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Ernie Nemeth
6th May 2012, 14:05
This is not a nice post so be warned.



I wish to make a statement about the secret underlying consequence of our modern society.
It is not new, it is not earthshattering. It is, however, basic fact. A fact that we bury deep within ourselves as we go about our busy days.

This is not aimed at the obese, nor is it an attack on any particular lifestyle or belief.

It is this: The cost of fat is paid for in the blood of innocents.

This is an analogy, more than it is the physical manifestation of the subcutaneous storage of energy. Although it is a basic fact that our western world is becoming ever-increasingly overweight and out of shape.

Imagine the average westerner, who is fairly awake and aware and loving and caring, watching the news, say, about the starving unfortunates in some far away land - while munching on a big bag of chips and guzzling a 2 litre bottle of their favorite soda. Mouth full of poison, their hearts go out to the terrible image presented to them. Maybe even shedding a tear. Or even more likely, considering shedding a tear but the thought of having to get up and woddle down the hall after to wash their greasy tears off, deters them from that activity. Then they turn the station to their favorite show...

Or imagine the Friday afternoon or Monday morning rush to fill up their gas tanks.

Or consider the tourist in some third-world country complaining how it is not safe to travel the countryside because of the locals that may accost them for money or pick their pockets or, in extreme cases, hold them for ransom.

These are all images designed to illustrate and drive home a single point. All of our modern activities have been paid for by the misery of billions less fortunate than ourselves.

Each of us here, in the so-called first world, have blood on our hands. That is the true cost of our prosperity. In our greed, in our laziness and lassitude, in our ineptitude, in our stored reserves of fat, we have stated our fundamental position: that the cost of fat is worth the blood of the innocent.

Every year an individual lives on this planet, they have spent the life of another individual as the price of their opulence. And we are so proud how our life-expectancy continues to climb. What we are really saying is we have increased the death toll per capita to support our lifestyles.

We all have blood on our hands.

So when you pump your gas, or munch your favorite snack, or line up at the fast food counter or drive-through, remember what the cost of fat truly is. Blood. The blood of those to whom we did not give a chance to shine.

The cost of fat is paid for in blood.

Mozart
6th May 2012, 14:12
So when you pump your gas, or munch your favorite snack, or line up at the fast food counter or drive-through, remember what the cost of fat truly is. Blood. The blood of those to whom we did not give a chance to shine.

The cost of fat is paid for in blood.




That's so, so true, brother. Thanks for sharing.


It is through our silence, our quiescence of the current system of central banking, of bull**** politics and of the dominance of corporations that has created this horrible and sad situation. I refuse to accept this situation any longer.


And that's all the more reason why we need to effing toss off those effing bankster-bastards and stop their pillaging us and the rest of the world. We've got do succeed with the mass arrests asap!


~Mozart

Ernie Nemeth
6th May 2012, 14:20
Thanks Mozart.

This just hit home recently and I had to speak up in as simple a form as I could think of.
People must become more aware and given the impetus to effect change.
Our mindsets must be re-aligned with truth so the propaganda we have allowed to rule our minds can be shattered forevermore.

It begins within then moves without, into the world we perceive...

Alex Laker
6th May 2012, 14:59
I like the sentiment of what you posted, but I see a contradiction when you talk about the average Westerner drinking 2 litres of soda a day and eating high levels of saturated fat etc. (personally, I wouldn't call that the average Westerner, although maybe we might joke in England that it is the average American, or average Scot...)

Frankly, I see that anyone in such a position to be comsuming in such a manner are themselves stuck in a kind of poverty, although not necessarily of an immediately mortal kind. In any case, such a person is not going to have a high life expectancy, and they probably know that.

I think that we might find that the most awake people in the western world also have the highest life expectancy. This would be down to the fact that they feel more in the know, and therefore more in control of what's going on in the world, and that they can actually help. In addition, they are also more likely to eat healthily. Both of these things together reduce feelings of depression, which in turn helps to motivate one to do the other two things, which is only positive.

I think actually that many in the west are not guilty because they are 'fat' at the cost of quality of life in the third world, but actually we are 'fat' because we are guilty. Most people just couldn't deal with knowing how the world really is. They know it's bad, of course, but in order to carry on functioning, they escape it with consumerism.

Either way, telling it how it is like you have done in the OP will push each type of person (awake or asleep) further down their respective paths. You tell an asleep person that the world is an evil place, and it forms part of their 'negative feedback loop', and they indulge further in consumerism to try and convince themselves its not their fault, or at least everything will be better with a new iPhone.

You tell an awake person the same thing, and it forms part of their 'positive feedback loop'. It motivates them to continue trying to change the way they live, and will motivate them to act in bringing prosperity to the third world.

Basically, this wouldn't be a way to wake people up - its too harsh and too real. But of course, this is something we must all realise very quickly if the people in most need in the world are to have any hope. It is a dilemma within a dilemma.

Alie
6th May 2012, 15:09
Ernie, I appreciate your POV.

From a health perspective of course you are right.

Nothing about "now" is pretty. Not if we are trying to pierce the veil.

But please keep in mind, when you have sheeple (of which I am in the process of breaking free from being one) you absolutely don't know that there's anything but being a part of the herd. Whether we're FAT westerners or STARVING children, we have been led to that particular herd. We have proof of this all over PA and other Alternative News groups.

And when you break free from a herd, you are at such risk to be eaten alive by wolves, tigers, lions ....

So let us have mercy on those of us with programming that has to be undone. It is going to take SHOCK & AWE to wakeup this FAT herd you are talking about. I am doing all I can do to become "awake and aware" and think/belief/wish/hope/speak out for this shock and awe to come forth.

Ernie Nemeth
6th May 2012, 15:19
Thanks Araxes.
I think actually that many in the west are not guilty because they are 'fat' at the cost of quality of life in the third world, but actually we are 'fat' because we are guilty. Most people just couldn't deal with knowing how the world really is. They know it's bad, of course, but in order to carry on functioning, they escape it with consumerism.



Fat is an analogy only, not a observed bodily trait.
What I am trying to say is that we can have the riches we have but not at the expense of others. We do not live in a vacuum, in an isolated system. What we do in the west affects everyone on the planet. So if we deserve an iphone or want to drive around in cars, or power our homes with nuclear technology or whatnot we must understand that everyone must have access to those things also. If they do not, our industries will inevitably grind them into the dust in their never-ending search for more and cheaper resources and labor.

Alie
6th May 2012, 15:32
Thanks Araxes.
I think actually that many in the west are not guilty because they are 'fat' at the cost of quality of life in the third world, but actually we are 'fat' because we are guilty. Most people just couldn't deal with knowing how the world really is. They know it's bad, of course, but in order to carry on functioning, they escape it with consumerism.



Fat is an analogy only, not a observed bodily trait.
What I am trying to say is that we can have the riches we have but not at the expense of others. We do not live in a vacuum, in an isolated system. What we do in the west affects everyone on the planet. So if we deserve an iphone or want to drive around in cars, or power our homes with nuclear technology or whatnot we must understand that everyone must have access to those things also. If they do not, our industries will inevitably grind them into the dust in their never-ending search for more and cheaper resources and labor.

Ernie
Again, this is a good thread. I certainly understand that "fat" isn't physical but a condition of "the American Dream" --- money, power, freedom (fake), you know ...

I work with the public --- there are different kinds of spending --- survival spending, and pleasure spending.

I'm kind of unfocused here ... but my point is this. So many people spend to alleviate boredom, feel good about themselves, escape reality ... The reason is that they are the "walking dead" ===> there's no meaning in their life (of course I don't mean they don't LOVE their families) but more along the line of a lack of understanding their life purpose.

It's like being very sick for a very long time, and then suddenly being well. Every little thing takes on new meaning.

What you are trying to do, I think, is shake us a little bit and say .... WAKE UP! There's so much more to life than consuming. WAKE UP, WAKE UP ....

(I'm so trying to)

Ernie Nemeth
6th May 2012, 15:45
Hi Alie.
I'm kind of unfocused here ... but my point is this. So many people spend to alleviate boredom, feel good about themselves, escape reality ... The reason is that they are the "walking dead" ===> there's no meaning in their life (of course I don't mean they don't LOVE their families) but more along a LACK of understanding their life purpose.



There is no meaning in their lives, in my life too, because our paradigm is false. We are not an advanced society so long as we do not factor in the cost of any advancement.
For example: nuclear power. The Japanese power company has declared that they will not even try to clean up the mess of the disaster site because of concern for the dividends of their investors. This is clearly insane, of course, because they did profit while selling their product but now wash their hands of the dire results they had not anticipated.
It is the same thinking with the suggested carbon tax. Imagine imposing a tax on industries that pollute the air. That is how the industrial revolution came about in the first place.
In other words, there was in fact no advancement, as they continue to tell us in the mainstream media, because the cost of that activity has been detrimental to all life on the planet.

Shake us up? That would be impossible.
Shame on us that such need even exists, is more like it.
I can only change my own little internal world, and then spread the truth which we all share - whether we want to hear it or not.

RunningDeer
6th May 2012, 16:00
Hello Ernie,
The ease of your expression helps me find the words to share with those just beginning to awaken. I also appreciate the dimensions from where you speak. It's inspiring.
:bump2::bump2::bump2:

WhiteCrowBlackDeer

Ki's
6th May 2012, 16:49
Internal change is of course, positive and necessary but it rings hollow if it isn't followed with external change...right? It has been my experience that 'spreading the word' is so much more powerful when it is spoken quietly through example.
If I speak out on GMO's for instance...my words carry much more weight if I am slim and healthy and not speaking around a mouthful of french fries. It carries even more weight if my yard supports food production instead of a ridiculous expanse of mowed lawn...and more weight again if I treat dandelions as a food source instead of a noxious weed to be treated with genocidal fervor.
External change builds on itself and spreads.
From what I have experienced...a real live person - living a change - has a far greater impact on those they come into contact with on a daily basis then the false doctrine that spews out of the TV.
Just MHO.

andrewgreen
6th May 2012, 17:41
Its called the relative world we live in. Completely necessary for us to have the experience and also ultimately see through the illusion.
If by having blood on our hands you mean we are implicit, then I agree however the biggest mistake you can make is attaching guilt.

Ernie Nemeth
6th May 2012, 18:35
Internal change is of course, positive and necessary but it rings hollow if it isn't followed with external change...right? It has been my experience that 'spreading the word' is so much more powerful when it is spoken quietly through example.
If I speak out on GMO's for instance...my words carry much more weight if I am slim and healthy and not speaking around a mouthful of french fries. It carries even more weight if my yard supports food production instead of a ridiculous expanse of mowed lawn...and more weight again if I treat dandelions as a food source instead of a noxious weed to be treated with genocidal fervor.
External change builds on itself and spreads.
From what I have experienced...a real live person - living a change - has a far greater impact on those they come into contact with on a daily basis then the false doctrine that spews out of the TV.
Just MHO.


No Ki's, that's not an opinion, that is fact! Truth is never an opinion.
Thanks for the imput.

wynderer
6th May 2012, 19:35
there's a locally owned-supermarket in Ithaca, the home of Cornell U, where many little NWO things are being quietly done -- these guys & gals are always well provided for materially

when i walk into the very capacious supermarket , i always feel like i am in one of the black holes that all the sustenance of the so-called Third World countries is having siphoned out of them

so i shop at the co-op or at the poor person's supermarket

Ernie Nemeth
6th May 2012, 22:39
Its called the relative world we live in. Completely necessary for us to have the experience and also ultimately see through the illusion.
If by having blood on our hands you mean we are implicit, then I agree however the biggest mistake you can make is attaching guilt.

Thanks AndrewGreen.

Guilt is not something I can attach to anyone's lifestyle - they can do that perfectly well on their own. I only stated the fundamental truth of our society, the one that is hidden way down below the awareness of most. Perhaps the most important aspect of what I am trying to convey is how we have become dependant on our severely flawed system. So much so that we can no longer even contemplate another way.

And this brings me to another truism: the four uncontested drives of our society. These are the things that keep us getting up every day and working ourselves to the bone. These are the things we want beyond all else. We will pay any price to attain these things, including going to war, raping the environment and wasting resources.
The car, the house, the vacation, the retirement.
These are also used as the signposts of a successful life. And they are also the things used to coerce us to continue struggling despite all odds. They just happen to be the things that have skyrocketed in price and cause the most harm to our planet.

Stating these things does not make me a conveyor of guilt or shame. But I do carry each in my heart.
Of course beyond that I realize it is ultimately an illusion. I would simply rather live an illusion of peace prosperity and abundance for all the world's people, no matter where they live.

Rantaak
7th May 2012, 01:38
I don't believe in guilt but I do understand the mechanisms that have been created by the people and allowed for by the people which propagate imbalance throughout the world.

I feel that this is merely a part of the phenomena of the times we live in - teetering on the edge of impending rebirth. There are two sides to every coin - if you're skinny, you'll die in 24 hours if you don't eat anything. Everyone needs energy. But the distribution of such is imbalanced. I know there awaits a dawn wherein energy is freely and abundantly available to all.

After all, multidimensional crystal elves once informed me that everything is going to be okay and that everything is already falling into place. All we must do to prepare ourselves is to remember the smile, the laugh and the voice.

sdv
7th May 2012, 01:59
Awesome conversation.

Guilt is a very selfish emotion - all about me and what I did. If that is how people respond to Ernie's message, then they are not getting it. Empathy is a more fitting response, and to feel empathy you need to feel what it would be like to be the other. And sometimes it takes a strong and eloquent message like Ernie's to wake us up.

I wish and hope that each person who reads this thread resolves to try to be a little bit more aware every day of your impact on the world, and to look for ways to make healthier choices in everyday life - with an open heart.

mosquito
7th May 2012, 03:06
Thanks Ernie and everyone else. This is a topic I've been mulling over for years, and would like to make a contribution to this thread, but would rather wait until I have more time to produce something other than my quick-fire drivel !!!

frozen alchemy
7th May 2012, 03:45
Not to be forgotten are those who are slim and apparently healthy-looking but who smoke cigarettes to drive down their appetites, causing an increase in air pollution and health care costs for all; those who are used to thinking that a Sunday Drive (and NASCAR and other wastes of gas) are a harmless thing, not realizing the ultimate cost such profligate usage of energy is; those who live in huge houses when millions are in shacks and shanties; those who will let commercials convince them to buy things they really don't need and thus hurry along the collapse of entire ecosystems; those who value profit above sustainability because 'that's how capitalism works' not realizing the damage they are doing to the environment; and last but not least, those who eat animals they could never bring themselves to kill and butcher themselves while expecting someone else to do this soul-deadening job for them.

UnrealDreams
7th May 2012, 03:48
Good message, terrible analogy.

Replace the fat couple with a beautiful, slim, young vegan female who is too busy texting her friends on the cell phone to give a care and you get the same thing.

The price of fat is not paid for in blood, the price of ignorance is paid for in blood.

Peace and love-
Jeff

Shamz
7th May 2012, 05:08
Dear Friend

Although I loved your message and feel what you are saying... but unfortunately this world - universe and all the cosmos doesn't work like that.

For the sake of argument...lets assume ( I wish it comes true ) that Earth is a very peaceful and fulfilling planet for everyone on it... then some ETs can complain that Earth is to blame for some other planet which is not so happy/peaceful ???
I am giving this analogy... because in the big picture....in the grand scheme of things... we all are same... everywhere...in whatever form we are -- all part of the same Source.
Just trying to go back to our original home - one way or the other...swimming the sea of our Karma.

So do what you can to help others... but you can't be responsible for everyone else - nope

Love and Light

sdv
7th May 2012, 09:59
So do what you can to help others... but you can't be responsible for everyone else - nope

I struggle with that sense of responsibility to help others as well and wonder if it is not just a negative state like guilt. Actually we are only responsible for our own actions, thoughts and feelings. In my own life I find people trying to help me feels like people trying to control me and decide what is best for me.

The flip side of responsibility is to acknowledge that we are part of the problem and we are thus part of the solution. There is no excuse for us to not know what the consequences of our lifestyles and choices are, and we should care. All that is required of us is to do what we can and change what we can. Once we have that mindset then synchronicity will point us in the right direction.

We are all one but we are all different aspects of the source, and greed is an aspect that causes harm to others. Often making healthy choices for ourselves is for the good of all.

What Ernie has said and how he has said it is not going to go away. If we reject his message and choose not to wake up and be open to change, then another Ernie will come along, and another.

ulli
7th May 2012, 10:01
Great thread here, Ernie. In my view this self indulgence is due to advertising. Which in turn is due to a corporations battle to survive in a competitive world. The individual doesn't stand a chance considering that whole groups of people spend hours in boardrooms plotting how to find the best marketing strategies and hiring top sociologists, psychologists and artists to lure them into habitual consumption of their products. Fighting against habitual behavior in themselves and breaking out of these patterns is the only hope people have. In my view.

Ernie Nemeth
7th May 2012, 15:39
Dear Friend

Although I loved your message and feel what you are saying... but unfortunately this world - universe and all the cosmos doesn't work like that.

For the sake of argument...lets assume ( I wish it comes true ) that Earth is a very peaceful and fulfilling planet for everyone on it... then some ETs can complain that Earth is to blame for some other planet which is not so happy/peaceful ???
I am giving this analogy... because in the big picture....in the grand scheme of things... we all are same... everywhere...in whatever form we are -- all part of the same Source.
Just trying to go back to our original home - one way or the other...swimming the sea of our Karma.

So do what you can to help others... but you can't be responsible for everyone else - nope

Love and Light


Really good Shamz. Exactly! This is how it must inevitably be. We will spread our abundance throughout the universe one day.

Of course, right now, we are under the mistaken belief that there are no other beings on other worlds. We are also told there are no beings in other realms beyond this universe of materiality. It is much the same argument that alows us to ravage this planet of ours in the name of free market capitalism. The agreed upon argument is that anyone complaining about being left out need only start their own enterprise to reap the rewards. What they don't tell us is that established companies will do everything in their power to thwart that attempt.

And yes, I can be responsible for everyone else because otherwise they will rise against me and blow up my buildings! Or drive trucks laden with explosives into my compounds on their sovereign territory. I must be responsible for everyone else or I do not understand the very concept I most believe - that we are all one.

So, in fact, being responsible for everyone else is only being responsible for those parts of myself I mistakenly perceive as not part of myself.

mosquito
8th May 2012, 01:39
I've made it back here !!!

I agree with what you say, but it’s all too easy to lay the blame solely on the fat and greedy. Unfortunately, we are all in the position of using products produced by slave labour, but I don’t think it’s necessarily useful for us to go on a guilt trip. I’ve slowly come to the realization (and I seem to recall the author of “Uncle Tom’s Cabin” reaching the same conclusion) that slavery, in one form or another has existed throughout human history. However, that doesn’t justify it.

Five years ago, when I dumped everything out of my life and decided to live simply, I knew that I could very easily live without the unnecessary gadgets and gimmicks which “progress” has foisted on us, but also knew that there were some things, small things like soap and toilet paper which I was not going to live without. These are among the many things which those of us raised in the West have learned to take for granted. How many of us stop to think – “where does it come from ?”; “who makes it ?”; “how much do they get paid ?”. How many people actually CARE ?

I do and I like to think that some of the people on this forum do. But rather than jumping on my soap box and loudly proclaiming that “something must be done”, I’d like to mention another factor which ought to be borne in mind.

Some folk are cut out for manual labour, others aren’t. Some folk are suited to mental work, some are destined to specialize in micro-surgery; some of course are the artists and musicians which are just as vital to a healthy society as the nurses and teachers. And I believe that each person should be encouraged to find their niche, and do their work with love and passion.

So in my view, the way forward is for us to honour ALL our workers, pay everyone a decent living wage. I can’t see this happening until the currently prevailing economic system is replaced with something that actually works. And in turn, I don’t see that happening unless we have a major paradigm shift.

Philip ;)

Ernie Nemeth
8th May 2012, 02:39
Thanks so much Philip, it was worth the wait. And it comes at a most opportune time.

Of course there are many great inventions, maybe every invention has its good side. And the ingenuity of mankind knows no bounds. I would not want to go back to the dark ages and live in a hovel. My most favorite thing is the shower. I would not want to live without that, or my nice clean, soft bed either.

No, guilt is not my intention at all. And my focus was mostly for our guests who may not have realized the deeper ramifications of the society we now live in - ruled as it is by the evil monsters that call themselves the elite or whatever.

At the moment I fear for my safety and health because of my post on a thread dealing with Archons and child molestors and snuff porn. I figured I was safe posting this thread because they often do not take me seriously enough to care what I might say or do. No matter, I will deal with it. I might be a bit of an innocent but I learn quickly and I am absolutely convinced of the protection afforded by those that honor love and light and equality for all.

And on a lighter note, there is no way I'm going back to wiping my arse with fig leaves, that's for sure.

I have done what I started out to do. I pointed out the fact that we are all implicit in this conspiracy, whether by ommision or commision. None of us are free of that burden. Now, maybe we can tolerate a bit of necessary discomfort while the world rights itself. That it will right itself is beyond any doubt, and it will be very soon, IMO.

And here also I would like to pray:
Dear Lord of lords, Mother Goddess and all beings of light, hear our prayer.
I ask in the name of all that's right and fair, that our transition to a better world of peace and prosperity be swift and sure with minimal pain and suffering for all the world's peoples. Let all life find a new and true equilibrium where all are cherished for the unique contribution to the whole, and where none are left without succor and solace for the healing they need.
I especially ask for protection for those on the front lines of this struggle, who have sacrificed all for the betterment of all. Watch over our heros and saints, angels and gaurdians, and beings from other worlds and realms. And most especially grant those with budding awareness, still fresh with the tears of their internal struggles Your Diamond Sheild of Light and the Sword of Truth so that they can complete their transformation without undue and unwanted external influence.
And if it is possible and correct, allow our tormentors to see the error of their ways and grant them the ability to ask for forgiveness for their transgressions.
Thank you for listening to this your lowly servant. May Your Will be done.
And so it is.

sdv
8th May 2012, 07:40
Thanks for the prayer Ernie - it is beautiful and I am certainly going to add it to my prayer book (where I write up all the beautiful prayers I find from all and every religion and spiritual path)!

Ernie Nemeth
27th July 2015, 01:10
Now that the west has , at least in the USA, become officially morbidly obese their time is over.

Now the east will be given their chance. Perhaps they can do what we failed to do. Divide the pie evenly and fairly.

But since it is the same players that have taken their toys from our sandbox and deposited in theirs, it seems the motto will remain: business as usual.

Ernie Nemeth
5th December 2020, 21:38
Freedom is just another word for nothing left to loose. That is the cost of fat.

It is no longer correct speech to talk about the largess and apathy that comes with storing fat, as the giant red warning attests to at the beginning of this thread. So thanks for that highlight.

The west has a lot to loose, and so they are not free. They must pay lip service to freedom, because the cost of freedom is the opposite of the cost of fat. One expends energy, one stores it for another day.

Americans in particular are fat with their success. False money masters have invented a false world complete with a false narrative that often defies common sense. And they have become bloated by largess, and fearful for their status. And since the common citizen follows the lead of their betters they emulate their heroes, pretending they are little land barons and financiers themselves - as if the system works the same for their little money and their paltry land holdings and their non-existent political influence save for one inconsequential vote every several years. All while the money masters gleefully support the false efforts of the unwashed masses and continue to feed the hysteria of wealth, the business of consumption, and the life of the time-fraught plebe.

Freedom costs exactly the same as accumulated fat. It is one or the other. Freedom must be defended. It costs time and effort. It requires a commitment to an ideal and gratitude for its success. It requires steadfast vigilance against the slightest threat. Freedom has to be defended from threats both foreign and domestic. How can that be done if it is a hate crime to point out the obvious? How can groups be 'special' if we are free? If they are 'special' and we are all free then does the specially designated have more or less of it?

To defend freedom requires the suspension of regular activities. It requires circling the wagons. It requires sacrifice. It might require loss of status and wealth. For those that have acquired much, these requirements are not an option. And so they are shackled by their largess.

The thing they think makes them free is the thing that keeps freedom forever out of reach. It need not be that way forever, but it needs to be that way right now. It will happen either way, anyway. Our freedoms are being taken away as we speak - and they will never return without a concerted resistance. But we could rise to the occasion, give up our shiny trinkets, and fight for freedom before it fades from our lives. Freedom to choose your profession and your lifetime earnings in the process is not freedom, it is tyranny disguised as choice.

We cannot look to our betters because they are fat. The system works for them and they have no interest in true freedom, where their status would most certainly suffer, as would their lifestyle.

Power is not given up freely, and one vote every several years changes nothing. Fat does not burn off on its own, and a single salad won't help. It takes commitment and perseverance with a clear goal for the future.

The cost of fat is freedom.

thepainterdoug
6th December 2020, 13:13
hi Ernie/ i do get you intent and observations. but how would one fix it? we live as a society which in my mind is an agreed upon set of rules for the benefit of the whole.

we are not as wild animals getting up everyday to kill , eat, survive and protect our property and home. we have laws that the majority seem to live by for our collective protection.

so we are naturally disconnected to certain realites we all benefit from. When you drive down a highway, you didnt build it, you didnt make the asphalt. who did? did they suffer in doing so?
the trash man comes in the early hours to remove the trash . do we know what he is going thru? is he being used by us?

so everyday we have become accustomed to living, without knowing the extensions we depend on.

i do my best on being mindful of all this everyday.
I just dont know how we can fix this issue other than living modestly and with gratitude

Ernie Nemeth
6th December 2020, 18:53
I think to fix a thing you first have to have a 'fix' on the thing. It is important to know the stakes and if a course of action is required it can be an informed decision.

It would have been easier to thwart the efforts of the globalists 60 years ago but the issue did not seem as urgent back then. Since then the push towards globalism has only intensified and accelerated. It came in small increments; it crept into our lives unbidden.

As an example, the sexual revolution shouldered its way into the puritanical living rooms of the masses through the media's new darling, the television. It did not explode onto the scene with explicit sex acts, no. The public had to be eased into the liberal norms of a global society, with a kiss here, a playful slap on the rump there, to off color innuendos, to suggestive sex scenes, to an exposed breast, and further and further to today's immodest offerings.

In the 60s, if a man and a woman were ever to have been caught on camera together on a bed in any position, including sitting on it, there would have been public outrage and most probably rioting in the streets. Imagine what would have happened if almost any regularly scheduled show from today was aired back then. People would have gone ballistic.

Here's the point - and they would not have put up with it either. They would have been outraged, and they would have gathered in numbers and marched to the capital if that's what it took. But they would not have stopped until they won, and rightly so.


To understand that the same way that they have trained our minds to be tolerant of liberal sexual deviancy, or dalliances if one prefers, is how they have trained us in many other aspects of our lives that we are not aware of at all, or maybe only peripherally and in passing.

We are enthralled by a system whose design is the purposeful manipulation of the human condition on planet earth.

Whether that system extends beyond this realm to include a larger reality remains to be seen. But the signs of the system and its intent are evident and the clues to its existence and scope become clear with systemic investigation.

Since we are under a spell, the spell must be broken. The only way that can happen is if some element of the truth sneaks up and hems the person in, so to speak, and the person is forced to face that truth and integrate it. Sometimes that trick can shock the person right out of the spell. The title of this thread and how the idea is twisted in an unanticipated direction hopefully strengthens the analogy and clarifies the message.

We have to drop this way of life before we consume the entire planet and turn it all into a giant garbage dump :-o

The globalists believe the best way to do that is to eliminate the vast majority of the human family. Our lives these last sixty years have been tabulated and assessed. The lists have been approved. The stock will be culled accordingly.


Given the severity of the consequences, the cost of doing nothing is too dear. With clouded eyes and befuddled mind the easy road seems cheery and bright but the easy road in fact leads to doom and annihilation.

If the cost of fat is freedom, if the cost of our modern lives is perpetual enslavement, is the trade-off equitable? That is the question.

If we want the benefits of this modern world to extend to the human family we must strive towards it with purposeful action. Right now the problem is the global corruption that hampers our ability to unite for a common cause with common sense.

The globalists have driven a wedge into the midst of the human family, as their goal is division.

A house divided cannot stand. We must unite.

That is how it gets fixed. By starting a dialogue rooted in the common cause, global corruption. That cause will mushroom out of control if it can gain traction. An open and honest discussion, with actionable reprisals and remedies, will lead to some very interesting solutions I am sure.

Including a new way, a better way, an inclusive way forward for all.

To fix this thing we must reject the narrative of division, but more importantly we have to value freedom enough to strive for it - at any and all cost.

The time is now. The key element is you! Break the spell of social antipathy and counter it with a solo epiphany.

At this time in this place the cost of fat is too high.

Lunesoleil
6th December 2020, 21:48
I would say that junk food is part of the lifestyle of many Americans and that tends to develop in France among young people. It is visible in the summer for girls with T-shirts stopping above the navel. New fashion to save a piece of fabric.
Eating well is now a budget to eat well, so junk food is basically a question of quality replaced by a quantity that compensates for a social and political problem.
Today 90% of the food in supermarkets is processed, which means that many consumers buy ready-to-eat food and no longer bother to cook, that is the real problem of our so-called modern society ...
:Avalon:

thepainterdoug
6th December 2020, 22:22
Yes Lunesoleil, the answers are out there. they are always out there, for those who seek them.