress? (That would surprise me, some may have felt like they have a gun to their heads, but let's face it, most are complete players, cowards and have sold us out)

Vatican? B.I.S.? White House? Royals? NSA/CIA? (Quickly replace the guard suits for striped suits and pretend to be prisoners. Sorry, we've seen the fancy planes, suits, boats, islands, bank accounts, starvation, chemtrails and murders: Keep the striped suits on and stay awhile)

We must ask our ET/ED friends to help procure the evidence / history on all so we can start our Earth Golden Age with a clean slate, least governance and unnecessary expenses of everything so we can focus on raising everyones' standard of living, consciousness and pursuit of happiness. :cool:

Some have touched on this issue in the past: We may still have to deal with Earth shaking off her fleas if we cannot raise the vibrations en masse; we must stay focused on that as Drake and his crew go about their business. Drop me a PM if you are interested in forming a group to discuss.:ranger:

But I am so thankful to Drake and all of you for this fantastic continuing development.

[Avocadess]

Those questions that you list, EnergyGardener, are ones that are keeping me on the edge of my seat...!!! If we are told there is to be another delay after 45 days I will be quite upset...!

[foreverfan]

Those questions that you list, EnergyGardener, are ones that are keeping me on the edge of my seat...!!! If we are told there is to be another delay after 45 days I will be quite upset...!

Upset?

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100108063233/uncyclopedia/images/archive/b/b5/20100108063328!Exploding-head.gif

[Mozart]

Those questions that you list, EnergyGardener, are ones that are keeping me on the edge of my seat...!!! If we are told there is to be another delay after 45 days I will be quite upset...!

Yea, no kidding!

When I first heard about the 30-45-day thing, I went into a big tailspin and was already all pissed-off, so I fired off an email to Wilcock, who said: "It will happen".

But, still ...

And foreverfan ... LOL! That's me there!

[applecrusher1992]

Well I guess we will have to wait to find out. The interesting thing I find about this scenario is regardless of whether drake is telling the truth or not I feel this is a great thought for all people to focus on and proactively engage in.

[steveofengland]

Well, I've read through the entire transcript and it is a compelling story. I'd love this to come off but like everything in life we have to wait. tick tock. I just hope and prey that it doesn't turn into an "Elenin" scenario.

[Alie]

I think the wait is for the military, and per Drake " what the military is waiting on is for some people to come along and "take on" the central banking system (after the 66 min mark)

[Bo Atkinson]

If one may add... I hear Drake, (through freedomreigns.us) also asking people to inform and self educate. Stop over-indulging as happy-go-lucky experiencers of life. Activate one's interest and abilities, as a civic duty, if nothing else. Especially to get locally communicative in one's community and in one's sphere of friends or associates. At the least, to gently inquire if not assert clearly, what one is in the process of learning.

Also to realize that foreclosures go beyond mortgage holders. That property deeds name full owners as 'tenants' and not actually as real owners. See the power grabs (in the form of deed grabs?) coming to a place near you, if left completely unchecked.

A big emphasis is that perhaps 80% of the military do not support the idea of hurting citizens who protest. But that the military needs ordinary people to peacefully assert their freedom through due process. The military needs people to make real "a government by the people". That the good guys in the military don't want to repeat the the old bad-guy coup.

wavydome

[jcocks]

Maybe the "enemies" they are talking about who are really our friends are the Iranians? I've read that they're working with a few groups to get cold fusion technology to a workable general-public state, which is interesting to say the least. It would be nice if they did come forward in the near future and announce a working technology lie that that they then show working to the world...

I can feel that we're on the very brink of a new rennaisance in everything - creativity, space travel, spirituality, you name it. In fact, it's already started...but it is, in the very near future, going to take off like we'd never believe possible...

Hold on to your hats guys, because we will be full-throttle on this journey by the end of this year. I guarantee you this, and I intend to help bring it about.

[Mozart]

I can feel that we're on the very brink of a new rennaisance in everything - creativity, space travel, spirituality, you name it. In fact, it's already started...but it is, in the very near future, going to take off like we'd never believe possible...

Hold on to your hats guys, because we will be full-throttle on this journey by the end of this year. I guarantee you this, and I intend to help bring it about.


:clap2: :high5: :cheer2:

[Chester]

I can feel that we're on the very brink of a new rennaisance in everything - creativity, space travel, spirituality, you name it. In fact, it's already started...but it is, in the very near future, going to take off like we'd never believe possible...

Hold on to your hats guys, because we will be full-throttle on this journey by the end of this year. I guarantee you this, and I intend to help bring it about.


:clap2: :high5: :cheer2:

Agree - Applause - Hurray!

[Applecart]

Maybe the "enemies" they are talking about who are really our friends are the Iranians? I've read that they're working with a few groups to get cold fusion technology to a workable general-public state, which is interesting to say the least. It would be nice if they did come forward in the near future and announce a working technology lie that that they then show working to the world...

this makes a lot of sense, and definitely so if it's true that scientists have been getting assassinated there.

[aranuk]

Drake mentioned that this clean up is NOT just America it is GLOBAL. To hear this being said makes me happy that UK will be also liberated. It stands to reason that the gangster bankers in USA are in cahoots with the British evil banksters. Who the hell the white hats are here is anybody's guess. Is there, could there be, also white hats in the British Military? That would be a surprise for me at least. All the decent politicians are dead. The military top brass in all three forces Army, Navy and RAF are traditionally upper class. Any Brits on Avalon like to join me in an inquiry to what could happen or not happen here? Scots wha hae here?



Stan

[Alie]

Drake mentioned that this clean up is NOT just America it is GLOBAL. To hear this being said makes me happy that UK will be also liberated. It stands to reason that the gangster bankers in USA are in cahoots with the British evil banksters. Who the hell the white hats are here is anybody's guess. Is there, could there be, also white hats in the British Military? That would be a surprise for me at least. All the decent politicians are dead. The military top brass in all three forces Army, Navy and RAF are traditionally upper class. Any Brits on Avalon like to join me in an inquiry to what could happen or not happen here? Scots wha hae here?


Stan

Hi Stan
What about Lord Blackheath?

[aranuk]

Thanks Alie I didn't think of him. I would agree with you that he, in my book would be entitled a gentleman of the highest order. John Smith from Edinburgh would have been the labour leader in UK had it not been for his untimely death from an heart attack. He was a gentleman with high principles and moral fortitude. If he hadn't died he would maybe have been the prime minister instead of Blair if my memory serves. Also Donald Dewar ex Defence Minister I think he also died of a heart attack. Robin Cook also who resigned from Cabinet after the war in Iraq and only a week or so later died of an heart attack whilst walking up a mountain. These moral and upstanding Scottish polititians conveniently seemed to die of heart attacks. Another polititician is Tony Benn who is retired now but he was ridiculed out of his seat I think from the media.

Stan

[aranuk]

In UK if they don't want you in power they heart attack you. In USA they just assassinate you or murder/suicide you. The ruling classess of Britain are much wilier than the rest of the world.


Stan

[DreamsInDigital]

Inducing Heart Attacks is the number one method of murder by the cabal, Assassins aside from a bullet to the forehead. I was told they use potassium chloride as it causes a heart attack and becomes untraceable in the blood within several minutes.

[A Simple Human]

David Wilcock has released a new article today: MAJOR EVENT: Liens Filed Against All 12 Federal Reserve Banks (http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1047-liens) (Divine Cosmos).

I started a new thread specifically for this new article here: MAJOR EVENT: Liens Filed Against All 12 Federal Reserve Banks (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43737-MAJOR-EVENT-Liens-Filed-Against-All-12-Federal-Reserve-Banks) (PA).

[Mozart]

I'm pasting in a comment that I made in the Ben Fulford forum, to wit:

I’m still waiting for Wilcock’s Divine intervention part 2 & 3. About the time encoded prophecies, that’s where all the good stuff is hidden.

@Mozart, any idea when to expect this?

Graduation day is coming very soon!

Comment by solarain on April 15, 2012 @ 12:58 am
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Solarain ~

No, I have no idea about when to expect parts 2 and 3 to happen — the writing/editing of the “MAJOR EVENT” blog entry was totally unplanned, so he had to stop the work on the “DIVINE INTERVENTION” one in order to do the “MAJOR EVENT” one.

David usually juggles several on-going projects at once, hence sometimes the posting of certain articles get delayed, especially when there are major game-changing events that David must comment on when they happen.

David indicated to me this morning in an email that there will soon be a radio show in which our transcript team would be able to transcribe.

I had asked him if we could transcribe the conference call that he mentioned in the “MAJOR EVENT” article, but he said that there was too much classified information in that phone call, so it could not be put into an mp3, even if it was only for the transcript team — and we have done transcriptions with limited-release mp3s that had very sensitive information before.

So what all of you MUST understand is that the players who are involved in these processes on the first-person levels must be VERY careful as to what they can say in public, as opposed to what information that they can safely release — in terms of their own personal safety, as well as to protect The Plan that is guiding their efforts to defeat the damn cabal.

So please, all of you, try not to get frustrated with any apparent “lack” of detailed information and just be patient with this process and trust that it’s definitely moving forward and that the mass arrests of the eff’n cabal WILL HAPPEN.

No IFs, ANDs or BUTs — **IT WILL HAPPEN**.

~Mozart

[YvonneG]

As always...thank you Mozart!

[DreamsInDigital]

Yes, Thank You Mozart, well said my friend.

[Kimberley]

Thank you Mozar!!! Thank you all!!

Much love!!

[YvonneG]

ditto Kimberley...

[Avocadess]

An interview with DRAKE from April 12, 2012 I don't believe was posted here yet:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bw5jaeUCjeo

[Kimberley]

Not only will it happen, IT IS HAPPENING!!!

Thank you one and all!!!
Much love!! :grouphug:

[YvonneG]

An interview with DRAKE from April 12, 2012 I don't believe was posted here yet:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bw5jaeUCjeo


I was on that call and it is sure worth listening to as they all are.

[crosby]

thanks YvonneG. listening now.
regards, corson

[foreverfan]

David Wilcock has released a new article today: MAJOR EVENT: Liens Filed Against All 12 Federal Reserve Banks (http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1047-liens) (Divine Cosmos).

I started a new thread specifically for this new article here: MAJOR EVENT: Liens Filed Against All 12 Federal Reserve Banks (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43737-MAJOR-EVENT-Liens-Filed-Against-All-12-Federal-Reserve-Banks) (PA).

Gave it a read. The Federal Reserve "Ceast and Desist" order filed. You don't need to be Beavis and Butthead to think this is cool.

http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/beavis_butt-head_image_washington_monument_01.jpg

[Avocadess]

Cool thing happened to me today. I was waiting for a bookstore to open because I wanted to continue my discussion with the bookstore owner about the upcoming mass arrests. However, unbeknownst to me there was a peace march today and he was late. I ended up waiting for him outside the store and a couple came up and waited with me, so I took the opportunity to tell them about the upcoming mass arrests. They were avid Alex Jones listeners and full of fear. They assumed when I said mass arrests that I meant martial law and found it hard to believe there would be any good news. I continued to explain many things to them, and suddenly a man in the uniform of a postal carrier walked up to me to give me a "high five." I looked at him quizzically and he said, "Good for you for letting people know. Thank you!!" and then walked on his way.

That was so COOL...!

Then I went to a meeting of people who have been the attendees and David Wilcock seminars in Austin (both from 2011 and last month). I didn't make it to the seminars but am friends with one of the attendees and accompanied her.

One thing I learned is that David Wilcock told them at the recent conference of many, many instances where weapons suddenly did not work during planned war-like maneuvers. They were not really there to talk about the mass arrests, but I opened my big mouth and took the discussion in that direction and we had a good talk.

One thing that came out was that Alex Jones is apparently of the Bronfman family, an elite family. We seemed (at least partially) to come to a general consensus or agreement that while Alex Jones is being "used" by the dark forces because of his ability to get people worked up in ANGER and FEAR, he probably really does not realize that he is being used in this way. The illuminaughty loves to play with MONEY, FEAR and ANGER and so Alex Jones, though he reveals many truths also forwards their own goal of enciting fear. At the same time, a number of us (including myself) believe that Alex Jones is authentic and really does not consciously mean to be furthering the dark forces with his anger and fear-mongering.

Soooo cool about the postman, though! (I had to leave before the tardy bookstore owner came to open the store.)

[Avocadess]

Article I found on the web today about remote-viewing Tibetan monks PREDICTING DIVINE INTERVENTION IN 2012:

Remote Viewing Monks See 2012 ET Intervention

Remote viewing is nothing new in Tibetan monasteries. For thousands of years remote viewing in the middle of other spiritual activities have dominated Tibetan culture. What some Indian tourists came to learn from a few Tibetan monasteries under the current Chinese rule is extremely alarming and fascinating.

According to these tourists remote viewers are seeing world powers in the course of self-destruction. They also see that the world will not be destroyed. Between now and 2012 the world super powers will continue to engage in regional wars. Terrorism and covert war will be the main problem. In world politics something will happen in and around 2010. At that time the world powers will threaten to destroy each other.

Between 2010 and 2012, the whole world will get polarized and prepare for the ultimate dooms day. Heavy political maneuvers and negotiations will take place with little progress.

In 2012, the world will start plunging into a total destructive nuclear war. [Note from Avocadess: I believe this refers at least partially to the nuclear blast(s) that caused the tsunami at Fukushima. Fulford also believes that it was not a natural earthquake but undersea strategic nuclear blasts.]

And at that time something remarkable will happen, says, Buddhist monk of Tibet. Supernatural divine powers will intervene. The destiny of the world is not to self-destruct at this time.

Scientific interpretation of the monks, statements makes it evident that the Extra Terrestrial powers are watching us every step of the way. They will intervene in 2012 and save the world from self-destruction.

When asked about recent UFO sightings in India and China, the monks smiled and said the divine powers are watching us all. Mankind cannot and will not be allowed to alter the future to that great extent.

Every human being though their current acts in life called "Karma can alter the future lives to some extent, but changing the destiny in that large extent will not be allowed to that great an extent.

Monks also mentioned that beyond 2012 our current civilization would understand that the final frontier of science and technology is in area of spirituality and not material physics and chemistry. Beyond 2012, out technologies will take a different direction. People will learn the essence of spirituality, the relation between body and the soul, the reincarnation and the fact we are connected with each other are all part of "God.

In India and China UFO sightings have increased in many folds. Many say the Chinese and Indian Governments are being contacted by the Extra Terrestrials.

In recent days most UFO activities have been seen in those countries who have indigenously developed Nuke capabilities.

When asked if these extra-terrestrials will show up in reality in 2012, the answers remote viewers are giving is: they will reveal themselves in such a way that none of us scared. They will reveal themselves only if they have to. As our science and technology progresses, we are destined to see them and interact with them any way.

According to the remote viewers, our earth is blessed and is being saved continuously from all kinds of hazards all the time that we are not even aware of. As our technologies progress we will realize how external forces saved us.

source: http://www.rense.com/general61/tibert.htm

I would like to add, now that I have finished listening to the show I listed in my previous post (Freedom Reigns with Drake in April 12), I would just like to voice that I TOTALLY DISAGREE with Drake and Terri that corporal punishment is best for children. I raised my son without it -- I used gentle discipline with lots of attention, nurturing, love and guidance. He will be 26 years old this month and is a fine young man who is anything but spoiled, rude or undisciplined. (Crush now lessening on Drake, but still love him for what his is doing, haha!)

[YvonneG]

:nod:

Very sweet...those Tibetans know their stuff too ;)

[jcocks]

. I continued to explain many things to them, and suddenly a man in the uniform of a postal carrier walked up to me to give me a "high five." I looked at him quizzically and he said, "Good for you for letting people know. Thank you!!" and then walked on his way.

That was so COOL...!

Then I went to a meeting of people who have been the attendees and David Wilcock seminars in Austin (both from 2011 and last month). I didn't make it to the seminars but am friends with one of the attendees and accompanied her.


Soooo cool about the postman, though! (I had to leave before the tardy bookstore owner came to open the store.)

Yes, very VERY cool! It would seem to point to the conclusion that the mass arrests aren't just a figment of our imagination, there are a group of people who are working behind the scenes to make this happen. :)

The latter half of this year is going to get extremely interesting, and in a very good way!! :)

[Alie]

4-14-12
Drake on Wolf Spirit Radio (http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archive/UWW_April_2012/2012-04-14-UWW-Deatra-and-Drake.mp3)

[Avocadess]

Regarding 4-14-12
Drake on Wolf Spirit Radio

It's very weird to me that they always say the show is on Sunday but the date given on the show (again today) is a Saturday date. Anyone have any idea what that is about? Or is this a different show altogether? Is Wolf Spirit Radio different than listening to the Freedom Reigns show?

:confused:

Do you know what time the show starts, Alie or anyone? They don't state which time zone goes with the 5 o'clock time they are giving. I would love to listen live for a change!

Hmm....trying to figure this out...


:clap2:

[Avocadess]

Okay: I am NOT going to say I understand what's going on here -- but now I see/hear that the link Alie gave was from YESTERDAY and can be listened to NOW.

Apparently this show is not airing until TODAY: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/04/29/freedom-reigns

Or am I just too confused for words? :noidea:

[aranuk]

Maybe the shows are recorded and aired a day later to accomodate any editing that might be required for safety/intelligence reasons.

Stan

[Alie]

Okay: I am NOT going to say I understand what's going on here -- but now I see/hear that the link Alie gave was from YESTERDAY and can be listened to NOW.

Apparently this show is not airing until TODAY: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/04/29/freedom-reigns

Or am I just too confused for words? :noidea:

Hi! I listened to this recording early this am. It was recorded on Saturday. I found it quite interesting. Here are some keyword phrases I wrote down toward the end of the video (just to give a big overview --- not for education of course).

Please Note --- this list is to help you decide if you want to listen. My notes are kind of jumbled but I have to get off the computer now. I'll clear them out a bit later. Anyway, I typed as I listened ... Alie




continuity of government
rules of engagement
at most maintaining order
becoming free people
county project
organize in the belief of freedom
step up and take up positions
reorganize, reset, restructure
on the side of the people
used founding document -- 1787 constitution; bill of rights; article of confederation; declaration of independence; individual meetings of state ---
removal of states from corporate government
using a portion of the court of the hague as a newspaper in terms of notification - not a group, but a grouping of individuals, don’t have a leader, the leader is “we the people”
anything out of the action not affiliated with
looking to affiliate with the Indian Nations
questions pasts broadcasts – sound like Ted Turner agenda – difference stand alone individually, don’t have a leader vs replace the standing government and call in the UN and take over UN charter agenda 21
UN reinitialized in terms of an agreement different countries augment each other example Haiti due to the greed of the bankers the relief efforts personally gotten wealthy that didn’t help the people
who decides the bad the guys and what will happen?
bad guy facilitating the financial realm of control that ultimately leads to NOW – population reduction by any means possible against armed civilians (like Syria) agenda 21 population reduction. stole from the accounts that belong to the people.
The debt --- Iceland --- central banking system removed and mortgages
Extreme & Extraordinary what’s coming
Adjudicated so we can be a nation of law and order
Bad Guys who used - Selective Inforcing, Targeting Individuals, Housing Bubble, unemployment; Collateral Accounts all the debt and financial problems, using fear to profit
get educated – know your neighbor, your local,
spread the good
Freedom is the Right to Choose
all of the power goes back to the people
freedom of information
treason is anything that goes against the constitution
common law – learn it
a warrant has to have an affidavit of fact and if not – warrant actions are illegal
mass arrests – will we see – first the support has to be taken out who we don’t see – when the support is gone then the more direct action takes place
fully free, transparent elections --- no machines
the reason Putin took such drastic action against Soros b/c he was going to buy Russia up
social security admin – benefits to truly disabled to be continued most of the debts are based on fraudulent means --- I am my own creditor ---
fulford of late stumbled upon reps of global accounts but they didn’t have the authority he thought -- he was set up, but will get back on track
how will it affect Europe; the feds have positioned themselves so that they own Europe –
the eu they are beginning to disagree that a financial interest should run their country they like sovereign and free they have convinced that you can borrow yourself out of debt --- no

[YvonneG]

New interview with Drake...updates, clarifications and more...a must listen

http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2012/04/14/even-more-of-the-drake-this-time-with-bill-wood-4-14-14-thankyouwhiteknights-radio-show-video-and-mp3s/

COULD SOMEONE ADD A NEW THREAD FOR THIS? I am not able to do it once more...not sure why.

:israel:

[DreamsInDigital]

Suggest pming Karelia or one of the other mods and ask them to look into it. :)

[Avocadess]

I just started that thread per your request, YvonneG, called Drake: Updates, Clarifications and More --- and it seemed to post but now I can't find it. (Still learning this software!)

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent."
Thomas Jefferson

FOUND IT...!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43793-Drake-Updates-clarifications-and-more

:o

[A Simple Human]

Cool thing happened to me today. I was waiting for a bookstore to open because I wanted to continue my discussion with the bookstore owner about the upcoming mass arrests. However, unbeknownst to me there was a peace march today and he was late. I ended up waiting for him outside the store and a couple came up and waited with me, so I took the opportunity to tell them about the upcoming mass arrests. They were avid Alex Jones listeners and full of fear. They assumed when I said mass arrests that I meant martial law and found it hard to believe there would be any good news. I continued to explain many things to them, and suddenly a man in the uniform of a postal carrier walked up to me to give me a "high five." I looked at him quizzically and he said, "Good for you for letting people know. Thank you!!" and then walked on his way

@ Avocadess,

Although I have not responded previously due to time constraints, I have read your posts. You have provided some very encouraging posts. I especially enjoy the one regarding the census article and this one about the postal carrier. They are inspiring! :high5:

You seem to be an excellent person. I applaud your efforts to inform the rest of humanity.

Thanks for sharing,

A.S.H.

[Jeffrey]

Hi, All -- a quick note:

I have to say that I don't believe Drake's testimony. I strongly suspect that David Wilcock is being played to discredit him. If so, this would not be the first time (and certainly not with Ben Fulford, either).

The very idea of announcing 'arrests' beforehand is absurd... if this is all for real. Think of how stakeouts are usually orchestrated. The agencies don't warn the drug gangs prior to the carefully co-ordinated dawn raids.

***

I'm currently traveling, but frequently check the forum for new developments of interest. I also posted this sometime last year: as Mark Twain famously quipped, reports of my death have been somewhat exaggerated.

:)

Warmest regards to everyone, as always -- Bill

I'm not going to put his testimony in the trash bin yet. Too many synchronicities to just disregard.

Drake has been in the Ascension game for over a decade now, that goes for esoterica too.

He hasn't just been studying ancient law, but ancient religion, astronomy, ancient/sacred geometry, physics, metaphysics, and magic... the man has a wealth of knowledge he's accumulated. Illumination comes to mind. Now I'm not saying Illuminati or Masons or any group like that, illumination was purely used as an adjective...

Not to mention it's the year of the Dragon, i.e. peace, prosperity, happiness. Drake=DRAGON

Now that he's 'teamed' up with Wilcock too, kind of weird, eh? Considering DWs philosophies...

[aranuk]

Hi, All -- a quick note:

I have to say that I don't believe Drake's testimony. I strongly suspect that David Wilcock is being played to discredit him. If so, this would not be the first time (and certainly not with Ben Fulford, either).

The very idea of announcing 'arrests' beforehand is absurd... if this is all for real. Think of how stakeouts are usually orchestrated. The agencies don't warn the drug gangs prior to the carefully co-ordinated dawn raids.

***

I'm currently traveling, but frequently check the forum for new developments of interest. I also posted this sometime last year: as Mark Twain famously quipped, reports of my death have been somewhat exaggerated.

:)

Warmest regards to everyone, as always -- Bill

I'm not going to put his testimony in the trash bin yet. Too many synchronicities to just disregard.

Drake has been in the Ascension game for over a decade now, that goes for esoterica too.

He hasn't just been studying ancient law, but ancient religion, astronomy, ancient/sacred geometry, physics, metaphysics, and magic... the man has a wealth of knowledge he's accumulated. Illumination comes to mind. Now I'm not saying Illuminati or Masons or any group like that, illumination was purely used as an adjective...

Not to mention it's the year of the Dragon, i.e. peace, prosperity, happiness. Drake=DRAGON

Now that he's 'teamed' up with Wilcock too, kind of weird, eh? Considering DWs philosophies...

Hi Vivek what do you mean with your last sentence?

Stan

[YvonneG]

Freedom reigns call has changed:
Thurs 3-5pm PST Deatra (Drake too I am sure) and Sam Mugzzi - Free Thinking Radio

http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/main/listenchat/

+1 775 657 5973call in #

[DreamsInDigital]

Someone should ask how they are planning to handle the clones/synthetics/robitoids. :)

[OnyxKnight]

What an Ego porn this is ....

[YvonneG]

Here is the link for today's show...it is on wolf spirit radio but they are
broadcasting still through blogtalkradio --sorry about the previous info,
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/ftr/2012/04/19/community-project-with-drake

[Avocadess]

Thanks, YvonneG. I'm having trouble figuring out what time this airs. Do you know? Please include which time zone.

Okay! Finally looked in the right place: the show today begins at 5 o'clock CST (3:00 PST, 4:00 MST, 6:00 EST).

I'm all ears...!

[Avocadess]

Oops. Repeated myself thinking I was in a different thread.

[Jeffrey]

Now that he's 'teamed' up with Wilcock too, kind of weird, eh? Considering DWs philosophies...

Hi Vivek what do you mean with your last sentence?

Stan

What I mean is the two outlets of information are different in scope. Drake vs. David. David being ascension science and Drake being political/governmental worldly affairs. I know David has been researching into this topic starting with Financial Tyranny. So there's the obvious link. I just think David's ascension science philosophies could be linked with this whole thing too, and I'd go so far as to say that Drake would agree to extents I can't even understand right now.

If Drake wouldn't have done that interview with David he would have never had an audience of this size in this realm, i.e. people who are into the kind of information (spiritual/conspiracy/alternative) prevalent in this community.

That's all I meant. It just seems weird to me.