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RMorgan
27th April 2012, 20:38
Hey folks,

Iīve just posted it as a reply on another thread, but I think I have an important point here, that could lead to a interesting debate.

Thereīs always a hot alternative personality attracting a lot of attention here. Every couple of months, their names change, but they all have interesting theories and bold claims. Many of them share very similar views and ideas.

Do you know what really worries me about this alternative personalities that appear here from time to time?

I really donīt know if they are saying the truth or not, but all of them are so centered in USA specific problems, that for me it looks very suspicious.

Itīs all about the USA, every news, every claim, while, in fact, we have so many huge problems to be fixed all over the world, but no one talks about it.

For instance, Brazilian government just approved a new forest code/law, that will allow farmers to literally tear down the Amazon forest....

Also, they are building a new hydro-electric plant in Amazon, that will flood an area of 516 kmē of Amazon forest...And thereīs 30 more like this to come in the future!

It sounds like a huge problem for me, that will indeed affect the whole planet!

So why these guys only talk about arresting bankers and criminals, while we have huge, if not bigger problems to deal with right now? Why itīs always about the USA? Why itīs always about financial problems?

If thereīs indeed an organization so powerful as the White Dragons, White Hats or whatever, fighting against tyranny and corruption, why their strategies are so limited and narrowed down to a single country and its problems?

Now, as a Brazilian, I can just talk about Brazil, but I can imagine that a lot of other countries have similar huge problems that can affect the whole world and need to be dealt with asap.

How about the so called cabal or TBTP? Do you believe for a second that they are so stupid, that they would concentrate their powers and operations in a single country? I donīt buy that for a second.

This looks very suspicious for me. Since the US is the champion of counter intel strategies, I wouldnīt be surprised if it is the US Government who is spreading this "news" around the alternative media for a purpose, since these news are so targeted to US citizens.

The same thing happens with channelings...Itīs always about the US. Seems like even the ETs or other mystical entities canīt see our world in a more holistic way.

All of it looks very strange to me. Do you know when you fish, and you have different kinds of baits for different fish species? It looks like they are trying to fish US citizens, and made delicious red and white striped baits specifically tailored to them.

Lets assume, for instance, that a civil war starts in the US and all those civilian militias try to take over the power.

Do you have any doubt that the US government would win this war, with all their high-tech weapons and resources? Of course they would! Wars arenīt about guns anymore. They have jets, armed drones and a lot of deadly stuff that kill a lot of people with just a press of a button.

So wouldnīt it be the perfect excuse to proclaim an official fascist dictatorship and send every "subversive" citizen to these FEMA camps that, by the way, are already there?

I think that we have to be careful to what we wish. Before wishing something, we have to make sure this wish is rightfully ours, not brainwashed into our minds.

These mass arrests, secret society fighting for justice themes are getting spread by so many different persons right now, that Iīm starting to question if someone is just trying to force these ideas into our heads.

We have to question more. What if these mass arrests happen? Who is going to replace them? What kind of financial system will be implemented? Would it actually be better than the actual system, or would it be worse? Would we have more freedom, or would we have a much worse kind of slavery?

Could it all be just another step into the so feared new world order? Could we be walking into a trap, believing we are walking into a wonderful new world?

Well, by the strategic point of view, itīs a pretty good strategy.

We must remember that the world is the way it is today, because people wished for it. People wished to have all sorts of useless and superfluous things. People wished more and more, the wishes were granted and we ended up here in this mess.

Cheers,

Raf.

MMA_Fan
27th April 2012, 21:02
Great post RM.

99% of the alternative media focuses on the internal schizzle of the western world or how those policies impact another country.

Over the last 2 years I've slowly come to the conclusion that there is no one controlling force (Annunaki, Illuminati etc.), but a pattern of disinformation on the US and Europe.
Russia and the Islam fundamental states seem to perpetrate or magnify conspiracies through media such as Al-jazeera, Russia Today and PressTv.

Documentation already came to light that Russia planned to use conspiracy theories such as the moon landings and JFK assassinations against the USA.
The 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion' was another such document.
I feel this is still going on today and members of the alternative community may be agents (knowingly or not).

So yes, we should be careful wanting martial law, mass arrests etc. because they are the hallmarks of fascism and socialism.

(And I haven't forgotten about the BBC either;))

This article is worth a read too;
Russian propaganda (http://www.topsecretwriters.com/2011/01/russia-attempts-to-spread-lies-and-propaganda-on-conspiracy-sites/)

Neptun
27th April 2012, 21:23
I don't understand this point of view.

The New World Order is a global force that controls most countries. They are also in control of Denmark, danish media and politicians etc.

Since US is their favorite toy at the moment they use for global enslavement, the battle is concentrated in the US.

We have to work together worldwide to defeat the NWO.

The New World Order explained by themselves:
lDbgDRNmhYs

Their manipulation guide:
http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/sw4qw/

Sun Tzu - The Art of War:
"If you know the enemy
and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a
hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy,
for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat.
If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will
succumb in every battle."

dan i el
27th April 2012, 21:39
this new film should be a big hit in India:

hNXHveyzUvY

Nickolai
27th April 2012, 21:52
Dear MMA_FAN,

Please tell us (me) more about the Russia conspiracies against the EU and the States.
I am lost here. It's everyone's knowledge that the States try (and do) circle Russia with the nukes.
The States is the most aggressive and brutal force in the world right now, so I am lost here.
Please give me more information that the RT provides unsupported info.
Enlighten me, seriously.

Thank you,

Nickolai

Neptun
27th April 2012, 21:56
Dear MMA_FAN,

Please tell us (me) more about the Russia conspiracies against the EU and the States.
I am lost here. It's everyone's knowledge that the States try (and do) circle Russia with the nukes.
The States is the most aggressive and brutal force in the world right now, so I am lost here.
Please give me more information that the RT provides unsupported info.
Enlighten me, seriously.

Thank you,

Nickolai

Russia is a strong force against NWO. I really love RT!

I think Putin is one of the good guys. Notice he does not show the Satanic handsign as King of Jordan:
http://educate-yourself.lege.net/lte/abdullah_satan_sign293h.jpg

foreverfan
27th April 2012, 21:57
Hey folks,

Iīve just posted it as a reply on another thread, but I think I have an important point here, that could lead to a interesting debate.

Thereīs always a hot alternative personality attracting a lot of attention here. Every couple of months, their names change, but they all have interesting theories and bold claims. Many of them share very similar views and ideas.

Do you know what really worries me about this alternative personalities that appear here from time to time?

I really donīt know if they are saying the truth or not, but all of them are so centered in USA specific problems, that for me it looks very suspicious.

Itīs all about the USA, every news, every claim, while, in fact, we have so many huge problems to be fixed all over the world, but no one talks about it.

For instance, Brazilian government just approved a new forest code/law, that will allow farmers to literally tear down the Amazon forest....

Also, they are building a new hydro-electric plant in Amazon, that will flood an area of 516 kmē of Amazon forest...And thereīs 30 more like this to come in the future!

It sounds like a huge problem for me, that will indeed affect the whole planet!

So why these guys only talk about arresting bankers and criminals, while we have huge, if not bigger problems to deal with right now? Why itīs always about the USA? Why itīs always about financial problems?

If thereīs indeed an organization so powerful as the White Dragons, White Hats or whatever, fighting against tyranny and corruption, why their strategies are so limited and narrowed down to a single country and its problems?

Now, as a Brazilian, I can just talk about Brazil, but I can imagine that a lot of other countries have similar huge problems that can affect the whole world and need to be dealt with asap.

How about the so called cabal or TBTP? Do you believe for a second that they are so stupid, that they would concentrate their powers and operations in a single country? I donīt buy that for a second.

This looks very suspicious for me. Since the US is the champion of counter intel strategies, I wouldnīt be surprised if it is the US Government who is spreading this "news" around the alternative media for a purpose, since these news are so targeted to US citizens.

The same thing happens with channelings...Itīs always about the US. Seems like even the ETs or other mystical entities canīt see our world in a more holistic way.

All of it looks very strange to me. Do you know when you fish, and you have different kinds of baits for different fish species? It looks like they are trying to fish US citizens, and made delicious red and white striped baits specifically tailored to them.

Lets assume, for instance, that a civil war starts in the US and all those civilian militias try to take over the power.

Do you have any doubt that the US government would win this war, with all their high-tech weapons and resources? Of course they would! Wars arenīt about guns anymore. They have jets, armed drones and a lot of deadly stuff that kill a lot of people with just a press of a button.

So wouldnīt it be the perfect excuse to proclaim an official fascist dictatorship and send every "subversive" citizen to these FEMA camps that, by the way, are already there?

I think that we have to be careful to what we wish. Before wishing something, we have to make sure this wish is rightfully ours, not brainwashed into our minds.

These mass arrests, secret society fighting for justice themes are getting spread by so many different persons right now, that Iīm starting to question if someone is just trying to force these ideas into our heads.

We have to question more. What if these mass arrests happen? Who is going to replace them? What kind of financial system will be implemented? Would it actually be better than the actual system, or would it be worse? Would we have more freedom, or would we have a much worse kind of slavery?

Could it all be just another step into the so feared new world order? Could we be walking into a trap, believing we are walking into a wonderful new world?

Well, by the strategic point of view, itīs a pretty good strategy.

We must remember that the world is the way it is today, because people wished for it. People wished to have all sorts of useless and superfluous things. People wished more and more, the wishes were granted and we ended up here in this mess.

Cheers,

Raf.

90% of the US Military is for Ron Paul. Many have gone on record saying that they won't do this to American citizens. This ain't gonna happen in the US without foreign troops. The world is too smart for that now.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gd53qcJPvyM/TPj8KwpI1iI/AAAAAAAAAq4/kjNPfaXrm-M/s1600/when_the_****_hits_the_fan_3215952.jpg

Neptun
27th April 2012, 22:22
foreverfan,

If it wasn't for the US Patriots, we would already have a chip up in our ass!

Thank you guys for being the Nr. 1 force against the NWO!

:usa2:

kersley
27th April 2012, 22:53
RMorgan makes a good point. This is a world problem not just a US problem..
I have heard many whistleblowers only speak of what's happening in the US. What about the rest of us?

I certainly don't know what is the latest news in Brazil or any other part of the world but here in the UK.
This is where RMorgan is gonna start a new thread called latest world news. And we're all expected to report from all over about what's going on..
RMorgan.. is this OK with you? Thanks

jorr lundstrom
27th April 2012, 22:55
Well Raf, I see the US just as a petri disc. We have a lot of huge
problems all over the world today. There are two things that must
happen. An economic collapse, without any other economic system
taking over and the total collapse of mind as such. Mind has started
collapsing, among those who are ripe for it and can handle this.
For the rest of it to collapse it seems like necessary to collapse the
economy. These happenings will make all those crazy projects
worldwide useless and of no value.
If this wont happen we can look forward to an existense without
any higher functions like those "rumpnissar" in the video below.
They are just confused,full of questionings and no conclusions,
almost like people with alzheimers.
Maybe not so bad if we get there, but getting there might be painful.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEKmjOU9C-M&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEKmjOU9C-M&feature=related


All is well


Jorr 2.0

WhiteFeather
27th April 2012, 23:15
Good Point RMorgan. If I may elaborate. The reason why The Corporation Of The United States of LaLa Land seem to be involved firstly is because they patrol the world. And are backed by the corporate dark sided entitities. Known as Black, Hidden or Secret Ops. There are over 800 military bases scattered around the globe. Its that simple. They have there rotten and clammy hands into everything.. Eventually its gonna bite them in their greedy fat asses. And i cant wait. Karmas gonna be a bitch. This im sure of. This place is giving me the creeps to say the least.
People here in America walk around like Zombies. Theres some hope......As the children of the sun begin to awake. Consciousness is Everything! And Its time to turn this hijacked ship around and head to home port at Godspeed.


W.f.

Snoweagle
27th April 2012, 23:24
The Global Elite plan to entrap the worlds population into perpetual debt by destroying the planet and taxing the basic elements
Earth - all land belongs to the Queen under the UN
Wind - weather control
Fire - carbon taxes, energy debt
Water - destroying global water tables and building huge aquifers by damming or flooding quality agricultural regions
Ether - HAARP, scalar energy
The Global Elite are even destroying the oceans; the French continuously discharge hundreds of spent nuclear fuel rods in the oceans, the Swiss shareholders of BP successfully destroyed the Gulf of Mexico as a food source, South China seas, North sea, the list is endless.
Same can be said through every country in Africa and pretty much every damn country listed at the UN.

And we appear powerless to stop them

RMorgan
27th April 2012, 23:41
Good Point RMorgan. If I may elaborate. The reason why The Corporation Of The United States of LaLa Land seem to be involved firstly is because they patrol the world. And are backed by the corporate dark sided entitities. Known as Black, Hidden or Secret Ops. There are over 800 military bases scattered around the globe. Its that simple. They have there rotten and clammy hands into everything.. Eventually its gonna bite them in their greedy fat asses. And i cant wait. Karmas gonna be a bitch. This im sure of. This place is giving me the creeps to say the least.
People here in America walk around like Zombies. Theres some hope......As the children of the sun begin to awake. Consciousness is Everything! And Its time to turn this hijacked ship around and head to home port at Godspeed.


W.f.


Hi my friend,

Weīre full of zombies here as well mate. People here are becoming so stupid, so fast, that an average intelligent guy is often considered a genius.

I guess "zombification" is the new sign of "development".

You know, I work at home, home office style. I donīt even like to go to the streets anymore. It give me the creeps as well.

Whenever I need to get out, I do what I have to do as quickly as possible and go back home fast.

Itīs the TV man...Iīm sure itīs the TV. Whenever I watch five minutes of it, I already feel my brain getting dumber!

Cheers,

Raf.

Eram
27th April 2012, 23:49
Hi my friend,

Weīre full of zombies here as well mate. People here are becoming so stupid, so fast, that an average intelligent guy is often considered a genius.

I guess "zombification" is the new sign of "development".

You know, I work at home, home office style. I donīt even like to go to the streets anymore. It give me the creeps as well.

Whenever I need to get out, I do what I have to do as quickly as possible and go back home fast.

Itīs the TV man...Iīm sure itīs the TV. Whenever I watch five minutes of it, I already feel my brain getting dumber!

Cheers,

Raf.

This is what I did with it

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_iXhiaxD0Kv4/SePM-NAt7mI/AAAAAAAAAFg/GF6DnoS9s7Y/s320/Throw_out_TV-1.jpg

jorr lundstrom
27th April 2012, 23:55
Zombification, good label. Working as hell, buying all
unnecessary things, spending your free hours in the TV sofa.
This is the highest goals today. Voila

I do hope the economy collapse asap. That will be like a torch
in the zombies a""es. LOL


All is well


Jorr 2.0

Neptun
28th April 2012, 00:21
Zombification, good label. Working as hell, buying all
unnecessary things, spending your free hours in the TV sofa.
This is the highest goals today. Voila

I do hope the economy collapse asap. That will be like a torch
in the zombies a""es. LOL


All is well


Jorr 2.0

It's easy for you to say when you are having fun out in nowhere on a svensk ödemark. But what if 100.000 hungry TV zombie swedes pay you a visit? They will not all be in the city and die.

I feel sorry for all those TV zombies and don't want to see them hurt.

jorr lundstrom
28th April 2012, 00:42
Zombification, good label. Working as hell, buying all
unnecessary things, spending your free hours in the TV sofa.
This is the highest goals today. Voila

I do hope the economy collapse asap. That will be like a torch
in the zombies a""es. LOL


All is well


Jorr 2.0

It's easy for you to say when you are having fun out in nowhere on a svensk ödemark. But what if 100.000 hungry TV zombie swedes pay you a visit? They will not all be in the city and die.

I feel sorry for all those TV zombies and don't want to see them hurt.

I live 8 km from a city, along a big road, so please dont speak of
swedish ödemark, if you dont know wot youre speaking about.
Im sure if the economy collapses, the zombies wont be in the cities and
die. I will have a couple of hundred in my garden eating carrots from
the lands. Feel free to feel sorry for whosoever you like. Projected
selfpityness is easily detected. If sth like an economic collapse wont
happen, they will turn to mummies in front of their TV sets ie their
"weapons of massdeception." But of course you can wish for anything
you like, wishing wont cost you anything.


All is well


Jorr 2.0

RUSirius
28th April 2012, 00:47
I believe even in the alternative media we are lied to, I agree we are dealing with some extremely intelligent bastards here, that have anything but our best interest in mind, and we should know they are penetrating every aspect of our current reality. I remain hopeful...I have too, I believe there has been enough consistent information from many different sources that have nothing to do with one and other, that even if 30% of the good info is true, its some damn good stuff. Is it possible TPTB/W have thought this thing through more than I can imagine? YES!, but I remain hopeful, and am working on myself...

Neptun
28th April 2012, 01:12
Zombification, good label. Working as hell, buying all
unnecessary things, spending your free hours in the TV sofa.
This is the highest goals today. Voila

I do hope the economy collapse asap. That will be like a torch
in the zombies a""es. LOL


All is well


Jorr 2.0

It's easy for you to say when you are having fun out in nowhere on a svensk ödemark. But what if 100.000 hungry TV zombie swedes pay you a visit? They will not all be in the city and die.

I feel sorry for all those TV zombies and don't want to see them hurt.

I live 8 km from a city, along a big road, so please dont speak of
swedish ödemark, if you dont know wot youre speaking about.
Im sure if the economy collapses, the zombies wont be in the cities and
die. I will have a couple of hundred in my garden eating carrots from
the lands. Feel free to feel sorry for whosoever you like. Projected
selfpityness is easily detected. If sth like an economic collapse wont
happen, they will turn to mummies in front of their TV sets ie their
"weapons of massdeception." But of course you can wish for anything
you like, wishing wont cost you anything.


All is well


Jorr 2.0

I don't feel self pity. I will survive this. I will move to a forest if I had to. I have already studied surviving skills. If I die, it will not matter. I don't fear death. I know my soul is eternal and I will reunion with my family on the other side, before I get a new body,

What ever happens. Nothing to fear.

I feel sorry for those that are not prepared and don't know what to do. I can feel how it must feel like. I don't want that to happen to them.

If you don't feel compassion for them. That will be fine with me. At least it is honest.

NewFounderHome
28th April 2012, 01:25
Well where still waiting for the mass arrest to be almost finished. Since it's not even started there is a long why to go.

jorr lundstrom
28th April 2012, 01:27
Neptun wrote:


I don't feel self pity. I will survive this. I will move to a forest if I had to. I have already studied surviving skills.

I feel sorry for those that are not prepared and don't know what to do. I can feel how it must feel like.


Its ok if you can convince yourself. Do you think feeling sorry for
anyone will in any way support anyone? Or get anyone prepared?
No statues are raised fro the Godess of Necessity, yet. But she is
a great teacher, maybe the best.


http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt81/sakasvattaja/inanna1.jpg


All is well


Jorr 2.0

Neptun
28th April 2012, 01:31
Neptun wrote:


I don't feel self pity. I will survive this. I will move to a forest if I had to. I have already studied surviving skills.

I feel sorry for those that are not prepared and don't know what to do. I can feel how it must feel like.


Its ok if you can convince yourself. Do you think feeling sorry for
anyone will in any way support anyone? Or get anyone prepared?
No statues are raised fro the Godess of Necessity, yet. But she is
a great teacher, maybe the best.


http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt81/sakasvattaja/inanna1.jpg


All is well


Jorr 2.0


I have dedicated my life to deal with NWO and I have done allot to wake up people and confront those on the other side. I have written in another thread how much I have done. If I didn't care about other people I would have done nothing and only focused on my own survival.

jorr lundstrom
28th April 2012, 01:39
Neptun wrote:


I don't feel self pity. I will survive this. I will move to a forest if I had to. I have already studied surviving skills.

I feel sorry for those that are not prepared and don't know what to do. I can feel how it must feel like.


Its ok if you can convince yourself. Do you think feeling sorry for
anyone will in any way support anyone? Or get anyone prepared?
No statues are raised fro the Godess of Necessity, yet. But she is
a great teacher, maybe the best.


http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt81/sakasvattaja/inanna1.jpg


All is well


Jorr 2.0


I have dedicated my life to deal with NWO and I have done allot to wake up people and confront those on the other side. I have written in another thread how much I have done. If I didn't care about other people I would have done nothing and only focused on my own survival.



Ok, wotsoever..........................


All is well


Jorr 2.0

Neptun
28th April 2012, 01:41
Neptun wrote:


I don't feel self pity. I will survive this. I will move to a forest if I had to. I have already studied surviving skills.

I feel sorry for those that are not prepared and don't know what to do. I can feel how it must feel like.


Its ok if you can convince yourself. Do you think feeling sorry for
anyone will in any way support anyone? Or get anyone prepared?
No statues are raised fro the Godess of Necessity, yet. But she is
a great teacher, maybe the best.


http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt81/sakasvattaja/inanna1.jpg


All is well


Jorr 2.0


I have dedicated my life to deal with NWO and I have done allot to wake up people and confront those on the other side. I have written in another thread how much I have done. If I didn't care about other people I would have done nothing and only focused on my own survival.



Ok, wotsoever..........................


All is well


Jorr 2.0

No hard feelings

aranuk
28th April 2012, 01:54
Neptun wrote:


I don't feel self pity. I will survive this. I will move to a forest if I had to. I have already studied surviving skills.

I feel sorry for those that are not prepared and don't know what to do. I can feel how it must feel like.


Its ok if you can convince yourself. Do you think feeling sorry for
anyone will in any way support anyone? Or get anyone prepared?
No statues are raised fro the Godess of Necessity, yet. But she is
a great teacher, maybe the best.


http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt81/sakasvattaja/inanna1.jpg


All is well


Jorr 2.0

Jorr she looks absolutely gorgeous!

Stan

jorr lundstrom
28th April 2012, 01:54
i apologize Raf, for this slight derailing of the thread, but my
BS- meter was activated and I let myself get carried away.

:focus:


All is well


Jorr 2.0

Cilka
28th April 2012, 03:12
Hey folks,

Iīve just posted it as a reply on another thread, but I think I have an important point here, that could lead to a interesting debate.

Thereīs always a hot alternative personality attracting a lot of attention here. Every couple of months, their names change, but they all have interesting theories and bold claims. Many of them share very similar views and ideas.

Do you know what really worries me about this alternative personalities that appear here from time to time?

I really donīt know if they are saying the truth or not, but all of them are so centered in USA specific problems, that for me it looks very suspicious.

Itīs all about the USA, every news, every claim, while, in fact, we have so many huge problems to be fixed all over the world, but no one talks about it.

For instance, Brazilian government just approved a new forest code/law, that will allow farmers to literally tear down the Amazon forest....

Also, they are building a new hydro-electric plant in Amazon, that will flood an area of 516 kmē of Amazon forest...And thereīs 30 more like this to come in the future!

It sounds like a huge problem for me, that will indeed affect the whole planet!

So why these guys only talk about arresting bankers and criminals, while we have huge, if not bigger problems to deal with right now? Why itīs always about the USA? Why itīs always about financial problems?

If thereīs indeed an organization so powerful as the White Dragons, White Hats or whatever, fighting against tyranny and corruption, why their strategies are so limited and narrowed down to a single country and its problems?

Now, as a Brazilian, I can just talk about Brazil, but I can imagine that a lot of other countries have similar huge problems that can affect the whole world and need to be dealt with asap.

How about the so called cabal or TBTP? Do you believe for a second that they are so stupid, that they would concentrate their powers and operations in a single country? I donīt buy that for a second.

This looks very suspicious for me. Since the US is the champion of counter intel strategies, I wouldnīt be surprised if it is the US Government who is spreading this "news" around the alternative media for a purpose, since these news are so targeted to US citizens.

The same thing happens with channelings...Itīs always about the US. Seems like even the ETs or other mystical entities canīt see our world in a more holistic way.

All of it looks very strange to me. Do you know when you fish, and you have different kinds of baits for different fish species? It looks like they are trying to fish US citizens, and made delicious red and white striped baits specifically tailored to them.

Lets assume, for instance, that a civil war starts in the US and all those civilian militias try to take over the power.

Do you have any doubt that the US government would win this war, with all their high-tech weapons and resources? Of course they would! Wars arenīt about guns anymore. They have jets, armed drones and a lot of deadly stuff that kill a lot of people with just a press of a button.

So wouldnīt it be the perfect excuse to proclaim an official fascist dictatorship and send every "subversive" citizen to these FEMA camps that, by the way, are already there?

I think that we have to be careful to what we wish. Before wishing something, we have to make sure this wish is rightfully ours, not brainwashed into our minds.

These mass arrests, secret society fighting for justice themes are getting spread by so many different persons right now, that Iīm starting to question if someone is just trying to force these ideas into our heads.

We have to question more. What if these mass arrests happen? Who is going to replace them? What kind of financial system will be implemented? Would it actually be better than the actual system, or would it be worse? Would we have more freedom, or would we have a much worse kind of slavery?

Could it all be just another step into the so feared new world order? Could we be walking into a trap, believing we are walking into a wonderful new world?

Well, by the strategic point of view, itīs a pretty good strategy.

We must remember that the world is the way it is today, because people wished for it. People wished to have all sorts of useless and superfluous things. People wished more and more, the wishes were granted and we ended up here in this mess.

Cheers,

Raf.

I agree with you RMorgan, people should be careful what they wish for; I strongly do believe that we create our own reality. I think the reason why there is so much attention being directed towards USA is because the US is the root cause of all these New WOrld Order changes that are being utilized globally. I could be wrong, but I think that the NWO plan has originated mostly in the US, with the help of course the Nazis during World War 2, and that's why the blame is being directed there.

I was born in ex-Czechoslovakia and no one here talks about the many issues that both, Czech republic and SLovakia, are dealing with. I look at it this way, those who own the US, also own Slovakia or Brazil or Germany, it does not really matter where you live, they already own you. And the rules that they have created apply to all of us globally. If their power diminishes one day, we, the people of this planet, need to make sure that no other bastards take over their roles. We have made huge mistakes in this role before, so the chances are that we will, excuse my language, fu-k again, and will once again replace the psychos with psychos with different faces. Another problem humans have is that they don't look at planet Earth as an entity with consciousness of its own; most people consider Earth to be a useful land of opportunity and so humans treat it as a property.

Also I think that one of our worst mistakes, we, humans, are doing, is that we don't work together jointly for one common purpose, and that one common purpose should be, for all of us, to have the right to live on this planet in peace and prosperity for all. Life truly does not have to be so miserable like it is today. People wished it to be like that.

Too many humans are caught up in their own personal problems which have been carefully created by those few in power. This says a lot about humans, that they truly cannot think for themselves, they don't even want to figure out where the problems originated and for what purpose. Keep the human minds busy with surviving and they won't care who will save the forest in Brazil, for instance. We are in a big poop, but it does not mean that we cannot get out of it. Anything is possible, but few people cannot do this on their own, it has to be the effort of majority of us. Can this be done? Maybe, maybe not.

Space_Ace
28th April 2012, 06:16
There is no harm in positive thoughts! Once the mass arrests begin and are successful, everything else shall fall in place and we can make the Mayans prophecy of a golden age true!

jorr lundstrom
28th April 2012, 06:23
There is no harm in positive thoughts! Once the mass arrests begin and are successful, everything else shall fall in place and we can make the Mayans prophecy of a golden age true!


My book on the Mayan prophesy by Carl Johan Calleman doesnt
mention any mass arrests. Maybe its mentioned elsewhere in
in the prophesies.


All is well


Jorr 2.0

crosby
28th April 2012, 06:31
sjCw3-YTffoi wish everyone would just stop talking, or writing...... just for a minute. just to get a concept on their ideas. just to see that that perhaps they do have something to talk about.
corson

Jorr, are you a famous author?

Space_Ace
28th April 2012, 07:40
There is no harm in positive thoughts! Once the mass arrests begin and are successful, everything else shall fall in place and we can make the Mayans prophecy of a golden age true!
My book on the Mayan prophesy by Carl Johan Calleman doesnt
mention any mass arrests. Maybe its mentioned elsewhere in
in the prophesies. All is well
Jorr 2.0

Mass arrests are pretty much a must if we are to head into a golden age. :)

cloudno7
28th April 2012, 07:49
@RMorgan ... pretty much sums up what i think :). Why always USA or the western world only ???

Borders and Boundaries, Rules and regulations ... Illusions

D-Day
28th April 2012, 07:52
There is no harm in positive thoughts! Once the mass arrests begin and are successful, everything else shall fall in place and we can make the Mayans prophecy of a golden age true!
My book on the Mayan prophesy by Carl Johan Calleman doesnt
mention any mass arrests. Maybe its mentioned elsewhere in
in the prophesies. All is well
Jorr 2.0

Mass arrests are pretty much a must if we are to head into a golden age. :)

Mass delusion is not. :)

MMA_Fan
28th April 2012, 09:07
Dear MMA_FAN,

Please tell us (me) more about the Russia conspiracies against the EU and the States.
I am lost here. It's everyone's knowledge that the States try (and do) circle Russia with the nukes.
The States is the most aggressive and brutal force in the world right now, so I am lost here.
Please give me more information that the RT provides unsupported info.
Enlighten me, seriously.

Thank you,

Nickolai

Hi Nikolai,

To be honest I'm not sure where to start. This took me two years to arrive at this conclusion.
Bear in mind that RT is Russia state owned and sponsored.

Hillary Clinton the information war (notice the tone and words used by RT as well);
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Calibre of guests (If you know about these guys you will see where I'm coming from);
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BTW I don't think it's solely Russia Today putting out propaganda - all news sources do in my opinion.

christian
28th April 2012, 10:41
I really donīt know if they are saying the truth or not, but all of them are so centered in USA specific problems, that for me it looks very suspicious.

Itīs all about the USA, every news, every claim, while, in fact, we have so many huge problems to be fixed all over the world, but no one talks about it.

A large portion of the power structure of the cabal is situated in the US. Changes there would create a ripple effect, that would almost automatically solve problems all over the world. When the cabal looses its power, they stop keeping nations in an artificial state of poverty and low development. Besides that, Fulford for example, whether he is for real or not, frequently talks about ending environmental destruction all over the world and creating a decent living standard for every person on earth.

Of course, it's good to be aware of whats going on around the world and I love hearing stories from people from many different countries, but the single largest nationality-group on this forum are US citizens, so it's no suprise, that most of the issues brought up here are related to the US.

DarMar
28th April 2012, 11:13
Very good tread m8!
Also i noticed same pattern here on forum as on the news so i also know 'they' are here also. Matrix programms is self developed and spreading like somekind of virus, it is very well written.
Along all that you said and i agree with it, did you maybe noticed manifestation part?
That blabering and pointles dark nwo talks start to manifest along some people.
On end i have to spend more quality time here also to read some usefull thoughts and opinions more and more. From all those look at this spaceship on youtube, smiling cat vids, or which alien race are you talks.. Treads like this are tremendous if you have better look a bit while constructive talks beign pushed deeper..
Thats one of reasons i came to visit PA less and less cause im really not interested in hugs and cute teddy bears but rather in constructive solutions and thoughts. Also i KNOW that is not by accident.

Often i ask some of people 'why do you watch TV?'.. most often answer is: 'i dont really watch it, it is just turned on while i do something else in background' .. wll that is more dangerous than keepeing attention to it. why? Simple because all that data enters int subconscious mind without any processing and filtering part. Later it can manifest in many ways but one of them would be linking teddy bear in a place that isnt meant to be linked woth such posts. And many more.

Yes you got it right to point, that is called distraction and is done well. Here in Croatia there are many problems and most US wont even hear from it. Many dont know that Cro is actually on world map positioned in exact centre of world. Many dont know that actually here started past world wars. It seems pretty big info to me when i think about it. And you cant even read about it on wiki nor see it on youtube.
I was always stressing that DW and BF dont actually do light work but quite opposite. Thats one of reason why i never clicked on ANY of Drake threads. Who the flick is that Drake, financial saviour?
Oh yes, we will browse internet and he will save us from financial tiranny, right. Kewl so we can relax and link moar of cute teddy bear threads and relax cause Drake will save our world, all we have to do is nothing!

Neptun
28th April 2012, 11:15
New World Order is like a large corporation like MacDonald's.
http://billedeupload.dk/images/xIjCJ.jpg

The happy owner of the poison burgers. Ray Kroc:
http://www.whale.to/b/mcdonalds-sign.jpg

NWO runs countries like MacDonnal's. They have a HQ in one country and have many branches in other countries.

They control most countries politicians, media, banking system, central banks etc.
They use infiltration to get control of the key central positions in a country to control everything.

Since US is the most powerful country, it is logic to focus on the US. What happens to US will effect all of us. That's why it makes perfect sense, we all work together and support the Americans no matter if we are from Russia, Europe or China.

Commodities is traded in dollars. That means when the US prints money out of thin air, it will vampire the entire global economy.
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I think, you guys need to study the fundamental things about the New World Order.

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Obama deception:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

Fall of the republic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU

America freedom to fascism:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6ayb02bwp0

What is money(The American dream):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6vi528gseA

DarMar
28th April 2012, 11:26
New World Order is like a large corporation like MacDonald's.
Neptun,

in actuality if people would give em zero money and zero credibility thay actually would be zero, right?
Why actually you have need to have masters to control us? Is it too early to take own actions and responsibility?

Neptun
28th April 2012, 11:32
DarMar,

I quot many times, Sun Tzu - The Art of War..


If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles.

If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat.

If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.

We got to know ourselves and the "enemy" to defeat them, otherwise we are manipulated fools digging our own graves.

I think, this might be the reason why some people don't take action and don't know what to do. They lack information about what the enemy is and where the enemy has weak spots.

First step is to do allot of research and compare information with others to get it right.

Next step is to use controlled attacks in the Matrix and share tactics with others. When we work alone, we will not be compromised. Groups can be taken over by the NWO and they can't deal with solo info-warriors. When we get used to working alone and figure things out on our own instead of being told what to do or what to think - Things will change fast!

You can attack the Matrix in your home country. I do that all the time.

We are extremely powerful beings and we have to discover that!

We also have to on a personal level seek as much freedom as we can. 1 step at the time.
The more freedom we get, the stronger we are and can do more to bring down the NWO.

There are many things we can do. An easy freedom we can take back: Instead of brushing our teeth in fluoride, use non fluoride toothpaste.

Throw the TV out NOW!

Harder one: Don't work for a boss. Be your own boss and be able to work from everywhere on the planet and don't pay for your own enslavement(taxes).

New World Order is weak and we can defeat this. But more people have to take action.

DarMar
28th April 2012, 12:23
oooo I soooo love Sun Tzu, a really nice book to read which i would reccomend to most people out there and I agree a really nice quote.

What i did on my personal level is learned alot, first about me than about world arround me. There is always more and almoust limited resources to learn from but thing that im trying to stress here should be even more obvious.
Their work is done through manifestation of an idea. The more you believe that is actuality the more it is. They gain credibility through implanting ideas in movies, songs, books and general media. What needs to be manifested is that people actually accept and confirm that idea, than it becomes manifested, cause ultimate creator of our reality are WE, only us.
Keep eyes wide open my friend and learn, take all that in consideration, from Alex C., Phil S. and earliest whistleblowers till today, look at humman acceptance and mass behaviour, a collapse to be more precise.
Is that what 'they' want and how do they do that?
Simple...
They don't!
We do that work for them..
They plant seed and we grow a plant from it, isnt that kinda obvious fact?

The most funny part is linking NWO vids here as a proof cause i bet atleast 99% of members here know what is NWO, who is CIA, who is Obama, Bush, what are masons...
What we actually get from it in this small ccircle of society on PA forum.. we get constant loop.
In other words.. Yes im tottaly aware of what you saying bro, ima aware of that video, im aware of cabal, ive seen thousands of problem videos!

Sadly rarely i see solution offering or idea.
Why we spin in loop?
Well i say thats the idea, thats why you will sooo many reptilian vids, NWO vids and conspiracy's on youtube and net. In this actuality time is precious element, are you shure we should spend it running in loop?

Neptun
28th April 2012, 12:31
DarMar,

I agree with you they use our powers against ourselves by promoting the same idea/ belief system.

Let me give an example. When they promote Global Warming is a threat to humanity and we have to give up our rights and money to them to solve the problem. They manifest a prison, we build by our ignorance.

When we watch a truth -movie about global warming is a scam. We don't play their manifestation game any longer. The key out of the prison is to know how we are being manipulated, help others understand it too and take back our freedoms (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44409-Freedoms-we-can-take-back-now-).

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent(we are close to here), for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Joseph Goebbels

“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you,(we are here) then they fight you, then you win.”

Mahatma Gandhi

Then they fight us, before we win
USSR rhetoric:
"Climate Change Skepticism a Sickness That Must be “Treated,” Says Professor"
http://www.infowars.com/climate-change-skepticism-a-sickness-that-must-be-treated-says-professor/

wynderer
28th April 2012, 13:09
perhaps the focus is on the USA because we have a lot of really good weapons , & because we made one of the earliest treaties w/the invading ETs -- We the People were sold out for weapons & mind control technology

in 1976, our Bicentennial year, i had a vision about my country which i wrote up -- it was published in the Christian Science monitor & then in an A.R.E. [Edgar Cayce place] booklet -- in my vision i saw that my country was spiritually intended to be a beacon, a symbol, a living example of Freedom to the rest of the world

if we fall, the rest of the Western world will go down w/us

Titan Orion
28th April 2012, 13:29
Hey folks,

Iīve just posted it as a reply on another thread, but I think I have an important point here, that could lead to a interesting debate.

Thereīs always a hot alternative personality attracting a lot of attention here. Every couple of months, their names change, but they all have interesting theories and bold claims. Many of them share very similar views and ideas.

Do you know what really worries me about this alternative personalities that appear here from time to time?

I really donīt know if they are saying the truth or not, but all of them are so centered in USA specific problems, that for me it looks very suspicious.

Itīs all about the USA, every news, every claim, while, in fact, we have so many huge problems to be fixed all over the world, but no one talks about it.


I havent been keeping up to date recently on the forums here but I think its a very interesting point. I think since 9/11 most of our attention has been drawn to America so all it would really take is for TPTB to set up another plan where America LOOKS like its current weapon of choice, continuing what us people think are trends in their agenda whereas they might well have moved their own attention elsewhere.
I watched something on TV a while ago about the economy where it was said that Brazil, Russia, India and China were set to become the next big names in the economic arena, and the TV program spoke about how Englands government was trying to adapt to this; Chinese was going to be taught in schools to encourage the next generation to be interested in China and help build connections between China and England. And since that program, even the place I work at (which is a ridiculously small company) has been recieving countless emails from Chinese companies to build partnerships.

Keeps making me think of that Anglo-Saxon Mission video Bill made.

So yea. I have a suspiscion China might be the next move with regard to TPTB.

deridan
28th April 2012, 16:09
Hey folks,
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So wouldnīt it be the perfect excuse to proclaim an official fascist dictatorship and send every "subversive" citizen to these FEMA camps that, by the way, are already there?

I think that we have to be careful to what we wish. Before wishing something, we have to make sure this wish is rightfully ours, not brainwashed into our minds.

These mass arrests, secret society fighting for justice themes are getting spread by so many different persons right now, that Iīm starting to question if someone is just trying to force these ideas into our heads.

We have to question more. What if these mass arrests happen? Who is going to replace them? What kind of financial system will be implemented? Would it actually be better than the actual system, or would it be worse? Would we have more freedom, or would we have a much worse kind of slavery?

Could it all be just another step into the so feared new world order? Could we be walking into a trap, believing we are walking into a wonderful new world?

Well, by the strategic point of view, itīs a pretty good strategy.

We must remember that the world is the way it is today, because people wished for it. People wished to have all sorts of useless and superfluous things. People wished more and more, the wishes were granted and we ended up here in this mess.

Cheers,

Raf.

I agree that more focus should be given to WHAT the alternate system should be.
The media system is like baits for what people want.
Sometimes we forget that media is more about creating an atmosphere of agreement.
(like one needs a good concrete foundation for a house,...so somewhere in subspace it may be that 'certain leaders of information' are trying to create enough agreement __, by discreetly and directly reiterating what we desire.., but have a switch against its materialization by thinking its not possible,..the 'leader' merely says it is possible
...the idea of leaders and followers is a false dichotomy)

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here's a bit of a brain puzzle. Chemtrails. theory has it that it stops spiritual ascension. since america is to my knowledge the only place this happens... say the Ascension time period comes (waves striking the earth). in the aftermath,
everyone in the world is ascended except America. like humans and apes the two groups are in comparison. So have the Amer-strategists shot themselves in the foot, ... they have inadvertently made themselves last in the world.

Also another brain puzzle. Say the nwo has their world armageddon. then to the survivors they release there current hidden technology.
we are now intergalactic ,so to speak, but now the brilliant strategists sit with another problem.... there are actually too-few people

are they planning right? or is it merely that a part of us is so parasitic that it seeks without knowing to destroy the whole?