Mayan 2012 myth debunked

[Krullenjongen]

Science news: Mayan excavation uncovers new calendar that debunks 2012 myth

Recent findings at a Mayan excavation in Xultun, Guatemala reveal new evidence of astronomical calendars that refute the popular idea that the Mayans predicted the end of the world in 2012.

The report, Ancient Maya Astronomical Tables from Xultun, Guatemala was recently published in the May 2012 issue of Science by a team of researchers from the Archaeology Department of Boston University, the Department of Art and Art History, University of Texas at Austin and the Department of Physics and Astronomy at Colgate.

In 2005, Dr. William Saturno, then at the University of New Hampshire, discovered the oldest-known Mayan murals at a site at Xultun. In 2010, one of Dr Saturno's students discovered a vegetation-covered structure that has now been excavated using grants from the National Geographic Society.
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read more: http://www.examiner.com/article/science-news-mayan-excavation-uncovers-new-calendar-that-debunks-2012-myth

[Ricker]

I find it desturbing that this is NOT getting the media attention that the original reports did. I was expecting this to be all over the media.
Just proves that doom and gloom sells!

Ricker

[apokalypse]

what ever saying on Mainstream must be true...

[Camilo]

The reason it isn't getting media attention is because it isn't fear mongering, but quite the opposite.

[Vitalux]

We certainly are a cleaver species.
Lets all watch the horizon for the next "The End is Near" prediction.
After all, isn't that what we do:confused:

http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/30500000/Free-Idiot-Test-random-30504314-375-325.jpg

[dreamer]

Anyone who read enough on the subject already knew that they weren't predicting the end of the world.

[Wind]

We all know who started these news. They are spreading disinfo for a reason.

[Vitalux]

I find it desturbing that this is NOT getting the media attention that the original reports did. I was expecting this to be all over the media.
Just proves that doom and gloom sells!

Ricker

Definitely


If you notice that the majority of folks here at Avalon, do not wish to discuss this thread in detail because it is "Not what they want to hear".

Had for example this had been a thread about some 4 year old boy telling his mother that he had a dream that a huge wave was going to destroy the whole planted it would have been debated for 50 pages with many people talking about how they had an intuitive feeling that "must" mean that it was about to happen before the end of the week.
Once the end of the week comes to a conclusion, the doom and gloomers will flock to the next thread to fuel their "end is near passion".

Instead of learning to laugh at themselves they will blame the " disinfo agents and the rest of society instead of including themselves as the fools for both believing in such nonsense and helping to spread the virus.

But then few will agree with this post, because it is not what they want to read and hear....

truth hurts ...don't it:(

[Free Bird]

I have to admit, I find the near silence on this topic by Avalonians to be deafening and I don't understand it :confused:

There is another thread about this discovery here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45003-Mayan-prophecy-The-world-won--t-end-as-a-newfound-calendar-goes-on-and-on-and-on).

Going off topic, what I found very strange about the paintings is that they appear to show Egyptian people alongside a Mayan person. To me, this offers proof that there was global travel by civilisations across the planet at the time of the Maya and this is what mainstream scientists and those interested in ancient civilisations should be talking about.

See my post here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45003-Mayan-prophecy-The-world-won--t-end-as-a-newfound-calendar-goes-on-and-on-and-on&p=486706#post486706

[Free Bird]

Here's a link to a video discussing the discovery: http://video.nationalgeographic.com/video/news/history-archaeology-news/maya-art-calendar-vin/

The video casually mentions the three male figures "wearing uniform mitre style headdresses" but neglecting to add that their skin colour is different to the Mayans. It seems so obvious and yet there doesn't seem to be any curiosity on this fact of difference at all .... Like I said, strange!!!

[East Sun]

Might be an Atlantis connection. The ones that left Atlantis went in different directions, to Egypt and parts of what is now South America and possibly other places. There are many similarities found in different cultures.

I believe there were races of non humans or semi human beings with powers beyond what we have today in certain ways related to travel on and off Earth.

I don't think anyone on here thinks that 2012 will bring the end of the world at least not physically.

[billyji]

I have to admit, I find the near silence on this topic by Avalonians to be deafening and I don't understand it :confused:

There is another thread about this discovery here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45003-Mayan-prophecy-The-world-won--t-end-as-a-newfound-calendar-goes-on-and-on-and-on).



This may be because of the Title and the OP of the thread, The Mayans NEVER at any time said that the end of the world was coming upon us in 2012, The Mayans talk of MANY cycles, The 26.000 yr cycle is just one of them. The end of an age, or end of time as we know it, Therefore a discovery of a new calander that goes beyond 2012 makes lots of sense and does not debunk the 2012 myth. again the OP put me off.

My advice would be to change the title for more interest.

peace

[Peace of Mind]

I have to admit, I find the near silence on this topic by Avalonians to be deafening and I don't understand it :confused:

There is another thread about this discovery here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45003-Mayan-prophecy-The-world-won--t-end-as-a-newfound-calendar-goes-on-and-on-and-on).

Going off topic, what I found very strange about the paintings is that they appear to show Egyptian people alongside a Mayan person. To me, this offers proof that there was global travel by civilisations across the planet at the time of the Maya and this is what mainstream scientists and those interested in ancient civilisations should be talking about.


Unfortunately, that no longer happens here. It's as if the main topics to get attention are the ones filled with tons of speculations, nothing ever gets done (or solved) in this way. If it makes a grain of sense and/or removes the doom and gloom...it isn't of any interest. Perhaps, deep down people want to die but are to manipulated to realize it. They are tricked into giving up their lives willingly by helping to manifest the demise of the people. This is what tptb always wanted...hopefully this will be brought into a brighter light...as of now the illumination is a bit dim.

Peace

[Free Bird]

Thank you East Sun, billyji and Peace of Mind for your replies. I feel it's really important to discuss what's happening.

@ East Sun: I feel you are right. In this case, there to be seems a connection between what we know of "Atlantis" and what we know of the Mayan world. These images are open to interpretation ... just like the interpretation of the scholar who found evidence of Egyptian mummies contaminated with cocaine (http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-mystery-of-the-cocaine-mummies/4od). At the end of the day, it was irrefutable evidence and yet the mainstream scientists come together, discredit the scientist concerned and move onward elsewhere in their blindness.

@ billyji: I agree, though we cannot demand the OP change their title of the thread. @ Krullenjongen: Have you thought about renaming this thread something along the lines of ...... "Mayan People look beyond 2012" or ... "2012 - The year calculations begin" ... or from my pespective ... "Scientists debunk 2012 cataclysm but discover international collaboration in cave paintings!"

@ Peace of Mind: I see your point ... it seems as if we are expected to expect the worse , by who, I'm not sure, but Humanity ever increasingly seems willing to do take on the mantle of futility. Perhaps this is an attempt by TBTB to subject our "will" to the grinding mill of authoritarian oppression, eventually succeeding in their attempt to blend us all into homogeneous slaves? We will and do naturally resist however, especially when we discover it's against our interests :)

I trust and hope we discover it here.

Peace and Love

[Krullenjongen]

If you notice that the majority of folks here at Avalon, do not wish to discuss this thread in detail because it is "Not what they want to hear".(


I have to admit, I find the near silence on this topic by Avalonians to be deafening and I don't understand it :confused:

I was thinking the same thing.
i'm not looking for many thanks but i found it strange that the thread has 600 hits and two "thanks".
i thought it was an interesting piece of information (even so much that kerry cassidy placed a similar article on her site about it)
it look a bit like "saying you are open minded but being stuck in your own views" but hey who am i to judge. It could just be that i am the last to hear about it and everyone is done discussing it ;)

[Fred Steeves]

"Recent findings at a Mayan excavation in Xultun, Guatemala reveal new evidence of astronomical calendars that refute the popular idea that the Mayans predicted the end of the world in 2012".

Another member, dreamer, already pointed this out in post #6, and I'll second what he said. It's no mystery why this is not a hot thread with millions of thank yous, and it's not because of closed minds. The above quote from the start of the original post told me pretty much all I needed to know, and that I wasn't interested either. Most people here, whether they think there's something to the 2012 thing or not, fully understand it does NOT foretell the end of the world this year.

Nothing personal ya'll, just giving you a heads up.

Cheers,
Fred

[Krullenjongen]

Thanks Fred!
i thought there were more people here that were convinced that 2012 would bring the end or a big cataclysm or gigantic change.
i must have underestimated the avalonians.
Sorry guys en girls :o

[Symbolseeker]

My question would be why is there a Gorgon in the center of the Aztec Sun calendar? The answer is buried in Phoenician history, but can be found at: http://whiteknightstudio.blogspot.com/

[goinghome2012]

i disagree, i believe in my opinion the age of 5,200 years ends on Dec 21, 2012, to end all ages, or the Great Age of aprox 26,000 years

if you people think nothing will happen either on that date or close to it, you must be in denial. We are going to immerse into the Dark rift in the Galactic centre, the birth canal which in my mind represents the passing of the void or three days of darkness. In my opinion this event will be significant, more profound than just a consciousness change which is already happening.

The controllers know their game is up and are either preparing for the change or hiding from this change.

Even one of the Mayans elders has stated on a video that the three days of darkness will happen which probably correlates with the passing of the Dark rift on this date.

I have also talked to a shaman from Peru and he states there will be a magnetic pole shift or reversal.

this date is not just a y2k date, it is very significant and if you are not ready spiritually in mind and heart, well heh, there's always next 26,000 years

anyways that is my input, thanks

[lightseeker]

People the Mayan people and calendar has NEVER predicted the end of the world. Do your research folks.

[goinghome2012]

People the Mayan people and calendar has NEVER predicted the end of the world. Do your research folks.

maybe not the end of the world, but the end of the world as we know it

[modwiz]

maybe not the end of the world, but the end of the world as we know it

:note:..........."and I feel fine". :note:

[Andreash94]

Ok this thing with end of world is anoyng, enyone who sutied the mayan calendar kno is not end.......just the biginig. !i hate disinfos

[goinghome2012]

Ok this thing with end of world is anoyng, enyone who sutied the mayan calendar kno is not end.......just the biginig. !i hate disinfos

It is the end, it is the end of this mind controlled economic slave world and the beginning of a new world of Christ consciousness, unconditional love, freedom, and abundance
Say goodbye to this world , whether you like it or not , it is over
Be in denial if you want

[Tane Mahuta]

People the Mayan people and calendar has NEVER predicted the end of the world. Do your research folks.

I too concur...

The Mayans NEVER predicted the end of the World...Hollywood did!!!

The Mayan Calender STOPS at December 2012.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/stops

No mention in there about the end of the world etc!

This is what it means to me(Dec 2012)...

"Going from complete darkness to light of knowing"

TM

Do your research folks

[goinghome2012]

the end of time, the end of the cosmic cycle, the end of the age, the end of the world, wake up

i swear this forum has been taken over by shills and dis-informists, no wonder Bill flew to Ecuador

look around you, economy is finished, weather is strange, more earthquakes, more volcanoes, magnetic poles are changing, the sun is hotter and brighter, marine life and fish are dying in the thousands

underground bases

Norway seed vault

moon orbit is off

Fema camps

the world is over and another will emerge, i don't know how this will manifest, but it is going to be a wild one

peace

[Peace of Mind]

I really don't know why people jumped all into this belief. Today, there are millions of people that speak Mayan languages and even more who are their decendants. None of them say the world will end and they are the ones who should know more about their own calendar. Why do people believe the doom and gloom stories?...especially when they come from people who were never affiliates to the Mayan's. It's baffling to say the least. I'm just glad people are starting to see it for themselves before it forces them to do something out of the ordinary... then regretting it later.

Peace

[goinghome2012]

It's not just the Maya
Hopi prophecy
Inca prophecy of the sixth sun
The bible
The Koran
The buddhists
The Aztecs
And many north American tribes
It will be the end of this world as we know it
What would that mean to you? Think about it!

[Peace of Mind]

The world as I know it? Hmmm….this kind of eludes me because I see my world as being grand (I don’t want that to end). But much of my observation of others is often seen as suffering (poverty, hunger, corruption, greed, deceit, fear, arrogance, false entitlement, disempowerment, procrastination, etc…)….to see any or all of this end would be a truly beautiful site, however my only experiences with any of them is through observation. It is why I question “whose world will end”? “Who will be effected and to what degree”? I guess time will only tell us this…

Peace

[Kendall]

Wouldn't miss it for the world.

[eileenrose]

The world as I know it? Hmmm….this kind of eludes me because I see my world as being grand (I don’t want that to end). But much of my observation of others is often seen as suffering (poverty, hunger, corruption, greed, deceit, fear, arrogance, false entitlement, disempowerment, procrastination, etc…)….to see any or all of this end would be a truly beautiful site, however my only experiences with any of them is through observation. It is why I question “whose world will end”? “Who will be effected and to what degree”? I guess time will only tell us this…

Peace

On a similar bent....just posted Inelia Benz's latest podcast (audio) it is one hour long (on her thread) and she talks a bit about this year and changing frequencies (which I can relate to...but not saying I think like her). Just another angle on it (not saying I completely agree....or even am clear what she is promoting/talking about.....but she gives it a good try....and that I appreciate....)...ie on what is happening right now/this year/end of year.
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