David Wilcock "DIVINE INTERVENTION: Section I -- Defeating Financial Tyranny"

[Kimberley]

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Massive, unprecedented ET interventions are completely disrupting any and all plans to start World War III, according to multiple whistleblowers. This and other fascinating developments suggest that 2012 may live up to many prophets' expectations.

[PLEASE NOTE: This investigation is undergoing dynamic updates, including new sections that will be uploaded as time permits. For this reason, please LINK to it and pull excerpts, but do not COPY and REPOST it, as it will be constantly changing. Thanks!]


Full article posted here...

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1035-divineintervention1

Much love to us all, always in all ways :grouphug:

[Kimberley]

Long live us all!! Long live David Wilcock!!
Much love to us all!!! What more can I say !!! HEHEHEHEH

[gripreaper]

OK, the much anticipated "astounding" epic new release from David Wilcock is here and here is the opening paragraph:

Massive, unprecedented ET interventions are completely disrupting any and all plans to start World War III, according to multiple whistleblowers. This and other fascinating developments suggest that 2012 may live up to many prophets' expectations.

[PLEASE NOTE: This investigation is undergoing dynamic updates, including new sections that will be uploaded as time permits. For this reason, please LINK to it and pull excerpts, but do not COPY and REPOST it, as it will be constantly changing. Thanks!]


http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1035-divineintervention1

[Daozen]

Dagnamit you scooped me!

Looks like a great read.

[Earth Angel]

I think Kimberley scooped this yesterday........
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43077-David-Wilcock-DIVINE-INTERVENTION-Section-I-Defeating-Financial-Tyranny

[Earth Angel]

:nod:wow, another book in the making.......;)

and just to clarify , I mean that in a good way!!!!!!! books are our friends ......no books were hurt in the making of this comment

[PathWalker]

I like what I read, I do not want to believe till it happens.
I hope he did not spoil the plan.
It is part of the dark/light duality war. If one side is exposed the other gains.

I hardly believe the dark side should/would be arrested. They should be naked from their power and wealth and left bare with new identity to start from scratch. Let them repent. Release the revenge and anger, because it serves the other side.
After all they are doing their role in the drama (and failed, as expected).

[Tane Mahuta]

Thankyou Kimberly for the post!

TM

[WhiteFeather]

Davids work is awesome. Helped me in my awakening process. Thanks David.

[WhiteFeather]

I can only hope The Bad Breathed Bridge Trolls dont spoil the party here. If they do i have plenty of breath mints to hand out if necessary.

[aranuk]

Looking forward with optimism for parts II and III

Stan

[conk]

"We now know that the plan for mass arrests has been very actively in the works for at least 33 years"

[PathWalker]

Sound too much like hopeful thinking.
I would avoid relaying our fate into the hands of 'helpful' alien beings.
It is us for the good and bad.

World events are not limited to UK+USA. We are much more then that. Most of the human population is in Asia.

[Revere]

Is it true?... Well, let's at least put our PA + PC possitive INTENTION behind such a possitive future and result.

Peace,
-R-

[Daozen]

Yep Revere, we're not passive observers any more, we're creators.

*

For all the Wilcock naysayers: A couple of weeks after the first Financial Tyranny article appeared, giving the history of the fake bonds, a group was arrested in Italy with zillions of phoney dollar bonds:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/18/world/europe/italy-arrests-8-in-fake-us-treasury-bonds-scam.html

This is more than wishful thinking...

[gripreaper]

Wow, so Kimberly got her thread posted four hours before I did? She's probably going to get more "thanks" than me as well! Guess Paul will merge these threads at some point.

[spiritguide]

If OBAMA is caught in the sweep we should look at invalidating any laws or regulations he signed. Looking forward to the rest of the story and it's results in the hologram we live in.

:peace:

[Earth Angel]

still two threads and neither one of them getting the attention I thought they would........:confused:

[Alie]

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Massive, unprecedented ET interventions are completely disrupting any and all plans to start World War III, according to multiple whistleblowers. This and other fascinating developments suggest that 2012 may live up to many prophets' expectations.

[PLEASE NOTE: This investigation is undergoing dynamic updates, including new sections that will be uploaded as time permits. For this reason, please LINK to it and pull excerpts, but do not COPY and REPOST it, as it will be constantly changing. Thanks!]


Full article posted here...

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1035-divineintervention1

Much love to us all, always in all ways :grouphug:

I am listening to David's Whistleblower interview from last night 3-28-12 with Drake.

First six minutes --- as I am listening to the "tone" of this man, he seems believable. (My audio standard for believability is Bob Dean). This "seems" very important so you might want to listen.

http://divinecosmos.com/media/DivineCosmosDrakePart01.MP3.zip
http://divinecosmos.com/media/DivineCosmosDrakePart02.MP3.zip
http://divinecosmos.com/media/DivineCosmosDrakePart03.MP3.zip

[Seikou-Kishi]

Sound too much like hopeful thinking.
I would avoid relaying our fate into the hands of 'helpful' alien beings.
It is us for the good and bad.

World events are not limited to UK+USA. We are much more then that. Most of the human population is in Asia.

I've thought that so many times

[aranuk]

I hope as many people as possible hear the interview David Wilcock had with Drake a military insider. Listen to it it is a terrific eye opener.

Stan

http://divinecosmos.com/media/DivineCosmosDrakePart01.MP3.zip

http://divinecosmos.com/media/DivineCosmosDrakePart02.MP3.zip

http://divinecosmos.com/media/DivineCosmosDrakePart03.MP3.zip

Alie I just saw you had posted the same! I am listening now to second one.

[aranuk]

This interview is the best news I have ever heard. Everyone here should listen. Each part is around 1 hour.



http://divinecosmos.com/media/DivineCosmosDrakePart01.MP3.zip

http://divinecosmos.com/media/DivineCosmosDrakePart02.MP3.zip

http://divinecosmos.com/media/DivineCosmosDrakePart03.MP3.zip

Stan

[foreverfan]

Good lord I've got to wait until is unzips? This better be good. LOL

[alxz]

downloading!!!

[aranuk]

Foreverfan It is worth every second you wait for all three download I can assure you.

Stan

[Calz]

Good job Stan :thumb:

[aranuk]

Hi Calz, have you listened to it yet? I'm dying to chat about it before I go to bed it is now nearly 4am and listening to it has awakened me up.
It's nothing but good news for the great American people and the rest of us on this great and magnificent planet we call Earth.

Stan

[aranuk]

Drake and his group of REAL white hats can be found at their website here http://freedomreigns.us/
But please hear the interview first it is great news.

Stan

[Calz]

Hi Calz, have you listened to it yet? I'm dying to chat about it before I go to bed it is now nearly 4am and listening to it has awakened me up.
It's nothing but good news for the great American people and the rest of us on this great and magnificent planet we call Earth.

Stan

Nope but I read what was suggested to be coming and I salute you for putting it out there.

Tired of Wilcock being trashed. Stopped posting in these threads but wanted to thank you beyond the "thank you".

I will listen as soon as time permits.

Cal

[foreverfan]

Foreverfan It is worth every second you wait for all three download I can assure you.

Stan

Heard this dude on youtube the other day. Talks a lot but doesn't say much. I'm interested and listening. Oh yea... stock up on toilet paper. LOL

[aranuk]

Foreverfan It is worth every second you wait for all three download I can assure you.

Stan

Heard this dude on youtube the other day. Talks a lot but doesn't say much. I'm interested and listening. Oh yea... stock up on toilet paper. LOL

I'm sure Ron Paul would listen to it before he made stupid comments about it like you do mate.

Stan

[Kimberley]

Drake and his group of REAL white hats can be found at their website here http://freedomreigns.us/
But please hear the interview first it is great news.

Stan

I can not wait to listen in my morning... it is almost midnight for me.. and I need to sleep... geez the info that is coming in gang busters is hard to keep up with..I am doing my best to keep up and thank you Stan and all that have your eyes wide open!!!

Much love to us all!!! :grouphug:

[ThePythonicCow]

Wow, so Kimberly got her thread posted four hours before I did? She's probably going to get more "thanks" than me as well! Guess Paul will merge these threads at some point.

Merge done :).

[ThePythonicCow]

This interview is the best news I have ever heard. Everyone here should listen. Each part is around 1 hour.
I merged this thread as well, Stan. Hope that's appropriate.

[foreverfan]

Foreverfan It is worth every second you wait for all three download I can assure you.

Stan

Heard this dude on youtube the other day. Talks a lot but doesn't say much. I'm interested and listening. Oh yea... stock up on toilet paper. LOL

I'm sure Ron Paul would listen to it before he made stupid comments about it like you do mate.

Stan


LOL... Sorry... He spoke for 3 hours the other day and took forever to get to the point. In fairness to him, it was his 2nd show and must have already gone over all of this stuff. He was telling you what you needed to do to be prepared for the event.

He did say the army takeover may happen in under 3 weeks and that he's be disappointed if it didn't. He recommended that you buy toilet paper if you see it on sale because it might not be there for a few weeks. Don't worry... he'll get to that.

I listened to the stuff you posted for 30 minutes and finally he started to make his point. In any case, then it got real good. What he says is pretty incredible. I listened to the 1st hour tonight. Thanks for posting.

Trust me... get the toilet paper. It won't go to waste.

[gripreaper]

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[Blueskywalking]

This interview is the best news I have ever heard. Everyone here should listen. Each part is around 1 hour.



http://divinecosmos.com/media/Divine...Part01.MP3.zip

http://divinecosmos.com/media/Divine...Part02.MP3.zip

http://divinecosmos.com/media/Divine...Part03.MP3.zip

Best damn news I have heard in ages. Period.

I'm going to go climb the little hill behind my cabin and dance in the sunset... :hippie:

[jaybee]

This interview is the best news I have ever heard. Everyone here should listen. Each part is around 1 hour.



http://divinecosmos.com/media/DivineCosmosDrakePart01.MP3.zip

http://divinecosmos.com/media/DivineCosmosDrakePart02.MP3.zip

http://divinecosmos.com/media/DivineCosmosDrakePart03.MP3.zip

Stan


thanks....will listen asap......



I appreciate David's work and thank him for all that he is and does.


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I'm going to go climb the little hill behind my cabin and dance in the sunset... :hippie:


LOL...nice one....;)

[Daozen]

Yep that's an epic interview. The most amazing and uplifting talk I've heard in ages. Now we have some evidence to mail to friends and family WHEN this goes down.

Kauilapele posts an easier to download version:

http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/

Viva The White Hats

[crosby]

thanks everyone for the uploads and information. listening to part 1 now before i go to work. i am super excited! will have to listen to parts 2 and 3 after work this evening.
warmest regards, corson

[transiten]

Hi!

Whether David is right or not i synchronistically am tied in with his information. Have not been on the forum for a very long time due to the bullying he was exposed to in another thread coinciding with my own healthproblems...as i popped in the other day i had 2 PM:s that warmed my frozen heart:grouphug: coinciding with me feeling a lot better...and here i find this info without even checking into divinecosmos! Suppose it's because the divine cosmos is to be found egverywhere;) Made my day. Also Mercury is retrograde, that's when you hear from pple long gone:cool:

Namaste from transiten

[S-L]

I'm super excited too! Wow! So everything is going to be okay? We're all going to be fine, right? Light will win out over evil? Perhaps if we all think really good thoughts! Maybe in 3 weeks? Gee, I hope this anonymous insider and his website are right! This is such a relief... I love good news. In fact, I want to hear nothing but good news. Bad news upsets me :( It makes me feel hopeless. I want good news, good vibes, good intentions, good everything! And good energy! It's all about light, love, and good energy. Wow, this alternative community stuff is so easy. Now I finally get it. Good news and good vibes.

And who cares if none of this pans out! They've been working on this for 33 years. We can give them another 33, right? And if somehow this doesn't work out - through no fault of Wilcock of course - it's okay. We can find another person in the white hat community who will tell us everything is fine and we're going to win. If it does not, it's because we didn't manifest it hard enough. Damn nay sayers - they ruin everything! :(

Okay here's the plan! We're going to salivate at every morsel of good news, then talk about it a whole lot, then we're going to put our INTENTIONS behind it, and that's it! Why do anything else? This is so exciting :) I'm so excited. The powers that be will never be able to dupe me. I'm so discerning. Every piece of good news, no matter how farfetched (especially fulford) I'll take at face value. Every piece of bad or concerning news, I'll question, attack, and deny. The powers that be will surely fail! This is my plan. Who will join me? I'm pretty convinced that this is the smartest thing to do right now. If it doesn't work, then we'll just wait for someone else to save us. Aliens might :) They've come all this way... it's to save us, right? Right guys...? Because the alternative is so scary :( I'm going to choose to believe in GOOD STUFF only. Good aliens! Good insiders! Good white hats! Woo! This alternative community stuff is easy!

Why would Bill Ryan bother visiting this forum? Or anyone? It's filled with feel-good disinformation meant to disable you. Most of you simply want to be saved. You are too afraid of the alternative. You will believe everything and anything that confirms this, and you will deny and attack anything that does not. It's a psychological weakness for humans generally, but Avalonians especially. You are so desperate to be saved. By anyone! You've faced reality, you're awake, but it's a scary world and now that you know, you're terrified of what you know. So you cling to heroes and saviours and feel good stories.

So unwise.

You are being manipulated, but you will attack anyone that points this out. You need to awaken a second time. You need discernment! You have none! You believe nearly anything that feels good and looks good. The powers that be are not afraid of you. They laugh at you. They manipulate you with feel good stories!

WAKE UP AND STOP BELIEVING EVERYTHING YOU READ, NO MATTER HOW HOPEFUL AND GOOD IT FEELS!

[Eram]

I'm super excited too! Wow!
WAKE UP AND STOP BELIEVING EVERYTHING YOU READ, NO MATTER HOW HOPEFUL AND GOOD IT FEELS!

So.... What do you think is the truth?

[Endity]

I rather live a life full of hope than one full of dread. We need help either way whether it is from within our selves or from an outside source. I think any positive news even if it is fictional can be good. Vibrations of a positive hopeful feeling change the world that you percieve around you. This in it self to me = changing the world one good thought at a time.

[Muzz]

Be wary of living in hope. Everything stays just beyond your fingertips. :)

How did this pan out.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/55/Barack_Obama_Hope_poster.jpg/220px-Barack_Obama_Hope_poster.jpg

[mountain_jim]

Have not listened yet.

But it seems to me, if humanity is going to throw off the stranglehold of the corrupt in power, we will need the help of 'white hats' in the Pentagon and Military and National Security apparatus to do their duty and arrest the insiders who have totally subverted our system of government and Constitution here in the USA.

Because on 3d Earth that's where the POWER still resides.

So I do HOPE there is some truth behind this story because it's what I sense is needed.

Regardless my TRUTH comes from within and it's nature is Divine LOVE, of and from the ONE which we all are a part of. Resonating that and my perceived need for all to have a chance to learn the TRUTH is one way I contribute to the needed changes in this reality-game.

Cynicism and disparagment of the hopeful won't get you very far either in accomplishing the needed Changes, I suggest.

[miqeel]

"We now know that the plan for mass arrests has been very actively in the works for at least 33 years"

conk, that number struck me pretty strong as well. interesting synchronicity imho

[xbusymom]

But, but... but I thought the aliens had a policy of non-interference/ non-intervention...

guess I have to schedule time this weekend to look at it...

[aranuk]

The interview did not say sit on your arse and do nothing. On the contrary we were told to take an active part in our local community. Copy and send the link to everywhere you can think of. When the troops start arresting people don't panic and stay calm, don't squeeze the trigger. Don't form lynch mobs. There will be fair trials for all the bastards. And fair and just punishment also I hope. This will be up to us no doubt. The way I see it is that if there are no white hats on our side we are all fckued. We then can only hope there will be extra terrestial help. This doesn't seem to be the case at all as far as Drake says. Not only do we have the white hats we also have the "other" help as well. Drake sounded to me like a man we can trust.

Stan

[YvonneG]

Kimberley, not sure how you find these things so quickly...I was just looking for this interview and couldn't find. You rock girl!

As for believing David, well, we should not believe everything anyone says remembering they are relating what they were told. But David is a major investigative reporter who so much of what he has reported corresponds with all my research over the last years. This new Divine intervention article comes in on the same wave of Ben's latest announcement. And although many would poo-poo the Japanese Martial Arts guy, I can tell you that I have spoken to several friends who practice martial arts and it is not far fetched at all for the Practioners of these arts, especially in Japan and Asia to rise up and do something if needed.

THIS MAKES MORE SENSE than for those who could do something of this nature, including our Oath Keeper friends, to not do it. I have it from a very good source that we are protected and that if the powers that be try anything they won;t be able to get away with it.

So there are so many "sources" saying the same thing.

In a very real way those who want to put down David or whatever are creating their own realities of fear right in the moment. Why not just don't believe it but take a wait and see attitude instead of venting your fears and doubts? No one asks anyone to believe. I have not believed anything for very long. I have spent several years both online and offline with people I personally know, and what I know for sure is that something is coming down and there are too many correspondents for all of it to not be so.

My faith is in the Great Mystery of which we are all a part. There is Love in the World, why would prefer to give our energies to the negative?

Be well
Yvonne

[aranuk]

Foreverfan It is worth every second you wait for all three download I can assure you.

Stan

Heard this dude on youtube the other day. Talks a lot but doesn't say much. I'm interested and listening. Oh yea... stock up on toilet paper. LOL

I'm sure Ron Paul would listen to it before he made stupid comments about it like you do mate.

Stan


LOL... Sorry... He spoke for 3 hours the other day and took forever to get to the point. In fairness to him, it was his 2nd show and must have already gone over all of this stuff. He was telling you what you needed to do to be prepared for the event.

He did say the army takeover may happen in under 3 weeks and that he's be disappointed if it didn't. He recommended that you buy toilet paper if you see it on sale because it might not be there for a few weeks. Don't worry... he'll get to that.

I listened to the stuff you posted for 30 minutes and finally he started to make his point. In any case, then it got real good. What he says is pretty incredible. I listened to the 1st hour tonight. Thanks for posting.

Trust me... get the toilet paper. It won't go to waste.

Hi FEF, where did he say the takeover would be within 3 weeks? I missed that bit. Glad you are enjoying listening mate.

Stan

[Endity]

I agree. I suppose I just meant that I rather live in hope than in fear. Both have their bad points if taken to the extreme. Def Obama manipulated many people with that word of hope. :<

Be wary of living in hope. Everything stays just beyond your fingertips. :)

How did this pan out.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/55/Barack_Obama_Hope_poster.jpg/220px-Barack_Obama_Hope_poster.jpg

PS I am currently downloading the first part sucks major that I am on dial up. Going to take me 5 hours to download the first one. Downloading at 3.39kbs /cry

[aranuk]

But, but... but I thought the aliens had a policy of non-interference/ non-intervention...

guess I have to schedule time this weekend to look at it...

Hi xbusy mum, According to David Wilcock that directive has now been superceded.

Stan

[Muzz]

Hi Endity
Given a choice between the two I would be the same as you. I have hopes too. My point was that too much hope in ones life could be an error and cause people to switch off.

[Earth Angel]

after investing many hours in listening to Bill Wood,and finding his promise of big news in part 2 distinctly lacking, I am a bit leery about investing 3 hours in this.......those of you who have listened, is it worth it? and other than a stockpiling of toilet paper, which I always do (Somehow having lots of toilet paper makes me feel safer in the world ;))....what else??

[aranuk]

Be wary of living in hope. Everything stays just beyond your fingertips. :)

How did this pan out.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/55/Barack_Obama_Hope_poster.jpg/220px-Barack_Obama_Hope_poster.jpg

Hi Murray, living with hope is a finer thing than living without hope. Without hope nothing realistic can be achieved. Without hope there is no tomorrow. I hope my children and grandchildren can live in a better world that we have today. Please don't try to destroy my hope and also that of others as I and others may take offence. Please preach your negativity somewhere else but not here.

Stan

[Carmody]

If OBAMA is caught in the sweep we should look at invalidating any laws or regulations he signed. Looking forward to the rest of the story and it's results in the hologram we live in.

:peace:

Any laws or situations that Bush enabled, for that was at least as clearly a debacle and falsehood as this one, if not moreso.

[Carmody]

Be wary of living in hope. Everything stays just beyond your fingertips. :)

How did this pan out.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/55/Barack_Obama_Hope_poster.jpg/220px-Barack_Obama_Hope_poster.jpg

Hi Murray, living with hope is a finer thing than living without hope. Without hope nothing realistic can be achieved. Without hope there is no tomorrow. I hope my children and grandchildren can live in a better world that we have today. Please don't try to destroy my hope and also that of others as I and others may take offence. Please preach your negativity somewhere else but not here.

Stan

Yes, the trick is hope for the best, but act or prepare for action based upon the worst in potentials. Not that one should live only in the negative, for a negative state of being and mind...that is not going to work, either.

It is a tough balance for some people but it is one of the more realistic paths of mental rumination.

[Muzz]

Hi Stan

As I said above I have hopes too. I wasnt saying it was all bad. But in the context of this thread I am concerned that some people living in hope that salvation is just round the corner could be disempowering. I probably didnt make my point very well. And it was not my intention to be negative. If I have offended you then I appologize.

Murray

[Endity]

Yea I def did not take what Murray said as anything negative. Its hard tbh to get clear precise thought through forum threads at times so sometimes things are taken out of context in the wrong way. I def understand what murray is saying about disempowering.

[araucaria]

wow, another book in the making.......

I am sick and tired of people getting dissed for writing books. The pen is still one of the few things mightier than the sword and if whenever I have a choice betwsen buying a book to express my interest and appreciation or press a donate button, I will buy the book, knowing that I will learn something.

[aranuk]

Thanks Murray, it goes without saying really that we must keep vigilant in everything we do and think. I too am cautious about false hope. No need for it. Unrealistic hope is futile. We all know this. However realistic hope is not negative. You and I both live in bonny Scotland, a country which in the last few years is becoming a fascist state sort of following in America's footsteps. I hope we can overturn this insanity around and that is not unrealistic. The politicians will not be the ones to do this unfortunately. Personally I think the white hats in the Pentagon are far more numerous by comparison to the white hats in the British armed forces. I also think our freedom will come through the American libertyship. It will spread from there. At least that is my hope.

Stan

[Earth Angel]

having a bad day are we??? if you noticed I thanked Kimberly for the opening post and I was not in anyway dissing people writing books........i have read every word he wrote......have a good one




wow, another book in the making.......

I am sick and tired of people getting dissed for writing books. The pen is still one of the few things mightier than the sword and if whenever I have a choice betwsen buying a book to express my interest and appreciation or press a donate button, I will buy the book, knowing that I will learn something.

the pen may be mightier than the sword but the written word is obviously open to misinterpretation

[jackovesk]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_PLWqnfFgU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_PLWqnfFgU

:pound:

[Carmody]

having a bad day are we??? if you noticed I thanked Kimberly for the opening post and I was not in anyway dissing people writing books........i have read every word he wrote......have a good one




wow, another book in the making.......

I am sick and tired of people getting dissed for writing books. The pen is still one of the few things mightier than the sword and if whenever I have a choice between buying a book to express my interest and appreciation or press a donate button, I will buy the book, knowing that I will learn something.

The way that good communication works, is that the context of one's comment is clearly stated so that miscommunication is not possible.

You set yourself up for that one.

The problem is that potential for a comment to be taken negatively, this is exactly how those who disrupt forums (and people's lives)....work. They purposely indulge in miscommunication.

This is a high art in some circles. A minimum of ambiguity and duality in meaning in their acts of communication, so that they can be used to disrupt while appearing to be honest and decent.

Politicians and their speech writers are quite experienced in these matters of miscommunication as a way of life and being.

So we must be ever vigilant about unspoken parts or thinking that can come from someone reading our words.

[Earth Angel]

perhaps a smiley face was needed..........:p



having a bad day are we??? if you noticed I thanked Kimberly for the opening post and I was not in anyway dissing people writing books........i have read every word he wrote......have a good one




wow, another book in the making.......

I am sick and tired of people getting dissed for writing books. The pen is still one of the few things mightier than the sword and if whenever I have a choice between buying a book to express my interest and appreciation or press a donate button, I will buy the book, knowing that I will learn something.

The way that good communication works, is that the context of one's comment is clearly stated so that miscommunication is not possible.

You set yourself up for that one.

The problem is that potential for a comment to be taken negatively, this is exactly how those who disrupt forums (and people's lives)....work. They purposely indulge in miscommunication.

This is a high art in some circles.

Politicians and their speech writers are quite experienced in these matters of miscommunicaiton as a way of life and being.

So we must be ever vigilant about unspoken parts or thinking that can come from someone reading our words.

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_PLWqnfFgU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_PLWqnfFgU

:pound:

Am I the only one that effing loves Tiny Tim?

[aranuk]

There seems to be a wee bit of disruption going on here. Could those involved desist and have a wee bit of respect for others here.

Go to chat or somewhere else please.

Stan

[Alie]

after investing many hours in listening to Bill Wood,and finding his promise of big news in part 2 distinctly lacking, I am a bit leery about investing 3 hours in this.......those of you who have listened, is it worth it? and other than a stockpiling of toilet paper, which I always do (Somehow having lots of toilet paper makes me feel safer in the world ;))....what else??

Earth Angel, I too listened all those hours w/ Bill Wood so I don't blame the way you're thinking. I think you should listen 10 minutes and check the resonance. Because we can't read body language in most of the interviews we are offered, it boils down to voices resonating with our spirit. I listened and will listen again. It's not about "good news" -- it's more about preparation without panic. Actually, IMHO, if he is who he says he is, AND if he's aligned with who he says he is, AND if the plans roll out as he says they will ... then you need to be able to watch the unfolding (which won't be pretty) with calmness. That's what this 3 hours would do for you.

I'd say that it's for "leaders-in-training".

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

There seems to be a wee bit of disruption going on here. Could those involved desist and have a wee bit of respect for others here.

Go to chat or somewhere else please.

Stan

I was only trying lighten the mood. but i was waiting to finish the interview before i commented. The interviewee seems to have a great deal of integrity and i believe he believes what he is saying. He reminds me of david corso kind of. they're both pretty ornery and very fun to listen. I sincerely hope that the arrests of the ptw thugs come as soon as possible. I'll continue my emergency preparation plans until this either comes to fruition or the cabal implodes the economy. very interesting, all i can say is: I want to believe.

[foreverfan]

The full show is now on Youtube.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjZgsRt8PBc

[onawah]

I just finished listening to this latest interview, and I think it's fairly convincing.
The number of bankster resignations is certainly encouraging evidence that something is going on.
I like the way DW wraps up the interview, citing the unexplained jamming of weapons, the current relevance of the seminal movie The Day the Earth Stood Still, and the incident of the highly sophisticated "unhackable" RK170 sentinel drone craft that Iran was able to ground (and sent photographs to the US to prove they had done so), which seems to suggest that the balance of power is changing and the ETs may indeed be assisting in ways they have not done before.
I look forward to reading more in the Divine Intervention article DW is still working on.
I hope he has more verifiable evidence.
In any case, the story is feeling a bit more grounded now and more on track.
I wonder if what Bob Dean said about the "3rd element" is indicative of why things seem to be getting more coherent.
He said this third group of ETs or EDs are not involved in the disagreements of various other ET factions who are here to help but do not seem to be quite in synch.
That their goal is simply to ensure that humankind is freed from the long enslavement and deception of thousands of years.
Perhaps their influence is helping to organize and make the whole effort more effective and efficient.
It feels more like there is perhaps some more concerted intelligence at the wheel now.

[aranuk]

Absolutely Onawah

Stan

[Kimberley]

I have not listened to the full David & Drake interview yet...although I have already listened to Drake several times in the past couple of weeks... He did an interview on March 18th and March 25th ... He seems to be affiliated with Freedom Reigns website: http://freedomreigns.us/



Uploaded by spnmn36 on Mar 18, 2012

Deatra hosts with guest Drake. Drake explains that The People have given civilian authority to the services to make changes to bring us back to the true government for and by the people. Drake also warns everyone to not miss read what is going on. They are NOT coming for the people the cabals time is up! Please prepare for the coming "good" change that is coming. Please make this VIRAL!
link to original show downloadable audio http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/03/18/freedom-reigns
The foundation has been made. All that is needed is YOU!
Get active, get involved! Opened to all Americans. If you wish to get involved send me a message. Regular everyday people are needed to give their opinion and voice.
freedom reigns website: http://freedomreigns.us/


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And here is the link to March 25 2012 show downloadable audio


today Drake will be addressing ALL military especially in light of the newest 2 exec orders Obams signed past Friday


http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/03/25/freedom-reigns


I am figuring that David's interview will be a lot of repeat of what I have already listened too, however I am also sure I will learn something new... so will report back after completing my listen... For example I already know the toilet paper part of Drake's message ;) and I resonate with his information.


Much love to us all!! :grouphug:

[spiritguide]

The main message that came through this interview is to stay calm during the activity, be prepared for a shot period of disruption to our support systems and when called upon to help if needed to take out the trash. The oath keepers will maintain their sworn oath, we need just stand aside and allow them room and assistance to do it properly. There was never a doubt that such a plan was in existence and updated regularly for the protection of the people and Constitution, now there is no doubt this plan will be executed. I am an oath keeper and I will do my best to see this through to the end. At this point my allegiance is to the people and their Constitution.

:peace:

The lesson is simple, the SPIRIT is here as it has been all along, cherish it.

[aranuk]

The main message that came through this interview is to stay calm during the activity, be prepared for a shot period of disruption to our support systems and when called upon to help if needed to take out the trash. The oath keepers will maintain their sworn oath, we need just stand aside and allow them room and assistance to do it properly. There was never a doubt that such a plan was in existence and updated regularly for the protection of the people and Constitution, now there is no doubt this plan will be executed. I am an oath keeper and I will do my best to see this through to the end. At this point my allegiance is to the people and their Constitution.

:peace:

The lesson is simple, the SPIRIT is here as it has been all along, cherish it.

Hi Spiritguide, my sentiments too! This is History in the making. I know my country has been recently descending into Fascism. It has given me distress to think how bad it could get before the people got off their arses and did something. In my locality I seem to be a lone voice. Other people are so far gone in the brain washing. The help seems to be coming from America. History is trying to repeat itself. If America hadn't helped us during the war we would be a nazi state. Thanks in advance to the Americans.

Stan

[gripreaper]

Sovereign Immunity of a Nation State:

Drake mentioned that he filed documents with The Hague, extricating himself from the corporate government and became a sovereign state. This is an area he said he has researched back to Sumeria and Ecclesiastical Law. Here in America, there have been many attempts to extricate oneself from the corprotocracy, and one needs to understand what happened in the bankruptcy of 1933, the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, the Reconstruction Act in 1861 and 14th amendment, the War of 1812, and the original Articles of Confederation and the formation of this republic from the beginning. One should then back engineer to the British Empire, the City of London, Common law, and back to the Vatican and Roman times, and even further to understand how tyranny has infiltrated and been prevalent is all societies, with the resultant attempts at freedom alongside it.

It should be no secret that tyranny has been awake and busy for thousands of years and infiltrates all commerce, corporations, militaries, governments, media, and every aspect of societies all around the world. That which we are attempting to unseat is imbedded in our very DNA, all of the structural underpinnings of society, our belief systems, and our very survival.

So, apparently, the pentagon contacted Drake whence they realized he has sovereign immunity and was no longer a 14th amendment citizen. This is something that we all need to do, and needs to reach critical mass. In order to extricate oneself from being a corporate employee, all adhesion contracts need to be rescinded, which includes the birth certificate, US citizenship, drivers licenses, social security, and all ability to operate within commerce as it is currently set up.

This is a very tall order for most people, as they need to be fully self determined and self responsible for all of their needs, and no longer receiving any of the benefits or privileges that go along with being an indentured slave. I caution anyone who is attempting to follow in Drake’s shoes, as these protocols are not easy and require a resolve which most do not have.

Suffice it to say, if you are under contract with the corporate government, operate in commerce, have a social security number, or are otherwise in relationship to the current system, you do not have immunity. So, you are subject to the statutes, regulations, and rules which accompany this, and mandates by executive order are legal within the framework of the corporation and are subject to interpretation, based on a court system which is totally about “creditors and debtors” and who is going to pay, which is you.

The Hague:

The Hague is a global system of governance and courts, and I don’t know that much about it, other than to say that I don’t see much in the way of indictments, convictions, or their power among nations. I don’t know if The Hague is outside the jurisdiction of the corportocracy and is not subverted in some way by the cabal, and is able to operate without undue influence by those with all the power. I know that Interpol is the police force which supports The Hague, and has jurisdiction among all international arrests. Whether or not The Hague would be impartial in their courts upon trying international criminals, I would have to see. I’m hoping that someone will pick up on this point and expand upon The Hague, their functions and their ability to move with conviction as such a global alliance stands with them and the national militaries around the world that are part of the alliance to bring the criminals to justice.

Arresting the criminals:

This is anybody’s guess as to how smooth or how rough this will be, if it occurs at all. Those who have been in power for thousands of years will not go quietly into the night. They have been preparing for this as well, and have their own agendas as to how to deal with such a coup, global economic collapse, wars, bio eugenics, to name a few. It’s a delicate balance and I hope that those who are in alliance can remain calm and level headed and that this transition can be as smooth as possible.

Preparation:

Being prepared has been discussed on many a thread here at Avalon and should have been a part of your plans for at least the last three or four years. Of course, a supply of long term food, water and fuel are paramount, as well as securing your assets and being out of debt. Continue reading and researching into how to extricate oneself and become sovereign is a good thing to do as well.

Conclusion:

I’m encouraged, with certain caveats. I think we need to reach a critical mass of those who have become sovereign and have extricated themselves from the cabal control system, in order to have the strength and resolve to make such a gargantuan global transformation. Yes, it is possible and yes, it is underway. We all need to get on board and do our part. I have links and resources for those who wish to look into how to become a sovereign, which is not the scope of this thread.

[Kimberley]

************
Update with Drake Thu, Mar 29, 2012 ! Jump to 65:00

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/03/29/jim-duensingfreedom-reigns

[mountain_jim]

I have now listened to the first 2 hours. My partner listened for a few minutes and believes 'Drake' is really Jim Marrs.

Anyone else here that? :)

I think it's somebody from a similar area in the US, with similar vocal characteristics.

[Normalguy31]

I'm super excited too! Wow! So everything is going to be okay? We're all going to be fine, right? Light will win out over evil? Perhaps if we all think really good thoughts! Maybe in 3 weeks? Gee, I hope this anonymous insider and his website are right! This is such a relief... I love good news. In fact, I want to hear nothing but good news. Bad news upsets me :( It makes me feel hopeless. I want good news, good vibes, good intentions, good everything! And good energy! It's all about light, love, and good energy. Wow, this alternative community stuff is so easy. Now I finally get it. Good news and good vibes.

And who cares if none of this pans out! They've been working on this for 33 years. We can give them another 33, right? And if somehow this doesn't work out - through no fault of Wilcock of course - it's okay. We can find another person in the white hat community who will tell us everything is fine and we're going to win. If it does not, it's because we didn't manifest it hard enough. Damn nay sayers - they ruin everything! :(

Okay here's the plan! We're going to salivate at every morsel of good news, then talk about it a whole lot, then we're going to put our INTENTIONS behind it, and that's it! Why do anything else? This is so exciting :) I'm so excited. The powers that be will never be able to dupe me. I'm so discerning. Every piece of good news, no matter how farfetched (especially fulford) I'll take at face value. Every piece of bad or concerning news, I'll question, attack, and deny. The powers that be will surely fail! This is my plan. Who will join me? I'm pretty convinced that this is the smartest thing to do right now. If it doesn't work, then we'll just wait for someone else to save us. Aliens might :) They've come all this way... it's to save us, right? Right guys...? Because the alternative is so scary :( I'm going to choose to believe in GOOD STUFF only. Good aliens! Good insiders! Good white hats! Woo! This alternative community stuff is easy!

Why would Bill Ryan bother visiting this forum? Or anyone? It's filled with feel-good disinformation meant to disable you. Most of you simply want to be saved. You are too afraid of the alternative. You will believe everything and anything that confirms this, and you will deny and attack anything that does not. It's a psychological weakness for humans generally, but Avalonians especially. You are so desperate to be saved. By anyone! You've faced reality, you're awake, but it's a scary world and now that you know, you're terrified of what you know. So you cling to heroes and saviours and feel good stories.

So unwise.

You are being manipulated, but you will attack anyone that points this out. You need to awaken a second time. You need discernment! You have none! You believe nearly anything that feels good and looks good. The powers that be are not afraid of you. They laugh at you. They manipulate you with feel good stories!

WAKE UP AND STOP BELIEVING EVERYTHING YOU READ, NO MATTER HOW HOPEFUL AND GOOD IT FEELS!

Such a dick. I agree with a lot you are saying.....but you're still a dick.

[gripreaper]

Why would Bill Ryan bother visiting this forum? Or anyone? It's filled with feel-good disinformation meant to disable you. Most of you simply want to be saved. You are too afraid of the alternative. You will believe everything and anything that confirms this, and you will deny and attack anything that does not. It's a psychological weakness for humans generally, but Avalonians especially. You are so desperate to be saved. By anyone! You've faced reality, you're awake, but it's a scary world and now that you know, you're terrified of what you know. So you cling to heroes and saviours and feel good stories.

So unwise.

You are being manipulated, but you will attack anyone that points this out. You need to awaken a second time. You need discernment! You have none! You believe nearly anything that feels good and looks good. The powers that be are not afraid of you. They laugh at you. They manipulate you with feel good stories!

WAKE UP AND STOP BELIEVING EVERYTHING YOU READ, NO MATTER HOW HOPEFUL AND GOOD IT FEELS!

Such a dick. I agree with a lot you are saying.....but your still a dick.

Actually, I like irreverent humor laced with sarcasm, as sometimes that's the only way to get a point across. I was "with this" until it got to the last two paragraphs. It's okay to render an opinion, and it would be good to put "In My Opinion" in the opening line, but the attacks about how clueless Avalonian's are was totally uncool.

[Dennis Leahy]

Well, I'm convinced that "Drake" is convinced. In other words, my BS detector was quiet. If his info is crap, he believes it so thoroughly that he comes across as completely true. (I don't know diddly squat about 'lie detection' this is just me speaking from my gut feeling.)

I press forward with my plans to do "whatever I can", but I have to admit, (and you can call me a gullible dork, if you want), I am actually more hopeful right now - that the Dark Cabal really is going down - than I have ever been.

:~)

Dennis

[Normalguy31]

Why would Bill Ryan bother visiting this forum? Or anyone? It's filled with feel-good disinformation meant to disable you. Most of you simply want to be saved. You are too afraid of the alternative. You will believe everything and anything that confirms this, and you will deny and attack anything that does not. It's a psychological weakness for humans generally, but Avalonians especially. You are so desperate to be saved. By anyone! You've faced reality, you're awake, but it's a scary world and now that you know, you're terrified of what you know. So you cling to heroes and saviours and feel good stories.

So unwise.

You are being manipulated, but you will attack anyone that points this out. You need to awaken a second time. You need discernment! You have none! You believe nearly anything that feels good and looks good. The powers that be are not afraid of you. They laugh at you. They manipulate you with feel good stories!

WAKE UP AND STOP BELIEVING EVERYTHING YOU READ, NO MATTER HOW HOPEFUL AND GOOD IT FEELS!

Such a dick. I agree with a lot you are saying.....but your still a dick.

Actually, I like irreverent humor laced with sarcasm, as sometimes that's the only way to get a point across. I was "with this" until it got to the last two paragraphs. It's okay to render an opinion, and it would be good to put "In My Opinion" in the opening line, but the attacks about how clueless Avalonian's are was totally uncool.

I mean I can be a sarcastic asshole sometimes. I love a good satirical comment, but it wasn't even that clever. "Wow this alternative community stuff is easy!" Yeah....great. I definitely got it the first time. Step your game up.

[Mike]

I'm super excited too! Wow! So everything is going to be okay? We're all going to be fine, right? Light will win out over evil? Perhaps if we all think really good thoughts! Maybe in 3 weeks? Gee, I hope this anonymous insider and his website are right! This is such a relief... I love good news. In fact, I want to hear nothing but good news. Bad news upsets me :( It makes me feel hopeless. I want good news, good vibes, good intentions, good everything! And good energy! It's all about light, love, and good energy. Wow, this alternative community stuff is so easy. Now I finally get it. Good news and good vibes.

And who cares if none of this pans out! They've been working on this for 33 years. We can give them another 33, right? And if somehow this doesn't work out - through no fault of Wilcock of course - it's okay. We can find another person in the white hat community who will tell us everything is fine and we're going to win. If it does not, it's because we didn't manifest it hard enough. Damn nay sayers - they ruin everything! :(

Okay here's the plan! We're going to salivate at every morsel of good news, then talk about it a whole lot, then we're going to put our INTENTIONS behind it, and that's it! Why do anything else? This is so exciting :) I'm so excited. The powers that be will never be able to dupe me. I'm so discerning. Every piece of good news, no matter how farfetched (especially fulford) I'll take at face value. Every piece of bad or concerning news, I'll question, attack, and deny. The powers that be will surely fail! This is my plan. Who will join me? I'm pretty convinced that this is the smartest thing to do right now. If it doesn't work, then we'll just wait for someone else to save us. Aliens might :) They've come all this way... it's to save us, right? Right guys...? Because the alternative is so scary :( I'm going to choose to believe in GOOD STUFF only. Good aliens! Good insiders! Good white hats! Woo! This alternative community stuff is easy!

Why would Bill Ryan bother visiting this forum? Or anyone? It's filled with feel-good disinformation meant to disable you. Most of you simply want to be saved. You are too afraid of the alternative. You will believe everything and anything that confirms this, and you will deny and attack anything that does not. It's a psychological weakness for humans generally, but Avalonians especially. You are so desperate to be saved. By anyone! You've faced reality, you're awake, but it's a scary world and now that you know, you're terrified of what you know. So you cling to heroes and saviours and feel good stories.

So unwise.

You are being manipulated, but you will attack anyone that points this out. You need to awaken a second time. You need discernment! You have none! You believe nearly anything that feels good and looks good. The powers that be are not afraid of you. They laugh at you. They manipulate you with feel good stories!

WAKE UP AND STOP BELIEVING EVERYTHING YOU READ, NO MATTER HOW HOPEFUL AND GOOD IT FEELS!

Such a dick. I agree with a lot you are saying.....but your still a dick.



it's "*you're* still a dick", WITH the apostrophe. not "*your* a dick." please go home and write that on your blackboard 100 times NormalGuy31. we mustn't be insulting with improper grammar.;)

and yes, i agree. he's being a dick.

[Kimberley]

I have now listened to the first 2 hours. My partner listened for a few minutes and believes 'Drake' is really Jim Marrs.

Anyone else here that? :)

I think it's somebody from a similar area in the US, with similar vocal characteristics.

OMG!!! your partner is correct...no doubt about it for me! I am great with voice recognition. I went back to my interview with Jim a year ago and wow I have no doubt that Drake is Jim? I just wrote to David asking for his input...as in why is Jim doing the Drake thing??

We shall see or not see...back at you later

Much love to us all and bring it on!!!

:grouphug:

[Kimberley]

And I have a request... can we please stop with the name calling and judgements??... I was taught if you do not have anything nice to say then be quiet....compliment in public and criticize in private... (that is if you feel you must criticize at all...do it in private...I personally chose to not judge or criticize...however that is me)

XO
Much love!!!

[gripreaper]

Well, I'm convinced that "Drake" is convinced. In other words, my BS detector was quiet. If his info is crap, he believes it so thoroughly that he comes across as completely true. (I don't know diddly squat about 'lie detection' this is just me speaking from my gut feeling.)

I press forward with my plans to do "whatever I can", but I have to admit, (and you can call me a gullible dork, if you want), I am actually more hopeful right now - that the Dark Cabal really is going down - than I have ever been.

:~)

Dennis

Dennis, Russell Means, the Lakota Indian, in his video "Welcome to the Reservation" discusses the idea of being a sovereign nation without the ability to operate in commerce, as extricating yourself from the matrix has it's caveats.

I highly recommend this video as a backdrop to this idea of overthrowing the cabal via Sovereign Immunity.

[DeDukshyn]

Sound too much like hopeful thinking.
I would avoid relaying our fate into the hands of 'helpful' alien beings.
It is us for the good and bad.

World events are not limited to UK+USA. We are much more then that. Most of the human population is in Asia.

If they're keeping distractions at bay so we can get our work done, more power to them. ;)

[Mike]

And I have a request... can we please stop with the name calling and judgements??... I was taught if you do not have anything nice to say then be quiet....compliment in public and criticize in private... (that is if you feel you must criticize at all...do it in private...I personal chose to not judge or criticize...however that is me)

XO
Much love!!!




sure thing, Kimberly.

sorry, i couldn't resist.;)

i'll be behaving nobly from here on out...

[Normalguy31]

I'm super excited too! Wow! So everything is going to be okay? We're all going to be fine, right? Light will win out over evil? Perhaps if we all think really good thoughts! Maybe in 3 weeks? Gee, I hope this anonymous insider and his website are right! This is such a relief... I love good news. In fact, I want to hear nothing but good news. Bad news upsets me :( It makes me feel hopeless. I want good news, good vibes, good intentions, good everything! And good energy! It's all about light, love, and good energy. Wow, this alternative community stuff is so easy. Now I finally get it. Good news and good vibes.

And who cares if none of this pans out! They've been working on this for 33 years. We can give them another 33, right? And if somehow this doesn't work out - through no fault of Wilcock of course - it's okay. We can find another person in the white hat community who will tell us everything is fine and we're going to win. If it does not, it's because we didn't manifest it hard enough. Damn nay sayers - they ruin everything! :(

Okay here's the plan! We're going to salivate at every morsel of good news, then talk about it a whole lot, then we're going to put our INTENTIONS behind it, and that's it! Why do anything else? This is so exciting :) I'm so excited. The powers that be will never be able to dupe me. I'm so discerning. Every piece of good news, no matter how farfetched (especially fulford) I'll take at face value. Every piece of bad or concerning news, I'll question, attack, and deny. The powers that be will surely fail! This is my plan. Who will join me? I'm pretty convinced that this is the smartest thing to do right now. If it doesn't work, then we'll just wait for someone else to save us. Aliens might :) They've come all this way... it's to save us, right? Right guys...? Because the alternative is so scary :( I'm going to choose to believe in GOOD STUFF only. Good aliens! Good insiders! Good white hats! Woo! This alternative community stuff is easy!

Why would Bill Ryan bother visiting this forum? Or anyone? It's filled with feel-good disinformation meant to disable you. Most of you simply want to be saved. You are too afraid of the alternative. You will believe everything and anything that confirms this, and you will deny and attack anything that does not. It's a psychological weakness for humans generally, but Avalonians especially. You are so desperate to be saved. By anyone! You've faced reality, you're awake, but it's a scary world and now that you know, you're terrified of what you know. So you cling to heroes and saviours and feel good stories.

So unwise.

You are being manipulated, but you will attack anyone that points this out. You need to awaken a second time. You need discernment! You have none! You believe nearly anything that feels good and looks good. The powers that be are not afraid of you. They laugh at you. They manipulate you with feel good stories!

WAKE UP AND STOP BELIEVING EVERYTHING YOU READ, NO MATTER HOW HOPEFUL AND GOOD IT FEELS!

Such a dick. I agree with a lot you are saying.....but your still a dick.



it's "*you're* still a dick", WITH the apostrophe. not "*your* a dick." please go home and write that on your blackboard 100 times NormalGuy31. we mustn't be insulting with improper grammar.;)

and yes, i agree. he's being a dick.

Hahahaha Thank you good sir. I get in a hurry sometimes. I hope you're having a nice day. *raises glass*

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And I have a request... can we please stop with the name calling and judgements??... I was taught if you do not have anything nice to say then be quiet....compliment in public and criticize in private... (that is if you feel you must criticize at all...do it in private...I personal chose to not judge or criticize...however that is me)

XO
Much love!!!

Sorry dear. Didn't mean to put a dampen on your thread. No more name calling.

[Mike]

*clink* (i could picture you writing your comment, just shaking your head, and it somehow sent me into fits of laughter :laugh:)

but we must behave now, for fear of Avalonian wrist slapping penalties.

[Normalguy31]

*clink* (i could picture you writing your comment, just shaking your head, and it just sent me into fits of laughter :laugh:)

but we must behave now, for fear of Avalonian wrist slapping penalties.


Spot on, but yes, absolute gentleman from here on out.

[Dennis Leahy]

Well, I'm convinced that "Drake" is convinced. In other words, my BS detector was quiet. If his info is crap, he believes it so thoroughly that he comes across as completely true. (I don't know diddly squat about 'lie detection' this is just me speaking from my gut feeling.)

I press forward with my plans to do "whatever I can", but I have to admit, (and you can call me a gullible dork, if you want), I am actually more hopeful right now - that the Dark Cabal really is going down - than I have ever been.

:~)

Dennis

Dennis, Russell Means, the Lakota Indian, in his video "Welcome to the Reservation" discusses the idea of being a sovereign nation without the ability to operate in commerce, as extricating yourself from the matrix has it's caveats.

I highly recommend this video as a backdrop to this idea of overthrowing the cabal via Sovereign Immunity.

If I heard correctly (I was programming during the 3 hours, so they did not get my undivided attention), the legal steps have already been taken by 'white hats' (gotta think up a new name for these beings, but it'll do for now) so the the US has already (on paper) just gained sovereign nation status. At first, I thought he was saying just State, then State by State, but I'm pretty sure I heard a couple times near the end that he is talking about "nation."

You know that scene in one of the Indiana Jones movies, where 'Indy' is confronted by a ninja warrior type? Clearly outmatched by the martial arts skills of the ninja, Indy pulls a gun and shoots him. That's what I think of our current legal system. The vast majority of federal judges are as crooked as the most crooked politician (that gave them their appointment to the bench.) You could walk into their courtroom, present a perfect, unassailable argument (about anything, including using the "sovereignty" angle), and if the judge wants you in a hell hole, you are found guilty. So, if there is not a MAJOR, HUGE change in the legal/judicial paradigm, having legal sovereignty (and being innocent) wouldn't be enough.

I have seen that Welcome to the Reservation video. Powerful.

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someone mentioned Americentric...

I'm sure for a lot of folks, this is - once again - just too damn Americentric, but hey, the US is the control panel, the operations center, for the Dark Cabal (especially as it pertains to global military action, global black-ops action, possibly to black-ops technology, and to a large extent, the global finance, energy, and pharma cabal subsets.) As Wade Frazer keeps reminding us, we need to hack at the roots, not the branches. Trust me, many US citizens are Americentrically guilt-ridden for being a citizen here and having thus far been completely ineffective in even slowing the Cabal down.

someone mentioned ETs..........
You know, this guy Drake was content to talk about the legal groundwork, the emplacement of white hats, and arrests (dammit, I hope to God someone figures out to replace the judges before any of these monsters are brought into a court of law.) David brought up the ETs jamming guns on the battlefield, not Drake. This is where I have to "hedge my bet" a bit, because until I am convinced the good ETs are more than 'watchers', I just don't believe it (regardless if I would like to or not.) Any ET that jams a gun or makes a missile impotent is welcome at my house for a big bowl of organic vegan soup. (BYO Jovian hot sauce.) If the ETs don't eat soup, but rather sip the etheric nectar of energy emanating from laughter and merriment, I will do my best to oblige.

Dennis

[lightseeker]

Dito Whitfeather, I bought my first home computer in August 2007 and discovered the internet, OMG. My world was changed for ever. I discovered David Wilcock the very day I had my computer up and running. He changed my whole paradigm of reality and it is still changing daily. I thank David for this and so many other dedicated souls who put themselves out on the internet to reveal truth at great risk to themselves. I would like to say this discovery of David was a coincidence but there is not such thing as a coincidence. I learned that one a long time ago.

[foreverfan]

So is it Jim Marrs? This is the question of the day and I thought a few more of you would chime in on this. He sounds close but his drawl is heavier. Close but no cigar.

I don't think it's Marrs.

[Saracatt]

I'm listening to the Drake interview now. Could someone explain why this would cause such a disruption-- ie needing to buy toilet paper? How long do you think this would last?

Thanks!

[gripreaper]

If I heard correctly (I was programming during the 3 hours, so they did not get my undivided attention), the legal steps have already been taken by 'white hats' (gotta think up a new name for these beings, but it'll do for now) so the the US has already (on paper) just gained sovereign nation status. At first, I thought he was saying just State, then State by State, but I'm pretty sure I heard a couple times near the end that he is talking about "nation."

Dennis

Well, I don't think so. The original 13 colonies were formed as independent states, and some of them retained this immunity through the adoption of their original constitutions. Yet most of the states gave up their independent status and wrote new corporate constitutions which are in effect to this day. I think Drake mentions this in the video, as one would need to go back to their original state constitution and check. So the idea is to rewind and go back to that very narrow window of time in the very early history of this country where there was a contingent of founding fathers who understood and drafted immunity into the Articles of Confederation, which were not drafted into the Constitution. Tyranny was already at work when the 1776 Constitution was signed.

So, the idea of sending a Declaration to the Hague to rescind your 14th amendment status strikes me as odd. If you go back to the Cestui Que Vie Trusts established in the 12th century, all property, and all of the "subjects" as well as their labor were placed into these trusts and the Vatican is the "beneficiary" of these trusts, so why would one go to the Hague for Immunity?

All resources flow upstream to the owners, who are the original bloodlines, via the Federal Reserve, then to the City of London, and then to the Vatican. I've never seen any documents from the Hague rescinding the Cestui Que Vie trusts, giving them global jurisdiction.

Santos Bonacci, for example, says you need to send the "Denique Ultimatum Reveror Verum" to the Vatican and break the energy of this trust in order to break free from the curse of this slavery, as an individual. i don't know how this works on a state or national level. I'm not convinced that there is any type of national alliance which has severed it's ties to the Vatican and revoked the original trusts.

The idea of resetting the paradigm back to some form of original state where nations and the individual returns to sovereign would need to unwind almost everything that has been done since the 12th century.

[Dennis Leahy]

So is it Jim Marrs? This is the question of the day and I thought a few more of you would chime in on this. He sounds close but his drawl is heavier. Close but no cigar.

I don't think it's Marrs.

I don't think it's Marrs either.

And, if someone actually does know who it is, well, you know the old saying, "loose lips get throats slashed." (So, I think it is not wise to speculate publicly.)

Dennis

[Kimberley]

decided to remove this... much love....

[aranuk]

I'm listening to the Drake interview now. Could someone explain why this would cause such a disruption-- ie needing to buy toilet paper? How long do you think this would last?

Thanks!

Depends. How much do you use each time? How long is a roll?

Stan

[Ron Mauer Sr]

I'm listening to the Drake interview now. Could someone explain why this would cause such a disruption-- ie needing to buy toilet paper? How long do you think this would last?

Thanks!

If you have food and water you will find toilet paper valuable. Without food and water, no toilet paper is needed.

[lilac]

Well, I thought the guy went a bit on about the TP, but seriously, has nobody here used water to wash your butt? I've got my rice and beans and gallons of water standing by, but there's no way I'm filling my car with toilet paper. What a luxury. If I had my own place, I think my preparations would include building an outhouse. Toilet paper suggests flushing toilets - you're that lucky, so why not use the bidet?

More importantly, I am thrilled with this interview. I'm not familiar enough with different American police forces and "marshalls", but the plan seems plausible. I do wonder why they would be coming out with this info now. If I was a cabal with a cash-stuffed mattress, wouldn't I be getting on the next plane? He did say that "the team" would have the authority to go and find guilty parties all over the globe.

I am reminded of the tv series Jericho. It was interesting to see people taking the law into their own hands. There was one faction claiming to be the "new authority". It took the folks awhile to figure out who was trustworthy. I can imagine that kind of treachery and chaos would prevail for some time.

At the same time, I have despaired in the past, wondering what happened to all the good, clever, brave people of America. As the lights go on, the awakening grows and people are going to be hopping mad. Given a plan, a little momentum and something to hope for, human beings can be amazingly resilient, courageous and powerful.

[EnergyGardener]

Thanks and great credit to David Wilcox for taking his great risks and ridicule, but now rewarded to be in such a historic circumstance to help bring this about.

Now soon for the actual result of what warriors have been lauded (without knowing they volunteered and were used and sacrificed against our cause): Our family, our friends, our soldiers, civilian volunteers, our Federal Marshals, led by the "Sacred Brass," that good part of the Pentagon—will actually execute the actions necessary to deliver us our freedom, technically, in defense of the U.S. Constitution. This most historic accomplishment for our country, planet, galaxy and universe, results from great effort, sacrifice, risk, intelligence, coordination and faith (in themselves, each other and humanity) by such a key group of servants from many countries and places. For they have remained loyal to us, realizing that in keeping their necessary secrecy, it has appeared that we have been completely compromised and abandoned. No doubt some have been discovered and have already paid the ultimate price.

Like we have declared on PA threads (and posted elsewhere): "MAKE THIS GO VIRAL by an unknown person / Step One - Removal of the Illuminati," by RomanWKT, humanity has decided and Commanded that Enough is Enough from these beings—and abdication of our responsibilities: No more tyranny, warring, murder (including ritualistic sacrifice), slavery, pollution, poisoning, disease, abductions, confiscation of wealth, energy and food dependency for impoverishment, subliminal programming and subversive entertainment, suppression of reality and consciousness, news suppression and disinformation, all for ignorance, idiocy, selfishness, greed and duality—the illusion of separation.

The Illuminati chapter / "Reptoid Culture" on Earth is over!

It is time to manifest the infinite good potential of our Humanity—even our universe—the salvation, restoration and beautification of our Garden, our Earth, our Gaia, the Living Library.

Within days our soldiers will be patrolling our streets to secure the peace during this transition, subsequent to completion of business by our ET/ED/T families with housecleaning of the reptoids, grays and those heartless human accomplices—that sold out humanity for their personal gain.

As stated by others within this thread, we must do our part to continue to pass this information on so loss of life and property are minimized; this is but the beginning of the next chapter.

How fortunate are we to be here! This is the celebrated development that so many of us came here to realize; it is such a relief to know we are not alone, even better to know we are supported and led at the most vital place for fidelity within societies: Our military leadership.

It is time for our new chapter of human and Earth reality to move forward. I sincerely thank and send my love to all of our ET/ED & Terrestrial brothers and sisters, including many of you for hanging in there, for working toward this result; you know who you are.

This is such an important step; keep the vision, meditate and pray toward the best possible outcome; there will be sacrifices by military, police and citizens, too.

Very soon we will talk openly with positive reception to an awakening human populace; yes, by those that even today cannot understand why we are so different. Lucky for them we are: We are so going to be required to calmly explain that a wonderful life is beginning, while they will just be learning of such horrific crimes committed and planned by so many former leaders; they will be stunned to watch such well-known figureheads marched off to meet their fate.

[Dennis Leahy]

...and do your own search for Jim Marrs videos...and listen for yourself... I have my own 60 minute interview with Jim from a year ago and I am great with voice recognition... I have been working with voices most of my life...

Much love!!

I will put together a side by side clip tomorrow.....I do not have time for it now/tonight!!!
Hi Kimberley,

Even though he deliberately used a pseudonym, and is trying to remain anonymous, and he even said that (at this point), white hats that get 'outed' risk having their families slaughtered, then themselves...

Seriously, don't you think speculating - publicly - on a whistleblower's real name and deliberately putting them in jeopardy (or even just making them impotent) is a really bad idea?


Dennis

[araucaria]

On the serious subject of the voice, we've already had a thread on lookalike disinfo where people didn't actually look all that alike. Soundalikes can be the same, and people were also at one stage assimilating Andrew Basiago with David Wilcock. So I rather think this is not going to go anywhere, if indeed it should.

On the lighter toilet issue of toilet tissue, I too found it a little out of place, overstated, unless it was intended to reduce the fear factor, needing the loo being a synonym for being afraid. Anyone looking for alternative technologies might like to check 16th century satirist Rabelais's Gargantua, where he devotes his chapter 43 to this subject. :)

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/1200/1200-h/1200-h.htm

[Billy]

Why would Bill Ryan bother visiting this forum? Or anyone? It's filled with feel-good disinformation meant to disable you. Most of you simply want to be saved. You are too afraid of the alternative. You will believe everything and anything that confirms this, and you will deny and attack anything that does not. It's a psychological weakness for humans generally, but Avalonians especially. You are so desperate to be saved. By anyone! You've faced reality, you're awake, but it's a scary world and now that you know, you're terrified of what you know. So you cling to heroes and saviours and feel good stories.

So unwise.

You are being manipulated, but you will attack anyone that points this out. You need to awaken a second time. You need discernment! You have none! You believe nearly anything that feels good and looks good. The powers that be are not afraid of you. They laugh at you. They manipulate you with feel good stories!

WAKE UP AND STOP BELIEVING EVERYTHING YOU READ, NO MATTER HOW HOPEFUL AND GOOD IT FEELS!

Great advise S-L and i promise never to read anything you write from here on. As you seem to like telling others what they NEED to do when you have no idea about who you are speaking with. Like many folks here in Avalon i do not base my beliefs on what i read here. I base my beliefs on my personal experiences throughout my journey of the soul over the last 57yrs in this life to date, and 69yrs in my last life. Please do not judge others through the mirror of your own eyes. what you say above is all about you. and you only.

regarding the highlighted "Anyone" why do you personally bother visiting this forum if it is all disinfo. hmmm

Peace

[Billy]

...and do your own search for Jim Marrs videos...and listen for yourself... I have my own 60 minute interview with Jim from a year ago and I am great with voice recognition... I have been working with voices most of my life...

Much love!!

I will put together a side by side clip tomorrow.....I do not have time for it now/tonight!!!
Hi Kimberley,

Even though he deliberately used a pseudonym, and is trying to remain anonymous, and he even said that (at this point), white hats that get 'outed' risk having their families slaughtered, then themselves...

Seriously, don't you think speculating - publicly - on a whistleblower's real name and deliberately putting them in jeopardy (or even just making them impotent) is a really bad idea?


Dennis

:stop: I have to agree with Dennis here, even if someone recognizes the voice of someone assisting humanity but this person wants to remain annonymous due to concern for family and friends around them. I would say it is our duty to respect their secret until that person feels within themselves that it is safe and time to reveal their true identity.

Until then :secret:

peace

PS I liked the Drake interview, Great to hear about the loophole in the law that allowed America to become sovereign again.

[mountain_jim]

Well I am sorry I brought it up, as I don't disagree with the points Dennis made.

It was only because I did not believe it was him that I said anything, just relaying what my partner said off-hand, and did not anticipate the dialogue that followed.

Lesson learned for me.

(later edit: ) However, if one is a public figure, with many audio and video interviews available online and on TV, with a distinctive voice, then it seems obvious that one should then have one's voice sound significantly altered to remain anonymous in a particular situation, rather than assuming that all who listen will keep their suspicions to themselves.

[foreverfan]

I'm not posting this to say that Nathan is or isn't Jim Marrs. Just thought this is a great video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THCDPSh3Xq0

[Hervé]

If it is Jim Marrs... CAVEAT:

Jim Marrs: Another Gatekeeper Shows His Colors (http://educate-yourself.org/cn/jimmarrsgatekeeper31may10.shtml)




Marrs' outrageous attempt to smear Cooper's discovery tells me much more about Jim Marrs than it does of William Cooper. Despite all of Marrs' books and acclaimed fame and adulation as a fearless journalist out to tell the "real" story about the conspiracy to assassinate Kennedy, Marrs is obviously a GATEKEEPER, of the same slick species seen in Noam Chomsky (http://www.educate-yourself.org/cn/noamchomskyindex.shtml).


Marrs employs ALL of the standard smear tactics used by debunkers to erect the shaky scaffolding upon which his disingenuous assertions rests.


For starters, Marrs informs us with an authority bordering on disdain, that Cooper's "theory" about Greer shooting Kennedy is "not true", because "it simply didn't happen". Right (I suppose we should be grateful that he just didn't stop right there and sign his name to the essay).



Then comes the best part: five paragraphs of absolute mush and slop masquerading as evidence to support HIS thesis (dare I say "theory"?).

[Kimberley]

Well I am sorry I brought it up, as I don't disagree with the points Dennis made.

It was only because I did not believe it was him that I said anything, just relaying what my partner said off-hand, and did not anticipate the dialogue that followed.

Lesson learned for me.

(later edit: ) However, if one is a public figure, with many audio and video interviews available online and on TV, with a distinctive voice, then it seems obvious that one should then have one's voice sound significantly altered to remain anonymous in a particular situation, rather than assuming that all who listen will keep their suspicions to themselves.



This is an interesting question and dilemma for me...When M-Jim brought up the question I had a spot on hit that the identity in mention was indeed said person... I have already publicly stated this.

I said I was going to put together a side by side clip....and if I did I suspect there would be few with any doubt, because with hours of audio from both parties available it would be so easy to do....anyway I have decided not to do that.

As Jim, Drake, David, myself and thousands if not millions of others say...Do Not believe me for a minute. Do your own research!!!

Now that said...Isn't the reason most of us here in Avalon post is to share the truth? Shine light on the issues? Question everything? Help each other confirm what they have come to understand? etc?

Aren't we trying to weed out the lies and the truth? So what do you suggest ?

Going back to the David W, Kerry C, fake Irishman. David W crying incident/interview...So many were put out of by the fake accent and therefore questioned the integrity of what he said. Or the Charles interviews with his back to the camera...etc... And now this Drake & Jim? question.

For me knowing the truth of the identity of "Drake" adds validity to what he is saying it does not take away. Although I can certainly understand why a pseudonym is useful or safer etc... However this time we have a prominent, easily voice recognized whistleblower giving a message with a pseudonym.

Are we on the outside here putting the puzzle pieces together day after day supposed to be quite about some of the pieces and not about other of the pieces ? It is a dilemma for sure.


A dilemma (Greek: δί-λημμα "double proposition") is a problem offering two possibilities, neither of which is practically acceptable. One in this position has been traditionally described as "being on the horns of a dilemma", neither horn

being comfortable. This is sometimes more colorfully described as "Finding oneself impaled upon the horns of a dilemma", referring to the sharp points of a bull's horns, equally uncomfortable (and dangerous).

The dilemma is sometimes used as a rhetorical device, in the form "you must accept either A, or B"; here A and B would be propositions each leading to some further conclusion. Applied incorrectly, it constitutes a false dichotomy, a fallacy.


Aren't we here working on lifting the vail and by doing so helping others to do so?

I do not have THE answer for you. I do have an answer for me, that is all that matters...

Howeve,r I suppose in this situation, since the proof for anyone that wants the truth is easily attainable, I will leave it at that...

Do Not believe a word anyone has to say and do your own research and come to your own understanding about EVERYTHING at ALL times.

Much love to us ALL. Always and in all ways! Congratulations!

I continue to stand tall and strong in Love & Peace.

:grouphug:

[gripreaper]

I liked the Drake interview, Great to hear about the loophole in the law that allowed America to become sovereign again.

What "loophole" in the Law that "allowed" America to become sovereign again? I must have missed that part. Do you remember which of the three hours it was talked and at what point in the hour so I can go find it, or, if you don't mind, could you explain it?

[EnergyGardener]

I believe there are differences in the voices. Drake could be any male Texan, or even from a nearby state.:confused:

The discussion of Drake's identity, as with the butt paper, are distractions that miss the infinite ramifications of the message: What is happening by ET/ED & T (including by the Sacred Brass) is changing not only our lives, but the entire universe, and beyond...

I hesitate to post this, to feed the distraction, but I am hoping to see more elevated discussion of what we can do to foster the best results.:rolleyes:

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

I have now listened to the first 2 hours. My partner listened for a few minutes and believes 'Drake' is really Jim Marrs.

Anyone else here that? :)

I think it's somebody from a similar area in the US, with similar vocal characteristics.

Respect to your partner but it's not jim marrs. that's ridiculous. his speech pattern is completely different. His tone is different. His pitch is different. His vocabulary is different. Almost everything is different except for his southern accent but in my opinion it is a different sounding southern accent.

[sygh]

Am listening to Drake right now. As far as Bill Ryan goes, this is his website, and we are here not just because of the work Bill has done but because we had our own questions that we couldn't necessarily answer for ourselves. I don't know about you but I can't drop everything and go to D.C., let alone Africa or, Scotland, Poland, Italy, etc... Bottom Line Bill Ryan made this forum possible. Respect that.

I haven't been around much recently, have been very busy with sustainable energy issues, looking into finite resources, and water rights as well.

S-L... If you have issues with Bill Ryan... go to the source. He is available right here. Maybe he's actually living his life, maybe he has a little happiness in it right now that he is savoring. Insulting this forum by insulting the owner of the forum is passive agressive on your part. You won't devide us, we will stand. It doesn't mean we are right or wrong. We are trying to understand and make a better world so...

Now, if you want to talk to me, I too have a personal venue on this site.

Fact is, no matter where one is on this planet, we are all affected. IMO, it is absolutely necessary we take a look at where we stand in this world and face the truth of it with an open mind and a willingness to fix the problems we see. That takes hope, love and work, hard work. It also means taking a stand and sticking to it, no matter how hard it is.

Do you appreciate the FACT that 90% of all predators in the sea are gone? Can you see that if you are following a leader and that leader is heading into an ambush it is your duty to give a heads up?

What is your real beef?

I am beginning to understand Drake's message...

[YvonneG]

Regarding Drake, if anyone wants to check out the site he mentions freedomreigns.us, this is not some mysterious person (whatever name he is using) He is well known by other people who work together in the "real freedom" movement for lack of a better word. I have known of several of these women like Teri and Deatra for a while. They know Drake well. I have done alot of research and I also swallowed the "kool-aid" even with that research. Drake has been coming on their show for quite some time. There is one at 6pm on Sunday and you can call in ask questions and talk to these people. Drake will probably be there.

One thing for sure we will know in short order if it is going to come down or not. I find Drake one of the most credible people with little if any belief required. One of the things that struck me as so absolutely true, paraphrasing what David said. Our military did not join the military to become hitmen for the bad guys. Most of them joined to serve their country etc. I have known of the Oathkeepers for many years now. You might want to check them out, and their videos. You will see that they have been speaking to this for quite a while, their Oath is to the Constitution and We the People. It has been said for a long time amongst these guys and others that they are the majority, so in this regard, Drake is surely not making anything up.

It doesn't hurt to be prepared with some food and toilet paper. I bought stuff a long time ago and also recently stocked up on enough canned food for 5 or 6 weeks..

[aranuk]

This stuff Drake was talking about is absolutely history in the making. He speaks seriously about replacing the government, which means the President and all the cabinet, a peaceful and quiet revolution, releasing prisoners from jails throughout the country who have not harmed either persons or property. He speaks about abolishing central banking, getting rid of fiat money, restoring mineral backed currency, FEMA camps to be used to house the perpetrators of injustice. He speaks also of introducing previously banned technology, free energy devices. Getting rid of the existing media, creating a new media, debt being paid to USA, China, Russia, UK. New judges appointed by the people not the Cabal. The world will change as a result of all this. Everything will be fair. Sounds to me like NESARA being enacted. Great news for the planet.

Stan

[Alie]

This stuff Drake was talking about is absolutely history in the making. He speaks seriously about replacing the government, which means the President and all the cabinet, a peaceful and quiet revolution, releasing prisoners from jails throughout the country who have not harmed either persons or property. He speaks about abolishing central banking, getting rid of fiat money, restoring mineral backed currency, FEMA camps to be used to house the perpetrators of injustice. He speaks also of introducing previously banned technology, free energy devices. Getting rid of the existing media, creating a new media, debt being paid to USA, China, Russia, UK. New judges appointed by the people not the Cabal. The world will change as a result of all this. Everything will be fair. Sounds to me like NESARA being enacted. Great news for the planet.

Stan

Stan
One of the things I noticed over the last few months on our forum is that Ben Fulford has been in question for his credibility. Well, Drake does mention him in a favorable light, although I forgot which hour it was. Do you have any thoughts about that?

[araucaria]

The discussion of Drake's identity, as with the butt paper, are distractions that miss the infinite ramifications of the message: What is happening by ET/ED & T (including by the Sacred Brass) is changing not only our lives, but the entire universe, and beyond...


Well, EnergyGardener, if this is this the case, and I agree it is, why are you so serious, instead of laughing with the universe? :)

[sygh]

This stuff Drake was talking about is absolutely history in the making. He speaks seriously about replacing the government, which means the President and all the cabinet, a peaceful and quiet revolution, releasing prisoners from jails throughout the country who have not harmed either persons or property. He speaks about abolishing central banking, getting rid of fiat money, restoring mineral backed currency, FEMA camps to be used to house the perpetrators of injustice. He speaks also of introducing previously banned technology, free energy devices. Getting rid of the existing media, creating a new media, debt being paid to USA, China, Russia, UK. New judges appointed by the people not the Cabal. The world will change as a result of all this. Everything will be fair. Sounds to me like NESARA being enacted. Great news for the planet.

Stan

I would like to see that but... I'm doubtful as to whether it will come peacefully.

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

Why would Bill Ryan bother visiting this forum? Or anyone? It's filled with feel-good disinformation meant to disable you. Most of you simply want to be saved. You are too afraid of the alternative. You will believe everything and anything that confirms this, and you will deny and attack anything that does not. It's a psychological weakness for humans generally, but Avalonians especially. You are so desperate to be saved. By anyone! You've faced reality, you're awake, but it's a scary world and now that you know, you're terrified of what you know. So you cling to heroes and saviours and feel good stories.

So unwise.

You are being manipulated, but you will attack anyone that points this out. You need to awaken a second time. You need discernment! You have none! You believe nearly anything that feels good and looks good. The powers that be are not afraid of you. They laugh at you. They manipulate you with feel good stories!

WAKE UP AND STOP BELIEVING EVERYTHING YOU READ, NO MATTER HOW HOPEFUL AND GOOD IT FEELS!

Such a dick. I agree with a lot you are saying.....but your still a dick.

Actually, I like irreverent humor laced with sarcasm, as sometimes that's the only way to get a point across. I was "with this" until it got to the last two paragraphs. It's okay to render an opinion, and it would be good to put "In My Opinion" in the opening line, but the attacks about how clueless Avalonian's are was totally uncool.

I mean I can be a sarcastic asshole sometimes. I love a good satirical comment, but it wasn't even that clever. "Wow this alternative community stuff is easy!" Yeah....great. I definitely got it the first time. Step your game up.

I'm glad somebody said it. He totally does need to step his game up morally and comedically. i'm glad someone else on here talks like me haha. dude definitely has no swag. by that i mean that he is incapable of pulling off his broad sweeping insults to this whole community and his snide remarks with any amount of charisma or class. Ok i'm done ranting. for some reason this clip comes to mind:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1xedaZRoh8

[Seikou-Kishi]

I normally like David Wilcock but a few things annoyed me. The first thing was how he referred to those who disagree with him as stroking their egos. There was no room for genuine disagreement, just ego stroking.

He talked about these friendly ETs disabling weapons and ushering in mass arrests, but I wonder why they've done nothing about chemtrail pilots. I can't see how things are changing on a battlefield because I'm nowhere near one. I can't see how things are changing in a multinational bank's board room because I'm nowhere near one of those either. I can look outside my window though and see chemtrails, so why aren't they doing anything about those?

Sounded a bit too much like more 'sit tight and do nothing' and quite a bit of 'let's not be too harsh to these people when we get our hands on them'. Those messages aroused my suspicion.

[EnergyGardener]

The discussion of Drake's identity, as with the butt paper, are distractions that miss the infinite ramifications of the message: What is happening by ET/ED & T (including by the Sacred Brass) is changing not only our lives, but the entire universe, and beyond...


Well, EnergyGardener, if this is this the case, and I agree it is, why are you so serious, instead of laughing with the universe? :)

araucaria,

The job isn't done. Even if it takes but a brief time, there will be loss of life, even if only for the bad guys. Some we will know.

I am not sure why you believe any being would have any reason to laugh, even after the upcoming job is completed. Those that believe this to be funny do not appreciate the gravity of what is happening (both positive and negative)—and likely not very helpful—as to what is yet to be accomplished. Remember Murphy's Law, or perhaps, the "Valkyrie" effort against Hitler? I looked great on paper; who would have guessed both bombs wouldn't be set off?

Consider the fate of those that might panic when the changes occur, start fighting each other or the military—particularly if they believe the world is ending. Albeit, well trained soldiers, we are talking about teenagers walking our streets with automatic weapons; things always go wrong when tensions are high and guns are loaded: Stuff happens; we must be ever vigilant and provide all of our help, including on these threads. Please do not underestimate the power of your meditations and focus our helpful energy to this objective that you agreed seems correct. There are very many people that will be arrested; these Illuminati have been trained with self defense since childbirth: Will we be so lucky to have all of them surrender peacefully?

This isn't just another television show; we must do our part to insure:

1. There are no Trojan Horses: Keep your family together at all times until this ends.
2. We inform those that are asleep what is going on; try keep those that have been clueless calm.

And at the same time, do not leave your family and home until peace and calm is restored, certainly do not allow your children (or anyone else in your family) to be hauled off, anywhere!

[Blueskywalking]

Blog comment #410 from David's Blog:

I notice a great effort to identify me.
I am Drake, my real name.
I am attempting to keep my full identity confidential to protect my wife and myself.
This also protects many people I associate with and my contacts.
The last reason is to keep 400 million emails out of my email box...believe it or not, I do have other activities, like making sure I can get information We The People need.
Until the actions I've spoken of start taking place, I will keep things this way.
I hope this clarifies things a bit.
Thank you all.

We can put to rest certain speculations now...

[Earth Angel]

have been checking Divine Cosmos for updates and saw this.......


http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1035-divineintervention1
UPDATE SATURDAY 3/31: A BUSY WEEKEND

Once I'm in the flow of a weekend conference like this, it's very difficult to make time to do other things -- like work on this article.

I was going to try to post Section II in the cracks, and I dug in there just now -- but I can see I will need about three or four hours to get it done.

Therefore, you don't need to keep re-loading this weekend to see new updates. I will make another notification when the new section is posted -- hopefully early this coming week -- and will also tell you when the dynamic updates will be finished.

Thank you for all your support!

[Kimberley]

Blog comment #410 from David's Blog:

I notice a great effort to identify me.
I am Drake, my real name.
I am attempting to keep my full identity confidential to protect my wife and myself.
This also protects many people I associate with and my contacts.
The last reason is to keep 400 million emails out of my email box...believe it or not, I do have other activities, like making sure I can get information We The People need.
Until the actions I've spoken of start taking place, I will keep things this way.
I hope this clarifies things a bit.
Thank you all.

We can put to rest certain speculations now...

Thank you BSW... perhaps you and others "can put to rest certain speculations now".

However....anyone can post with the name Drake...never believe anything until you have your own inner proof for you!!!

Be aware very aware and you /we will all be fine!!!

Much love!

[foreverfan]

David Icke and Alex Jones said something great in a video I watched today.
Their message: What are you doing? Is this a hobby? Are you taking any meaningful action?

I have.
I am a moderator on a football board with thousands of hits daily. The activity on this board is staggering compared to this board. We are implementing a disclosure board to see how many people we can wake up. I've already posted quite a few threads on other boards and these threads have some of the highest views on the board. Not too many people post comments but the views are incredible. We're in the process of consolidating them into one Disclosure Board. Waking up is a slow process. I hope to see results soon.

So my question to you... are you doing something meaningful, are you waiting for something to happen or are you just jerking off here for fun?

[Blueskywalking]

Thank you BSW... perhaps you and others "can put to rest certain speculations now".

However....anyone can post with the name Drake...never believe anything until you have your own inner proof for you!!!

Be aware very aware and you /we will all be fine!!!

Much love!

Kimberley, all I can say is this.
Having observed that the blog comments on David's post are HEAVILY moderated in BATCHES I think it unlikely that
the mods would let the last comment of the day be a bogus one from someone posting under the user "Drake".

And I will politely decline your offer to challenge any further the"speculative cloud".

Just trying to stay with the data Ma'am.

[aranuk]

This stuff Drake was talking about is absolutely history in the making. He speaks seriously about replacing the government, which means the President and all the cabinet, a peaceful and quiet revolution, releasing prisoners from jails throughout the country who have not harmed either persons or property. He speaks about abolishing central banking, getting rid of fiat money, restoring mineral backed currency, FEMA camps to be used to house the perpetrators of injustice. He speaks also of introducing previously banned technology, free energy devices. Getting rid of the existing media, creating a new media, debt being paid to USA, China, Russia, UK. New judges appointed by the people not the Cabal. The world will change as a result of all this. Everything will be fair. Sounds to me like NESARA being enacted. Great news for the planet.

Stan

Stan
One of the things I noticed over the last few months on our forum is that Ben Fulford has been in question for his credibility. Well, Drake does mention him in a favorable light, although I forgot which hour it was. Do you have any thoughts about that?

My long post got gobbled after I clicked on your name to see what gender you were. After all in Scotland Alie is short for Alistair. In short Alie I will say that my heart resonates with Bens. We are both prone to gullibility as we perhaps trust people until we know they are not to be trusted. I think everyone is innocent until they are in my mind proved guilty.

Stan

PS you are the most gorgeous Alie I have known.

[aranuk]

I normally like David Wilcock but a few things annoyed me. The first thing was how he referred to those who disagree with him as stroking their egos. There was no room for genuine disagreement, just ego stroking.

He talked about these friendly ETs disabling weapons and ushering in mass arrests, but I wonder why they've done nothing about chemtrail pilots. I can't see how things are changing on a battlefield because I'm nowhere near one. I can't see how things are changing in a multinational bank's board room because I'm nowhere near one of those either. I can look outside my window though and see chemtrails, so why aren't they doing anything about those?

Sounded a bit too much like more 'sit tight and do nothing' and quite a bit of 'let's not be too harsh to these people when we get our hands on them'. Those messages aroused my suspicion.

You're entitled to feel that way Olly. I have had the same feelings about David as well for ages. But I loved the interview with Drake.

Stan

[crosby]

8,071 views. must have some precedent.
corson

someone is paying attention.

22 guests

[crosby]

i have listened to all three segments of the interview. i am no sage by any means, but i like what i hear. i think drake offers information that i haven't heard before. and i thought dw did a great interview.
regards, corson


is anybody here? for real?

[xbusymom]

I opted to listen to DW instead of doing my studies (shame on me but, priorities chosen by Higher Intuition).

I came away from it with a calmer, more resolved feeling that this is the real McCoy... and I had several issues to comment on … so I am just going to throw them on the table.

1)there is always a longer lag time when dealing with government paperwork... and the information for the PLAN has been being gathered since the late 70's... a lot of things have been happening backstage for a long time... and we are just now getting to see the the first act of the show
2)I don't think it is Jim Marrs. The laugh is different, and Drake words things differently than Jim would.
3)The ET's suddenly changing non-interference policy- it just may be that the Aliens are not as omnipotent as they have been portrayed to be (but just more knowledgeable of better MAGICAL ELECTRONICS) and maybe there has been periodic intervention for a lot longer than anyone has been allowed to know. (It reminds me of “close encounters of the third kind” - the power source of the craft disrupted the lesser level of mechanics that we use.)
4)@Saracat... the toilet paper gathering is not for gathering up toilet paper … but for revving up your brain power to switch over from “make a buck” to sharing with others. … become charity minded.
5)@lilac
He did say that "the team" would have the authority to go and find guilty parties all over the globe. … only if the guilty party is still a government employee... he mentioned that several have not resigned but simply loaded up the family and gone on “an extended (no-return-date) vacation”.
6)@Seikou-Kishi...
I normally like David Wilcock but a few things annoyed me. The first thing was how he referred to those who disagree with him as stroking their egos. There was no room for genuine disagreement, just ego stroking... He talked about these friendly ETs disabling weapons and ushering in mass arrests, but I wonder why they've done nothing about chemtrail pilots. I can't see how things are changing on a battlefield because I'm nowhere near one. I can't see how things are changing in a multinational bank's board room because I'm nowhere near one of those either. I can look outside my window though and see chemtrails, so why aren't they doing anything about those?I don't think he was saying that EVERYONE that has doubts and investigates things is egotistical... I imaging he was addressing the issue of the argumentativeness of the people who think EVERYTHING is disinfo and just stir up trouble for the sake of getting their 15 minutes of fame. And I also think everyone deserves to be allowed to be human... DO you mean to tell me that YOU have NEVER had to do anything on your job that went against your conscience in order to KEEP your job or PROVIDE for yourself (or your loved ones) safe ? If not – I applaude you, and am frozen with awe and wonder at the possiblity that such a marvelous good fortune could exist for anyone. oh... wait … that must mean you don't have kids, a place to live, or any bills to pay... right? And you have never “lost it” in a stressful-beyond -belief situation? Well, that's another thumbs-up for you... how about some pointers on how it is done?

Sorry for the sarcasm, but I get rather testy with people that pick the wrong battles and risk losing the war. That is not to say that stuff doesnt need to get done, but like everything else in life... the urgent gets priority over the important.- not fair but thats life... no sense fussing about it if you are not going to do your part in fixing the problem.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

David Icke and Alex Jones said something great in a video I watched today.
Their message: What are you doing? Is this a hobby? Are you taking any meaningful action?

I have.
I am a moderator on a football board with thousands of hits daily. The activity on this board is staggering compared to this board. We are implementing a disclosure board to see how many people we can wake up. I've already posted quite a few threads on other boards and these threads have some of the highest views on the board. Not too many people post comments but the views are incredible. We're in the process of consolidating them into one Disclosure Board. Waking up is a slow process. I hope to see results soon.

So my question to you... are you doing something meaningful, are you waiting for something to happen or are you just jerking off here for fun?

Very important question "are you doing something meaningful". Very important to have water, food and other items needed if the supply lines are cut for a few months, which is a very likely scenario IMHO. The people who have some degree of awareness of what is happening, yet doing nothing meaningful, may be better off burying their heads in the sand and watch TV.

[araucaria]

The discussion of Drake's identity, as with the butt paper, are distractions that miss the infinite ramifications of the message: What is happening by ET/ED & T (including by the Sacred Brass) is changing not only our lives, but the entire universe, and beyond...


Well, EnergyGardener, if this is this the case, and I agree it is, why are you so serious, instead of laughing with the universe? :)

araucaria,

The job isn't done. Even if it takes but a brief time, there will be loss of life, even if only for the bad guys. Some we will know.

I am not sure why you believe any being would have any reason to laugh, even after the upcoming job is completed. If you believe it to be funny, then you are clueless—and likely not very helpful—as to what is yet to be accomplished. Remember Murphy's Law, or perhaps, Valkerie?

Consider the fate of those that might panic when the changes occur, start fighting each other or the military as they seek to keep order—particularly if they believe the world is ending. Albeit, well trained soldiers, we are talking about teenagers walking our streets with automatic weapons; things always go wrong when tensions are high and guns are loaded: Stuff happens; we must be ever vigilant and provide all of our help, including on these threads. Please do not underestimate the power of your meditations and focus our helpful energy to this objective that you agreed seems correct. There are very many people that will be arrested; these Illuminati have been trained with self defense since childbirth: Will we be so lucky to have all of them surrender peacefully?

This isn't just another television show; we must do our part to insure:

1. There are no Trojan Horses: Keep your family together at all times until this ends.
2. Inform those that are asleep what is going on; keep those that are clueless calm.

araucaria, I hope my edited response is more congenial and constructive.

Thank you EnergyGardener, the expurgated version will do just fine (I didn’t see the other one). Thanks for the vote of confidence :)

Someone who is capable of laughing is at the opposite end of the scale of all the panickers and so ideally placed to calm people down, I should have thought.

I don’t really know how TV shows operate, and I shan’t personally be making any arrests either. From the level I am working at, 21st century life is a huge cosmic April Fool, and the act of laughter is a way of saying ‘Nice try, but the joke is over’. This is the state of mind that both defuses the situation and can help others still seriously taken in to walk away.

If you can’t understand how things are being played out at this level, then you will just have to accept that there is an area where you yourself are, to use your own terminology, ‘clueless’. Have a nice day :)

[Phoenix1304]

I'm super excited too! Wow! So everything is going to be okay? We're all going to be fine, right? Light will win out over evil? Perhaps if we all think really good thoughts! Maybe in 3 weeks? Gee, I hope this anonymous insider and his website are right! This is such a relief... I love good news. In fact, I want to hear nothing but good news. Bad news upsets me :( It makes me feel hopeless. I want good news, good vibes, good intentions, good everything! And good energy! It's all about light, love, and good energy. Wow, this alternative community stuff is so easy. Now I finally get it. Good news and good vibes.

And who cares if none of this pans out! They've been working on this for 33 years. We can give them another 33, right? And if somehow this doesn't work out - through no fault of Wilcock of course - it's okay. We can find another person in the white hat community who will tell us everything is fine and we're going to win. If it does not, it's because we didn't manifest it hard enough. Damn nay sayers - they ruin everything! :(

Okay here's the plan! We're going to salivate at every morsel of good news, then talk about it a whole lot, then we're going to put our INTENTIONS behind it, and that's it! Why do anything else? This is so exciting :) I'm so excited. The powers that be will never be able to dupe me. I'm so discerning. Every piece of good news, no matter how farfetched (especially fulford) I'll take at face value. Every piece of bad or concerning news, I'll question, attack, and deny. The powers that be will surely fail! This is my plan. Who will join me? I'm pretty convinced that this is the smartest thing to do right now. If it doesn't work, then we'll just wait for someone else to save us. Aliens might :) They've come all this way... it's to save us, right? Right guys...? Because the alternative is so scary :( I'm going to choose to believe in GOOD STUFF only. Good aliens! Good insiders! Good white hats! Woo! This alternative community stuff is easy!

Why would Bill Ryan bother visiting this forum? Or anyone? It's filled with feel-good disinformation meant to disable you. Most of you simply want to be saved. You are too afraid of the alternative. You will believe everything and anything that confirms this, and you will deny and attack anything that does not. It's a psychological weakness for humans generally, but Avalonians especially. You are so desperate to be saved. By anyone! You've faced reality, you're awake, but it's a scary world and now that you know, you're terrified of what you know. So you cling to heroes and saviours and feel good stories.

So unwise.

You are being manipulated, but you will attack anyone that points this out. You need to awaken a second time. You need discernment! You have none! You believe nearly anything that feels good and looks good. The powers that be are not afraid of you. They laugh at you. They manipulate you with feel good stories!

WAKE UP AND STOP BELIEVING EVERYTHING YOU READ, NO MATTER HOW HOPEFUL AND GOOD IT FEELS!

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, they say. When it became apparent I wondered where your post was going. Oh, you're calling people fools for listening to this are you? Ah I see. Sarcasm, the ridicule of the excitement and enthusiasm of others. I see. You want to tell us not to be excited, to ignore the fact that hundreds of resignations of bankers are currently occurring, the Italian prime minister is brought down and arrested, the Murdoch empire's exposure and it's ENORMOUS ramifications, Muppetgate, and, well I won't go on, because you're clearly not interested in that, you'd like us NOT to believe these things then and what? Oh yes I see, wake up and do not believe anything that feels hopeful and good. Ah. I think that would be a fair assessment, yes?

Well, thanks for posting, but I think I'll skip them in future.

April Fool

[Blueskywalking]

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, they say. When it became apparent I wondered where your post was going. Oh, you're calling people fools for listening to this are you? Ah I see. Sarcasm, the ridicule of the excitement and enthusiasm of others. I see. You want to tell us not to be excited, to ignore the fact that hundreds of resignations of bankers are currently occurring, the Italian prime minister is brought down and arrested, the Murdoch empire's exposure and it's ENORMOUS ramifications, Muppetgate, and, well I won't go on, because you're clearly not interested in that, you'd like us NOT to believe these things then and what? Oh yes I see, wake up and do not believe anything that feels hopeful and good. Ah. I think that would be a fair assessment, yes?

Well, thanks for posting, but I think I'll skip them in future.

April Fool

Touche 'Jest' Phoenix1304, if that IS your real name :)

[EnergyGardener]

Thank you EnergyGardener, the expurgated version will do just fine (I didn’t see the other one). Thanks for the vote of confidence :)

Someone who is capable of laughing is at the opposite end of the scale of all the panickers and so ideally placed to calm people down, I should have thought.

I don’t really know how TV shows operate, and I shan’t personally be making any arrests either. From the level I am working at, 21st century life is a huge cosmic April Fool, and the act of laughter is a way of saying ‘Nice try, but the joke is over’. This is the state of mind that both defuses the situation and can help others still seriously taken in to walk away.

If you can’t understand how things are being played out at this level, then you will just have to accept that there is an area where you yourself are, to use your own terminology, ‘clueless’. Have a nice day :)

araucaria, You are correct, that "clueless" was an unfortunate word in my response to you, that was offensive. Please accept my apology; I have now removed that from my post above among other additions and edits.

But, to your point upon which I believe we agree and disagree: While, as I wrote above, it is critical for us all to remain calm, to smile and provide love to everyone—including each other:o, especially while we are surrounded by chaos. I do not believe laughter, of all forms of expression, would provide comfort or calming assurance to anyone.

I do look forward to knowing the Illuminati, the reptoids, greys, and all human accomplices are gone, that Humanity is on the accelerated catch-up process in all things, community structure, living and technology.

Perhaps, then, araucaria, we can meet at a French cafe and share a laugh.:cool:

[YvonneG]

My feeling is this, if anyone has questions and is not pretty much convinced that Drake seems to be the real deal. No evasive answers either. You can go to the blog show for Freedom Reigns and that might be helpful. That he is going to keep is identity hidden is proof to me. Why in the world would he expose his real name, and therefore his family and friends and associates!

There is a radio show tonight where he might be on it the Teri. This is the medium he uses to communicate. What he says falls in line with what James Martinez announced 1/1/12 as well. Not to mention it surely ties in to much of what Ben Fulford has shared.

And by the way, it is humorous for people consider the toilet paper comment, which he actually said food and other nessecities like toilet paper.

[YvonneG]

Here are some freedom reign shows where Drake speaks directily to everything. http://freedomreigns.us/Featured_Guests_Shows.html the 3/29/11 show, you can skip the first hour, Drake speaks at around 60 minutes.
I feel this guy is the real deal more than anyone else. For one thing he ain't making any money from anything :-)

[YvonneG]

From Drake on freedomreigns.us.....


Drake

It has come to my attention that a lot of people want to know who I am. I will offer a part of the base of what I know without endangering myself or others. The basis of the knowledge I hold is extraordinary in its scope (content and reach) and those whom I am in contact with.

Not being willing to take anyone's word for it, I went behind the scenes and found who 'they' were talking to. This involves most of the 'news' web sites many are familiar with, credible or not.

My military service includes nuclear weapons, very high security clearances, and Vietnam. Most of the "incidents" from this time forward, I was involved in at some level, major, minor, and local. I started in the field of information in the late nineties and progressed from that time forward. I use a portion of the old cold war spy network, people in several sensitive positions, and those who agree to pass along info no one else gets. There are several contact avenues that also offer info, military, political and citizen eyes. In all, an extreme information highway.

The validity of what I've sent out has been the best at the time, almost all of which was verifiable. And yes, I was called on to prove a lot of it at first. This was not an easy task and caused me to be able to protect and out the info at the same time, I learned how.

Forces in the main stream media took most of what I offered and called it everything but true, and I was a nightmare head case trying to cause problems through the use of my imagination, and the internet...

Those who own the media control its content, most of which is questionable at best...I know, because I was directly involved in a few of those 'international and local incidents' that were reported as something else altogether...So I have first hand knowledge of this.

I have been a patriot since taking my oath of service in the 60's. I had always been raised to be a patriot, but that oath haunted me all the time...until I decided I would start taking action.

The present information I have shared comes from a plan I was privileged to read some years ago. To date it has been in the works well over twenty (20) years. Many old fashioned old timers knew better than the direction our country was headed, even way back then, so they started writing the plan. It deals with offering the basic freedoms our country was founded on, and how to return to that freedom.

My research extends into a lot of law, application, and the origin of law itself. The offerings used in the manner in which I stated them to be used, when used correctly, I never lost. This includes local, state, federal, and international applications.

A group of individual people in individual states, has completed the paperwork that sets our nation free.

It is my hope that we all can keep our freedom this time...that is up to We The People.

The extent of the information offered on the recording is, at this time, the limit I use to protect the many who are involved in our efforts. If anyone who reads this believes that freedom can still be available, then I urge all those to play the recording to others of a like mind.

A qualified person does not have to be a rocket scientist. Try finding someone who is so honest it hurts to be around them. A person who knows the meaning of right and wrong according to their conscience...and who listens to it. In order to start to turn things around, it will take as many people as possible to stand up in any way they can. Put together groups all over our country at the local level. Get everyone to know each other and look into using your group to put the right kind of people in office.

Who am I to speak and by what authority do I do so?

It is each persons constitutional 'duty' to remove a repressive government...the present one qualifies.
I feel a moral obligation to stop the theft so hungry children in our own country of plenty, can eat.
It ain't doing this for me.
It is for my children and grandchildren, because their future hangs in the balance...
I feel it is the least I can do for them.
As one voice in the wilderness...I CRY FREEDOM...!

~Drake

[gripreaper]

So, who is ready to extricate themselves from all of their adhesion contracts, rescinding their birth certificate, their social security, their drivers license, their grantor deed on their property, and leave the slave plantation of being an indentured 14th amendment citizen of the corporatocracy and stand self realized, self determined, and self responsible? Any takers?

It's nice to talk about how the ET's are intervening, how the Drake is standing as a sovereign nation under sovereign immunity, how David Wilcock is copying and pasting all of the relevant information into his blog and collating all this information for us and wrote a book about it, and how Fulford and Wilcock are acting as the liaisons for the alliance of 143 nations and the ancient royal families who are going against the cabal and are the original beneficiaries to the trusts which hold all the original assets of planet earth.

It's time to "put up or shut up"

Go to http://www.notice-recipient.com/index.html and click on "cure" and download the documents. Get them filled out and sent off to the appropriate agencies. Yes, you need to rescind the original Cestui Que Vie trusts and all of your adhesion contracts and restore the original trust under the original jurisdiction.

Listen to the Drake. Come onto the talkshoe circuit and be with others of like mind who are doing it and add your questions and comments. On Jack Bauer's talkshoe # 116 last night Jim McBride explained very succinctly how to do it. Howard was on and he's fantastic. http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=74235&cmd=tc

There are close to 7 billion people on this planet who have acquiesced to the controllers through ignorance, apathy and complacency. We GAVE THEM our sovereignty and we need to own that, and take it back, each one of us individually.

[araucaria]

Thank you EnergyGardener, the expurgated version will do just fine (I didn’t see the other one). Thanks for the vote of confidence :)

Someone who is capable of laughing is at the opposite end of the scale of all the panickers and so ideally placed to calm people down, I should have thought.

I don’t really know how TV shows operate, and I shan’t personally be making any arrests either. From the level I am working at, 21st century life is a huge cosmic April Fool, and the act of laughter is a way of saying ‘Nice try, but the joke is over’. This is the state of mind that both defuses the situation and can help others still seriously taken in to walk away.

If you can’t understand how things are being played out at this level, then you will just have to accept that there is an area where you yourself are, to use your own terminology, ‘clueless’. Have a nice day :)

araucaria, You are correct, that "clueless" was an unfortunate word in my response to you, that was offensive. Please accept my apology; I have now removed that from my post above among other additions and edits.

But, to your point upon which I believe we agree and disagree: While, as I wrote above, it is critical for us all to remain calm, to smile and provide love to everyone—including each other:o, especially while we are surrounded by chaos, I do not believe laughter, of all forms of expression, would provide comfort or calming assurance to anyone.

I do look forward to knowing the Illuminati, the reptoids, greys, and all human accomplices are gone, that Humanity is on the accelerated catch-up process in all things, community structure, living and technology.

Perhaps, then, araucaria, we can meet at a French cafe and share a laugh.:cool:

Dear EnergyGardener,

I do not laugh at funerals, you will be relieved to hear, but if I’m any good at consoling the bereaved, it comes through being able to see the funny side of burying a box and seeing beyond the emotion of grief.

On the other hand I can laugh at being called clueless, because on one or more levels, that is exactly right, so no offence taken :)

Laughter, like love, is an opposite of fear, which is why I take it very... seriously.

[WhiteFeather]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjZgsRt8PBc&context=C4ee3586ADvjVQa1PpcFO6K7ahoYVszCRQQDYVoefp Pv3XcuYTfn4=

[WhiteFeather]

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/03/18/freedom-reigns

[etm567]

I can look outside my window though and see chemtrails, so why aren't they doing anything about those?

Sounded a bit too much like more 'sit tight and do nothing' and quite a bit of 'let's not be too harsh to these people when we get our hands on them'. Those messages aroused my suspicion.

Chemtrails much better here in New Jersey. Have been for the last year or so. We still have them, but much, much less. Just a couple most days. Not the complete white-out we had for about 10 years, with never a blue sky in sight. We see blue skies regularly now.

[Normalguy31]

Why would Bill Ryan bother visiting this forum? Or anyone? It's filled with feel-good disinformation meant to disable you. Most of you simply want to be saved. You are too afraid of the alternative. You will believe everything and anything that confirms this, and you will deny and attack anything that does not. It's a psychological weakness for humans generally, but Avalonians especially. You are so desperate to be saved. By anyone! You've faced reality, you're awake, but it's a scary world and now that you know, you're terrified of what you know. So you cling to heroes and saviours and feel good stories.

So unwise.

You are being manipulated, but you will attack anyone that points this out. You need to awaken a second time. You need discernment! You have none! You believe nearly anything that feels good and looks good. The powers that be are not afraid of you. They laugh at you. They manipulate you with feel good stories!

WAKE UP AND STOP BELIEVING EVERYTHING YOU READ, NO MATTER HOW HOPEFUL AND GOOD IT FEELS!

Such a dick. I agree with a lot you are saying.....but your still a dick.

Actually, I like irreverent humor laced with sarcasm, as sometimes that's the only way to get a point across. I was "with this" until it got to the last two paragraphs. It's okay to render an opinion, and it would be good to put "In My Opinion" in the opening line, but the attacks about how clueless Avalonian's are was totally uncool.

I mean I can be a sarcastic asshole sometimes. I love a good satirical comment, but it wasn't even that clever. "Wow this alternative community stuff is easy!" Yeah....great. I definitely got it the first time. Step your game up.

I'm glad somebody said it. He totally does need to step his game up morally and comedically. i'm glad someone else on here talks like me haha. dude definitely has no swag. by that i mean that he is incapable of pulling off his broad sweeping insults to this whole community and his snide remarks with any amount of charisma or class. Ok i'm done ranting. for some reason this clip comes to mind:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1xedaZRoh8

Hahahaha perfect. Excellent south park reference. I'm impressed. Nice to know someone else on here thinks the way I do.

[Carmody]

still two threads and neither one of them getting the attention I thought they would........:confused:

Not one single body in the street.

That's why.

What did Cuba Gooding Jr., say in that film....? Oh yes......"SHOW ME THE MONEY".

[Seikou-Kishi]

I can look outside my window though and see chemtrails, so why aren't they doing anything about those?

Sounded a bit too much like more 'sit tight and do nothing' and quite a bit of 'let's not be too harsh to these people when we get our hands on them'. Those messages aroused my suspicion.

Chemtrails much better here in New Jersey. Have been for the last year or so. We still have them, but much, much less. Just a couple most days. Not the complete white-out we had for about 10 years, with never a blue sky in sight. We see blue skies regularly now.

Actually now you mention it, that's the case here too. Thanks :D

[wobbegong]

About Wilcock's divine intervention paper, he is telling us that "22 TRUCKLOADS' WORTH OF DOCUMENTS" are the result of a 33 year old plan etc. And he uses as an example the Italian situation: "We were told that one single file-box of documents like this was strong enough to bring down the former Italian government, as you see here:
Prosecutors demand 5-year sentence for Berlusconi over witness tampering
http://rt.com/news/line/2012-02-15/#id26529
Prosecutors have demanded a five-year prison sentence for former Italian Premier Silvio Berlusconi in his trial on corruption charges.
Prosecutor Fabio De Pasquale asked the court on Wednesday to find the former PM guilty of having paid a British lawyer $600,000 to lie in other trials.
Those proceedings involve charges of tax evasion and false accounting during Berlusconi’s business career.
Other cases pending against him in the Milan courts include a trial on charges of having paid for sex with an underage prostitute. Berlusconi stepped down as the Premier in November last year..."
This has nothing to do with divine intervention. Anybody who has been reading the Italian news would know. There is no need to put this info in one of his 22 trucks, it's all been out there for ages; there may be a few things that are more concealed than others...not many though. David is just supporting his theories with something very true but that has nothing to do with his divine aliens or anything like that. Again he is mixing cause and effect: "...one single file-box of documents like this was strong enough to bring down the former Italian government, as you see here:...". No David, your file-box, if it exists...is probably a cut/paste report of what happened in Italy.
It wouldn't be surprising now if the "galactics" came along and said, "Dratzo dear ones...thereyago, it's happening, see all the things we and our earth allies did...and that Wilcock guy is telling you the truth...and Ruby is an alien, we sent her to tempt Berlusconi so that the earth allies could bust him..."
Right...divine intervention...no, not this one.

[G.Deluca]

About Wilcock's divine intervention paper, he is telling us that "22 TRUCKLOADS' WORTH OF DOCUMENTS" are the result of a 33 year old plan etc. And he uses as an example the Italian situation: "We were told that one single file-box of documents like this was strong enough to bring down the former Italian government, as you see here:
Prosecutors demand 5-year sentence for Berlusconi over witness tampering
http://rt.com/news/line/2012-02-15/#id26529
Prosecutors have demanded a five-year prison sentence for former Italian Premier Silvio Berlusconi in his trial on corruption charges.
Prosecutor Fabio De Pasquale asked the court on Wednesday to find the former PM guilty of having paid a British lawyer $600,000 to lie in other trials.
Those proceedings involve charges of tax evasion and false accounting during Berlusconi’s business career.
Other cases pending against him in the Milan courts include a trial on charges of having paid for sex with an underage prostitute. Berlusconi stepped down as the Premier in November last year..."
This has nothing to do with divine intervention. Anybody who has been reading the Italian news would know. There is no need to put this info in one of his 22 trucks, it's all been out there for ages; there may be a few things that are more concealed than others...not many though. David is just supporting his theories with something very true but that has nothing to do with his divine aliens or anything like that. Again he is mixing cause and effect: "...one single file-box of documents like this was strong enough to bring down the former Italian government, as you see here:...". No David, your file-box, if it exists...is probably a cut/paste report of what happened in Italy.
It wouldn't be surprising now if the "galactics" came along and said, "Dratzo dear ones...thereyago, it's happening, see all the things we and our earth allies did...and that Wilcock guy is telling you the truth...and Ruby is an alien, we sent her to tempt Berlusconi so that the earth allies could bust him..."
Right...divine intervention...no, not this one.

i agree, i have to add that after berlusconi,now we have monti who is even more a dictator and he is destroying our society,if it's divine intervention it s****

[wobbegong]

[QUOTE=wobbegong;459538]i agree, i have to add that after berlusconi,now we have monti who is even more a dictator and he is destroying our society,if it's divine intervention it s****

exactly mate, Monti, Fornero, what a team destroying Italy...then you get this "artist" calling it divine intervention, could kinda p one off.

[Billy]

About Wilcock's divine intervention paper, he is telling us that "22 TRUCKLOADS' WORTH OF DOCUMENTS" are the result of a 33 year old plan etc. And he uses as an example the Italian situation: "We were told that one single file-box of documents like this was strong enough to bring down the former Italian government, as you see here:
Prosecutors demand 5-year sentence for Berlusconi over witness tampering
http://rt.com/news/line/2012-02-15/#id26529
Prosecutors have demanded a five-year prison sentence for former Italian Premier Silvio Berlusconi in his trial on corruption charges.
Prosecutor Fabio De Pasquale asked the court on Wednesday to find the former PM guilty of having paid a British lawyer $600,000 to lie in other trials.
Those proceedings involve charges of tax evasion and false accounting during Berlusconi’s business career.
Other cases pending against him in the Milan courts include a trial on charges of having paid for sex with an underage prostitute. Berlusconi stepped down as the Premier in November last year..."
This has nothing to do with divine intervention. Anybody who has been reading the Italian news would know. There is no need to put this info in one of his 22 trucks, it's all been out there for ages; there may be a few things that are more concealed than others...not many though. David is just supporting his theories with something very true but that has nothing to do with his divine aliens or anything like that. Again he is mixing cause and effect: "...one single file-box of documents like this was strong enough to bring down the former Italian government, as you see here:...". No David, your file-box, if it exists...is probably a cut/paste report of what happened in Italy.
It wouldn't be surprising now if the "galactics" came along and said, "Dratzo dear ones...thereyago, it's happening, see all the things we and our earth allies did...and that Wilcock guy is telling you the truth...and Ruby is an alien, we sent her to tempt Berlusconi so that the earth allies could bust him..."
Right...divine intervention...no, not this one.

Looks like you are getting your interventions confused guys, The truck loads of documents and the arrests are carried out by our own earthy humans. The interventions which are meant to be of a divine nature is the destruction of underground bases, and prevention of WW111. but to date no evidence for joe public that bases have been destroyed. we shall see.

[Billy]

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/03/18/freedom-reigns

The broadcast above was for March 18th. This update was broadcast yesterday April 1st

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/04/01/freedom-reigns

[eaglespirit]

My God People...Fix the World Right in Front of You...Do the Next Right and Selfless Thing from the Heart...Your OWN Heart!

All else will fall into place in proper alignment with Earthly AND Higher Help as never before.

Simply time to stop dissecting everyone and everything and time to DO...YOU Do !!!

[Alie]

Here's some rambling thoughts.

My experience with doing "something" didn't turn out so well yesterday. It's a paradox --- I understand and believe things that others consider foolish. In fact, it's nearly impossible to provide information to my loved ones because as usual, I'm considered a fool, whereas everyone around me is "oh so wise". But then I thought, it's quite possible that I am the fool for thinking myself so wise. (Ha Ha)

It's like Drake said, he was just about to give up and just take care of himself and family when a random act he did created the opportunity to finish the plan. So that's where I'm at. Just keep the info to myself. Who cares? I can't find anyone that does. I'm glad I can chat with some like-minded folks here, but I can tell you, there are several comments that also put out the same vibe ... "you are a fool".

[Molope]

Ok i will say my own opinion and doubts so please feel free to reply me and correct me if im wrong:
Havent we been told that theres no "cavalary" coming to save us that WE are the cavalary? So how is this happening all this ET or Angelical interventions¿? So all of a sudden the Good guys are winning?
Im not saying this is not real in fact im going to see all the interview and keep and eye on it but I woud say lets not celebrate Victory yet I think we shoud not sit and wait but to have caution and observe around.

Thank you very much.

[eaglespirit]

LESS Tell...
MORE Do !!!
Most ALL of You have everything You need to BE a "higher" example now...
BE that Higher Example Now !!!
We have moved beyond any and all roadblocks in the way of positive heartfelt selfless "action",
no kidding...each of You hold an Ace, simply use it!

bye, bye to this thread for now...Thanks Drake, Thanks David...
and Thank You All that are now doing the DO-ings : )

[mountain_jim]

From Kerry's blog:
http://projectcamelotproductions.com/blog-hp.html

and I tend to agree that without some rumored powerful (and perhaps off-world) help her take is the more rational view rather than how easy Drake says this can all go down.

and I am no where near the pessimist Kerry seems at times. :)



April 2, 2012

VIVA LA REVOLUTION!

This is a link to listen to David's recent interview with an American Patriot named "Drake" -- not his real name... who is involved in a group that believes they have the means to organize the US military to take back the U.S. and revert back to the US Constitution from the 1800s just after the signing of the 13th Amendment.


I believe is going to be attempted but not the way they think... From what I know of the many patriot movements within the U.S. including the White Hats from this site: http://tdarkcabal.blogspot.com/ ordering arrests is far easier said than done. And the kind of coordination required to mount such an effort will require some very sophisticated alignments and organization.... which begs the question under what group (who are not the cabal we all know and revile) will such a coordinated effort happen?

While I applaud any revolution that wishes to clean up this mess called the United States, I do not see the military operating in unison and turning against its masters without a fair amount of bloodshed. It seems the Secret Gov and Space Command who are really running the place are viewed as losing their grip. I cannot see this group, worldwide and off planet being dealt with so easily as is described here.

I do think REVOLUTION is inevitable, at least here in the U.S. And I do hope this is one of many beginnings. But we have a long way to go before the dark cabal simply hands over their scaler/particle beam weapons, skynet robotic army of androids, command and control of the Mars and Moon colonies and Phobos and their plans for humanity 2.0. Do you really think they will relinquish their hold on this planet so easily? It is naive at best to think that the U.S. is not running the Secret Space Program.

Drake is painting a country that can supposedly close its borders and clean house when the very command and control of the off world civilization they have built is orchestrated from here. Underground too, cannot be ignored. The bases are vast and incredibly high tech... do you really think they will just hand them over? Yes there is rebellion in our military. But it is going to take a coup de grâce AND A coup d'état before there will be a changing of the guard... What Drake is describing and not willing to admit to is a coup d'état.


It happened with the death of Kennedy and appears on the verge of happening again...

[EnergyGardener]

From Kerry's blog:



April 2, 2012

VIVA LA REVOLUTION!

This is a link to listen to David's recent interview with an American Patriot named "Drake" -- not his real name... who is involved in a group that believes they have the means to organize the US military to take back the U.S. and revert back to the US Constitution from the 1800s just after the signing of the 13th Amendment.


I believe is going to be attempted but not the way they think... From what I know of the many patriot movements within the U.S. including the White Hats from this site: http://tdarkcabal.blogspot.com/ ordering arrests is far easier said than done. And the kind of coordination required to mount such an effort will require some very sophisticated alignments and organization.... which begs the question under what group (who are not the cabal we all know and revile) will such a coordinated effort happen?

While I applaud any revolution that wishes to clean up this mess called the United States, I do not see the military operating in unison and turning against its masters without a fair amount of bloodshed. It seems the Secret Gov and Space Command who are really running the place are viewed as losing their grip. I cannot see this group, worldwide and off planet being dealt with so easily as is described here.

I do think REVOLUTION is inevitable, at least here in the U.S. And I do hope this is one of many beginnings. But we have a long way to go before the dark cabal simply hands over their scaler/particle beam weapons, skynet robotic army of androids, command and control of the Mars and Moon colonies and Phobos and their plans for humanity 2.0. Do you really think they will relinquish their hold on this planet so easily? It is naive at best to think that the U.S. is not running the Secret Space Program.

Drake is painting a country that can supposedly close its borders and clean house when the very command and control of the off world civilization they have built is orchestrated from here. Underground too, cannot be ignored. The bases are vast and incredibly high tech... do you really think they will just hand them over? Yes there is rebellion in our military. But it is going to take a coup de grâce AND A coup d'état before there will be a changing of the guard... What Drake is describing and not willing to admit to is a coup d'état.


It happened with the death of Kennedy and appears on the verge of happening again...




Nothing in this statement on Kerry's Blog makes me believe she has knowledge of what is really going on.:no:

Throwing a discouraging "soaking blanket" on the effort as she did—appreciating the risks of looking foolish by supporting a false promise while attempting to appear wise acting prudent—in my opinion, is not helpful.:no:

While military officials have observed the "Divine Intervention" that is providing their confidence that the infrastructure is being and will be completely dismantled, the vast majority of citizens have not.:no:

"Disclosure" to the citizens might be helpful, but there simply may not be time for that, the "good guys" are very busy, including keeping us out of harms way. We will eventuality learn of all that is happening out of eyesight, but we must not work against that effort. So, while you and I may not have physical proof at the moment, we must do what we can in relative safety: Do not underestimate your impact at the moment, this is not a private discussion: The words you provide here are read by thousands.:ranger:

It is vital now to throw out the Illuminati and their private and public accomplices, all enemies of our constitution—our unalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. We must work with and champion the effort and success of the Sacred Brass—to destroy our enemies and end the "reptoid chapter"—this is vital and much more helpful.:usa2:

[eaglespirit]

The "process of notification"...in multiple...sent properly to the proper place to put in place the "changing" of EVERYTHING, Now!!! Simply be ready to help any way you may as things unfold in 'strategic-accelerated' "non"-chaos time!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/International_Court_of_Justice.jpg

[sdv]

Ok, I am going to be a sceptic and say that I think that DW is making a big hype about something that is not going to happen. I am always suspicious about these 'insider' 'secret' 'bona fida' sources that use code names for security reasons.

I do think that many predicted changes are indeed happening. At many levels people are standing up against the financial insanity. If the US and other countries had not dropped regulations for the financial sector those psychopaths in the financial sector would not have been able to steal trillions and get away with it, but that does not mean that we must not stand up and do the right thing and fix what went wrong. What happened at Fukishima could very well be the predicted 'nuclear war'. Personally (and I have no proof so you can shoot me down) I think that all these orbs and lights in the sky that people are seeing are an example of 'ascension' - we are adapting en masse in being able to see other dimensions or frequencies. I am sure here on this forum many could find examples that the changes we are waiting for are actually happening.

I do think it is important to wake up before it is too late. Take to the streets and march. Yes, you will be arrested. Take the risk and march peacefully. Get existing organisations to join together at all levels and start a country-wide informed protest against the laws that are taking away your freedom and livelihoods and homes. There are many people all across the world that would assist you. You could even appeal world-wide for funding for a conference in every major city. Have you heard about the organisation Avaaz.org? http://www.avaaz.org/en/ You can start yoiur own action through Avaaz and get the world-wide Avaaz community to support you.

If you don't take action and wait for DW and Drake to save you, your children will ask you one day why you just let the holocaust in the US happen. Ok, I am being harsh, but the David Wilcock story raises too many questions for me. For example, I question that papers have been submitted to the International Court in the Hague: The Court’s role is to settle, in accordance with international law, legal disputes submitted to it by States and to give advisory opinions on legal questions referred to it by authorized United Nations organs and specialized agencies. Investigate on their website yourself: http://www.icj-cij.org/homepage/index.php

[eaglespirit]

Decided to stay with this thread...Everyone I know in my life is taking action in some way, they are doing good things in their lives in front of them.

No one I know is waiting for anything...they are simply quietly disgruntled but VERY active and loving people.

Who are the people in your lives...if they are not of the general principles of the prior sentence..move on and away from them and simply tune in to more good people and you will be in the right place at the right time anywhere in the world as these changes accelerate...and they are and will accelerate for the good of it al because enough of us on the cutting edge of matters have helped it happen...in each of our own little ways this selfless helping has become paramount when put together to change it all now!!!

[araucaria]

Here's some rambling thoughts.

My experience with doing "something" didn't turn out so well yesterday. It's a paradox --- I understand and believe things that others consider foolish. In fact, it's nearly impossible to provide information to my loved ones because as usual, I'm considered a fool, whereas everyone around me is "oh so wise". But then I thought, it's quite possible that I am the fool for thinking myself so wise. (Ha Ha)

It's like Drake said, he was just about to give up and just take care of himself and family when a random act he did created the opportunity to finish the plan. So that's where I'm at. Just keep the info to myself. Who cares? I can't find anyone that does. I'm glad I can chat with some like-minded folks here, but I can tell you, there are several comments that also put out the same vibe ... "you are a fool".

Yes Alie, think globally (bigger than that), act locally (very locally). i too am engaged in something that makes no sense in terms of acting globally, but in terms of thinking locally, it is simply what I have to do.

Sorry about the (deliberate) inversion :)

[Selene]

At the risk of being flamed – or at least being misunderstood – I must say I’m glad to see Kerry’s comments on this, as they reflect my own. I’m not dancing around the Maypole yet, friends. This thing – despite anyone’s fondest hopes – is no done deal, and in fact a great deal more difficult to execute than most readers here seem to think, ET or no ET onside.

Drake – for all his undoubted sincerity and patriotism – is talking about a coup d’etat. The history of these military takeovers is a nasty, deadly and repressive one without exception. And make no mistake (for all Drake’s naive hopes), this will not be a ‘civilian’ coup; it cannot and will not succeed without the military at the forefront. Any supposedly civilian government in the absence of a free and open election will be an invalid one, regardless of what kind of “liberation” spin is put on it.

And to: “It’ll only be a few days/weeks of uncertainty..” Pah. Let’s talk experience: years. Decades. This will get a whole lot worse before it gets better. One thing a coup will not do is change human nature. Greed, fear and the corruption of power will continue under the New Republic. Unless, of course, you also believe that we are all going to simultaneously become “someone else”….:rolleyes:

Yet, this is their plan:

• New public and private officials will be “temporarily” appointed: by whom? According to what standard?

• Free elections will be held “soon”. Yeah. In Myanmar, North Korea, Egypt, Cuba and other places they’re still waiting. “Temporary” coup governments tend to like their cozy new jobs, perks and power. Things like democracy tend to slide in the face of “the current public emergency…..”

• "Courts will determine…." Except all the “corrupt” judges will have been arrested too. What courts? Or will “swift justice” prevail as it did in France, Russia, Iraq and everywhere else in human history?

And what I’d really, really, really like to know is: Who’s making up the list for this witchunt? Who’s deciding who gets arrested in the first place? Who’s got the list, that little list, of “enemies of the state…”? ”Are you now – or have you ever been – an employee of a bank, insurance company or financial institution….?"

At minimum, this venture is well-intentioned but naïve. It will end to the contrary, in the arrests and deaths of many loyal Americans. Beyond that, it gets ugly.

(But, we bawl, we’re….different…! Really?)

Okay, ladies and gentlemen, light your torches. I’ve been burned at the stake before….

Regards,

Selene

[wobbegong]

Looks like you are getting your interventions confused guys, The truck loads of documents and the arrests are carried out by our own earthy humans. The interventions which are meant to be of a divine nature is the destruction of underground bases, and prevention of WW111. but to date no evidence for joe public that bases have been destroyed. we shall see.

Well, then I think there is a contradiction or the article aims at confusing, because the whole thing is intitled "DIVINE INTERVENTION...", but most of it does talk about actions indeed carried out by humans, that he labels as "proof", or better still a consequence of divine guidance that took the form of human action. Otherwise why would he write pages and pages where only 2 sentences are specifically referred to divine intervention - the destruction of underground bases, and prevention of WW111, big items...yes, but the only ones that lack any proof? One could say it's too important to keep things still secret so we don't ruin the plan etc. Or that WW3 did not occur so that's proof...well, it's true it did not occur, but the same goes for many other things.

[Dennis Leahy]

...

Drake – for all his undoubted sincerity and patriotism – is talking about a coup d’etat. The history of these military takeovers is a nasty, deadly and repressive one without exception. And make no mistake (for all Drake’s naive hopes), this will not be a ‘civilian’ coup; it cannot and will not succeed without the military at the forefront. Any supposedly civilian government in the absence of a free and open election will be an invalid one, regardless of what kind of “liberation” spin is put on it.

And to: “It’ll only be a few days/weeks of uncertainty..” Pah. Let’s talk experience: years. Decades. This will get a whole lot worse before it gets better. One thing a coup will not do is change human nature. Greed, fear and the corruption of power will continue under the New Republic. Unless, of course, you also believe that we are all going to simultaneously become “someone else”….:rolleyes:
...

And what I’d really, really, really like to know is: Who’s making up the list for this witchunt? Who’s deciding who gets arrested in the first place? Who’s got the list, that little list, of “enemies of the state…”? ”Are you now – or have you ever been – an employee of a bank, insurance company or financial institution….?"

At minimum, this venture is well-intentioned but naïve. It will end to the contrary, in the arrests and deaths of many loyal Americans. Beyond that, it gets ugly.

(But, we bawl, we’re….different…! Really?)

Okay, ladies and gentlemen, light your torches. I’ve been burned at the stake before….

Regards,

Selene
Hi Selene,

I would think that for true insiders, knowing who the top one, two, maybe even three tiers of specifically who the leaders, vice-chancellors, and imperial wizards of the cabal are would not be so much a witch hunt.

The layers below that will get fuzzier and fuzzier.

If they can "take out"* the kingpins of the gang, I would think there's a good chance they can be effective.

*(I prefer alive, because they have information that we want. And no, I wouldn't condone torturing anyone for info. These people are used to a great deal of comfort, and can probably be bargained with rather quickly, once their accommodations become Spartan.)

The last coup d'état in the US was November 22, 1963. That one didn't go so well for the good guys. Considering how sociopathic and evil the gang is that are in power now, I'd have to say that even if this is a military coup that does indeed get cozy and stay in power, it would be very very difficult to be anywhere near as evil as the current crop of miscreants (with delusions of grandeur and evidently staffed at the highest level of every important position with full-on psychopathic sociopaths.) Although that is not what I want, I have to say I'd even support that. Really, based on where we are at right now, a military coup is the only possible way.

I do hope they are not naive - I suspect that they are not. I do sense that they are going to go ahead with this, and if they fail... well, they simply must not fail. I suspect that the only reason for telegraphing their intentions is to assure the public. Well, that and to spread the word to active military that it's time to choose sides, and to remember the oath they swore to.

I'll have more to say on this in a few days...

Dennis

[sygh]

Well, I'm convinced that "Drake" is convinced. In other words, my BS detector was quiet. If his info is crap, he believes it so thoroughly that he comes across as completely true. (I don't know diddly squat about 'lie detection' this is just me speaking from my gut feeling.)

I press forward with my plans to do "whatever I can", but I have to admit, (and you can call me a gullible dork, if you want), I am actually more hopeful right now - that the Dark Cabal really is going down - than I have ever been.

:~)

Dennis

Dennis, Russell Means, the Lakota Indian, in his video "Welcome to the Reservation" discusses the idea of being a sovereign nation without the ability to operate in commerce, as extricating yourself from the matrix has it's caveats.

I highly recommend this video as a backdrop to this idea of overthrowing the cabal via Sovereign Immunity.

Thank you for the recommendation, I am listening to Russell Means right now. There is something wonderful about listening to a wise man speak. I'm with Russell.

[alxz]

D.W was going to make an transcript of the interview with drake ASAP he said. Have u seen? cant listen to the interview without it.. :/

[Applecart]

@webbegong
the divine intervention stuff is going to be the bulk of Section 2 I believe. last I read, he hopes to release it early this week.

@Selene
thanks for the sobering thoughts!

@Dennis Leahy
i don't know anything about that 1963 coup d'état. i definitely have something really interesting to research now. do you have a good source for info on it? I'd rather not read too much bad information xD

[A Simple Human]

@ Kimberley,

Although this is a contentious topic of which the veracity should definitely be questioned. I do feel it merits keen observation. Thanks for starting this thread.

[modwiz]

@Dennis Leahy
i don't know anything about that 1963 coup d'état. i definitely have something really interesting to research now. do you have a good source for info on it? I'd rather not read too much bad information xD

That would be the assassination of JFK. It was a coup by the bad guys. I hope the ramifications of that coup are obvious. A similar coup by good guys can be just as 'doable' without martial law and with much better results. JFK was removed because he was standing with and for the people. He was an elite, but had a sense of service in that position. A champion of the little guy, he had to go. Usual suspects behind it as well.

[Dennis Leahy]

@Dennis Leahy
i don't know anything about that 1963 coup d'état. i definitely have something really interesting to research now. do you have a good source for info on it? I'd rather not read too much bad information xD
The Dark Cabal opened up John F Kennedy's head in broad daylight on November 22, 1963, and took full and overt control of the US government. "Back, and to the left" is what we all saw, but were told that he was shot from behind. I think this is where they got really good at "handling" conspiracy theorists: anything from discrediting to death.

There's probably more written on this subject than just about any event in US history, except possibly for 9/11 or Kim Kardooshiun changing her lipstick color.

My favorite website (for JFK assassination content, not as a professional-looking website) is from Wim Dankbar, called JFKMurderSolved.com (http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/index1.htm), and supposedly the best and most current book is "JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters (http://www.amazon.com/JFK-Unspeakable-Why-Died-Matters/dp/1570757550/ref=cm_srch_res_rpli_3)"

At the JFK Murder Solved website, you can spend a week if you want, and read many aspects. There, you'll meet James Files, the man who put the bullet through JFK's head, from "the grassy knoll." If Files is lying in his video interview, he is better than any actor in Hollywood. I'm convinced this is truly one of the professional hitman (Mafia, mobsters) hired by and handled by the CIA - and Files was one of 3 people that hit Kennedy, with the Files headshot being the coup de grâce.

I know it's weak to recommend a book I haven't read, and I have read quite a bit about the JFK assassination. This one comes highly recommended by several people that I know are not revisionists (although I don't think it names James Files. It is more about who ordered the hit than who carried it out.)

It is obvious that the people who killed Kennedy are still alive, and still wield great power. (George H W Bush may have been a CIA agent in charge of some relatively small aspect of the operation), and there are still people writing revisionist and deliberate disinformation books and movies and documentaries - and still arguing on YouTube and numerous JFK forums. Some are obviously just locked-in on bad data, some steadfastly refuse to believe that a faction of the US government could have done such a thing - but some appear to be still receiving a paycheck, after all these years.

Dennis

[Applecart]

ahh that makes sense. thanks modwiz and dennis :)
I'll definitely watch the James Files video! appreciate the links and info. JFK has been a kind of hero for me ever since just recently hearing his secret societies speech for the first time. I know very little else about him. I don't want to derail this thread(i'm sure there's a JFK thread or two around these forums i can go find).

[Billy]

I liked the Drake interview, Great to hear about the loophole in the law that allowed America to become sovereign again.

What "loophole" in the Law that "allowed" America to become sovereign again? I must have missed that part. Do you remember which of the three hours it was talked and at what point in the hour so I can go find it, or, if you don't mind, could you explain it?

Sorry i missed your post gripreaper, I am not able to get online as much as i would like these days.

To answer your question i did not take notes when listening to the 3hr show, but the info was in regards to individual sovereign states. Maybe loophole is the wrong word but there seems to have been a safety clause or opening left by the founding fathers that could be implicated at a later date if the USA found itself being dictated to outwith the constitution or the declaration of independence. ie cooporate government ect.

After listening to last sundays radio show last night i think all your queries were answered in that show. I recommend listening to the whole show with a notepad and pen at the ready, a caller asks if ALL states are covered, the answer is not all and a list of states that still need to get their acts together are announced. but reference points are 50mins, 67mins, 70mins (note), 90mins, 120mins, here http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/04/01/freedom-reigns

Hope this helps

Billyji

[eaglespirit]

This "coup d'état"...if that is what You wish to label it is going to be like no other happening that has happened along those lines anywhere at anytime in this realm as we know it so far. Unprecedented circumstances and energies are involved as this unfolds in accelerated fashion from behind the scenes to becoming THE scenes in front of Us. Folks, I don't know what to say anymore...other than "This Is It". I personally have had too many signs that have come to be and my current energy as to the telling of outcome of non-specific specifics is going to be amazing to behold and be a part of!

[Blueskywalking]

To answer your question i did not take notes when listening to the 3hr show, but the info was in regards to individual sovereign states. Maybe loophole is the wrong word but there seems to have been a safety clause or opening left by the founding fathers that could be implicated at a later date if the USA found itself being dictated to outwith the constitution or the decleration of independence. ie cooporate government ect.

After listening to last sundays radio show last night i think all your queries were answered in that show. I recommend listening to the whole show with a notepad and pen at the ready,a caller asks if ALL states are covered, the answer is not all and a list of states that still need to get their acts together are announced. but reference points are 50mins, 67mins, 70mins (note), 90mins, 120mins, here http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedom...freedom-reigns

Hope this helps

Billyji

A fair representation Billyji.

The picture I was left with is that each new "enactment" of a new "nation/state" had to be done so on the basis
of a freely defined constitution, a constitution limited only in that it had to be in harmony with or "in the spirit" of the original constitution, bill of rights, declaration of independence etc.
All those great "documents - ideas - beings" have thus been freshly minted, enacted, declared.

They have been again 'enlivened' - lawfully - before the World Court.

1787 come again in 2012

A nice way to celebrate a 225th anniversary - yes?

[steveofengland]

Wow! Its taken me two days to get through this thread, following as many links as I go. Unfortunately i can't hear all of the interview so I will have to wait for a transcript. Right now my family are experiencing many problems and we are having to leave our home and put our belongings into storage and stay with other family members. I feel there are other reasons pushing us into doing this at this time, though I do not know what they could be, I just feel it. And so I'm happy to go along with this and move to a different town.

[cellardoor]

Men who influenced the D of I, the social contract philosophers.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_did_the_ideas_of_Locke_Montesquieu_Rousseau_Voltaire_and_Beccaria_influence_the_founding_fathers

Locke's political philosophy influenced the American Revolution the most. To exemplify this, recall Thomas Jefferson's famous phrase from the Declaration of Independence: "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness". This phrase actually appeared in the writings of Locke in his Two Treatises on Government where he says "no one ought to harm another in his life, health, liberty, or possessions." Jefferson changed the last condition from "possessions" (or "estate") because he feared people would claim they have the right to the property of others, so he claimed people have the right to pursue that which makes them happy. Locke also believed in the following political and philosophical principles: (1) government is required to protect people's natural rights, (2) government should have limited power, (3) the type of government should be accepted by all citizens, (4) absolute monarchy is immoral, (5) government has an obligation to those it governs, and (6) people have the right to overthrow government if the it fails its obligations or takes away natural rights (revolution).

Montesquieu wrote The Spirit of the Laws. His article described checks and balances on government by dividing the functions of power between three separate branches of government to protects liberty. One can see his ideas about separation of governmental powers reflected in the United States Constitution with the separate branches of government: the legislative, judiciary, and the executive.

Jean-Jacques Rousseau was the champion of democracy because he believed that authority lies with the people. In The Social Contract, written in 1762, Rousseau states that (1) man is born free, (2) controls by a freely formed government are good, (3) consent to a form of governments means that the individual gives up self-interest in favor of the common good, and (4) when government is by the consent of the governed the people retain their rights. Jefferson makes implicit reference to Rousseau when in the Declaration of Independence, he states that the King of England no longer has the consent of the colonists which he rules and therefore his power over them is nullified.

Voltaire opened peoples eyes to the corruption by officials and aristocrats with his biting satirical works. His writings allowed others to see the injustice of slave trade and religious prejudice. The Declaration of Independence also reflects British government corruption which devastated the American colonies and drove the Founding Fathers to revolution. Additionally, Voltaire was a staunch supporter of the freedom of speech, which is emphasized by the American Constitution.

Beccaria was an Italian writer who sought to change these excessive and cruel punishments by applying the rationalist, social contract ideas to crime and criminal justice. His small book, On Crimes and Punishments), was published in 1764 and was well-received by intellectuals and some reform-minded rulers who had already accepted the general framework of social contract thinking. Even more important for the book's acceptance, however, was the fact that the American Revolution occurred soon after this book's publication. These two great revolutions were both guided by naturalistic ideas of the social contract philosophers. To these revolutionaries, Beccaria's book represented the latest and best thinking on the subject of crime and criminal justice. They therefore used his ideas as the basis for their new criminal justice systems.

[foreverfan]

Personally, I think Drake and David may have said too much. Why do we want to give these butt holes any warning? This makes me think Drake could be a plant, but then again maybe not since I can understand the need for discretion. Who knows.

I had a discussion with David Duke's former campaign manager today, and he confirmed that the plan to overthrow the government has been around for 30+ years. He didn't know ANY of the current stuff, but warned that it would take a huge degree of secrecy to be pulled off. Knowing what little he knows, he did think the Military should be doing something and fully expected something to be done for a while now. To him, this was nothing new. I sent him the link to Drake/Wilcock's interview.

He did confirm that David Duke lives in Austria and isn't any part of any of this. LOL

[Bill Ryan]

Personally, I think Drake and David may have said too much. Why do we want to give these butt holes any warning? This makes me think Drake could be a plant, but then again maybe not since I can understand the need for discretion. Who knows.

I had a discussion with David Duke's former campaign manager today, and he confirmed that the plan to overthrow the government has been around for 30+ years. He didn't know ANY of the current stuff, but warned that it would take a huge degree of secrecy to be pulled off. Knowing what little he knows, he did think the Military was pissed off enough to do something and fully expected something to be done for a while now. I sent him the link to Drake/Wilcock's interview.

He did confirm that David Duke lives in Austria and isn't any part of any of this. LOL


Hi, All -- a quick note:

I have to say that I don't believe Drake's testimony. I strongly suspect that David Wilcock is being played to discredit him. If so, this would not be the first time (and certainly not with Ben Fulford, either).

The very idea of announcing 'arrests' beforehand is absurd... if this is all for real. Think of how stakeouts are usually orchestrated. The agencies don't warn the drug gangs prior to the carefully co-ordinated dawn raids.

***

I'm currently traveling, but frequently check the forum for new developments of interest. I also posted this sometime last year: as Mark Twain famously quipped, reports of my death have been somewhat exaggerated.

:)

Warmest regards to everyone, as always -- Bill

[xbusymom]

@Dennis Leahy
i don't know anything about that 1963 coup d'état. i definitely have something really interesting to research now. do you have a good source for info on it? I'd rather not read too much bad information xD
The Dark Cabal opened up John F Kennedy's head in broad daylight on November 22, 1963, and took full and overt control of the US government. "Back, and to the left" is what we all saw, but were told that he was shot from behind. I think this is where they got really good at "handling" conspiracy theorists: anything from discrediting to death.

There's probably more written on this subject than just about any event in US history, except possibly for 9/11 or Kim Kardooshiun changing her lipstick color.

My favorite website (for JFK assassination content, not as a professional-looking website) is from Wim Dankbar, called JFKMurderSolved.com (http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/index1.htm), and supposedly the best and most current book is "JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters (http://www.amazon.com/JFK-Unspeakable-Why-Died-Matters/dp/1570757550/ref=cm_srch_res_rpli_3)"

At the JFK Murder Solved website, you can spend a week if you want, and read many aspects. There, you'll meet James Files, the man who put the bullet through JFK's head, from "the grassy knoll." If Files is lying in his video interview, he is better than any actor in Hollywood. I'm convinced this is truly one of the professional hitman (Mafia, mobsters) hired by and handled by the CIA - and Files was one of 3 people that hit Kennedy, with the Files headshot being the coup de grâce.

I know it's weak to recommend a book I haven't read, and I have read quite a bit about the JFK assassination. This one comes highly recommended by several people that I know are not revisionists (although I don't think it names James Files. It is more about who ordered the hit than who carried it out.)

It is obvious that the people who killed Kennedy are still alive, and still wield great power. (George H W Bush may have been a CIA agent in charge of some relatively small aspect of the operation), and there are still people writing revisionist and deliberate disinformation books and movies and documentaries - and still arguing on YouTube and numerous JFK forums. Some are obviously just locked-in on bad data, some steadfastly refuse to believe that a faction of the US government could have done such a thing - but some appear to be still receiving a paycheck, after all these years.

Dennis

take a look at the 1984 movie "Flashpoint" with Kris Kristofferson

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[EnergyGardener]

Hi, All -- a quick note:

I have to say that I don't believe Drake's testimony. I strongly suspect that David Wilcock is being played to discredit him. If so, this would not be the first time (and certainly not with Ben Fulford, either).

The very idea of announcing 'arrests' beforehand is absurd... if this is all for real. Think of how stakeouts are usually orchestrated. The agencies don't warn the drug gangs prior to the carefully co-ordinated dawn raids.

***

I'm currently traveling, but frequently check the forum for new developments of interest. I also posted this sometime last year: as Mark Twain famously quipped, reports of my death have been somewhat exaggerated.

:)

Warmest regards to everyone, as always -- Bill

Bill,

While we have no proof Drake is correct—I disagree with the premise of your opinion.

This isn't a stakeout or a raid in the traditional sense by any means. In a typical law enforcement action, the citizens don't give a raid a second thought, because they support the arrests, as does the entire police force. Both issues are different here; there must be some "heads-up" to all of the military and the populace (certainly the alternative medias / forums), so there is minimal "surprised" resistance, even substantial support for their effort. For that reason, some might believe this advance notice is a real action to stifle opposition by the "alternatives," but that Drake is setting the stage for Trojan Horse against the populace. However, I have more faith in the real Americans within our military; and I do not believe they would allow the Chinese, or any other country, to invade against us.

This isn't entirely unlike WWII, when the Germans knew there was going to be an allied invasion of France, but they didn't know exactly when and where. Many things went wrong, stupid mistakes were made with great loss of life. Yet, by great leadership, the "Band of Brothers" loyalty to each other, country and freedom, the allies prevailed, and France and most of Europe were liberated.

Today's American soldiers are better armed, trained and I sincerely believe too, better led by a well-educated, experienced, fed-up and had-enough brass. Hopefully mistakes and loss of life will be minimized, perhaps eliminated? That is my visualization: and for all troops to come home.

Whether you or others believe it or not, the ET/ED/T "Divine Intervention" is the major game changer that puts all the chips on the side of Drake, US Marshals, Sacred Brass, US Soldiers and local police forces.

We must remember that while the top-down tyrannical system has worked according to the Illuminati's plans for many years, that occurred with the ignorance of the populace and fear of reprisals to family among the military elite. We are awakening and fully support the long overdue justice; and, it appears the military leaders in the Pentagon and elsewhere are ready to execute their plans; so they will no longer be recognized on the wrong side of the ongoing terror to humanity: They must change it or own it within the small window remaining.

For one more of infinite reasons, having sworn to uphold and defend the US Constitution against all enemies foreign "and domestic," they are going to save us from both. It makes sense they are forewarning all members of the armed forces to "not" follow any orders to attack innocent civilians and each other—but instead to follow orders of the leaders that are on the side of America. Besides, which soldier doesn't have civilian family depending upon them to truly serve their country to restore our liberty form these selfish and evil beings?

[white wizard]

Bill,

While we have no proof Drake is correct—I disagree with the premise of your opinion.

This isn't a stakeout or a raid in the traditional sense by any means. In a typical law enforcement action, the citizens don't give a raid a second thought, because they support the arrests, as does the entire police force. Both issues are different here; there must be some "heads-up" to all of the military and the populace (certainly the alternative medias / forums), so there is minimal "surprised" resistance, even substantial support for their effort. For that reason, some might believe this advance notice is a real action to stifle opposition by the "alternatives," but that Drake is setting the stage for Trojan Horse against the populace. However, I have more faith in the real Americans within our military; and I do not believe they would allow the Chinese, or any other country, to invade against us.

This isn't entirely unlike WWII, when the Germans knew there was going to be an allied invasion of France, but they didn't know exactly when and where. Many things went wrong, stupid mistakes were made with great loss of life, but France and most of Europe were liberated.

Whether you or others believe it or not, the ET/ED/T "Divine Intervention" is the major game changer that puts all the chips on the side of Drake, US Marshals, Sacred Brass and local police forces.

We must remember that while the top-down tyrannical system has worked according to the Illuminati's plans for many years, that occurred with the ignorance of the populace and fear of reprisals to family among the military elite. We are awakening and fully support the long overdue justice; and, it appears the military leaders in the Pentagon and elsewhere are ready to execute their plans; so they will no longer be recognized on the wrong side of the ongoing terror to humanity: They must change it or own it within the small window remaining.

For one more of infinite reasons, having sworn to uphold the US Constitution against all enemies foreign "and domestic," they are going to do clean out both. It makes sense they are forewarning all members of the armed forces to "not" follow any orders to attack innocent civilians, each other, but instead, to follow the orders of the leaders that are on the side of America. Besides, which soldier doesn't have civilian family depending upon them to truly serve their country to restore our liberty form these selfish and evil beings?


I agree with you as well energy gardener, whether you wanna accept it or not

something is going on behind the scenes. Do we have the whole picture? no.

There are changes though that we cannot deny are happening.

* Is human kind waking up? Yes.

* Are people in power being shaken up? Yes, there is resignations and evidence
everywhere.

* If people do wake up will TPTW be able to continue this? No. It is well known
that when a percentage of any population wakes up to the fact they are being
manipulated, mistreated or lied to they will take action.

Those 3 statements alone if true means that in one way or another the people who were once in charge of our planet will no longer be able to control it in the
way they did before and things will have to change to balance the changing ideas
of how people perceive things should be. The same idea being if you told an
normal person today he would have to go back to living life as a surf working to support his master he would look at you like you are mentally ill.

We can sit here and argue all day about whats going on behind the scenes or
see the changes for what they are and that is an energetic shift in our reality.

[YvonneG]

I think that anyone commenting about this interview would do well to get informed, by listening Drake's elaborating more on the http://Freedomreigns.us radio show. I know of some of the people on the radio show with him. Teri for example. I am 99.9999% convinced that this is for real. I am sure there are possibly as many views as there are people on the internet. Energy Gardner is so right on in my opinion.

But then OUR opinions really don't effect anything expect perhaps to influence others. What I have found is that too often and I include myself in this, we ONLY see from our own beliefs and reactions and perspectives. I have studied Common law stuff and have a cousin who is a patriot and I have known for a long time that there was a way to lawfully do something, but as I always told my cousin, they have the guns. I have no reason to believe that Drake has not truly figured this out along with others.

And consider that who in the world really believes that our military and other law enforcement people join in order to protect the bankster/cabal ? and if anyone has heard of the Oathkeepers (oathkeepers.org) who are just those people who have sworn to refuse any order that is against our constitution or We The People, then what Drake is presently makes more sense then anything.

There is many more reasons to believe this. And frankly David is not dumb!

[Kimberley]

Thank you Energy and White and Yvonne!!!! I am with you on this.

I say we are so close to a turn to justice that I can taste it and smell it.

I have been waiting for this to happen my whole life!

I believe in peace on earth!

Much love to us all, always in all ways !! :grouphug:

[Calz]

I think that anyone commenting about this interview would do well to get informed, by listening Drake's elaborating more on the http://Freedomreigns.us radio show. I know of some of the people on the radio show with him. Teri for example. I am 99.9999% convinced that this is for real. I am sure there are possibly as many views as there are people on the internet. Energy Gardner is so right on in my opinion.

But then OUR opinions really don't effect anything expect perhaps to influence others. What I have found is that too often and I include myself in this, we ONLY see from our own beliefs and reactions and perspectives. I have studied Common law stuff and have a cousin who is a patriot and I have known for a long time that there was a way to lawfully do something, but as I always told my cousin, they have the guns. I have no reason to believe that Drake has not truly figured this out along with others.

And consider that who in the world really believes that our military and other law enforcement people join in order to protect the bankster/cabal ? and if anyone has heard of the Oathkeepers (oathkeepers.org) who are just those people who have sworn to refuse any order that is against our constitution or We The People, then what Drake is presently makes more sense then anything.

There is many more reasons to believe this. And frankly David is not dumb!

I concur with your reality calibration.

Drake comes across ... as mentioned ... 99.9999 % sincere and adds a real tangible aspect to what Fulford, Wilcock or others have claimed.

Using common sense or Kerry's take via her blog ... not going to be easy to be sure.

Yet ... this is the most tangible evidence yet when coupled with what appears to be the leveling of the playing fields by "others" in respect to "those that have frankly ruled us for thousands of years".

No we don't want, expect or hope for saviours ... yet level the playing field and give humanity a chance to take care of it's own.


Yes.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

I have to say that I don't believe Drake's testimony. I strongly suspect that David Wilcock is being played to discredit him. If so, this would not be the first time (and certainly not with Ben Fulford, either).
Warmest regards to everyone, as always -- Bill

If David Wilcock is being played with, that may indicate that much of what David says is true. The "powers that be" have no need to discredit a lie.

[YvonneG]

Billyji,

You are so right...I think before anyone comments they could get more informed and answers by listen to all the shows starting on 3/14/12 where Drake speaks. I know who Teri is and have known of her for a long time. Which gives me even more certainty. And for anyone who knows a little about our Constitution and Bill of Rights etc. knows that what they have done is definitely considered "lawful" according to our Constitution.

[YvonneG]

Nothing in this statement on Kerry's Blog makes me believe she has knowledge of what is really going on.:no:

Throwing a discouraging "soaking blanket" on the effort as she did—appreciating the risks of looking foolish by supporting a false promise while attempting to appear wise acting prudent—in my opinion, is not helpful.:no:

While military officials have observed the "Divine Intervention" that is providing their confidence that the infrastructure is being and will be completely dismantled, the vast majority of citizens have not.:no:

"Disclosure" to the citizens might be helpful, but there simply may not be time for that, the "good guys" are very busy, including keeping us out of harms way. We will eventuality learn of all that is happening out of eyesight, but we must not work against that effort. So, while you and I may not have physical proof at the moment, we must do what we can in relative safety: Do not underestimate your impact at the moment, this is not a private discussion: The words you provide here are read by thousands.:ranger:

It is vital now to throw out the Illuminati and their private and public accomplices, all enemies of our constitution—our unalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. We must work with and champion the effort and success of the Sacred Brass—to destroy our enemies and end the "reptoid chapter"—this is vital and much more helpful.:usa2:

First of all I have a cousin who was a top patriot and I also know some Patriot groups. I can assure you with certainty that DRAKE ain't no patriot as part of a group as Kerry is thinking here. With all due respect Kerry, you have no first hand knowledge, and actually I do. I know who Teri and a few others are on freedom reigns. I also know that they are NOT patriots in the way patriot is being depicted here...

All that be said, we are not going to know until it happens...not for sure. But given James Martinez' announcement on 1/1/12, and Ben's newsletters, and all the bank ceos resigning and all the many other signs here, it is absolutely not far-fetched to believe Drake.

For those who think our military folks wouldn't do what is right, you need to check out oathkeepers.org and also Stuart Rhodes videos.

I don't expect people to be right, what really disturbs is for Kerry and Bill to give such "opinions" without due diligence. But alas, we are all human and heaven knows they do so much!

for now it is wise for folks to have enough food and toilet paper :-)

blessings
Yvonne

[eaglespirit]

Those that were in the U.S. that are behind all of this long drawn out deceit and deception at the top levels inclusive of war manipulation and everything that goes along with it including murder, directly and indirectly...have already left the U.S. They will be found, imho. And it IS part of the plan. To get them off of this soil while monumental changes for the good ensue. These are my own words and thoughts.
This turnaround has all been diligently planned and put into place for some time now...adapting and overcoming behind the scenes.
As the 'nation-state notifications' went through in Hague the top manipulators of the mess we are in, knew it occured and went through, I'm sure as it happened.

[xbusymom]

AND...

I wouldn't get the horses riled up and chompin' at the bit just yet... I remembered something said from the Charles-Atticus ordeal... TPTB love to make fools of us via our predictions... so that when a prediction of some event is made, it is purposely delayed to active the ridicule effect...

I kind of get the feeling that THAT (Drake's) prediction was made with this in mind... a fake-out of sorts, to let us GET control of the ball ...

[foreverfan]

Hi, All -- a quick note:

I have to say that I don't believe Drake's testimony. I strongly suspect that David Wilcock is being played to discredit him. If so, this would not be the first time (and certainly not with Ben Fulford, either).

The very idea of announcing 'arrests' beforehand is absurd... if this is all for real. Think of how stakeouts are usually orchestrated. The agencies don't warn the drug gangs prior to the carefully co-ordinated dawn raids.

***

I'm currently traveling, but frequently check the forum for new developments of interest. I also posted this sometime last year: as Mark Twain famously quipped, reports of my death have been somewhat exaggerated.

:)

Warmest regards to everyone, as always -- Bill

Yea Bill... but they may already know it's coming too. Plus Wilcock did say he knew stuff he couldn't have possibly known. So who knows?

[DreamsInDigital]

I have to say, I am with Kimberly, Yavonne, Energygardener and that camp. I think a lot of Kerry's information is from a fear based mind set and heavily out dated also and her blog entry is filled with pieces of misinformation. Not shooting the messenger, just the message. And while I respect Bill, I have to politely disagree with him also. It's impossible to ignore the changes that are taking place, the major shift in energy that took place this past week is alone a strong indication of what is happening and what is coming. It's not hard to feel it if you are open and aware/tuned in enough.

[aranuk]

I have to say that I don't believe Drake's testimony. I strongly suspect that David Wilcock is being played to discredit him. If so, this would not be the first time (and certainly not with Ben Fulford, either).
Warmest regards to everyone, as always -- Bill

If David Wilcock is being played with, that may indicate that much of what David says is true. The "powers that be" have no need to discredit a lie.

A very wise statement you made there Rmauersr

Stan

[WhiteFeather]

Im resonating with David and Drake as well. Thought it was an awesome interview. Great job. Somethings up for sure. Bank ceo's resigning and moving to Paraguay perhaps.My spidey sense is starting to tingle.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Kek3GqbsTk

[Revere]

No spidy sense... but my BS sensor is twitchy on all sides... pro, con, the world is saved, the world is doomed, aliens exist, aliens don't exist, aliens are good, aliens are bad, main stream media, alternative media, etc...etc... It seems we have more "organized" and "personal" agendas afloat in a sea of grey then any one could count; with just enough truth sprinkled in from who knows whom to just keep it interesting.

But, stay positive and never ever stop INTENDING THE BEST FOR ALL OF US AVALONIANS! Man aren't our Intuitions getting one heck of a work out? It has been non-stop since at least the Charles affair! But, on the other hand human Intention and our own spiritual growth is about all we have until we can shovel through this current reality. Grab a shovel everyone!

Peace,
-R-
:lalala:

[Endity]

Wise word Revere

[lightseeker]

I agree WhiteFeather, I have been following David Wilcock's work for over 6 years and Projectcamelot/Avelon for just as long. I credit both these sites and their founders for changing my paradigm of reality. I have never looked back. David is a gifted writer and puts his information together with great clarity. I do not subscribe to the idea that what he is saying could or would be used by the dark cabal to render what is "Positively" going to happen. It is my belief and very strong intuition that the changes that are upon us which will transform everything in a positive manner. Whether people believe this or not changes nothing. It is happening already.

[Alie]

Interesting collaboration from James Martinez regarding banker arrests ...

At about the 54:00 mark on his 4/3/12 radio show today: CASH FLOW RADIO SHOW (http://www.achieveradio.com/archplayer.php?showname=Cash%20Flow%20with%20James%20Martinez&sn=66&ShowURL=http://audio.achieveradio.com/cash-flow/2012-04-03--1200---Cash_Flow.mp3)

[felixq78]

It's not Marrs, that's obvious and in any case Drake's told us that he's retired military. Why try to identify him, do we want him killed ? No of course not so let's forget about who he may be and concentrate on bringing this plan to fruition. It's going to happen, 80% to 90% of the military are behind it so who'd be suicidal enough to point a weapon at the US military not to mention the millions of armed US citizens. Hopefully it won't come to a shooting war, it shouldn't they are legally covered by the US constitution to remove the criminal bankers/corporate robbers and send them to jail on behalf of the US population. I'll only start to worry if the arrests don't go to the top of the pyramid and stay concentrated on the pawns.

[Mozart]

D.W was going to make an transcript of the interview with drake ASAP he said. Have u seen? cant listen to the interview without it.. :/

alxz ~

I'm the dude who did the editing and coordinating for the transcript that you have referred to that has been produced by the Divine Cosmos Keyboard Commandos.

I have sent the 'script to David and he's working on it right now. It should be posted soonest, in a matter of hours, or tomorrow (Wed, the 4th) at the latest ... that's my best guess.

[charlesfrith]

The very idea of announcing 'arrests' beforehand is absurd... agreed.

Also it makes reasonable sense that the clampdown could be the elites battening down the hatches and using Drake as disinformation so the new agers celebrate their own imprisonment... which is not so fantastic it couldn't' happen.

[sunnyrap]

I agree, Revere, this YouTube out of Russia had 4million+ views:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KgoapkOo4vg

[Alie]

i agree, revere, this youtube out of russia had 4million+ views:



awesome video - i'm a sucker for dance.

[sdv]

Bill, I really do agree with your message. I researched the International Court in the Hague, and what Drake is saying makes no sense, because the Court would have no jurisdiction in the matter of Pennsylvania, etc declaring itself independent. There are just so many holes in his story.
But David Wilcock used to be a meticulous researcher with an encyclopedic memory, and he used to play a significant part in helping people wake up and think for themselves and question ....
I think that the manipulation is perhaps having an audience that craves and even demands more and more sensation, and a couple of manipulative people who are not necessarily part of a wider conspiracy.
But in the long run I wonder if this Divine Intervention saga is not simply going to be used to justify and strengthen the oppression of people by immoral governments (public and secret).

[sdv]

By the way, a lot of the resignations could be because of burnout. I was in the corporate world where increasing profits and being the biggest and the best was the only agenda. I burnt out. I was part of a brilliant and talented management team. Not none of us is left in that company and all my staff (the best I have ever worked with) have gone as well.
A significant number of resignations could be because that is what psychopaths do - they create havoc and destroy and then they leave.
The arrests are a good sign that somewhere in this world there are still people with a conscience and the will to try to put right what went terribly wrong in our world.
I stayed up last night reading John Pilger and Joseph Stiglitz - a sobering reminder of just how unjust the world has become!
And yes, from what I have read about how the United States Empire works, a military plan probably does exist, but are you all forgetting that part of the problem is the military aggression of this same empire? Look at Africa where liberators have now become the very people that are destroying the continent with corruption and oppression and be very wary of liberators who promise miracles and ask the people to simply stay calm and follow orders!

[karelia]

<snip> I researched the International Court in the Hague, and what Drake is saying makes no sense, because the Court would have no jurisdiction in the matter of Pennsylvania, etc declaring itself independent.

From my understanding, it is not about the IC having jurisdiction but about informing an "authority" of regained sovereignty. If you, as an individual, reclaim your sovereignty, you would send your declaration to the United Nations, for example, amongst other places, such as the "authority" that issues birth certificates, driving licenses, etc, depending on your nationality. So for Pennsylvania, a state, it makes perfect sense to inform the International Court of its regained sovereignty.

[sdv]

Karelia, that is not the purpose of the IC. The authority to go to is the United Nations. The IC is an instrument of the United Nations but it does not deal with matters such as this. This is the jurisdiction of the court:
The International Court of Justice acts as a world court. The Court has a dual jurisdiction : it decides, in accordance with international law, disputes of a legal nature that are submitted to it by States (jurisdiction in contentious cases); and it gives advisory opinions on legal questions at the request of the organs of the United Nations or specialized agencies authorized to make such a request (advisory jurisdiction).
Since Pennsylvania has not been recognised as a State by the United Nations, the Court has no jurisdiction in this matter as a dispute. Since Pennsylvania is not an organ of the United Nations nor an authorised specialised agency, the Court has no jurisdiction over this matter.
Even if Pennsylvania did unilaterally declare itself independent, was recognised as such by the United Nations and then was in dispute with the United States about this, the United States has not recognised the jusrisdiction of the Court as compulsory.

[karelia]

Like I said, it is NOT about jurisdiction.

[sdv]

Karelia, it is about jurisdiction. What is the purpose of informing an authority that it has regained sovereignty other than the authority to recognise that regained sovereignty, and the International Court cannot do that because it does not have the jurisdiction to do so. What Drake claims has been done is a meaningless gesture.

Have a look at the matter of Palestine: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17602425

In the case of Kosovo, the United Nations appealed to the ICJ for an advisory opinion, which is why the ICJ did accept the case (however, an advisory opinion is not binding). This was the result:
On July 22, the International Court of Justice issued an advisory opinion on the following question posed to it by Serbia: "Is the unilateral declaration of independence by the Provisional Institutions of Self-Government of Kosovo in accordance with international law?" By a 10-4 majority, the court ruled that, because "general international law contains no applicable prohibition of declarations of independence", Kosovo’s declaration of independence in February 2008, coordinated with and supported by the American and most EU governments and subsequently recognized by 69 countries, "did not violate general international law." The clear implication is that no declarations of independence violate international law and that all are therefore "legal".
Do you understand why it is meaningless for Pennsylvania to have lodged papers with the IJC?

[Jean-Luc]

You might think this is off topic. In fact, I think it simply goes along with it.
Major changes are in the air.


Basically : Meanwhile, the diffusion of Keshe Foundation's breathrough new understanging of the building blocks of matter and of our Universe is steadily making its way and being disclosed to an ever wider public.

More information on the Keshe Foundation thread where I just posted this. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40800-Keshe-foundation&p=461009&viewfull=1#post461009)

[Mozart]

By the way, a lot of the resignations could be because of burnout.

*sigh*

I was able to make a graph using MS Word, but I was not able to transfer the image into this post.

Anyway, corporate burnout has always happened in the corporate world, so people leaving corporations has always happened at the rate of about 2,000 resignations per quarter, per the EDGAR stats in the SEC, which requires corporations to file paperwork for every single resignation of CEOs and CFOs in corporations.

So, in lieu of an inserted graph, I'm going to have to make-do.

The average CEO/CFO resignations has been 2,000 per quarter for many years, ok?

Each "X" represents 400 resignations, ok?

1st Quarter 2011
XXXXX (2,000

2nd Quarter, 2011
XXXXX (2,000)

3rd Quarter, 2011
XXXXXXXXXX (4,000)

4th Quarter, 2011
XXXXXXXXXX XXXXXX (7,000)

1st Quarter, 2012
XXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXX (16,000)


So, this is a MASSIVE jump in the corporate resignations. Did corporate burnout suddenly jump EIGHT-FOLD in just a few months? 800%?

No.

This ad-hoc chart shows that there is something ELSE going on. That's a HUGE jump!

What could it be?

Now, I edited/coordinated the Drake transcript, but since it's not yet been published, I cannot take quotes and paste them here, so I'll have to recap without quotes.

Drake got on the radio show and laid out the basic sovereignty information in May/June of 2011 and that was at the end of the second quarter of 2011.

Somebody in Pennsylvania took notes and sent off the paperwork to the Hague sometime in June, 2011. The entire paperwork process (for the majority of the Original Thirteen Colonies) was done by July/Aug, 2011. This was before the end of the third quarter of 2011 ... and notice that the rate of resignations DOUBLED in that quarter, so I think that the whole paperwork process probably was all done by no later than mid-July, 2011.

Then in the final quarter of 2011, the rate nearly DOUBLED again.

Then in the first quarter of 2012, the rate MORE THAN DOUBLED again.

So, in total, the rate has OCTUPLED from the average, normal rate of 2,000 resignations per quarter to 16,000+ in the first quarter of 2012.

SOMETHING ELSE is going on other than corporate burnout.

The vast majority of those corporations are closely tied into the central core set of the 147 corporations that have direct connections to the 2nd-tier of 3,000+ corporations in which the core set of corporations have direct control/directorship over.

Then there's the 3rd tier of many thousands of additional corporations that have profited massively from their connecting to the core tier and 2nd tier of corporations that are closely tied in with the Illoonynaughties.

Those rats are now jumping ship since they have lost their protection, now that the Illoonynaughties now will soon no longer effectively control the US military.

The MAJORITY of those in the US military are the good guys -- even if they don't know it -- and they would immediately align with the good guys who are in the know about The Plan that has been planned by the insider good guys for decades.

As Drake pointed out, there is an enormous amount of tactical positioning going on right now, so once the green light is issued and the initial arrest actions are taken, then the MAJORITY of the huge bunch of good guys in the US military will align with this movement and be available to assist.

Then you must consider that the good guys would have effective control of the Pentagon, so when that happens, there ain't a damn spot on Earth to which the bad guys can run to and hide themselves, or the money that they'd take with them.

Many guys in Special Forces will fully support the good guys, so just about all the goddamn Illoonynaughties will be apprehended, arrested and put into those FEMA camps while they await trial.

[Earth Angel]

Excellent work Mozart, even without the graph!!!

[Mozart]

Ok, about the debate over the jurisdiction of the ICJ.

What the paperwork that Pennsylvania team of American Patriots did was that it forced the ICJ -- that wears the hats of the Common Law and the Admiralty system of "laws" -- to RECOGNIZE that the inhabitants (notice that I used this word, instead of the "residents" word) of the Original Thirteen Colonies have declared themselves sovereign, thus, in effect, REBIRTHED the beloved Declaration of Independence.

The problem with the original Declaration of Independence was that it died when the last signatory who signed the document died, so it was no longer in effect.

So it was critical that the people who live in the Original Thirteen Colonies -- not officials with big-assed titles, not politicians, not corporate guys -- simple people within those states that were once those Original Thirteen Colonies to sign the paperwork that was accepted by the ICJ, per their rules, thus such paperwork now STANDS AS INCONTROVERTIBLE FACT AND AS LAW within the Common Law framework **AND** the Admiralty color-of-law framework.

Through the color-of-law adhesion contracts -- the Social Security numbers, driver licenses, voter registration, etc, etc -- the people had been converted into mere legal-fiction "persons", who are fully subject to the jurisdiction of the unlawful 14th Amendment and fully under the thumb of the color-of-law system that built on a massive base of duped, ignorant persons.

So when the few persons/signatories completed their Notification Process with the ICJ, they then were able to throw off the horrible yoke of corporate personhood and were reborn as We the People, who stand AT THE TOP of the power structure in the Common Law and the Organic Constitution of 1787, as Lawfully amended.

ANYBODY, ANY agent acting within the color-of-law system, or the color-of-law system itself has NO EFFECT, NO JURISDICTION over anyone who is a part of the We the People because the People -- each one -- is sovereign within a sovereign nation-state that exists within the Common Law that encompasses the Organic Constitution of 1787, as Lawfully amended.

Note that Drake said that everything was done to try to stop the process by the many agents of the Illoonynaughties within the ICJ, but the paperwork proceeded and was completed.

It has been a long-accepted tenet in the realm of law that when someone makes a formal, public declaration without any subsequent controverting of such a declaration, such a declaration would stand as fact within the framework of the Common Law. Every single newspaper of record in America has the "Legal Notices" column in the classifieds section that is used for this purpose.

Since the ICJ wears both the Common Law and the color-of-law hats, it HAS TO allow the Common-Law-based paperwork to be completed by the inhabitants of the Original Thirteen Colonies, as long as such paperwork was properly completed, per the protocols of the ICJ paperwork procedures.

By virtue of the completed paperwork, the inhabitants of the Original Thirteen Colonies had, in effect, rebirthed the Declaration of the Independence -- the very document that their own forefathers signed in their respective states/colonies -- and made it FACT AND LAW within the Common Law framework.

And BECAUSE the ICJ wears the hats of both jurisdictions, the color-of-law system is FORCED to recognize the validity of the rebirthed Declaration of Independence via the declaration of sovereignty within the framework of the ICJ system, in which the vast majority of the world's nations are signatories.

It does NOT matter if the USA, Inc does not recognize this new declaration by the inhabitants of the because the new declaration of sovereignty has not been controverted by the USA, Inc, nor by anybody else.

And the USA, Inc **CAN'T** controvert the new declaration, because if they tried to do so, they'd expose themselves very badly, so they are caught in an impossible bind, hence the fleeing of the rats jumping off the corporate ships.

The jig is up. The game is over. The corporate bastards have lost the game.

[Kimberley]

The jig is up. The game is over. The corporate bastards have lost the game.

Mozart bravo!!! Thank you for your great information!! And I am with you, it's a done deal!

Much love!

[karelia]

Thank you, Mozart. That is a most excellent explanation!

[xbusymom]

The very idea of announcing 'arrests' beforehand is absurd... agreed.

Also it makes reasonable sense that the clampdown could be the elites battening down the hatches and using Drake as disinformation so the new agers celebrate their own imprisonment... which is not so fantastic it couldn't' happen.

That may very well be true... but I still like my fantasy version better...

and here is another flash mob I liked...

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EDIT:

Ok, about the debate over the jurisdiction of the ICJ.

What the paperwork that Pennsylvania team of American Patriots did was that it forced the ICJ -- that wears the hats of the Common Law and the Admiralty system of "laws" -- to RECOGNIZE that the inhabitants (notice that I used this word, instead of the "residents" word) of the Original Thirteen Colonies have declared themselves sovereign, thus, in effect, REBIRTHED the beloved Declaration of Independence.

The problem with the original Declaration of Independence was that it died when the last signatory who signed the document died, so it was no longer in effect.

So it was critical that the people who live in the Original Thirteen Colonies -- not officials with big-assed titles, not politicians, not corporate guys -- simple people within those states that were once those Original Thirteen Colonies to sign the paperwork that was accepted by the ICJ, per their rules, thus such paperwork now STANDS AS INCONTROVERTIBLE FACT AND AS LAW within the Common Law framework **AND** the Admiralty color-of-law framework.

Through the color-of-law adhesion contracts -- the Social Security numbers, driver licenses, voter registration, etc, etc -- the people had been converted into mere legal-fiction "persons", who are fully subject to the jurisdiction of the unlawful 14th Amendment and fully under the thumb of the color-of-law system that built on a massive base of duped, ignorant persons.

So when the few persons/signatories completed their Notification Process with the ICJ, they then were able to throw off the horrible yoke of corporate personhood and were reborn as We the People, who stand AT THE TOP of the power structure in the Common Law and the Organic Constitution of 1787, as Lawfully amended.

ANYBODY, ANY agent acting within the color-of-law system, or the color-of-law system itself has NO EFFECT, NO JURISDICTION over anyone who is a part of the We the People because the People -- each one -- is sovereign within a sovereign nation-state that exists within the Common Law that encompasses the Organic Constitution of 1787, as Lawfully amended.

Note that Drake said that everything was done to try to stop the process by the many agents of the Illoonynaughties within the ICJ, but the paperwork proceeded and was completed.

It has been a long-accepted tenet in the realm of law that when someone makes a formal, public declaration without any subsequent controverting of such a declaration, such a declaration would stand as fact within the framework of the Common Law. Every single newspaper of record in America has the "Legal Notices" column in the classifieds section that is used for this purpose.

Since the ICJ wears both the Common Law and the color-of-law hats, it HAS TO allow the Common-Law-based paperwork to be completed by the inhabitants of the Original Thirteen Colonies, as long as such paperwork was properly completed, per the protocols of the ICJ paperwork procedures.

By virtue of the completed paperwork, the inhabitants of the Original Thirteen Colonies had, in effect, rebirthed the Declaration of the Independence -- the very document that their own forefathers signed in their respective states/colonies -- and made it FACT AND LAW within the Common Law framework.

And BECAUSE the ICJ wears the hats of both jurisdictions, the color-of-law system is FORCED to recognize the validity of the rebirthed Declaration of Independence via the declaration of sovereignty within the framework of the ICJ system, in which the vast majority of the world's nations are signatories.

It does NOT matter if the USA, Inc does not recognize this new declaration by the inhabitants of the because the new declaration of sovereignty has not been controverted by the USA, Inc, nor by anybody else.

And the USA, Inc **CAN'T** controvert the new declaration, because if they tried to do so, they'd expose themselves very badly, so they are caught in an impossible bind, hence the fleeing of the rats jumping off the corporate ships.

The jig is up. The game is over. The corporate bastards have lost the game.



So ... as I understand it... the constitution and DOI is only effective as a PERSONAL/GROUP STATEMENT OF FACT that the courts will never have controversy with because of the evidence of natural people never becoming their fictional corporate entities... and it must be renewed periodically when the covered parties cease to be covered (upon their death) as well as any new people/groups needing to get their own coverage statement(s)??

is that the gist of it???

[YvonneG]

Mozart...you rock! Thank you...People need to understand. Most folks not aware of these aspects are drawing a lot of needless conclusions. Thank you so much.

[Earth Angel]

well all I gotta say is...........

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and I love the time on this clip 2:22

[Mozart]

There are three systems of law.

1) Ecclesiastical

2) Common Law / Constitutional Law

3) Admiralty "law"

These systems of law actually date back to the oldest systems of law, the Sumerian systems of law that pretty much is the birth of the "modern" history of man as we know it.

But, for the sake of simplicity, I'll work with the post-AD systems of law that are currently in effect.


Ecclesiastical Law

The first one, the Ecclesiastical one, currently exists mainly within the framework of religion and religious entities today; however, this system of law was dominant during the church era in the Dark Ages where the Catholic Church was pretty much it in terms of law, education, power and wealth.

The Catholic Church still exists today as the first and still operating Corporation Sole that operates within the Ecclesiastical system of laws.

Back in the Dark Ages, the Catholic Church was it in terms of reading/writing -- the Bible, etc -- of education and of anything pertaining to the realm of governance.


Common Law and Constitutional Law

Things changed for the better, big-time, when, in the awesome Magna Carta, the idea of the Common Law was formalized and publicly born with the the public mind that one who lives on the land can be free from the tyranny of others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Carta

So, when the Magna Carta happened, a whole host of awesome writers/thinkers got busy and they wrote a ton of books, pamphlets that supported the idea and cause of freedom that culminated in the birth of the Declaration of Independence and the Organic Constitution of 1787, as Lawfully Amended.

Here's a great site to take a look into those older works on liberty/freedom:

http://constitution.org/cs_basic.htm


Martitime/Admiralty system -- Color-Of-Law system

Now, the Organic Constitution is fatally flawed and it was through those fatal flaws that allowed the third system of "law" to develop and take over the United States with the end-result of the EFF'd-up world that we are in today.

The basis of the Maritime/Admiralty system of "laws" -- such "laws" are really administrative rules and regulations, hence I always put quote marks around "law" when I talk about the eff'n Martitime/Admiralty system of "laws" -- is the idea of Prima Facie as being the underlying foundation of this system.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prima_facie

It was useful for governing ships at sea, but it was bastardized into applying it upon the land, especially the land of the newly-free and sovereign Citizens of the brand-new Republic that was born as soon as the Declaration of Independence was signed.

Europe operated fully within the Maritime/Admiralty system of "laws", due to the sheer amount of commerce that utilized ships as the main conveyance of commerce and conquest.

So when this young, brash and bold whippersnapper, the Thirteen Colonies, had the audacity of hope and change to boldly declare themselves free and sovereign, the Illoonynaughties in Europe were pretty keen to infiltrate and eff-up the new colonies whenever and however they could.

So it was absolutely critical for the European Illoonynaughties to STOP the ratification process of ratifying the Original 13th Amendment, so they were able to do so when they intercepted -- by the freshly-arrived British Red Coats -- the very last ratification document while it was en-route to the designation to make it official.

Stopping the Original 13th Amendment was THE KEY reason for the War of 1812. Don't believe those damn history books that tell you otherwise. They not only succeed in stopping the ratification of the Original 13th Amendment, they also burned down the Library of Congress that contained MANY critical documents that supported the new Republic.

Think about the timing of the British Red Coats arriving by ship at sea for a couple, three months, then snagging the LAST Article of Ratification right when it was en-route on a horse to the designation? I mean, man, talk about eff'n rotten luck! Damn!

With the Original 13th Amendment out of the way, the European Illoonynaughties were able to flood the new Republic after 1812 with a HUGE flood of an virtual army of men bearing those dreaded Titles of Nobility -- Attorneys -- to wreak havoc on the new Republic and kill it by implementing many bleeding cuts via legal means, here and there, everywhere in the several States, to the point of creating/fomenting a Civil War that was designed to be the final kill shot to kill the Republic.

And kill it, it did.

So the Constitution was born that included fatal flaws that could later on be exploited and used to create a system of "laws" that had the same name (i.e., "United States"), the same appearance (i.e. Constitution of the United States), but with a DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT effect of domination and subjugation of a people who had gradually been tricked into becoming mere corporate legal-fiction persons via the signing of numerous contracts that voided out their sovereignty, one-by-one.

But despite the fatal flaws in our Constitution, it's what we've got, so we need to work with it and use it to our advantage to throw off the color-of-law bastards.

Now, look at the difference between the Organic Constitution for the United States of America:

http://constitution.org/constit_.htm

And take a look at the corporate constitution that's the Constitution of the United States:

http://constitution.org/usconsti.htm#preamble

Look at the underlined "for" and "of" ... BIG DIFFERENCES THERE. The first one was created for the several States of the newly-formed Union of States; the second one was created by the USA, Inc, so they owned it, lock, stock and barrel.

Go to Article IV, Section 2 and see the difference of the capitalization of the key word, "Citizen" in the Original Constitution vs. the non-capitalized "citizen" in the corporate version.

BIG DIFFERENCE THERE!

And that's just one of many differences between the two versions. The Organic Constitution of 1787, as Lawfully Amended, is the legit version; the corporate version is not the legit version and none of those changes were properly ratified by the People themselves through proper ratification processes.

The Citizen -- with the capitalized "C" -- is one of the Whole Number of We the People, each of whom is sovereign and whom is superior in terms of standing and power with respect to their own government.

The corporate citizen -- without the lower-case "c" -- is a legal-fiction, corporate entity that is subject to the jurisdiction of the corporate United States via the unlawful 14th Amendment, hence that's why I always use the phrase, "as Lawfully amended" after "Organic Constitution".

The 14th Amendment was not properly, Lawfully ratified, so it is null and not in effect. The corporate 13th Amendment is also null and not in effect.

In other forums I had posted many times an impossible wish/dream of reverting our government back into the Organic Constitution that was created for the United States of America with the Lawful 13th Amendment in effect.

But over the years, that dream looked more and more impossible ... until this Drake interview came along and I was absolutely floored to see that high-ranking men in the US military, like Drake, also share this impossible dream ... BUT those men are in a position to DO SOMETHING about it.

And it seems that they plan to do it soon.

So our role, as persons who are yearning to breathe free, to once again become one of the Whole Number of the People, is to support Drake and our efforts to reclaim our Republic by shouting your mouse as loud as you can!

Shout your mouse! The USA, Inc is a goddamn elephant that has parked itself into our living rooms, our bedrooms, our closets, our TVs, our schools, our food, etc, etc., so let's kick that EFF'n pink elephant out of our lives for EFF'n good!

[Kimberley]

Thank you again Mozart!

However I do not understand "Shout your mouse!" ??? Never heard that before so thank you ahead of time for the answer.

[Alie]

Thank you again Mozart!

However I do not understand "Shout your mouse!" ??? Never heard that before so thank you ahead of time for the answer.

I think it means our shouting it out by using our computers????

[xbusymom]

Thank you again Mozart!

However I do not understand "Shout your mouse!" ??? Never heard that before so thank you ahead of time for the answer.

shout your mouse = post it everywhere... emails, blogs, make flyers, etc...

[YvonneG]

Mozart you truly are brilliant and I so appreciate you bringing forth this understanding.

[Saracatt]

Thank you for the legal explanations. This is all hard for me to sort out.

One thing I don't understand is how can this declaration of sovereignty apply to everyone if just a few people did it. I mean, I'm in Pennsylvania, and I didn't know anything about it. Neither do most Pennsylvanians I suspect. Wouldn't we all, or at least a majority of us have to go through this process for it to apply to the whole state?

[A Simple Human]

alxz ~

I'm the dude who did the editing and coordinating for the transcript that you have referred to that has been produced by the Divine Cosmos Keyboard Commandos.

I have sent the 'script to David and he's working on it right now. It should be posted soonest, in a matter of hours, or tomorrow (Wed, the 4th) at the latest ... that's my best guess.

@ Mozart,

You've provided this thread with some absolutely stellar posts. Thanks for your contributions. The banker resignations chart and explanation is quite intriguing. Nice work!

[crosby]

Thank you for the legal explanations. This is all hard for me to sort out.

One thing I don't understand is how can this declaration of sovereignty apply to everyone if just a few people did it. I mean, I'm in Pennsylvania, and I didn't know anything about it. Neither do most Pennsylvanians I suspect. Wouldn't we all, or at least a majority of us have to go through this process for it to apply to the whole state?

hi Saracatt, i am from western pa also, i have not seen anything locally about it, but then again, i do not think it will be published in the local papers. you raise a valid point, do we all need to claim sovereignty?

welcome to proj. ava.
warmest regards, corson

[karelia]

you raise a valid point, do we all need to claim sovereignty?


That would be the ideal situation, if everyone reclaimed their sovereignty. In every country. Not just America.

[YvonneG]

Mozart is starting to post at this thread for those who are asking questions and about the Sovereignty issues. I have been studying this for quite a while and I see that Mozart has the many missing pieces. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43340-Understanding-the-Sovereignty-Issues-in-the-Drake-Interview-with-David-Wilcock

[Avocadess]

I'm not a legal expert, but I have listened to that interview 3 times (yes, all 3 hours) and from what I understand there are a certain number of people needed to declare a state sovereign -- and because it does not take a whole lot of people to do it, that is why just how to do it and make it work was kept from the people (until Drake managed to get those missing pieces with his passion and tenacity). The fact that it does not take a huge number of people does not surprise me, because after all, look how few people it took to totally f**k the Earth and its people...! And remember, this is NOT about "overthrowing the government," but it is about arresting the corrupt oligarchs who have made for themselves positions of great wealth and power. Our government will stay in place, with some temporary people in any necessary spots.

[DreamsInDigital]

you raise a valid point, do we all need to claim sovereignty?


That would be the ideal situation, if everyone reclaimed their sovereignty. In every country. Not just America.
If every state does it though does that effectively apply to everyone collectively?

[Avocadess]

First things first, it gives them the ability to arrest these people -- but whether or not some of them could hide out in a state that has not been made sovereign? I doubt that would be a problem, since the Federal Marshals are allowed to cross borders to go after whomever they need to arrest!

[karelia]

If every state does it though does that effectively apply to everyone collectively?

I would think that yes, at least to a certain extent.

[foreverfan]

I need a Wicock update.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100108063233/uncyclopedia/images/archive/b/b5/20100108063328!Exploding-head.gif

[Avocadess]

Remember this is NOT overthrowing the government. Yes, things will change in a BIG way -- but the mass arrests are HUGE...and will leave us with many capable people who will no longer be having to work under the threat of their former bosses causing harm to their families, etc. I imagine there are quite a few who fall under this category -- not bad people per se, but who have been doing what they have been doing because of threat of torture and death of themselves and their loved ones.

[Avocadess]

The reason it does not seem absurd to me that people are being told in advance of these arrests is because when the clamp-down comes on the United States if we didn't make it go viral on the Internet what was going on, we could end up with people rioting, etc., assuming that the NWO has taken over and planning to take us all to FEMA camps and so on. Most people are NOT going to believe this story until that window of one day comes out from Drake and/or Wilcock that "it's going to happen in a big way within a day" and we are asked to make it viral. Why in the world would David Wilcock want to make it viral on the Internet that he is a total fool and pawn of the New World Order? Obviously, there is NO reason he would want to do that. And he was selected partly to be a spokesperson to get the information out because he was brave enough to use his real name AND he already is known to have the capability of reaching a LOT of people.

[A Simple Human]

@ Avocadess,

Excellent posts! Thanks for your insight.


Remember this is NOT overthrowing the government. Yes, things will change in a BIG way -- but the mass arrests are HUGE...and will leave us with many capable people who will no longer be having to work under the threat of their former bosses causing harm to their families, etc. I imagine there are quite a few who fall under this category -- not bad people per se, but who have been doing what they have been doing because of threat of torture and death of themselves and their loved ones.

Correct, it is simply the removal of an illegal one.


The reason it does not seem absurd to me that people are being told in advance of these arrests is because when the clamp-down comes on the United States if we didn't make it go viral on the Internet what was going on, we could end up with people rioting, etc., assuming that the NWO has taken over and planning to take us all to FEMA camps and so on. Most people are NOT going to believe this story until that window of one day comes out from Drake and/or Wilcock that "it's going to happen in a big way within a day" and we are asked to make it viral. Why in the world would David Wilcock want to make it viral on the Internet that he is a total fool and pawn of the New World Order? Obviously, there is NO reason he would want to do that. And he was selected partly to be a spokesperson to get the information out because he was brave enough to use his real name AND he already is known to have the capability of reaching a LOT of people.

I concur. I believe the message was intended for American citizens (and other interested individuals around the world) to prepare as many people as possible (without using the MSM) for an impending destabilizing event. The intent is to reduce the amount of chaos (rioting, looting, vandalizing, etc...) that will undoubtedly quickly follow such an event. It was also a means to dispel the fear of potentially seeing a military brigade in one's area.

I do accept that this type of event has been conceived of and developed over the past several decades. The only portion of "Drakes" report that I question is the time frame. Every time a prediction is made in the alternative community, it never seems to materialize; however, in this case, I do believe we will see some form of positive (on behalf of the people) military action before the end of the year.

[scotusa]

Mozart, don't forget Civil Law based on Napoleonic law from France. France (possessions?) and Quebec Canada use this as opposed to Common Law based on English common law.

[YvonneG]

I have reasons to really think it is truly going to be soon. Some of you will remember that Ben said the Pope was going to resign and also that the Dollar was not be accepted overseas. I don't know if this would hold up in a court of law ;), but I have a friend of mine who has family in Italy and also friends in the alphabet agencies. For months he has told me that those friends were confirming the arrests. Today he told me several things:

1. The friends in the agencies have told him they can not talk about anything now.
2. His brother-in-law traveled to Italy a few weeks and the "rumor" of the Pope resigning is spreading Italy
3. Before going to Italy, he went to the bank to get some $100 bills, the bank told him that they had to give
him certain series because anything after 2008 is no longer be accepted.

have a good evening my Fellow Freedom "Mouse Shouting" friends ;)

[Avocadess]

(previous post deleted: now realize this thread is under "general discussion" category!)

[sygh]

If this comes about, I mean truely comes about... I think we will have a revolution on our hands, I don't want blood shed but... I've got a feeling we won't get through this it without it.

Who currently holds in their posession the original constitution document(s)? That was a retorical question to be sure. I'd like to know who is supposed to be arresting these people and how they think they are going to get close enough to complete multiple (how many ten, twenty, one hundred) arrests? Will they be arresting the President, the ex president, or people in Congress? Will they attempt to arrest the heads of the Federal Reserve, or the IRS (we can hope)?

Is this not a declaration of revolution? Or, will the U.S. end up divided?

I'm sorry, I hate to be a party pooper, and I think many believe I am, considering my recent posts... well, maybe I am. I'm just calling it as I see it. Americans have been pushed to the brink on several occasions in the recent past. However, we've been too busy fighting not just one war but at least two and involved in at least three uprisings, if not more. I also believe our government has been preparing to fight on soverign soil for quite some time.

[Avocadess]

sygh, I think someone like you who has so many reservations about this really should take the time to listen to the full 3-hour interview. (I can tell that you have not listened to it because of several of your questions.)

I might be afraid this was a ruse to call martial law -- but the reason I am NOT concerned about that is because I totally believe it is true that our troops -- at least 80% of them -- would NOT agree to turn against the American people.

As far as having a revolution on our hands -- this can be prevented by people getting EDUCATED that this is coming down and being reminded how you can tell the difference between law enforcement and military doing their job and an Alex-Jones-warning-style martial law situation. I would ask you to please at LEAST listen to the whole thing before you put out a lot of energy creating more confusion on the issue than you ever really intended.

The people that are being arrested and will be arrested are NO-BRAINERS to be arrested. They will have their days in court -- but they will not be able to simply walk out of court because they bribed a judge (or whomever) anymore or because they had the chief witnesses killed, etc.

Who is still going to be in D.C. after the mass arrests will be a curious thing to watch, but from all I have heard I truly do trust that those who are doing this are coming from a place of helping to turn the rule of the country back to the PEOPLE.

[DreamsInDigital]

Actually the percentage is just above 90%

[Dennis Leahy]

... The only portion of "Drakes" report that I question is the time frame. Every time a prediction is made in the alternative community, it never seems to materialize; however, in this case, I do believe we will see some form of positive (on behalf of the people) military action before the end of the year.
Just to clarify a point (and I could be befuddled - I'm actually not deeply focused on this issue right now), but as to the timeframe: an anonymous person sent around a three-column sheet, Urgent Arrests Imminent which Drake and the crew at FreedomReigns.us concur and resonate with - except for the fact that the original publication had a specific timeframe mentioned: "In April." Drake said that no specific date will be given, no narrow frame of time, as it could hamper the agenda or get someone hurt.

Message to our glorious rulers:
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I want all the oligarchs, malignant bankers and corporate muckety-muck kleptocrats, bloodthirsty military warlords, police-state czars, weather modification field station commandants, eugenicists, alternate energy suppression mavens, genetic and nano-bioengineering labcoats, and other sociopathic self-exalted rulers atop the pyramid of power and wealth to relax.

Ain't no big thing.

No need to vacate the premises.

No need to change your underwear.

Everything is under control.

You have aces in the hole: friendly reptoids, free energy, scaler weapons, mountains of gold...and most of all, the sheeple people accept their lot in life. Hell, the sheeple people's neurons are so damaged that they don't even fire in-sequence any more. Plan? Strategy? Ha! Any little insurrection attempt will last 15 minutes, tops...and the only blood flowing won't be blue. All the brave little sheelpe people soldiers will be eliminated, the Department of Homeland Security will handle everything with the 400 million rounds of ammo they just bought, creating a macabre spectacle that will imprint a level and degree of fear so intense and so deeply into the rest of the sheeple people's DNA that they won't be able to look an oligarch in the eye without pissing themselves.

Golden Age - schmolden age. Bring on the Hunger Games! Champagne for everyone! (everyone at the apex of the Pyramid, that is.)
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Dennis

[aranuk]

What's with the purple script Dennis? BTW I'm not an early riser I am just going to bed now.

Stan

[Dennis Leahy]

What's with the purple script Dennis? BTW I'm not an early riser I am just going to bed now.

StanPurple for royalty?

I guess I don't really know if anyone is reading the forum and has changed the forum background colors. (Black automatically changes to white in a light-dark switch, but maybe purple is unreadable?)

It's sort of a tongue-in-cheek taunt to the Elite to go ahead and relax - the same crap they've been pumping at us through phony 'channeled' messages and disinfo agents. I like the opposition to be overconfident. Either way, if they piss themselves in fear of coming retribution, or if they arrogantly and confidently keep strutting... either way is ok with me.

Dennis
p.s. Someone please let me know if I need to change the purple text color. {edit: nevermind}

p.s.p.s. I now realize that purple text is unreadable on a dark background, and I removed the purple color.

[aranuk]

IMHO that's clearer to read Dennis, and I agree both ways are acceptable in that taunt. Was that your own work or did you borrow it? Either way it is great.

Stan

[Applecart]

here's the freedom reigns broadcast from 4/01/2012 http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/04/01/freedom-reigns.mp3
drake is on for the first hour and comes back halfway through hour 2, maybe sooner.

[Dennis Leahy]

IMHO that's clearer to read Dennis, and I agree both ways are acceptable in that taunt. Was that your own work or did you borrow it? Either way it is great.

Stanhahahhah that's my very own twisted mind, my friend. Now, go get some sleep! :~)

Dennis