“Coalition of 138 nations”? Anyone have a list?

[Selene]

One of the kingpins of the Wilcock/Drake theory is the “acknowledged” existence of an operating coalition of 138 nations who have united to (presumably) a) defeat the financial tyranny of the central banks, or b) the Bretton Woods system or c) the fiat money system, or some such, to be shortly replaced with a new worldwide financial structure of their devising.

Does anyone have a link to an actual document or list of these nations?

Pardon me, but I cannot, for the life of me locate one. All I can find is requoted quotes of David’s original statement/allegation, but no actual data.

And please, don’t say we can’t because it’s “a secret”. Nothing signed and sealed by 138 nations can possibly be a secret in this world. If this is real, it must be noted somewhere. Possibly this is a working group in some other quasi-governmental structure? Part of the UN? SEATO? BRICS?

Anyone?

Regards,

Selene

[foreverfan]

Everyone but the G7. I think that will cover it.

[Unified Serenity]

Assuming is not proving.

[GoodETxSG]

Yea, but its a pretty good guess, lol. Just subtract the "G*" anything and the countries left out are probably in it since we have locked them out of the game. But I would like a true list BRICS union and others all together. I will shoot DW and email and see if there is one available.

[sdv]

You cannot find such a list because it does not exist but the myth is being promoted by BF, DW and Drake and the three go round and round incircles verifying each other.
While you wait for BF, DW, Drake, ETs, and so on to save you:

Iceland has gone ahead and had the revolution (no guns involved).
BRICS (representing about half the world's population) has freed itself from the domination of the dollar as a currency of exchange.

Most countries outside of USA have been making a real effort to reduce pollution simply because we just think it is the right thing to do to keep our air and water and land clean.

And so on ...

I don't have a hat to eat, but if this list of so-called 138 countries is real in the way that the revolution in Iceland and BRICS is real, I will eat a bowl full of olives with a side dish of wasabi (I am in awe of people who can actually eat these two items of food).

[sdv]

Could not resist adding some humour ...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-eHn-pQoqq5M/T3tZ6nsYWAI/AAAAAAAAB0g/Shx_8DV-DnA/s1600/New+Delhi+BRICS+Summit.png

[RMorgan]

You cannot find such a list because it does not exist but the myth is being promoted by BF, DW and Drake and the three go round and round incircles verifying each other.
While you wait for BF, DW, Drake, ETs, and so on to save you:

Iceland has gone ahead and had the revolution (no guns involved).
BRICS (representing about half the world's population) has freed itself from the domination of the dollar as a currency of exchange.

Most countries outside of USA have been making a real effort to reduce pollution simply because we just think it is the right thing to do to keep our air and water and land clean.

And so on ...

I don't have a hat to eat, but if this list of so-called 138 countries is real in the way that the revolution in Iceland and BRICS is real, I will eat a bowl full of olives with a side dish of wasabi (I am in awe of people who can actually eat these two items of food).

I agree my friend.

Just imagine the necessary logistics for the meeting of these 138 countries. Each country carrying a staff of at lest 20 people (security, secretaries, etc..). Plus the necessary resources to organize such meeting (hotels, security plans, etc...). Plus the press, which is all over even the most "secret" political/economic meetings.

Even the most secret meetings involving very important persons are hard to be kept in secret these days...

So, if there is really such official agreement between 138 nations, it would be so hard, almost impossible to keep it secret.

These are just a few variables of many. Imagine the diplomatic consequences of such an agreement. Small countries that would be part of it would be covered with sanctions from the US and EU just for thinking of signing such document.

Frankly, this mass arrests story is a very old one. People are saying that it´s going to happen and setting dates for it many years before the internet. Just like this ascension thing, which people are waiting for since the beginning of human existence; it will always going to happen tomorrow, tomorrow and suddenly thousands of years have passed.

So, if there really is such an agreement, it would certainly be traceable. That´s for sure.

While people keep waiting for these mass arrests, without making significant efforts to change things beside typing words on internet forums, THEY are preparing to hit us hard and when they do it, it might be too late.

Cheers,

Raf.

[sdv]

I've Googled and found various references to 138 countries:

Skype claims to have users in 138 countries
Organic farming purprtedly extends to 138 countries
Learning to Teach Online claims to help teachers in 138 countries
I foound two studies (one on Internet trends and one on gender inequality) that included 138 countries in each study
Pan Am published a guide of travel facts about visiting 138 countries

And so on.

But maybe the number 138 has been incorrectly reported on this forum and a different figure was given?

PS ;)

[Mad Hatter]

Careful there Selene remember 'many a good argument is ruined by someone who knows what they are talking about' and asking for facts is tantamount to asking a tru believer for proof.... fraught with danger in this politically correct era...

[RMorgan]

I've Googled and found various references to 138 countries:

Skype claims to have users in 138 countries
Organic farming purprtedly extends to 138 countries
Learning to Teach Online claims to help teachers in 138 countries
I foound two studies (one on Internet trends and one on gender inequality) that included 138 countries in each study
Pan Am published a guide of travel facts about visiting 138 countries

And so on.

But maybe the number 138 has been incorrectly reported on this forum and a different figure was given?

Hey mate,

Well, google any random number of countries bellow 194 and you´ll find lots of results.

I´ve just googled "132 countries" and many interesting things appeared as result as well.

Frankly, it´s meaningless.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

When all the bread is buttered, I think we need to realise, that these 'nations' are still corporations, just wanting a larger slice of the pie.

if it isn't in their interest it wouldnt be done.

[foreverfan]

http://www.stjohnte.com/images/eat-hat-cropped.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rKKexGdPjI

[Mozart]

Guys ~


Just google this: " Monaco accords " ...


... and see for yourselves the birth of this now-138-nation alliance that has decided to stop the goddamn, evil Cabal. It started with 57 nations and now it's 138 nations.


They are for real, whether you believe it, or not.


http://alcuinbramerton.blogspot.com/2011/09/monaco-colloquium-august-2011.html


http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1022-lawsuit-end-tyranny-ii


Excerpt from Wilcock:


Since I am in direct contact with the organizers of the Monaco Accords -- the 122-nation alliance -- let me say this:

The "old guard" were not even INVITED to these meetings -- and if any of them showed up, they were turned away. Fulford documented all of this at the time.

The number of nations that was chosen -- namely 130 -- is too close to the Monaco Accords figure to be accidental.

That being said, Kerry Cassidy vouched for the legitimacy of the man giving the information. That would imply that whomever told him this is lying to him.

It is also interesting, and may be significant, that less than 24 hours before this story broke on the Internet, one of the chief organizers of the "real" Monaco Accords was hit by a car and narrowly escaped with his life.

He is very lucky to have had fairly minor injuries, and will be fine. Nonetheless he is in a lot of pain and is mostly staying in bed.

To me, all of this is only further proof that the negative elite are on their last legs and are making desperate moves to stave off their inevitable defeat.



So, do you think that this guy, David Wilcock, is lying to all of us? He's in "direct contact with the organizers of the Monaco Accords" ... do you believe him? Do you think that all this hoopla over the "Monaco Accords" is a figment of someone's overactive imagination?


Hey, I know the guy, Wilcock, and I've known him for 13 years. I can personally guarantee that David is not lying about this. So the probabilities of the Monaco Accords to have really happened is extremely high.


Get those bowls of olives and wasabi on standby ...


~Mozart

[OnyxKnight]

If it was indeed 138, we would not be still using colored paper today. I mean literally today. They would have been successful by this time.

[sdv]

Fiction. What is the stuff that David Wilcock is smoking?!

All Google searches lead back to David Wilcock so do I need to explain the absurdity of this as proof?

Here is what the so-called Monaco Accord is:


The Principality of Monaco is a sovereign and independent state, linked closely to France by the Treaty of 1918, the text of which has international recognition because it is confirmed by Article 436 of the Treaty of Versailles of 1919, which instituted a contractual, bilateral, and reciprocal regime between the two states. The foreign policy of Monaco is one illustration of this accord: France has agreed to defend the independence and sovereignty of Monaco, while the Monegasque Government has agreed to exercise its sovereign rights in conformity with French interests. Since then, the relations between the sovereign states of France and Monaco have been further defined in the Treaty of 1945 and the Agreement of 1963.

Now read this piece of common sense and move on!


Just imagine the necessary logistics for the meeting of these 138 countries. Each country carrying a staff of at lest 20 people (security, secretaries, etc..). Plus the necessary resources to organize such meeting (hotels, security plans, etc...). Plus the press, which is all over even the most "secret" political/economic meetings.

Even the most secret meetings involving very important persons are hard to be kept in secret these days...

So, if there is really such official agreement between 138 nations, it would be so hard, almost impossible to keep it secret.

These are just a few variables of many. Imagine the diplomatic consequences of such an agreement. Small countries that would be part of it would be covered with sanctions from the US and EU just for thinking of signing such document.

So, if there really is such an agreement, it would certainly be traceable. That´s for sure.

[RMorgan]

Hey sdv,

Yes. David Wilcock says that everything that comes from his mouth is a proof of something, without ever showing evidence. He´s also pointing to other dubious alternative characters as proof and relying in other persons vouch as proof, like this:


"Since I am in direct contact with the organizers of the Monaco Accords -- the 122-nation alliance -- let me say this:

The "old guard" were not even INVITED to these meetings -- and if any of them showed up, they were turned away. Fulford documented all of this at the time.

The number of nations that was chosen -- namely 130 -- is too close to the Monaco Accords figure to be accidental.

That being said, Kerry Cassidy vouched for the legitimacy of the man giving the information. That would imply that whomever told him this is lying to him.

It is also interesting, and may be significant, that less than 24 hours before this story broke on the Internet, one of the chief organizers of the "real" Monaco Accords was hit by a car and narrowly escaped with his life.

He is very lucky to have had fairly minor injuries, and will be fine. Nonetheless he is in a lot of pain and is mostly staying in bed.

To me, all of this is only further proof that the negative elite are on their last legs and are making desperate moves to stave off their inevitable defeat."


How come this is proof of anything? A couple of lines written in a computer screen, documented by Fulford, who never showed the documents, with Kerry Cassidy vouching for a man with no name, and another man with no name who supposedly suffered a car accident that can´t be verified???????

Everything that almost all these guys (Wilcock, Fulford, Drake, etc...) offer as evidence and proof can´t be tracked further than their own testimonials, documents that never show up and people with no name.

These things couldn´t be called evidence or proof anywhere in the whole Universe!

They make such a illogical mess, that people end up believing in them, because it twists their brains! One vague evidence relying on another vague evidence, which relies on a nameless person testimony, which relies on another vouch that another person gave about another nameless person, who show documents that never show up...

This is like a poor Hollywood movie script full of loopholes! At the moment you´re on the theater watching the movie, full of special effects and loud sounds, you find it truly amazing. Five minutes after the movie is over and you start examining the script, you can´t believe you were actually enjoying such a poor movie.

This is absurd relying on absurd relying on absurd. Maybe relying is a good word to describe it indeed: Re-Lying, re-lying, re-lying...A lie on top of another pile of lies.

It´s always the same old formula, and people never get tired of buying it. Just like Hollywood movies. Pure superficial entertainment.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Mozart]

Guys~


I did not use the term "proof".


I said this: "probabilities of the Monaco Accords to have really happened is extremely high."


So this does not constitute as proof, I agree, but it is highly evidential -- given Wilcock's reliability of information -- that the Monaco Accords are for real.


So then it boils down to Wilcock's character -- you can either believe him, or not. I don't give a flying **** either way you go. I just know what I know and am going with that.


And only 57 nations got together physically, then it grew to 138 nations over time. This alliance is already succeeding in denying the dark bastard cabal the critical lifeblood of their evil empire -- money, their own fiat money.


I am confident that you all will soon be eating hats, shoes, olives, wasabi -- all washed down with raw milk.


~Mozart

[Unified Serenity]

Guys ~


Just google this: " Monaco accords " ...


... and see for yourselves the birth of this now-138-nation alliance that has decided to stop the goddamn, evil Cabal. It started with 57 nations and now it's 138 nations.


They are for real, whether you believe it, or not.


http://alcuinbramerton.blogspot.com/2011/09/monaco-colloquium-august-2011.html


http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1022-lawsuit-end-tyranny-ii


Excerpt from Wilcock:


Since I am in direct contact with the organizers of the Monaco Accords -- the 122-nation alliance -- let me say this:

The "old guard" were not even INVITED to these meetings -- and if any of them showed up, they were turned away. Fulford documented all of this at the time.

The number of nations that was chosen -- namely 130 -- is too close to the Monaco Accords figure to be accidental.

That being said, Kerry Cassidy vouched for the legitimacy of the man giving the information. That would imply that whomever told him this is lying to him.

It is also interesting, and may be significant, that less than 24 hours before this story broke on the Internet, one of the chief organizers of the "real" Monaco Accords was hit by a car and narrowly escaped with his life.

He is very lucky to have had fairly minor injuries, and will be fine. Nonetheless he is in a lot of pain and is mostly staying in bed.

To me, all of this is only further proof that the negative elite are on their last legs and are making desperate moves to stave off their inevitable defeat.

So, do you think that this guy, David Wilcock, is lying to all of us? He's in "direct contact with the organizers of the Monaco Accords" ... do you believe him? Do you think that all this hoopla over the "Monaco Accords" is a figment of someone's overactive imagination?


Hey, I know the guy, Wilcock, and I've known him for 13 years. I can personally guarantee that David is not lying about this. So the probabilities of the Monaco Accords to have really happened is extremely high.


Get those bowls of olives and wasabi on standby ...


~Mozart

Ok, so I went to check out the sources for this story. I went to http://alcuinbramerton.blogspot.com/2011/09/monaco-colloquium-august-2011.html first.

The story is linked to: http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2011/08/29/benjamin-fulford-august-30-2011-secret-meeting-of-57-finance-ministers-on-ship-charts-new-financial-system-humanity-will-be-set-free-soon/

This is site is taking it's information from Fulford's stuff: http://benjaminfulford.net/2011/08/30/secret-meeting-of-57-finance-ministers-on-ship-charts-new-financial-system/

If you trace the sources listed:


More comment on the Monaco Colloquium can be found here (http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases) (16.09.11), here (http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/2011/09/neil-keenan-and-keith-scott.html) (14.09.11), here (http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2011/09/06/benjamin-fulford-9-6-11-the-people-of-the-planet-earth-want-peace/) (06.09.11), here (http://alcuinbramerton.blogspot.com/2011/09/benjamin-fulfords-message-to-western.html) (30.08.11), here (http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/2011/08/neil-keenan-and-keith-scott%E3%81%AB%E3%81%A4%E3%81%84%E3%81%A6.html) (30.08.11) and here (http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=214256) (30.08.11).

Some big-picture geopolitical background is outlined here (http://shiftfrequency.com/ben-fulford-april-23-2012-major-confrontations-in-south-china-sea-as-desperate-cabal-tries-to-steal-asian-gold-deposits/) (23.04.12), here (http://shiftfrequency.com/ben-fulford-april-16-2012-it-is-time-to-take-the-ring-of-power-to-mount-doom/) (16.04.12), here (http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/2012/04/re-cut-off-dates.html) (12.04.12), here (http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/2012/04/re-question-bout-an-interesting-post-1.html) (12.04.12), here (http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/2012/04/re-latest-update.html) (10.04.12), here (http://truth11.com/2012/04/10/benjamin-fulford-full-update-bernanke-and-geithner-are-still-trying-to-cash-bad-checks-9-april-2012/) (09.04.12), here 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(http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/2011/12/a-different-view-elmer-chen.html) (22.12.11), here (http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/2011/12/occupy-the-global-financial-system-breaking-news-re-the-99-activating-the-new-the-first-historic-trades-within-the-new-fi.html) (22.12.11), here (http://truth11.com/2011/12/21/benjamin-fulford-12-19-2011-kim-jong-il-murdered-as-part-of-major-asian-power-battle/) (20.12.11), here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?37171-The-latest-from-Fulford...--20.12.11) (20.12.11), here (http://truth11.com/2011/12/15/benjamin-fulford-cabal-struggles-desperately-to-create-fascist-world-government-as-multiple-criminal-investigations-zero-in-on-them/) (12.12.11), here (http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/995-lawsuit-end-tyranny) (12.12.11), here (http://truth11.com/2011/12/09/benjamin-fulford-december-5-2011-the-us-senate-and-obama-claiming-the-right-to-murder-and-imprison-americans-without-trial-was-a-fatal-mistake/) (05.12.11), here (http://theulstermanreport.com/2011/11/30/white-house-insider-there-is-a-very-uneasy-peace-between-president-obama-and-the-american-military/) (30.11.12), here (http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2011/11/28/benjamin-fulford-11-28-11-chaos-prevails-at-the-highest-levels-of-government-in-the-west-as-the-financial-fraud-unravels-truth-is-stranger-than-fiction/) (28.11.11), here (http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/2011/11/the-lawsuit-that-could-end-the-gangster-rule-of-western-civilization.html) (24.11.11), here (http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/benjamin-fulford-11-21-11-rothschild-family-representative-leaves-japan-empty-handed/) (21.11.11), here (http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2011/11/14/benjamin-fulford-11-15-11-the-cabalists-struggle-in-vain-to-stop-the-new-financial-system-the-global-human-awakening-will-not-be-stopped/) (15.11.11), here (http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2011/11/07/benjamin-fulford-11-8-11-paradigm-lost-as-the-western-oligarch%e2%80%99s-lies-unravel-the-criminal-cabal-is-caput/) (08.11.11), here (http://www.truthwinds.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1317857435) (05.10.11), here (http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2011/10/03/benjamin-fulford-10-3-11-the-pole-shift-in-global-financial-power-is-almost-complete/) (03.10.11), here (http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2011/09/26/benjamin-fulford-9-27-11-cabal-resorting-to-desperate-tactics-as-they-try-to-prevent-reboot-of-financial-system-they-will-be-stopped/) (26.09.11), here (http://tdarkcabal.blogspot.com/2011/09/september-25-2011-white-hats-report-29.html) (25.09.11), here (http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2011/08/22/benjamin-fulford-8-23-11-last-minute-offensive-by-us-criminal-regime-will-fail/) (22.08.11), here (http://www.truthwinds.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1313799578) (19.08.11), here (http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2011/08/15/benjamin-fulford-august-15-2011-turmoil-expected-to-increase-in-autumn-before-old-world-order-collapses/) (15.08.11), here (http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2011/08/09/august-9-20111-short-note-from-ben-fulford/) (09.08.11), here (http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2011/08/08/ben-fulford-august-9-2011-the-phoenix-will-arise-from-the-ashes-of-the-old-world-order/) (08.08.11), here (http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2011/08/01/benjamin-fulford-august-2-2011-what-replacing-the-government-of-the-planet-means-the-signs-of-global-regime-change-are-everywhere-big-changes-on-these-fronts-are-expected-this-autumn/) (01.08.11), here (http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2011/07/25/benjamin-fulford-july-26-2011-the-debts-are-finally-being-called-in-and-those-who-thought-they-were-gods-fall-to-earth/) (25.07.11) and here (http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2011/07/17/ben-fulford-7-18-11-the-slow-fuse-will-keep-burning-through-july/) (17.07.11). Continually updated gold price charts can be viewed here (http://www.kitco.com/lfgif/au0365lf_ma.gif) and here (http://www.kitco.com/charts/livegold.html). And the corresponding silver charts are here (http://www.kitco.com/lfgif/ag0365lf_ma.gif) and here (http://www.kitco.com/charts/livesilver.html).So we yet again have the stooges backing each other up and quoting one another, listing other blogs which cite the same sources. This is very much a scam. How come we don't have any "credible" non fulford,wilcock (divine cosmos), Drake, and other blogs siting Fulford, Wilcock, Drake? It's because they want you to think there is tons of evidence when it's really just a circle jerk.

http://realestatetomato.com/files/2011/02/Shasing-your-tail.jpg


Contrary to what the most worshipful followers of BF, DW, Drake want us to believe, we are not idiots! Follow the sources and they are always the same players.

[RMorgan]

Exactly, my dear friend Unified Serenity! Spot on!

This is what I´m talking about for years!

Their "proof" is always pointing to their own testimonials and they all back up each other!

Anyone who tries to exam and track down these stories further, will have the same results!

If all of this was a journalism student´s work, he would end up with a very big red D , for not tracking and verifying his sources properly.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Mozart]

Contrary to what the most worshipful followers of BF, DW, Drake want us to believe, we are not idiots! Follow the sources and they are always the same players.




Yes, I've done searches and have noticed that this information tends to circle back to the same sources and that has bothered me to see that other sources are not covering this information in depth.


But Fulford has been vindicated on a large number of key points that he'd been talking about for years -- with no other corroborating information on the net -- yet to be validated eventually, like with the Keenan lawsuit, the Asian caches of gold, etc.


Not all of Fulford's information panned out, of course, so don't misconstrue what I'm saying here.


Skepticism is always useful and I welcome that.


If the mass arrests don't happen and if the ****ing dark bastard cabal are not defeated, once and for all, anytime this ****ing year, I just don't ****ing know how I'm going to respond to those events, quite frankly. <sigh>


Meanwhile I am well-prepared with food, water, etc in a rural area, so I'm ok. It's the big cities that I worry about. But you must keep in mind that the players in this drama on Earth are so big, bigger than you can imagine (the ETs/EDs), so I seriously doubt that they would allow our Earth to descend down into horrible Mad-Max-like scenarios on the whole of our Earth with massive destabilization everywhere.


No, I just don't see that happening.


~Mozart

[Unified Serenity]

Contrary to what the most worshipful followers of BF, DW, Drake want us to believe, we are not idiots! Follow the sources and they are always the same players.



Yes, I've done searches and have noticed that this information tends to circle back to the same sources and that has bothered me to see that other sources are not covering this information in depth.


But Fulford has been vindicated on a large number of key points that he'd been talking about for years -- with no other corroborating information on the net -- yet to be validated eventually, like with the Keenan lawsuit, the Asian caches of gold, etc.


Not all of Fulford's information panned out, of course, so don't misconstrue what I'm saying here.


Skepticism is always useful and I welcome that.


If the mass arrests don't happen and if the ****ing dark bastard cabal are not defeated, once and for all, anytime this ****ing year, I just don't ****ing know how I'm going to respond to those events, quite frankly. <sigh>


Meanwhile I am well-prepared with food, water, etc in a rural area, so I'm ok. It's the big cities that I worry about. But you must keep in mind that the players in this drama on Earth are so big, bigger than you can imagine (the ETs/EDs), so I seriously doubt that they would allow our Earth to descend down into horrible Mad-Max-like scenarios on the whole of our Earth with massive destabilization everywhere.


No, I just don't see that happening.


~Mozart

Mozart, I hear your heart, and my words are not meant as condemnation. I understand what you are saying, I just do not agree regarding the disintigration of society. This is a plan spelled out and already implimented in many other countries. It works and it works extremely well. The Arab sprint uprising was not some organic development from the lowly people. It was agent provocateurs inciting violence and upheavel. There was immense propaganda used, and the Muslim Brotherhood is just another CIA operation (ALL CIA DUH is al-Qaeda) It's just another operation to bring thew world under control politically, strategically, and economically.

Bezmenov spelled it out for us and it's happening to the letter.

Demoralize is stage 1. Upset the foundation of the society.

Destabalize is stage 2. Once the people are no longer connected and unified, start stirring up trouble economically, politically and religiously / socially.

Crisis is stage 3. Once the country is properly destabalized and the population is talking change, change change, then you start protests, riots, and cover the story day and night so the people think it really is a people's movement and thus they need to support it as well.

Normalization is stage 4. That is the part just after the crisis and violence. Get your people into position, set up the new government, and get rid of anyone who is not on board with you.

It works. It worked in the Old Russian Empire for their people revolution. It worked in Nazi Germany for their socialist revolution. It worked in Vietnam, Korea, China, Cambodia, Egypt, Syria, and it's coming to a neighborhood near you in the West very soon. You saw them lay the groundwork for this last year with the OWS movement. Now, they are laying the groundwork for anarchy as an option with the news this past week of OWS people planning to blow up a bridge and other infrastructure. Of course they don't tell you about the FBI plant who talked them into it or supplied them with the C4 and turned them in at the "last moment". No, it's all propaganda to get the people thinking a certain way.

Anarchy is coming. It is not a grass roots movement, but the elite have made sure to sew anger, hatred, unrest, and division to lay the foundation so when it does kick off, they can blame the same people, come in as saviors and as the population cries peace peace peace, the elites stop the violence and set up their normalized government which was the goal all along. We will need a whole new way of doing things. Those who can't get on board will need "re-education" and those who simply won't go along will disappear. This system works.

Very few people are "hero's". The weapons against the people are great and powerful. At this time, the only weapon more powerful is prayer from a contrite heart seeking God. But, they destroyed all ideas of God and contrite humble hearts. We will get just what we deserve and it's been promised for a very very long time.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

This man never stops being interesting, must have watched this 12 times or so.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Bezmenov

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And please think of this when taking in consideration the current world situation, the man in the video`s is only oneman of many many thousends of men of every race, nationality and color and political orientation who are experts in above named tactics, effective, not very pretty, but ingenious and again, effective, just look around you.

[Unified Serenity]

Look at how this chart lays out subverting a nation and ask yourself if this has happened in America and other Western countries:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kd-ZzSgzK7o/S_cblEb3iOI/AAAAAAAAADw/toZ1wcZGgDU/s1600/subversion+process.jpg

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Look at how this chart lays out subverting a nation and ask yourself if this has happened in America and other Western countries:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kd-ZzSgzK7o/S_cblEb3iOI/AAAAAAAAADw/toZ1wcZGgDU/s1600/subversion+process.jpg

Thanks US, i saved it, do you have more of his works?

I see this is page 22 from a book, i dont have it unfortunatly.

Regards

Ed

EDIT, and o Yeah, it happened allright:(

[Unified Serenity]

Bezmenov wrote a book under the name Thomas Schuman called No "Novosti" is good news. Here is the scribd link:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/78300796/No-Novosti-is-Good-News-Russian-NOVOSTI-means-espionage-and-terrorism

You can do a search on scribd of Bezmenov, but here is another document:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/61295141/Stages-of-Subversion

[DreamsInDigital]

US, et al

Who do YOU guys consider credible sources then? Since we obviously can't trust ANY Mainstream Sources, and it's a grab bag with Alternative Sources, who's left?

[Unified Serenity]

You know dreams that's a good question. I would say that if a "whistleblower" is going to get on the radio or do an interview to not rehash old stuff and pretend they are someone special when most of us have already heard the stuff. Don't make grand statements with no specifics. Don't say, "Trust me" and don't expect me to take BF or DW's word for it that "they've been vetted" because they like to just vouch for one another.

DW: "Hey Ben, I am going to interview this guy who says this financial cabal is going to come down and he is tied into the white knights. Do you know him".

BF: "yeh David, he's a top notch insider and has lots of good news"

DW: "Hello radio land and most worshipful fans, I have a great guest on today who is going to tell you all about stuff you all know and he is on our side. He's a good guy and I have vetted him".

So, if someone can reveal something factual we don't know and offer some evidence then I don't care what the source is, it's worth listening to. If all they do is talk about stuff we have known for years and then share their spiritual view of the world then I don't find them credible as a "whistleblower". I might agree with all they say, but as far as them doing anymore than any of us do then no, I don't care about what they have to say as some new "star". Join the forum, chat and share views, but don't try to portray yourself as some insider. To me its just one more charletan looking to make a buck, get in on a speaking engagement, or just wants the attention.

If they move the goal posts then they are a fraud in my book. I've just seen it too many times. Give us a great story, we all like it, get hopes up, give us a date time frame and then.... Ummmm it's moved to next month or something this year..... That crap won't fly anymore for me.

[9eagle9]

It is amazing over the last year and half since I've been on the forum , how people rush to back here-say. One flavor of the month rises, the same faces flock to support them, the FOTM doesn't so much fade away as burn out, the next FOTM rides in on the coat tails of the last, the same faces flock, the same burnout occurs , rinse and repeat.

Established patterns of events. Like watching a tennis game. The ball goes from Ben's court, to David's court, to Drake's court and within three months time some other reigning king or queen of drama will arise to put the ball in motion one more time. The same people over and over rush to back this stuff. They can't find their own arse with both hands but somehow are convinced these people are the real deal.

Its like the ill going to see the pseudo-healer. Even though the ill remains ill the pseudo healer assures them they are really cured. Just in ways that won't be revealed to them until...........

There's all sorts of evidence...but we can't show it to you.

I'm sorry we MISUNDERSTOOD, it seems all your positive intentions have changed the arrest dates to May 5th, 2013 (which is real date of 2012). ie: the failure for said even is really your fault...in a nice way.

Now in the year and half since I've observing this directly, that would be several opportunities to take that time, and have all that energy directed at one's own self empowerment. I suggest throwing the bait out and snapping it back is just a means of preventing people from persuing their own course of self empowerment.(or at least noticing the regular and monotonous pattern of repeat)

It works. Hell if someone kept promising me they were going to drop in and clean my house, I'd not be anxious to load the dishwasher on my own. Thing is after two or three promises and there's no cleaning crew here,.......

Then there are those who are not only still waiting for the cleaning crew but excusing them for their failure to exhibit a mop, a bucket, a vaccumn....

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are we aware that we have about 195 nations in the world and 138 nations constitutes more than 3/4's of the worlds nations who are 'allegedly' involved in this yet there is not a shred of evidence, in spite of that vast amount, not a whisper from anywhere that 3/4's of the world's nations are in collusion.

Going back over a broader picture anything that is for the betterment of mankind is always some vast secret. Which is probably why mankind has not had their condition appreciably better-ed.

[Sebastion]

It always has to be a secret. Lots of money in secrets.




It is amazing over the last year and half since I've been on the forum , how people rush to back here-say. One flavor of the month rises, the same faces flock to support them, the FOTM doesn't so much fade away as burn out, the next FOTM rides in on the coat tails of the last, the same faces flock, the same burnout occurs , rinse and repeat.

Established patterns of events. Like watching a tennis game. The ball goes from Ben's court, to David's court, to Drake's court and within three months time some other reigning king or queen of drama will arise to put the ball in motion one more time. The same people over and over rush to back this stuff. They can't find their own arse with both hands but somehow are convinced these people are the real deal.

Its like the ill going to see the pseudo-healer. Even though the ill remains ill the pseudo healer assures them they are really cured. Just in ways that won't be revealed to them until...........

There's all sorts of evidence...but we can't show it to you.

I'm sorry we MISUNDERSTOOD, it seems all your positive intentions have changed the arrest dates to May 5th, 2013 (which is real date of 2012). ie: the failure for said even is really your fault...in a nice way.

Now in the year and half since I've observing this directly, that would be several opportunities to take that time, and have all that energy directed at one's own self empowerment. I suggest throwing the bait out and snapping it back is just a means of preventing people from persuing their own course of self empowerment.(or at least noticing the regular and monotonous pattern of repeat)

It works. Hell if someone kept promising me they were going to drop in and clean my house, I'd not be anxious to load the dishwasher on my own. Thing is after two or three promises and there's no cleaning crew here,.......

Then there are those who are not only still waiting for the cleaning crew but excusing them for their failure to exhibit a mop, a bucket, a vaccumn....

¤=[Post Update]=¤

are we aware that we have about 195 nations in the world and 138 nations constitutes more than 3/4's of the worlds nations who are 'allegedly' involved in this yet there is not a shred of evidence, in spite of that vast amount, not a whisper from anywhere that 3/4's of the world's nations are in collusion.

Going back over a broader picture anything that is for the betterment of mankind is always some vast secret. Which is probably why mankind has not had their condition appreciably better-ed.

[sdv]

Common sense never lets you down. Here are some examples of common sense (in bold):

are we aware that we have about 195 nations in the world and 138 nations constitutes more than 3/4's of the worlds nations who are 'allegedly' involved in this yet there is not a shred of evidence, in spite of that vast amount, not a whisper from anywhere that 3/4's of the world's nations are in collusion


All Google searches lead back to David Wilcock so do I need to explain the absurdity of this as proof (or any kind of evidence at all- how can a person say that proof that what they say is true is because they said it?)

Here is what the so-called Monaco Accord is:

The Principality of Monaco is a sovereign and independent state, linked closely to France by the Treaty of 1918, the text of which has international recognition because it is confirmed by Article 436 of the Treaty of Versailles of 1919, which instituted a contractual, bilateral, and reciprocal regime between the two states. The foreign policy of Monaco is one illustration of this accord: France has agreed to defend the independence and sovereignty of Monaco, while the Monegasque Government has agreed to exercise its sovereign rights in conformity with French interests. Since then, the relations between the sovereign states of France and Monaco have been further defined in the Treaty of 1945 and the Agreement of 1963.

Now read this piece of common sense and move on!

Just imagine the necessary logistics for the meeting of these 138 countries. Each country carrying a staff of at lest 20 people (security, secretaries, etc..). Plus the necessary resources to organize such meeting (hotels, security plans, etc...). Plus the press, which is all over even the most "secret" political/economic meetings.

Even the most secret meetings involving very important persons are hard to be kept in secret these days...

So, if there is really such official agreement between 138 nations, it would be so hard, almost impossible to keep it secret.

These are just a few variables of many. Imagine the diplomatic consequences of such an agreement. Small countries that would be part of it would be covered with sanctions from the US and EU just for thinking of signing such document.

So, if there really is such an agreement, it would certainly be traceable. That´s for sure

For those of you who do not know it, Monaco is a very very small country. Now, try some common sense thinking and apply it to what DW says about the Monaco Accord (which is actually an agreement between Monaco and France).

[778 neighbour of some guy]

US, et al

Who do YOU guys consider credible sources then? Since we obviously can't trust ANY Mainstream Sources, and it's a grab bag with Alternative Sources, who's left?

Everything and anybody until they stop being credible and i have made up my mind about what they are saying, but i am very aware that how i interpret things is only my interpretation of thruth or credibility, there is plenty of things i miss while informing myself, being here on the forum has in turn strenghtened my resolve and kicked it in the face multiple times, i become more sceptical (reserved) as time progresses and i like that a whole lot better.

So whoever makes me a stronger independent thinker ( whether its bs or something i believe in makes no difference anymore) is credible to me.

Rather vague eh?

Cant help it, thats how things are now for me.

[mosquito]

.......are we aware that we have about 195 nations in the world and 138 nations constitutes more than 3/4's of the worlds nations who are 'allegedly' involved in this yet there is not a shred of evidence, in spite of that vast amount, not a whisper from anywhere that 3/4's of the world's nations are in collusion....

Precisely !!!!

[9eagle9]

A credible source would be as noted above. Someone who applies common sense (that ever elusive 6th sense) . They create a framework of cause and effect, and who is to gain from any circumstance of nefarious assholery. They don't claim to have all the answers, they don't need an army of followers to support their position, or create their own business around the 'business of complaining about other's business'. One who has what they are talking about reflected in their own life.

Speculative logic.

Keeps it impersonal.

Presents their evidence for what it is and allows it to stand on it's own. It speaks for itself, one doesn't have to narrate ever shred of evidence. You do that and a potato chip vaguely shaped like the Virgin Mary will assume holy aspects.

Instead of handwaving and saying "all secrets will be revealed' prefers to be honest and state that some information isn't known at this time.

Opens speculation up to the public (given as this is everyone's situation)

Leaves out the magickal fillers like Ex Deus Machina ' (which is what many early social programming scripts revolve around if one studies the history of cinema)

Impresses that they have some direct experience with the topic at hand and has experienced circumstances in a first person sort of way.

A simple I don't know tends to lend more credibility to any whistlelblower than 'I know everything and will dollop it out as sheep fodder as I please."

And of course employs common sense.

Can provide compelling physical and circumstantial evidence.

Does not mean they are right, or are bearing an unrefutable truth but they have credibility.

In every recession here in the US, in every instance when a corporation has gone belly up in the public eye under the allegations of embezzlement, cooking the books, a slew of CEO's , Financial Officers, etc are fired or replaced, or even arrested depending the nature of the financial pandering like Kenneth Lay and the Enron debacle.

That's business. What the shareholders going to say 'Oh you suck, you've raped my residual income but we'll let you stay" .

It's business. Forgive my ignorance but I have spent 20 years in the world of business, during recessive and depressive dips, and at no time did I see god wandering corporate halls arresting people or serving papers. Only in 2012 could people believe that God has become a process server.

One notices that the occult nature of the date 5/5/2012 --the date of the intimation into the 'mass arrests' --and the framework that the date falls within has been virtually unmentioned. Drake may be unwittingly aligning himself with a energy that he'd rather not be aligned with. And of course his adherents will dive right in.








US, et al

Who do YOU guys consider credible sources then? Since we obviously can't trust ANY Mainstream Sources, and it's a grab bag with Alternative Sources, who's left?

Everything and anybody until they stop being credible and i have made up my mind about what they are saying, but i am very aware that how i interpret things is only my interpretation of thruth or credibility, there is plenty of things i miss while informing myself, being here on the forum has in turn strenghtened my resolve and kicked it in the face multiple times, i become more sceptical (reserved) as time progresses and i like that a whole lot better.

So whoever makes me a stronger independent thinker ( whether its bs or something i believe in makes no difference anymore) is credible to me.

Rather vague eh?

Cant help it, thats how things are now for me.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

A credible source would be as noted above. Someone who applies common sense (that ever elusive 6th sense) . They create a framework of cause and effect, and who is to gain from any circumstance of nefarious assholery. They don't claim to have all the answers, they don't need an army of followers to support their position, or create their own business around the 'business of complaining about other's business'. One who has what they are talking about reflected in their own life.

Speculative logic.

Keeps it impersonal.

Presents their evidence for what it is and allows it to stand on it's own. It speaks for itself, one doesn't have to narrate ever shred of evidence. You do that and a potato chip vaguely shaped like the Virgin Mary will assume holy aspects.

Instead of handwaving and saying "all secrets will be revealed' prefers to be honest and state that some information isn't known at this time.

Opens speculation up to the public (given as this is everyone's situation)

Lives the magickal fillers like Ex Deus Machina ' (which is what many early social programming scripts revolve around if one studies the history of cinema)

Impresses that they have some direct experience with the topic at hand and has experienced circumstances in a first person sort of way.

A simple I don't know tends to lend more credibility to any whistlelblower than 'I know everything and will dollop it out as sheep fodder as I please."

And of course employs common sense.

Can provide compelling physical and circumstantial evidence.

Does not mean they are right, or are bearing an unrefutable truth but they have credibility.

In every recession here in the US, in every instance when a corporation has gone belly up in the public eye under the allegations of embezzlement, cooking the books, a slew of CEO's , Financial Officers, etc are fired or replaced, or even arrested depending the nature of the financial pandering like Kenneth Lay and the Enron debacle.

That's business. What the shareholders going to say 'Oh you suck, you've raped my residual income but we'll let you stay" .

It's business. Forgive my ignorance but I have spent 20 years in the world of business, during recessive and depressive dips, and at no time did I see god wandering corporate halls arresting people or serving papers. Only in 2012 could people believe that God has become a process server.

One notices that the occult nature of the date 5/5/2012 --the date of the intimation into the 'mass arrests' --and the framework that the date falls within has been virtually unmentioned. Drake may be unwittingly aligning himself with a energy that he'd rather not be aligned with. And of course his adherents will dive right in.








US, et al

Who do YOU guys consider credible sources then? Since we obviously can't trust ANY Mainstream Sources, and it's a grab bag with Alternative Sources, who's left?

Everything and anybody until they stop being credible and i have made up my mind about what they are saying, but i am very aware that how i interpret things is only my interpretation of thruth or credibility, there is plenty of things i miss while informing myself, being here on the forum has in turn strenghtened my resolve and kicked it in the face multiple times, i become more sceptical (reserved) as time progresses and i like that a whole lot better.

So whoever makes me a stronger independent thinker ( whether its bs or something i believe in makes no difference anymore) is credible to me.

Rather vague eh?

Cant help it, thats how things are now for me.

Now what just happened here ?:o

Quoted in a good or a bad way, i sometimes kinda cant keep up with your speed, and your raging intellect ;)

translating my thought from dutch to english is not always easy, but to be more clear about what i said above, if it stands up it stands up, if it does not it does not. ( whether something holds water is a subjective thing and kinda personal, as i observed on the forum at least.)