Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

[Avocadess]

Per YvonneG's request I am starting this new thread because for some reason the software is not allowing her to begin a new thread. She has posted what can go as the first post:

New interview with Drake...updates, clarifications and more...a must listen

http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2012/04/14/even-more-of-the-drake-this-time-with-bill-wood-4-14-14-thankyouwhiteknights-radio-show-video-and-mp3s/ -- UPDATE: have been unable to correct this link but it is given by justoneman on the next page of this thread! -- [Mod-edit: Link fixed. Paul.]

I'll add here the excellent audio from Wolf Spirit Radio with Drake and Deatra from yesterday, April 14, 2012:

http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archive/UWW_April_2012/2012-04-14-UWW-Deatra-and-Drake.mp3

Also, it is my understanding that the following will be live TODAY at 5:00 p.m. (though I am not clear about this I think maybe that is EST):

Link fixed: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/04/15/freedom-reigns

:yo:

[Avocadess]

I'm still listening to the show from yesterday with Drake on Wolf Spirit Radio. He said thus far a couple things I never heard him say before. One is that included in the mass arrests will be "bad guys" in military. He said that the people doing this action to free our country are not affiliated with ANY group -- except that they are probably going to affiliate with the Native American group -- a tribal council -- that also deals with broken treaties, etc.

If I am not mistaken the "story" with Tim Turner will be dealt with extensively by Terri on the Freedom Reigns radio show TODAY (which link is in my previous post). I kind of doubt Drake is going to spend much time on it personally. He's busy enough.

[turiya]

I'm still listening to the show from yesterday with Drake on Wolf Spirit Radio. He said thus far a couple things I never heard him say before. One is that included in the mass arrests will be "bad guys" in military. He said that the people doing this action to free our country are not affiliated with ANY group -- except that they are probably going to affiliate with the Native American group -- a tribal council -- that also deals with broken treaties, etc.

If I am not mistaken the "story" with Tim Turner will be dealt with extensively by Terri on the Freedom Reigns radio show TODAY (which link is in my previous post). I kind of doubt Drake is going to spend much time on it personally. He's busy enough.

The Republic for the united States of America has already been re-inhabited with ALL 50 States. The de facto corporate USG is headed toward complete financial collapse. When this does happen, Rusa is set with funding so that a smooth transition will be able to occur - from de facto corporate USG to de jure Rusa.

Drake's claims (military support, financial funding, elimination of IRS, the FED, etc.) are all mirror statements that have already been stated by Tim Turner months and months ago. What he is referring to when he says this has been planned since the early 70s is the NESARA Plan - National Economic Security and Recovery Act. Everything that he states is nothing new. This includes the bit about working with the Native American Indian tribal nations.

The PTB have continuously used the strategy of 'Divide & Conquer' to maintain their control over the masses. What you will find is that this guy that goes by the name of 'Drake' will never say specifically what is going on. He will tell people to that they should do their own research.

My intuitive sense tells me that this guy will always state that he has to refrain himself from divulging too much. This is because he is working (whether he knows this or not for himself) as a disinformation agent of the PTB in an attempt to keep people dazed, confused, fragmented & divided, so that they can maintain control and implement the next phase of their hidden agenda

The clues that he works in support of the de facto USG are:

1. Drake says that the borders may be closed for a short while to keep the criminals from escaping with stolen wealth.
Note: Closing the borders will be, in effect, the implementation of martial law - making this country a literal big prison.

2. He advocates during this time to stay at home and stay tuned to the tv set, which has always been the key brainwashing tool that has been used by the de facto.

3. He says that there will be a "cashless" financial system that will be implemented. This is another significant part of the plan by the NWO.

Tim Turner has challenged 'Drake' to engage in a debate, suggest this be done on David Wilcock's radio blog using him as the moderator. Go to the following link to hear this: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1929127

Question remains: Will David Wilcock be intelligent enough, and have the courage, to have 'Drake' vetted in a public forum. The ball is now in Wilcock's court, since he had literally fallen 'head over heels' with 'Drakes' back woods shotgun style of speaking.

Do your homework,
Turiya -_-

[Avocadess]

TURIYA: You said:

"1. Drake says that the borders may be closed for a short while to keep the criminals from escaping with stolen wealth.
Note: Closing the borders will be, in effect, the implementation of martial law - making this country a literal big prison.

2. He advocates during this time to stay at home and stay tuned to the tv set, which has always been the key brainwashing tool that has been used by the de facto.

3. He says that there will be a "cashless" financial system that will be implemented. This is another significant part of the plan by the NWO.

Simply: NOT TRUE.

I have listened to no less than 15 HOURS of Drake speaking (including listening twice and three times). He says NONE of those things you are attributing to him. You are getting your information from someone ELSE, but NOT Drake.

1. Drake did NOT say all the borders will be closed. He said FLIGHTS will not go out for 1-3 days because any of the elite types that try to fly out can then be shot down. There will also be no roadblocks and no going into neighborhoods and rounding up people for FEMA camps. They are going for the UPPER and MIDDLE level criminals who have bankrupted our country and world (and worse).

2. Drake only talks about watching the TV AFTER the arrests have been made, NOT before. After the airwaves have been taken from the illuminaughty there will be MUCH programming to educate the people about what these guys have done to us -- and many will be surprised at the identity of many of these people, from celebrities to politicians and more. BEFORE that time he recommends we get to know our NEIGHBORS, get involved in our local communities to help and be helped -- whether it is community gardening or just watching out for one another.

3. Drake did NOT say we are going to a cashless society. He said we are going to EQUITABLE currency that is NOT through the Federal Reserve and which is backed by real value (i.e., gold).

Really I think it is less than conscious for people to come out shooting down Drake's message without even LISTENING to what HE has to say in his own voice.

Have the best day EVER..!!

[Avocadess]

The main concern I have in Austin, Texas is that so many people listen to Alex Jones and Alex Jones only. Many are living in total fear of martial law. I believe that Alex reports what he authentically believes -- but I also believe he is being USED to spawn FEAR. The illuminaughty just LOVE to control and create chaos and havoc with FEAR...~!

Of course it is not only Austin. Jones has millions of listeners. This is why I feel it is so urgent that we help get the word out among our friends, neighbors and strangers.

Another nationally known name that is spreading fear is Steve Quayle.

A YouTube link is now available of the excellent show with Drake and Deatra on Wolf Spirit radio April 14th here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2BbOOg0X_8&feature=uploademail

One thing I love about YouTube videos is they are easier to tell people about if you are away from your computer and trying to tell someone about these shows. You can tell them to go to YouTube and search: Drake Update Freedom Reigns and they can easily find it.

Drake also speaks near the end of this show about the recent way Benjamin Fulford got duped by people claiming to be who they were not. He said he believed that Fulford basically did not do his "due diligence" and this is hopefully a lesson learned and he expects Fulford to be getting back on track. (More info about the Fulford situation is also available in David Wilcock's recent blog on www.divinecosmos.com by the way.)

In the April 14th program with Drake and Deatra on Wolf Spirit radio, Drake said a couple things I never heard him say before that I find of interest. One is that included in the mass arrests will be "bad guys" in military. He said that the people doing this action to free our country are not affiliated with ANY group -- except that they are probably going to affiliate with the Native American group -- a tribal council -- that also deals with broken treaties, etc.

[foreverfan]

Tim Turner is a false flag. They are allowed to operate in the open and are trying to get people to join so they can all be rounded up when the time is right. This is why Terry and Drake won't debate him. Terry goes into great detail on Sunday April 15.

http://www.freedomizerradio.com/ Freedom Reigns. 3pm PST

[Snowbird]

Has anyone ever heard Drake address the issue of clones? Many of those who are said to be slated for arrest actually have several clones. How will they be able to tell the real person from their clones?

[DreamsInDigital]

Has anyone ever heard Drake address the issue of clones? Many of those who are said to be slated for arrest actually have several clones. How will they be able to tell the real person from their clones?
I am wondering the same thing, you are right. As clones have to be dealt with differently than humans. The easiest way to tell the difference it with someone capable of seeing auras, real humans have full auras, clones only have glows/auraic fields around their heads. Some of the ET/ED races have tech that can detect them, find them and also where the real people are if they are still alive that is.

[Snowbird]

Has anyone ever heard Drake address the issue of clones? Many of those who are said to be slated for arrest actually have several clones. How will they be able to tell the real person from their clones?
I am wondering the same thing, you are right. As clones have to be dealt with differently than humans. The easiest way to tell the difference it with someone capable of seeing auras, real humans have full auras, clones only have glows/auraic fields around their heads. Some of the ET/ED races have tech that can detect them, find them and also where the real people are if they are still alive that is.

Wasn't it John Kettler who recently cited a situation where the ETs/EDs had captured what they thought to be the real perp, only to discover that what they had hold of were clones? If I recall correctly, he said that the clones have a type of battery that runs down and has to be recharged. And it was this run down battery that alerted the ETs/EDs that they had a duplicate copy. They then went out and found the real human being.

We live in interesting times.

[turiya]

TURIYA: You said:

"1. Drake says that the borders may be closed for a short while to keep the criminals from escaping with stolen wealth.
Note: Closing the borders will be, in effect, the implementation of martial law - making this country a literal big prison.

2. He advocates during this time to stay at home and stay tuned to the tv set, which has always been the key brainwashing tool that has been used by the de facto.

3. He says that there will be a "cashless" financial system that will be implemented. This is another significant part of the plan by the NWO.

Simply: NOT TRUE.

I have listened to no less than 15 HOURS of Drake speaking (including listening twice and three times). He says NONE of those things you are attributing to him. You are getting your information from someone ELSE, but NOT Drake.

1. Drake did NOT say all the borders will be closed. He said FLIGHTS will not go out for 1-3 days because any of the elite types that try to fly out can then be shot down. There will also be no roadblocks and no going into neighborhoods and rounding up people for FEMA camps. They are going for the UPPER and MIDDLE level criminals who have bankrupted our country and world (and worse).

2. Drake only talks about watching the TV AFTER the arrests have been made, NOT before. After the airwaves have been taken from the illuminaughty there will be MUCH programming to educate the people about what these guys have done to us -- and many will be surprised at the identity of many of these people, from celebrities to politicians and more. BEFORE that time he recommends we get to know our NEIGHBORS, get involved in our local communities to help and be helped -- whether it is community gardening or just watching out for one another.

3. Drake did NOT say we are going to a cashless society. He said we are going to EQUITABLE currency that is NOT through the Federal Reserve and which is backed by real value (i.e., gold).

Really I think it is less than conscious for people to come out shooting down Drake's message without even LISTENING to what HE has to say in his own voice.

Have the best day EVER..!!

Avocadas,

Not true, well here ya go... btw, q-tips are on sale. ;)

Martial Law references:
1) www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KjZgsRt8PBc#t=6340s

2) "A Complete total clampdown... satelites shutdown, no international travel, etc": www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KjZgsRt8PBc#t=6380s

Presently we have a Noble Peace Prize President making war, i.e. war=peace, up=down, right=left.
I think that one is absolutely walking in their sleep if they can't read between the lines as to what this "Drake" is saying.

"Fool me once, shame on thee, fool me twice,then its shame on me."

Cheers, turiya -*-

[DreamsInDigital]

@ Snowbird:

Yeah, that's the short end of it. Plus they also ended up finding the place where those specific clones were made, and took out the facility as well. But, there are multiple places like Dulce, New Mexico, Pine Gap Australia, Mount Hood, Oregon, Camp David etc, where they make them that hasn't been dealt with yet. And, last I heard Kettler's ET/EDs were given tech by one of their allies that allows them to find clones and facilities and also the humans the clones were made from that are still alive. Though generally the human is killed and replaced with multiple clones some are kept in stasis to continue making clones as needed. Used to take about 90 days to make one, now... it's down to 24 hours.

[Avocadess]

Turiya, with all due respect, I have listened to that 3-hour audio THREE TIMES. He did NOT say what you are saying he said. I will not bother to repeat myself again to you about this.

People who are concerned should listen to Drake themselves. Don't believe me. Don't believe Turiya. Listen for yourself.

Have the best day EVER..!!

[turiya]

Turiya, with all due respect, I have listened to that 3-hour audio THREE TIMES. He did NOT say what you are saying he said. I will not bother to repeat myself again to you about this.

"Fool me once shame on thee, fool me twice shame on me."
Mind will paint the picture according to your expectations.

The link takes you to the exact point in the youtube interview. Listen to it again. www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KjZgsRt8PBc#t=6380s
Buy some q-tips Take the wax out of your brain.

Drake may be legitimately thinking that he is working for the good guys. What I am saying is that he may simply being used as a tool, unaware that he is being used. Used by those feeding him this crap!

I am simply saying - be aware. Start using & trusting your intuition, dust it off if you haven't used it much lately.

[Avocadess]

Turiya: Yes, you are correct about the clamp-down on national borders. I was guilty of visual listening and I was not picturing the bad guys DRIVING out of the country or BOATING out of the country but FLYING out of the country -- especially when he explained that they would be shot down.

I still believe the spirit of everything Drake is saying is NOT martial law -- and MUCH because I DO believe that our troops and many higher-ups in the military are NOT in the service to protect the illuminaughty. They are there to protect their friends, family and fellow CITIZENS.

If you wish to be fearful that is your choice. I find that being fearful makes my common sense go wacky.

Link I posted earlier for today's show changed somehow. Here is a working link:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/04/15/freedom-reigns

I was just told it begins at 5:00 p.m. Central Time (3:00 p.m. Pacific Time, 4:00 p.m. Mountain Standard Time, 6:00 p.m. Eastern Time).

[turiya]

Turiya: Yes, you are correct about the clamp-down on national borders. I was guilty of visual listening and I was not picturing the bad guys DRIVING out of the country or BOATING out of the country but FLYING out of the country -- especially when he explained that they would be shot down.

I still believe the spirit of everything Drake is saying is NOT martial law -- and MUCH because I DO believe that our troops and many higher-ups in the military are NOT in the service to protect the illuminaughty. They are there to protect their friends, family and fellow CITIZENS.

If you wish to be fearful that is your choice. I find that being fearful makes my common sense go wacky.

Nothing I have said is creating fear. I don't live in fear, it doesn't do anybody any good.

But just know well, there are plenty of minions of the Global power elite that will not want to see their world come to an end, they will not want to see their life styles having to change. They will do whatever it takes to keep what they have intact, to keep the system going as it has been going!

Its because they have bought into the system, hook - line - sinker. If the system as it has been goes down, it will mean a certain death to them of sorts.

Again, they will do whatever they can to keep it going, including finding a guy that will believe that he is working for a good cause, but only find out later, that he has been lied to, by those people that are above him in the hierarchy he is a part of.

'Vigilance' is the word of the day - for the next year or so.

turiya -*-

[NewFounderHome]

Per YvonneG's request I am starting this new thread because for some reason the software is not allowing her to begin a new thread. She has posted what can go as the first post:

New interview with Drake...updates, clarifications and more...a must listen

http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2012/04/14/even-more-of-the-drake-this-time-with-bill-wood-4-14-14-thankyouwhiteknights-radio-show-video-and-mp3s/

I'll add here the excellent audio from Wolf Spirit Radio with Drake and Deatra from yesterday, April 14, 2012:

http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archive/UWW_April_2012/2012-04-14-UWW-Deatra-and-Drake.mp3

Also, it is my understanding that the following will be live TODAY at 5:00 p.m. (though I am not clear about this I think maybe that is EST):

Link fixed: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/04/15/freedom-reigns

:yo:

Hello Avocadess,

Some of the link's don't seem to work. [Mod-edit: Link fixed. Paul.]

You have great info there . Nice job!!!

[Snowbird]

@ Snowbird:

Yeah, that's the short end of it. Plus they also ended up finding the place where those specific clones were made, and took out the facility as well. But, there are multiple places like Dulce, New Mexico, Pine Gap Australia, Mount Hood, Oregon, Camp David etc, where they make them that hasn't been dealt with yet. And, last I heard Kettler's ET/EDs were given tech by one of their allies that allows them to find clones and facilities and also the humans the clones were made from that are still alive. Though generally the human is killed and replaced with multiple clones some are kept in stasis to continue making clones as needed. Used to take about 90 days to make one, now... it's down to 24 hours.

Yes, I was wondering about those home grown sub-Earth bases being discovered and cleaned out. Drake's good guys are going to need that new tech, but how do they get a hold of it? Via John Kettler?

Wow, what a difference a day makes...24 little hours. :sad:

[DreamsInDigital]

Yes, I was wondering about those home grown sub-Earth bases being discovered and cleaned out. Drake's good guys are going to need that new tech, but how do they get a hold of it? Via John Kettler?

Wow, what a difference a day makes...24 little hours. :sad:
The ETs he/his (Drake) group I think are in contact with, if they are who I think they are 'should' have the tech. Otherwise like I mentioned, anyone that Drake has on his team that can see/sense auras will be able to tell the difference. I had once heard that it had gone from 90 days which it was in around the 1970's, to somewhere in the scope of 2 weeks. But, was almost surprised when I found out it had got down to 24 hours.

[Avocadess]

"Hello Avocadess,

Some of the link's don't seem to work.

You have great info there . Nice job!!! "

Thank you, NewFounderHome.

Here is a new link. I have no idea why the first one quit working. First a link to go to chatroom while listening and be able to ask questions in the chatroom (5:00 p.m. CST is when it begins):

http://www.freedomizerradio.com/

Or to simply LISTEN (and/or call in with questions):

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/04/15/freedom-reigns

Live today, Sunday, April 15, 2012.

Best!!

P.S. Scratch the questions idea. They just announced to questions today except possibly at the very end (for Terri). Drake gave a very short update and now it's Terri about to tell the story about Tim Turner in her own words.

[Mozart]

I have listened to no less than 15 HOURS of Drake speaking (including listening twice and three times). He says NONE of those things you are attributing to him. You are getting your information from someone ELSE, but NOT Drake.



You Go Girl, Avocadess!

I really appreciate your information, as I was worried about the information in the previous posts. Whew.

[Chester]

Per YvonneG's request I am starting this new thread because for some reason the software is not allowing her to begin a new thread. She has posted what can go as the first post:

New interview with Drake...updates, clarifications and more...a must listen

http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2012...ideo-and-mp3s/

I'll add here the excellent audio from Wolf Spirit Radio with Drake and Deatra from yesterday, April 14, 2012:

http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archive/UWW_April_2012/2012-04-14-UWW-Deatra-and-Drake.mp3

Also, it is my understanding that the following will be live TODAY at 5:00 p.m. (though I am not clear about this I think maybe that is EST):

Link fixed: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/04/15/freedom-reigns

:yo:

Hi Avocadess - the first link is broken but I think I found the right one in another post - perhaps you might edit your original post - Thanks - justoneman

http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2012/04/14/even-more-of-the-drake-this-time-with-bill-wood-4-14-14-thankyouwhiteknights-radio-show-video-and-mp3s/

[KiwiElf]

The "game" is afoot. Focus on the outcome you prefer. Peace :)

[foreverfan]

Well after listening to Terri for a few minutes it seem Tim Turner is so much more than a false flag/FEMA double agent... you can add liar and asshole to his resume. Oh yea.. fraud too.

[Avocadess]

Jeez. Tim Turner was already trying to form a secret government within the government before it even got started. :(

Whoa! And they were already planning to reinstate the Federal Reserve and IRS...! But only in the secret document...! Many people just got a 10-page document that did not mention this. The ones who got the document that mentioned this, it was on page 22 or 23. Unbelievable...!

A man who claimed to be an ex-FBI man told her that Turner also was also credentialed with FEMA. Turner had shown him those credentials, which the man said a person CANNOT keep once they are no longer in that position.

[foreverfan]

Jeez. Tim Turner was already trying to form a secret government within the government before it even got started. :(

Whoa! And they were already planning to reinstate the Federal Reserve and IRS...! But only in the secret document...! Many people just got a 10-page document that did not mention this. The ones who got the document that mentioned this, it was on page 22 or 23. Unbelievable...!

Yea I'm listening too. Unreal. I wonder is George Washington had this many problems?

[Avocadess]

Actually, according to Terri (and others I have heard) George Washington was not what he seemed to be in our history textbooks. But that's a whole 'nother story...!

Whoa, the more I hear the more this Tim Turner sounds like a real illuminaughty plant...!!!

[Mozart]

Some of the ET/ED races have tech that can detect them, find them and also where the real people are if they are still alive that is.


Thanks for that interesting info, DID.

Question: What do the ETs/EDs do with the captured clones?

[Mozart]

Actually, according to Terri (and others I have heard) George Washington was not what he seemed to be in our history textbooks. But that's a whole 'nother story...!

Whoa, the more I hear the more this Tim Turner sounds like a real illuminaughty plant...!!!

Yup -- that George Washington dude ... I've been mad at him for years! He was certainly not as perfect as we tend to think of him to be.

And I've been mad at Abraham Lincoln as well.

Sheesh, so few real presidents to be proud of.

Well, I DO really like Andrew Jackson, as he's one of the best presidents that we've ever had. And I really like JFK, too. But the rest? Bah, humbug.

[YvonneG]

"Hello Avocadess,

Some of the link's don't seem to work.

You have great info there . Nice job!!! "

Thank you, NewFounderHome.

Here is a new link. I have no idea why the first one quit working. First a link to go to chatroom while listening and be able to ask questions in the chatroom (5:00 p.m. CST is when it begins):

http://www.freedomizerradio.com/

Or to simply LISTEN (and/or call in with questions):

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/04/15/freedom-reigns


P.S. Scratch the questions idea. They just announced to questions today except possibly at the very end (for Terri). Drake gave a very short update and now it's Terri about to tell the story about Tim Turner in her own words.

If anyone one wants the truth about Tim Turner with evidence that will be posted after the call is over tonight, then they should listen to Teri on tonight's show on http://freedomreigns.us...I was in the republic...I know first hand stories about stuff from friends and now Teri has evidence that she is going to put up...recordings and all.

TT has never delivered on anything and I personally have caught him in many lies on the calls. I would recommend anyone who is just passing along hearsay and has not been personally involved to do your due diligence.

[foreverfan]

This Tim Turner guy sounds like the first one that needs to be arrested under common law.

[YvonneG]

Jeez. Tim Turner was already trying to form a secret government within the government before it even got started. :(

Whoa! And they were already planning to reinstate the Federal Reserve and IRS...! But only in the secret document...! Many people just got a 10-page document that did not mention this. The ones who got the document that mentioned this, it was on page 22 or 23. Unbelievable...!

A man who claimed to be an ex-FBI man told her that Turner also was also credentialed with FEMA. Turner had shown him those credentials, which the man said a person CANNOT keep once they are no longer in that position.

Teri will be putting up documents with evidence.. I was in the republic until I heard Drake and realized I had overridden my own guidance when I would catch TT in so many lies. So I was involved enough to tell you I know enough about this personally. But what I am hearing tonight freaks me out. I have also listened to alot of the evidence in earlier shows. This stuff is in Tim's own voice as well as others.
I am sad because I had a very good friend, I thought, in my state, who I wonder why he lied so much. Jeez...what a lesson...I stopped questioning all the discrepancies because he was my friend??

Please you all, trust me, I know some of this stuff first hand...I follow TT from the beginning when it all started with Sam Kennedy. And besides Teri is presenting evidence. What are we going to believe? some youtube video...some hearsay?

Blessings
Yvonne

¤=[Post Update]=¤

hopefully...he is worst because what a betrayal to those well meaning and faithful Patriots both new and old alike

¤=[Post Update]=¤


Well after listening to Terri for a few minutes it seem Tim Turner is so much more than a false flag/FEMA double agent... you can add liar and asshole to his resume. Oh yea.. fraud too.

Can you believe that I over-rode my intuition because my "friend" was his friend?...When I just look at the man, you can see is trouble soul with much falseness just oozing out of him. God help him.

[YvonneG]

Jeez. Tim Turner was already trying to form a secret government within the government before it even got started. :(

Whoa! And they were already planning to reinstate the Federal Reserve and IRS...! But only in the secret document...! Many people just got a 10-page document that did not mention this. The ones who got the document that mentioned this, it was on page 22 or 23. Unbelievable...!

Yea I'm listening too. Unreal. I wonder is George Washington had this many problems?

I imagine he did and more. I also found out today that many of the state folks who did the state paperwork for ICS and signed actually died. It was very dangerous. I have gotten this first hand from a friend at Freedom reigns. And it happened in my state. This was truly dangerous and truly a repeat of our DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE. One day I share more. For now that is all I can say.

And I have known who Teri is for several years. This is one major Freedom Fighter and honorable amazing lady.

[DreamsInDigital]

Whoa, the more I hear the more this Tim Turner sounds like a real illuminaughty plant...!!!
Exactly, and the ironic thing? Him and his followers are accusing Drake of being the plant (which he's not obviously). Now if that's not the pot calling the kettle black, then I don't know what is. But, it's sooooooooooo typical too of illuminaughty types too. Put a sheep costume on a wolf and get that wolf to call the real hero a wolf. Divide and conquer!

[Avocadess]

Drake is back on the show now (began around 1 hour, 55 min into it)...

Here's the link again: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/04/15/freedom-reigns

Teri is a great Patriot and a Goddess and Superhero!!!

Drake and Deatra announced that their future shows will be held on Wolf Spirit Radio, which has a larger audience. Here is a recent show with them on Wolf Spirit Radio:

http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archive/UWW_April_2012/2012-04-14-UWW-Deatra-and-Drake.mp3

LET FREEDOM RING...!!! WOO-WOO...!!!

:wink:

[gripreaper]

This thread is also running along the same lines as this thread. Do they need to be merged?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43522-Sovereignty-An-analysis-of-the-Wilcock-interview-with-Drake&p=468135#post468135

[Avocadess]

:noidea:

If they are merged I think it would be nice to give a new topic name like: DRAKE, SOVEREIGNTY ISSUES, UPDATES AND MORE

A short summary I just made for a friend who is deaf and unable to hear the show:

It was SHOCKING the amount of evidence Terri had about Tim Turner. A TENTH of what she said was enough to jail the guy...!!! She did say that TONIGHT she is going to upload a bunch of her evidence (both text files and sound files) to the website tonight. Not sure if she meant Freedom Reigns website but I think so!!

He had (at least two) international criminals involved in his setup (thieves), and was having secret meetings with a Rothschild nephew (!!) and oh my, the list goes on and on and on...! Not only that NO ONE in the sovereign states even nominated him for President, but he was setting it up that way. He also added a new position called Ambassador -- apparently one for each state -- which were spies for him. Oh my, it was CRAZY...!! One couple that paid him $1000 for IDs and tried to use them were jailed, etc. and by the time they got out of jail they had lost their home, their cars, everything -- HOMELESS -- and Tim Turner refused to help them. Oh, man, the list goes on and on!

[aranuk]

Drake said at the beginning that there would be something big with the bankers that we would all hear about in 2 or 3 days for sure. He didn't sound as if it was some kind of prediction, more like something he knew for definite. We wont have long to wait on that! He also said he has been speaking to people abroad who are excited about it all.

Stan

[aranuk]

The thing is this: when the US delivers its country back to whom it really belongs i.e. the good old American people, we can't just stop there. This will need to be extended to Europe and the rest of the world. The evil cabal has ran Europe for hundreds of years. They will have to be arrested as well. We will need help and lots of it too. Hopefully the US by helping itself will also be assisted by off world or and ED's who may help the rest of us. I live in hope. Unlike you guys we don't have arms. So we will need more than your blessings.

Stan

[ThePythonicCow]

The link takes you to the exact point in the youtube interview. Listen to it again. www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KjZgsRt8PBc#t=6380s


That link was not skipping into the point you intended (at least, it wasn't for me.)

But I translated the "6380s (seconds)" in the link to 1:45:40 (1 hr, 45 min, 40 sec) and found the point of interest. Here's a rough transcript of what I heard there. I will stop transcribing anymore before our transcription team gets the bright idea of trying to talk me into joining them :).





[Drake] ... [1:45:40] and I wouldn't be surprised, to be honest, with you, to wake up tomorrow morning and find out that the nation had been clamped down [inaudible] that clamp down is complete. [inaudible] You will not be allowed to make international calls. [1:45:56] There's going to be no ["self" ?] ["driving" or "flying"?] in or out of the United States, period. [1:46:00] [Wilcock] Hang on Drake, because you said that it would be a court martialling offense and unlawful orders if any soldiers would block roads and now you're saying that air traffic is going to be blocked. How do those things line up? [1:46:17] [Drake] ["... this is a deep one ... " ?] The closure, OK, [1:46:23] of our national borders does come under the military auspices of control. They are allowed to do so in the event of extraordinary circumstances. [1:46:36] This extraordinary circumstance deals with the freedom of our country.
More from Drake on this clamp down around 1:48:30 ... satellites down ... no flying out (planes will be shot down) ... complete clamp down for 72 hours ...

[DreamsInDigital]

That's the interview that has been fully translated and posted on David Wilcock's site, and can be read there in full context.

[ThePythonicCow]

That's the interview that has been fully translated and posted on David Wilcock's site, and can be read there in full context.

Aha - you're right. I see what I roughly transcribed a couple posts above (here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43793-Drake-Updates-clarifications-and-more&p=468413&viewfull=1#post468413)) is fully transcribed at http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1043-massarrests Scan down about 20% of the way to the section that starts "A NATIONWIDE CLAMP-DOWN".

[turiya]

Jeez. Tim Turner was already trying to form a secret government within the government before it even got started. :(

Whoa! And they were already planning to reinstate the Federal Reserve and IRS...! But only in the secret document...! Many people just got a 10-page document that did not mention this. The ones who got the document that mentioned this, it was on page 22 or 23. Unbelievable...!

A man who claimed to be an ex-FBI man told her that Turner also was also credentialed with FEMA. Turner had shown him those credentials, which the man said a person CANNOT keep once they are no longer in that position.

Hey Avocades, I'm back...
Personally, I am a little disappointed with you (as one who advocates being conscious & aware).

What about this "Drake" guy. He claims he worked for the NSA??? Gee, am I still imagining things? Or is it you still need to swab some of the wax out of your brain. Notice how he avoids using the lettered agency in how he describes having his security clearances.

Here's the link to that and more:
NSA Agent: www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KjZgsRt8PBc#t=2641s
His "PLAN" Involves moving to a Money-less (cashless) society: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KjZgsRt8PBc#t=8369s
THE PLAN (duh! Martial Law... wtf): http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KjZgsRt8PBc#t=6340s

[DreamsInDigital]

Turiya,

We've already addressed your erroneous claim of him saying about moving to a money-less cashless society, he said an Equity Based Money System NOT Moneyless Cashless, you really need to check your sources, and he has said almost every time that what he is doing is NOT marshal law. As for the other one? Considering you've been wrong so far about the rest , I'm betting your wrong about that one as well. And, considering the source YOU support , I'm just saying...you really need to do better research. And, really think about long and hard who you're supporting. T-Turner is the Cabal Stooge, NOT Drake. Get your facts straight before you continue your baseless attacks. How much is T-Turner's group paying you to come on here and be part of their "divide and conquer" program? And, an disinformation agent.

[turiya]

Turiya,

We've already addressed your erroneous claim of him saying about moving to a money-less cashless society, he said an Equity Based Money System NOT Moneyless Cashless, you really need to check your sources, and he has said almost every time that what he is doing is NOT marshal law. As for the other one? Considering you've been wrong so far about the rest , I'm betting your wrong about that one as well. And, considering the source YOU support , I'm just saying...you really need to do better research. And, really think about long and hard who you're supporting. T-Turner is the Cabal Stooge, NOT Drake. Get your facts straight before you continue your baseless attacks.

Its not erroneous, its in his own words, not mine.
You haven't listened to the link. You can hear can't you? Are you stuck in the mud?
What part of "Complete closure of the borders" is not part of martial law???

What part of "money-less" system doesn't mean "cashless". duh! Its the same thing.
Are you also an agent?

turiya -*-

[foreverfan]

Drake said at the beginning that there would be something big with the bankers that we would all hear about in 2 or 3 days for sure. He didn't sound as if it was some kind of prediction, more like something he knew for definite. We wont have long to wait on that! He also said he has been speaking to people abroad who are excited about it all.

Stan

Err... I think the law suit on the Federal Reserve reported on www.devinecosmos.com qualifies.

[DreamsInDigital]

Turiya,

I read the interview you are referring to over 3 times, I'm quite clear on what he really truly said and has been saying all along..I have been following him for a long time and have my own sources. Stuck in the mud? No, but I'm betting you must be to not recognize an Cabal Stooge like T-Turner when he presents himself. And, btw. I have nothing more to say to you..as the saying goes "Don't Feed The Trolls." Specially after midnight.

[turiya]

I read the interview over 3 times, I'm quite clear on what he really truly said and has been saying all along.. Stuck in the mud? No, but I'm betting you must be to not recognize an Cabal Stooge like T-Turner when he presents himself. And, btw. I have nothing more to say to you..as the saying goes "Don't Feed The Trolls." Specially after midnight.

What, having an open discussion about a disagreement is not welcome here??? Seems you don't want your boat rocked - You got yourself stuck in the mud! Enjoy.

[gripreaper]

Err... I think the law suit on the Federal Reserve reported on www.devinecosmos.com qualifies.

Lawsuit? What lawsuit against the Federal Reserve? Do you have the court case cause numbers so we can look it up in Pacer? What liens? You seen any judicial filings on a court judgment against the Federal Reserve which would constitute a legal lien? What affidavits? Do you see ANY affidavits which are notarized and qualify as judicial documents which can be used as evidence in a judicial action?

Didn't think so.

[Avocadess]

Turiya, I don't really care to converse with people who have a name-calling approach toward me. I am posting what I believe honestly. I do not see why you feel a need to attack me if you really are looking for the truth, as I am.

Enuf said.

[turiya]

Turiya, I don't really care to converse with people who have a name-calling approach toward me. I am posting what I believe honestly. I do not see why you feel a need to attack me if you really are looking for the truth, as I am.

Enuf said.

Show me where I called you a name.
I may have suggested that you did not hear the interview correctly, but I have not called you any name.
I am sorry that you have a misunderstanding.

Best regards
turiya -*-

[turiya]

Turiya,

I read the interview you are referring to over 3 times, I'm quite clear on what he really truly said and has been saying all along..I have been following him for a long time and have my own sources. Stuck in the mud? No, but I'm betting you must be to not recognize an Cabal Stooge like T-Turner when he presents himself. And, btw. I have nothing more to say to you..as the saying goes "Don't Feed The Trolls." Specially after midnight.

I am sorry that you also have a great misunderstanding.
Cheers to you.
turiya -*-

[Chester]

There is taking specific groups of words - sound bytes - and then applying an interpretation of meaning which the casual reader may then buy into the interpretation, and then there is spending hours listening to entire interviews where one can more properly discern the more likely intentions of the subject - in this case Drake. If you have done so, regardless of these isolated specifics you would likely support these intentions... as long as you have the best intentions for humanity foremost.

[gripreaper]

There is taking specific groups of words - sound bytes - and then applying an interpretation of meaning which the casual reader may then buy into the interpretation, and then there is spending hours listening to entire interviews where one can more properly discern the more likely intentions of the subject - in this case Drake. If you have done so, regardless of these isolated specifics you would likely support these intentions... as long as you have the best intentions for humanity foremost.

I support the idea of mankind moving into an awakening and a spiritual consciousness of self realization, self determination, and self responsibility. I do not endorse the "savior" meme, no matter how it is packaged. None of what Drake is saying is supported by ANY paperwork which we can verify. The exhibits which are on David Wilcocks website in his recent blog posting called "MAJOR EVENT, Liens filed against all 12 Federal Reserve Banks" are pathetic and have no legal basis whatsoever. What liens? What lawsuits? What affidavits?

So, to "broad brush" my response to your post where you claim that there is a lawsuit against the Federal Reserve and that should be enough "qualification" for something, or anything for that matter, needs to be challenged. You need to support your statements with facts, links, and truth, or you can expect them to be challenged.

So far Drake has shown nothing, has been evasive, has made claims of Sovereignty of the original 13 colonies, without anything to back it up. No one has challenged the jurisdiction of the Hague as NOT being a de facto jurisdiction, although I have addressed this in many of the threads.

So far we have nothing, absolutely nothing.

[Mozart]

Here's a rough transcript of what I heard there. I will stop transcribing anymore before our transcription team gets the bright idea of trying to talk me into joining them

:)




Hmmm, Paul, you know what? That's a good idea, man. You have shown to have a sharp eye for editing an editor's (mine, that is) mess ups here in this here dagum forum, so I think that we (the Divine Cosmos Keyboard Commandos) ought to get into a bidding war with the Avalon Transcript Team for your services, yes?


And what shall we bid? Hmmm, hey, how about pints of Ben 'n Jerry's ice cream? I have stored away tons of those in my freezer. I had a choice between getting the ice cream or getting TP, per Drakes instructions ... I chose the ice cream and figured to let the chips (or whatever!) fall where they may in the aftermath of eating the ice cream!

:peep:

[xbusymom]

More from Drake on this clamp down around 1:48:30 ... satellites down ... no flying out (planes will be shot down) ... complete clamp down for 72 hours ...

I suspect THEY won't leave by regular transportation methods...

there is a cave in area 51, a cave behind the pentagon, and iron mountain in colorado... and others have alluded to an entrance somewhere in MO ozarks???
Does anybody really know where those caves and tunnels lead to? and who know how many other underground hideaways they have created???

[Mozart]

I suspect THEY won't leave by regular transportation methods...

there is a cave in area 51, a cave behind the pentagon, and iron mountain in colorado... and others have alluded to an entrance somewhere in MO ozarks???
Does anybody really know where those caves and tunnels lead to? and who know how many other underground hideaways they have created???



Xbusymom ~

The number of DUMBs in the US alone is reported to be around 133+. Well over 50 of the DUMBs world-wide have been destroyed by the ETs.

And the damn dark elites have also built many, many space-going ships -- some of them HUGE -- that are powered by free energy devices. They've been able to fly all over our own solar system and beyond.

The ETs have quarantined those ships owned/operated by the dark bastard elites, so this means of escape is out, also.

Keep in mind that we have the ETs on our side, so even if a few of the dark bastard elites were able to escape to some hidden place, the ETs will know exactly where they are and the ETs will be able to tip off our own Special Forces, who'd then be able to storm in, SWAT-style, and take those bastards as well.

I'm confident that NOT ONE dark elite bastard will get away with it. NOT ONE.

[KiwiElf]

These may be connected events; maybe not:

* Our (NZ) Prime Minister, John Keys, has just tied up some interesting (apparently positive) trade deals in Indonesia - refer to Drake, Wilcock & Fulford's comments about the gold held in Indonesia
- The alleged PTW "attack" on Japan (Earthquake/Tsunami/Fukushima)
- The alleged PTW "attack" on NZ (Chistchurch earthquakes, and in a separate article, apparently there is a US HAARP Base in Christchurch
Both countries allegedly told the PTW to "shove it" according to Fulford.

* Major Stock Markets (Dow, Nazdeq etc) were just shown on the MSM as Black/Red: Zero movement or falling

There are many pieces to this jigsaw.

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

I found terri's speech at the end so inspiring! May the great spirit protect us all.

[YvonneG]

I have listened to no less than 15 HOURS of Drake speaking (including listening twice and three times). He says NONE of those things you are attributing to him. You are getting your information from someone ELSE, but NOT Drake.



yes you go girl!
I had wanted to thank you for starting the thread. Yesterday as I listened Teri, I had to digest it all because I was in the republic and signed and finger print and everything. I was too tired last night to thank you so here it is! So glad you are listening to everything, so I don't have to worry about running back here to do report it. I am now one of 2 people in my state that are working on gathering people and informing about the County project and such, as people communicate through freedom reigns, they are sent to me and my friend so i be quite busy.

[modwiz]

Turiya,

We've already addressed your erroneous claim of him saying about moving to a money-less cashless society, he said an Equity Based Money System NOT Moneyless Cashless, you really need to check your sources, and he has said almost every time that what he is doing is NOT marshal law. As for the other one? Considering you've been wrong so far about the rest , I'm betting your wrong about that one as well. And, considering the source YOU support , I'm just saying...you really need to do better research. And, really think about long and hard who you're supporting. T-Turner is the Cabal Stooge, NOT Drake. Get your facts straight before you continue your baseless attacks. How much is T-Turner's group paying you to come on here and be part of their "divide and conquer" program? And, an disinformation agent.

I agree with your assessment here. It is my conclusion that unwittingly or not, T is functioning as a TT troll. May just be misplaced passion, but the disruptive effects and diversionary topic tactics are in play here.

[turiya]

I agree with your assessments here. It is my conclusion that unwittingly or not, T is functioning as a TT troll. May jsut be misplaced passion but the disruptive effects and diversionary topic tactic are in play here.

The title of this forum is Re: Drake: Updates, clarifications and more
Perhaps, you don't accept, or agree with my posted clarifications, it may not go hand in glove with your expectations. It may be an inconvenient truth for you to handle, which is a matter for you to come to grips within yourself.

Continue with your pasting of labels and the name calling if you like, but this will only reveal your own true colors of being - the non acceptance of yourself on a deeper level.

All I am doing is showing a different perspective from what most here would prefer to consider. Because everything "Drake" has spoken about is nothing new. It is all borrowed from what Tim Turner has said previously. Most of which can be found in Tim Turner's "America Can Be Free" seminars that are on youtube videos. Its easy stuff to research if anybody is willing to take the time.

And I happen to be one willing enough to take the time to show the truth, to make clarifications about "Drake's" so-called updated material. Most of it has been stolen from Tim Turner.
I apologize beforehand to those that will have their feathers ruffled.

I am sorry that there is a misunderstanding that you have.
turiya -*-

[Chester]

I agree with your assessments here. It is my conclusion that unwittingly or not, T is functioning as a TT troll. May jsut be misplaced passion but the disruptive effects and diversionary topic tactic are in play here.

The title of this forum is Re: Drake: Updates, clarifications and more
Perhaps, you don't accept, or agree with my posted clarifications, it may not go hand in glove with your expectations. It may be an inconvenient truth for you to handle, which is a matter for you to come to grips within yourself.

Continue with your pasting of labels and the name calling if you like, but this will only reveal your own true colors of being - the non acceptance of yourself on a deeper level.

I failed to see any name calling in Modwiz's post. I do clearly read a derogatory characterization of Modwiz stated in a way that suggests to the reader the commentator, Turiya, has special insights into the more complex inner workings of Modwiz or anyone else for that matter in these last few sentences.

This appears to be an attack on Modwiz as a person as opposed to stating a contributory set of counter positions of Modwiz's post.

Two people - one appears mature, the other appears a bit childish. If I am correct, when straightforward arguments cannot be made, the arguer usually resorts to childish tactics such as name calling and/or making disparaging remarks.



All I am doing is showing a different perspective from what most here would prefer to consider. Because everything "Drake" has spoken about is nothing new. It is all borrowed from what Tim Turner has said previously. Most of which can be found in Tim Turner's "America Can Be Free" seminars that are on youtube videos. Its easy stuff to research if anybody is willing to take the time.

In reading the above paragraph, I get the sense that Turiya believes that information related to the possibility that humanity could truly free itself is something that should be credited to Tim Turner as if he owns the information. This implies that if all this information originated from Tim Turner then perhaps Tim Turner and only Tim Turner should be the one and only individual (and/or those he may appoint to be his representatives) to speak about these truths which then implies he should become some leader guy we all depend upon to implement actions that could lead to the freedom of humanity where he and his government ultimately take over.

It seems, and I am not real smart, but it seems to me that the goal(s) here are a wee bit more important than arguments raised by Turiya that attempt to steer the reader to agree with her into "following" a Tim Turner.

The many times stated message coming from Drake is that the efforts of the folks he is working with have a clear intent to stay away from leaders and/or groups of people emerging as the next governmental force.

The impression I get is the primary goal with Drake and many he is working with is to give Americans a chance to live free in a land that was promised in the original Constitution and that his efforts as well as the folks he is working with are meant solely to place us in that position.



And I happen to be one willing enough to take the time to show the truth, to make clarifications about "Drake's" so-called updated material. Most of it has been stolen from Tim Turner.


With the TT movement, I get the heebie geebies and with Drake's efforts, I get a good feeling. Thus my intuition suggests I trust Drake and Wilcock and Ben Fulford more than I trust RuSA.

I also get a bad feeling when "freedom" is professionally packaged and sold. I spend zero for Drake's information. I spend zero for Wilcock's information. I pay $8 a month for Fulford's information (he cannot accept donations due to Japanese regulations).

Then last night (2012/04/15) I listened to the freedomreigns web show and heard enough pretty spooky information backed up by so much likely verifiable fact regarding TT et al from someone Drake clearly trusts and respects that I am further convinced as to who I trust.

[ThePythonicCow]

... but the disruptive effects and diversionary topic tactics are in play here.
Sure looks that way to me too.

(Which is not to say I am clear on who's diverting whom from what yet ... I'm usually a bit slower figuring that out.)

:) :cow: :)

[turiya]

[QUOTE=modwiz;468664]
I agree with your assessments here. It is my conclusion that unwittingly or not, T is functioning as a TT troll. May jsut be misplaced passion but the disruptive effects and diversionary topic tactic are in play here.

I failed to see any name calling in Modwiz's post. I do clearly read a derogatory characterization of Modwiz stated in a way that suggests to the reader the commentator, Turiya, has special insights into the more complex inner workings of Modwiz or anyone else for that matter in these last few sentences.

This appears to be an attack on Modwiz as a person as opposed to stating a contributory set of counter positions of Modwiz's post.

Two people - one appears mature, the other appears a bit childish. If I am correct, when straightforward arguments cannot be made, the arguer usually resorts to childish tactics such as name calling and/or making disparaging remarks.



All I am doing is showing a different perspective from what most here would prefer to consider. Because everything "Drake" has spoken about is nothing new. It is all borrowed from what Tim Turner has said previously. Most of which can be found in Tim Turner's "America Can Be Free" seminars that are on youtube videos. Its easy stuff to research if anybody is willing to take the time.

In reading the above paragraph, I get the sense that Turiya believes that information related to the possibility that humanity could truly free itself is something that should be credited to Tim Turner as if he owns the information. This implies that if all this information originated from Tim Turner then perhaps Tim Turner and only Tim Turner should be the one and only individual (and/or those he may appoint to be his representatives) to speak about these truths which then implies he should become some leader guy we all depend upon to implement actions that could lead to the freedom of humanity where he and his government ultimately take over.

It seems, and I am not real smart, but it seems to me that the goal(s) here are a wee bit more important than arguments raised by Turiya that attempt to steer the reader to agree with her into "following" a Tim Turner.

The many times stated message coming from Drake is that the efforts of the folks he is working with have a clear intent to stay away from leaders and/or groups of people emerging as the next governmental force.

The impression I get is the primary goal with Drake and many he is working with is to give Americans a chance to live free in a land that was promised in the original Constitution and that his efforts as well as the folks he is working with are meant solely to place us in that position.



And I happen to be one willing enough to take the time to show the truth, to make clarifications about "Drake's" so-called updated material. Most of it has been stolen from Tim Turner.


With the TT movement, I get the heebie geebies and with Drake's efforts, I get a good feeling. Thus my intuition suggests I trust Drake and Wilcock and Ben Fulford more than I trust RuSA.

I also get a bad feeling when "freedom" is professionally packaged and sold. I spend zero for Drake's information. I spend zero for Wilcock's information. I pay $8 a month for Fulford's information (he cannot accept donations due to Japanese regulations).

Then last night (2012/04/15) I listened to the freedomreigns web show and heard enough pretty spooky information backed up by so much likely verifiable fact regarding TT et al from someone Drake clearly trusts and respects that I am further convinced as to who I trust.


I have listened to most of what Teri Hinkle has had to say, from the point where she talked about Tim's Homeland Security credentials. Will have to go back later and listen to the first part of it. One thing for sure is that there are going to be embellishments about what is actually happening on both sides of this aisle.

But it cannot be denied that many people that have been part of early RAP & RusA got frustrated because of the lack of communication that was going on. Emotions throughout the different assemblies in the various States were running high. Florida, Oregon, Texas, Wisconsin & perhaps Minnesota were in particular having problems with egos being stepped on, and who was positioning themselves to be in control. My personal reason for backing away was because I felt that the Restore America Plan/RuSA was being used too much as a platform to promote the fundamentalist Christian 'Born Again' movement ideology.

What you say about Tim is what I am feeling with this guy "Drake". The biggest thing for me is that Tim has always appeared to me to speak with words that seemed to resonate from his heart. And he has always been quite out in front with his past history of working (on the county level) with FEMA, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKjQriec7JE#t=445s

"Drake", on the other hand, will not come out and directly say that he worked for NSA. Where else would he get high level security clearances, as he has said in that Wilcock interview, for being involved with the nuclear defense of the United States?

It may be true that Turner may still have FEMA credentials from those days, after all it was a county level position. Perhaps he held onto the FEMA ID as a souvenir/keepsake item. I suspect Tim will come back on with an response to all these allegations at some point.

And, because people are waking up, I can't but get the feeling that the de facto USG is gearing up for a big showdown with those involved in re-inhabiting the Republic form of government. This is what SPLC & ADL have been moving towards http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1896272, and there was that 60 minute 'hit' piece that was done last year in attempting to connect certain violent incidents with the sovereignty movement. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKFX5S4S-sE&feature=related

The question arises: Is "Drake", a former NSA agent, part of a de facto USG project of going after those in the Sovereignty Movement? (Perhaps, he still works for that de facto government agency?) As it was said before, the Global Power Elite NWO have continuously maintained their grip and control over the masses by keeping them divided and at each others' throats. A job well done, Mr. "Drake". I am sure he will receive a good pat on the back by his superiors. "Drake" may not be aware that he may be simply being used as a tool by his Global Power Elite bosses whom he may be still working for.

The big disappointment came at the end of that recent Freedomizer Radio thing is that after making these allegations, both "Drake" Teri Hinkle have categorically refused to have a debate with Tim Turner. Instead, Teri plans on slinking back into the shadows, I suspect "Drake" will be doing the same. A job well done? We shall all see.

If you go through all those Tim Turner "America Can Be Free" seminar videos, you will see where "Drake" is getting his material from. Take a look and you will see where its coming from.

I'm not trying to promote Tim Turner, but I would certainly not be willing to be so easily swayed by some mystery man that doesn't use his real name, that has borrowed information, and has not in any way come out in front of a camera to show himself to anyone. Be gullible if you like, if that is what intuition means to you.

BYW, calling someone a 'Troll' is a derogatory name, the same goes for saying someone is 'childish', it is name calling in my book. Its a sign your feathers have been ruffled. Get over it & use to it.

Best... turiya -*-

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

[QUOTE=modwiz;468664]
I agree with your assessments here. It is my conclusion that unwittingly or not, T is functioning as a TT troll. May jsut be misplaced passion but the disruptive effects and diversionary topic tactic are in play here.

I failed to see any name calling in Modwiz's post. I do clearly read a derogatory characterization of Modwiz stated in a way that suggests to the reader the commentator, Turiya, has special insights into the more complex inner workings of Modwiz or anyone else for that matter in these last few sentences.

This appears to be an attack on Modwiz as a person as opposed to stating a contributory set of counter positions of Modwiz's post.

Two people - one appears mature, the other appears a bit childish. If I am correct, when straightforward arguments cannot be made, the arguer usually resorts to childish tactics such as name calling and/or making disparaging remarks.



All I am doing is showing a different perspective from what most here would prefer to consider. Because everything "Drake" has spoken about is nothing new. It is all borrowed from what Tim Turner has said previously. Most of which can be found in Tim Turner's "America Can Be Free" seminars that are on youtube videos. Its easy stuff to research if anybody is willing to take the time.

In reading the above paragraph, I get the sense that Turiya believes that information related to the possibility that humanity could truly free itself is something that should be credited to Tim Turner as if he owns the information. This implies that if all this information originated from Tim Turner then perhaps Tim Turner and only Tim Turner should be the one and only individual (and/or those he may appoint to be his representatives) to speak about these truths which then implies he should become some leader guy we all depend upon to implement actions that could lead to the freedom of humanity where he and his government ultimately take over.

It seems, and I am not real smart, but it seems to me that the goal(s) here are a wee bit more important than arguments raised by Turiya that attempt to steer the reader to agree with her into "following" a Tim Turner.

The many times stated message coming from Drake is that the efforts of the folks he is working with have a clear intent to stay away from leaders and/or groups of people emerging as the next governmental force.

The impression I get is the primary goal with Drake and many he is working with is to give Americans a chance to live free in a land that was promised in the original Constitution and that his efforts as well as the folks he is working with are meant solely to place us in that position.



And I happen to be one willing enough to take the time to show the truth, to make clarifications about "Drake's" so-called updated material. Most of it has been stolen from Tim Turner.


With the TT movement, I get the heebie geebies and with Drake's efforts, I get a good feeling. Thus my intuition suggests I trust Drake and Wilcock and Ben Fulford more than I trust RuSA.

I also get a bad feeling when "freedom" is professionally packaged and sold. I spend zero for Drake's information. I spend zero for Wilcock's information. I pay $8 a month for Fulford's information (he cannot accept donations due to Japanese regulations).

Then last night (2012/04/15) I listened to the freedomreigns web show and heard enough pretty spooky information backed up by so much likely verifiable fact regarding TT et al from someone Drake clearly trusts and respects that I am further convinced as to who I trust.


I have listened to most of what Teri Hinkle has had to say, from the point where she talked about Tim's Homeland Security credentials. Will have to go back later and listen to the first part of it. One thing for sure is that there are going to be embellishments about what is actually happening on both sides of this aisle.

But it cannot be denied that many people that have been part of early RAP & RusA got frustrated because of the lack of communication that was going on. Emotions throughout the different assemblies in the various States were running high. Florida, Oregon, Texas, Wisconsin & perhaps Minnesota were in particular having problems with egos being stepped on, and who was positioning themselves to be in control. My personal reason for backing away was because I felt that the Restore America Plan/RuSA was being used too much as a platform to promote the fundamentalist Christian 'Born Again' movement ideology.

What you say about Tim is what I am feeling with this guy "Drake". The biggest thing for me is that Tim has always appeared to me to speak with words that seemed to resonate from his heart. And he has always been quite out in front with his past history of working (on the county level) with FEMA, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKjQriec7JE#t=445s

"Drake", on the other hand, will not come out and directly say that he worked for NSA. Where else would he get high level security clearances, as he has said in that Wilcock interview, for being involved with the nuclear defense of the United States?

It may be true that Turner may still have FEMA credentials from those days, after all it was a county level position. Perhaps he held onto the FEMA ID as a souvenir/keepsake item. I suspect Tim will come back on with an response to all these allegations at some point.

And, because people are waking up, I can't but get the feeling that the de facto USG is gearing up for a big showdown with those involved in re-inhabiting the Republic form of government. This is what SPLC & ADL have been moving towards http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1896272, and there was that 60 minute 'hit' piece that was done last year in attempting to connect certain violent incidents with the sovereignty movement. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKFX5S4S-sE&feature=related

The question arises: Is "Drake", a former NSA agent, part of a de facto USG project of going after those in the Sovereignty Movement? (Perhaps, he still works for that de facto government agency?) As it was said before, the Global Power Elite NWO have continuously maintained their grip and control over the masses by keeping them divided and at each others' throats. A job well done, Mr. "Drake". I am sure he will receive a good pat on the back by his superiors. "Drake" may not be aware that he may be simply being used as a tool by his Global Power Elite bosses whom he may be still working for.

The big disappointment came at the end of that recent Freedomizer Radio thing is that after making these allegations, both "Drake" Teri Hinkle have categorically refused to have a debate with Tim Turner. Instead, Teri plans on slinking back into the shadows, I suspect "Drake" will be doing the same. A job well done? We shall all see.

If you go through all those Tim Turner "America Can Be Free" seminar videos, you will see where "Drake" is getting his material from. Take a look and you will see where its coming from.

I'm not trying to promote Tim Turner, but I would certainly not be willing to be so easily swayed by some mystery man that doesn't use his real name, that has borrowed information, and has not in any way come out in front of a camera to show himself to anyone. Be gullible if you like, if that is what intuition means to you.

BYW, calling someone a 'Troll' is a derogatory name, the same goes for saying someone is 'childish', it is name calling in my book. Its a sign your feathers have been ruffled. Get over it & use to it.

Best... turiya -*-


But what does is matter who got what from whom? If this plan to restore the republic is something the american people want to go through with, then who cares where it came from? it's the message and the information that matter, yes? I don't get how we're not all in agreement about that. Also you are not addressing some of the concerns about TT that were brought up in the 4/15 show. What about the Rothschild connection? What about the suppression of information and prevention of communication within the orginization? What about the accusations of fraud and corruption? And i'm sure in response you'll want to bring up Terri's Bush connection. Well with TT it's all the accusations and damning evidence against him put together that make Terri's case so convincing. Where as TT seems to only be able to say " she was a Bush!"

[turiya]

But what does is matter who got what from whom? If this plan to restore the republic is something the american people want to go through with, then who cares where it came from? it's the message and the information that matter, yes? I don't get how we're not all in agreement about that. Also you are not addressing some of the concerns about TT that were brought up in the 4/15 show. What about the Rothschild connection? What about the suppression of information and prevention of communication within the orginization? What about the accusations of fraud and corruption? And i'm sure in response you'll want to bring up Terri's Bush connection. Well with TT it's all the accusations and damning evidence against him put together that make Terri's case so convincing. Where as TT seems to only be able to say " she was a Bush!"

You ask: What does it matter?

The allegations on that 4/15 radio show were pertaining to Tim Turner. I am not Tim Turner. Most of the
people attacking Tim Turner in this way were former RAP & RuSA members. Many have had egos stepped on.
Teri Hinkle is one of these people. Teri has become obsessed with the take down of Tim Turner.
Know this - Whatever side of the story that you are listening to, it will be embellished. Embellishments will occur on
both sides of this aisle.

In Teri Hinkle's case, she has done a good job in weaving a storyline. She laid out allegations and provided a story to line up
with the documents that she has posted. This storyline she does not want to be challenged. That is why she is heading for the hills.

Because, it appears that those that have made these allegations (Teri Hinkle & "Drake") have said they refuse to have a debate with
the man they are attacking. To me, this is nothing more than taking cheap shots, then running for cover. Teri Hinkle already has said
she will be moving back into the shadows. I suspect that mystery man & NSA agent, "Drake", will be doing the same. We all shall see.

I expect that Tim Turner will be coming out will some sort of statements in response to what has been alleged.

You want answers, then you will have to wait. But also know that you have been set up. Because when you get
answers, then you will say they are lies. Teri has painted her picture, and by the way you are writing you have swallowed it,
hook-line & sinker.

All is focused on Tim Turner being deceitful.
Now what about this mystery man "Drake"?

Tim has been well out in front of the camera when he was going around this country giving educational seminars.
The link I provided shows that he openly states that he worked for FEMA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKjQriec7JE#t=445s
Now, "Drake" on the other hand doesn't use his real name, doesn't openly state that he was an NSA agent (where else would he get
security clearances from while working for the nuclear defense of this nation?), there is no contact information, no phone, email address,
mailing address given, no images, no one knows what his face looks like. I find it simply amazing that people are so gullible and ready to
attack a man that has been quite accessible in the past.

Its all spin. Please try to check yourself from buying into it so easily. Be aware that people will be selling you their side of their story.
Yes, in a way, everything is propaganda to some degree or other.

You are absolutely correct. Perhaps a hundred years from now, history will view all these people as great heroes working together to
get this nation back on track. Like I've said before, you can be certain that the Founding Fathers of this nation did not have any easier time of it.

Best of luck in using discernment.
Cheers, turiya -*-

[Unified Serenity]

I know this doesn't mean anything specifically, but I did find it rather amusing. The name "drake" has not sat right with me since the interview, and now I know why. The name drake can be used to describe a dragon or similar draconic creatures. So, we have a "whistle blower" who offers no proof of who he really is using a name that can be applied to a reptile or dragon ... LOL. I do love the intrigue.

[DreamsInDigital]

Btw, people can get super high clearances without having any connection to NSA, and still be tied to Nuclear Defense, infact Nuclear defense has absolutely NO connection to NSA, so again another false and erroneous claim about Drake being connected to NSA, there is absolutely no proof.

[sdv]

Interesting bit of trivia - this is not the first time that the name Drake has been associated with a hoax:

The last secret of one of the greatest historical hoaxes in the history of the West has finally been revealed -- it was a joke pulled on an eminent UC Berkeley professor by members of E Clampus Vitus, which describes itself as either a historical drinking society or a drinking historical society.

It involves the mysterious "Plate of Brasse" supposedly left by Sir Francis Drake in Marin County 424 years ago when he claimed what he called New Albion for England. The plate was discovered near San Quentin prison in 1936 and hailed by Professor Herbert Bolton as "one of the world's long-lost treasures. " He called it authentic "beyond all reasonable doubt."

Bolton died in 1953, full of years and honors. The plate was accepted as genuine until 1977 when new tests showed it to be a forgery -- for one thing, the brass had been rolled in the 20th century, not the 16th. It was a huge embarrassment for the university and the historical community.

There was one last mystery: No one knew who was behind the hoax or why.

Now, four historians writing in the official magazine of the California Historical Society say they have figured it out -- the brass plate was a practical joke played on Bolton by several of his colleagues who were members of the Ancient and Honorable Order of E Clampus Vitus, an organization that mixed history with strong drink and jokes.

Bolton himself was a Clamper, with the title of Grand Royal Historian of the group's Yerba Buena chapter.

According to the article, which appears in the current issue of California History magazine, G. Ezra Dane -- a man who claimed his first name was "Gee- hosaphat" -- and four other Clampers knew that Bolton, a leading expert on Drake and his times, was convinced that a brass plate that Drake had fastened to a post near Point Reyes in 1579 was still to be found.

They decided to find it for him, obtained a brass plate in an Alameda ship chandlery, and covered it with authentic looking writing from the Elizabethan era.

They also daubed the back of the plate with the letters "ECV" in transparent fluorescent paint and dumped it at Point Reyes sometime in the early 1930s.

[Avocadess]

I feel that what Drake has done thus far has been a good thing -- especially getting out on the airwaves (and even to troops overseas) their true duties as American soldiers. And that "I was just following orders' is NOT a good defense.

It all sounds true to me. And let's say for argument's sake it is all smoke and mirrors. I cannot imagine why Drake would be arming people with the gumption to do what they know in their heart is RIGHT. To follow one's own conscience. To live by the Golden Rule.

No. I do not perceive smoke and mirrors here.

[turiya]

Btw, people can get super high clearances without having any connection to NSA, and still be tied to Nuclear Defense, infact Nuclear defense has absolutely NO connection to NSA, so again another false and erroneous claim about Drake being connected to NSA, there is absolutely no proof.

Ok, call him an NSA Asset. Whatever you want to call it, agent or asset, pretty much the same. When he's done his work, he will disappear from the scene. He was (and still may be) connected to the NSA. He states he was "involved in the nuclear defense of this nation", that can only be NSA.

Are you running cover for mystery man "Drake". Perhaps, you-yourself are an NSA asset/agent plant working the Project Avalon Forum? Are you a part of the de facto USG project to go after those involved with the Sovereignty Movement? http://curezone.com/upload/_C_Forums/Conspiracy/download.jpeg

Now, you can be certain that I'll be watching you more closely. :eek:

[Unified Serenity]

Thanks for the story. I do find it so amusing that people accept the info from "Drake" as authentic and it's all based on his word ... oh and DW vouching for him. I am amused because regardless of how much you may like someone, when they make extraordinary claims it is up to them to provide extraordinary proof to be valid and not just another story. We demand truth based on evidence we learn of various events be they 911, Waco, Oklahoma city, Aids epidemic, Gulf a Tonkin and any number of claims made designed to affect public opinion. Here, we have nothing but a story and some in fighting between two groups, and no proof.

Of course the very foundation of the story precluded the offering of proof for safety sake, but hey just sit back and wait... the arrests are coming. In the mean time, just remember all the other claims of "this is going to happen" and "That's going to happen" and all the times you have been told such tales and given dates by these same characters and where is the proof. Some lawsuit filed in court?

We learned in my first law class that anyone can file a suit. I can sue you today because I don't like the color of your eyes. You can sue me because I hurt your feelings. It doesn't mean you will win, but yeh, go ahead, file a suit and make public accusations. It doesn't make it valid, and even if a suit is valid it does not mean you will win. The elites control the courts, they control the major media, they control the money, the government and they do what they please. You think we will win in THEIR friggin court?

I know this really sucks. I know my views are not popular. I just wonder what would have happened if the internet had been around in 1776. Would Washington and Jefferson and the others have just sat behind a computer and talked and talked while new whistle blowers came up and promised that King George was going to be arrested or Aliens were going to stop the Red Coats from firing on defenseless people? We think we are so much more evolved and sophisticated and spiritual. Nothing happens in the real world unless people do it, and waiting for someone else to clean your house doesn't get it cleaned.

Sorry folks, but this is nothing but more smoke and mirrors. It sounds great, it is known as false hope.

[EnergyGardener]

Wow, talk about three wet blankets.:rain:

Yes, remaining patient for the US Marshals, military and local law enforcement officials to act in concert for our freedom is not easy, particularly when people are yelling "fraud," Drake stands for dragons, you are just sitting around waiting to be saved, etc. Many of us are doing something, but as important, not criticizing those that are.:nono:

Washington, Jefferson and the others were regional representatives and or soldiers, they were in the perfect position to lead the revolution. Such is the case now, with many good people in this country that have planned and are acting to arrest those that have sold us out. I look forward to learning of their names in due time, including Drake's identity.:yo:

And, as is customary in our 3D environment, we will tolerate those of you that enjoy trying to make good people look foolish.:agree:

[Unified Serenity]

Ok, so do you all have any sense of time in when this is not just talk? I mean, they could say this stuff for the next 20 years..... Oh wait, they already have been talking about this for 20 years! Yes, 20 years ago I heard this same stuff! Exact same stuff. The militia movement was very active, the papers were filed at the hague, we had military ready to support the American people who all make up the militia of their states. Then Oklahoma city happened and the years of talk vanished! Yes, vilified, tarred and feathered in the media and the American Patriot member of the militia was now a terrorist. The Patriot Act passed and anyone could be held without charges, right to an attorney for simply doing what the government deemed seditious and terrorism speech.

So, go ahead and dream and buy into this. I have heard it all before. The people get all riled up, a crisis happens and they all shut up. Just how long are you giving this "Mass Arrest" talk time to come to fruition before you realize it's all a story? It's not going to happen folks. Oh, there will be arrests all right, but not of the elites or their favorite political and business puppets. There will be chaos and riots, and the violence will ensure the massive crackdown on the people for our safety of course.

Yep, I am a wet blanket because I have been here, talked about it, hoped and believed and NOTHING. Just more smoke and mirrors. I just want to know when I can say, "I told you so?" Nah, it doesn't matter, because by then it will already be too painful and why rub salt into open wounds.

[EnergyGardener]

Ok, so do you all have any sense of time in when this is not just talk? I mean, they could say this stuff for the next 20 years..... Oh wait, they already have been talking about this for 20 years! Yes, 20 years ago I heard this same stuff! Exact same stuff. The militia movement was very active, the papers were filed at the hague, we had military ready to support the American people who all make up the militia of their states. Then Oklahoma city happened and the years of talk vanished! Yes, vilified, tarred and feathered in the media and the American Patriot member of the militia was now a terrorist. The Patriot Act passed and anyone could be held without charges, right to an attorney for simply doing what the government deemed seditious and terrorism speech.

So, go ahead and dream and buy into this. I have heard it all before. The people get all riled up, a crisis happens and they all shut up. Just how long are you giving this "Mass Arrest" talk time to come to fruition before you realize it's all a story? It's not going to happen folks. Oh, there will be arrests all right, but not of the elites or their favorite political and business puppets. There will be chaos and riots, and the violence will ensure the massive crackdown on the people for our safety of course.

Yep, I am a wet blanket because I have been here, talked about it, hoped and believed and NOTHING. Just more smoke and mirrors. I just want to know when I can say, "I told you so?" Nah, it doesn't matter, because by then it will already be too painful and why rub salt into open wounds.

US I love you; you know that.

For both of our sake I hope you are wrong and that I am right.

Drop me a PM and I will try to get you more information so that you too might become at least closer to becoming a believer.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

If Drake's story is true or not it is very important to prepare for an undefined period of no clean water, no food and social unrest. Three days without clean water or three weeks without food and many people will be leaving this place for another reality.

Who can we count on for help?:

1. First is ourselves to prepare for a big bump in the road. A golden age may be ahead, but we must get over the bump to participate. That means planning and preparation.
2. We probably can count on the ETs to disable nuclear weapons. There is evidence that this has been done. Hopefully they will do more.
3. The military, law enforcement and the courts are a big "MAYBE". Bottom line is whichever side is supported by the military wins.

Drake's story is a good one, but it should not in any way lull us into complacency.

[Mozart]

I pulled this from the Ben Fulford Cafe; it originated in Kettler's comment section.


"darylluke
2 days ago

John/Starfire,

I may have missed this.If I have my apologies.

Have you asked your extra-dimensional sources if this man going by alias DRAKE is telling the truth? He sounds sincere, and he gives some details, but seems vague about some specifics. Yet, he states the reason is security of those involved.So, I suppose that is understandable. Yet, NOBODY has any way to really verify ANY of his story. It seems we just have to trust him, which is the part that makes me suspicious!

Could it be that we are trusting, waiting with out hands under our butts while NOTHING is actually being done?

Almost sounding like just another CIA dis-empowerment operation!

I’d really like to believe, and getting your guys’ upstairs input would go a long way in that direction for me & many others.

Thank you! ;-)
~darylluke.
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Sunfirereplied:
2 days ago

It’s SUNfire, not StarFire ;) :p lol.

The ET/EDs support the Oath Keepers and Pentagon which are behind this all together, Drake just seems to be “the mouth piece” for this thing. Do you ever go on Project Avalon Forum? There is a lady on there (sn) she’s got direct contact with several of the people involved in this whole thing and and other sources. She’s confirmed he’s telling the truth. And, so far at least my ET/EDs are saying this ‘uprising’ is happening and things are about to get “very interesting”. Details are being kept back for security reasons, even we have been keeping our lips zipped about some details about this and other things, and so have our ET/EDs. It’s for security purposes, and other connected reasons, including protecting the plan and those connected to it.

How many of the interviews with Drake have you listened to? How many of the three most recent things connected to this that David Wilcock has put out have you read? Liens have been filed against 12 federal reserve banks, hundreds of political and ceo types have resigned, the papers have been filed with the Hauge. The Oath Keepers on their site have aligned with Drake.

Hope this helps, and nice to see you back btw,
Sunfire"


Plus David Wilcock has had over a dozen very strong dreams that told him, point-blank, to get involved with Drake and to work with him very closely -- so that means that David's own Dream Voice strongly supported Drake.

And before you start poking **** about David's Dream Voice -- he has faithfully recorded his dreams almost every single day for 14 years! How many of you can claim that?!

His own Dream Voice has come through with very accurate information over and over and over. In many of his emails to me, he's told me dream information that was not public, and in every single case, public events fully supported his dream data that he'd shared with me over the years.

Then there's the full vetting process that Drake had with David and his very trusted Pentagon insider confirming several dozen data points that were not public on the Internet.

So from several reliable sources -- Drake is telling the truth. Period.

[Unified Serenity]

I hope you're right too EG. My gut and discernment tell me that this is not going to happen. We are going to beg for a change, we will be given a change, and believe it or not, we will very peaceably go into a New World Government. There won't be any pitchfork bearing devil. As a matter of fact, he will be so charismatic it will be like the Beatles and Obama all rolled into one with the hysteria and swooning over this savior of mankind. I would love to be wrong, but so far my gut has been right about everyone of these people I have publicly declared a fraud. Hopefully, I am wrong EG.

[Cjay]

Coming from the perspective that there are good and bad people everywhere; so what if Drake got his security clearances while working for the NSA? (Apart from that being an unproven assumption). If the NSA has done many bad things, does it follow that every person who ever worked for the NSA is bad? NO.

[EnergyGardener]

I hope you're right too EG. My gut and discernment tell me that this is not going to happen. We are going to beg for a change, we will be given a change, and believe it or not, we will very peaceably go into a New World Government. There won't be any pitchfork bearing devil. As a matter of fact, he will be so charismatic it will be like the Beatles and Obama all rolled into one with the hysteria and swooning over this savior of mankind. I would love to be wrong, but so far my gut has been right about everyone of these people I have publicly declared a fraud. Hopefully, I am wrong EG.

I could do without Revelations playing out, but your are right about that, they are sure going to try. Alex Collier claims the same thing; but I believe we (humanity) have the will, vision and now, plan and support—to see that it doesn't. I am looking for your PM to me that you would like more information.

[karelia]

Not addressed to anyone in particular. I always find it's perfectly fine to have different opinions. What is not fine is just because your opinion is different, you insist that only yours is right. Whether you believe Drake or not, it makes absolutely no difference to me or anyone else. I chose to believe. Others chose to not believe. Either way is fine. That doesn't mean everyone has to yell louder with every opportunity they get to talk. In a month's time, we'll all know whether Drake did or did not speak the truth.

But in the meantime, this attitude of "It's either me or the highway" only speaks of a lower consciousness for the world to see.

[YvonneG]

Dragon actually has a very high place in Chinese Medicine. I find it amazing how opinions can keep us going. And for me a clarification, means that, not opinions of what people, including myself, believe. It seems that the disinformation and or "divide and conquer" continues alive and well on this thread.

Dragon is not an evil word. Dragon is very highly regarded in Chinese Medicine, which helps people. The serpent, in spite of all the beliefs, is a staff with two serpents.

[Avocadess]

I haven't seen this posted anywhere so thought I would. It's from freedomreigns.us -- the website Drake refers people to:

URGENT: ARRESTS IMMINENT

What to know

Bankers/Illuminati/Cabal/
Government have been
running the world and doing
bad things.

White hats including old
money, military, veterans,
federal marshals, and local
law officials are going to
arrest them.

Media may say it’s martial
law and try to spread
panic, but the actions are
lawful and benefit
humanity.

International travel will
be stopped for 3 days.
Some facilities wired to
explode will be off limits
for safety.


What to do

The goal is to transition
peacefully and safely.
There will likely be
disruptions in local travel,
food supply, water supply,
and electricity. Make sure
you have necessities for 72
hours and ideally 30 days.

Remain calm. Support the
troops and law officers
that are arresting
thousands of criminals
guilty of heinous crimes
against us all.

Research stories on the
internet to assure yourself
that the arresters are good
and the arrestees are bad.


What not to do

You are going to find out
that the cabal have done
terrible things to you, your
family, and humanity.
Don’t believe that every
one of them is as guilty as
the leaders. Some were
forced to act and were
threatened with torture.

Don’t panic.

Don’t turn on each other.

Don’t riot.

Don’t run into a bank and
start shooting people.

Please just try to be calm
and work together to meet
the needs of your community.

[DreamsInDigital]

Dragon actually has a very high place in Chinese Medicine. I find it amazing how opinions can keep us going. And for me a clarification, means that, not opinions of what people, including myself, believe. It seems that the disinformation and or "divide and conquer" continues alive and well on this thread.

Dragon is not an evil word. Dragon is very highly regarded in Chinese Medicine, which helps people. The serpent, in spite of all the beliefs, is a staff with two serpents.
Dragons are also considered among many of the Good ET/EDs and other spiritually oriented races here on the planet, to be Planetary Guardians. It was only in Christian Mythology that they were "demonized". Even in the old legends and lore of Medieval and Druid Celtics the Dragons were highly respected, castle protectors and believed to possess great wisdom, strength and magicks.

[EnergyGardener]

Dragon actually has a very high place in Chinese Medicine. I find it amazing how opinions can keep us going. And for me a clarification, means that, not opinions of what people, including myself, believe. It seems that the disinformation and or "divide and conquer" continues alive and well on this thread.

Dragon is not an evil word. Dragon is very highly regarded in Chinese Medicine, which helps people. The serpent, in spite of all the beliefs, is a staff with two serpents.
Dragons are also considered among many of the Good ET/EDs and other spiritually oriented races here on the planet, to be Planetary Guardians. It was only in Christian Mythology that they were "demonized". Even in the old legends and lore of Medieval and Druid Celtics the Dragons were highly respected, castle protectors and believed to possess great wisdom, strength and magicks.

DID, Can you elaborate upon the differences of the dragons and reptoids?

[Unified Serenity]

It all depends on whose legends you are listening to when it comes to dragons and serpents. For some they are good and others they are bad. In the West, they have traditionally been bad.

[DreamsInDigital]

It all depends on whose legends you are listening to when it comes to dragons and serpents. For some they are good and others they are bad. In the West, they have traditionally been bad.
Right, because most (if not all of the western ones) have been heavily influenced by Christian Mythology. It might already be 11am, but this is still to darn early for me to be having huge deep philosophical conversations with such brilliant intelligent minds. But, then I'm speaking from a purely historical context.

[crosby]

this is just a bit of other information that you all may want to know: please take a look at the mitchell coombes thread. there is a possibility that the mega-tsunami clock has been started. if this is true: i am thinking the timing couldn't be any more well timed. i am not sure of what is actually happening, but i wanted everyone to know that a major disaster could be heading toward california.

i watched a video earlier this morning that spoke of the nesara program trying to take control in the past, and, then disasters like 9/11 occurred. i do not know if there is something really disastrous coming, but we have been following the coombes thread for quite some time. he seems to be able to predict major tsunamis. this next one that he is predicting is supposed to hit the california coast. i am still looking for more information and i will update as it becomes available.
warmest regards, corson

[Ron Mauer Sr]

It all depends on whose legends you are listening to when it comes to dragons and serpents. For some they are good and others they are bad. In the West, they have traditionally been bad.

The serpents can be good or bad. Years ago I met two very large serpents in a dream, one brown and the other black. The love I felt from them was incredible. The love was so intense that for years, when I told the story, my eyes would flood with tears. My gut feeling is that some serpents have evolved deeply into love and light.

[mountain_jim]

this is just a bit of other information that you all may want to know: please take a look at the mitchell coombes thread. there is a possibility that the mega-tsunami clock has been started. if this is true: i am thinking the timing couldn't be any more well timed. i am not sure of what is actually happening, but i wanted everyone to know that a major disaster could be heading toward california.
...


For those wondering, that would be this thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?36083-Mitchell-Coombes-Does-he-really-have-access-to-insider-info

with an update about an apparent counter started on page 13 (I don't do Facebook so can't see that and the HAARP images referenced)

[crosby]

sorry i just didn't think to post a link....... thank you mountain_jim.
regards, corson

[Mozart]

there is a possibility that the mega-tsunami clock has been started.



Hi Corson,

I can tell you flat-out that any mega-tsunami will not happen anywhere on Earth from here to the end of 2012.

Yes, the Japanese tsunami was allowed to happen, but now that we are on the verge of huge, massive changes in the human events, there is no longer any need for these huge, nasty events to happen.

The Ra Material makes it very clear that by the end of 2012, such "inconveniences" of earth changes will cease to happen.

We are 7 months from the end of 2012, so we've already gone through the worst of the earth changes, so I seriously doubt that our 6-D "Management" will allow any more massive events as big as the Japanese tsunami.

No, no mega-event will happen to derail the mass arrests. I'm pretty sure of that.

And btw, that Japanese tsunami was NOT triggered by any "9.0" earthquake ... the quake there was only around 6.0, not 9.0. If there really was a 9.0 quake, the entire island of Japan would have been utterly leveled with the vast majority of buildings -- like most of the skyscrapers in Tokyo -- would have been utterly destroyed with most of them falling down and collapsing.

Most buildings in most cities that were closest to the epicenter of that quake would have been completely demolished. Yet, if you look at the numerous videos of the tsunami, you'd see just about ALL the buildings not only still standing, but unharmed by the quake.

9.0? BS! That tsunami was triggered by humans via nukes drilled down deep into the bed of the ocean right at an optimal spot with which to trigger massive quakes and tsunamis. 6-D Management allowed that quake.

But I seriously doubt that they'd allow anything else even close to that event to happen right now in the world -- not at a very sensitive time when we humans are just about to take care of our own problems with massive sweeping to be done by our Oath-Keeping men/women in their efforts to sweep the rats out.

[crosby]

Mozart, i hope you are right. just trying to do the neighborly thing by bringing it too everyone's attention. with the mass arrests being imminent, the timing of coombes' post on facebook seems strange to me. and although the 6-D management team may be doing their job keeping things under control, other people may not know or see this. i think it is good to keep a watchful eye on all areas. just trying to be helpful.
regards, corson

[DreamsInDigital]

I have to say I agree whole heartily with Mozart, and while others may disagree with me, I really think Mitch might have his best intentions at heart, he's doing nothing more than just scaring people. Its my opinion about him, but I'm sure others either will disagree or agree with me, and that's fine. It's okay. And, I appreciate Corson (who I think is absolutely freaking awesome in a lot of ways) being so considerate and thoughtful in bringing it up. But, right now. We need to focus on moving forward and not letting any kind of fearful mindset or fear generating information continue to hold us back. We must continue to plow forward and not let anything or anyone derail this train , well not like that's possible anyway.

[crosby]

i totally understand and agree that keeping fear out of the equation is the way to go..... however, it's not good to put the blinders on. if coombes turns out to be ridiculously wrong, all the better. i just feel that we need to be watchful at all times. anything could happen. and as history has shown, it just might. something about murphy's law keeps popping into my head.....lol..... i don't want have my head stuck in the sand when i need to be looking somewhere else.
regards, corson

[write4change]

It all depends on whose legends you are listening to when it comes to dragons and serpents. For some they are good and others they are bad. In the West, they have traditionally been bad.

The serpents can be good or bad. Years ago I met two very large serpents in a dream, one brown and the other black. The love I felt from them was incredible. The love was so intense that for yeas, when I told the story, my eyes would flood with tears. My gut feeling is that some serpents have evolved deeply into love and light.

You and Graham Hancock. I have tried to get there meditating on good serpants and just can't do it. My earliest nightmares were about snakes for no reason I can determine. They got so bad my parents got me a cat to sleep on the bed so the snakes could not crawl up at night. That did stop the nightmares but I always have a cat. LOL

[DreamsInDigital]

i totally understand and agree that keeping fear out of the equation is the way to go..... however, it's not good to put the blinders on. if coombes turns out to be ridiculously wrong, all the better. i just feel that we need to be watchful at all times. anything could happen. and as history has shown, it just might. something about murphy's law keeps popping into my head.....lol..... i don't want have my head stuck in the sand when i need to be looking somewhere else.
regards, corson
Even the ET/EDs experience Murphy's Law though some people think that the ET/EDs are immune to it and omnipotent gods, even though they're not. :) I agree, not wearing blinders. Is important, but also being aware of what really is out there, the forces involved in "this" now, on planet and off. Even in my own intuition, my own inner knowing. I am comfortable and confident (just of my own accord) in that there wont be ANY mass catastrophic events or end of the world type stuff, CABAL wont get their OWG, No the battle/war isn't over yet, no we don't need to sit back and do nothing, we need to stand strong and keep the pressure on and keep waking others up and being there to guide the ones that still haven't landed on their feet and are disoriented. Maybe another way of saying it, is to take in those things like what Mitch is saying, but not "dwell" on them or anything that carries the intent of fear, even if the intent of awareness comes with it. Fear is Self Limiting and only holds us back and slows down our ability to evolve and expand our consciousness.

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

But what does is matter who got what from whom? If this plan to restore the republic is something the american people want to go through with, then who cares where it came from? it's the message and the information that matter, yes? I don't get how we're not all in agreement about that. Also you are not addressing some of the concerns about TT that were brought up in the 4/15 show. What about the Rothschild connection? What about the suppression of information and prevention of communication within the orginization? What about the accusations of fraud and corruption? And i'm sure in response you'll want to bring up Terri's Bush connection. Well with TT it's all the accusations and damning evidence against him put together that make Terri's case so convincing. Where as TT seems to only be able to say " she was a Bush!"

You ask: What does it matter?

The allegations on that 4/15 radio show were pertaining to Tim Turner. I am not Tim Turner. Most of the
people attacking Tim Turner in this way were former RAP & RuSA members. Many have had egos stepped on.
Teri Hinkle is one of these people. Teri has become obsessed with the take down of Tim Turner.
Know this - Whatever side of the story that you are listening to, it will be embellished. Embellishments will occur on
both sides of this aisle.

Wow I started out trying to be nice but the way talk to people is just so condesending.

In Teri Hinkle's case, she has done a good job in weaving a storyline. She laid out allegations and provided a story to line up
with the documents that she has posted. This storyline she does not want to be challenged. That is why she is heading for the hills.

Because, it appears that those that have made these allegations (Teri Hinkle & "Drake") have said they refuse to have a debate with
the man they are attacking. To me, this is nothing more than taking cheap shots, then running for cover. Teri Hinkle already has said
she will be moving back into the shadows. I suspect that mystery man & NSA agent, "Drake", will be doing the same. We all shall see.

I expect that Tim Turner will be coming out will some sort of statements in response to what has been alleged.

You want answers, then you will have to wait. But also know that you have been set up. Because when you get
answers, then you will say they are lies. Teri has painted her picture, and by the way you are writing you have swallowed it,
hook-line & sinker.

All is focused on Tim Turner being deceitful.
Now what about this mystery man "Drake"?

Tim has been well out in front of the camera when he was going around this country giving educational seminars.
The link I provided shows that he openly states that he worked for FEMA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKjQriec7JE#t=445s
Now, "Drake" on the other hand doesn't use his real name, doesn't openly state that he was an NSA agent (where else would he get
security clearances from while working for the nuclear defense of this nation?), there is no contact information, no phone, email address,
mailing address given, no images, no one knows what his face looks like. I find it simply amazing that people are so gullible and ready to
attack a man that has been quite accessible in the past.

Its all spin. Please try to check yourself from buying into it so easily. Be aware that people will be selling you their side of their story.
Yes, in a way, everything is propaganda to some degree or other.

You are absolutely correct. Perhaps a hundred years from now, history will view all these people as great heroes working together to
get this nation back on track. Like I've said before, you can be certain that the Founding Fathers of this nation did not have any easier time of it.

Best of luck in using discernment.
Cheers, turiya -*-

Wow I started out trying to be nice but the way you talk to people is just so condescending. I haven't bought anything "hook line and sinker" i was just stating my opinion about which side has a more convincing argument. Keep voicing your opinion. Dissent should be encouraged if it has substance behind it. I just wish we could stop putting each other down. One side does it by accusing the other of being gullible. The other side does it by accusing the other of being a troll.

[KiwiElf]

Beware of Selective Perception. Like the learning process of spaced repetition I wrote about on Jackovesk's Subliminal Messaging post, - to summarise:



Like advertisements, messages work by spaced repetition and we all learn this way: An idea or message is seldom absorbed the first time it is presented. New learning and knowledge is not usually understood, accepted and internalised until you have been exposed to the message a minimum of six times.

(This can be a positive or negative thing depending on "what" message you are being exposed to, ie positive vs negative affirmations)
It works a bit like "mental osmosis" - something like this:

1st Exposure: "I reject that thought/concept/idea because it conflicts with my preconceived beliefs/thoughts/ideas!"

2nd Exposure: "Well I understand it, but I can't accept it"

3rd Exposure: "I agree with the thought/concept/idea but have reservations as to its use"

4th Exposure: "That thought/concept/idea mostly expresses the way I feel/believe about the subject"

5th Exposure: "I used that idea/thought/concept today. It's awesome!"

6th Exposure: "I gave that idea/thought/concept to someone today. In the true sense of the word, the idea now belongs to me!" (it is now internalised)

Some people refer to this as "brain washing", but it isn't. We all learn this way.

We ALL use selective perception in everything we do; ie We see what we want to see and block out anything that doesn't suit our preconceived present belief systems regardless of whether it's right or wrong.

There is no need to attack anyone if their beliefs or opinions & perspectives are different from our own. Simply take EVERYthing you see read or hear as just information. The minute you become angry with an opinion - right or wrong - then your'e buying into the "dark side". You're actually giving it energy.

You cannot fully appreciate "sour" until you have experienced "sweet". If you only expose yourself to ONE of these, that is all you "know".

If it's not for you, that's OK. You will find what you want elsewhere (and so will they) :).

[KiwiElf]

i totally understand and agree that keeping fear out of the equation is the way to go..... however, it's not good to put the blinders on. if coombes turns out to be ridiculously wrong, all the better. i just feel that we need to be watchful at all times. anything could happen. and as history has shown, it just might. something about murphy's law keeps popping into my head.....lol..... i don't want have my head stuck in the sand when i need to be looking somewhere else.
regards, corson

Wholeheartedly agree Corson. The old addage, "If it sounds too good to be true... (...then put the brakes on a bit) ;)"

[DreamsInDigital]

Just for clarification purposes because Truyia can't drop it and stop making the false claim (even though it's been pointed out to be a false baseless claim multiple times). Drake is NOT an NSA agent and never was one. NSA has nothing to do with having clearances to work in Nuclear Defense. As I pointed out the false claims being made are baseless and not based on facts or the truth.

Can we please just stick to the truth and facts and stop trying to sling mud at eachother? We need to unite and work together and learn to get along. Seriously.

[TargeT]

i totally understand and agree that keeping fear out of the equation is the way to go..... however, it's not good to put the blinders on. if coombes turns out to be ridiculously wrong, all the better. i just feel that we need to be watchful at all times. anything could happen. and as history has shown, it just might. something about murphy's law keeps popping into my head.....lol..... i don't want have my head stuck in the sand when i need to be looking somewhere else.
regards, corson

Wholeheartedly agree Corson. The old addage, "If it sounds too good to be true... (...then put the brakes on a bit) ;)"

so... this whole thing seems to fit that saying (for me), I don't suppose there is any corroborating "evidence" that any of this is really about to happen is there?

at first it seemed like the "mass resignation / arrest thread" ( http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41059-Massive-Bank-and-High-Profile-Resignations-Across-the-World ) could be a sign of this becomming real, but from what I'm reading this is not the action that is spoken of, especially with the closure of borders & shutting down flights, TV announcements etc that are suppose to coincide with the action(s).

[turiya]

Some More Dirt Found on Teri Hinkle

I Just received a private message from someone that use to work with Teri Hinkle...
This person says Teri Hinkle was an absolute horrid petty tyrant, and had lied considerably to
people that worked with her. Goes on to say "She's about 60 years old and a nastier old lady you'd never want to meet."

Took a lead and did a google search & found an article that had an article w/ comments related to Teri Hinkle.
Seems Teri Hinkle is not as squeaky clean as she would like others people to be, or others to believe her to be:

Seems she was part of a ponzi scheme/internet fraud that went south called Global Marketing Solutions
Note: In this forum Teri Hinkle goes by the username "gemqueen"
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43668-Drake-Q-A-2-hours...Must-Listen--&p=469516#post469516

and here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43668-Drake-Q-A-2-hours...Must-Listen--&p=469511#post469511

Think I will post some here as well. Starting with page 25. From: http://www.worldlawdirect.com/forum/internet-hyip-scams/45950-global-marketing-solutions-25.html
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Nov 27th, 2010, 04:57 AM #21
Re: Global Marketing Solutions
"How come gem queen [Teri Hinkle] has vanished from the fourm? Usually she was posting her nonsense theorys on stupid stuff that nobody cared about. A real nut job she is. Where did she go?"
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Old Dec 6th, 2010, 03:49 PM #36
Re: Global Marketing Solutions
"Dr Mara Greenway and Vee Fueroff are nothing but theives. Thats putting it nicely. They are both rotten people who should be locked up for life for stealing and liing to people. Terry Hinckle is in on this scam as well and should be put away for if nothing else insanity. She is a real nut job. They have all been reported by me. I hope like hell they get whats coming to them."
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Jan 17th, 2011, 06:44 PM #65
Re: Global Marketing Solutions

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Well the forum seems to be gone. So it looks like the two scammers from hell and their minions have finally pulled the plug. So to infoshah, closedcircle, fflonz and the rest of the clueless cheerleaders, I hope you delusional pollyannas will wake up now and get a grip. It's OVER. But not for the two ladies. I will be contacting the AGs in WV, FL and GA as well as other federal authorities to try to bring these women to justice.
"Go after gemqueen [Teri Hinkle] if you can. she was in on this and is guilty as well of theft."
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Old Feb 3rd, 2011, 02:14 AM #84
Re: Global Marketing Solutions

"Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
So the website has disappeared and they have officialy done a runner?
"Website has been gone for a long time. The forum is still up barely. It went down a few weeks ago and nobody was even notified as to why. 4 days later it popped back up. It was nothing but a diversion because payouts were promised again last month and they did not happen. They think they are fooling everybody, and they have some of the true idiots, but they are not fooling the masses. Mrs vee, Mara Greenway and Teri Hinckle will go down as some of the biggest thieves and liars ever.
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Old Apr 16th, 2011, 11:10 AM #250
Re: Global Marketing Solutions
"Forum is down and gone forever. Thanks for stealing from me Mara Greenway, Vee Fueroff, Steven Decatur, Terri Lynn Hinckle. May karma treat you twice as bad you life wreckers. "
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Old May 12th, 2011, 09:50 PM #293
Re: Global Marketing Solutions
"Oh PLUUEEEZE. You were neck deep in this ponzi Stephen and you knew what the rest of us didnt a long time ago. You were the forum bully remember? I sure as hell do. You have been recruiting new suckers into ponzies as long as I can remember. What was that group called with you, Randy Shriver, Shad Foss and some other pimp? The fab four or some other bs like that. Your just as guilty as Vee Feuroff, Mara Greenway, and Terri Hinckle. Give us a Fn break!"
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Cheers, -*-

[modwiz]

Well, I don't know about anyone else , but someone has earned their way onto my ignore list. Unfortunately, I will still see the droppings if others continue to engage and give this person life by paying any attention to it. I will take the small step that is available to me.

[Mozart]

i think it is good to keep a watchful eye on all areas. just trying to be helpful.
regards, corson



Beautiful Corson,

I hope that my post didn't make you feel like you had to defend yourself, as I was addressing the issue of any sort of mega earth changes, not you, the kind messenger alerting us to such a message.

Your bringing up that information about the mega-tsunami was, indeed, helpful, as I totally agree with you that we need to be watchful in all areas, no matter what.

Eternal vigilance in all areas.

~Mozart

[Hervé]

i totally understand and agree that keeping fear out of the equation is the way to go..... however, it's not good to put the blinders on. if coombes turns out to be ridiculously wrong, all the better. i just feel that we need to be watchful at all times. anything could happen. and as history has shown, it just might. something about murphy's law keeps popping into my head.....lol..... i don't want have my head stuck in the sand when i need to be looking somewhere else.
regards, corson

It might indeed be usefull to keep an eye on the Mitchell Coombes data and warnings... but for this more accurate reason:



[...]

Hi Bill, interesting that an "insider" could predict a time for an eruption...

Hence the caveat:



[...]
...

Both Stan Deyo and John Moore have vested interests in catastrophic speculations as they both sell preparedness plans and items and are consultants for hire on disaster prevention...

Me think it's time to revise the origins and perpetuation of these speculated "catastrophes."

That said, a few well placed "explosive charges" could very well make me, and other experts, wrong... and it wouldn't surprise too many people as it is now a highly anticipated outcome due to the drummed up propaganda.

... how, indeed, can an insider predict an eruption or an earthquake -- when no genuinely knowledgeable expert would dare to do so; "Ask the volcano" one wisely answered -- unless that eruption or earthquake were to be MANufactured?

[turiya]

Well, I don't know about anyone else , but someone has earned their way onto my ignore list. Unfortunately, I will still see the droppings if others continue to engage and give this person life by paying any attention to it. I will take the small step that is available to me.

Here's the Rest of the Dirt Found on Teri Hinkle

Sorry to ruffle your feathers, sport.

From: http://www.worldlawdirect.com/forum/internet-hyip-scams/45950-global-marketing-solutions-9.html
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Feb 18th, 2011, 05:21 AM #108
Re: Global Marketing Solutions
"I need vees phone number and all personal information right now. She is in trouble. give it to me please so I can pass is along. Does any body have her phone number>

What about that ***** Terry lynn Hinckle? I need all info on her as well as she is a rlip off queen. I need everything on her. Qem*****, karma is coming and I hate your guts. You are going to regret how you treated me you *****.
The W virginia Secruities Eschange wants this info. You lied to us and now you will pay for it and it will be long and drawn out. This is the tip of the ice berg. I filed with my AG and the SEC and told my friends. HeLl is coming. This is going to be so much fun. Pay back is a ***** you liears.
See you in court and jail. Cant wait. You ripped me off but your going to pay for it."
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Feb 18th, 2011, 05:33 AM #109
Re: Global Marketing Solutions
"Any victims from WV sspeak up. I will give you a way and a fourm to contact me. We are going to put these reptiles away for life. this is very important. Please dont be afraid. These *****es are now under the gun and they are scared and that is why the forum is down. Im pouring the coal to them.
Please dont be afraid. To CLosed Circle, David, Jambizz, Ken Russo, (I cant remember you all) Im pushing this as far as I can and will follow the rest of you into hell. I know now your are all ponzi operators. Im turning you all in.

Good luck to you and Vee and Mara and Terry Lynn need better Luck. They are in deep **** now.
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Feb 19th, 2011, 07:00 AM #112
Re: Global Marketing Solutions
"Terry HInckle has also been named. She is on the goverment watch list. **** is about to hit the fan and everybody is scambling. The pozii forum is off line because of this. The GMS ponzi is abou to be unraveled by the US goverment. Stay tuned all. This is going to be fun.

Vee,, and that ***** Gemqueen [Terry Hinkle] are now going to be under the feds investigation. Lets pour it on them now. They screwed us and now IM going to screw them. Tuff luck you bithces.
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Just laying out more clarifications.
Cheers -*-

[gripreaper]

Well, I don't know about anyone else , but someone has earned their way onto my ignore list. Unfortunately, I will still see the droppings if others continue to engage and give this person life by paying any attention to it. I will take the small step that is available to me.

I would suspect this individual wont be here long once the mods get wind of this.

[turiya]

Well, I don't know about anyone else , but someone has earned their way onto my ignore list. Unfortunately, I will still see the droppings if others continue to engage and give this person life by paying any attention to it. I will take the small step that is available to me.

I would suspect this individual wont be here long once the mods get wind of this.

I am only posting what is found on the internet concerning the topic this forum is about. Drake & Teri Hinkle are joined at the hip. Just because it doesn't go the way you would like it to go, doesn't mean I should be banned for it.
Its only good investigative research. All of what I am posting here are updates, clarifications and more...

It Looks like she may be under criminal investigation by the FBI for being a part of a ponzi scheme/internet fraud. If so, there may be a court case out there somewhere with her name on it.
Sorry if information about what others think about Teri Hinkle are disturbing for you. Its all verifiable at the link: http://www.worldlawdirect.com/forum/internet-hyip-scams/45950-global-marketing-solutions.html

Best regards, turiya -*-

[Endity]

I went through a few pages and couldn't find any words about teri hinkle on it. I think I went through 1-3 and 11. Is this supposed to be her website or something? Fairly lazy since the post you posted didn't say a thing I could see about her.

[JRS]

@modwiz--the ignore list is a wonderful thing!

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

Ok maybe this is too soon but... has anybody heard anything that might be, or be related to, the event that drake predicted would happen 2-3 days from 4/15/12?? I'm dying for info on this! If anybody has the scoop please share!

[Chester]

Prior to the below quotes (which I will address), I thought Turiya’s post #64 comments were clear and well stated without emotionally charged inserts. Turiya put forth many valid considerations that were presented in a non-inflammatory way. He/She had me thinking I might have a change of heart in regards to what may be Turiya’s motivations for his/her posts... until the end.

Before I dissect the end of Turiya's post #64 I have one comment - if Drake is former NSA, it would not matter to me – so is Jim Stone - http://jimstonefreelance.com/ In fact, if Drake was (or former CIA or former any other agency) perhaps his experience makes him even more qualified at what he is up to now. Just because someone has been a part of an alphabet agency does not make them a bad guy. In fact, just because someone may have been a bad guy in the past does not make them a bad guy today (thus could be the case for TT if he ever was a bad guy – I make no accusations there either way).

Now I must comment on the last part of Turiya’s post #64

“I'm not trying to promote Tim Turner, but I would certainly not be willing to be so easily swayed by some mystery man that doesn't use his real name, “

Drake has stated many times he is using his real name. I assume this is his first name but perhaps it is his last name or maybe even a middle name. In any case, I have no doubts that if the “bad guys” wanted to know who he was and where he was, it would be easy for them and he surely knows that himself. I suspect his desire to not be specific about his full name may simply be that he doesn’t want to risk being inundated by people via calls or e-mails who may be well meaning but actually interrupt his efforts when time is of the essence.

“that has borrowed information, and has not in any way come out in front of a camera to show himself to anyone. “

Borrowed information -
if I am involved in efforts to assist others and much of the information I have obtained and used in these effort is non-original, does that disqualify me from being able to assist others?

“Be gullible if you like, if that is what intuition means to you.”

Actually, I love the expression, “I am from Missouri” which is known as “The Show Me” state. In heart, I am from Missouri. I will believe things when I see it, so I would not state I am gullible, I would more accurately state that I appear to lean to believing in the efforts of Drake (and those who he is working with) as being honest and sincere. On the other hand I would lean to staying away from TT who seems to be setting himself up to be the next President if a new government comes forth amongst the other concerns I previously raised. I do not know either way if TT is clean or not, a really good guy or not, I just know the way I lean and I am honest that part of the reason I lean that way is based on my gut. By you stating that I am gullible implies that you know I have been fooled. Time will tell.

I could be wrong about both of them. But it is odd to me that TT would want to have a debate with a Drake (or anyone else who spends their time in these efforts). What’s the point? Aren’t the goals of both supposed to be the freedom of humanity? (At least starting here in the u S of A?) I would think TTs time would be better spent on continuing to work on these efforts and not spent debating someone who should actually be considered an ally. What would the debate be about? Who thought of what first? In fact, it raises my suspicion meter as to why a Turiya spends so much time on this forum attempting to make it into a TT/Drake dual… When TT is brought up to Drake, he spends about 8 seconds on the subject – doesn’t seem to be an issue with Drake – seems there are bigger fish to fry for Drake… another reason my trust meter is much higher with Drake.

“BYW, calling someone a 'Troll' is a derogatory name,”

Actually it is a specific term forum users are familiar with which has several meanings, one of which is “someone who appears to inflame the conversation.” I saw that as an accurate label based on my experience reading many of your posts, not a name that has no real meaning other than to be disparaging. If he called you a jerk, then I would agree he was calling you “a derogatory name.”

Hopefully I have addressed you post #64 accurately

Best Regards
justoneman

[aranuk]

I was thinking the same thing today also. I mentioned it in another post I made. I checked out Sabrina's thread the Bankers resignations but found nothing that could be defined as such.
Aij You are certainly on the ball. The young people like you will be on this Earth when we old critters have left. We will be doing our thing no doubt and you young ones will be in charge of this wonderful planet ok. Take control of yourselves and the planet. It is yours for the taking. I am so proud that you are voicing your opinion here. Long may it continue.


Stan

[Chester]

Ok, call him an NSA Asset. Whatever you want to call it, agent or asset, pretty much the same. When he's done his work, he will disappear from the scene. He was (and still may be) connected to the NSA. He states he was "involved in the nuclear defense of this nation", that can only be NSA.


http://www.nsa.gov/about/index.shtml

do some homework Turiya

[Franny]

Is Teri Hinkle that is with Drake the same person as Terry Hinkle / Terry Lynn / Terry Lynn Hinkle / Terry Hinckle that is mentioned on post 103? Several variations and spellings here. How many Terry/Teri Hinkles?Hinclkes are there in the US?

Just wondering.

[DreamsInDigital]

Ok maybe this is too soon but... has anybody heard anything that might be, or be related to, the event that drake predicted would happen 2-3 days from 4/15/12?? I'm dying for info on this! If anybody has the scoop please share!
There is some thought he might have been intimating about the liens placed on the dirty dozen federal banks.

[modwiz]

Prior to the below quotes (which I will address), I thought Turiya’s post #64 comments were clear and well stated without emotionally charged inserts. Turiya put forth many valid considerations that were presented in a non-inflammatory way. He/She had me thinking I might have a change of heart in regards to what may be Turiya’s motivations for his/her posts... until the end.

Before I dissect the end of Turiya's post #64 I have one comment - if Drake is former NSA, it would not matter to me – so is Jim Stone - http://jimstonefreelance.com/ In fact, if Drake was (or former CIA or former any other agency) perhaps his experience makes him even more qualified at what he is up to now. Just because someone has been a part of an alphabet agency does not make them a bad guy. In fact, just because someone may have been a bad guy in the past does not make them a bad guy today (thus could be the case for TT if he ever was a bad guy – I make no accusations there either way).

Now I must comment on the last part of Turiya’s post #64

“I'm not trying to promote Tim Turner, but I would certainly not be willing to be so easily swayed by some mystery man that doesn't use his real name, “

Drake has stated many times he is using his real name. I assume this is his first name but perhaps it is his last name or maybe even a middle name. In any case, I have no doubts that if the “bad guys” wanted to know who he was and where he was, it would be easy for them and he surely knows that himself. I suspect his desire to not be specific about his full name may simply be that he doesn’t want to risk being inundated by people via calls or e-mails who may be well meaning but actually interrupt his efforts when time is of the essence.

“that has borrowed information, and has not in any way come out in front of a camera to show himself to anyone. “

Borrowed information -
if I am involved in efforts to assist others and much of the information I have obtained and used in these effort is non-original, does that disqualify me from being able to assist others?

“Be gullible if you like, if that is what intuition means to you.”

Actually, I love the expression, “I am from Missouri” which is known as “The Show Me” state. In heart, I am from Missouri. I will believe things when I see it, so I would not state I am gullible, I would more accurately state that I appear to lean to believing in the efforts of Drake (and those who he is working with) as being honest and sincere. On the other hand I would lean to staying away from TT who seems to be setting himself up to be the next President if a new government comes forth amongst the other concerns I previously raised. I do not know either way if TT is clean or not, a really good guy or not, I just know the way I lean and I am honest that part of the reason I lean that way is based on my gut. By you stating that I am gullible implies that you know I have been fooled. Time will tell.

I could be wrong about both of them. But it is odd to me that TT would want to have a debate with a Drake (or anyone else who spends their time in these efforts). What’s the point? Aren’t the goals of both supposed to be the freedom of humanity? (At least starting here in the u S of A?) I would think TTs time would be better spent on continuing to work on these efforts and not spent debating someone who should actually be considered an ally. What would the debate be about? Who thought of what first? In fact, it raises my suspicion meter as to why a Turiya spends so much time on this forum attempting to make it into a TT/Drake dual… When TT is brought up to Drake, he spends about 8 seconds on the subject – doesn’t seem to be an issue with Drake – seems there are bigger fish to fry for Drake… another reason my trust meter is much higher with Drake.

“BYW, calling someone a 'Troll' is a derogatory name,”

Actually it is a specific term forum users are familiar with which has several meanings, one of which is “someone who appears to inflame the conversation.” I saw that as an accurate label based on my experience reading many of your posts, not a name that has no real meaning other than to be disparaging. If he called you a jerk, then I would agree he was calling you “a derogatory name.”

Hopefully I have addressed you post #64 accurately

Best Regards
justoneman

In my first post that mentioned the two of them in the same paragraph, I ended by making mention of an alliance. Only ego or separate agendas would preclude this. My take on TT is he will not share. I think V=Drake is aware of this and is making it about people and not peoples egos. Here's to hoping this is a good call.

I would still like to see every single person committed to freedom on the same team. Any victory could be made Pyrrhic, without cohesion and common purpose.

[aranuk]

DiD that happened before Drake mentioned that we would hear about something big in two or three days. Forgive me if I heard it wrong. As far as I'm concerend the three days are up. I haven't heard anything remotely similar.
I have said this before, if one of my customers said that they would pay me in two or three days time and they hadn't done it, I would be wondering about how truthful they were and whether to trust anything they said again. There again if they had said to me Stan I will pay you at the end of the month when I get paid, at least I knew where I stood, and usually I was paid.

Stan

[gripreaper]

There is some thought he might have been intimating about the liens placed on the dirty dozen federal banks.

What liens? I have not seen any Financing Statements, or Legal Liens, which require judiciary protocol be followed and judgment entered against the defendant before a lien can be filed.

There are no judicial case cause numbers on Pacer when you queye "Federal Reserve" or such, so the whole Federal Reserve Lien thing IS JUST HEARSAY at this point.

[DreamsInDigital]

DiD that happened before Drake mentioned that we would hear about something big in two or three days. Forgive me if I heard it wrong. As far as I'm concerend the three days are up. I haven't heard anything remotely similar.


Stan
Mmm, no clue my friend. That's why I said "some thought he might have been intimating" it was simply speculation :) I much like Drake have "bigger fish to fry" than sweating the details. It's coming, things are seriously about to get really interesting. Mind, I'm not just betting on horses out of Drake's stable, I've got my money on several more that have never even passed through his barn. They're all running in the same direction.

[DreamsInDigital]

@ Gripreaper:

The first notice of lien was posted on David Wilcock's site, I just haven't bothered to follow beyond that, because like I said, I don't sweat the details. And, Drake is not the only one I've got that's talking about this whole Oath Keeper/Pentagon Uprising. I know it's coming and I have a good solid foundation of what IS coming from multiple independent sources. That's more than enough for me, I have bigger fish to fry than worrying about details and specific dates. And, specially when we're at a point in the universe when "time" in and of it's self is extremely fluid.... I personally do not need a piece of paper to tell or confirm nothing for me. But, for those that do..that's fine. I personally just don't.

[gripreaper]

The first notice of lien was posted on David Wilcock's site,.

What David Wilcock posted on his site is not a Legal Lien. The imbedded text with cut and pasted signatures by Keenan and Scott ARE NOT LIENS

[DreamsInDigital]

I said "notice of lien" not "a lien"....

[Ron Mauer Sr]

I said "notice of lien" not "a lien"....

Can someone explain? What is a "notice of lien"?
What purpose does it serve?

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

I was thinking the same thing today also. I mentioned it in another post I made. I checked out Sabrina's thread the Bankers resignations but found nothing that could be defined as such.
Aij You are certainly on the ball. The young people like you will be on this Earth when we old critters have left. We will be doing our thing no doubt and you young ones will be in charge of this wonderful planet ok. Take control of yourselves and the planet. It is yours for the taking. I am so proud that you are voicing your opinion here. Long may it continue.


Stan

Thanks stan that means a lot. Elders like you and Modwiz humble me with your kindness and intelligence. Long may YOU both continue to help the younger generation find it's way. Your wisdom and guidance are greatly appreciated.

[Referee]

I have reviewd much of the material on this thread. I am hopefull. Drake seems to me to be talking from the heart IMO. David pressed him and he did not struggle. I believe his story. The more I think of this the more this sort of action makes sense to me. The US got it right in the past. I believe we will get it right again!

I am a bit surprised that they went public before the action. That is the only big red flag I am seeing in this Drake material. Why warn them if the good guys are comming it seems un military like???!!! :confused:

[aranuk]

In fact, at such an important level of such things as the liberation of nation from tyranny, I suspect that dis-information is a critical factor in decieving the enemy. So when Drake is informing the public on what is going to happen, most likely it is not meant to inform the public at all but to dis-inform the enemy. Most military Generals will make such manouvres instinctively as of their training. So if Drake tells us that within 30-45 days there will be things happening that cannot possibly be the truth. The enemy must surely think that it will start much sooner or much later. But a double bluff may mean that 30-45 days is the real time frame. Who knows? As Yvonne said that Drake addressed the troops a few times not to obey bad orders I can only trust Drake is who he says he is and that is on the side of the people.

Stan

[gripreaper]

I said "notice of lien" not "a lien"....

Ok, so it's a "Notice". Hey you guys, you owe me money. That's all a Notice does. It has no force and effect. Mixing an alleged Affidavit in with a notice and then putting interrogatories in the notice as well? Come on now, this is amateur hour when it comes to proper procedure.

Look, I want there to be an energetic force strong enough and unified enough to balance out the cabal just as much as anybody, but David Wilcock's heading is: MAJOR EVENT, Liens filed against ALL 12 Federal Reserve Banks?

The imbedded text with copy and pasted signatures? Come on. Totally misleading and not true.

[DreamsInDigital]

I just looked at that page again, and it states very clearly that document that was posted on the page with the Dirty Dozen Banks, says "Commercial Lien" so apparently? The copied text is directly from the actual lien documents, maybe this is why you don't recognize them? Are you maybe only familiar with non-commercial lien documents? Just curious. And, those would be digital signatures which are commonly used on digital documents. Are you simply questioning them because they are not photos of the documents, but digitally rendered versions of them?

[Chester]

Well, I don't know about anyone else , but someone has earned their way onto my ignore list. Unfortunately, I will still see the droppings if others continue to engage and give this person life by paying any attention to it. I will take the small step that is available to me.

Correct action I should have already taken as well, thanks for the lesson Modwiz, I will follow the advice.

[gripreaper]

Are you maybe only familiar with non-commercial lien documents? Just curious.

No, I'm familiar with "commercial" liens. All liens are commercial. All contracts are commerce. Do you know what a lien is and what a lien is supposed to look like?

What is non-commercial? I know of no distinction between commercial and non-commercial.

[DreamsInDigital]

Yes, I do. Do you see the part I updated with another question in that specific comment? :) I'm just trying to understand better where you are coming from since it says on the document on that page "Commercial Lien".

[gripreaper]

Yes, I do. Do you see the part I updated with another question in that specific comment? :) I'm just trying to understand better where you are coming from since it says on the document on that page "Commercial Lien".


OK, let me give you a little background. I'll start at the beginning of the Sovereign movement of the last 30 years, with the Montana Freemen. Larry Schweitzer just passed away after spending almost 25 years in prison. Do you know anything about the siege at the ranch in Montana? Anyway, it continued to evolve after that, and the most notable stories you might recognize would be the Branch Davidian's, who died by being burned to death, all 82 men, women and children. They were a sovereign group. Later, the likes of Alfred Adask, Ben Lowry, Roger Elvick, and others, etc. got this notion that a sovereign individual could file a commercial lien and "clog up" the process of paying debt, since there is no money and therefore debt cannot be paid.

The courts ruled on several cases that there must be a judicial judgment from a court of proper jurisdiction before a lien could be filed. I've looked at some of those cases, but they were in a file on my old hard drive from two years ago which crashed and I lost that file. Then you had the whole "redemption process" put together by Tim Turner in the 1990's, filing UCC 1's, Notices and Declarations to the Treasury, "accepting for value" birth certificates and bills and sending them to the IRS for "offset and closure", all based on the bankruptcy of 1933. There was a 1099OID process where people were claiming to be the "creditor" and declaring the banks the "debtor", and for years this was successful, with many offsetting hundreds of thousands. And then guess what happened? Right before the 3 year statute of limitations expiry, the IRS clamped down on the 1099OID process and a whole bunch of people went to jail and are still in jail.

And why do I mention all this? Because for decades now there have been reams of souls who have tried everything to extricate themselves from commerce and public debt instruments, to offset and close those debts as per the 1933 bankruptcy, have fought in the public courts to defend that sovereignty, and paid with their lives. The whole commercial lien thing went down really bad back in the 80's.

The law requires judicial court judgment before you can file a legal lien. ANYONE can send a notice administratively (See Administrative Procedures Act of 1946) but these notices have no force and effect in law.

[DreamsInDigital]

Right, I get all that. But, what is it specifically with the liens filed against the dirty dozen? It says on DW's page that it is a Commercial Lien, is it because it's a digitized document with digital signatures and not a photograph of the actual document? It to me looks like a very commonly formatted Commercial Lien , just in a digitized format.

I have a great depth of respect for you and where you are coming from and the information you are so kindly sharing. I just want to make sure I fully understand what you mean and why. I like having as much of the information as possible and making sure I completely understand something before I form any solid thoughts or opinions about it.

[YvonneG]

I have a friend who studied very carefully all this lien business. He is a retired CPA, also Legal Asst as well as has been working with common law remedies and more. He sent me this. I posted it on another thread but don't remember which one. Here is what he wrote me.

My Best Guess:

A. The Liens were dated April 11th. They allow for a 10 day response period. Most probable outcome is for the Fed Reserve to default as they have no defenses. That means as of Monday the 23rd look for the Federal Reserve to be seized.

B. Lien Process. I do not think that the liens went through a court system. Originally, there was a contract between the Fed Reserve and the various countries/funds that gave up their gold in exchange for Fed Bonds. Under old law (contract & maritime) a lien can be prepared and sent to the other party directly. The lien outlines the damages and the remedy being requested.

If the defendant fails to respond (defend themselves) in ten days, then the allegations stand and the lien can be foreclosed on by the county sheriff. If the defendant puts up a false defense, they are in more jeopardy than before and the players then become personally liable for the damages done by the corporation.

If the lien is foreclosed on then the Fed Reserve will be under new management, the Wall Street banks will collapse within two weeks, the cabal effectively will be cut off from all of their money - thus game over.

Don't forget that the Fed Reserve must remain open to process checks, interbank transfers and other routine banking. What will stop is the printing of money, fraud, money laundering etc. That is why I suggest the new management approach will occur.

The only defense to an undefended lien is bankruptcy filed by the Fed Reserve. However, this is not an option as bankruptcy would still open the curtain for all of the world to see the Federal Reserve as a giant fraud, so the game is still over.

All that is needed to serve the Fed the Lien foreclosure is a local sheriff backed up by one Army tank.

[Avocadess]

I'm hoping to hear some good news from Drake on the next show he will be on. Now that he and Deatra are moving to Wolf Spirit radio I don't know when their next show is? Anyone know?

[Chester]

I have reviewd much of the material on this thread. I am hopefull. Drake seems to me to be talking from the heart IMO. David pressed him and he did not struggle. I believe his story. The more I think of this the more this sort of action makes sense to me. The US got it right in the past. I believe we will get it right again!

I am a bit surprised that they went public before the action. That is the only big red flag I am seeing in this Drake material. Why warn them if the good guys are comming it seems un military like???!!! :confused:

On the contrary, it seems quite military like when you think about it. The military is packed with highly intelligent folks. Consider 75% of the military (current and retired) are together on this (and it is likely more like 85-90%). That may appear to be a large number of personnel but it really isn't. It would make sense to consider a pre-alert to the masses as to limit panic and how all that could go. Especially when folks like many of us are ready to help assist and educate as many as we can when this all goes down. A significantly smaller eruption from the public means those who are involved in the more difficult actions can focus strictly on those actions. Hitler lost in part because he fought his war on two fronts. This tactic reduces the need for dividing military resources. It also shows good faith on their part. Some may say, hey... this is all a setup. Well, haven't we already been set up for several millenia? So what is there to lose? Go with your gut - my gut bets on Drake and the rest. Now factor in the ET/ED card, and this all makes sense that this can actually be accomplished. I still need to see it to believe it, but I can understand the tactic of pre-alert and I am more prepared to assist if these events actually take place. Let's get it done, folks.

[gripreaper]

If Drake is sovereign, and stands outside of commerce, and is doing a commercial lien directly to the Federal Reserve on the private side without any judicial process, then he cannot go into any jurisdiction and adjudicate in a public venue, such as a court. You cannot mix private and public processes. All these crooks who are allegedly going to be "arrested" would need to have "charges" filed in an international court of proper jurisdiction, (The Hague?) and "warrants" issued which can be handed over to the military to execute on. If the existing jurisdiction's are all De Facto and part of the commercial realm, then how does one adjudicate on the private side, outside of commerce, and not in a public venue?

I know that there were Common Law courts and grand juries way back when, but these were still derivatives of and based on their earlier predecessors, such as Ecclesiastical Law, or early Roman Law. The whole "rule of law" paradigm over the last 5000 years has always been favored towards the few who controlled these laws, as far back as Rome.

Quite frankly, I don't know what Drake is proposing to adjudicate and get remedy. Maybe they will create their own courts, and appoint grand juries. I have seen such movements fail in the past. I was asked to sit on a jury of a Common Law court a couple years ago, and the opposing party never showed up. Those default judgments were unenforceable.

Maybe if the military will back such efforts we may see for the first time in history the creation of a venue with a grand jury which can adjudicate a true "De Jure" controversy. I'm just sayin, they better know what the hell they're doing and not walk back into commerce. I don't know how they can since the gold was exchanged for bonds issued by the Federal Reserve, which is the epitome of the de facto system and created the BAR associations, and all of its court permutations for the last 5000 years. If they try and drag this snake pit of vipers out of the public realm and FORCE them into a private venue, then they do so without both parties agreeing to adjudicate. In the public venue, both parties agree to the courts jurisdiction.

So, whatever they're doing does not follow any existing protocol which I am aware of. RAP and RuSA made all of the same claims. I guess we'll see, wont we?

[DreamsInDigital]

Drake isn't personally doing the lien though, it's Neil Keenan and Keith Scott that are. AFAIK, Drake's just like the "public mouth piece" of the Positive Military and Resistance Movement.

[gripreaper]

Drake isn't personally doing the lien though, it's Neil Keenan and Keith Scott that are.

Keenan and Scott's court case is in a de facto court in New York, which is a public venue, subject to the UCC (Uniform Commercial Code), USC (United States Code), CFR (Code of Federal Regulations), FRCP (Federal Rules of Civil Procedure), and the local rules. A living breathing human being cannot speak in a commercial court, as they are dead under Admiralty, lost at sea, and mute. Only corporate fictions adjudicate in public venues. A BAR (British Accredited Registry) attorney must represent the fictions in the de facto venue, or you can represent yourself, but self represented fictions are never heard.

You see the problem with the Keenan Scott lawsuit? Do you see the problem with mixing public and private processes? The "Notice" and "affidavit" of commercial lien is a PRIVATE non judicial process. Mixing processes is a huge trap.

[sygh]

David and Drake spoke of truths coming out, information about crimes so heinous the world will never allow anything like that to happen again. In other words, damning information. (9-11, the smoking gun. perhaps?) One can dream, can't they?

[DreamsInDigital]

Drake isn't personally doing the lien though, it's Neil Keenan and Keith Scott that are.

Keenan and Scott's court case is in a de facto court in New York, which is a public venue, subject to the UCC (Uniform Commercial Code), USC (United States Code), CFR (Code of Federal Regulations), FRCP (Federal Rules of Civil Procedure), and the local rules. A living breathing human being cannot speak in a commercial court, as they are dead under Admiralty, lost at sea, and mute. Only corporate fictions adjudicate in public venues. A BAR (British Accredited Registry) attorney must represent the fictions in the de facto venue, or you can represent yourself, but self represented fictions are never heard.

You see the problem with the Keenan Scott lawsuit? Do you see the problem with mixing public and private processes? The "Notice" and "affidavit" of commercial lien is a PRIVATE non judicial process. Mixing processes is a huge trap.
They're both US attorneys, but this thing...this whole thing is global, Drake , the us military and pentagon are just one part of it, and we're just seeing one PART a small part of the puzzle, we don't have the whole thing, so I think really at this point any of us making any kind of intimations or assumptions is self limiting. We need to not be so nit-picky and maybe just keep a more collective unified neutral but open minded stance on this whole thing. There is a lot we're missing with this whole thing....all of us. Any of us, Jumping to The Island Of Conclusions, with out being fully informed and knowing all of the facts ultimately gets us no where. We're analyzing bread crumbs in the grand scheme of things. In comparison to just how big this whole thing really is.

[gripreaper]

I do know about sovereignty, which Drake claims to have submitted documents to the Hague, rescinding his 14th amendment citizenship and all of his adhesion contracts, and stands as a Sovereign Immune Nation, outside of commerce and the commercial realm. This is a PRIVATE process, and does not have a debt based fiat monetary system, or any courts to adjudicate.

Operating in the public realm, as a 14th amendment citizen, with all of it's benefits and privileges of being an indentured slave on the master plantation of this earth, is where we all are. Keenan and Scott have made no indication that they have properly extricated themselves, although Drake has claimed that he is sovereign and that the military has recognized his sovereignty and will stand with him. Keenan and Scott are headed for major trouble if they mix public and private processes, and I'm concerned actually.

This distinction between public and private, sovereign or slave, is a very important distinction, which I want everyone to "Grok". I also want to make sure that everyone understands the danger of mixing both processes, or trying to straddle the fence and walk in both. I've been around this stuff long enough to know what's going on, and it is a huge rabbit hole that completely shreds everything you "think" you know, destroys every lie, which is paramount to everything we have ever been taught. This paradigm runs so deep, it is virtually imbedded in the very DNA of our cells, and to extract it is a huge process.

The transformation being proposed here is nothing short of miraculous and requires energies and vibratory awakenings which we have not seen in close to 26,000 years, for at least one complete precession of the Equinoxes, maybe more. The last time we stood here at this precipice, we had a nuclear annihilation, a deluge, and the planet Marduk (or Tiamat) exploded. We do have that memory and I do believe that we are strong enough and experienced enough this time around to not go down that same road again.

Although, a complete shift in consciousness is required, which means we need to embrace the interior technology of self realization, self determination and self responsibility, and ascend into our inner knowing of clairaudience, clairvoyance, and clairesentience, and shun and reject the silicon technological future being sold to us each day, with it's gadgetry and it's outside influence on our psyche and souls.

This is what brought Atlantis down, the manipulation of the great crystals. Those crystals are hidden until mankind is ready again to open up to the very crystalline nature of his soul, the rainbow bridge of the etheric body with the flesh and blood body of emotions, in unity, and the energetics of righteousness (the right use of energy). The ability to hold the fulness of spirit, the grand Sophia, the matrix, the divine source field, fully in a body, on this planet, is the greatest dream of any sentient beings in the entire cosmos.

We are the one's who agreed as Bodhisattva's to come here and partake in this dream, and the bleachers are full from many all around the cosmos who are watching to see if we can pull it off, if we complete the dream of a thousand eons, the love of all things held in a body, to share and to feel.

To feel, to feel, to feel. To Love, to love, to love...

[Avocadess]

At first I thought this was something I hadn't heard yet and is why posted this a minute ago; now updating to acknowledge this is NOT new to most people -- but posting it anyhow. I had listened to this show only one time and apparently missed some of the very beginning due to a distraction in my own life:

The summary given by Freedom Reigns Radio:

Insider Drake revealed on April 15, 2012, ‘There’s another round ready to fall. I’m not at liberty right at this point to tell you about it but in a couple of days you’ll see it happen, just like it did as I told you before it would happen with the central banking system and the second shot across the bow ought to sink the boat.’

‘There’s a variety of things that will be happening in the next 2-3 days. Everybody will be delighted with it. We will all witness those publicly to an extent. One of the things that is going to happen here shortly is the Fed, or Federal Reserve or central bank as you know it, is going to have such serious problems that they’re going to be required to accidentally leak some of the information as to what’s going on. Their first move will be an attempt at discrediting but the problem is that it’s all valid; it’s real and it is happening. Everybody grit your teeth (and) bear with it. It won’t take too long. We will get through this, from what I am seeing, nicely, cleanly and peacefully.’

Drake stated he will be addressing different countries in the upcoming days in regard to the freedom movement.

He also recommended putting together an immediate contact system in your respective local areas.


Here's a link: http://www.in5d.com/insider-drake-update-freedom-reigns-april-15-2012.html

Sunday was the day Terri did most of the talking -- about Tim Turner -- (and I actually missed the very, very beginning without realizing it). Maybe someone other than myself will find it beneficial to read.

[Chester]

I do know about sovereignty, which Drake claims to have submitted documents to the Hague, rescinding his 14th amendment citizenship and all of his adhesion contracts, and stands as a Sovereign Immune Nation, outside of commerce and the commercial realm. This is a PRIVATE process, and does not have a debt based fiat monetary system, or any courts to adjudicate.

Operating in the public realm, as a 14th amendment citizen, with all of it's benefits and privileges of being an indentured slave on the master plantation of this earth, is where we all are. Keenan and Scott have made no indication that they have properly extricated themselves, although Drake has claimed that he is sovereign and that the military has recognized his sovereignty and will stand with him. Keenan and Scott are headed for major trouble if they mix public and private processes, and I'm concerned actually.

This distinction between public and private, sovereign or slave, is a very important distinction, which I want everyone to "Grok". I also want to make sure that everyone understands the danger of mixing both processes, or trying to straddle the fence and walk in both. I've been around this stuff long enough to know what's going on, and it is a huge rabbit hole that completely shreds everything you "think" you know, destroys every lie, which is paramount to everything we have ever been taught. This paradigm runs so deep, it is virtually imbedded in the very DNA of our cells, and to extract it is a huge process.

The transformation being proposed here is nothing short of miraculous and requires energies and vibratory awakenings which we have not seen in close to 26,000 years, for at least one complete precession of the Equinoxes, maybe more. The last time we stood here at this precipice, we had a nuclear annihilation, a deluge, and the planet Marduk (or Tiamat) exploded. We do have that memory and I do believe that we are strong enough and experienced enough this time around to not go down that same road again.

Although, a complete shift in consciousness is required, which means we need to embrace the interior technology of self realization, self determination and self responsibility, and ascend into our inner knowing of clairaudience, clairvoyance, and clairesentience, and shun and reject the silicon technological future being sold to us each day, with it's gadgetry and it's outside influence on our psyche and souls.

This is what brought Atlantis down, the manipulation of the great crystals. Those crystals are hidden until mankind is ready again to open up to the very crystalline nature of his soul, the rainbow bridge of the etheric body with the flesh and blood body of emotions, in unity, and the energetics of righteousness (the right use of energy). The ability to hold the fulness of spirit, the grand Sophia, the matrix, the divine source field, fully in a body, on this planet, is the greatest dream of any sentient beings in the entire cosmos.

We are the one's who agreed as Bodhisattva's to come here and partake in this dream, and the bleachers are full from many all around the cosmos who are watching to see if we can pull it off, if we complete the dream of a thousand eons, the love of all things held in a body, to share and to feel.

To feel, to feel, to feel. To Love, to love, to love...

wow dude ... wow thanks

[gripreaper]

gripreaper: I get lost in all the legal jargon and talk, but from listening to Drake I don't remember him ever saying he PERSONALLY was sovereign. I'm only mentioning this because I hear you saying that he said he was.

He mentioned that Pennsylvania, and several other states have Noticed the Hague. I can't imagine him being involved in Sovereign Immunity of several states without himself being sovereign. That doesn't make sense to me. Anyone who has been around the patriot movement for even a few years knows about public and private, sovereign or slave. Drake doesn't sound like a slave to me.

[Avocadess]

gripreaper: The only reason he MIGHT not include himself as sovereign (in the temporary "legal" sense) might be if the brainiacs and lawyers in the Pentagon asked him to for tactical reasons?

But really, I'm out of my league talking about legal stuff. I do trust Drake, however.

[Endity]

I have attempted to reach people in my community for an immediate contact system. Although now it seems I am considered a lunatic for even mentioning it. Most I have tried to spread the word about have brushed me off. It seems in my community I will be the only one with an open mind.

[araucaria]

I have reviewd much of the material on this thread. I am hopefull. Drake seems to me to be talking from the heart IMO. David pressed him and he did not struggle. I believe his story. The more I think of this the more this sort of action makes sense to me. The US got it right in the past. I believe we will get it right again!

I am a bit surprised that they went public before the action. That is the only big red flag I am seeing in this Drake material. Why warn them if the good guys are comming it seems un military like???!!! :confused:

Referee on a football pitch: you have just awarded yet another goal to the away team. The game is not yet over but some of the home crowd will be leaving to avoid the rush. They may miss a consolation goal but the final result is beyond any doubt.

All this excitement about the year 2012 came from people who knew how long the game was supposed to last. :)

[twelve31]

Hey Folks,

First, much love and respect to you all. (even the aforementioned member on the ignore list ;)

Like all of you I have been absolutely giddy over the "DRAKE" and this whole situation. I tend to lurk here on Avalon mainly due to a busy work schedule, active personal life, and my preference for research over posting ;) I teach an online high school class on Engineering and Sustainable Energy that keeps my typing fingers more that busy.

Once school is out I hope to play a more active role in the forum. I suspect things will be heating up by then and it will surely be an even more interesting times. :fans:

Not to digress, but I can attest that the students in my classes are learning the *real truth*. So give us public school teachers a break. 99% of the teachers I know are in it to give back and are the epitome of "service to others". If you know of a great teacher, send them a short thank you note. It'll make their day :)


I also want to remind everyone that I'm surely one of many "awake and aware" silent partners that are doing our part to raise awareness, consciousness, and vibration everyday. All in the spirit of Avalon and a love for humanity.

Know that this information is slowly spreading and I believe that was the idea. A slow roll out (seems slow to us right!?!). Makes perfect sense to me. Momentum needs to build and it has been, hasn't it?

We've all had our hopes up for a long, long time. A lot has happened since I (fully) awoke. My hopes have been raised and then dashed and then raised and dashed again. We've all been there.

I'm not sure if Dreams in Digital remembers, but a few weeks ago I felt compelled to post when a thread on Alex Collier was in heated debate. After offering my insights and observations (in AC's defense) I stated that I needed to take a step back and re-calibrate my discernment meter. It really wasn't in conjunction with the thread but over a lot of different things.

Since that re-centering, my BS meter has been dead-nuts ;) and the synchronicities and epiphanies have been amazing. So much so, that I can say with conviction that the "DRAKE" is the real deal and that "Drake" is indeed his real first name.

I even know his surname but I am reluctant to make that public (even though it is public and on the net). Drake has expressed the desire for relative anonymity. I respect that completely and I for one do not want to jeopardize this operation in any way, shape, or form.

Before I share with you what I've dug up. I have to thank gripreaper for reminding me of an amazing soul I miss very much, Mr. Bill Hicks.


OK, let me give you a little background. I'll start at the beginning of the Sovereign movement of the last 30 years, with the Montana Freemen. Larry Schweitzer just passed away after spending almost 25 years in prison. Do you know anything about the siege at the ranch in Montana? Anyway, it continued to evolve after that, and the most notable stories you might recognize would be the Branch Davidian's, who died by being burned to death, all 82 men, women and children. They were a sovereign group. Later, the likes of Alfred Adask, Ben Lowry, Roger Elvick, and others, etc. got this notion that a sovereign individual could file a commercial lien and "clog up" the process of paying debt, since there is no money and therefore debt cannot be paid.

Waco is just one of a long list of reasons why "We the People" all need to (wake TF up) and take back our freedom and sovereignty.

ywDAUzkHybU

Since listening to the Drake interviews I have tried to listen for clues and hints in his information. One thing that stuck out was his mention of a return to government before the British colonies.

Here's what I found. It's been a real history lesson.

http://www.history.com/topics/colonial-government-and-politics

It's also apparent Drake has been following Benjamin Fulford. After a conversation with a friend of mine he did some digging and found this. I will copy->paste this since it includes what possibly could be Drakes email and again I want to respect his anonymity.


10/24/2011

Weekly Geopolitical News and Analysis20111024: Private “trading platforms” have been shut down in preparation for new financial system
The highly secretive “trading platforms” used by the self-appointed rulers of the world have been shut down in preparation for the revamping of the global financial system, according to sources in the CIA and in Japanese military intelligence. This shut down took place earlier than the previously announced date of November 11, 2011 (11/11/11) in order to prevent any possible sabotage by the beneficiaries of the old system, the sources say. According to them, over 100 countries have now subscribed to the new system. Mass arrests of people linked to the old system are supposed to begin by November 15, they say.

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Moderator, please forward to; Mr. Fulford ONLY (if you can) DO NOT POST
Benjamin,
A group of us has started the process of reclamation of our country.
So far we have some 22 states in various stages, paperwork, etc.
To be blunt, the intent is to use our position to implement a time limited Commander in Chief and military/financial emergency.
After cleaning house, free and honest elections (paper ballots) are to be held.
One of our group is negotiating 'things' as you read this.
Due to the limited number of people initiating this, we need the assistance of anyone wanting to really be free. The more the merrier...
We are instituting a New Government based on the Generic Constitution up to and including the original 13th Amendment.
Contact : queen********@gmail.com
Express that I sent you, your first name, and state.
Drake *********@yahoo.com

Posted by: D | 11/30/2011 at 05:27

Then there's this from 9 months ago. See if you can find Drakes "style" in one of the comments. A possible pseudonym perhaps?

http://www.sovereignman.com/expat/is-it-fixable/

Finally, here's where I found some posts by a Drake on a freedom/patriots forum along with a surname that just fits the "DRAKE" to a tee :) again pay attention to the writing style. (Once again a copy->paste out of respect)


Reply by Drake ******* on November 18, 2010 at 10:50am
Wonderful...at best another distraction.
We made, pay, and supply ALL these people...!
This is all about the age old design of a pipeline through the area to the gulf, etc.
Name of the game is OIL!
Even this is a false flag crock of BS.
There are different generation sciences that have been around for hundreds of years.
So who are 'they' kidding?
Anyone who will listen and follows main stream media.
You know, the righteious spin doctors, putting out approved propaganda...
No play by rules? Then I don't either...you blow them away and don't even break stride, just keep on keepin on!
BUT!
Who do ya shoot?
Maybe getting rid of all the organizations who started the mess?
A mass change in Washingon?
Then too, we seem to have an immanent collapse coming, we could just wait.
Judge not lest ye also be so judged...hmmm?
The only people after us are our own!
We have seen the enemy, and he are us...
And away we go again...
Where to?


Reply by Drake ******* on November 9, 2010 at 11:39am
Anyone who states and has stated that the government needs a major overhaul AND has tried.
Several years of service and acting responsibly to We The People.
I feel comfortable with several names.
Constitutionally oriented, and then some...
Legislating constitutional controls on the fed and its extremely multiple agencies, etc.
Repayment to the Social Security account, getting rid of the hidden welfare (medicaid), and denying illegals any assistance other than making them legal...
Tie food stamps into the unemployment limits.
Put our military on the border, got lots of them overseas, and support our troops by bringing them home-as promissed!
Go to a flat tax of 10% and get rid of the IRS. 10% corporate and personal, limit total tax to a max of 20% combined, state, local, and sales...NO inventory tax.
Repeal the estate death tax, as taxes have already been paid on it all, excluding earnings.
Lotsa dyn-o-mite things can cause our economy to explode!!!
Daydreams are so cool...
END THE FED!!!
Put most participants in prison, bailouts, government motors, et all...
ALL of wall street, big banks, need to be booked! It is called fraud, treason, etc.
Goldman Sachs...unbelievable!

I hope this helps to get this thread back on track and solidifies some credibility to good 'ole Drake. I can't attest that he's not being fed BS but "something" tells me he'd be wise to it.

I'll post some more Drake-isms I dug up tomorrow. This should keep you folks busy for a while :)

Drake said to "do your own research"... So I did! :D

-twelve31

[crosby]

I said "notice of lien" not "a lien"....

Can someone explain? What is a "notice of lien"?
What purpose does it serve?


the definition of "lien": The right to hold another's property while pressing a claim against said other. I believe in order to have a lien, one must file a claim for damages in a proper court or magistrate, the claim is called a "complaint." say for instance, somebody damages your property, you file a claim against said person in your local court, or magistrate, the judge or magistrate finds in your favor and then issues a lien against said party for damages incurred.

this is how it usually works. on an everyday, usual occurrence.
regards, corson

[Mozart]

I can attest to Gripreaper's information as being very correct. His understanding of the different systems of Law/legal systems is very clear and very much spot-on. I'm grateful for his clarity of the differences of the two systems of governance and for his sharing it here in our forum.


Dreams In Digital is also being correct that we need to think outside the box and that these events are game-changers, and they really are, even though we cannot clearly yet see exactly how they are game-changers.


Remember that the color-of-law system = "legal".

And that the Substantive system of Sovereign People = Law.


Those terms don't mix. Those two systems also don't mix.


But here's the key thing to the whole damn ball of confusing wax:


The color-of-law system -- the "legal" system -- as long been masquerading as a Substantive system, as a Lawful representation of We the People, when, in fact and in reality, the color-of-law system is a mere imitation, a copy, an inferior derivative of the Substantive Laws of the We the People.


So every single, damn color-of-law process that calls itself "We the People" is perpetuating a massive lie and a massive act of fraud upon the once-existing People by converting them into mere legal-fiction, corporate persons via implied and hidden contracts, as well as signed contracts signed with critical, material information being withheld that would vitiate any and all such contracts, both hidden and overt.


Once the FORCE is applied against the color-of-law, commercial system that exists in America, the color-of-law system will surely be exposed, so any court case that would be heard would surely not be in any color-of-law court anywhere in the US, as ALL OFF THEM are operating as commercial entities, as Gripreaper keeps on pointing out.


But -- and it's a BIG BUT -- ALL of the commercial courts have been masquerading as venues of We the People.


This is the Achilles Heel of the entire color-of-law system.


The US dollar has been masquerading as the lawful money of the People.


ALL states, counties and cities have been masquerading as Lawful entities when they ALL are commercial, corporate entities operating under the UCC Code.


So, somehow, after the mass arrests are effected, we will have the information out there about the two systems of Law and of legal processes, so, hopefully, we can have key court cases that would be presided over by people learned of law, but not members of the BAR.


Substantive Law trumps color of law -- always.


Any agreements, contracts, etc, acted under false pretenses is always vitiated by the fraud that was committed by any party, once the fraud is exposed.


So all the states in the US and their respective court systems will be exposed as the frauds that they are.


The monetary system -- the Fed and their damn Fed Res Notes -- will be exposed as the fraud that it is.


The US Constitution -- the corporate Constitution -- will be exposed for the fraud that it is.


And so on.


Fraud vitiates any and all contracts once the fraud is exposed.


The FORCE applied by our military, the US Marshals and the Oath-Keeping Sheriffs of the respective counties will stop the bull**** commercial systems of governance in the US dead cold.


Even though in the current, false system of governance has the Sheriffs, the US Marshals and the military/militia acting under the umbrella of the current, color-of-law system -- in actuality, the offices of the US Marshals, the county Sheriffs, etc, predate the color-of-law system by having prior Lawful status as the enforcement arms that are supposed to express the will of the People via FORCE.


So that means that the actions of the US Marshals, Sheriffs, etc, will be acting under Substantive Law to stop the massive, massive fraud of the color-of-law system that has long dared to call itself "The People".


How dare they do that! How dare they call themselves "The People" when they really are not!


So once each of you wake up and realize the falsity of your corporate personhood that you have embraced and have reclaimed your status as sovereign People in the collective We the People, don't you dare fall asleep again!

[Alie]

I have attempted to reach people in my community for an immediate contact system. Although now it seems I am considered a lunatic for even mentioning it. Most I have tried to spread the word about have brushed me off. It seems in my community I will be the only one with an open mind.

remember the monkey effect. and here's my mantra ... "I Can, and I Will".

[Alie]

Hello Twelve31
I would like to thank you for your analysis. Also I would like to mention something interesting about the way you went about your analysis so folks can understand it's significance.

I work with the public in the home furnishings industry (to date about 60,000 face to face contacts). When I come across an engineer, cpa or analytical person, they approach "the buying process" TOTALLY different than everyone else. They look at EVERY detail, ask painfully detailed questions and WILL NOT COMMIT until they are thoroughly convinced they are solving their problem with their purchase.

So thank you to EVERYONE who is digesting this information with an analytical bias. It's helping me out.


Hey Folks,

First, much love and respect to you all. (even the aforementioned member on the ignore list ;)

Like all of you I have been absolutely giddy over the "DRAKE" and this whole situation. I tend to lurk here on Avalon mainly due to a busy work schedule, active personal life, and my preference for research over posting ;) I teach an online high school class on Engineering and Sustainable Energy that keeps my typing fingers more that busy.

Once school is out I hope to play a more active role in the forum. I suspect things will be heating up by then and it will surely be an even more interesting times. :fans:

Not to digress, but I can attest that the students in my classes are learning the *real truth*. So give us public school teachers a break. 99% of the teachers I know are in it to give back and are the epitome of "service to others". If you know of a great teacher, send them a short thank you note. It'll make their day :)


I also want to remind everyone that I'm surely one of many "awake and aware" silent partners that are doing our part to raise awareness, consciousness, and vibration everyday. All in the spirit of Avalon and a love for humanity.

Know that this information is slowly spreading and I believe that was the idea. A slow roll out (seems slow to us right!?!). Makes perfect sense to me. Momentum needs to build and it has been, hasn't it?

We've all had our hopes up for a long, long time. A lot has happened since I (fully) awoke. My hopes have been raised and then dashed and then raised and dashed again. We've all been there.

I'm not sure if Dreams in Digital remembers, but a few weeks ago I felt compelled to post when a thread on Alex Collier was in heated debate. After offering my insights and observations (in AC's defense) I stated that I needed to take a step back and re-calibrate my discernment meter. It really wasn't in conjunction with the thread but over a lot of different things.

Since that re-centering, my BS meter has been dead-nuts ;) and the synchronicities and epiphanies have been amazing. So much so, that I can say with conviction that the "DRAKE" is the real deal and that "Drake" is indeed his real first name.

I even know his surname but I am reluctant to make that public (even though it is public and on the net). Drake has expressed the desire for relative anonymity. I respect that completely and I for one do not want to jeopardize this operation in any way, shape, or form.

Before I share with you what I've dug up. I have to thank gripreaper for reminding me of an amazing soul I miss very much, Mr. Bill Hicks.


OK, let me give you a little background. I'll start at the beginning of the Sovereign movement of the last 30 years, with the Montana Freemen. Larry Schweitzer just passed away after spending almost 25 years in prison. Do you know anything about the siege at the ranch in Montana? Anyway, it continued to evolve after that, and the most notable stories you might recognize would be the Branch Davidian's, who died by being burned to death, all 82 men, women and children. They were a sovereign group. Later, the likes of Alfred Adask, Ben Lowry, Roger Elvick, and others, etc. got this notion that a sovereign individual could file a commercial lien and "clog up" the process of paying debt, since there is no money and therefore debt cannot be paid.

Waco is just one of a long list of reasons why "We the People" all need to (wake TF up) and take back our freedom and sovereignty.

ywDAUzkHybU

Since listening to the Drake interviews I have tried to listen for clues and hints in his information. One thing that stuck out was his mention of a return to government before the British colonies.

Here's what I found. It's been a real history lesson.

http://www.history.com/topics/colonial-government-and-politics

It's also apparent Drake has been following Benjamin Fulford. After a conversation with a friend of mine he did some digging and found this. I will copy->paste this since it includes what possibly could be Drakes email and again I want to respect his anonymity.


10/24/2011

Weekly Geopolitical News and Analysis20111024: Private “trading platforms” have been shut down in preparation for new financial system
The highly secretive “trading platforms” used by the self-appointed rulers of the world have been shut down in preparation for the revamping of the global financial system, according to sources in the CIA and in Japanese military intelligence. This shut down took place earlier than the previously announced date of November 11, 2011 (11/11/11) in order to prevent any possible sabotage by the beneficiaries of the old system, the sources say. According to them, over 100 countries have now subscribed to the new system. Mass arrests of people linked to the old system are supposed to begin by November 15, they say.

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Moderator, please forward to; Mr. Fulford ONLY (if you can) DO NOT POST
Benjamin,
A group of us has started the process of reclamation of our country.
So far we have some 22 states in various stages, paperwork, etc.
To be blunt, the intent is to use our position to implement a time limited Commander in Chief and military/financial emergency.
After cleaning house, free and honest elections (paper ballots) are to be held.
One of our group is negotiating 'things' as you read this.
Due to the limited number of people initiating this, we need the assistance of anyone wanting to really be free. The more the merrier...
We are instituting a New Government based on the Generic Constitution up to and including the original 13th Amendment.
Contact : queen********@gmail.com
Express that I sent you, your first name, and state.
Drake *********@yahoo.com

Posted by: D | 11/30/2011 at 05:27

Then there's this from 9 months ago. See if you can find Drakes "style" in one of the comments. A possible pseudonym perhaps?

http://www.sovereignman.com/expat/is-it-fixable/

Finally, here's where I found some posts by a Drake on a freedom/patriots forum along with a surname that just fits the "DRAKE" to a tee :) again pay attention to the writing style. (Once again a copy->paste out of respect)


Reply by Drake ******* on November 18, 2010 at 10:50am
Wonderful...at best another distraction.
We made, pay, and supply ALL these people...!
This is all about the age old design of a pipeline through the area to the gulf, etc.
Name of the game is OIL!
Even this is a false flag crock of BS.
There are different generation sciences that have been around for hundreds of years.
So who are 'they' kidding?
Anyone who will listen and follows main stream media.
You know, the righteious spin doctors, putting out approved propaganda...
No play by rules? Then I don't either...you blow them away and don't even break stride, just keep on keepin on!
BUT!
Who do ya shoot?
Maybe getting rid of all the organizations who started the mess?
A mass change in Washingon?
Then too, we seem to have an immanent collapse coming, we could just wait.
Judge not lest ye also be so judged...hmmm?
The only people after us are our own!
We have seen the enemy, and he are us...
And away we go again...
Where to?


Reply by Drake ******* on November 9, 2010 at 11:39am
Anyone who states and has stated that the government needs a major overhaul AND has tried.
Several years of service and acting responsibly to We The People.
I feel comfortable with several names.
Constitutionally oriented, and then some...
Legislating constitutional controls on the fed and its extremely multiple agencies, etc.
Repayment to the Social Security account, getting rid of the hidden welfare (medicaid), and denying illegals any assistance other than making them legal...
Tie food stamps into the unemployment limits.
Put our military on the border, got lots of them overseas, and support our troops by bringing them home-as promissed!
Go to a flat tax of 10% and get rid of the IRS. 10% corporate and personal, limit total tax to a max of 20% combined, state, local, and sales...NO inventory tax.
Repeal the estate death tax, as taxes have already been paid on it all, excluding earnings.
Lotsa dyn-o-mite things can cause our economy to explode!!!
Daydreams are so cool...
END THE FED!!!
Put most participants in prison, bailouts, government motors, et all...
ALL of wall street, big banks, need to be booked! It is called fraud, treason, etc.
Goldman Sachs...unbelievable!

I hope this helps to get this thread back on track and solidifies some credibility to good 'ole Drake. I can't attest that he's not being fed BS but "something" tells me he'd be wise to it.

I'll post some more Drake-isms I dug up tomorrow. This should keep you folks busy for a while :)

Drake said to "do your own research"... So I did! :D

-twelve31

[foreverfan]

Wait... I've found out who Drake really is...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItK1bTe9nBY

[araucaria]

Before anyone suggests otherwise, I think it is safe to say that this is not the Drake described in the Illuminatus Trilogy as a man so evil 'he wants to murder God and possess the cosmos'. :)

[YvonneG]

I can attest to Gripreaper's information as being very correct. His understanding of the different systems of Law/legal systems is very clear and very much spot-on. I'm grateful for his clarity of the differences of the two systems of governance and for his sharing it here in our forum.


Dreams In Digital is also being correct that we need to think outside the box and that these events are game-changers, and they really are, even though we cannot clearly yet see exactly how they are game-changers.


Remember that the color-of-law system = "legal".

And that the Substantive system of Sovereign People = Law.


Those terms don't mix. Those two systems also don't mix.


But here's the key thing to the whole damn ball of confusing wax:


The color-of-law system -- the "legal" system -- as long been masquerading as a Substantive system, as a Lawful representation of We the People, when, in fact and in reality, the color-of-law system is a mere imitation, a copy, an inferior derivative of the Substantive Laws of the We the People.


So every single, damn color-of-law process that calls itself "We the People" is perpetuating a massive lie and a massive act of fraud upon the once-existing People by converting them into mere legal-fiction, corporate persons via implied and hidden contracts, as well as signed contracts signed with critical, material information being withheld that would vitiate any and all such contracts, both hidden and overt.


Once the FORCE is applied against the color-of-law, commercial system that exists in America, the color-of-law system will surely be exposed, so any court case that would be heard would surely not be in any color-of-law court anywhere in the US, as ALL OFF THEM are operating as commercial entities, as Gripreaper keeps on pointing out.


But -- and it's a BIG BUT -- ALL of the commercial courts have been masquerading as venues of We the People.


This is the Achilles Heel of the entire color-of-law system.


The US dollar has been masquerading as the lawful money of the People.


ALL states, counties and cities have been masquerading as Lawful entities when they ALL are commercial, corporate entities operating under the UCC Code.


So, somehow, after the mass arrests are effected, we will have the information out there about the two systems of Law and of legal processes, so, hopefully, we can have key court cases that would be presided over by people learned of law, but not members of the BAR.


Substantive Law trumps color of law -- always.


Any agreements, contracts, etc, acted under false pretenses is always vitiated by the fraud that was committed by any party, once the fraud is exposed.


So all the states in the US and their respective court systems will be exposed as the frauds that they are.


The monetary system -- the Fed and their damn Fed Res Notes -- will be exposed as the fraud that it is.


The US Constitution -- the corporate Constitution -- will be exposed for the fraud that it is.


And so on.


Fraud vitiates any and all contracts once the fraud is exposed.


The FORCE applied by our military, the US Marshals and the Oath-Keeping Sheriffs of the respective counties will stop the bull**** commercial systems of governance in the US dead cold.


Even though in the current, false system of governance has the Sheriffs, the US Marshals and the military/militia acting under the umbrella of the current, color-of-law system -- in actuality, the offices of the US Marshals, the county Sheriffs, etc, predate the color-of-law system by having prior Lawful status as the enforcement arms that are supposed to express the will of the People via FORCE.


So that means that the actions of the US Marshals, Sheriffs, etc, will be acting under Substantive Law to stop the massive, massive fraud of the color-of-law system that has long dared to call itself "The People".


How dare they do that! How dare they call themselves "The People" when they really are not!


So once each of you wake up and realize the falsity of your corporate personhood that you have embraced and have reclaimed your status as sovereign People in the collective We the People, don't you dare fall asleep again!

Mozart, as always, you help clarify it for us.
Thank you!!

[YvonneG]

Hey Folks,

First, much love and respect to you all. (even the aforementioned member on the ignore list ;)

Like all of you I have been absolutely giddy over the "DRAKE" and this whole situation. I tend to lurk here on Avalon mainly due to a busy work schedule, active personal life, and my preference for research over posting ;) I teach an online high school class on Engineering and Sustainable Energy that keeps my typing fingers more that busy.

Once school is out I hope to play a more active role in the forum. I suspect things will be heating up by then and it will surely be an even more interesting times. :fans:

Not to digress, but I can attest that the students in my classes are learning the *real truth*. So give us public school teachers a break. 99% of the teachers I know are in it to give back and are the epitome of "service to others". If you know of a great teacher, send them a short thank you note. It'll make their day :)


I also want to remind everyone that I'm surely one of many "awake and aware" silent partners that are doing our part to raise awareness, consciousness, and vibration everyday. All in the spirit of Avalon and a love for humanity.

Know that this information is slowly spreading and I believe that was the idea. A slow roll out (seems slow to us right!?!). Makes perfect sense to me. Momentum needs to build and it has been, hasn't it?

We've all had our hopes up for a long, long time. A lot has happened since I (fully) awoke. My hopes have been raised and then dashed and then raised and dashed again. We've all been there.

I'm not sure if Dreams in Digital remembers, but a few weeks ago I felt compelled to post when a thread on Alex Collier was in heated debate. After offering my insights and observations (in AC's defense) I stated that I needed to take a step back and re-calibrate my discernment meter. It really wasn't in conjunction with the thread but over a lot of different things.

Since that re-centering, my BS meter has been dead-nuts ;) and the synchronicities and epiphanies have been amazing. So much so, that I can say with conviction that the "DRAKE" is the real deal and that "Drake" is indeed his real first name.

I even know his surname but I am reluctant to make that public (even though it is public and on the net). Drake has expressed the desire for relative anonymity. I respect that completely and I for one do not want to jeopardize this operation in any way, shape, or form.

Before I share with you what I've dug up. I have to thank gripreaper for reminding me of an amazing soul I miss very much, Mr. Bill Hicks.


OK, let me give you a little background. I'll start at the beginning of the Sovereign movement of the last 30 years, with the Montana Freemen. Larry Schweitzer just passed away after spending almost 25 years in prison. Do you know anything about the siege at the ranch in Montana? Anyway, it continued to evolve after that, and the most notable stories you might recognize would be the Branch Davidian's, who died by being burned to death, all 82 men, women and children. They were a sovereign group. Later, the likes of Alfred Adask, Ben Lowry, Roger Elvick, and others, etc. got this notion that a sovereign individual could file a commercial lien and "clog up" the process of paying debt, since there is no money and therefore debt cannot be paid.

Waco is just one of a long list of reasons why "We the People" all need to (wake TF up) and take back our freedom and sovereignty.

ywDAUzkHybU

Since listening to the Drake interviews I have tried to listen for clues and hints in his information. One thing that stuck out was his mention of a return to government before the British colonies.

Here's what I found. It's been a real history lesson.

http://www.history.com/topics/colonial-government-and-politics

It's also apparent Drake has been following Benjamin Fulford. After a conversation with a friend of mine he did some digging and found this. I will copy->paste this since it includes what possibly could be Drakes email and again I want to respect his anonymity.


10/24/2011

Weekly Geopolitical News and Analysis20111024: Private “trading platforms” have been shut down in preparation for new financial system
The highly secretive “trading platforms” used by the self-appointed rulers of the world have been shut down in preparation for the revamping of the global financial system, according to sources in the CIA and in Japanese military intelligence. This shut down took place earlier than the previously announced date of November 11, 2011 (11/11/11) in order to prevent any possible sabotage by the beneficiaries of the old system, the sources say. According to them, over 100 countries have now subscribed to the new system. Mass arrests of people linked to the old system are supposed to begin by November 15, they say.

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Moderator, please forward to; Mr. Fulford ONLY (if you can) DO NOT POST
Benjamin,
A group of us has started the process of reclamation of our country.
So far we have some 22 states in various stages, paperwork, etc.
To be blunt, the intent is to use our position to implement a time limited Commander in Chief and military/financial emergency.
After cleaning house, free and honest elections (paper ballots) are to be held.
One of our group is negotiating 'things' as you read this.
Due to the limited number of people initiating this, we need the assistance of anyone wanting to really be free. The more the merrier...
We are instituting a New Government based on the Generic Constitution up to and including the original 13th Amendment.
Contact : queen********@gmail.com
Express that I sent you, your first name, and state.
Drake *********@yahoo.com

Posted by: D | 11/30/2011 at 05:27

Then there's this from 9 months ago. See if you can find Drakes "style" in one of the comments. A possible pseudonym perhaps?

http://www.sovereignman.com/expat/is-it-fixable/

Finally, here's where I found some posts by a Drake on a freedom/patriots forum along with a surname that just fits the "DRAKE" to a tee :) again pay attention to the writing style. (Once again a copy->paste out of respect)


Reply by Drake ******* on November 18, 2010 at 10:50am
Wonderful...at best another distraction.
We made, pay, and supply ALL these people...!
This is all about the age old design of a pipeline through the area to the gulf, etc.
Name of the game is OIL!
Even this is a false flag crock of BS.
There are different generation sciences that have been around for hundreds of years.
So who are 'they' kidding?
Anyone who will listen and follows main stream media.
You know, the righteious spin doctors, putting out approved propaganda...
No play by rules? Then I don't either...you blow them away and don't even break stride, just keep on keepin on!
BUT!
Who do ya shoot?
Maybe getting rid of all the organizations who started the mess?
A mass change in Washingon?
Then too, we seem to have an immanent collapse coming, we could just wait.
Judge not lest ye also be so judged...hmmm?
The only people after us are our own!
We have seen the enemy, and he are us...
And away we go again...
Where to?


Reply by Drake ******* on November 9, 2010 at 11:39am
Anyone who states and has stated that the government needs a major overhaul AND has tried.
Several years of service and acting responsibly to We The People.
I feel comfortable with several names.
Constitutionally oriented, and then some...
Legislating constitutional controls on the fed and its extremely multiple agencies, etc.
Repayment to the Social Security account, getting rid of the hidden welfare (medicaid), and denying illegals any assistance other than making them legal...
Tie food stamps into the unemployment limits.
Put our military on the border, got lots of them overseas, and support our troops by bringing them home-as promissed!
Go to a flat tax of 10% and get rid of the IRS. 10% corporate and personal, limit total tax to a max of 20% combined, state, local, and sales...NO inventory tax.
Repeal the estate death tax, as taxes have already been paid on it all, excluding earnings.
Lotsa dyn-o-mite things can cause our economy to explode!!!
Daydreams are so cool...
END THE FED!!!
Put most participants in prison, bailouts, government motors, et all...
ALL of wall street, big banks, need to be booked! It is called fraud, treason, etc.
Goldman Sachs...unbelievable!

I hope this helps to get this thread back on track and solidifies some credibility to good 'ole Drake. I can't attest that he's not being fed BS but "something" tells me he'd be wise to it.

I'll post some more Drake-isms I dug up tomorrow. This should keep you folks busy for a while :)

Drake said to "do your own research"... So I did! :D

-twelve31

Very cool twelve31!

I don't put myself beyond the possibility of being decieved. But to add to this. Since I do know of several of the people involved as signers, and have also known who Teri is for a while and am not personally communicating with several of the freedom reigns team, as well as actually working with one of them, I have a certainty beyond what I read or hear, that Drake is for real.

[Jeffrey]

I'm just going to toss this one out there.


Posted by Drake

Rapture and ascension and many more things are expressed in The Bible. The Book also talks about evil and the father of it. Towards the end, evil is disposed of in the lake of fire.
Our planet is the last one that has this evil on it.
When the evil here is disposed of, there will be no more anywhere.
Note that the so called WW III has not happened. Notice that every time this is tried again, it fails...just don't work, never happens...
Whatever happened to Armageddon?
It was supposed to have been happening...and now the fuse can't be lit?
Everyone here sez Show Me...
OK...
The show is on very soon.
When that HAPPENS, I do hope you remember what you said...

Hmmm... interdasting. You can read more for yourself of clarifications he makes on this whole plan--here is his profile page on the site from which I pulled the quote: http://wramsite.com/profile/DrakeBailey?xg_source=profiles_memberList

Happy reading!

[Jeffrey]

Hey Folks,

First, much love and respect to you all. (even the aforementioned member on the ignore list ;)

Like all of you I have been absolutely giddy over the "DRAKE" and this whole situation. I tend to lurk here on Avalon mainly due to a busy work schedule, active personal life, and my preference for research over posting ;) I teach an online high school class on Engineering and Sustainable Energy that keeps my typing fingers more that busy.

Once school is out I hope to play a more active role in the forum. I suspect things will be heating up by then and it will surely be an even more interesting times. :fans:

Not to digress, but I can attest that the students in my classes are learning the *real truth*. So give us public school teachers a break. 99% of the teachers I know are in it to give back and are the epitome of "service to others". If you know of a great teacher, send them a short thank you note. It'll make their day :)


I also want to remind everyone that I'm surely one of many "awake and aware" silent partners that are doing our part to raise awareness, consciousness, and vibration everyday. All in the spirit of Avalon and a love for humanity.

Know that this information is slowly spreading and I believe that was the idea. A slow roll out (seems slow to us right!?!). Makes perfect sense to me. Momentum needs to build and it has been, hasn't it?

We've all had our hopes up for a long, long time. A lot has happened since I (fully) awoke. My hopes have been raised and then dashed and then raised and dashed again. We've all been there.

I'm not sure if Dreams in Digital remembers, but a few weeks ago I felt compelled to post when a thread on Alex Collier was in heated debate. After offering my insights and observations (in AC's defense) I stated that I needed to take a step back and re-calibrate my discernment meter. It really wasn't in conjunction with the thread but over a lot of different things.

Since that re-centering, my BS meter has been dead-nuts ;) and the synchronicities and epiphanies have been amazing. So much so, that I can say with conviction that the "DRAKE" is the real deal and that "Drake" is indeed his real first name.

I even know his surname but I am reluctant to make that public (even though it is public and on the net). Drake has expressed the desire for relative anonymity. I respect that completely and I for one do not want to jeopardize this operation in any way, shape, or form.

Before I share with you what I've dug up. I have to thank gripreaper for reminding me of an amazing soul I miss very much, Mr. Bill Hicks.


OK, let me give you a little background. I'll start at the beginning of the Sovereign movement of the last 30 years, with the Montana Freemen. Larry Schweitzer just passed away after spending almost 25 years in prison. Do you know anything about the siege at the ranch in Montana? Anyway, it continued to evolve after that, and the most notable stories you might recognize would be the Branch Davidian's, who died by being burned to death, all 82 men, women and children. They were a sovereign group. Later, the likes of Alfred Adask, Ben Lowry, Roger Elvick, and others, etc. got this notion that a sovereign individual could file a commercial lien and "clog up" the process of paying debt, since there is no money and therefore debt cannot be paid.

Waco is just one of a long list of reasons why "We the People" all need to (wake TF up) and take back our freedom and sovereignty.

ywDAUzkHybU

Since listening to the Drake interviews I have tried to listen for clues and hints in his information. One thing that stuck out was his mention of a return to government before the British colonies.

Here's what I found. It's been a real history lesson.

http://www.history.com/topics/colonial-government-and-politics

It's also apparent Drake has been following Benjamin Fulford. After a conversation with a friend of mine he did some digging and found this. I will copy->paste this since it includes what possibly could be Drakes email and again I want to respect his anonymity.


10/24/2011

Weekly Geopolitical News and Analysis20111024: Private “trading platforms” have been shut down in preparation for new financial system
The highly secretive “trading platforms” used by the self-appointed rulers of the world have been shut down in preparation for the revamping of the global financial system, according to sources in the CIA and in Japanese military intelligence. This shut down took place earlier than the previously announced date of November 11, 2011 (11/11/11) in order to prevent any possible sabotage by the beneficiaries of the old system, the sources say. According to them, over 100 countries have now subscribed to the new system. Mass arrests of people linked to the old system are supposed to begin by November 15, they say.

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Moderator, please forward to; Mr. Fulford ONLY (if you can) DO NOT POST
Benjamin,
A group of us has started the process of reclamation of our country.
So far we have some 22 states in various stages, paperwork, etc.
To be blunt, the intent is to use our position to implement a time limited Commander in Chief and military/financial emergency.
After cleaning house, free and honest elections (paper ballots) are to be held.
One of our group is negotiating 'things' as you read this.
Due to the limited number of people initiating this, we need the assistance of anyone wanting to really be free. The more the merrier...
We are instituting a New Government based on the Generic Constitution up to and including the original 13th Amendment.
Contact : queen********@gmail.com
Express that I sent you, your first name, and state.
Drake *********@yahoo.com

Posted by: D | 11/30/2011 at 05:27

Then there's this from 9 months ago. See if you can find Drakes "style" in one of the comments. A possible pseudonym perhaps?

http://www.sovereignman.com/expat/is-it-fixable/

Finally, here's where I found some posts by a Drake on a freedom/patriots forum along with a surname that just fits the "DRAKE" to a tee :) again pay attention to the writing style. (Once again a copy->paste out of respect)


Reply by Drake ******* on November 18, 2010 at 10:50am
Wonderful...at best another distraction.
We made, pay, and supply ALL these people...!
This is all about the age old design of a pipeline through the area to the gulf, etc.
Name of the game is OIL!
Even this is a false flag crock of BS.
There are different generation sciences that have been around for hundreds of years.
So who are 'they' kidding?
Anyone who will listen and follows main stream media.
You know, the righteious spin doctors, putting out approved propaganda...
No play by rules? Then I don't either...you blow them away and don't even break stride, just keep on keepin on!
BUT!
Who do ya shoot?
Maybe getting rid of all the organizations who started the mess?
A mass change in Washingon?
Then too, we seem to have an immanent collapse coming, we could just wait.
Judge not lest ye also be so judged...hmmm?
The only people after us are our own!
We have seen the enemy, and he are us...
And away we go again...
Where to?


Reply by Drake ******* on November 9, 2010 at 11:39am
Anyone who states and has stated that the government needs a major overhaul AND has tried.
Several years of service and acting responsibly to We The People.
I feel comfortable with several names.
Constitutionally oriented, and then some...
Legislating constitutional controls on the fed and its extremely multiple agencies, etc.
Repayment to the Social Security account, getting rid of the hidden welfare (medicaid), and denying illegals any assistance other than making them legal...
Tie food stamps into the unemployment limits.
Put our military on the border, got lots of them overseas, and support our troops by bringing them home-as promissed!
Go to a flat tax of 10% and get rid of the IRS. 10% corporate and personal, limit total tax to a max of 20% combined, state, local, and sales...NO inventory tax.
Repeal the estate death tax, as taxes have already been paid on it all, excluding earnings.
Lotsa dyn-o-mite things can cause our economy to explode!!!
Daydreams are so cool...
END THE FED!!!
Put most participants in prison, bailouts, government motors, et all...
ALL of wall street, big banks, need to be booked! It is called fraud, treason, etc.
Goldman Sachs...unbelievable!

I hope this helps to get this thread back on track and solidifies some credibility to good 'ole Drake. I can't attest that he's not being fed BS but "something" tells me he'd be wise to it.

I'll post some more Drake-isms I dug up tomorrow. This should keep you folks busy for a while :)

Drake said to "do your own research"... So I did! :D

-twelve31

I sent you a few pm's. After looking into it further I think Drake (and his last name) is actually his full alias he's been running (excuse the term) under for a while now. Just my opinion. I'm going to keep reading though, I'm sure I'll have more opinions later.

EDIT: Okay, I don't know why we are dancing around his last name. A simple search will pop it up on google...

[MargueriteBee]

Why bother closing the borders? They have had so much advance warning they most likely have moved their stuff by now.

[twelve31]

Hey Vivek,

I'll check your PM's in a bit.

I tend to agree on the "alias" or perhaps "web persona" theory. Just in case we're wrong I didn't want to be the one to broadcast information that Drake wishes to remain private. It's about respect and honor for the sacrifice Drake is making for our freedom an sovereignty.

None of us bothered to be the first to "git up off the couch" did we.

Brockbrader's/Woods "First Follower" video comes to mind.

hO8MwBZl-Vc

It takes some stones to stick your head out there and have a target on your back. That's why I respect Brockbrader/Wood too. His real identity being outed didn't do him any favors did it.

Good find btw :)


EDIT: Okay, I don't know why we are dancing around his last name. A simple search will pop it up on google...

If someone else decides to "out him" that's their choice. I for one don't intend to muddy the waters any further or provide ammunition for the opposition.

-twelve31

[DreamsInDigital]

It is his request and desire in the interest of protecting his family and himself and also his sources, etc that he be allowed to keep his full/true identity confidential/private. Also to prevent being bothered/harassed by millions of emails daily that will only serve to interrupt / delay him furthering his very important work. I think we should show that we are capable of respecting another human and those that know that specific information should show him respect in keeping that information private at his request and anyone that FINDS that information should also extend the same respect towards him and not publish it publicly. Not to mention we definitely do NOT need to be providing any help of any sort to the opposition.

[modwiz]

I have attempted to reach people in my community for an immediate contact system. Although now it seems I am considered a lunatic for even mentioning it. Most I have tried to spread the word about have brushed me off. It seems in my community I will be the only one with an open mind.

They will remember when it matters. You did a good thing.

[YvonneG]

Hey Vivek,

I'll check your PM's in a bit.

I tend to agree on the "alias" or perhaps "web persona" theory. Just in case we're wrong I didn't want to be the one to broadcast information that Drake wishes to remain private. It's about respect and honor for the sacrifice Drake is making for our freedom an sovereignty.

None of us bothered to be the first to "git up off the couch" did we.

Brockbrader's/Woods "First Follower" video comes to mind.

hO8MwBZl-Vc

It takes some stones to stick your head out there and have a target on your back. That's why I respect Brockbrader/Wood too. His real identity being outed didn't do him any favors did it.

Good find btw :)


EDIT: Okay, I don't know why we are dancing around his last name. A simple search will pop it up on google...

If someone else decides to "out him" that's their choice. I for one don't intend to muddy the waters any further or provide ammunition for the opposition.

-twelve31

Drake has stated that this is his real name on one of the freedom reigns shows. ( no last name is known)

¤=[Post Update]=¤



I have attempted to reach people in my community for an immediate contact system. Although now it seems I am considered a lunatic for even mentioning it. Most I have tried to spread the word about have brushed me off. It seems in my community I will be the only one with an open mind.

They will remember when it matters. You did a good thing.

Lets start Lunatics Anonymous :boink:

[YvonneG]

I'm just going to toss this one out there.


Posted by Drake

Rapture and ascension and many more things are expressed in The Bible. The Book also talks about evil and the father of it. Towards the end, evil is disposed of in the lake of fire.
Our planet is the last one that has this evil on it.
When the evil here is disposed of, there will be no more anywhere.
Note that the so called WW III has not happened. Notice that every time this is tried again, it fails...just don't work, never happens...
Whatever happened to Armageddon?
It was supposed to have been happening...and now the fuse can't be lit?
Everyone here sez Show Me...
OK...
The show is on very soon.
When that HAPPENS, I do hope you remember what you said...

Hmmm... interdasting. You can read more for yourself of clarifications he makes on this whole plan--here is his profile page on the site from which I pulled the quote: http://wramsite.com/profile/DrakeBailey?xg_source=profiles_memberList

Happy reading!

Thank you so very much Vivek...what a find!

[YvonneG]

This is a really juicy response from Drake...once more Vivek...thanks for sharing this link.

Permalink Reply by Drake on April 8, 2012 at 10:47am

True, except for one thing...
ALL of this was dissolved by our paperwork.
The law you quote has exceptions to those deeming themselves as in charge owners of everything.
We The People are independent of everything except our founding documents, meeting minutes, and agreement of We The People.
This is the reason for the mass resignations that started on the day our paperwork left our shores...they couldn't catch it or stop it.
Secondly, as presented, it holds everyone responsible for their actions, public and private.
>Our country and its people have been set FREE!
:peace:

[YvonneG]

In Drakes own words to nay-sayers. I got this from the link Vivek supplied us with. Not sure if this has been posted yet, but for me Drake says it all here.

Permalink Reply by Drake on April 8, 2012 at 4:39am

I do hope ya all be ready to deal with the reality of all this.
And no. No one will get the details until it is time for them to be outed.
Wilcock has been reporting on exactly what is taking place. Note the number of those getting out in Europe is in the thousands...
If you chose to do your homework, you might check to see IF there is an alliance of over 130 unaligned nations outside the G-20/G-5...
I am only a voice crying in the wilderness here...don't know nuthin, an all that...
Funny that as the financials go, so goes the power base.
All of you might consider that it was higher ups at the pentagon who contacted us to help them.
Think about the fact that when the paperwork left our shores and at exactly the same time 'they' couldn't stop it, the resignations, retirements, and arrests started in Europe.
Look into what recently happened, arrests in each of the places where the money goes...Vatican is cut off, Bunds Bank takes out a restraining order against Merkle...
>Then there is the refusal to allow the Global Settlements Accounts to be released.
This is why our kids are hungry and there are no jobs...Obama, Bush, Romney, are standing in the way...
Read The White Hats Report. Not the greatest but right on in this one.
HOW do I know?
Simply, I am and have been involved. That's how.
Lots of people talk, including me, BUT, show me...a little more action and a lot less talk...hmmm?
So are those who say all of what has been presented is BS, are these simply your questioning of the validity? Or something more?
With all the trouble of getting any real news out, just exactly how does any of you expect real news to get out? Show me, as I've been trying for years...
Does it really matter what venue or web site gets it out?
How many who were asleep before that interview are now waking up?
The idea here is to get the word out AND educate as many as possible...not to play with objectors and detractors.
So...
Just exactly what are you doing to make freedom the reality it should be?
Yeah, I know...
Too much and too awesome.
Just like ALL the rest...that can't happen in The United States!
Really? And just exactly why not?
I painted a very large target on my ass here and no one sees that?
I am walking point in the last chance anyone has for FREEDOM in our country.
Are you behind FREEDOM or not?
IF so, then before stating that this is all conspiracy theory, you might think by making sure brain is engaged before putting mouth into gear.
I positively, absolutely will not stop until I am dead or we GIT-R-DONE!
Either you are part of the solution
OR
You are part of the problem.
WHICH IS IT?
Enjoy...


http://wramsite.com/forum/topics/insider-claims-imminent-mass-arrests-of-globalists-bankers-and?commentId=3567481%3AComment%3A1280015

[TargeT]

In Drakes own words to nay-sayers. I got this from the link Vivek supplied us with. Not sure if this has been posted yet, but for me Drake says it all here.


Lots of people talk, including me, BUT, show me...a little more action and a lot less talk...hmmm?


Permalink Reply by Drake on April 8, 2012 at 4:39amhttp://wramsite.com/forum/topics/insider-claims-imminent-mass-arrests-of-globalists-bankers-and?commentId=3567481%3AComment%3A1280015

10 days of silence when things are happening right now etc...

it appears he's not even "talking" anymore? and where is this action he calls for, have I missed something?

[Alie]

In Drakes own words to nay-sayers. I got this from the link Vivek supplied us with. Not sure if this has been posted yet, but for me Drake says it all here.


Lots of people talk, including me, BUT, show me...a little more action and a lot less talk...hmmm?


Permalink Reply by Drake on April 8, 2012 at 4:39amhttp://wramsite.com/forum/topics/insider-claims-imminent-mass-arrests-of-globalists-bankers-and?commentId=3567481%3AComment%3A1280015

10 days of silence when things are happening right now etc...

it appears he's not even "talking" anymore? and where is this action he calls for, have I missed something?

We have put Drake and all things under a microscope. From what I've listened to, the time-frame is between now and mid-may (that's when the 45 day period concludes.)

Some babies are birthed very quickly (my own grandson was born 30 minutes after arriving at the birthing center) and some babies take days. Think of this time period as a BIRTHING ... patience targeT --- we certainly don't want to damage the baby's head by yanking it out of the womb.

[TargeT]

We have put Drake and all things under a microscope. From what I've listened to, the time-frame is between now and mid-may (that's when the 45 day period concludes.)

Some babies are birthed very quickly (my own grandson was born 30 minutes after arriving at the birthing center) and some babies take days. Think of this time period as a BIRTHING ... patience targeT --- we certainly don't want to damage the baby's head by yanking it out of the womb.

very true, I am just looking for clarification, perhaps just a touch of "nay sayer"

I am an oath keeper, I am currently involved in the military industrial complex, I have no delusions of grandeur so I'm sure I haven't heard anything because I'm "not that important" however... I have heard nothing & that gives me pause... I only question to see if there is anything I am missing & it appears I am not... the waiting game continues I suppose.

[Avocadess]

I counted up the days from the time Drake said 30-45 days and that means by May 23rd for day 45...

[modwiz]

We have put Drake and all things under a microscope. From what I've listened to, the time-frame is between now and mid-may (that's when the 45 day period concludes.)

Some babies are birthed very quickly (my own grandson was born 30 minutes after arriving at the birthing center) and some babies take days. Think of this time period as a BIRTHING ... patience targeT --- we certainly don't want to damage the baby's head by yanking it out of the womb.

very true, I am just looking for clarification, perhaps just a touch of "nay sayer"

I am an oath keeper, I am currently involved in the military industrial complex, I have no delusions of grandeur so I'm sure I haven't heard anything because I'm "not that important" however... I have heard nothing & that gives me pause... I only question to see if there is anything I am missing & it appears I am not... the waiting game continues I suppose.

My understanding of 'engagement' is complete, stultifying, boredom, and then mayhem. Let us gather our wits, humor and energies for what will be ours to deal with when reality shifts. There are going to be millions of freaked out people. We will have our hands full and overloaded. Almost every person who ever called us a kook will be begging us to tell them what is going on.

And we will.

[Jeffrey]

I'm just going to toss this one out there.


Posted by Drake

Rapture and ascension and many more things are expressed in The Bible. The Book also talks about evil and the father of it. Towards the end, evil is disposed of in the lake of fire.
Our planet is the last one that has this evil on it.
When the evil here is disposed of, there will be no more anywhere.
Note that the so called WW III has not happened. Notice that every time this is tried again, it fails...just don't work, never happens...
Whatever happened to Armageddon?
It was supposed to have been happening...and now the fuse can't be lit?
Everyone here sez Show Me...
OK...
The show is on very soon.
When that HAPPENS, I do hope you remember what you said...

Hmmm... interdasting. You can read more for yourself of clarifications he makes on this whole plan--here is his profile page on the site from which I pulled the quote: http://wramsite.com/profile/DrakeBailey?xg_source=profiles_memberList

Happy reading!

Thank you so very much Vivek...what a find!

My friend, I have found MUCH more. I think Drake knows way more than he's leading on, and I mean in a METAPHYSICAL sense (I'm talking ancient magic/shamanic and acsension type stuff here), not just about government/politics/law. From what I've learned, I'm sure he'd feel quite at home here on PA... Still trying to reconcile a few crinkles with what I've dug up though...

[YvonneG]

Drake talks 2 x week on freedom reigns show.




In Drakes own words to nay-sayers. I got this from the link Vivek supplied us with. Not sure if this has been posted yet, but for me Drake says it all here.


Lots of people talk, including me, BUT, show me...a little more action and a lot less talk...hmmm?


Permalink Reply by Drake on April 8, 2012 at 4:39amhttp://wramsite.com/forum/topics/insider-claims-imminent-mass-arrests-of-globalists-bankers-and?commentId=3567481%3AComment%3A1280015

10 days of silence when things are happening right now etc...

it appears he's not even "talking" anymore? and where is this action he calls for, have I missed something?

We have put Drake and all things under a microscope. From what I've listened to, the time-frame is between now and mid-may (that's when the 45 day period concludes.)

Some babies are birthed very quickly (my own grandson was born 30 minutes after arriving at the birthing center) and some babies take days. Think of this time period as a BIRTHING ... patience targeT --- we certainly don't want to damage the baby's head by yanking it out of the womb.

[Endity]

Not no longer. The only show that would have him on that network moved to a new place. Wolf Spirit or something of the sort.

[Avocadess]

Yes. He will be on Wolf Spirit Radio now, with Deatra. It has a bigger audience than Freedom Reigns Radio. I wish I knew when the next show is with him on it. The soonest I can find listed is this Sunday, April 22nd, from 9am-12 noon. I believe that is Pacific time but not 100% certain. Here is the home page for Wolf Spirit Radio:

http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/main/

If anyone can find a more honed-in link for the next show, please do post it...!

However, there is a Freedom Reigns show in tomorrow (Thursday) and I DO wonder if he might check in on that show?! Strangely, the two bookmarks I had for that show have DISAPPEARED from my bookmarks. What could that mean?

This is posted on FreedomReigns.US:

Our Show Schedule is Thurs from 1 to 3 pm Eastern and on Sunday from 6 to 9 pm. Our Guest Schedule remains very flexible so we can bring breaking news in the progress of our endeavors as they happen so it is not easy for us post an actual guest schedule.

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

Since we haven't heard anything from Drake yet...


Benjamin Fulford:



"The battle for control of the global financial system and thus the future of the planet has reached a temporary deadlock as the committee of 300 struggles to maintain power even as the rest of the world continues to push for a fair, free and open financial system controlled by the people of the planet. The situation has reached the point where physical action against the committee (mainly in the form of mass arrests) has become the only possible recourse.

One problem, of course, lies in the issue of what to do about the “ring of power,” or the job hitherto referred to as M1, wherein a single individual has ultimate control over the creation and distribution of money. There is no M1 now according to the Swiss government and other sources. Somebody needs to make sure that never again is single individual given such power and that means metaphorically taking the centralized control of finance and dissolving it in the “Mt. Doom,” of the Lord of the Rings to ensure that humanity is once again free from debt slavery and horror.

There were many meetings world-wide last week aimed at accomplishing exactly this.


In Japan a representative of the White Dragon Society met with top Finance Ministry official Eijiro Katsu and Bank of Japan Governor Masaaki Shirakawa last Thursday to discuss what to do about the astronomical sums placed inside Federal Reserve Board and Euroclear computers by competing factions.

The answer they gave is that Japan wants to go ahead and start using the funds for the benefit of the planet but that the Japanese authorities needed to proceed cautiously. Translation: They want to make sure they are on the winning side and will keep a low profile until then.

The committee of 300 tried to cash $600 trillion worth of bonds, through Dr. Zvonko Berdik-Albert, “President and CEO of the World Economy & Finance Treasury.” They claimed to represent the Dragon Family Royal Society composed of Asian royal families but as reported last week it turns out to have been an attempt by the committee of 300 to pretend they represented Asia. However, their representative has since ceased all contact with either the White Dragon Society or the Japanese government.

In a different move, Neil Keenan and Keith Scott issued a cease and desist against UBS Chairman Kaspar Villiger and a Singaporean agent by the name of Alex Ling Lee Soon who were caught trying to get their hand on the real dragon family’s funds. Shortly after that UK Prime Minister David Cameron also tried to get his hands on the money but was rebuffed. Keenan and Scott are working on behalf of a Swiss led 134 nation alliance.

In the meantime, the situation in Cabal controlled economies is getting progressively worse by the day. For example, markets in Europe were rattled last week despite feel good talk by various cabal controlled leaders like Nicholas Sarkozy and Angela Merkel. The real situation in Europe is as follows* The Greek Government has unfunded liabilities worth 800% of their GDP and their economy shrank by 5% last year. The unemployment rate in Spain is 23% while the youth unemployment rate is 50%. The Portuguese economy is expected to shrink by 5% this year. Italy’s debt is 2.7 times that of the PIIGS (Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Greece and Spain). Their chief creditor, the German banking system, meanwhile, is leveraged at 32/1.

Put in simple terms, the European cabal controlled banking system is bankrupt. What this means is that the European people are about to be freed from debt slavery.

In the US as well, institutions like Goldman Sachs, J.P. Morgan etc. are already shadows of their former selves with their CEOs constantly surrounded by lawyers and armed guards.

There were also reports from three different sources from three separate intelligence agencies (MI6, CIA and NSA) that the Bushes, Clintons and other cabal leaders had prepared a hideaway in the Bahamas. A look with Google Earth did reveal two separate locations with air-strips located next to a group of ultra-rich people’s type housing complexes. One of the Islands had a giant Star of David on it clearly visible from a satellite.

However, sources in the Pentagon make it clear the cabalists will not be allowed to leave the United States until they have faced the justice system. These same sources say 800 bankers have already resigned and many arrests have already taken place.

In China as well, there are signs of major change. As noted before, all the top leaders such as Xi Xinping who were supposed to take over the government this year have vanished from the pages of the official Xinhua government news site in April. Clearly some sort of coup d’etat can now be confirmed to have taken place there even though the Western corporate news corps is still only focused on Bo Xilai. The Bo investigation has definitely gone far beyond him.

In Japan too, the yakuza and right wing forces allied with the White Dragon Society are getting impatient and are making plans to detain key cabal operatives for questioning. Major historical changes are becoming increasingly obvious."

[KiwiElf]

Hehe ... we are such impatient little pixies :)

[Sabrina]

http://www.roadtoroota.com/public/87...Y6pERGuSpAZ85B

Take Down of the Federal Reserve System Begins
Bix Weir


In an interview last weekend the "Good Guy Insider" gave a brief update on the pending take down of the Bad Guys. In this interview Drake said to expect something to be leaked out of the Federal Reserve sometime midway through the week. Here's the interview and the Drake conversation is right at the beginning:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedom...freedom-reigns

So I was watching for something related to the Federal Reserve and AS IF RIGHT ON CUE revelations came out about the Fed hiding massive amounts of information on their meetings during the 2008 financial crisis. Here's Dylan Ratigan (part of the Good Guys) exposing the info.

I will address this further in this weeks Friday Road Trip.

EVERYTHING is exploding for the Bad Guys.

It may seem a bit confusing that the Road to Roota Theory shows the Federal Reserve working to take down the Banking Cabal and yet, on the surface, they seem to be working with the Bad Guys.

My take: We have come to the time when the Federal Reserve falls on their own sword.

Ron Paul is about to get a GREAT BIG BOOST in visibility as he pursues these latest revelations!

It's all going as planned...

It is TAKE DOWN TIME!

Bix Weir www.RoadtoRoota.com

(Rattigan interview at the link)

[joedjemal]

Well, I hope something like this is going on but having seen this sort of stuff being said time after time for years I'm dubious. A friend of mine tried to use the sovereignty stuff and found himself in prison for contempt of court. I'm still waiting to hear the outcome of that court case Wilcock was going on about last year. We're well past the response time for the defendants and there's nothing. Meanwhile the ptb look as bad as ever.

It seems probable to me that all these resignations are happening because collapse is nearly here. The banks failed in 07/08 and the problem was passed onto tax payers but that could only ever have been a temporary delay in the final result.

Collapse I've seen mountains of evidence for, organised opposition has much less but by its nature there wouldn't be.

I really do hope these delusional psychopaths are about to be arrested because I'd rather see some sort of attempt to deal rationally with our systemic problems, hopefully avoiding a dieoff. It look to me more like they're stealing everything they can get their hands on and heading for the hills and bunkers.

Either way chaos looks highly probable and if you don't have a larder stocked for at least a few months you'd better get on it at once.

[ThePythonicCow]

I moved 9 recent posts on this thread into a new thread: Drake and Teri - a contrary view. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43958-Drake-and-Teri-a-contrary-view.) See my Mod-edit comment at the top of the first post there, for details.

[YvonneG]

Here is the link for today's show...it is on wolf spirit radio but they are
broadcasting still through blogtalkradio --sorry about the previous info,
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/ftr/2012/04/19/community-project-with-drake

[Avocadess]

Thanks, YvonneG...! The show today begins at 5 o'clock CST (3:00 PST, 4:00 MST, 6:00 EST). In less than an hour!

[Avocadess]

I just heard the brief update by Drake. It went over my head. I could not understand exactly what he was saying...Overall I would say it sounded a bit like all hell is breaking loose, to put it mildly...

[DreamsInDigital]

I guess I missed it and just tuned in way to late, now the link/show isn't even working for me. I can't hear it at all. And it doesn't even work. Can go to the page, but click the play button and nothing happens.

[Avocadess]

It cut off for me even though I was listening from the beginning. As soon as they were going to switch to someone other than Drake it cut off. When I got it to finally play again it started from the beginning with the theme song of the show once I got it to play again. Now it is starting again apparently...so about to hear Drake again and will try to take notes.

[karelia]

I just heard the brief update by Drake. It went over my head. I could not understand exactly what he was saying...

I sort of typed along as he spoke and think I got the gist of it:

Drake got information from his "pipeline." He did point out that nothing of that had been confirmed per se, but also stressed that this particular pipeline has always spoken truth. He did ask for confirmation and said as soon as he receives it, he'll sing it from the roof tops.

Generals under Joint Chief of Staff told everyone to shove it.
Secret service is ticked as well as Delta Force because they’ve been dumped on, the manner of which was not kosher.
Pictures of Clinton partying in Columbia taken by secret service. Clinton was supposed to discuss nuclear issues elsewhere in the world (Turkey? Don't remember).
UN is under heavy investigation.
Central banks in uproar because of things filed against them.
Arrests will be one at a time, methodical; big guys first. Last remark was: the war is on.

[Avocadess]

It was said there will be updates on upcoming Thursdays.

Drake said:

The latest he has heard he believes is probably true but has NOT been confirmed for him yet and has not been substantiated to him yet although everything else he has heard through this pipeline has been accurate thus far.

The Generals under the Joint Chiefs of Staff told everybody to shove it. (What does that mean??? Who is "everybody"? I had hoped someone would ask Drake to clarify, but that did not happen. No questions were asked of Drake at all after his brief statement which I encapsulate here.)

The Secret Service and the Delta Force are extraordinarily ticked because they were dumped on and the way it happened was not kosher or cool.

Ms. Clinton was partying in Colombia when she was supposed to be in a Nuclear Conference in Turkey. Pictures have been floating around of that.

Apparently Israel is livid. (About Clinton? Not clear to me what exactly they are livid about.)

The UN is under heavy investigation.

The Central Banks are in an uproar because of things filed against them.

DC is lost about what to do and running around like chickens with their heads cut off.

Panetta was told that there is no way he is the boss of the military. (U.S. Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta)

The arrests are going to be one at a time. He guesses the big guys first.

As soon as he knows the truth for sure and it is safe to tell us he will tell us more.

Drake repeated again that 14 lives have been lost. He spoke of one high-level person whose two children were killed. "Does that answer your questions that you shouldn't be doing what you are doing?" is the message the parent was given.

"The last word was: the war is on."

That was about it.

Then the show went silent for the second time, ending at the same place, where Deatra was turning the show over back to another host to talk about community projects which she said were very important.

Cool that Drake's message got through before the radio show was cut off.

[jorr lundstrom]

Yes, the connection aborts after 15 minutes. LOL


All is well


Jorr 2.0

[Avocadess]

The OWO didn't like that show I take it.

I've made several fixes of typos and misspellings of the transcribed notes above. I'm told Paneta was the correct name that I spelled and both Peneta and Pendeta before.

Okay. Now I looked that up and it appears this is the correct spelling:

U.S. Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta

[YvonneG]

you can call in on the phone 646-649-0866...i have been listening....


It was said there will be updates on upcoming Thursdays.

Drake said:

The latest he has heard he believes is probably true but has NOT been confirmed for him yet and has not been substantiated to him yet although everything else he has heard through this pipeline has been accurate thus far.

The Generals under the Joint Chiefs of Staff told everybody to shove it. (What does that mean??? Who is "everybody"? I had hoped someone would ask Drake to clarify, but that did not happen. No questions were asked of Drake at all after his brief statement which I encapsulate here.)

The Secret Service and the Delta Force are extraordinarily ticked because they were dumped on and the way it happened was not kosher or cool.

Ms. Clinton was partying in Colombia when she was supposed to be in a Nuclear Conference in Turkey. Pictures have been floating around of that.

Apparently Israel is livid. (About Clinton? Not clear to me what exactly they are livid about.)

The UN is under heavy investigation.

The Central Banks are in an uproar because of things filed against them.

DC is lost about what to do and running around like chickens with their heads cut off.

Pendeta (sp) was told that there is no way he is the boss of the military. (Who is Pendeta?)

The arrests are going to be one at a time. He guesses the big guys first.

As soon as he knows the truth for sure and it is safe to tell us he will tell us more.

Drake repeated again that 14 lives have been lost. He spoke of one high-level person whose two children were killed and was then told they shouldn't be doing what they are doing. "Does that answer your questions that you shouldn't be doing what you are doing?" is the message the parent was given.

"That word was: the war is on."

That was about it.

Then the show went silent for the second time, ending at the same place, where Deatra was turning the show over back to another host to talk about community projects which she said were very important.

Cool that Drake's message got through before the radio show was cut off.

[foreverfan]

Thank for the update all.

[KiwiElf]

This is like watching a remake of "They Live" - for real! Awesome :)

[Avocadess]

Yes. With all the creepiness included...!

I see from Wiki that U.S. Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta was formerly the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency.

From Wikipedia:

Leon Edward Panetta (born June 28, 1938) is the 23rd and current United States Secretary of Defense, serving in the administration of President Barack Obama since 2011. Prior to taking office, he served as Director of the Central Intelligence Agency. An Italian-American Democratic politician, lawyer, and professor, Panetta served as President Bill Clinton's White House Chief of Staff from 1994 to 1997, Director of the Office of Management and Budget from 1993–1994, and was a member of the United States House of Representatives from 1977 to 1993. He is the founder of the Panetta Institute for Public Policy, served as Distinguished Scholar to Chancellor Charles B. Reed of the California State University System and professor of public policy at Santa Clara University.

In January 2009, President Obama nominated Panetta for the post of CIA Director.[1][2] Panetta was confirmed by the full Senate in February 2009. As director of the CIA, Panetta oversaw President Obama's operation that led to Osama bin Laden's death.

On April 28, 2011, Obama announced the nomination of Panetta as Defense Secretary when Robert Gates retired. In June the Senate confirmed Panetta unanimously as Secretary of Defense. He assumed the office on July 1.[3] David Petraeus took over as Director of the Central Intelligence Agency on September 6.[4]

[Dennis Leahy]

Paneta was told that there is no way he is the boss of the military. (Who is Pendeta?)Leon Panetta was director of the CIA, now the Secretary of War, er, I mean Defense. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Panetta

Dennis
{edit} Oh. I see you already had that while I was finding a a link to post. I almost posted a photo of him I Photoshopped into a reptilian looking person, but went for the Wiki entry instead. :~)
-D

[Avocadess]

In the past they have sometimes brought Drake back into the show toward the end. I hope that happens this time!

[KiwiElf]

Your'e doing a great job Avocadess!
This is to be expected (attacks on Drake), and for me, another indicator that so far, it's the real thing. Nothing this big is going to happen over night for sure.

[Avocadess]

Drake is back on! About 28 min left to the show...

[aranuk]

I have been listening to Drake and what he was saying in the chat was revealing.

Stan

[foreverfan]

I have been listening to Drake and what he was saying in the chat was revealing.

Stan

Do tell...

[aranuk]

I just heard the brief update by Drake. It went over my head. I could not understand exactly what he was saying...

I sort of typed along as he spoke and think I got the gist of it:

Drake got information from his "pipeline." He did point out that nothing of that had been confirmed per se, but also stressed that this particular pipeline has always spoken truth. He did ask for confirmation and said as soon as he receives it, he'll sing it from the roof tops.

Generals under Joint Chief of Staff told everyone to shove it.
Secret service is ticked as well as Delta Force because they’ve been dumped on, the manner of which was not kosher.
Pictures of Clinton partying in Columbia taken by secret service. Clinton was supposed to discuss nuclear issues elsewhere in the world (Turkey? Don't remember).
UN is under heavy investigation.
Central banks in uproar because of things filed against them.
Arrests will be one at a time, methodical; big guys first. Last remark was: the war is on.

Yes Karelia he was referring to Hilary not Bill

Stan

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Did anyone see me on the chat? I got answers from Drake about ET's help which was affirmed. he said Scottish people were getting organised and British too.

Stan

[aranuk]

When Drake came back on at the end he spoke about ET's which he prefers to call Angels who had foiled nuclear missiles and the story about the troops facing each other and their bullets didn't fire.


Stan

[Avocadess]

Wish I had had the link to the chat. I've been having trouble figuring out where things are with these shows! Stan, please tell us more while it's fresh in your mind what Drake said in chat!!!

I'd love to hear from others what they make of what Drake said.

[Alie]

Wish I had had the link to the chat. I've been having trouble figuring out where things are with these shows! Stan, please tell us more while it's fresh in your mind what Drake said in chat!!!

I'd love to hear from others what they make of what Drake said.

Thanks for the "transcript". Very helpful.

[DreamsInDigital]

If possible someone should ask about the Clones/ Robitoids. And, what the movement's plans are to deal with those.

What is he saying about the ETs since I can get on the radio show to listen or into the chat? also would love notes on anything else he is saying otherwise.

[aranuk]

In the chat room a british guy asked if prince Harry would be king he said none of them, meaning the royal family will be no more!
He said Alex Jones is scared and was told he can't talk. Drake referred to him as Jones. He said to another guest that the ET's were well organised.
He said the Pope is resigning and that the Pope is a criminal and guilty of very serious crimes. Let me think about more.

Stan

[karelia]

Yes Karelia he was referring to Hilary not Bill

Stan

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Did anyone see me on the chat? I got answers from Drake about ET's help which was affirmed. he said Scottish people were getting organised and British too.

Stan

Yeah. I didn't think he was talking about he-Clinton.

I didn't see you in chat! I joined late, though, about half an hour in.

[aranuk]

Wish I had had the link to the chat. I've been having trouble figuring out where things are with these shows! Stan, please tell us more while it's fresh in your mind what Drake said in chat!!!

I'd love to hear from others what they make of what Drake said.

I posted but I'm trying hard to remember more

Stan

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Am I the only one that could see the chat?

Stan

¤=[Post Update]=¤



Yes Karelia he was referring to Hilary not Bill

Stan

¤=[Post Update]=¤



Did anyone see me on the chat? I got answers from Drake about ET's help which was affirmed. he said Scottish people were getting organised and British too.

Stan

Yeah. I didn't think he was talking about he-Clinton.

I didn't see you in chat! I joined late, though, about half an hour in.

I was in chat with my real name Stan not Aranuk

[aranuk]

Oh yes more....... he said that free energy and all hidden from the public technology will be used to help people in their ordinary lives .

Stan

[Avocadess]

Stan: Thanks for what you remembered thus far! Very helpful re A. Jones. I couldn't understand WHY he was not covering this story about Drake and the arrests! Please search your memory for more if you can! =)

karelia: Do you have anything to add that you remember from the chat that was from Drake???

[aranuk]

If possible someone should ask about the Clones/ Robitoids. And, what the movement's plans are to deal with those.

What is he saying about the ETs since I can get on the radio show to listen or into the chat? also would love notes on anything else he is saying otherwise.

Dreams Nobody asked about clones or anything.

Stan

[aranuk]

Stan: Thanks for what you remembered thus far! Very helpful re A. Jones. I couldn't understand WHY he was not covering this story about Drake and the arrests! Please search your memory for more if you can! =)

karelia: Do you have anything to add that you remember from the chat that was from Drake???

He said that Jones was warned not to talk about it all. I'm just guessing here but maybe he was warned not to talk/growl and whip up mass hysteria. Or anyone got any other ideas why?

Stan

Stan

PS came here to edit out one of my Stan's in case Dreams accuses me of being a clone:p

[karelia]

<snip>

karelia: Do you have anything to add that you remember from the chat that was from Drake???

The only thing I remember in addition to what Stan already reported is that upon someone asking, Drake confirmed that by June, it'll all be over/done.

Oh, and he mentioned the White Hats. I'm still a bit confused as to whether they're really good or not (I think he said they are the good guys, but don't quote me on that; perhaps someone else can confirm/correct), but he said they're CIA. And the White Knights are to be taken with caution.

[aranuk]

<snip>

karelia: Do you have anything to add that you remember from the chat that was from Drake???

The only thing I remember in addition to what Stan already reported is that upon someone asking, Drake confirmed that by June, it'll all be over/done.

Oh, and he mentioned the White Hats. I'm still a bit confused as to whether they're really good or not (I think he said they are the good guys, but don't quote me on that; perhaps someone else can confirm/correct), but he said they're CIA. And the White Knights are to be taken with caution.

Yes Karelia I remember that too but I must have missed the white knight remark. I remember something else. He said he liked Sherrif Joe and that he was in the same group.

Stan

[karelia]

Yes, karelia, I remember that too, but I must have missed the white knight remark. I remember something else. He said he liked Sherrif Joe and that he was in the same group.

Stan

The White Hats/White Knights he talked about either just before or just after he came back on air. And yes, I remember the Sheriff Joe bit, too. :)

[the_vast_mystery]

Whenever I hear the term "white hats" I always think "Don't you mean Black hats?" Because black/white hat tended to come from whether you hacked for the government (white hat) or were anti-establishment (Black hat).

[aranuk]

Hi TVM welcome here. No, I think what it refers to is in the old movies the good cowboys wore white hats and the baddies wore black hats. As far as I know that is.

Stan

[the_vast_mystery]

Oh! that makes much more sense, I really haven't seen anything more "western" than F-Troop so I wouldn't have noticed that ^_^;;

[aranuk]

I grew up watching westerns as they were called. I grew up thinking I was the Lone Ranger until I realised that was not true at all. That was er about three weeks ago:eek:

Stan

[Chester]

The Drake segment already up on youtube -

credit goes to in5d

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI5QfGiITPo&feature=uploademail

enjoy

[EnergyGardener]

They brought Drake back at around 90 minutes; I wish I had accessed the chat room.

Here are the highlights I remember:

1. Generals under the Joint Chiefs told the Joint Chiefs to "shove it" and that is the edited version.
2. They told Panetta that he is no longer in charge of the military.
3. The "war is on," but for the time being arrests are being accomplished one-at-a-time.
4. He must not disclose most of the information because lives are at stake; 14 lives have been lost so far, two were some person's children as a warning to the others.
5. Drake said he doesn't care who gets angry, but for that reason he will not disclose what he cannot until given permission. Then, he will shout it from the rooftops.
6. Hilary go into trouble because while she was documented partying in Columbia she was supposed to be somewhere else.
7. . Divine Intervention: "Angels" have stated that anything nuclear is not going to happen. Drake said that certain officials contacted him to find out where he got that information, because that was classified, including that not only do missiles not fire, the warheads are gone. He also brought up the weapons not firing again. "There is a stacked deck. Very strange things have happened. He has seen one thing happen that puts it all in perspective. Every last biggest and baddest person prays when mother earth is shaking and bombs and bullets are flying all around because they believe something bigger is in charge. He would rather have a Christ praying to Jesus and a Muslim praying to Allah, but rather all was praying to a singular God.
8. There will be no "Fake Alien Invasion" formerly known as "Operation Bluebeam."
9. Pope will be arrested soon for crimes committed.

Please respond with any corrections.

[Mozart]

The arrests are going to be one at a time. He guesses the big guys first.




Hey Beautiful Avocadess,


I really do appreciate your short-cut transcripts!


I gotta check with you on the quote above -- did Drake mean that the arrests would be done one at a time with no mass arrests going down in one day removing the bastards wholesale in one day?


I'm, like, WTF with this one!


:jaw:

[DreamsInDigital]

Mozart,
That definitely removes the prospect of interruptions and mass panics though, think about it positively. :)

[KiwiElf]

We could extrapolate from the summary that the first big arrest may be the Pope. (No great surprise for the masses either considering public knowledge of the Catholic Church). Quite "strategic". :)

That aside, little items ARE popping out on MSM. One major arrest will link to another... and another - domino effect!

Avocadess - just a thought regarding one of your questions earlier re Israel being psst off; If Drake is referring to the equivalent of the NWO there, I would imagine the events summarised would very much end their WW 3 plans for a war with Iran, not to mention other false flag events, alien invasion etc?

[DreamsInDigital]

Gordon Duff even talks about Israel being pissed off in his latest article about the whole Sex Scandal Cover Story with the Secret Service. That's one independent verification there. Israel is supposed to stand down in June, fully. I've been saying for a long time that there wont be a fake alien invasion, nice to have another source confirm on that one... :) Yes, I get the impression also that he's confirming what a lot of us have been saying, no more false flags, ww3 or anything of that sort.

[spuddie]

He [Drake] said that [Alex] Jones was warned not to talk about it all. I'm just guessing here but maybe he was warned not to talk/growl and whip up mass hysteria. Or anyone got any other ideas why?

Stan

Speaking as a daily viewer of Jonesy's Infowars... er... interrupt-athon, here's my guess:

When Fulford and Wilcock first broke the trillion-dollar lawsuit story, I fully expected it would be a major item on the show within a day or so. Indeed, one listener phoned in, alerting Jones to it, whereupon he commented he was going to get one of his posse to get hold of Fulford... presumably for a from-the-horses-mouth interview; he had been a guest before.

But a couple of weeks passed with not only no sign of Fulford but not even a syllable spoken (or written) about the story. I thought it was really, really odd that Jones wasn't bull-horning it from the rooftops. So I dropped his Austin, Texas 'Command Centre' a line:


"I am simply astounded you haven’t mentioned a thing about what must be the biggest, hottest story in the anti-New-World-Order-sphere since it broke over 3 weeks ago, yet I wouldn’t believe for a second it’s not painted large on your radar screen: "The Trillion-Dollar Lawsuit That Could End Financial Tyranny."

Why no peep out of you in 3 weeks?"
But to this day I've not had a reply and there's still been not a squeak on the show about the lawsuit.

I could only conclude that Jones was zipping his motor-mouth on the whole subject because he broadcasts on the Genesis Communications Network. You see, GCN is owned by one Ted Anderson, who also owns Midas Resources, Inc., a precious metals dealer.

I can imagine Anderson... who regularly appears on the show, reporting on the gold and silver markets and advertising his current bullion deals... telling Alex not to breath a word of the story because no-one's going to buy his bullion if they think a trillions-dollars'-worth of off-market gold could shortly be finding its way on-market and tank the price. He'd be having to rename his company Midas Resources In Reverse Inc., ;-)

Anyway, given the linkage between the Fulford/Wilcock expose and the new Drake/Wilcock revelations, my hunch is that that 'truth embargo', shall we say, still holds.

[aranuk]

Good thinking and research Spud!

Stan

[EnergyGardener]

Think about the ramifications of the top generals telling Panetta and the Joint Chiefs they are no longer relevant. We are going to soon see Illuminati bailing, and that some will be noticed publicly on MSM, the Pope is a great example.

Realize that very soon oblivious sleeping Sam and Sally shall soon smell the coffee and wake up; perhaps there is meaning to the maddening process....

I also believe local sheriffs might already know what is coming down; the more time they have to plan, the less human and property losses there will be. But, there comes a point when we say, enough already, "THEY'RE OUT!"

Perhaps we should hold a lottery, or at least each PA member's best guess the estimated dates that various people resign or get arrested (this should have its own thread, because it alone might get everyone's attention, I think I will create one):

1. Pope (5-1-2012)
2. Obama (and other relevant executive, judicial and congressional officials) (5-15-2012)
3. Queen Elizabeth and Charles and all relevant Royals (5-15-2012)
4. Joint Chiefs of US, and other Departments of Intelligence / Surveillance / that acted against the People (5-15-2012)
5. Declaration of Federal Reserve Insolvency / Repayment of Frozen Funds (5-15-2012)
6. Freeze of all Foreclosures / Elimination of Private and Public Debt (5-15-2012)
7. Major partners of Wall Street: Godman Sachs... (5-20-2012)
8. Rothschild House Heads (5-20-2012)
9. Rockefeller House Heads (5-20-2012)
10. George HW, W Bush, Tony Blaire, Bubba Clinton, Hillary, Rumsfeld and Cheney (5-20-2012)
11. Television Network / News Network Heads (6-1-2012)
12. Hollywood Studio Heads (6-1-2012)
13. Defense Contractors (6-1-2012)
14. All Illuminati that remain (6-15-2012)

[Referee]

Think about the ramifications of the top generals telling Panetta and the Joint Chiefs they are no longer relevant. We are going to soon see Illuminati bailing, and that some will be noticed publicly on MSM, the Pope is a great example.

Realize that very soon oblivious sleeping Sam and Sally shall soon smell the coffee and wake up; perhaps there is meaning to the maddening process....

I also believe local sheriffs might already know what is coming down; the more time they have to plan, the less human and property losses there will be. But, there comes a point when we say, enough already, "THEY'RE OUT!"

Perhaps we should hold a lottery, or at least each PA member's best guess the estimated dates that various people resign or get arrested (this should have its own thread, because it alone might get everyone's attention, I think I will create one):

1. Pope (5-1-2012)
2. Obama (and other relevant executive, judicial and congressional officials) (5-15-2012)
3. Queen Elizabeth and Charles and all relevant Royals (5-15-2012)
4. Joint Chiefs of US, and other Departments of Intelligence / Surveillance / that acted against the People (5-15-2012)
5. Declaration of Federal Reserve Insolvency / Repayment of Frozen Funds (5-15-2012)
6. Freeze of all Foreclosures / Elimination of Private and Public Debt (5-15-2012)
7. Major partners of Wall Street: Godman Sachs... (5-20-2012)
8. Rotschild House Heads (5-20-2012)
9. Rockefeller House Heads (5-20-2012)
10. George HW, W Bush, Tony Blaire, Bubba Clinton, Hillary, Rumsfeld and Cheney (5-20-2012)
11. Television Network / News Network Heads (6-1-2012)
12. Hollywood Studio Heads (6-1-2012)
13. Defense Contractors (6-1-2012)
14. All Illuminati that remain (6-15-2012)

Heads of Monsanto?

[DreamsInDigital]

Sure, Monsanto Too, if it doesn't become a smoking hole in the ground in the mean time. :laser:

[aranuk]

Sure, Monsanto Too, if it doesn't become a smoking hole in the ground in the mean time. :laser:

Sweet dreams Dreams! I am off to beddie byes and hope to have sweet dreams too. I feel that way tonight after my Drake tonic.

Stan

[Avocadess]

Stan: Because Drake said in chat that Alex Jones is "scared" it made me think about the fact that Jones is very protective of his family. If he were threatened with his children being hurt I could see him backing down. (He has so many listeners, and the PTW don't like losing their grip so quickly methinks.) Just a guess...

Seems I also remember him saying that the Pope is resigning (or has resigned) because of the criminal charges against him.

Someone else asked me a question but now I have forgotten what it was. Will go check and then update my post in a minute.

White Hats is the term Kerry Cassidy of Project Camelot uses frequently to mean the "good guys" and like Stan, I've got the background of the old westerns where the white hats were the good guys, and Drake strikes me as someone who also would mean it that way.

Mozart: Because someone saw Drake say in chat that it will be all over by June, that adds about 8 days to the original timeline of 30-45 days. Reasonable enough. When he said they will be arrested one at a time I take it to mean that perhaps that is the tactic that they are finding is the most workable -- although I wouldn't be surprised if once in a while there might be a two-at-a-time happening as well. (smile)

EnergyGardener: I thought your encapsulation was excellent. I see nothing to correct there!

[DreamsInDigital]

Sure, Monsanto Too, if it doesn't become a smoking hole in the ground in the mean time. :laser:

Sweet dreams Dreams! I am off to beddie byes and hope to have sweet dreams too. I feel that way tonight after my Drake tonic.

Stan
The Angels/ET/EDs don't like Monsanto anymore than the rest of us, it's been in their sights for a while. Sweet dreams to you too, my friend.

[EnergyGardener]

Sure, Monsanto Too, if it doesn't become a smoking hole in the ground in the mean time. :laser:

Sweet dreams Dreams! I am off to beddie byes and hope to have sweet dreams too. I feel that way tonight after my Drake tonic.

Stan
The Angels/ET/EDs don't like Monsanto anymore than the rest of us, it's been in their sights for a while. Sweet dreams to you too, my friend.

Thanks, it was added. See you in the upper realms!:rapture:

[Avocadess]

I have a feeling we are going to feel burdens lifted that we have become so accustomed to feeling that it is going to be a VERY happy time coming on us here and soon...!!!

[KiwiElf]

Think about the ramifications ... the estimated dates that various people resign or get arrested (this should have its own thread, because it alone might get everyone's attention, I think I will create one):

That's a great idea EG, even a log of events as they are pending/verified would be good :)

[crosby]

i was not sure where to post this, but it may be part of the restructuring effort:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/19/illinois-city-official-accused-stealing-30m-from-taxpayers/?google_editors_picks=true

now, i am not a fan of fox news, but the first thing that popped into my mind was this thread.... and then it occurred to me that what if they spill the trouble over to the lower level theives first?
regards, corson

[crosby]

d3eDsWbf3Ao

this is in also from alex jones. he may not be speaking outright regarding drake and company, but i think he is doing everything that he can to pull the power into the inner circle. very interesting upload.
warmest regards, corson

[Kimberley]

Good morning from Jamaica Mon... everyting be irie..

I want to thank everyone for the brief summaries and such..it has been very helpful for me to try to keep up with limited internet.

I like the idea of the one to one arrests to get things started...ease up to it and it will help. Although selfishly, I was hoping I might get stranded in Jamaica :-).. oh well I guess I am needed at home. :-)

I continue to have very clear dreams that all is in perfect order and that we are almost out of the tunnel and the light is so beautifully bright when we emerge.

Much love to us all! ....from the island on One World One People One Love :grouphug:

[aranuk]

Good morning from Jamaica Mon... everyting be irie..

I want to thank everyone for the brief summaries and such..it has been very helpful for me to try to keep up with limited internet.

I like the idea of the one to one arrests to get things started...ease up to it and it will help. Although selfishly, I was hoping I might get stranded in Jamaica :-).. oh well I guess I am needed at home. :-)

I continue to have very clear dreams that all is in perfect order and that we are almost out of the tunnel and the light is so beautifully bright when we emerge.

Much love to us all! ....from the island on One World One People One Love :grouphug:

Remember Kimberley.......No woman no cry!

Stan

[Avocadess]

I think Drake talked about the Pope resigning and being brought up on criminal charges when he entered the conversation later in the show (a little more than 1 hour, 30 minutes into the 2-hour show). I have seen posted the first 5 min of what he said on YouTube but not the things he said in the ending part of the show. Anyone have a link to that?

[DreamsInDigital]

My friend and I were talking to one of my off world brothers last night, he's in 5D. Anyway, we asked what his thoughts were concerning this whole thing with Drake. I wanted to share part of what he said, "The people planning this are very clever." They're also in full support of Drake, the resistance movement, the positive army, the oath keepers and pentagon. Just wanted to pass that on.

[Dennis Leahy]

My friend and I were talking to one of my off world brothers last night, he's in 5D. Anyway, we asked what his thoughts were concerning this whole thing with Drake. I wanted to share part of what he said, "The people planning this are very clever." They're also in full support of Drake, the resistance movement, the positive army, the oath keepers and pentagon. Just wanted to pass that on.
Yeah, well ask them to sign The Reset Button too. :~)

Dennis

[xbusymom]

Sure, Monsanto Too, if it doesn't become a smoking hole in the ground in the mean time. :laser:

and don't forget the head of the FDA, too.

EDIT:

and big pharma...

[Avocadess]

The news that strikes me as incredibly significant is what Drake said about the Pope. Can anyone remember whether he said the Pope "will resign," "is resigning" or "has resigned"? (I don't follow mainstream press so if he already did I did not hear about it.) It seems to me that the Pope being arrested on criminal charges would turn much of the world upside down! I don't remember the percentage, but I seem to remember that Catholics represent a very large percentage of the world's population. Or am I remembering that wrong? I wonder how they will respond to such news?

[modwiz]

The news that strikes me as incredibly significant is what Drake said about the Pope. Can anyone remember whether he said the Pope "will resign," "is resigning" or "has resigned"? (I don't follow mainstream press so if he already did I did not hear about it.) It seems to me that the Pope being arrested on criminal charges would turn much of the world upside down! I don't remember the percentage, but I seem to remember that Catholics represent a very large percentage of the world's population. Or am I remembering that wrong? I wonder how they will respond to such news?

They will rend their garments and pour ashes over their heads.

Oh wait, wrong group. :jester:

I think they may drink lots of wine that is not blessed. Yeah, that's it!

Maybe not that either. :confused:

[KiwiElf]

The news that strikes me as incredibly significant is what Drake said about the Pope. Can anyone remember whether he said the Pope "will resign," "is resigning" or "has resigned"? (I don't follow mainstream press so if he already did I did not hear about it.) It seems to me that the Pope being arrested on criminal charges would turn much of the world upside down! I don't remember the percentage, but I seem to remember that Catholics represent a very large percentage of the world's population. Or am I remembering that wrong? I wonder how they will respond to such news?

Was referred to as near future event I think... "will resign soon". A resignation alone is likely to cause some "concern". An arrest or criminal charges would certainly be more "shocking" to the masses.

EDIT: And it could mean he will be "resigned"

If I recall, Fulford said months ago that Murdoch had now decided to work for the "good guys" (his only other option being jail time) and the Good Guys" are going to need control of some form of MSM to get their message out when the time comes.

Just a gut feeling at this time, but I think whatever goes down will be "handled well" (and I reserve the right to change my mind later ;))

[sdv]

A Pope does not resign! A Pope remains Pope until death, even if they have to prop him up comatose! Occasionally popes have been 'helped along' in death. I doubt that the Pope would be arrested. Remember that the Vatican is a sovereign state so you can't just walk in and arrest him. And who is going to arrest him and for what?

Drake seems to get so many facts wrong and those who believe him without question just let it all go whistling past their heads.

I love it that you all want the world to change, but you are all going to be very disappointed, or will simply believe all and every excuse given by Drake and DW (like definitely April, then 4 to 6 weeks, then the date changes again). Oh, and I checked the original interview and Drake said papers were delivered to the International Court of Justice in The Hague, the Civil Division. There is no such thing as a civil division, and I have explained at length why this whole story of papers being submitted is a hoax.

Oh well, when the whole Drake story fades away there will be another to take its place.