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turiya
9th May 2012, 04:24
Russian Troops Invited onto U.S. Soil to Target American(s)/Terrorists


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKTmONUVt2E&feature=youtu.be


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZRsjS0YZig&feature=relmfu

Russian Troops Invited/Mark of the Beast Begins
By Dr. Bill Deagle, vision received January 2 1999

"In the middle of the night, the angel Gabriel came to me. He announced that he was sent to correct a serious error in what I was thinking about the world leader that would be the False Prophet. [Editors note: A False Prophet of the secular harlot of America is the President.]

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/turiya_file/Barack_Obama_in_the_Oval_Office_view_from_the_west _corridor_.jpg

In a flash , I stood with him outside on the lawn in front of the Washington Monument. The President was on a platform, with many secret service men about watching security.

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/turiya_file/US_president_Barack_Obama_001.jpg

"Tomorrow, I ask that all citizens will report in an orderly fashion for a more secure national identification. This final step in our phased-in National ID program will assure peace and security for all our citizens. Violence in our streets and theft will end. Illegal sales of drugs will be removed from the dangerous hearts of our inner cities. Medical care and social security will take a major leap forward. This new ID Chip will make the chances of a medical mistaken identity, resulting in the death of a loved one, impossible.

The rights of all minorities in our great nation will be guaranteed: the right to live in a clean and safe world, free from drugs, violence and the oppression of poverty. Join me in a call to peace and security that will end the troubles that came at the outset of this New Millennium with Y2K, Terrorism and the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.

This is a time to personally agree with me in an oath to save our Nation and our planet. Resolve with me, your President to join in creating a New World Order, one based on not only the brotherhood of all men but of all life forms on Earth.

This is the challenge I ask you to meet tomorrow, as we witness to the whole world. May our example and our determination to save our nation and our world prepare us for the challenge of the Golden Millennium!"
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Neutron Fuse
By Dr. Bill Deagle, February 4, 1999.

I received this dream just before I left on the second tour for The Prophecy Club.

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/turiya_file/NORAD.jpg

As we stood in a control room with flashing computer screens and control board lights, he directed my gaze to a panel in front of us. He said, "Look and tell me what you see!" I looked and saw only a large, plain-looking panel with some writing above the flip panel that said "Neutron Fuse". He raised the panel so I could see under it, and then the angel asked, "Now what do you see?" A large white bubble-shaped button in the center was surrounded with switches and lights indicating a dual unlocking system and activation sequence.

He asked, "What do you think will happen when this system is activated and the President of the United States gives the order to push the white button in the center?"

I replied, "I don't know!"

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/turiya_file/nasa_satellite_468.jpg

I asked, "Why would they do this terrible thing to our communications and when will it take place?"

He replied, "When the enemy has invaded America, at the invitation of the President to force the Mark on all US citizens; then to destroy any opposition, this system will be used to take out communications and all services that rely on microchips, such as power generation and distribution. Then the Great Falling Away will occur,

[2TH 2:1] Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our
Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
[2] That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
[3] Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
[4] Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.] and the Holy People will die too numerous to count."

I asked, "If this is to happen, what good will it be for me to know and tell the people?"

He said, "The people of our Lord Jesus, who hear his voice personally and in cell churches, will have fled to places of refuge. They must know that they must shield their electronics, generators, and other microchip equipment from EMP, (electromagnetic pulse). See, here is what will happen on the freeways of America."

Suddenly, I stood with him on a hill looking down on the freeway of Los Angeles, and an endless stream of automobiles lined up with near silence except for the occasional shouts of frustrated motorists and screams from local skirmishes. It was the start of sunset and the eerie silence with the motionless egg-like shaped cars, lined up over the horizon, showed me how helpless we are in large modern cities.

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/turiya_file/traffic_jam.jpg

I asked, "What will happen?"

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/turiya_file/Russian_Troops_To_Target_Terrorist_in_America1.jpg

At the appointed time He will execute the sentence swiftly, and none of the evil ones will understand or prepare for what is to take place. Sleep now, but remember this vividly, for they must know the truth-those who will be preserved through the fires of tribulation-for a remnant will the Lord keep in the land."
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Red, Blue, and Green Badges & When The Revolution Begins
By Dr. Bill Deagle, vision received September 1998

While praying and reading the scriptures, I received the following vision of the times spoken of by Dimitru Duduman, when the revolution would start and America would have the places like Sodom and Gomorrah attacked.

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/turiya_file/chinese_un_troops2.jpg

I saw helicopters with the signs of the United Nations, and many thousands of Americans in lines waiting to receive the Mark of the Beast. He told me to watch as the Chinese navy, on the West Coast base we gave them, became a secondary staging ground for the invasion. The primary invasion was our own military bases. The angel showed me how our New World Order US government officials gave these bases to the invaders.

I was horrified as I watched. Deep below many airports and military bases, I saw those with Red badges, who were to executed for the word of their testimony, and they did not shrink from the faith in Jesus. Others, marked by Blue badges, worked in factories and were periodically brought to reprogramming camps and rooms where unspeakable in humane acts were performed on them to have them repent of their belief in the Truth and the Word. Elsewhere, those with the Green emblem smiled and went about life with peace on their well fed faces, and they feared not, for they had felt righteous in that they were saving the planet, or they knew falsely in their hearts that surely the Lord would not cast them out to outer darkness! Surely, once saved, they thought, I have eternal security, and the Lord Jesus I once received will not reject those he has taken into his arms.

Then Gabriel cringed as if in pain seeing this, for he said that their beliefs would bring them to destruction for they knew Him not!

I asked, "What is the end of these things?"
He said "Those that will hear the words of the witnesses of Jesus and the prophets of the END, would be stirred and throughout the kingdom of the Beast."

These would be high level masons, murderers, bankers, military men, teachers, doctors, laborers, and all the corporations of the Beast who will turn over those who would receive the Mark of the Sovereign Lord on their right hand or forehead. Even those who had taken the Oath to the Evil One and those most detestable, were among their numbers!

As I watched, he said, "Behold see those who feel secure in their righteousness, are lost while these most terrible before men are now washed righteous in the Blood of the Lamb!" In the spirit I fell on, my face weeping for those that call themselves by the name of the Lord, and the fate that they will face in outer darkness.

Suddenly, I was back beside the angel Gabriel, and he said, "America is Babylon and the Nation of the Anointing of Israel to bring the gospel to the world. All these things must come to pass, so that all Mercy and Justice of a Righteous God will be served."

I again asked what will happen to America? He said, "Revolution will start when the Evil One is revealed in the Tabernacle, and the Holy people are trampled underfoot with the attack on America and the nations that call themselves after the name of Jesus."

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
From: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Watchmen-Prophets-Assembly/message/18662

turiya
9th May 2012, 04:50
Russian Troops Invited onto U.S. Soil to Target American(s)/Terrorists

U.S. Invasion Map
http://curezone.com/upload/_C_Forums/Conspiracy/us_invasion_map.bmp


NorthWest Passage (Chinese)
http://curezone.com/upload/_C_Forums/Conspiracy/us_invasion_map_Washington.bmp

SouthWest Passage (Chinese)
http://curezone.com/upload/_C_Forums/Conspiracy/us_invasion_map_California_Nevada_Utah_Arizona.bmp

Southern Route Pushes East (Chinese)
http://curezone.com/upload/_C_Forums/Conspiracy/us_invasion_map_South_West_Route_Arizona_Neizona.b mp

Russian Push from the South East Coast
http://curezone.com/upload/_C_Forums/Conspiracy/us_invasion_map_Russian_Push_from_the_East_South.b mp


Russian Pushing in from the Northeast
http://curezone.com/upload/_C_Forums/Conspiracy/us_invasion_map_Russian_Push_from_the_East.bmp

Safe Zones Are Shown Here
http://curezone.com/upload/_C_Forums/Conspiracy/Annotated_Hand_Map_of_the_USA_from_Youngbrandt_Col lins.bmp

Reference: http://www.survivalprimer.com/2005CallToArms/Vision_A_Call_to_Arms_2005.htm

gigha
9th May 2012, 05:13
Hi TURIYA I am a little confused.
What is the source of this info?

Sorry never mind the above, starting to join the dots now.

Peace and Love gigha.

aranuk
9th May 2012, 05:18
Who is john Moore? The Liberty man?


Stan

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Sounds to me like there is a lot of confusion being deliberately broadcasted. I don't like the sound of all this.

Stan

turiya
9th May 2012, 05:35
Hi Stan

John Moore is ex-military, ex-detective. He also gives some conferences & weekend outings on survival.
John Moore is host of the John Moore Radio Show on RBN, Republic Broadcast Network 8-9am EST. Google search RBN Radio & it will be top of the list. He has had a youtube out for several years called "What the Government Isn't Telling You."


Who is john Moore? The Liberty man?


Stan

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Sounds to me like there is a lot of confusion being deliberately broadcasted. I don't like the sound of all this.

Stan

modwiz
9th May 2012, 08:03
All we need is a map for Santa Claus' route and we will have it all. :rolleyes: These maps belong in the same category. Idaho? That is who wants to get shot land.

This stuff is a test of gullibility. They want to see if the fluoride, chemtrails, vaccines and crappy food have kicked it fully yet. Believing this stuff would indicate they have.

Disseminating it brings up very different questions.

wynderer
9th May 2012, 10:59
are you folks really not aware that foreign troops have been here in the USA for quite some time?

WhiteFeather
9th May 2012, 11:35
All we need is a map for Santa Claus' route and we will have it all. :rolleyes: These maps belong in the same category. Idaho? That is who wants to get shot land.

This stuff is a test of gullibility. They want to see if the fluoride, chemtrails, vaccines and crappy food have kicked it fully yet. Believing this stuff would indicate they have.

Disseminating it brings up very different questions.

LMFAO...Hey Mod... where have you been as of late. Missing your good humor.

Dennis Leahy
9th May 2012, 12:06
There is fear porn, and there is fear porn. This is XXXXX fear porn, the stuff that would make a gynecologist blush porn.

Dennis

wynderer
9th May 2012, 12:49
once again, i am amazed at how deep & wide Human denial can go

turiya
9th May 2012, 12:59
'Drake' has already provided you with that Santa Clause map. Gullibility is not the same as being intuitive.

I see you are still looking for a conflict, modwiz. It will follow a person like you around like a shadow.
Still looking for a conflict amongst those on this forum is a sure sign that one has not yet hit the bottom of the barrel of his own self-created misery.
Not to worry, though, the bottom will come sooner or later. And with that will come the moment of dropping to your knees & seeing that its perfectly ok to agree to disagree, instead of feeling as though it is a personal attack upon your ego.

Be well... but try to remember to keep me on your ignore list in the future... at least til the moment that you realize that the attacks upon your ego is but a figment of your own imaginings.

Cheer -*-




All we need is a map for Santa Claus' route and we will have it all. :rolleyes: These maps belong in the same category. Idaho? That is who wants to get shot land.

This stuff is a test of gullibility. They want to see if the fluoride, chemtrails, vaccines and crappy food have kicked it fully yet. Believing this stuff would indicate they have.

Disseminating it brings up very different questions.

wynderer
9th May 2012, 13:06
there are foreign troops on USA soil -- among others, a US Ranger confirmed this for me


There is fear porn, and there is fear porn. This is XXXXX fear porn, the stuff that would make a gynecologist blush porn.

Dennis

DreamsInDigital
9th May 2012, 13:08
once again, i am amazed at how deep & wide Human denial can go
It has nothing to do with denial, it all has to do with us being far to "onto them" trying to "Spook The Herd" and us not falling for it.

aranuk
9th May 2012, 13:11
Turiya you posted these two numbers with no comment. I thought the mods advised that this was not to be done anymore? Can you explain why you posted these ? Do you agree with what these videos are saying or not?

Stan

wynderer
9th May 2012, 13:12
there are foreign troops on US soil -- some were seen during the Katrina genocide, for instance --



once again, i am amazed at how deep & wide Human denial can go
It has nothing to do with denial, it all has to do with us being far to "onto them" trying to "Spook The Herd" and us not falling for it.

Dennis Leahy
9th May 2012, 13:13
The Russians are coming! The Russians are coming!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_nGW7pWBDY
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_nGW7pWBDY

wynderer
9th May 2012, 13:23
you folks don't seem to get it -- it's the New WORLD Order -- that includes a One-World Army/fighting force

the foreign troops on US soil are the beginnings of putting the NWO army into place

pls wake up

Mozart
9th May 2012, 13:26
There is fear porn, and there is fear porn. This is XXXXX fear porn, the stuff that would make a gynecologist blush porn.

Dennis


Hey Dennis ~


Dude, you took the words right out of my mouse! ... :second:


Mod, Whitefeather, DID, et. al., -- I totally agree with y'all!


~Mozart

wynderer
9th May 2012, 13:31
trying to grok the 'fear porn' thing -- i gather that this makes you all feel scared? & as the new spirituality tells you that you lose if you feel fear, you work hard to believe that anything that scares you is a lie, i.e.'fear porn' --???

did i get it right?

GoodETxSG
9th May 2012, 13:36
BS alert... Sorry, lots of that comes from this source (ALEX JONES).

If these soldiers were tasked with this mission in real life... Imagine how freaked out they would be. "Hey you, UN mandated Grunt (Russian/Chinese etc..), GO forth into the American public where there is a minimum of 1.5 GUNS per Citizen and hundreds of thousands of highly trained war vets and Militia's and put them down! They will be out of uniform and popping up from every rabbit hole and roof top aiming for every blue helmet they see… These targets how have been more proficient with a rifle since the age of 12 that you were when you left basic training are your targets! Go get them boys!"

I can see each of them looking at each other in the plane or whatever troop delivery vehicle with their eyes wide open and asking to double their Kevlar vests... These war games have been played out in computers so many times and the invasion forces are always cut off from command and control and picked off as if in a turkey shoot by armed Americans. It makes for a good story, but if they actually try to do this... blood will run in the streets hip deep. A person fighting for their home, liberty and family is more dangerous than 10 special forces troops who do not know the terrain or the culture.

¤=[Post Update]=¤



There is fear porn, and there is fear porn. This is XXXXX fear porn, the stuff that would make a gynecologist blush porn.

Dennis


Hey Dennis ~


Dude, you took the words right out of my mouse! ... :second:


Mod, Whitefeather, DID, et. al., -- I totally agree with y'all!


~Mozart

FEAR PORN of the very highest quality, well thought out and playing out to the fears that he has taken notes on by his callers... yes, there are not enough X's to assign to this type of fear porn...

aranuk
9th May 2012, 13:39
Reassuring words Corey! Well at least for me.

Stan

wynderer
9th May 2012, 13:40
i figured that my faithful hound dog would follow up my post w/one of his

you are not addressing the fact that there are foreign troops on US soil right now, at this moment -- if you are as well-connected to the military as you imply, surely you know about this


BS alert... Sorry, lots of that comes from this source.

If these soldiers were tasked with this mission in real life... Imagine how freaked out they would be. "Hey you, UN mandated Grunt (Russian/Chinese etc..), GO forth into the American public where there is a minimum of 1.5 guys per Citizen and hundreds of thousands of highly trained war vets and Militia's and put them down! They will be out of uniform and popping up from every rabbit hole and roof top aiming for every blue helmet they see… These targets how have been more proficient with a rifle since the age of 12 that you were when you left basic training are your targets! Go get them boys!"

I can see each of them looking at each other in the plane or whatever troop delivery vehicle with their eyes wide open and asking to double their Kevlar vests... These war games have been played out in computers so many times and the invasion forces are always cut off from command and control and picked off as if in a turkey shoot by armed Americans. It makes for a good story, but if they actually try to do this... blood will run in the streets hip deep. A person fighting for their home, liberty and family is more dangerous than 10 special forces troops who do not know the terrain or the culture.

¤=[Post Update]=¤



There is fear porn, and there is fear porn. This is XXXXX fear porn, the stuff that would make a gynecologist blush porn.

Dennis


Hey Dennis ~


Dude, you took the words right out of my mouse! ... :second:


Mod, Whitefeather, DID, et. al., -- I totally agree with y'all!


~Mozart

FEAR PORN of the very highest quality, well thought out and playing out to the fears that he has taken notes on by his callers... yes, there are not enough X's to assign to this type of fear porn...

GoodETxSG
9th May 2012, 13:42
All we need is a map for Santa Claus' route and we will have it all. :rolleyes: These maps belong in the same category. Idaho? That is who wants to get shot land.

This stuff is a test of gullibility. They want to see if the fluoride, chemtrails, vaccines and crappy food have kicked it fully yet. Believing this stuff would indicate they have.

Disseminating it brings up very different questions.

Exactly... I have worked with troops from so many different countries it would boggle the mind. They train here and we train there (If their country is stable enough)... This is my post from another forum, that I think is relevant...
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Re: U.S. Troops In Neighboorhood Streets Fully Armed
We have done so many of these joint exercises with NATO and non NATO soldiers here and in their own countries (Some come here because it is impossible in their countries). They make sure that all soldiers are trained in the same MMO's and SOP's in all terrains (ID Friend or Foe to prevent friendly fire etc). There has been a MAJOR focus on Urban Warfare since Somalia in the 90's and that particular type of warfare has been seriously specialized both in tactics and technology.

This all puts in the framework to pull "UN" soldiers into any theatre and be ready to work together at any moment. However, I agree that the major part of the U.S. Military WOULD reject orders to fire on our own Civilians. That is why they get people from another world region to do it. If they were to try to do this they would first create a pretext to send MOST ALL of our soldiers overseas to fight so they are not home at the time of the EVENT.

Go to the OATHKEEPERS Website, there were a vast majority of Soldiers that refused orders to disarm citizens than there were ones that gave backup to the FEMA and other FED's that DID go in to disarm old ladies with revolvers. I was in the region.

But, countless foreign Col.'s on up have discussed what a night mare it would be to try to disarm or subdue the American people. We are armed to the teeth and know how to use our weapons. We have plenty of Vets that know current tactics that could train a civilian army and get them up to speed quickly.

If THEY were to succeed they would have to come in with an incredible shock and awe campaigned and kill so many innocents it would be just crazy. They would have better success if they caused a Pandemic or caused a problem with crops or food and water supplies, maybe a disaster here or there (Manmade or Natural) and then send in the Blue Hats to “Save the day” and declare Martial Law.

I guarantee none of the foreign troops savor the idea of going street to street in any U.S. city clearing zones of “Hostiles”. I have to tell you that think the U.S. Troops will support the Cabal and not the people and Constitution… You are WRONG! For those of you Americans saying this shame on you. The OATH we take is not taken lightly. Parent Post

GoodETxSG
9th May 2012, 13:46
Reassuring words Corey! Well at least for me.

Stan

Thanks, I would hope you would listen to reason more than a Fear Broker who is so self involved in their own beliefs and paranoid that they think I am put on this earth to stalk them and smother their truth... I get emails from people telling me they believe this, If I am wrong I apologize as I cannot see their posts... blocking is a wonderful tool. You should use it with the nut bregade that pop in to forums spreading their personal label of fear porn.

I am sure their pickled brain from years of abusing booze and drugs... and delusions of being a Non Human Lizzard Hybrid not from earth here to enlighten us by using the best Disinfo agents on this planet as sources... has nothing to do with their neurosis.



:lalala::nono::wacko::bs:

Considering that ALL of their quoted sources are directly from the most prominent FEAR PORN Authors... I do consider the source indeed.

wynderer
9th May 2012, 13:48
whew -- what a relief -- it's only NATO troops you trained with -- no worries for my country & the world now

also you have never answered my question re how many of our troops have taken the Oathkeeper's oaths --i've seen the videos of what some of our own troops are doing in Afghanistan, & in Iraq -- doesn't make me feel real comfortable that they are going to be returned home to 'protect' us



All we need is a map for Santa Claus' route and we will have it all. :rolleyes: These maps belong in the same category. Idaho? That is who wants to get shot land.

This stuff is a test of gullibility. They want to see if the fluoride, chemtrails, vaccines and crappy food have kicked it fully yet. Believing this stuff would indicate they have.

Disseminating it brings up very different questions.

Exactly... I have worked with troops from so many different countries it would boggle the mind. They train here and we train there (If their country is stable enough)... This is my post from another forum, that I think is relevant...
--------
Re: U.S. Troops In Neighboorhood Streets Fully Armed
We have done so many of these joint exercises with NATO and non NATO soldiers here and in their own countries (Some come here because it is impossible in their countries). They make sure that all soldiers are trained in the same MMO's and SOP's in all terrains (ID Friend or Foe to prevent friendly fire etc). There has been a MAJOR focus on Urban Warfare since Somalia in the 90's and that particular type of warfare has been seriously specialized both in tactics and technology.

This all puts in the framework to pull "UN" soldiers into any theatre and be ready to work together at any moment. However, I agree that the major part of the U.S. Military WOULD reject orders to fire on our own Civilians. That is why they get people from another world region to do it. If they were to try to do this they would first create a pretext to send MOST ALL of our soldiers overseas to fight so they are not home at the time of the EVENT.

Go to the OATHKEEPERS Website, there were a vast majority of Soldiers that refused orders to disarm citizens than there were ones that gave backup to the FEMA and other FED's that DID go in to disarm old ladies with revolvers. I was in the region.

But, countless foreign Col.'s on up have discussed what a night mare it would be to try to disarm or subdue the American people. We are armed to the teeth and know how to use our weapons. We have plenty of Vets that know current tactics that could train a civilian army and get them up to speed quickly.

If THEY were to succeed they would have to come in with an incredible shock and awe campaigned and kill so many innocents it would be just crazy. They would have better success if they caused a Pandemic or caused a problem with crops or food and water supplies, maybe a disaster here or there (Manmade or Natural) and then send in the Blue Hats to “Save the day” and declare Martial Law.

I guarantee none of the foreign troops savor the idea of going street to street in any U.S. city clearing zones of “Hostiles”. I have to tell you that think the U.S. Troops will support the Cabal and not the people and Constitution… You are WRONG! For those of you Americans saying this shame on you. The OATH we take is not taken lightly. Parent Post

aranuk
9th May 2012, 13:50
Corey can I be an honorary meber of Texas? Sure I can, I have good credentials I am Scottish! What are the figures for Texans with Scottish descent?

Stan

GoodETxSG
9th May 2012, 13:55
Corey can I be an honorary meber of Texas? Sure I can, I have good credentials I am Scottish! What are the figures for Texans with Scottish descent?

Stan

Sure why not... we need all the help we can get with the infiltration of the crazies right now.

wynderer
9th May 2012, 14:01
i yield to you, Corey -- you're right -- there's nothing to worry about -- the drugging & [soon] microchipping of our troops is no problem -- & the fact that most USAmericans did not give a damn when the Patriot Act was passed & are arming themselves for personal survival, not for the cause of Liberty -- no problem -- as you say, we have nothing to fear but fear irself [kind of like what all the benevolent channeled ETs are saying]

jorr lundstrom
9th May 2012, 14:15
Being a mind or having a mind?

If you are a mind, this is mindboggling, ie you are shaken by yourself.

If you are a no-mind, this is good entertainment. Well, mind you, you can

always put your mind on the ignorelist. Being a mind you´ll have to put

your ideas of yourself on the ignorelist. LOL


All is well


Jorr 2.0

turiya
9th May 2012, 14:17
Hey Dennis

I see that you are another Drake/Wilcock groupie trying to promote the notion that having a healthy skepticism about belief in the Easter Bunny is something that should not be considered.
If you think that the words & images that are posted here should not be seen, then you have a limited view of what freedom of speech, freedom of opinion means.

You look old enough to be done with wearing diapers. If such a topic is bothersome to the eyes & ears, then please have another sip of the Drake/Wilcock kool-aid. I am sure that is all that you will need. Hope is a drug. It buffers one from this present moment. At the present moment Russian Troops appear to be invited onto American soil by the present de facto USG. This needs to be monitored. That is all that is being said here.

I can suggest to you, as I have with others - If you are here living a life to grow in consciousness, and if you are really bothered by these words & images, then, instead of launching an attack &/or pasting labels, yelling out 'Porn!', then try to ask yourself "Why am I bothered by these things?"

The videos & the audios are simply vibrations in the air.
If the volume is disturbing, then lower it. For, its the listener that has control over the volume level.
The images and the written words are simply symbols on a page.
If they hurt your eyes, if it hurts your ears, then simply ask yourself 'Why do I feel hurt by what I read, by what I hear?'
This is the control knob of your mind. It is self-examination into what & why u r disturbed. Without this inquiry into oneself, one will always be in a state of reacting.
Reacting is out of habit. Responding is out of intelligence.
Playing the Victim - and crying out 'Porn!', when an alternative view to yours is encountered, is playing the game as a victim. It is a reaction game.

Upon seeing the onset of the coming of bad weather, & making preparations for what is seen coming, is not fear mongering.
It is responding to what is seen to be coming. It is playing the game of response - as in responsibility.
Each individual is responsible for themselves & how they respond to whatever comes down the pike.
If you see it as 'porn' (a Wilcock term), then this is a knee-jerk reaction.
If you see it as something that you are in disagreement with, and doesn't concern you, then this is an intelligent way of responding to whatever comes your way.

Cheers - turiya
-*-


There is fear porn, and there is fear porn. This is XXXXX fear porn, the stuff that would make a gynecologist blush porn.

Dennis

turiya
9th May 2012, 14:27
I believe the very first line shows my comment.... Russian Troops Invited onto U.S. Soil to Target American(s)/Terrorists
Its part of the agenda that the DHS, the SPLC, the ADL have had for the past decade or more. The G8 - G20 are part of this agenda of the NWO.



Turiya you posted these two numbers with no comment. I thought the mods advised that this was not to be done anymore? Can you explain why you posted these ? Do you agree with what these videos are saying or not?

Stan

truth4me
9th May 2012, 14:32
Wasn't John Moore also talking about how ELenin was going to pound the world? Thought so....

www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-xSa21kPr8

turiya
9th May 2012, 14:35
BS alert... Sorry, lots of that comes from this source (ALEX JONES).

Alex Jones has been more correct than you what you think you know.
He is entertaining as well. That is, if you can remove the preconceived notions that you presently have in place.

-*-

GoodETxSG
9th May 2012, 14:36
The best disinfo agents mix a LOT of truth in with the key BS they are taskd to spread.

turiya
9th May 2012, 14:38
once again, i am amazed at how deep & wide Human denial can go
It has nothing to do with denial, it all has to do with us being far to "onto them" trying to "Spook The Herd" and us not falling for it.

Well, at least you get credit for being honest. At least you admit that you are part of the herd. ;)

-*-

GoodETxSG
9th May 2012, 14:47
once again, i am amazed at how deep & wide Human denial can go
It has nothing to do with denial, it all has to do with us being far to "onto them" trying to "Spook The Herd" and us not falling for it.

Well, at least you get credit for being honest. At least you admit that you are part of the herd. ;)

-*-

I absolutely and blindly deny this last statement, lol... kidding. Truth, Denial... its all so subjective... people are in denail of their own dark issues, in denial of other peoples realities, of their own reality even... they even deny that they are in denial.

GoodETxSG
9th May 2012, 14:54
Wasn't John Moore also talking about how ELenin was going to pound the world? Thought so....

www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-xSa21kPr8

Yea he did,
I followed AlexJ for a LOOOOOONNNNG time. His videos and the articles he authored etc... lost of great info, then it started bending in another direction as with most of these "Truth" dealers... they are only as good as their sources... and their sources are only as good as the info that is fed to them. That is just the tippy top of the ice berge of how disinfo works. The people giving us the info have the best of intentions... but the "Trickle Down" effect of info and disinfo reminds me of those Chinese Pachinko Machines....

Post Note:
I admit that I have a lot of "Sources" and I too are at the mercy of the same game explained above. I have supplied some info to some of the names mentioned, that was cooberated with other non related informants... but the minute the info goes in another direction than another source all of it has to be taken with a grain of salt.

aranuk
9th May 2012, 14:56
I believe the very first line shows my comment.... Russian Troops Invited onto U.S. Soil to Target American(s)/Terrorists
Its part of the agenda that the DHS, the SPLC, the ADL have had for the past decade or more. The G8 - G20 are part of this agenda of the NWO.



Turiya you posted these two numbers with no comment. I thought the mods advised that this was not to be done anymore? Can you explain why you posted these ? Do you agree with what these videos are saying or not?

Stan

That my friend is not what I would call a comment. That is an introduction without any comment.
You never answered my last question, why not? I ask again. Do you agree with what these videos are saying or not?


Stan

Arrowwind
9th May 2012, 14:56
there are foreign troops on USA soil -- among others, a US Ranger confirmed this for me


I think you should do better at providing evidence for your statement than that just "a US Ranger confirmed this for me". Photos, news artilces, stats on numbers here, etc. and where they are located. I would think that a bunch of Russian or chinese or Congo troops would be hard to miss.

On the other hand there has been UN plans for some time, is my understanding, for NATO troops to be available on US soil, just like they send them to other places currently. Its common knowlege that we train small groups of foreign troops. Dont make it sound like they have huge installations here.

I am not at all convinced that the US military would resist if such extremes came about.

Actually, our ONLY HOPE of evading emersion in one world order is a US military coup, with intent of restablishing a constitutional government.

If our military is not for a constitutional government they will be against it. Seems to me most folks going into the military are guilable and half brain dead as it is. We should have had a coup when Iraq was put upon them.

It is quite clear that the electorial process can no longer provide people who will support and maintain our constitutional principles and laws.

Support www.oathkeepers.org (http://www.oathkeepers.org)

GoodETxSG
9th May 2012, 15:05
there are foreign troops on USA soil -- among others, a US Ranger confirmed this for me


I think you should do better at providing evidence for your statement that just "a US Ranger confirmed this for me". Photos, news artilces, stats on numbers here, etc. and where they are located. I would think that a bunch of Russian or chinese or Congo troops would be hard to miss.

On the other hand there has been UN plans for some time, is my understanding, for NATO troops to be available on US soil, just like they send them to other places currently.

I am not at all convinced that the US military would resist if such extremes came about.

Actually, our ONLY HOPE of evading emersion in one world order is a US military coup, with intent of restablishing a constitutional governement.

If our military is not for a constitutional government they will be against it. Seems to me most folks going into the military are guilable and half brain dead as it is. We should have had a coup when Iraq was put upon them.

It is quite clear that the electorial process can no longer provide people who will our constitutional principles.

Support www.oathkeepers.org (http://www.oathkeepers.org)

VERY VERY True, every time someone gives a view different than theirs they magically come up with a source, ex boyfriend etc to back up their account. Is this site to be about delusional fiction or real debate about the current status of things and how to cope and react? I guess the BS cannot be seperated from the rest... but once you figure out those sources... IGNORE... CLICK!

wynderer
9th May 2012, 15:10
check out Prisonplanet for photos of these neighborhood ops thru the years -- i remember one where they stopped a Greyhound bus & made all the passengers get out




there are foreign troops on USA soil -- among others, a US Ranger confirmed this for me

I think you should do better at providing evidence for your statement that just "a US Ranger confirmed this for me". Photos, news artilces, stats on numbers here, etc. and where they are located. I would think that a bunch of Russian or chinese or Congo troops would be hard to miss.

On the other hand there has been UN plans for some time, is my understanding, for NATO troops to be available on US soil, just like they send them to other places currently.

I am not at all convinced that the US military would resist if such extremes came about.

Actually, our ONLY HOPE of evading emersion in one world order is a US military coup, with intent of restablishing a constitutional governement.

If our military is not for a constitutional government they will be against it. Seems to me most folks going into the military are guilable and half brain dead as it is. We should have had a coup when Iraq was put upon them.

It is quite clear that the electorial process can no longer provide people who will our constitutional principles.

Support www.oathkeepers.org (http://www.oathkeepers.org)

VERY VERY True, every time someone gives a view different than theirs they magically come up with a source, ex boyfriend etc to back up their account. Is this site to be about delusional fiction or real debate about the current status of things and how to cope and react? I guess the BS cannot be seperated from the rest... but once you figure out those sources... IGNORE... CLICK!

GoodETxSG
9th May 2012, 15:13
Being a mind or having a mind?

If you are a mind, this is mindboggling, ie you are shaken by yourself.

If you are a no-mind, this is good entertainment. Well, mind you, you can

always put your mind on the ignorelist. Being a mind you´ll have to put

your ideas of yourself on the ignorelist. LOL


All is well


Jorr 2.0

Clever... LOL, yea... I think of "Ignoring" as more of an Umbrella to keep BS from pelting my soft impressionable mind.

Brain Washing 101, easy peasy,
A little wording used by Military personnel, some Black Water Merc's in US Army uniforms (Who do most of the dirty work here and abroad)... some Photo Shop here and there of them in Afgan/Iraq... place these in the Main Stream Media and the Alternative media strategically and there you have it... perception implanted, fertilized by BS and watered by preconceptions. It is all VERY text book stuff... It works so well why should they change their tactics?

We really end up doing all of the work for them by making their work go viral. Using regular soldiers who train for urban combat under what ever pretext are not the enemy or do they brass really expect them to fight the American People... just gooood tactics and psychwarfare etc...

I remember here in TX when we worked with FEMA and local disaster responders using a school as a place for epidemic survirors to show up for help as some NWO scare tactic and training... we were there providing security and communications... mostly standing around. But we were plugged into the disinfo machine as well... recently the Texas Army State Guard was a part of a totally BOGUS article that was retracted for almost exactly the same thing.

There goes my neck again... shaking my head toooo much.

wynderer
9th May 2012, 15:25
so Ike was way off base when he warned us about the military/industrial complex....

also, what about the satanism in high ranks of many of military branches? see Kay Grigg's videos where she named names in one branch

Marrkuss
9th May 2012, 16:41
In my honest opinion ! These "dreams" or "visions" that particular guy had might have been real in these years about whats would have happened if we continued on the course we were on at that time ! I say humanity has control over its destiny and we have made quite a long walk since 1999 ! The implants started but most people will never want to be chipped ! Time is running short for the NwO ! Look at Iceland who broke free of bankers and its corrupt government ! World is waking up ! False flag event is most likely to fail next time it happens ! Too many people woke up !

Love & Light !

jorr lundstrom
9th May 2012, 16:56
so Ike was way off base when he warned us about the military/industrial complex....

also, what about the satanism in high ranks of many of military branches? see Kay Grigg's videos where she named names in one branch


Those guys who warned Ike for MIC and the greys are stiil around.

Its their birthplanet too and they are very concerned about the well-

being of at least the planet, even if they arent especially impressed

with the humans of this stupified civilsation.


All is well


Jorr 2.0

GoodETxSG
9th May 2012, 17:10
Deleted... waste of time/energy and reason.
:tinfoil3:

wynderer
9th May 2012, 18:01
i figured you wouldn't brush Ike off

& they don't rule just by fear -- they control a lot of the weapons ; our food thru BigAg; & the minds of most thru the massmedia & meds




so Ike was way off base when he warned us about the military/industrial complex....

also, what about the satanism in high ranks of many of military branches? see Kay Grigg's videos where she named names in one branch


Those guys who warned Ike for MIC and the greys are stiil around.

Its their birthplanet too and they are very concerned about the well-

being of at least the planet, even if they arent especially impressed

with the humans of this stupified civilsation.


All is well


Jorr 2.0

The industrial military complex has morphed into another entity as well... mostly corporate and private army groups. But there is still a good sized group of cabalists implanted in the Military leadership and 3 letter agencies... You are correct on that... there is MUCH to fear from these groups as FEAR is what they rule with.

humanalien
9th May 2012, 22:01
Reassuring words Corey! Well at least for me.

Stan

Thanks, I would hope you would listen to reason more than a Fear Broker who is so self involved in their own beliefs and paranoid that they think I am put on this earth to stalk them and smother their truth... I get emails from people telling me they believe this, If I am wrong I apologize as I cannot see their posts... blocking is a wonderful tool. You should use it with the nut bregade that pop in to forums spreading their personal label of fear porn.

I am sure their pickled brain from years of abusing booze and drugs... and delusions of being a Non Human Lizzard Hybrid not from earth here to enlighten us by using the best Disinfo agents on this planet as sources... has nothing to do with their neurosis.



:lalala::nono::wacko::bs:

Considering that ALL of their quoted sources are directly from the most prominent FEAR PORN Authors... I do consider the source indeed.

Someone comes to this forum, trying to pass out information that they just received and right away,
they are labeled as being nut with a booze and drug soaked brain. They are being accused of
spreading fear porn because their beliefs don't match up with what you believe.

I was banned for talking about 2 people in a way that the mods didn't approve of but here you are,
slandering a whole group of forum members by calling them names, as see from the bold print in
your post. Why haven't you been banned for saying that? Is it because Dennis L is leading the pack
in this thread? Not by choice but put there by the other forum members that believe the same way
that he does. He is the person that they hide behind for safety.

I've noticed that only certain people can come to this forum and say what-ever they feel like saying
and no one says anything bad about them but let someone come here and post something that these
few people don't believe in and they are labeled as nuts and spreaders of fear porn.

Doesn't every one have the right to come here and make posts, without being bashed for it? The
OP is saying that russians are coming here, invited by our government, to do some training. Is
this true? I don't know but instead of calling people names because you don't happen to believe
the post, you should be out there investigating the story and come back to post some facts.

Free speech starts in places like this. If we can't speak freely here, then forum are no better than
america. You demand free speech but only when it is you doing the speaking. For others, it's only
free speech when you believe what they say.

GoodETxSG
9th May 2012, 22:24
Vaccume... in a void...

Deleted... waste of time/energy and reason.
:tinfoil3:

:mod:

jorr lundstrom
9th May 2012, 22:31
May I cheer you all up with a wonderful subcortical voice?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlid1KfWSqU&feature=uploademail

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlid1KfWSqU&feature=uploademail


All is well


Jorr 2.0

GoodETxSG
9th May 2012, 23:04
Free speach is NOT FREE, it was purchased with blood of patriots. And now our "Representatives" are signing those rights away day by day... It will soon be called "Permitted Speach" or "Speach that is Free of Freedom". We are almost there folks.

aranuk
9th May 2012, 23:39
May I cheer you all up with a wonderful subcortical voice?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlid1KfWSqU&feature=uploademail

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlid1KfWSqU&feature=uploademail


All is well


Jorr 2.0

Jorr may I ask you something?

Stan

jorr lundstrom
9th May 2012, 23:43
Stan, anything.


All is well


Jorr 2.0

aranuk
9th May 2012, 23:50
Stan, anything.


All is well




Jorr 2.0

What friggin' planet are you from? :p

Stan

wynderer
9th May 2012, 23:50
i am very sorry if i have slandered anyone in any of my posts -- not my intention, i assure you

there have been things said about me that are quite unkind -- i try to live by what the Hopi Elders advise for this time -- Don't take anything personally

& personal attacks on me -- do they really matter considering what those of us on this planet at this time are dealing with?

jorr lundstrom
9th May 2012, 23:55
Stan, anything.


All is well




Jorr 2.0

What friggin' planet are you from? :p

Stan


Well Stan. The only planet except Earth Ive ever felt any affinity

for is Aldbaran. I dunno why, but its always been like that.

Im blueeyed, but I suppose I can be that without any real

connection to those guys over there. So Im sorry, when it

all comes down to dust, the question beats me. LOL


All is well


Jorr 2.0

aranuk
9th May 2012, 23:57
i am very sorry if i have slandered anyone in any of my posts -- not my intention, i assure you

there have been things said about me that are quite unkind -- i try to live by what the Hopi Elders advise for this time -- Don't take anything personally

& personal attacks on me -- do they really matter considering what those of us on this planet at this time are dealing with?

Wyn my wee honeypie what on Earth are you talking about? I have never read anything bad about you anywhere here. You just keep posting your posts the way you always do. I love you that way. Don't worry, be happy. Who sang that BTW?

Stan

wynderer
9th May 2012, 23:59
Bobby McFaren [sp?] -- thanks, Stan -- you're a good bloke

wyn



i am very sorry if i have slandered anyone in any of my posts -- not my intention, i assure you

there have been things said about me that are quite unkind -- i try to live by what the Hopi Elders advise for this time -- Don't take anything personally

& personal attacks on me -- do they really matter considering what those of us on this planet at this time are dealing with?

Wyn my wee honeypie what on Earth are you talking about? I have never read anything bad about you anywhere here. You just keep posting your posts the way you always do. I love you that way. Don't worry, be happy. Who sang that BTW?

Stan

Seikou-Kishi
10th May 2012, 00:02
'Drake' has already provided you with that Santa Clause map. Gullibility is not the same as being intuitive.

I see you are still looking for a conflict, modwiz. It will follow a person like you around like a shadow.
Still looking for a conflict amongst those on this forum is a sure sign that one has not yet hit the bottom of the barrel of his own self-created misery.
Not to worry, though, the bottom will come sooner or later. And with that will come the moment of dropping to your knees & seeing that its perfectly ok to agree to disagree, instead of feeling as though it is a personal attack upon your ego.

Be well... but try to remember to keep me on your ignore list in the future... at least til the moment that you realize that the attacks upon your ego is but a figment of your own imaginings.

Cheer -*-




All we need is a map for Santa Claus' route and we will have it all. :rolleyes: These maps belong in the same category. Idaho? That is who wants to get shot land.

This stuff is a test of gullibility. They want to see if the fluoride, chemtrails, vaccines and crappy food have kicked it fully yet. Believing this stuff would indicate they have.

Disseminating it brings up very different questions.

I'm sorry, when did this become ok? On the one hand you make insinuations about Modwiz's character for disagreeing with you and on the other you say agree to disagree? When did he accuse you of 'attacking his ego'?

Do you not think your post, aside from jumping ten steps down an argument that hasn't actually happened, is verging on the bilious and sanctimonious side?


Wyn my wee honeypie what on Earth are you talking about? I have never read anything bad about you anywhere here. You just keep posting your posts the way you always do. I love you that way. Don't worry, be happy. Who sang that BTW?

Stan

Bobby McFerrin

aranuk
10th May 2012, 00:04
Bobby McFaren [sp?] -- thanks, Stan -- you're a good bloke

wyn



i am very sorry if i have slandered anyone in any of my posts -- not my intention, i assure you

there have been things said about me that are quite unkind -- i try to live by what the Hopi Elders advise for this time -- Don't take anything personally

& personal attacks on me -- do they really matter considering what those of us on this planet at this time are dealing with?

Wyn my wee honeypie what on Earth are you talking about? I have never read anything bad about you anywhere here. You just keep posting your posts the way you always do. I love you that way. Don't worry, be happy. Who sang that BTW?

Stan

I'm listening to Dr Hook at the moment and just listened to the Alman Bros. Jessica what a track! Wasn't it Bob Marley? You may be right about Bobby McFaren. Never heard of him. I would ask my wife but she is sleeping.


Stan

turiya
10th May 2012, 00:30
For years, Steve Quayle has been saying that there are foreign troops on U.S. soil. In this riveting interview, Steve talks about the reason these troops are here. Now, "mainstream news" is finally reporting that "the U.S. and Russian military will be engaging in an anti-terrorism exercise that will involve Russian paratroopers using U.S. weapons to "take and hold" the main facilities of the CIA and Denver International Airport in Colorado and the National Security Agency in Utah."

What's really happening in America? Where do the allegiance of our leaders lie? What's in store of us as Americans? Listen to this engaging interview for insight - and get informed!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjl89wxJZks

modwiz
10th May 2012, 00:42
there are foreign troops on USA soil -- among others, a US Ranger confirmed this for me


There is fear porn, and there is fear porn. This is XXXXX fear porn, the stuff that would make a gynecologist blush porn.

Dennis

Well, as long as they behave themselves and act as guests, they should be able to go home without suffering 2nd amendment type lead poisoning.

Kendall
10th May 2012, 01:03
I appreciate fear porn,love porn,idea porn,sharing porn. I dont appreciate squelching someones concerns about what could or could not be a reality. We may or may not be invaded, the way things are trending it is a possibilty that deserves discussion imho, thats why I come to this site, to get info from those way smarter than I, not to see someone get their concerns criticized and made to look like an idiot for it. I applaud those that are seeking answers, especially those who are taking arrows for sharing their concerns with this site.

modwiz
10th May 2012, 01:10
'Drake' has already provided you with that Santa Clause map. Gullibility is not the same as being intuitive.

I see you are still looking for a conflict, modwiz. It will follow a person like you around like a shadow.
Still looking for a conflict amongst those on this forum is a sure sign that one has not yet hit the bottom of the barrel of his own self-created misery.
Not to worry, though, the bottom will come sooner or later. And with that will come the moment of dropping to your knees & seeing that its perfectly ok to agree to disagree, instead of feeling as though it is a personal attack upon your ego.

Be well... but try to remember to keep me on your ignore list in the future... at least til the moment that you realize that the attacks upon your ego is but a figment of your own imaginings.

Cheer -*-




All we need is a map for Santa Claus' route and we will have it all. :rolleyes: These maps belong in the same category. Idaho? That is who wants to get shot land.

This stuff is a test of gullibility. They want to see if the fluoride, chemtrails, vaccines and crappy food have kicked it fully yet. Believing this stuff would indicate they have.

Disseminating it brings up very different questions.

So, you decided to quote me. In curiosity I temporarily made you visible to read what your retort to me was. I purposely did not quote you to try and avoid this.

It really isn't personal. I do not pay a cable bill and watch TV either because of the content. Ignore function serves much the same purpose.

My curiosity will not get the better of me in the future.

ljwheat
10th May 2012, 01:29
BS alert... Sorry, lots of that comes from this source (ALEX JONES).

If these soldiers were tasked with this mission in real life... Imagine how freaked out they would be. "Hey you, UN mandated Grunt (Russian/Chinese etc..), GO forth into the American public where there is a minimum of 1.5 GUNS per Citizen and hundreds of thousands of highly trained war vets and Militia's and put them down! They will be out of uniform and popping up from every rabbit hole and roof top aiming for every blue helmet they see… These targets how have been more proficient with a rifle since the age of 12 that you were when you left basic training are your targets! Go get them boys!"

I can see each of them looking at each other in the plane or whatever troop delivery vehicle with their eyes wide open and asking to double their Kevlar vests... These war games have been played out in computers so many times and the invasion forces are always cut off from command and control and picked off as if in a turkey shoot by armed Americans. It makes for a good story, but if they actually try to do this... blood will run in the streets hip deep. A person fighting for their home, liberty and family is more dangerous than 10 special forces troops who do not know the terrain or the culture.

¤=[Post Update]=¤



There is fear porn, and there is fear porn. This is XXXXX fear porn, the stuff that would make a gynecologist blush porn.

Dennis


Hey Dennis ~


Dude, you took the words right out of my mouse! ... :second:


Mod, Whitefeather, DID, et. al., -- I totally agree with y'all!


~Mozart

FEAR PORN of the very highest quality, well thought out and playing out to the fears that he has taken notes on by his callers... yes, there are not enough X's to assign to this type of fear porn...

Last time I checked they still are not handing out Kevlar head and throat protection . Who aim’s for Kevlar anyway, blue helmets make great bulls eye’s they show up at a greater distance than traditional red or black on the field targets anyway. A coke can painted blue at a 100 yards is child’s play for any marksman strait out of boot camp.

And who butter’s there toast before it pop’s up anyway? plus its going to be painted blue>:laugh:

mosquito
10th May 2012, 01:45
are you folks really not aware that foreign troops have been here in the USA for quite some time?

There are foreign troops in America - so f*cking what ? For your information, the USA has more troops posted in other people's countries than any other nation on Earth, or in history, but hey guys, that's OK isn't it ?

NO
16222

Do the people of Okinawa enjoy having their daughters raped by your heroic marines ? NO, but God forbid they should protest.

Here's a link to one of many places where you can find information (rather than someone's Jesus laden dream) on the REAL threat to world peace.

http://www.vetfriends.com/US-deployments-overseas/http://

P.S. Apologies for the pie chart being small, I wanted to insert it full size, but had a struggle !
The above link also contains a link to the full sized version.

GoodETxSG
10th May 2012, 01:53
are you folks really not aware that foreign troops have been here in the USA for quite some time?

There are foreign troops in America - so f*cking what ? For your information, the USA has more troops posted in other people's countries than any other nation on Earth, or in history, but hey guys, that's OK isn't it ?

NO
16222

Do the people of Okinawa enjoy having their daughters raped by your heroic marines ? NO, but God forbid they should protest.

Here's a link to one of many places where you can find information (rather than someone's Jesus laden dream) on the REAL threat to world peace.

http://www.vetfriends.com/US-deployments-overseas/http://

Amen, but "Reasoning" has left the thread... people do not read and take in your perspective... the moment they see what you say the start formulating their rebuttal... no matter how far off your topic or how much it doesn't make sense...

aranuk
10th May 2012, 02:06
Hi Maripose, I just calculated that amounts to a total of 386,508 military personel in or around the planet that the American tax payer pays for to look after the property of the cabal. The bastards don't spend their own friggin' money to look after their interests they get the stupid American people to pay for them. Can you imagine the amount of money it takes for that caboodle in wages, Haliburton excesses in bills etc that they make up, battleships, jet planes, staff employed to feed them alone. No small wonder the Americans are in debt. If they got rid of the military everyone would be a millionare. Well nearly. Enough is enough surely.


Stan

wynderer
10th May 2012, 02:21
no, it is definitely not OK w/me that such a huge proportion of our budget goes to maintaining our empire, bombing merrily as we go, while we have homeless people & a crappy public school system, etc, & are making people in other countries homeless & destroying their 'infrastructure'

it's just that if [more like when] we go down, the whole western world [except maybe for Iceland] goes down w/us





are you folks really not aware that foreign troops have been here in the USA for quite some time?

There are foreign troops in America - so f*cking what ? For your information, the USA has more troops posted in other people's countries than any other nation on Earth, or in history, but hey guys, that's OK isn't it ?

NO
16222

Do the people of Okinawa enjoy having their daughters raped by your heroic marines ? NO, but God forbid they should protest.

Here's a link to one of many places where you can find information (rather than someone's Jesus laden dream) on the REAL threat to world peace.

http://www.vetfriends.com/US-deployments-overseas/http://

P.S. Apologies for the pie chart being small, I wanted to insert it full size, but had a struggle !
The above link also contains a link to the full sized version.

DreamsInDigital
10th May 2012, 02:50
Hi Maripose, I just calculated that amounts to a total of 386,508 military personel in or around the planet that the American tax payer pays for to look after the property of the cabal. The bastards don't spend their own friggin' money to look after their interests they get the stupid American people to pay for them. Can you imagine the amount of money it takes for that caboodle in wages, Haliburton excesses in bills etc that they make up, battleships, jet planes, staff employed to feed them alone. No small wonder the Americans are in debt. If they got rid of the military everyone would be a millionare. Well nearly. Enough is enough surely.


Stan
Even better yet, we keep the military and get rid of the Cabal/Banksters, reinvest all their money into the global economy by leveling everyone's income , every one will definitely be millionaires then and we can put the military to more constructive and productive activities like turning the deserts green, helping to restore the global ecological stability, local law enforcement, and other global restoration type stuff.

turiya
10th May 2012, 15:48
More conditioning... More signs that the corporate USG will be herding & corralling the sheople...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFYh1j-i_Jw&feature=player_embedded

GoodETxSG
10th May 2012, 16:14
More conditioning... More signs that the corporate USG will be herding & corralling the sheople...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFYh1j-i_Jw&feature=player_embedded

Indeed that is a very uneasy sign... I have seen plans for TX area plans like this. This plan I am sure has been in place for a long time... but actual preping for it is very spooky. I doubt it will happen, but this is a dirty seed to plant in the minds of the American public. Corporate Government indeed... that is Exactly what we live under and why a lot of laws really do not apply to us, even tho they are enforced by corp gov thugs...

RMorgan
10th May 2012, 16:35
Hey folks,

If there´s one proverb that really makes practical sense is this one : "Treat others the way you want them to treat you".

Now, there are hundreds of US troops everywhere in the world, basically, on every country in the world.

Ooohhhh, but no foreign army can be allowed into the USA!! The USA is sacred land!

Ok...Come on guys...

Honestly, I know most of you are very honest men and women, but there´s a reason the USA is the most hated country in the world!

If the US treats all other countries like their properties, how could you expect something different than this as a result?

I mean, it doesn´t matter how powerful a nation can be. If it keeps focusing on making enemies instead of friends, one day, it will have more enemies than it actually can handle.

That´s basically how every single major empire in the world was subdued!

Einstein used to say something like this: " The dumbest thing someone can do, is to keep doing the same thing, again and again, and expect a different result".

Cheers,

Raf.

wynderer
10th May 2012, 16:43
this is my post a few above yours, in response to a similar post to yours

no, it is definitely not OK w/me that such a huge proportion of our budget goes to maintaining our empire, bombing merrily as we go, while we have homeless people & a crappy public school system, etc, & are making people in other countries homeless & destroying their 'infrastructure'

it's just that if [more like when] we go down, the whole western world [except maybe for Iceland] goes down w/us




Hey folks,

If there´s one proverb that really makes practical sense is this one : "Treat others the way you want them to treat you".

Now, there are hundreds of US troops everywhere in the world, basically, on every country in the world.

Ooohhhh, but no foreign army can be allowed into the USA!! The USA is sacred land!

Ok...Come on guys...

Honestly, I know most of you are very honest men and women, but there´s a reason the USA is the most hated country in the world!

If the US treats all other countries like their properties, how could you expect something different than this as a result?

I mean, it doesn´t matter how powerful a nation can be. If it keeps focusing on making enemies instead of friends, one day, it will have more enemies than it actually can handle.

That´s basically how every single major empire in the world was subdued!

Einstein used to say something like this: " The dumbest thing someone can do, is to keep doing the same thing, again and again, and expect a different result".

Cheers,

Raf.

RMorgan
10th May 2012, 17:01
this is my post a few above yours, in response to a similar post to yours

no, it is definitely not OK w/me that such a huge proportion of our budget goes to maintaining our empire, bombing merrily as we go, while we have homeless people & a crappy public school system, etc, & are making people in other countries homeless & destroying their 'infrastructure'

it's just that if [more like when] we go down, the whole western world [except maybe for Iceland] goes down w/us


Hey wynderer,

I get your point.

However, every US citizen is at least partially guilt of the crimes committed by its government.

The average US citizen is, by far, the most consumerist of all, compared to other nation´s citizens.

What else but unbridled consumerism could be considered the fundamental trigger of this problem?

If everyone on Earth was as consumerist as the US average citizens, we could need like 12 Earths to supply them all.

Since we just have one Earth, it means that, by consuming that much, you´re actually taking from someone else.

What´s the basic force behind every war in the world nowadays? Greedy corporations.

Why do corporations start wars? For acquiring several different resources.

Why they want these resources? They want these resources so they can produce and sell their products.

Who buy their products and, finally, give these corporations all the money they have? The average citizen!

So, do you see? There´s no use blaming others, while you, the average USA citizen, is a fundamental part of the problem.

There´s no way to change this situation, without changing that average US citizen´s lifestyle.

I know it sounds very cliche, but basically, it´s all about BE THE CHANGE. All the decisive choices are made during our everyday actions. Whenever you buy something, you´re actively participating and building the future.

By the way, if the USA goes down, I´m sure the whole western world will not go down with it.

Just as an example, check out the BRICS. The whole purpose of this group is to be completely self-sufficient and independent from the dollar and the fluctuations of US economy.

There isn´t a single major country in the world that isn´t aware of the eventual collapse of the dollar and is not making the necessary preparations for it.

Cheers,

Raf.

wynderer
10th May 2012, 17:21
just as all Humans are complicit in the destruction of planet Earth

i really have tried my best all my life to not contribute -- i've been an organic vegan for close to 45 yrs now, have taken part in many peaceful demos against my country's various acts of war, buy second-hand clothes, got my kids out of the public school system, etc, etc, etc

pls remember that there are some of us here in the USA who are just as appalled at what our country does as those in other countries

also -- it's not that we in the USA are a specially materialistic bunch -- it seems that the whole world is embracing the values of Amerika & would also like to be overweight w/too many things



this is my post a few above yours, in response to a similar post to yours

no, it is definitely not OK w/me that such a huge proportion of our budget goes to maintaining our empire, bombing merrily as we go, while we have homeless people & a crappy public school system, etc, & are making people in other countries homeless & destroying their 'infrastructure'

it's just that if [more like when] we go down, the whole western world [except maybe for Iceland] goes down w/us


Hey wynderer,

I get your point.

However, every US citizen is at least partially guilt of the crimes committed by its government.

The average US citizen is, by far, the most consumerist of all, compared to other nation´s citizens.

What else but unbridled consumerism could be considered the fundamental trigger of this problem?

If everyone on Earth was as consumerist as the US average citizens, we could need like 12 Earths to supply them all.

Since we just have one Earth, it means that, by consuming that much, you´re actually taking from someone else.

What´s the basic force behind every war in the world nowadays? Greedy corporations.

Why do corporations start wars? For acquiring several different resources.

Why they want these resources? They want these resources so they can produce and sell their products.

Who buy their products and, finally, give these corporations all the money they have? The average citizen!

So, do you see? There´s no use blaming others, while you, the average USA citizen, is a fundamental part of the problem.

There´s no way to change this situation, without changing that average US citizen´s lifestyle.

I know it sounds very cliche, but basically, it´s all about BE THE CHANGE. All the decisive choices are made during our everyday actions. Whenever you buy something, you´re actively participating and building the future.

By the way, if the USA goes down, I´m sure the whole western world will not go down with it.

Just as an example, check out the BRICS. The whole purpose of this group is to be completely self-sufficient and independent from the dollar and the fluctuations of US economy.

Cheers,

Raf.

turiya
10th May 2012, 17:25
More Conditioning... The Troops are Fighting for the President... Oh, Really?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw2N7lRZPZE&feature=youtu.be

RMorgan
10th May 2012, 17:35
just as all Humans are complicit in the destruction of planet Earth

i really have tried my best all my life to not contribute -- i've been an organic vegan for close to 45 yrs now, have taken part in many peaceful demos against my country's various acts of war, buy second-hand clothes, got my kids out of the public school system, etc, etc, etc

pls remember that there are some of us here in the USA who are just as appalled at what our country does as those in other countries

also -- it's not that we in the USA are a specially materialistic bunch -- it seems that the whole world is embracing the values of Amerika & would also like to be overweight w/too many things



Hi my friend,

I agree with you and I think you´re certainly on the right path and setting a great example for others to follow!

That´s why I made sure to say "average citizen". I know there are many exceptions, just like you and many on this forum!

An yes... Unfortunately there´s a trend going on, on the whole world, to imitate and desire whatever is fashionable in the US, doesn´t matter if it´s a good or a bad thing.

The responsibilities are much bigger when you´re considered the leading and most important nation on the world; the old but strong power of example.

Cheers,

Raf.

turiya
11th May 2012, 01:49
Red Elk, in his vision that he had in 1979, also saw that foreign troops were to invade onto American soil. And America loses the war!
In the end, it will be Mother Earth that drives the foreigners out. And, it is through this process that we all become a very humbled & spiritual nation of peoples.

And excerpt to the vision of Red Elk... http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=55295

-*-

turiya
11th May 2012, 18:10
http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/turiya_file/30_000_100_000_Russian_Troops_Scheduled.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yY4s4SfgEEM#!

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/turiya_file/30_000_100_000_Russian_Troops_Scheduled2.jpg

Source: http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2112/509/CIA_HQ_Insider:_30,000_-_100,000_Russian_Troops_Scheduled_To_Arrive_In_Ame rica_Within_The_Next_7_Months.html

turiya
11th May 2012, 18:16
Hagmann & Hagmann Report with Steve Quayle & Greg Evenson

by Hagmann and Hagmann Report
in Current Events
Wed, May 9, 2012

An important analysis of current events that you will not hear on the evening news. Terrorism, the globalist agenda, and how current events are being misreported or convoluted by the major media

The U.S. is under attack not only by terrorists, but from within. We have the guts to expose those who are the enemies of our freedoms, and identify those who are attacking us and others who are busily taking our constitutional freedoms away from us in the name of liberty.

To listen to this 2 hour report click on the following link: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/cfp-radio/2012/05/10/the-hagmann-hagmann-report-with-steve-quayle-and-hawk

wynderer
11th May 2012, 20:16
well, TURIYA, it seems that our fellow countrymen & women are cool w/all kinds of foreign troops here & the evidence of FEMA camps & the presence of our own armed forces on our streets

guess it's our karma -- too many have not worked for peace & allowed our mil/industrial complex to ravage different areas of the world -- protecting us so we could get fat & lazy & allow our liberties [such as they were, but better than nothing] to be taken away, step by step

one of my ancestors helped row George Washington across the Delaware -- bet he's turning in his grave....

Rantaak
12th May 2012, 00:51
I cannot decide who I trust less - someone who trusts the word of a US Ranger or someone who thinks they have made contact with Archangel Gabriel...

And Alex Jones... Obvious fear-mongering troll. Basically cancer incarnate.

If man kills man, that is his own fault. His responsibility is in recognizing himself in the face of the other. Doom and gloom do us no good, as they serve only to lower our vibration into a state of fear and panic. Fear and panic serve no one, not even proverbial bastard elites. Preparedness is not in responding to fear or panic but in being entirely present in the moment.

Go do something fun today!

wynderer
12th May 2012, 01:04
it's fun for me to try to wake you up


I cannot decide who I trust less - someone who trusts the word of a US Ranger or someone who thinks they have made contact with Archangel Gabriel...

And Alex Jones... Obvious fear-mongering troll. Basically cancer incarnate.

If man kills man, that is his own fault. His responsibility is in recognizing himself in the face of the other. Doom and gloom do us no good, as they serve only to lower our vibration into a state of fear and panic. Fear and panic serve no one, not even proverbial bastard elites. Preparedness is not in responding to fear or panic but in being entirely present in the moment.

Go do something fun today!

turiya
12th May 2012, 02:53
well, TURIYA, it seems that our fellow countrymen & women are cool w/all kinds of foreign troops here & the evidence of FEMA camps & the presence of our own armed forces on our streets

guess it's our karma -- too many have not worked for peace & allowed our mil/industrial complex to ravage different areas of the world -- protecting us so we could get fat & lazy & allow our liberties [such as they were, but better than nothing] to be taken away, step by step

one of my ancestors helped row George Washington across the Delaware -- bet he's turning in his grave....

Hey Wynderer

It is my understanding that people are of three types, similar to the three different types of horses that a horse trainer would come across. First, there are those that need to be handled physically, may need to feel the sting of what a whip feels like in order to learn the lesson that is being taught; Secondly, there are those that only need to be shown the whip in order to understand the lesson; and then there are those that only need to see the shadow of the whip in order to get it.

Although, we may be coming up against the wall, & very soon now, but I feel that if one keeps their wits & awareness about themselves, there will be a way to move through the next year (or two) to come out of it pretty much unscathed, and not too bad for the worse. There is something in these end times for everyone. Wherever one may be at on their journey in their evolution of consciousness, this physical existence will provide whatever lesson(s) that are needed in order to evolve.

Although Red Elk may be not as sharp as he used to be, there is something in that vision that he has told that resonates quite distinctly with me.
And as Drake, himself, has scoffed at, and chuckled over, the notion that foreign troops will be coming onto American soil, and considers such a notion to be laughably absurd. I do, however, believe he is vastly underestimating the final card that is to be played by the NWO power elite brokers.

Yes, one can call it the white man's bloated egocentric notion, the sense of superiority that one has in thinking that one is the center of this Universe. And that such an invasion scenario would just not ever be possible. But, as I have said previously, Existence has a way of providing precisely what is needed, regardless of what one thinks is highly unlikely.

For its far too obvious, one doesn't need to be a great visionary to see how much conflict there is in this world, even in this forum alone, one doesn't have to travel so far to see how inconsiderate, and disrespectful people are with each other. America (& Americans), absolutely need(s) to go through such a disintegrated scenario to learn the lesson(s) that everyone here has agreed to go through in this life in order to access a greater understanding.

In other words, people, especially in this country America, need to be brought down to their knees. Drake, in a way, is playing his appropriate role in all this. The 'hope-ium' he provides to those that enjoy their dreamstates will be effectively positioning all 'hope-a-dopes' to be blindsided by an extra harsh & extremely rude awakening that is needed in order to successfully proceed forward. Growing in awareness, in consciousness, there is always a certain amount of pain that one will have to endure, it is consequential, it comes along with, and is an essential part of the contract(s) that we have all agreed to prior to sojourning upon this Earth.

Forward to the 3:46 minute mark for the beginning of this Steve Quayle/Hagman interview...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjl89wxJZks

wynderer
12th May 2012, 10:35
Hi TURIYA -- i suppose forums like Avalon are where folks come when they are starting to get a glimmer of things being pretty bad here on Earth right now

& from the threads & posts, one can see how Humans are dealing w/this -- i see DENIAL in all kinds of threads -- & the denial often seems to go along w/self-centeredness -- not caring about what happens to others -- Jung said ,'Denial acts like guilt'

way more posts on Drake [who focuses on money/the financial system ] than on the fact that our planet is being nuked, for instance [a few more on the thread Bill Ryan started about Fukushima, because Humans are herd animals & like to stay on good terms w/the herd leader] --

i get distraught at times because i see a future of hell itself for all the deniers -- their waking up IS going to be a big shock --

& the denial of our fellow citizens re the armed military presence of both foreign & domestic troops on our streets, & acepting the disinfo that they are here to help us overthrow the NWO -- nothing new there, the denial -- pre-Hitler Germany is of course a good example -- & Hitler didn't have meds, the massmedia, etc

a small comment re soul agreements -- i did not agree to being abducted before i incarnated -- the beings ruling this planet do not respect free will

wyn





well, TURIYA, it seems that our fellow countrymen & women are cool w/all kinds of foreign troops here & the evidence of FEMA camps & the presence of our own armed forces on our streets

guess it's our karma -- too many have not worked for peace & allowed our mil/industrial complex to ravage different areas of the world -- protecting us so we could get fat & lazy & allow our liberties [such as they were, but better than nothing] to be taken away, step by step

one of my ancestors helped row George Washington across the Delaware -- bet he's turning in his grave....

Hey Wynderer

It is my understanding that people are of three types, similar to the three different types of horses that a horse trainer would come across. First, there are those that need to be handled physically, may need to feel the sting of what a whip feels like in order to learn the lesson that is being taught; Secondly, there are those that only need to be shown the whip in order to understand the lesson; and then there are those that only need to see the shadow of the whip in order to get it.

Although, we may be coming up against the wall, & very soon now, but I feel that if one keeps their wits & awareness about themselves, there will be a way to move through the next year (or two) to come out of it pretty much unscathed, and not too bad for the worse. There is something in these end times for everyone. Wherever one may be at on their journey in their evolution of consciousness, this physical existence will provide whatever lesson(s) that are needed in order to evolve.

Although Red Elk may be not as sharp as he used to be, there is something in that vision that he has told that resonates quite distinctly with me.
And as Drake, himself, has scoffed at, and chuckled over, the notion that foreign troops will be coming onto American soil, and considers such a notion to be laughably absurd. I do, however, believe he is vastly underestimating the final card that is to be played by the NWO power elite brokers.

Yes, one can call it the white man's bloated egocentric notion, the sense of superiority that one has in thinking that one is the center of this Universe. And that such an invasion scenario would just not ever be possible. But, as I have said previously, Existence has a way of providing precisely what is needed, regardless of what one thinks is highly unlikely.

For its far too obvious, one doesn't need to be a great visionary to see how much conflict there is in this world, even in this forum alone, one doesn't have to travel so far to see how inconsiderate, and disrespectful people are with each other. America (& Americans), absolutely need(s) to go through such a disintegrated scenario to learn the lesson(s) that everyone here has agreed to go through in this life in order to access a greater understanding.

In other words, people, especially in this country America, need to be brought down to their knees. Drake, in a way, is playing his appropriate role in all this. The 'hope-ium' he provides to those that enjoy their dreamstates will be effectively positioning all 'hope-a-dopes' to be blindsided by an extra harsh & extremely rude awakening that is needed in order to successfully proceed forward. Growing in awareness, in consciousness, there is always a certain amount of pain that one will have to endure, it is consequential, it comes along with, and is an essential part of the contract(s) that we have all agreed to prior to sojourning upon this Earth.

Forward to the 3:46 minute mark for the beginning of this Steve Quayle/Hagman interview...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjl89wxJZks

turiya
12th May 2012, 14:54
i suppose forums like Avalon are where folks come when they are starting to get a glimmer of things being pretty bad here on Earth right now

& from the threads & posts, one can see how Humans are dealing w/this -- i see DENIAL in all kinds of threads -- & the denial often seems to go along w/self-centeredness -- not caring about what happens to others -- Jung said ,'Denial acts like guilt'

way more posts on Drake [who focuses on money/the financial system ] than on the fact that our planet is being nuked, for instance [a few more on the thread Bill Ryan started about Fukushima, because Humans are herd animals & like to stay on good terms w/the herd leader] --

i get distraught at times because i see a future of hell itself for all the deniers -- their waking up IS going to be a big shock --

& the denial of our fellow citizens re the armed military presence of both foreign & domestic troops on our streets, & acepting the disinfo that they are here to help us overthrow the NWO -- nothing new there, the denial -- pre-Hitler Germany is of course a good example -- & Hitler didn't have meds, the massmedia, etc

a small comment re soul agreements -- i did not agree to being abducted before i incarnated -- the beings ruling this planet do not respect free will

wyn


Don't leave out the very possibility that many that may be posting here in this forum could very well be paid shill operatives working to divert & persuade others to remain blinded.
As Steve Quayle also alerted Doug Hagman to this very possibility during that May 9 Quayle/Evenson/Hagman interview http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=58574

Speaking of that interview I don't believe I had posted that as of yet. So here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn8zxi4qbXk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zflkXLtntpI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f80GpUKM4vE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35LO3HKKWP4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpTQT86f1sU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIeR3Vl5zKs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajiEdfCHWBU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHwDZgEUfW4

Rogerc
12th May 2012, 15:50
OMG - What to do with 0.5 of a gun ?

wynderer
12th May 2012, 15:57
[dumb question] --what is 0.5 of a gun ?

TURIYA, Steve Quayle was one of my online mentors for some months when i first got online -- i think we met thru vox' forum -- i was freaking out as i was learning about the NWO, satanism, the Nazi connection etc & asked him how people dealt w/learning this stuff

he said some just turn away because they don't want to face it [i'd say that's most]
some go mad
& some fight back


OMG - What to do with 0.5 of a gun?

ljwheat
12th May 2012, 16:16
2LMjSBRX0lQ

sdv
12th May 2012, 17:25
Outside of the USA (with the exception of highly intelligent people such as Noam Chomsky) it is well known that Americans are the most fearful people on the planet. Ken Wilber points out that the shadow of fear is hostility. Think about that.

Russian troops to target Americans? Foreign troops to invade America? It is actually quite sad that Americans cannot see how absurd that is. I remember when I first found out that in American schools during the Cold War American children used to have drills to practice what to do if the commies attacked. I was first astonished, then bemused and then amused - a whole nation of children hiding under their desks!

The only thing approaching military threat on American soil is terrorism, and many of that is acts committed by crazy people. Fighting a war against terrorism is a hostile approach that simply feeds the fear in a never-ending loop.

Challenge the myths that you have been fed (e.g. the rest of the world is not jealous of your wealth and freedom and greatness - we actually see you as trapped in fear and ignorance in an endless cycle; you do not save poor helpless people from oppressive regimes and thus brutally deny them self-determination, and that means that if they want to be commies or Muslims then that is their choice), face the underlying hostility and lose the fear. Otherwise, how many weapons of mass destruction do you need to feel safe?

But maybe Americans, and many others, take this very seriously. All I can say that life is too short to spend time hiding underneath a desk (metaphorically).

Unified Serenity
12th May 2012, 19:30
SDV,

When the Russians and the American's were the only two real super powers with nukes aimed at one another and not Brazil, I think you can cut the population some slack in having concern about being attacked. When was the last time a Brazilian ship was attacked, or a Brazilian airplane was shot down in a war zone? Being king of the hill does make one a target, and when your avowed enemy like Russia and China make statements tantamount to we want to take you over, attack America etc. it is more wise to consider them seriously than pretend it's all a joke. Tell me, why has Russia and other European countries built all these bomb shelters for the people to survive being bombed? I only wish America has bomb shelters for us, but instead we are pretty much on our own, thus we will do the best we can to judge what the seriousness of a threat is and what is foolish. Aparently lots of multi-millionaires are putting serious money into survival homes built from old silos to ground up construction to keep them as comfortable as possible should we be attacked.

wynderer
12th May 2012, 21:07
perhaps i have given the impression that what is concerning me is 'my country' -- i am in agreement w/John Lennon in imagining no countries, no lines drawn on maps by white men to form 'countries' -- but alas, they are a fact of life

i am concerned about the NWO -- a war between China/Russia/USA [if it does happen -- but since we are being nuked to death, they don't really need a war] -- if WWIII broke out, it would just be more divide-&-conquer/kill off some more useless eaters

like Che Guevera told the Native Americans here -- they are in the belly of the beast -- as am i & every other person in the USA, w/our lackies at both borders

Sharleen
12th May 2012, 21:35
Hi, Has anyone looked into Agenda 21 created by the United Nations and adopted in 1992 by 179 Nations, comes under the cover of Sustainable Development via Iclei. Its nothing but a new world order coming from United Nations, and one CRAZY policy that takes everything away from us. Its a FACT. you can view the policy online, but get yourselves a good dictionary. Or you can look up agenda 21 online, there a lot on it. Almost at end game, most of the legislations have already gone through your local council. So the Russian troops could very well be part of the end game to enforce. Clipping is a part of it.

We have it here in New Zealand too, one crazy mad policy.

turiya
13th May 2012, 01:56
SDV

I do believe you have are not quite aware of the fact that there is a big difference between Americans & the USG. Its the USG & those that have attained positions of authority within that entity that have become most obtuse in their way of thinking & in policy making. Over bloated with an unquenchable lust for power on all levels, an insane criminality that is running rampant on every level.

Most Americans still believe that the USG is still their government, a government that serves its people, it is not so. The dream has become a nightmare, but most have not yet awaken to this fact. The fact of the matter is that the USG is a corporation, connected to all other corporations at the hip. Obama is the CEO.

The U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights has long been the target of the parasitic global elitists that pretend to be occupying their offices of trust. Unlike you, much of the world is watching the people of America and how they will respond to their tyrannical government as it increases its pressure on its people. America & its founding documents, these are what have stood in the way so the NWO tyranny can be fully implemented worldwide. Many are watching Americans and how this next phase will transpire. Another poster has recently asked about Agenda 21. Take some time and read this when you are able. Try not to buy too much into what the corporate media whores are saying. There are other alternative news sources available on the internet to find out information.

Many have awoken, but many still many more need to come out of their unconscious sleep. For example, just three years ago, very few Americans understood that the Federal Reserve Banking cartel was a private enterprise. Most thought it was an agency that was a part of the federal government. Many now know this is not the case. Many more will come to understand this in the future, that the Federal Reserve is no more federal than Federal Express.

The global power elitists know they are running out of time. So, its time to implement the final phase of their agenda. The Wall Street Corps & Banksters & USG, under the guise of maintaining civil order will have foreign troops brought onto US soil, via UN proclamation. Russian troops will play a major role in this phase, imo. Americans with the Second Amendment right to bear arms is the main focus that needs to be brought down. Since American troops have taken an oath to protect & defend the Constitution (Second Amendment right to own a gun is included), it is obvious that many in the American military would be hesitant to go against their oath & go after fellow American's right to bear arms. Hence, the need for the NWO to have foreign troops brought in to do this dirty work.

Cheers - turiya


Outside of the USA (with the exception of highly intelligent people such as Noam Chomsky) it is well known that Americans are the most fearful people on the planet. Ken Wilber points out that the shadow of fear is hostility. Think about that.

Russian troops to target Americans? Foreign troops to invade America? It is actually quite sad that Americans cannot see how absurd that is. I remember when I first found out that in American schools during the Cold War American children used to have drills to practice what to do if the commies attacked. I was first astonished, then bemused and then amused - a whole nation of children hiding under their desks!

The only thing approaching military threat on American soil is terrorism, and many of that is acts committed by crazy people. Fighting a war against terrorism is a hostile approach that simply feeds the fear in a never-ending loop.

Challenge the myths that you have been fed (e.g. the rest of the world is not jealous of your wealth and freedom and greatness - we actually see you as trapped in fear and ignorance in an endless cycle; you do not save poor helpless people from oppressive regimes and thus brutally deny them self-determination, and that means that if they want to be commies or Muslims then that is their choice), face the underlying hostility and lose the fear. Otherwise, how many weapons of mass destruction do you need to feel safe?

But maybe Americans, and many others, take this very seriously. All I can say that life is too short to spend time hiding underneath a desk (metaphorically).

turiya
13th May 2012, 02:14
Spetsnaz
What are Spetsnaz?
The butal mistreatment of young children & young adults will create the perfect Spetsnaz soldier.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qImmQ_ZO30&feature=youtu.be

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turiya
13th May 2012, 02:25
OMG - What to do with 0.5 of a gun ?

"Half Gun - Will Travel" - Paladin

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Rogerc
16th May 2012, 03:59
Outside of the USA (with the exception of highly intelligent people such as Noam Chomsky) it is well known that Americans are the most fearful people on the planet. Ken Wilber points out that the shadow of fear is hostility. Think about that.

Russian troops to target Americans? Foreign troops to invade America? It is actually quite sad that Americans cannot see how absurd that is. I remember when I first found out that in American schools during the Cold War American children used to have drills to practice what to do if the commies attacked. I was first astonished, then bemused and then amused - a whole nation of children hiding under their desks!

The only thing approaching military threat on American soil is terrorism, and many of that is acts committed by crazy people. Fighting a war against terrorism is a hostile approach that simply feeds the fear in a never-ending loop.

Challenge the myths that you have been fed (e.g. the rest of the world is not jealous of your wealth and freedom and greatness - we actually see you as trapped in fear and ignorance in an endless cycle; you do not save poor helpless people from oppressive regimes and thus brutally deny them self-determination, and that means that if they want to be commies or Muslims then that is their choice), face the underlying hostility and lose the fear. Otherwise, how many weapons of mass destruction do you need to feel safe?

But maybe Americans, and many others, take this very seriously. All I can say that life is too short to spend time hiding underneath a desk (metaphorically).

And fear seeds aggression. Aggression seeds war.

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It's the same as a family of 2.5, a bloody stupid statistical quote

turiya
16th May 2012, 18:59
The Week America Implodes? May 18 It All Begins... or Ends?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5XlTqnMa_zY

GoodETxSG
16th May 2012, 19:46
I cannot decide who I trust less - someone who trusts the word of a US Ranger or someone who thinks they have made contact with Archangel Gabriel...

And Alex Jones... Obvious fear-mongering troll. Basically cancer incarnate.

If man kills man, that is his own fault. His responsibility is in recognizing himself in the face of the other. Doom and gloom do us no good, as they serve only to lower our vibration into a state of fear and panic. Fear and panic serve no one, not even proverbial bastard elites. Preparedness is not in responding to fear or panic but in being entirely present in the moment.

Go do something fun today!

I hear ya there brutha... no matter how many times actual MILITARY Former and current Soldiers Explain how it is, what its like to those who have NO IDEA... never been there, never done that... who have these belief systems/religions of fear and dread of anyone in a Combat Uniform... they all have been brain washed and willing to kill your wife and crush your child's head in with the butts of their rifles to save bullets... that today's veterans and current military are blind and deaf robots following orders... march... lock and load... look for any heat in your thermal scope and KILL KILL KILL... then we will snap our fingers and you will relax, go back to being a good man, patriotic and family oriented... right now... SNAP!!! Simple as that... We soldiers who deny that are just asleep.... Have you guys seen this thread link?... ALL of us are evil? We will NOT rise up and bare arms against the despots that run the world??? This soldier says it all people... this is who we are... NOT the Black Water Goons or Feds that will dress up and play bloody games... watch the video... this is who we are. We take our oath very seriously... http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45239-One-Soldiers-view&p=489616#post489616

YES, I guess we are ALL asleep... we are in all kinds of denial in the minds of the directors of fear porn... their job... Turn YOU against the military that will most likely protect your... Attack Feds, Black Water Mercs, FEMA and DHS/NATO (Certain Branches anyway) all you want... our troops will be fighting against them and shovig their butts in the camps built for us... many of us have seen the pans, know what is to come... but are going to be unable to convince the Fear Porn Stars... they will doubt it even as it happens. :rolleyes:

GoodETxSG
16th May 2012, 20:20
OMG - What to do with 0.5 of a gun ?

"Half Gun - Will Travel" - Paladin

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Its the training not the tool... if you don't have the training all you deserve is half a gun... Some of us can drop an adversary with a rolled up magazine, our thumb (Not where you think people) or yea, .5 of a gun... take down an armed thug that drops his guard... there ya go, Uniform to help you slip around controlled areas, their communication device and nice clean Side arm and rifle w/ammo and what ever else they have packed... the untrained can throw the .5 piece of gun at the Humvee that drives by in frustration... then go in the house and think about whats next. Love the "HALF gun will Travel"... lol, will travel to the opposite direction ASAP... If you are not Ex Mil or Law Enf... there is plenty of info out there... train train... you will either look like a total A$$ OR a genius who family comes to for refuge.

turiya
16th May 2012, 22:04
And Alex Jones... Obvious fear-mongering troll.

Try not to focus on Alex Jones. Better to focus on what his guests are saying.

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/turiya_file/Alex_Jone_Defense_Contractors_New_Mission_for_DHS2 .jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Vv_e-PmCFN0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Vv_e-PmCFN0

GoodETxSG
16th May 2012, 22:48
And Alex Jones... Obvious fear-mongering troll.

Try not to focus on Alex Jones. Better to focus on what his guests are saying.

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/turiya_file/Alex_Jone_Defense_Contractors_New_Mission_for_DHS2 .jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Vv_e-PmCFN0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Vv_e-PmCFN0

I do not usually take all of Alex's info as gospel... but this is RIGHT ON... I have worked along side these guys and they are born killers and have no problem killing and raising Hell in their own neighborhoods and even their own families... scary people. Toss them in what ever uniform you need them to impersonate and discredit by an atrocity here and there nicely publicized for best effect. I have been trying to get this point across to stubborn people who think our Regular US Troops will be vamping out shooting grandma and stomping the heads of children in... but those who are convinced will stay that way.

Hervé
16th May 2012, 23:51
After listening to AJ and his guest... time to revisit this sobering paper:



Twilight Of The Psychopaths

by Dr. Kevin Barrett
Spanish version (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_ponerology09.htm)

from TheCanadian (http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/) Website

“Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it.”
– John Lennon, before his murder by CIA mind-control subject Mark David Chapman

When Gandhi was asked his opinion of Western civilization he said it would be a good idea. But that oft-cited quote, is misleading, assuming as it does that civilization is an unmitigated blessing.

Civilized people, we are told, live peacefully and cooperatively with their fellows, sharing the necessary labour in order to obtain the leisure to develop arts and sciences. And while that would be a good idea, it is not a good description of what has been going on in the so-called advanced cultures during the past 8,000 years.

Civilization, as we know it, is largely the creation of psychopaths. All civilizations, our own included, have been based on slavery and “warfare.” Incidentally, the latter term is a euphemism for mass murder.

The prevailing recipe for civilization is simple:
1. Use lies and brainwashing to create an army of controlled, systematic mass murderers
2. Use that army to enslave large numbers of people (i.e. seize control of their labour power and its fruits)
3. Use that slave labour power to improve the brainwashing process (by using the economic surplus to employ scribes, priests, and PR men). Then go back to step one and repeat the process.


Psychopaths have played a disproportionate role in the development of civilization, because they are hard-wired to lie, kill, injure, and generally inflict great suffering on other humans without feeling any remorse. The inventor of civilization — the first tribal chieftain who successfully brainwashed an army of controlled mass murderers—was almost certainly a genetic psychopath.

Since that momentous discovery, psychopaths have enjoyed a significant advantage over non-psychopaths in the struggle for power in civilizational hierarchies — especially military hierarchies.

Military institutions are tailor-made for psychopathic killers. The 5% or so of human males who feel no remorse about killing their fellow human beings make the best soldiers. And the 95% who are extremely reluctant to kill make terrible soldiers — unless they are brainwashed with highly sophisticated modern techniques that turn them (temporarily it is hoped) into functional psychopaths.

In On Killing (http://www.amazon.com/Killing-Psychological-Cost-Learning-Society/dp/0316330116/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208291611&sr=8-1), Lt. Col. Dave Grossman has re-written military history, to highlight what other histories hide: The fact that military science is less about strategy and technology, than about overcoming the instinctive human reluctance to kill members of our own species.

The true “Revolution in Military Affairs” was not Donald Rumsfeld’s move to high-tech in 2001, but Brigadier Gen. S.L.A. Marshall’s discovery in the 1940s that only 15-20% of World War II soldiers along the line of fire would use their weapons:

“Those (80-85%) who did not fire did not run or hide (in many cases they were willing to risk great danger to rescue comrades, get ammunition, or run messages), but they simply would not fire their weapons at the enemy, even when faced with repeated waves of banzai charges”
(Grossman, p. 4).

Marshall’s discovery and subsequent research, proved that in all previous wars, a tiny minority of soldiers — the 5% who are natural-born psychopaths, and perhaps a few temporarily-insane imitators—did almost all the killing.

Normal men just went through the motions and, if at all possible, refused to take the life of an enemy soldier, even if that meant giving up their own. The implication: Wars are ritualized mass murders by psychopaths of non-psychopaths. (This cannot be good for humanity’s genetic endowment!)

Marshall’s work, brought a Copernican revolution to military science. In the past, everyone believed that the soldier willing to kill for his country was the (heroic) norm, while one who refused to fight was a (cowardly) aberration. The truth, as it turned out, was that the normative soldier hailed from the psychopathic five percent.

The sane majority, would rather die than fight.

The implication, too frightening for even the likes of Marshall and Grossman to fully digest, was that the norms for soldiers’ behavior in battle had been set by psychopaths. That meant that psychopaths were in control of the military as an institution.

Worse, it meant that psychopaths were in control of society’s perception of military affairs. Evidently, psychopaths exercised an enormous amount of power in seemingly sane, normal society.

How could that be?
In Political Ponerology (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/polpon/politicalponerologyccr.htm), Andrzej Lobaczewski explains that clinical psychopaths enjoy advantages even in non-violent competitions to climb the ranks of social hierarchies. Because they can lie without remorse (and without the telltale physiological stress that is measured by lie detector tests) psychopaths can always say whatever is necessary to get what they want.

In court, for example, psychopaths can tell extreme bald-faced lies in a plausible manner, while their sane opponents are handicapped by an emotional predisposition to remain within hailing distance of the truth. Too often, the judge or jury imagines that the truth must be somewhere in the middle, and then issues decisions that benefit the psychopath. As with judges and juries, so too with those charged with decisions concerning who to promote and who not to promote in corporate, military and governmental hierarchies.

The result is that all hierarchies inevitably become top-heavy with psychopaths

[...]


Continue here: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...nerology08.htm


Guess what type constitutes the majority of these mercenaries?

GoodETxSG
17th May 2012, 08:05
After listening to AJ and his guest... time to revisit this sobering paper:



Twilight Of The Psychopaths

by Dr. Kevin Barrett
Spanish version (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_ponerology09.htm)

from TheCanadian (http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/) Website

“Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it.”
– John Lennon, before his murder by CIA mind-control subject Mark David Chapman

When Gandhi was asked his opinion of Western civilization he said it would be a good idea. But that oft-cited quote, is misleading, assuming as it does that civilization is an unmitigated blessing.

Civilized people, we are told, live peacefully and cooperatively with their fellows, sharing the necessary labour in order to obtain the leisure to develop arts and sciences. And while that would be a good idea, it is not a good description of what has been going on in the so-called advanced cultures during the past 8,000 years.

Civilization, as we know it, is largely the creation of psychopaths. All civilizations, our own included, have been based on slavery and “warfare.” Incidentally, the latter term is a euphemism for mass murder.

The prevailing recipe for civilization is simple:
1. Use lies and brainwashing to create an army of controlled, systematic mass murderers
2. Use that army to enslave large numbers of people (i.e. seize control of their labour power and its fruits)
3. Use that slave labour power to improve the brainwashing process (by using the economic surplus to employ scribes, priests, and PR men). Then go back to step one and repeat the process.


Psychopaths have played a disproportionate role in the development of civilization, because they are hard-wired to lie, kill, injure, and generally inflict great suffering on other humans without feeling any remorse. The inventor of civilization — the first tribal chieftain who successfully brainwashed an army of controlled mass murderers—was almost certainly a genetic psychopath.

Since that momentous discovery, psychopaths have enjoyed a significant advantage over non-psychopaths in the struggle for power in civilizational hierarchies — especially military hierarchies.

Military institutions are tailor-made for psychopathic killers. The 5% or so of human males who feel no remorse about killing their fellow human beings make the best soldiers. And the 95% who are extremely reluctant to kill make terrible soldiers — unless they are brainwashed with highly sophisticated modern techniques that turn them (temporarily it is hoped) into functional psychopaths.

In On Killing (http://www.amazon.com/Killing-Psychological-Cost-Learning-Society/dp/0316330116/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208291611&sr=8-1), Lt. Col. Dave Grossman has re-written military history, to highlight what other histories hide: The fact that military science is less about strategy and technology, than about overcoming the instinctive human reluctance to kill members of our own species.

The true “Revolution in Military Affairs” was not Donald Rumsfeld’s move to high-tech in 2001, but Brigadier Gen. S.L.A. Marshall’s discovery in the 1940s that only 15-20% of World War II soldiers along the line of fire would use their weapons:

“Those (80-85%) who did not fire did not run or hide (in many cases they were willing to risk great danger to rescue comrades, get ammunition, or run messages), but they simply would not fire their weapons at the enemy, even when faced with repeated waves of banzai charges”
(Grossman, p. 4).

Marshall’s discovery and subsequent research, proved that in all previous wars, a tiny minority of soldiers — the 5% who are natural-born psychopaths, and perhaps a few temporarily-insane imitators—did almost all the killing.

Normal men just went through the motions and, if at all possible, refused to take the life of an enemy soldier, even if that meant giving up their own. The implication: Wars are ritualized mass murders by psychopaths of non-psychopaths. (This cannot be good for humanity’s genetic endowment!)

Marshall’s work, brought a Copernican revolution to military science. In the past, everyone believed that the soldier willing to kill for his country was the (heroic) norm, while one who refused to fight was a (cowardly) aberration. The truth, as it turned out, was that the normative soldier hailed from the psychopathic five percent.

The sane majority, would rather die than fight.

The implication, too frightening for even the likes of Marshall and Grossman to fully digest, was that the norms for soldiers’ behavior in battle had been set by psychopaths. That meant that psychopaths were in control of the military as an institution.

Worse, it meant that psychopaths were in control of society’s perception of military affairs. Evidently, psychopaths exercised an enormous amount of power in seemingly sane, normal society.

How could that be?
In Political Ponerology (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/polpon/politicalponerologyccr.htm), Andrzej Lobaczewski explains that clinical psychopaths enjoy advantages even in non-violent competitions to climb the ranks of social hierarchies. Because they can lie without remorse (and without the telltale physiological stress that is measured by lie detector tests) psychopaths can always say whatever is necessary to get what they want.

In court, for example, psychopaths can tell extreme bald-faced lies in a plausible manner, while their sane opponents are handicapped by an emotional predisposition to remain within hailing distance of the truth. Too often, the judge or jury imagines that the truth must be somewhere in the middle, and then issues decisions that benefit the psychopath. As with judges and juries, so too with those charged with decisions concerning who to promote and who not to promote in corporate, military and governmental hierarchies.

The result is that all hierarchies inevitably become top-heavy with psychopaths

[...]


Continue here: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...nerology08.htm


Guess what type constitutes the majority of these mercenaries?


Lots of wisdom in this post, I would how ever exchange your bullet points from "ARMY" to "Corporate Armies and Mercenaries"... my fingers grow weary of trying to type time after time that the US ARMY is not brainwashed etc... this generation of US Military is the most awake and aware of any so far... We learn to problem solve for our selves, not to just blindly follow orders... yea lot of that in boot camp, but for a different purpose. We on the battle field make split second life and death decisions more and more often with only a CPT or SGT if even that at hand. When you are without communications and have a task to complete you do it... but this generation are among the most educated and intelligent soldiers to ever beat feet towards the danger for the American people and we are getting a bad wrap... These dayam ole private security/army forces wearing OUR uniforms doing evil deeds anger us far more that it angers any citizen perched on their couch sucking in the MSM BS.

GoodETxSG
17th May 2012, 08:17
Post Script:
Much of the above quote's and info would be updated and more accurate if you would change the bullet points from "ARMY" to "Corporate Armies and Private Security Mercenaries"... these guys make the ARMY sick and anger us far more than they do the citizens perched on their couch watching their HD TV sucking up the MSM BS... These Merc's in OUR uniforms doing evil deeds being reported as being done by US??? Half the time we cannot tell if we are riding in a transport with one of these Merc's so the MSM and average Citizen have no way of knowing.

There ARE bad eggs in every bunch... in all branches of the US Service. These guys soon leave the service to make over half a million a year for a Corp/Private Army while the patriots stay in and fight for the flag, constitution and the civilians at home to give them the right to bad mouth them when they like... Its not the ARMY taking away your rights or enforcing the decrees... It is the Federal Gov passing illegal bills and using Fed "Agents" and Merc's to do this...

Most of us have been through the training for internment camps and detaining hostiles... after the lack of training that led to the Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse (Some of which was manipulated by CIA and willing bad eggs in the Mil) the training was needed. But we will not be putting people in FEMA camps like you saw in the movie Red Dawn, Men, women, children and the elderly behind chain link razor wire fences... if we have anyone behind those fences it will be the feds who wipe every morning with a new piece of the Constitution they ripped off the document the day earlier... I cannot sell it any stronger than that my friends.

GoodETxSG
17th May 2012, 10:22
Hey friends,
On a similar note of US troops and most important the ones returning from the wars... PTSD, Traumatic Brain Injuries and Seizures related to the head injuries are causing MANY thousands of soldiers to be discriminated against, Not Hired, or Illegally Fired.

It actually happened to me, I ended up having a seizure on the way home from work because my job made me come in after having a cluster of TBI related seizures... then I had a few seizures at work due to the stress of the HR dept causing issues... they then fired me... very illegally. This happened in April and I have found a better job and am finally NOT working for ANY types of Banks now... But I have opened a MAJOR EEOC law suit that may be one of the biggest land mark case that will help hundreds of thousands of returning vets....

In Dallas we are doing a protest at that company, but going to the Facebook page for this protest and clicking "Like" and posting a comment will be a great show of support to the troops, Oath Keepers and wounded warrior groups that are watching this closely... MODS spank me if I am not supposed to do this but it is important... the site is http://www.facebook.com/jobdiscrimination

toad
17th May 2012, 23:06
Could have done without all the relgious overtones, this is some serious fear porn.

Lifebringer
17th May 2012, 23:42
The "mark of the beast" is the changing of God's Sabbaths and the 1st defiance of man. Man has been decieved by the Catholic and Roman Church and Roman Government Caligula who changed the seventh day sabbath of God, to the 1st day of the week Sunday. This has severed and decieved God's children for millenia and if you are to get back to HIM, you are to start remembering the sabbath to be recognized as God's covenant with Abraham. The covenant covers both the Old and New Testaments and the apostles and Jesus honored the Passover as Christ was God's sacrificial only Son and Lamb of God. something so simple has decieved the world for all the religious churches now worship on Sunday as told by parents and grandparents, but that is the reasoning for the verse: "He decieved all the world." That old wicked Devil/Satan/Shatan.

toad
18th May 2012, 00:17
Hey friends,
On a similar note of US troops and most important the ones returning from the wars... PTSD, Traumatic Brain Injuries and Seizures related to the head injuries are causing MANY thousands of soldiers to be discriminated against, Not Hired, or Illegally Fired.

It actually happened to me, I ended up having a seizure on the way home from work because my job made me come in after having a cluster of TBI related seizures... then I had a few seizures at work due to the stress of the HR dept causing issues... they then fired me... very illegally. This happened in April and I have found a better job and am finally NOT working for ANY types of Banks now... But I have opened a MAJOR EEOC law suit that may be one of the biggest land mark case that will help hundreds of thousands of returning vets....

In Dallas we are doing a protest at that company, but going to the Facebook page for this protest and clicking "Like" and posting a comment will be a great show of support to the troops, Oath Keepers and wounded warrior groups that are watching this closely... MODS spank me if I am not supposed to do this but it is important... the site is http://www.facebook.com/jobdiscrimination


Yeah its very sad the mistreatment of returning vets, all these companies and people keep touting the 'support your troops' but then this kind of stuff happens routinely almost, I hope all works out for you my friend.

Bill Ryan
18th May 2012, 01:02
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Here's a snippet from Camelot days. We were told the following story personally by the friend of a security worker in a maintenance and storage depot for the I-35 superhighway. (http://www.i35highway.com)

http://www.i35highway.com/images/interstate-35-map.gif

This depot was partially underground. The security worker discovered that there was a section of the underground part of the depot that contained thousands of new German and Russian military vehicles, many of them personnel carriers. He had no explanation for this. Our source was smuggled in to see the vehicles himself, which he did with his own eyes.

As I recall, this incident (his witnessing the vehicles) was over 10 years ago. Another jigsaw piece for the puzzle...

turiya
18th May 2012, 01:54
DHS Janet Nepolitano Letter, dated 2009, to Russia requesting several brigades of Russian troops to quell civil unrest


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1imx9LQ_f4

GoodETxSG
18th May 2012, 02:18
------

Here's a snippet from Camelot days. We were told the following story personally by the friend of a security worker in a maintenance and storage depot for the I-35 superhighway. (http://www.i35highway.com)

http://www.i35highway.com/images/interstate-35-map.gif

This depot was partially underground. The security worker discovered that there was a section of the underground part of the depot that contained thousands of new German and Russian military vehicles, many of them personnel carriers. He had no explanation for this. Our source was smuggled in to see the vehicles himself, which he did with his own eyes.

As I recall, this incident (his witnessing the vehicles) was over 10 years ago. Another jigsaw piece for the puzzle...

The building continues to this very moment Bill… Right in front of our eyes, parts of 35 underground through DFW is still underway… no one asks where all the dirt goes and why there is NO visible progress after 3 decades of traffic delays and nonstop construction… we just keep inching along honking and flipping each other off. But the Toll roads spring up over night.

Mozart
18th May 2012, 02:35
The building continues to this very moment Bill… Right in front of our eyes, parts of 35 underground through DFW is still underway… no one asks where all the dirt goes and why there is NO visible progress after 3 decades of traffic delays and nonstop construction… we just keep inching along honking and flipping each other off. But the Toll roads spring up over night.




They are STILL building that effing, goddamn superhiway? Oh, fvck! Eff'n relentless, those bloody, bugger bastards!


We need our troops to ACT NOW in arresting the eff'n bastard elites!

toad
18th May 2012, 02:53
Hey friends,
On a similar note of US troops and most important the ones returning from the wars... PTSD, Traumatic Brain Injuries and Seizures related to the head injuries are causing MANY thousands of soldiers to be discriminated against, Not Hired, or Illegally Fired.

It actually happened to me, I ended up having a seizure on the way home from work because my job made me come in after having a cluster of TBI related seizures... then I had a few seizures at work due to the stress of the HR dept causing issues... they then fired me... very illegally. This happened in April and I have found a better job and am finally NOT working for ANY types of Banks now... But I have opened a MAJOR EEOC law suit that may be one of the biggest land mark case that will help hundreds of thousands of returning vets....

In Dallas we are doing a protest at that company, but going to the Facebook page for this protest and clicking "Like" and posting a comment will be a great show of support to the troops, Oath Keepers and wounded warrior groups that are watching this closely... MODS spank me if I am not supposed to do this but it is important... the site is http://www.facebook.com/jobdiscrimination

I keep hearing from a few friends in the service that more and more servicemen are joining the private firms because they are finding they can make more money via these companies. What do you know about this? How is it legal and how do the servicemen allow mercs to do things under their banner? Or don't they know?

GoodETxSG
18th May 2012, 03:04
Hey friends,
On a similar note of US troops and most important the ones returning from the wars... PTSD, Traumatic Brain Injuries and Seizures related to the head injuries are causing MANY thousands of soldiers to be discriminated against, Not Hired, or Illegally Fired.

It actually happened to me, I ended up having a seizure on the way home from work because my job made me come in after having a cluster of TBI related seizures... then I had a few seizures at work due to the stress of the HR dept causing issues... they then fired me... very illegally. This happened in April and I have found a better job and am finally NOT working for ANY types of Banks now... But I have opened a MAJOR EEOC law suit that may be one of the biggest land mark case that will help hundreds of thousands of returning vets....

In Dallas we are doing a protest at that company, but going to the Facebook page for this protest and clicking "Like" and posting a comment will be a great show of support to the troops, Oath Keepers and wounded warrior groups that are watching this closely... MODS spank me if I am not supposed to do this but it is important... the site is http://www.facebook.com/jobdiscrimination

I keep hearing from a few friends in the service that more and more servicemen are joining the private firms because they are finding they can make more money via these companies. What do you know about this? How is it legal and how do the servicemen allow mercs to do things under their banner? Or don't they know?

If so they are the sociopaths and blood suckers of the military or soon will be after joining and literlly selling their souls to these private armies for folded up pieces of green paper... These mercs are going to head up the false flags attacks and EVIL deeds done in the name of the US Military... not a wise career choice... guys that have fought in combat and made it back home, who then look to go back into combat for material gain are lost souls or well on their way to being lost souls...

GoodETxSG
18th May 2012, 03:07
The building continues to this very moment Bill… Right in front of our eyes, parts of 35 underground through DFW is still underway… no one asks where all the dirt goes and why there is NO visible progress after 3 decades of traffic delays and nonstop construction… we just keep inching along honking and flipping each other off. But the Toll roads spring up over night.




They are STILL building that effing, goddamn superhiway? Oh, fvck! Eff'n relentless, those bloody, bugger bastards!


We need our troops to ACT NOW in arresting the eff'n bastard elites!

Yea... lol, and almost NO Progress other than cosmetic to show for it... obvious money pits... people I know that run directional drillin rigs to pull fiber in these "Tubes" say it is a friggin super highway and creepy to work in especially with all of he "Expansive Clay and Shale/Calichi" that they are building hrough... Stupid waste of money...

wynderer
18th May 2012, 03:15
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toad
18th May 2012, 03:30
Hey friends,
On a similar note of US troops and most important the ones returning from the wars... PTSD, Traumatic Brain Injuries and Seizures related to the head injuries are causing MANY thousands of soldiers to be discriminated against, Not Hired, or Illegally Fired.

It actually happened to me, I ended up having a seizure on the way home from work because my job made me come in after having a cluster of TBI related seizures... then I had a few seizures at work due to the stress of the HR dept causing issues... they then fired me... very illegally. This happened in April and I have found a better job and am finally NOT working for ANY types of Banks now... But I have opened a MAJOR EEOC law suit that may be one of the biggest land mark case that will help hundreds of thousands of returning vets....

In Dallas we are doing a protest at that company, but going to the Facebook page for this protest and clicking "Like" and posting a comment will be a great show of support to the troops, Oath Keepers and wounded warrior groups that are watching this closely... MODS spank me if I am not supposed to do this but it is important... the site is http://www.facebook.com/jobdiscrimination

I keep hearing from a few friends in the service that more and more servicemen are joining the private firms because they are finding they can make more money via these companies. What do you know about this? How is it legal and how do the servicemen allow mercs to do things under their banner? Or don't they know?

If so they are the sociopaths and blood suckers of the military or soon will be after joining and literlly selling their souls to these private armies for folded up pieces of green paper... These mercs are going to head up the false flags attacks and EVIL deeds done in the name of the US Military... not a wise career choice... guys that have fought in combat and made it back home, who then look to go back into combat for material gain are lost souls or well on their way to being lost souls...


I couldn't agree more my friend, its a terrible career choice and choice in general only to make some more money which will inevitably lead to ruthless killing and the cultivation of terrible atroscities that are vaguely accountable. Its sad how the millitary went private so quick, it seems the whole theater in the middle east was just a grounds for testing shenanigans of this nature.

Hervé
18th May 2012, 05:28
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Here's a snippet from Camelot days. We were told the following story personally by the friend of a security worker in a maintenance and storage depot for the I-35 superhighway. (http://www.i35highway.com)

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This depot was partially underground. The security worker discovered that there was a section of the underground part of the depot that contained thousands of new German and Russian military vehicles, many of them personnel carriers. He had no explanation for this. Our source was smuggled in to see the vehicles himself, which he did with his own eyes.

As I recall, this incident (his witnessing the vehicles) was over 10 years ago. Another jigsaw piece for the puzzle...

Hi Bill, burning question: any idea on how so many vehicles got there without raising an eyebrow?

GoodETxSG
18th May 2012, 18:03
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Here's a snippet from Camelot days. We were told the following story personally by the friend of a security worker in a maintenance and storage depot for the I-35 superhighway. (http://www.i35highway.com)

[...]

This depot was partially underground. The security worker discovered that there was a section of the underground part of the depot that contained thousands of new German and Russian military vehicles, many of them personnel carriers. He had no explanation for this. Our source was smuggled in to see the vehicles himself, which he did with his own eyes.

As I recall, this incident (his witnessing the vehicles) was over 10 years ago. Another jigsaw piece for the puzzle...

Hi Bill, burning question: any idea on how so many vehicles got there without raising an eyebrow?

Mostly we transport this type of HW via trains between 1 and 3AM... The underground tube system is used too depending on point to point destinations...

Hervé
18th May 2012, 18:17
Thanks for the info.

I thought of the underground tube system from your previous comment on the dirt nowhere to be seen being moved around.

turiya
18th May 2012, 22:59
Audio mp3: Stan Deyo & Steve Quayle on Russian Troops 5-12-2012
They are not only coming, but they are here...
http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=58675

Maia Gabrial
19th May 2012, 16:23
I wonder if there are Americans in Russia doing the same there?

Unified Serenity
19th May 2012, 17:44
I seriously doubt Russia would allow any large contingent of American troops there. They don't mind rounding people up in Russia and the people there know it. They have had the gulags and camps for generations. Of course we house the largest known prison population which is used to keep the lower class in line. Upper class crooks get fines. Bezmenov stated very plainly that the reason America is so easily destabilized is because of our open society while Russia KGB agents spend 90% of their time keeping tabs on the people and who comes and goes from the country.

DreamsInDigital
19th May 2012, 21:12
Maia,

From what I've been told there is a large group of US Soldiers in Siberia for training.

turiya
20th May 2012, 03:18
Joel Skousen on Russia/China vs America
http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/turiya_file/joel_skousen.jpg
Part 1: http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=58680
Part 2: http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=58682
Part 3: http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=58683
Part 4: http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=58684
Part 5: http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=58685
Part 6: http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=58686

P.S. Comment of Drake being Bogus: http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=58689

Unified Serenity
20th May 2012, 03:32
Maia,

From what I've been told there is a large group of US Soldiers in Siberia for training.

Do you have some info about this happening in the recent past or currently? All I found was:

The American Expeditionary Force (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expeditionary_warfare) Siberia (AEF Siberia) was a United States Army (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army) force that was involved in the Russian Civil War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Civil_War) in Vladivostok (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladivostok), Russian Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire), during the end of World War I (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I) after the October Revolution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Revolution), from 1918 to 1920.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Expeditionary_Force_Siberia

turiya
26th May 2012, 22:59
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0ctEQqlf2xw

turiya
28th May 2012, 03:24
Jack, a military man, tells of his prophetic dream he had in 2007, in which he saw America being invaded by foreign troops. He has determined that this will take place in 2012 on Black Friday - the day after Thanksgiving, when most American troops will be away from their bases visiting family members.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awhDI6afCRM&feature=youtu.be