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qbeac
6th May 2012, 15:14
Hi everyone, we (regular people) cannot arrest the elite. That’s obvious!

But we (the masses), as a huge group of billions of individuals, also have a certain ‘power’ because there is power in numbers, and we can join together to inform and to support in many different ways all sort of influential and high level honest people who have the capacity of doing that task (arresting the elite). And those people would be, for instance: military personnel, police officers, Federal Marshals, Sheriffs, militias, local officials at town halls, etc.

So, this thread proposes a proactive attitude as opposed to a passive attitude:


http://www.wordmagicsoft.com/dictionary/en-es/proactive.php

Definition of proactive: Controlling a situation by causing something to happen rather than waiting to respond to it after it happens.

Drake talks about that too, about what each one of us can do to help the common good, and he encourages us to join in and help in this team effort.

JFK talked about that too:


“Ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country”

"Let every nation know... that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, to assure the survival and the success of liberty."

"All this will not be finished in the first 100 days. Nor will it be finished in the first 1,000 days, nor in the life of this Administration, nor even perhaps in our lifetime on this planet. But let us begin."

John F. Kennedy

When people talk about the problems in the world, we hear different kinds of opinions. Some people say: “What can we do to help?” Others say: “We can do nothing!” Others say: “We can do at least something instead of nothing!”

But if there was NOTHING we could do to help, why coming to this forum in the first place? If we really couldn’t do anything at all, this forum (and other similar ones) would be a waste of time and we’d better close it and go do something else: play, watch TV, sleep, etc.

But no, this forum is not a waste of time, and any little thing anybody can do to help isn’t either. Every little piece of help is valuable and welcome because it can help to change the final outcome. It’s like a summation of forces: all of them count, big and small!

So, this is an idea of SOMETHING anybody could do to help:


Anybody can send e-mails to high level and influential honest people to inform them and alert them of what’s going on in the world, and ask them to please join in and help.

We could inform them about 911-inside job; Drake & Co. efforts to arrest the elite, David Wilcock’s articles (Financial Tyranny); About the basic videos where they explain the illuminati conspiracy: “Freedom to Fascism”, by Aaron Russo; “The Money Masters”, by Bill Still; “911 Mysteries”; “THRIVE”; “Zeitgeist”; the www.AE911TRUTH.org………. etc.

After that, two things could happen:


1) Once informed, those high level people don’t do anything about it. Nothing, nada!

Then, forget it, because this civilization is probably not worthy of moving up to the next level of evolution and might have to be reseted and start all over again (as what happened to Atlantis?).

2) Once informed, there is a critical mass of high level people who are honest, wise and brave enough, and who decide to do something about it supported by us: the critical mass of millions of aware and awake regular people.

Then, this civilization might be worthy of moving up to the next level of evolution, and we may even have a BIG PARTY at the end to celebrate it.

One more thing:


If you listen to what the Electrical Engineer Pedro Gaete has to say (see links below), and in case he happens to be correct (we don’t know for sure but there is a probability he could be), then, this would be a race against the clock (as it was also explained in the Anglo Saxon Mission).

So, who will win the race? Who will neutralize whom first? Will humanity wake up first and stop the elite, or will the elite nock us down first definitively?

Post 1. The Elite’s Secret Plan to Artificially Provoke Dec-2012 Cataclysm Revealed…?
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44492-The-Elite--s-Secret-Plan-to-Artificially-Provoke-Dec-2012-Cataclysm-Revealed--

Post 17, pag. 1. The elite might have the means, motive and opportunity to provoke an artificial global cataclysm on Dec-12
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44492-The-Elite--s-Secret-Plan-to-Artificially-Provoke-Dec-2012-Cataclysm-Revealed--&p=481379&viewfull=1#post481379


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Now then, I’ve done a google search and I’ve realized that it is relatively easy to collect thousands of public e-mail addresses from USA military personnel (Note: I don’t mean private e-mail addresses, but e-mail addresses that are already openly published in military websites).

This is how you do it:

Google search: us military email address
http://www.google.es/search?num=100&hl=es&site=webhp&q=us+military+email+address&oq=us+military+e-mail&aq=1L&aqi=g-L2g-lvL1&aql=&gs_l=serp.1.1.0i19l2j0i13i15i19.8918.10435.0.13399 .7.5.0.0.0.0.576.1498.1j1j0j2j0j1.5.0...0.0.IBNGPS 0FVqs

The following website explains how to get public military e-mail addresses:


Email Our Troops! Soldiers, Sailors, Marines, Coast Guardsmen and Airmen
http://www.usafns.com/email.shtml

In that website they explain that many USA military e-mails addresses at the Army Mil website end with the letters “@us.army.mil” (Note: although each different military website may have its own different e-mail address ending. You’ll just have to search it with google and see the e-mail ending of each military website), like this:


Template: [firstname].[lastname]@us.army.mil
Example: John Smith's US Army Email address would be john.smith@us.army.mil

Google search: “@us.army.mil”

That search yields 1.300.000 results with tons of public military e-mail addresses:

http://www.google.es/search?num=100&hl=es&site=webhp&q=%22%40us.army.mil%22&oq=%22%40us.army.mil%22&aq=f&aqi=g-C1&aql=&gs_l=serp.12..0i33.355345.356362.0.360588.3.3.0.0. 0.0.264.633.0j2j1.3.0...0.0.0Lf1mHWl7aE

They are also for sale: Millions of harvested U.S government and U.S military email addresses offered for sale
http://blog.webroot.com/2012/03/16/millions-of-harvested-u-s-government-and-u-s-military-email-addresses-offered-for-sale/

I think there are also automatic harvesting programs to collect public (not private) e-mail addresses. If anybody knows how to use them, please, let us know.

qbeac
6th May 2012, 15:18
Well, the following list of e-mails addresses is composed of public e-mails from military personnel and other types of public officials, both from the USA and from Europe.

I must emphasize that these USA military e-mails addresses are not private, but public, since they were all published in official military websites and anybody can find them using a simple google search (as I explained in Post #1).

I insist: all the e-mail addresses of the following list are already openly published in different websites, and non of them were obtained privately or by any other means (hacking, etc.).

So, I’d like to ask permission from Bill Ryan and the moderators of this forum to publish this list of e-mail addresses in this thread. But in case they think it is not appropriate, I’d like to ask any other user if they could publish that list in a private blog so that we can all have access to it.

In that case, I could post in this thread the link to that blog with the list of e-mail addresses.

It would also be nice if there were people with computer programming skills who could help organize and update that long list of military e-mails: to put them in order so that they are not repeated, to update the list, etc.

Thanks.

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LIST OF PUBLIC E-MAILS ADDRESSES FROM INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE AND INSTITUTIONS IN SOCIETY:

Note: the following list is just a small sample of the tons of public e-mail addresses from USA military personnel published in military websites that anybody can find using a simple google search, as it is explained at the end of Post #1.

* Public e-mail addresses from USA military personnel at the “US Army War Collage”

They can be google searched using the extention “@conus.army.mil” in the following website:
Web: http://www.carlisle.army.mil/

...
* Public e-mail addresses from USA military personnel at Army.mil - Official site of the United States Army
http://www.army.mil/

Google search for: "@us.army.mil" site:www.army.mil

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[Mod-edit: I deleted the actual list of email addresses above. As another poster notes below, supporting what might be considered to be email spamming of .mil addresses could just cause the military to block its members from viewing this site. That would be an unfortunate unintended consequence. -Paul.]

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IMPORTANT NOTICE:

A small sample list (Note: obtained by a simple google search) of about 260 public e-mail addresses from USA military personnel and about 300 high level people in Europe has been posted in the following Spanish forum:


Post 66, pag 7. List of many public e-mail addresses from USA military personnel
http://www.burbuja.info/inmobiliaria/conspiraciones/303370-desvelado-misterio-cataclismo-dic-2012-elite-quiere-provocar-artificialmente-7.html#post6318713

Post 65, pag 7. List of many public e-mail addresses from high level people in Europe (government, media, etc.)
http://www.burbuja.info/inmobiliaria/conspiraciones/303370-desvelado-misterio-cataclismo-dic-2012-elite-quiere-provocar-artificialmente-7.html#post6318631


The instructions of how to obtain those public e-mail addresses using a simple google search is posted in Post #1 of this thread.

If anyone of you would like to complete and expand that list by google searching for more high level people public e-mail addresses from USA, Europe or other countries, please, let us know and I can post the additional public e-mail addresses in the previous Spanish forum. Thanks.

qbeac
6th May 2012, 15:22
I reserve this post to publish the long list of public e-mail addresses in case Bill Ryan and the moderators don't mind.

In case they object, I would ask somebody to please publish the list in a private blog or website, and I’ll link to it here.

Thanks.

RMorgan
6th May 2012, 15:38
Hey mate,

If you manage to gather a really large group of persons, I mean really large, like millions, under the single purpose of destroying the so called elite, then you don´t need to do any sophisticated maneuver, send any emails or do any petitions.

You just have to do one thing. One single thing. Just tell every single person of this group to simply close their bank accounts! That´s all! Do it, and the "elite" is done!

It´s really that simple.

Now, as I´ve told before, it wont be easy, because most people are pretty good in sending emails and complaining, but pretty lazy about getting their hands dirty.

I just ask one thing. Does anyone here, who believes mass arrests, white hats, this sorts of things, and supports Drakes/Wilcock/Fulford, actually still have a bank account?

I mean, closing your bank account is a much more realistic and efficient approach to bleed the bankers to death than arresting them!

Even better! Ask Drake, Wilcock and Fulford, if they have bank accounts! I bet they have!

So, things are simple and complex at the same time.

Things are simple because it only requires a single individual action to change things forever. Things are complex because no one wants to act!

People want to remove the elite and arrest the bankers, but people don´t want to stop supporting their services! Now, that´s impossible! It´s just a big hypocrisy and incoherence!

How the hack is it possible to want to brake a thing and, at same time, want to continue using it!

It´s the same thing as someone saying: "Oh, I hate my car! What a piece of crap! I will blow it up with dynamite today, but tomorrow I´ll use it again to go to work, because I hate to walk!" How is that possible?

Folks, publicly complaining and transferring your responsibilities to others is very easy and makes you look like a cool political activist, but, besides that, it doesn´t changes nothing.

Action changes things, but acting requires real sacrifices.

Please, raise you hand if you complain about the banks and still use their services!

Please,Raise your hands if you complain about the soulless big corporations, like oil companies and car companies, but you´re too lazy to stop buying fuel, stop using your car and going to work on foot or riding a bike!

We all know the problems, we all know the solutions, but we´re all too lazy to act. That´s it.

If any of you think I´m wrong, I´m really interested in listening to your arguments.

Being "awake" is a very fashionable word these days. But how can someone be "awake", if the same person is still enjoying and loving the so many conveniences and comforts of the dream?

Self proclaimed "awakened" people is not what we need, and it´s nothing more than a warm ego massage.

It´s just like the guy I saw the other day, on a pro-socialism parade, wearing a Che Guevara t-shirt and filming it with his brand new iphone. Pure hypocrisy. Pathetic.

Please folks, stop typing words on a keyboard to pretend you´re actually doing something, while you have a big coca-cola bottle on your fridge, you´re loving your brand new ipad, you´re enjoying the comforts of your bank account or the convenience of your beloved car, because this is not helping at all.

Cheers,

Raf.

qbeac
7th May 2012, 12:28
Hi everyone, I’ve talked to a moderator about publishing the long list of public e-mails addresses from high level people in the military, etc., and he told me it was ok to post at least part of the list (not the full one if it was too long), and also he was concerned that this project does not become a call for violence.

So, this is my response to that moderator:

Reply to PM 1:

Hi, thank you. And don’t worry about that [a call for violence] because my point of view is that this needs to be a PEACEFUL Re-Evolution. Not a classical “revolution” but a “New Evolution”, a peaceful one, a new evolutionary process for humanity.

The idea of sending e-mails to high level people in the military, etc., is only to inform them of what’s going on (in case some of them still don’t know) and to ask them for help to arrest the elite, but in a peaceful and civilized manner.

Well, and also to tell those high level people from the military: “Hey, we (millions of regular people) know what’s going on, and we support you [to do the mass arrests]. Go for it!”

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Reply to PM 2:

Ok, that’s fine, so what I’ll do is to post only part of the public e-mail addresses from different military and official websites (from USA and Europe), and I’ll do that only in Posts #2 and #3 of that [this] thread, and not in any other posts.

That would be like showing people a sample of the list so that they can see and realize it is possible to obtain those types of public e-mails addresses using a simple google search.

And for the rest of the e-mail addresses, I won’t publish them in the forum, but I’ll ask for help from people with computer programming skills to set up a blog or something where the rest of the list could published, put in order, updated, etc.

Please, if somebody with computer skills could set up a blog to publish all the e-mail addresses, or knows how to order it (perhaps with Excell?), etc., contact me. Thanks.

P.S. I am going to organize a little bit the current list, and will post it in Posts #2 and #3 of this thread probably later today.

turiya
7th May 2012, 15:28
I am with RMorgan. The way to be proactive, its simple. The checkout at the grocery store is actually your voting booth. Every time you make a purchase, you are casting your vote. You want to vote for corporations, then keep buying their products. If you want to vote for the small farmers, mom & pop stores & local businesses, then buy their products. Close your Federal Reserve affiliated bank accounts & open up an account at your local credit union. Stop using plastic, stop feeding the money/debt system. Live within your means. Stop complaining. Start using your head.

Best regards, turiya


Hey mate,

If you manage to gather a really large group of persons, I mean really large, like millions, under the single purpose of destroying the so called elite, then you don´t need to do any sophisticated maneuver, send any emails or do any petitions.

You just have to do one thing. One single thing. Just tell every single person of this group to simply close their bank accounts! That´s all! Do it, and the "elite" is done!

It´s really that simple.
Cheers,

Raf.

qbeac
7th May 2012, 19:18
Hi people, in Post #2 I’ve posted a small sample of public e-mail addresses from USA military personnel which were obtained from different military websites using a simple google search, as explained at the end of Post #1.

But if you do an in depth google search, you could find hundreds/thousands more similar e-mail addresses.

I still need to add another similar sample list of high level people from Europe, which I’ll post in Post #3.

Please, if anybody with computer skills could help organize all those e-mails addresses (put them in order using Excell...?, set up a blog to post the complete list, etc.), let us know.

Thanks.

GoodETxSG
7th May 2012, 22:21
:whoo:

We can do small things like CLOSE your BANK account and open one at a Credit Union, You can get up off of your butt and gather hard evidence, the kind you know your friends will pay attention to, give it a try, if they do not respond move on.

Prepare your family for changes by having everything you need to survive if things shut down for a while... Form a group for you local area on meetup.com or blogs like this and start forming a plan using each of your talents... Make signs and stand out in front of companies that are the evil do'ers... and rotate around to a different company/organization and watch your numbers grow. BE NON violent like Gandhi...

DO SOMETHING to help the cause or SHUT UP and stop complaining... Become a part of the solution and not a part of a chorus of people bitching and whining... boo hoo etc. If you expect others to fight ALL of your battles you will never be on the side of the victor. Really, contribute and do something for the good of your brothers and sisters... most of all AVOID the divisions that the Political process is designed to cause... You are NOT a DEM, you are NOT a REP... You are an AMERICAN! Act like one and stand up for your right (Wise words from the great Bob Marley)!!!

That’s it... that is all you have to do... simple is it not? Well it should be a simple decision to make, escape from the slave mentality that you have been programmed with your whole life. PLEASE!


Much love people, just WAKE UP!

GoodETxSG
7th May 2012, 22:38
Well, the following list of e-mails addresses is composed of public e-mails from military personnel and other types of public officials, both from the USA and from Europe.


ALL this will do is cause Avalon and sites like it to be blocked totally and Military people will not have access to this info especially while deployed. It will cause more problems than it would solve... NOT a good idea MODS... Take my word for it please.

Fred Steeves
7th May 2012, 22:40
Hi everyone, we (regular people) cannot arrest the elite. That’s obvious!

But we (the masses), as a huge group of billions of individuals, also have a certain ‘power’ because there is power in numbers, and we can join together to inform and to support in many different ways all sort of influential and high level honest people who have the capacity of doing that task (arresting the elite). And those people would be, for instance: military personnel, police officers, Federal Marshals, Sheriffs, militias, local officials at town halls, etc.


In my best(not so good) Yoda voice to Luke Skywalker qbeac: "That, is why you fail". In the very first paragraph of your well thought out post, you have voluntarily given away your Creator Power to "people who have the capacity". Thus, the game is automatically over by default before it begins.
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qbeac
8th May 2012, 06:14
Hi everyone, I’ve read the comments some of you have made saying this is not a good idea (the one explained in Post #1 of this thread). I respect your point of view but mine is different, and let me explain something which is a fact of life and it is empirically proven, and I know it not because I have heard of it, but because I have experienced it myself first hand:

It is a fact that there are still many influential people in society who could help building a better world, but who are not yet aware and awake and, therefore, they remain passive.

And the reason why they aren’t still aware and awake is simply because nobody has informed them or because they have not yet found the suppressed information by themselves (Ex: 911 = inside job, the illuminati conspiracy, the banking system fraud…. etc., etc., etc.)

And let me give you some specific real examples:

- In my town, I have several friends who are policemen and military who are aware and awake, and I know for a fact that many of their friends inside the police and military forces (both regular policemen and police “bosses”) DO NOT know yet about the suppressed info (the illuminati conspiracy, etc.). My friends tell me that’s due in part to the fact that nobody has told them about it or because they haven’t taken the time to inform themselves, and that’s why they still believe the official version of events (Ex: the lie that Bin Laden did 911) and don’t realize they (we) all have been fooled.

- Exactly the same thing as above happens with local politicians I personally know (I have some family members in local political parties), and also with very high level politicians on a national level who are honest (as far as I know) and who live in my town and with whom I have personally spoken about this matters (that’s why I know for a fact that’s the case).

Btw, do you know how Jesse Ventura found out about the illuminati conspiracy (911 inside job, etc.)?

Answer: Because his son told him about it (Jesse explains this himself in a video). His son insisted: “father, watch this video… father, watch this video… etc.”

So, Jesse’s son did a great job by the proactive attitude of telling his father (Jesse) what was really going on in the world when his father (Jesse) still didn’t know about it even though he was the Governor of Minnesota.

Jesse’s son could have sat down and waited passively till his father found out by himself. But not, Jesse’s son went ahead and TOLD his father about it. Jesse’s son SHOWED Jesse the info. And that’s great!

That is solid proof that highly influential honest people can be highly misinformed!

That’s also solid proof that the proactive attitude of TELLING others about the suppressed info and SHOWING it to them, is a good and useful thing to do to help to awaken people and to help the common good.

Therefore: it is indeed good to politely inform others (as this thread proposes).

Btw, maybe Jesse’s son informed his father by e-mail, as this thread proposes to do with other influential people in society? If that was the case (at least sometimes), that was a perfectly legitimate and useful thing to do on the part of Jesse’s son: he used the tool of Internet (sending e-mails and links, etc.) for the common good.

Well, the same thing applies to the idea proposed on Post #1-#2-#3 of this thread.

Another important subject: debunkers.

There are professional debunkers who are always very much interested in attacking, blocking, discrediting, making fun of, and suppressing the spreading of good ideas and initiatives regarding the suppressed information. That’s what happens in many Internet forums, and anybody who has participated in Internet forums is aware of this fact and has probably seen many specific examples of it.

Another vital fact: MSM collective deception.

If more high level people who are honest, wise, and brave were aware and awake, the situation in the world would have changed for the better a long time ago. But it hasn’t because the illuminati have been very clever in taking control of most of the MSM (Mainstream Media) and most sources of “quality and reliable” information in order to keep us misinformed, fooled, and under MIND control, because they control the information the masses receive on a daily bases.

And the previous situation applies both to regular people as well as high level people: all of us have been victims of this BIG collective illuminati deception.

Therefore, if we help to dissolve the deception, that will surely help the common good.


CONCLUSIONS


- Based on the above considerations, there is no doubt that it is a useful thing to do to inform others, especially to high level people, and to do it on a proactive manner, that is, politely talking to them and showing them the info about what is going on in the world. And if more people would do that (inform others and especially high level people), the better would be and the faster we would achieve a better world.

- The list of e-mail addresses posted on Post #2 is public knowledge, they are not private e-mail addresses, they are not hidden, they are published in different military websites and anybody can find those e-mails using a simple google search.

- But perhaps some people didn’t know those public e-mails addresses existed or could be easily found with a simple google search. I didn’t know it until I found them.

- Therefore, the proactive action of facilitating other people access to the knowledge of the existence of those e-mail addresses, just in case they would like to send them an e-mail to politely inform them, is a perfectly legal, useful, and legitimate thing to do.

- If other people prefer to do other types of legal, useful, and legitimate things in order to help getting a better world (Ex: riding a bicycle to save gasoline, trying not to use bank accounts, buying from local stores, etc., etc.), that’s perfect and fine too. Go for it!

- In other words, there is not a single way or a single thing that we can do to help the common good, but a multiplicity of ways.

- So, just choose your own way (as Frank Sinatra used to say), the one you like best and feel more comfortable with. And in the case of people who are not debunkers, why would they want to criticize the legitimate ways others choose to take in order to help the common good?

qbeac
8th May 2012, 21:39
yesterday I listened to part of a radio interview with Drake in which he explained some sort of issue he had with Kerry and/or Camelot (issue I didn’t really understand too well), and now I go to Kerry’s blog and read this note:


Kerry's Blog. I SPOKE WITH DRAKE THIS EVENING
Monday, 07 May 2012 23:06. Written by Kerry Cassidy
http://projectcamelotportal.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1064:i-spoke-with-drake-this-evening&catid=31&Itemid=218#comments

Excerpt: Considering the magnitude fo [of] the misunderstanding on Drake's part, I decided to cut to the chase and call him this evening….snip… He has given me permission to write the following:

"Drake recognizes he had the wrong party, it was Avalon... Drake has agreed to read my post tomorrow morning his time and post a retraction/apology tomorrow on his Facebook."

Please, does anybody know what has happened between Drake and Avalon?

Was Drake perhaps trying to register at Avalon to explain his POV, or what happened? Has he attempted to register? If so, will he be allowed to… or what’s the problem...???

Is there a summary of the incident somewhere?

Paul
9th May 2012, 01:11
ALL this will do is cause Avalon and sites like it to be blocked totally and Military people will not have access to this info especially while deployed. It will cause more problems than it would solve... NOT a good idea MODS... Take my word for it please.
Good point, Corey.

But, dang, I wish you had Reported http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/buttons/report-40b.png your post, or an earlier post in this thread, with your concern.

The odds were substantially less than 50-50 of any mod noticing your post. As threads go, this one is not the most engaging reading - a list of email addresses :).

I will put your post in the Report queue now, for the mods to discuss.

Thanks.

Paul
9th May 2012, 03:50
Well, the following list of e-mails addresses is composed of public e-mails from military personnel and other types of public officials, both from the USA and from Europe.
As noted in a Mod-edit to Post #2 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44759-Let--s-help-Drake-Co----Ask-not-what---snip---ask-what-you-can-do-for-your-country---JFK&p=482850&viewfull=1#post482850) of this thread, and after discussing it with the mod team, I have deleted the actual list of email addresses from that post.

As another poster noted above, supporting what might be considered to be email spamming of .mil addresses could just cause the military to block its members from viewing this site. That would be an unfortunate and unintended consequence.

Sorry for the run around qbeac ... I realize the mod team (myself included) gave you permission to post those email addresses a day ago. I think I called that one wrong.

Paul
9th May 2012, 03:59
Well, the following list of e-mails addresses is composed of public e-mails from military personnel and other types of public officials, both from the USA and from Europe.
There is a difference between providing one or two publicly visible email addresses in a particular context, which invites contact on that particular context, and scraping a large number of email addresses with an invitation to "spam" them in bulk - meaning sending them email which they have not expressed an interest in receiving.

qbeac
9th May 2012, 09:34
Hi Paul, by the things you and others say in this thread, it seems that this particular thread (or its proposal) may cause differences of opinions in people. But that’s what forums are for, to peacefully express our different opinions, aren’t they?

And those differences have a lot to do with the meaning of the words we each use to communicate concepts and ideas and how each person interprets those words.

For instance, what is exactly the definition of spam?

When can a particular piece of information (whatever) be considered spam, or when cannot? When is it appropriate or inappropriate to do something (whatever)? When should a particular action or project or initiative be considered legal or illegal, legitimate or illegitimate, lawful or unlawful, ethical or unethical, moral or unmoral, necessary or unnecessary, convenient or inconvenient, etc.?

And the distinction between those two polarities (good versus bad, up versus down, etc.), and also the appreciation of the scale of “greys” in between, is of extreme importance.

For instance, so far, about 60% of the people who have voted in the Poll think that:


3a- I’d like to help by informing influential honest people of what’s going on in the world

(supported by about 60% of the voters, May-9-2012)

And we may ask: If that’s what they want to do using their freewill (to politely “inform influential honest people of what’s going on in the world”), is it appropriate or inappropriate, legitimate or illegitimate, ethical or unethical, etc.… that those 60% are given help to contact the influential people?

And at this point some people may think “sure”, others “no”, others “maybe”, and others “depends”.

So, what I think we could do is to give the members of this Avalon forum the opportunity to freely express their opinions about this matter, that is, about whether they think the proposal of this thread is one thing or the other: appropriate or inappropriate, moral or unmoral, ethical or unethical, convenient or inconvenient, etc., etc.

In order to do that, I’ve open a new thread so that everybody can freely express their own opinions about this topic:

Do you think we regular people have the right to contact our high level representatives?
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44919-Do-you-think-we-regularpeople-have-the-right-tocontact-our-highlevel-representatives

qbeac
11th May 2012, 04:59
Hi people, I’ve just found an excellent thread to support Drake’s plan to arrest the elite, this is it:


The Anti-Cabal Action Plan
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1824953/pg1

In Post #1, user Geologic says:

“…One of the other thread here had a tiny excerpt of my notes from the Wilcock/Drake interview - where I referred to the Anti-Cabal Action Plan (ACAP)…”

And if any of you would like to support Drake’s plan, one thing that anybody can do is to send a polite e-mail to as many high level people as possible to inform them about what’s going on in the world (Drake’s plan, 911 = inside job, etc.). Some of them might be honest people who will listen, wake up, and do something about it.

To facilitate that action, in the following 2 posts you’ll find a long list of public e-mail addresses (not private addresses, they can be obtained by a simple google search) from high level people in USA and Europe:


Post 66, pag 7. List of many public e-mail addresses from USA military personnel
http://www.burbuja.info/inmobiliaria/conspiraciones/303370-desvelado-misterio-cataclismo-dic-2012-elite-quiere-provocar-artificialmente-7.html#post6318713

Post 65, pag 7. List of many public e-mail addresses from high level people in Europe (government, media, etc.)
http://www.burbuja.info/inmobiliaria/conspiraciones/303370-desvelado-misterio-cataclismo-dic-2012-elite-quiere-provocar-artificialmente-7.html#post6318631

In the previous Spanish forum (burbuja) somebody also thinks that this proposal is a good idea. I’ll translate the short post where it says so:


Post #67. http://www.burbuja.info/inmobiliaria/conspiraciones/303370-desvelado-misterio-cataclismo-dic-2012-elite-quiere-provocar-artificialmente-7.html#post6319938

User antartida says:

“I guess you will do it [Note: to send a polite e-mail to as many high level people as possible in USA and Europe], please tell us if you receive an answer, even negative. Surely, if all these [high level] people will listen to the truth at least once, there is a good chance there will be rapid progress. Let’s see what happens.

Thanks and encouragement”

qbeac
12th May 2012, 18:04
So far, and according to this poll, there is still a majority of people who say:


3a- I’d like to help by informing influential honest people of what’s going on in the world
Voters: 54.84%

And in the following poll, 100% of the voters think that doing that is legal, legitimate, lawful, ethical, moral, appropriate, convenient, necessary, and it is not spam.


Do you think we (regular people) have the right to contact our high level representatives to inform them about grave issues? And is it appropriate that we do it?
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44919-Do-you-think-we-regularpeople-have-the-right-tocontact-our-highlevel-representatives

So, for those of you who would like to do that, and in order to facilitate you that task, in post #17 of this thread you’ll find the links to a list of many public e-mails addresses of high level people from the USA and Europe.

qbeac
17th May 2012, 14:59
Hi people, I’ve seen the following message about the mass arrests on the following website, but I do not know if the message really comes from Drake or not, and I cannot find the original link to the message.


http://nesaranews.blogspot.com.es/2012/05/drake.html
May-17-2012

Hello All:

If we all help pass the information on. We will be helping the ones doing the legal part to rid us of those that would control us. The arrest should start in the next few days.

God Bless Love to all

Drake

Does anyone know if Drake is the original author of this message, or if it is just disinfo…???

qbeac
19th May 2012, 10:57
This is interesting! Kerry Cassidy has published a proposal which, in essence, is similar to the one this thread proposes: it encourages regular people to contact as many high level people as possible to inform them about grave and important topics. In the case of this thread, the subject is Drake’s plan to arrest the elite, etc., and in Kerry’s case, the subject is Bradley Manning.

Kerry’s proposal even goes two steps further because it offers a website where the task of contacting high level people is facilitated by two things: (a) a Facebook ad campaign to encourage as many regular people as possible to send letters to media outlets, and (b) an automatic software tool to help regular people contacting as many media outlets as possible:


HELP BRADLEY MANNING: NOTIFY LOCAL MEDIA TO COVER HIS TRIAL!!!
http://projectcamelotportal.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1084:get-local-media-to-bradley-manning-s-trial&catid=31&Itemid=218

Thank you so much for writing a letter to the editor encouraging your media to increase its coverage of Pfc. Bradley Manning’s trial. We need your help to build this campaign:

CLICK HERE TO SEND LETTERS... it's easy and they do most all the work for you!

https://secure.firedoglake.com/page/contribute/manning_ads?source=em&subsource=v1

That's why we're running targeted Facebook ads urging Bradley Manning supporters to request their local media outlets cover his next pre-trail hearing. We've even put together an easy-to-use online media contact tool that will allow people to get in touch with their local news outlets in a matter of moments.

Media contact tool:
http://action.firedoglake.com/page/speakout/manning-coverage

So, the question is:

Does anybody consider the proposal of this thread (about Drake) to be spam, inappropriate, illegitimate, unethical, etc., but Kerry’s proposal (about Bradley Manning) not to be spam, and be appropriate, legitimate, ethical, etc.? Or both are? Or both aren’t? Why?

I don’t know about you, but my personal opinion is the same as 100% of the voters of this thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44919-Do-you-think-we-regularpeople-have-the-right-tocontact-our-highlevel-representatives

Also, is there anybody with computer programming skills who could set up a similar automatic tool as the one indicated in Kerry Cassidy’s website, but for the Drake’s case?

qbeac
20th May 2012, 16:53
In my best(not so good) Yoda voice to Luke Skywalker qbeac: "That, is why you fail". In the very first paragraph of your well thought out post, you have voluntarily given away your Creator Power to "people who have the capacity". Thus, the game is automatically over by default before it begins.
Hi Fred Steeves, let me see if I understand your POV correctly. I’ll explain how I’ve understood it (and please, correct me if I am wrong) with an analogy:

Let’s suppose you witness any of the following problematic situations which are all beyond your capacity to solve them all by yourself (Note: a single person doesn’t have the resources or the expertise to fix them):


You are travelling down the road and several cars in front of you have a bad accident with a lot of injured people; You are in a children’s school and a big fire breaks out; You are walking down the street and you see how a group of thieves start robbing a bank with guns.

So, if I understand you correctly, what you would do in those circumstances so that “you don’t give away your Creator Power” is:


Instead of calling the ambulance, the fire fighters, or the police, who do have the capacity to help, you would use your “Creator Power” and do nothing about it and just walk away?

(Note: we must emphasize that the corrupt elite has been causing bad accidents (911 and many other false flag attacks) and artificially provoking fires (unnecessary wars, artificial earthquakes, etc.) and stealing big time (by their fraudulent fractional reserve banking system) during hundreds/thousands of years, and wants to keep doing it).

Fred, if that’s what you would do (don’t call the ambulance/police, etc.), are you sure your “Yoda Instructions Manual” is not an older version which was falsified by the elite in order to fool people into remaining passive to allow the elite to keep enslaving us? If that’s the case, to update the manual to a newer and corrected version (2012) would be better.

On the other hand, for those of you who think the wisest and healthiest thing to do in those circumstances and in order to preserve the wellbeing of all life on this planet is to call the ambulance/fire fighters/police/military, etc., I’d suggest you check out the list of public e-mail addresses of high level people and military personnel from USA and Europe I’ve included above (see Post #17, Pag. 1 of this thread) to inform them about Drake & Co.’s plan to arrest the elite and to ask them to please help them.

In other words, let’s all help this world by calling the honest people form the ambulance, the fire fighters, the police, the military, etc., and tell them we support them and ask them to please arrest the elite.

Fred Steeves
20th May 2012, 22:15
In my best(not so good) Yoda voice to Luke Skywalker qbeac: "That, is why you fail". In the very first paragraph of your well thought out post, you have voluntarily given away your Creator Power to "people who have the capacity". Thus, the game is automatically over by default before it begins.
Hi Fred Steeves, let me see if I understand your POV correctly. I’ll explain how I’ve understood it (and please, correct me if I am wrong) with an analogy:

Let’s suppose you witness any of the following problematic situations which are all beyond your capacity to solve them all by yourself (Note: a single person doesn’t have the resources or the expertise to fix them):

You are travelling down the road and several cars in front of you have a bad accident with a lot of injured people; You are in a children’s school and a big fire breaks out; You are walking down the street and you see how a group of thieves start robbing a bank with guns.
So, if I understand you correctly, what you would do in those circumstances so that “you don’t give away your Creator Power” is:

Instead of calling the ambulance, the fire fighters, or the police, who do have the capacity to help, you would use your “Creator Power” and do nothing about it and just walk away?
(Note: we must emphasize that the corrupt elite has been causing bad accidents (911 and many other false flag attacks) and artificially provoking fires (unnecessary wars, artificial earthquakes, etc.) and stealing big time (by their fraudulent fractional reserve banking system) during hundreds/thousands of years, and wants to keep doing it).

Fred, if that’s what you would do (don’t call the ambulance/police, etc.), are you sure your “Yoda Instructions Manual” is not an older version which was falsified by the elite in order to fool people into remaining passive to allow the elite to keep enslaving us? If that’s the case, to update the manual to a newer and corrected version (2012) would be better.

On the other hand, for those of you who think the wisest and healthiest thing to do in those circumstances and in order to preserve the wellbeing of all life on this planet is to call the ambulance/fire fighters/police/military, etc., I’d suggest you check out the list of public e-mail addresses of high level people and military personnel from USA and Europe I’ve included above (see Post #17, Pag. 1 of this thread) to inform them about Drake & Co.’s plan to arrest the elite and to ask them to please help them.

In other words, let’s all help this world by calling the honest people form the ambulance, the fire fighters, the police, the military, etc., and tell them we support them and ask them to please arrest the elite.

Hi qbeac, thank you for that very well thought out and articulate response. I think it should be a model for how two people of good faith, who have a legitimate disagreement over something, interact with each other.:hippie:

Let me see how well I can try and clear up my Creator comment. I've highlighted your two main points I wanted to address below:

So, if I understand you correctly, what you would do in those circumstances so that “you don’t give away your Creator Power” is:

Instead of calling the ambulance, the fire fighters, or the police, who do have the capacity to help, you would use your “Creator Power” and do nothing about it and just walk away?

In all honesty, the most accurate way to start would be no, no, no, no, no, no...I think the multi-dimensionality of ourselves easily leads to misunderstandings, even of our own selves often times.(LOL) Speaking from a strictly "3-D" aspect of Fred, if I happen to drive upon an accident scene, there's always a fire extinguisher in my truck just in case there's also a fire involved. And just maybe I can pull someone out of the vehicle while others are busy dialing 911.

If in a grocery store, and some lunatic decides they want to use this venue to get famous for a mass murder event, I have the means to cut the event very short. The job of police almost always in these situations is cleaning up a big mess, investigating a mass murder scene, and wondering how this sort of thing could have been prevented. They can't be everywhere at once(thank god lol), and I think they would have a great appreciation of what took place.

I've got a pretty sizable food storage, and if/when the worst happens, I'll share with my neighbors, til it's gone if need be.

Just like "to every season turn turn", there is a time to prepare, there is a time for action, and there is also a time to stand fast. As to the time for action, this guy is model of all models for it. He wasn't looking to anybody but himself, and he acted when compelled to act. Can ya'll imagine how viral this showdown would be were it to happen today? Holy crap!!!
9-nXT8lSnPQ


I’d suggest you check out the list of public e-mail addresses of high level people

"High level people" being key here. This is the kind of comment from whence my Yoda comment came qbeac, and also where we enter the esoteric realm of things. A true love and lighter may cringe at my comments above, while a true survivalist would likely scoff a what I'm about to say below.

Quantum physics seems to fit nicely with many of the ancient teachings on the nature of reality. The "Double Slit Experiment" being a fine example. Is the electron a wave, or a particle? Watch this cool video by Dr. Quantum(Come on, it's only 5 minutes):p
uSnVnyQA8UU

When I mentioned the "time for standing fast" above, what I meant was relentlessly holding the energy of intent...Intent (knowing) of a world of peace, harmony, and abundance, that has already happened...Our natural birthright by god...And this ties directly into the Creator thing.

When we start talking about the building blocks of reality, we are all equal in potential, regardless of station in life. David Icke talks about 'combing the mirror', meaning you can't literally affect the reflection in the mirror. The change must be affected before the reflection of you takes place. This is where the "magical" realms of infinite possibility lay, and this is also our birthright.

What kind of a world do/will we live in? Well, is the electron a wave or a particle? I answer those questions with a question: Who is observing, and what are their intentions? I contend that just one person,(any person) at the right time, at the right place, and 'doing' the right thing, can turn the course of human events on it's ear at a moment's notice.

While I think it's imperative we stay alert, and be prepared to stand with anyone else around us having the fortitude to stand when the time is right, we should also not be waiting for any other do do so, because that "other" may be you or I.

Cheers,
Fred

P.S. The fire extinguisher is still there for just in case.
http://www.bigtenfever.com/forums/images/smilies/cheers.gif

qbeac
22nd May 2012, 06:48
… In all honesty, the most accurate way to start would be no, no, no, no, no, no... snip… if I happen to drive upon an accident scene, there's always a fire extinguisher in my truck just in case there's also a fire involved. And just maybe I can pull someone out of the vehicle while others are busy dialing 911… snip….

When I mentioned the "time for standing fast" above, what I meant was relentlessly holding the energy of intent...Intent (knowing) of a world of peace, harmony, and abundance, that has already happened...Our natural birthright by god...And this ties directly into the Creator thing….

Hi Fred, thanks for your response, but the proposal of this thread does NOT say that people who have a fire extinguisher in their cars should not use it to help the common good. Sure, if you have one handy, go ahead and use it.

And the proposal of this thread does NOT say either that we should not have good and positive intentions in our minds and hearts (because of the quantum physics effect, as David Icke explains, etc.). Sure, let’s have positive intentions too because they’ll help.

However, what the proposal of this thread says is that in case of a big, bad, and serious physical accident with a lot of injured people, besides using our personal fire extinguishers to help or having positive intentions (which we should), we should ALSO call the ambulance, the fire fighters, the police, etc. because that would be beneficial for the many injured people.

Please, tell us, if you were one of the injured persons (or somebody you love: your children, parents, brother or sisters, wife, friends, etc.), would you rather see a single person with a single fire extinguisher, or a big fire track full of well equipped and trained fire fighters?

I think the answer is obvious: a well equipped fire track would be better, right?

Therefore, all of those different actions (using our own fire extinguishers, having good intentions, and calling and ambulance, the fire fighters, etc.) are compatible.

In other words, all of those different actions can be done either independently or simultaneously. Neither one of those actions negate the others.

Therefore, we don’t have to “choose” between doing one and not doing the other. We can do only one of them if we wish, or do them all if we wish. It’s up to us which specific ones we choose to do or not to do.

Would you agree or disagree with that reasoning?

--------------------

Fred, one more question for you: what would you vote in the following poll? You don’t have to tell us if you don’t wish to, but I don’t mind telling you, I’ve voted 1a, 2a, 3a, 4a, 5a.

POLL: Do you think we regular people have the right to contact our high level representatives?
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44919-Do-you-think-we-regularpeople-have-the-right-tocontact-our-highlevel-representatives

Fred Steeves
22nd May 2012, 11:10
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Fred, one more question for you: what would you vote in the following poll? You don’t have to tell us if you don’t wish to, but I don’t mind telling you, I’ve voted 1a, 2a, 3a, 4a, 5a.

POLL: Do you think we regular people have the right to contact our high level representatives?
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44919-Do-you-think-we-regularpeople-have-the-right-tocontact-our-highlevel-representatives

Hi qbeac, not trying to be cheeky here, but I wouldn't vote for any of those choices. See, through my prism it's based on a false premise, because the days of a Representitive Republic in the States are long gone. I hate to quote the eugenisist Aldous Huxley, but this truly is a Brave New World. We're on our own now, and the old paridigm no longer does us service. Quite the opposite actually.

Maybe I'm really an ultra rebel in the midst of rebels here, but the only way out of this I feel is looking at us each in the mirror. I have a pet baseball analogy for this situation.

It's the bottom of the 9th, game 7 of The Final World Series, and the home team is behind by 3 runs. The bases are loaded, and the batter has a full count. The batter is then blindfolded just for good measure. The winning team gets to go home in glory, the losing team will be summarily executed. Now the question is, who wants the responsibility of being that batter?

If the hand of everyone reading this doesn't immediately go up, then we're finished. Game over by default.

Cheers,
Fred

qbeac
23rd May 2012, 10:39
Hi qbeac, not trying to be cheeky here, but I wouldn't vote for any of those choices. See, through my prism it's based on a false premise, because the days of a Representitive Republic in the States are long gone. I hate to quote the eugenisist Aldous Huxley, but this truly is a Brave New World. We're on our own now, and the old paridigm no longer does us service. Quite the opposite actually.

Maybe I'm really an ultra rebel in the midst of rebels here, but the only way out of this I feel is looking at us each in the mirror. I have a pet baseball analogy for this situation.

It's the bottom of the 9th, game 7 of The Final World Series, and the home team is behind by 3 runs. The bases are loaded, and the batter has a full count. The batter is then blindfolded just for good measure. The winning team gets to go home in glory, the losing team will be summarily executed. Now the question is, who wants the responsibility of being that batter?

If the hand of everyone reading this doesn't immediately go up, then we're finished. Game over by default.

Cheers,
Fred

Hi Fred, thanks for the analogy, but what does your analogy mean…??? Could you please explain it and clarify it better?

Also, what does your analogy have to do with the really simple questions I asked you in my last post (Post #23), because I don’t think it answers them, does it?

You don’t have to answer them if you don’t want to, but why don’t you just say so?

--------------------

For everybody else:

In Post #2 of this thread you’ll find the links to about 600 public e-mail addresses of high level people from the USA and Europe (military personnel, MSM, etc.). Some of those people will probably be honest and will appreciate that we (regular people) politely inform them about what’s really going on in the world: the corrupt elite, Drake and Co.’s plan to arrest them, 911=inside job, etc.

Zbigniew Brzezinski may not like to see the awakening of high level people, but the problem is that the elite he seems to work for want to provoke WWIII, artificial earthquakes, false flags, etc., etc… so it is better for the wellbeing of this planet and its life that as many high level people as possible become aware and awake ASAP.

If anybody else can help harvesting more public e-mail addresses (as I explained in Post #1 of this thread: using a simple google search), please, let us know and I can post them in the same Spanish forum (Burbuja) as the first 600 of them already are.

Fred Steeves
23rd May 2012, 11:35
Maybe I'm really an ultra rebel in the midst of rebels here, but the only way out of this I feel is looking at us each in the mirror. I have a pet baseball analogy for this situation.

It's the bottom of the 9th, game 7 of The Final World Series, and the home team is behind by 3 runs. The bases are loaded, and the batter has a full count. The batter is then blindfolded just for good measure. The winning team gets to go home in glory, the losing team will be summarily executed. Now the question is, who wants the responsibility of being that batter?

If the hand of everyone reading this doesn't immediately go up, then we're finished. Game over by default.



Hi Fred, thanks for the analogy, but what does your analogy mean…??? Could you please explain it and clarify it better?

Also, what does your analogy have to do with the really simple questions I asked you in my last post (Post #23), because I don’t think it answers them, does it?

You don’t have to answer them if you don’t want to, but why don’t you just say so?


Hi again qbeac, we really have to stop meeting like this.http://www.bigtenfever.com/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif The analagy meaning? Hmmm, maybe I left out the tens of thousands of people in the stands, hoping and praying for the batter to give them a miracle, last minute, come from behind grand slam home run to save the day. But they wouldn't trade shoes with him for anything in that moment, because they don't feel worthy to be in the batter's box against the best pitcher in the major leagues.

Attempting to leave no doubt here, I see the people in the stands as I see the people in these Drake threads, rooting for someone more qualified than themselves to step in and do something. No matter who you are in this world, there is no one more qualified, influential, or powerful to make things right, than the person each individual sees in the mirror. Me thinks Yoda would agree.
http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/newadditions/yes4.gif

As far as not delving into your other questions? Two things really. One is I try to be very conscious about not stepping all over someone's thread, and potentially derailing it. The other is that I think we had just carried that part of the conversation to it's natural conclusion. Any further and we would risk just talking past each other, and I've been married long enough to recognize that, and just agree to call it a day on a given subject.
http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/newadditions/smile.gif

Cheers,
Fred

qbeac
23rd May 2012, 12:21
…As far as not delving into your other questions? Two things really. One is I try to be very conscious about not stepping all over someone's thread, and potentially derailing it. The other is that I think we had just carried that part of the conversation to it's natural conclusion. Any further and we would risk just talking past each other, and I've been married long enough to recognize that, and just agree to call it a day on a given subject.

Cheers,
Fred

Hi, Fred, one more time you seem to avoid answering the simple questions I asked you in Post #23. As I mentioned before, you have the right of not answering them, but we also have the right to make our own conclusions about it. Now it seems to me (and please, correct me if I am wrong) that you don’t want to answer them, because otherwise you would have already done so, since they are so simple (no big deal at all). Is that correct? What I wonder now is why you don’t want to answer them…???

Also, you talk about the “natural conclusion of this conversation”? Well, this is an open debate that will stay open as long as there are people willing to share their POVs. So, if you wish to continue talking, you may do so, and vice versa. It’s up to you.

In any case, let me answer the simple questions in Post #23 myself:

If we have at least 3 different types of actions we all can take to improve the world:


(1) Using our own fire extinguishers. Translation: doing things ourselves to help the world.

(2) Having good intentions in our minds and hearts (or meditating, etc., etc., etc.).

(3) Calling an ambulance, the fire fighters, the military, etc. Translation: requesting the help of people who are better equipped than us (regular people) to do the task of arresting the elite, as Drake & Co. say they want to do, etc., because those high level people have more resources, more expertise, more financing, etc., than most regular people have.

Which options do you people choose?


1a. Those 3 actions are compatible.

1b. Those 3 actions are incompatible.

2a. Those 3 actions can be done independently or simultaneously.

2b. Those 3 actions cannot be done independently or simultaneously.

In my opinion, the correct answers in most cases are ‘1a’ and ‘2a’.

Another simple question: If many persons get trapped in a bad and big car accident, would those persons rather see coming to their rescue a single person with a single fire extinguisher, or a big fire track full of well equipped and trained fire fighters (plus ambulances, policemen, military)? What would be more beneficial for those persons?


3a. It would be more beneficial for those persons if a well equipped fire track comes to help.

3b. It would be more beneficial for those persons if a single person with a single fire extinguisher comes to help.

In my opinion, the correct answer in most cases is ‘3a’.

Therefore, what Fred says (having good intentions because of the quantum physics effects, etc.) is a good thing. Sure it is!

However, that action is not incompatible with the other two actions, for instance, the action of regular people sending a polite e-mail to as many high level people as possible to inform them about what’s going in the world… but then again, Zbigniew Brzezinski may not like it for the reasons explained in Post #25.

qbeac
5th June 2012, 18:01
The following is a wonderful proposal which is completely compatible and complimentary with the proposal of this thread which encourages as many regular people as possible to send a polite e-mail to as many military and high level personnel as possible to inform them about Drake & Co.’s plan to arrest the elite and ask them to support it.

(Note: The instructions to find thousands of public e-mail address of military personnel and high level people using a simple google search are in Post #1, #2, and #3 of this thread).


Soldier hugs web site ------ Check it out -----AWESOME!
Tuesday, June 5, 2012
http://nesaranews.blogspot.com.es/2012/06/soldier-hugs-web-site-check-it-out.html

John,

Hello.

I created a website platform in support of Drake´s broadcasts and is intended to Unite all US citizens and other peoples of the planet in the support of the Mass Arrests of Cabal Criminals. You can help send a message to our Brave Men & Women in uniform and let them know our collective free will and command for Freedom, Sovereignty, and Common Law.

I was inspired to create this site via a very strong spiritual message I received about 3 weeks ago and it hit me like a "freight train", sort of like a voice inside my head urging me to do it...

My intent of the site is to serve as another link in the support chain by creating a platform of "collective voice and action" for this cause. It was my intent to try and create something that would in fact "evoke" and emotional response and hence help to unite all of us under one common and undeniable truth that we all share the same fate and position as US citizens.

By creating and aggregating this unified support wave, it was my intent that this serve as an observable communication channel to all US military personnel from the standpoint of love and support as opposed to conflict and strife.

Please visit www.soldierhugs.com and create a "SoldierHUG" and send a message and command to our Brave military men and women to arrest these criminals that threaten us from within and here at home.

Thank you and if you like it and agree with it, please help to share it far and wide.

Thank you,

Aaron

Soldier Hugs Admin www.soldierhugs.com

Posted by John MacHaffie at 1:32 PM 0 comments

Kimberley
5th June 2012, 18:56
qbeac thank you for what you posted! I just discovered this thread today.

qbeac I posted what you wrote here
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43793-Drake-Updates-clarifications-and-more&p=501484&viewfull=1#post501484

Much love :hug:

qbeac
17th June 2012, 12:13
Hi everyone,

The following is a recent open letter from Drake, and I’d simply like to say that:

I do support Drake 100% !!!

If any of you feel the same way, please, let’s help spreading the word.

Also, if any of you would like to contact as many military personnel as possible to let them know about Drake’s letter and plan, the instructions to do so are explained in Posts 1, 2 and 3 of this thread.


Another Drake post…”Open Letter to Our Military”, 6-16-12
Posted on 2012/06/16
http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2012/06/16/another-drake-post-open-letter-to-our-military-6-16-12/

This just showed up here at Nesara News and is on this page of AMN, Drake’s home site. Since many here may not be checking his AMN website, I wanted to post this, prior to his show tomorrow. And, of course, when Drake says “our military”, I presumes he means the “U.S. military” (the “good” ones).

As with all of these, please hold this all in the Higher Light, and, as Drake said earlier, “Best thing people can do [right now]… Turn Your Light Up!”

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Open Letter to Our Military (by Drake)
Posted June 16, 2012
http://americannationalmilitia.com/2012/06/open-letter-to-our-military/

There have been several tasks given to different people through military command. To date all have been either completed as requested or are still developing.

This is an open letter to those who requested these specific missions. At the onset of these missions, extraordinary efforts were expended in just their start up. Each of these required a similar expending of time and effort to complete, all on a voluntary basis.

There were very few objections as to following mission parameters and instructions. Real patriots seldom complain of any hardship involved in any true patriotic effort either.

We The People have done as requested, and yet there is a great and growing concern. As many as possible have been contacted, groups, militias, and freedom loving individuals. These number in the millions here in the states, with many more millions world wide, watching closely.

Our efforts are looked at as the cornerstone to be built upon for all nations. This was only a dream of a hope for those of us most directly involved in all this. It seems that everyone is looking to us to lead the way, just as happened in part because of our war for independence.

There is and has been growing concerns as to the military’s not taking action that the people see as both vital and timely. I have offered the tactical complexities, both in house and outside, as a possible reason or cause for this delay.

However, there are a growing number who are beginning to believe that there never was any intent on the military’s part, to help the people in their efforts to restore our foundations, etc. This is where things are at presently.

The request is major, both for you and the people. In order to restore the faith in the military helping the people, an official statement of this intent needs to be made.

I understand all the ramifications involved in an action of this nature. Therefore, I have decided to go farther out on the limb I’m presently on, and offer you to directly contact me.

I was asked to offer several things in my broadcasts on internet radio as a help in the overall plan.

• I have accepted the risks involved in the same light as our founders.
• I pledge my honor, life, and fortune in this effort.
• I can do no less for my country and my countrymen

We The People now respectfully request the same from our military. Note that this will be sent out to everyone I have been asked to contact. Thus, the quicker the reply, the better.

The country looks forward to your reply,.

~ Drake

qbeac
8th July 2012, 12:34
Great video from Bill Wood (Brockbrader).

I do support Bill Wodd 100% with the initiative he explains in this video which consists of millions of us (“we the people”) exercising our FREEDOM to tell TPTW (the powers that were) bye, bye…. Adios!

(Note: the details of what we can do are explained in the video)


Bill Brockbrader - Tree of Liberty Movement - Why I think that the mass arrest will happen? (2-July-12)
(14 min) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMg8JSbaZqs

Btw, I also do support 100% Drake and Co.... let’s hope the mass arrests do take place.

But let’s not sit and wait for them to happen, let’s help them happen, let’s put our two cents on the table!

P.S. For additional ideas and instructions of things we all can do to help in this process, see Posts 1, 2 and 3 of page 1 of this thread.

qbeac
12th July 2012, 21:50
Paul said:

[Mod-edit:[/B] I deleted the actual list of email addresses above. As another poster notes below, supporting what might be considered to be email spamming of .mil addresses ….. snip….

-Paul.]

Hi Paul, there is a very good reason why contacting our representatives (politicians, military, etc.) to inform them about grave issues is not SPAM: because that’s their job, their duty is to solve those types of problems (what Drake & Co. are trying to solve).

On the contrary, it is them (our representatives) the ones who should have told us about these issues a long time ago (the elite’s corruption, etc.). But they haven’t done it because the whole system is badly corrupted at the very top of the structure of power of the world (governments, MSM, etc.)

Therefore, if they (politicians, military, etc.) receive unsolicited e-mails from us (regular people) to inform them about a very serious situation some of them might not be aware of, and to ask them to please do their job (to arrest the elite)… etc… that cannot be considered spam.

Further more, it is our moral obligation as citizens to inform them.

And it is their moral obligation as our representatives (in case they are honest) to try to fix it.

Paul, would you tell us what you would vote in this poll?

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For those of you who would like to inform our representatives (politicians, military personnel, etc.), here is a nice letter to send them by e-mail.

And in Posts 1, 2, 3 of this thread you’ll find the instructions to harvest thousands of public e-mail addresses from them.


"Message to ALL Soldiers & Oath Keepers"

Thursday, July 12, 2012
http://nesaranews.blogspot.com.es/2012/07/message-to-all-soldiers-oath-keepers.html
http://www.soldierhugs.com/message-to-all-soldiers-oath-keepers/

With the UN Arms Treaty; Do you still think this is just about "Standing Down" to UnLawful Orders?

As a means of enacting and communicating my free will civilian authority, I hereby ACCEPT YOUR OATH, and REQUEST with full intent as a living human being and inhabitant of planet Earth, all oath sworn Men and Women of ALL WORLD Military forces, Militias, Oath Keepers, Police officers, Marshall's and/or other authorized civilian groups thereof, to recognize, act, and abide by your “sworn oaths of service” to defend against all ENEMIES of the united States of America both foreign and DOMESTIC, and defend the inhabitants of planet Earth against those who perpetrate Crimes Against Humanity.

I hereby request the complete acknowledgement and appropriate response to treasons and crimes against humanity committed against not only our Nation, but against all peoples and world governments of planet Earth, by various covert and illegally conspiring dark cabals, among which include, but are not limited to: political officials, financial experts, banking and regulatory institutions with organizational structures and hierarchies. These dark cabals have intentionally infiltrated and embedded themselves within these highly influential positions ILLEGALLY, and with preconceived malicious intent aimed at forcible manipulation, control, enslavement and degradation of the lawful Nationals of these united States of America, and lawful Nationals of other International States and peoples of the planet Earth.

I hereby faithfully and lawfully, request that all WORLD Soldiers, act in support of the MASS ARREST, DETENTION, and ADJUDICATION of these dark Cabals under the appropriate and lawful mechanisms by which these criminals, their various entities and structures, are determined to be illegal, in breach, conflict, and directly punishable as crimes against humanity, and the "Universal Law of One".

With authority, love, admiration, humility, reason, and above all GRATITUDE, It is hereby my free will choice to "Stand and be Counted" for the purpose of participating in this collective and MASS CIVILIAN AUTHORITY communication to ALL World Militaries, Militias, Oath Keepers, Police officers, Marshalls and/or other authorized civilian groups thereof.

We LOVE and ADMIRE ALL of Earth´s brave Soldiers; we will NOT stand for our loved ones to be used as expendable "cannon fodder" for the propagation and enforcement of these dark Cabal´s illegal and usurpious agendas, profiteering, and criminal conspiracies."We The People"of planet Earth salute you, and send you these SoldierHUGS...

http://www.soldierhugs.com/message-to-all-soldiers-oath-keepers/