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viking
12th August 2010, 16:39
Here's one guy I can't make out...anyways found this on my travels!!

You decide....:cool:

Watch it to the end ...mmmm!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4Tj-2QxRfw

viking

jackovesk
12th August 2010, 17:26
Here's one guy I can't make out...anyways found this on my travels!!

You decide....:cool:

Watch it to the end ...mmmm!

viking

I am growing tired of those who rubbish Alex Jones.

Ron Paul doesn't rubbish Alex Jones nor does Judge Andrew Napolitano, Rand Paul, Webster Griffin Tarpley, Governor Jesse Ventura, Willie Nelson, Gerald Celente, Paul Craig Roberts, George Noory, Max Keiser, Bob Chapman, Peter Schiff, etc, etc, THE LIST IS ENDLESS.

So what if he might be over exuberent at times, he still gets the TRUTH OUT doesn't he.

On the Jewish issue, I admit he is reluctant to really expose the Corrupt Zionists, but my guess is, he knows if he did he would immediately labelled Anti-Sementic, would be off the air and would wind up with a bullet in the back of his head if he went too far.

Having said that he continually exposes curruption from the Jewish Cabal i.e. Zbrenski, Wolfawitz, Raum Emmanuel, Larry Silverstein, Greenspan, Geitner, Beinanke, basically the lot of them...

I'll say it again he has woken more people up to the TRUTH than any other radio host on the planet! So what's wrong with that!

Arpheus
12th August 2010, 17:32
Alex jones is a fear mongering mentally disturbed,this guy spoke so much rubish all these years he's been on the air,and people still listen to what he has to say we live on some sad times these days heh.

FrankoL
12th August 2010, 17:35
Its indeed a good question! To be honest, I haven't figured it out. He is a quality reporter (in terms of technology), good points, very good presentation...to sum up, a real professional. On the other side when I am listening to him, I have mixed feelings, like he is not 100% with the topic. Like acting.

Dale
12th August 2010, 17:43
On the Jewish issue, I admit he is reluctant to really expose the Corrupt Zionists, but my guess is, he knows if he did he would immediately labelled Anti-Sementic, would be off the air and would wind up with a bullet in the back of his head if he went too far.

I'd say so, as well. I think Alex knows the "limits" on what he can say during his radio show. There's nothing wrong with that. He's doing a great deal to expose some of these crooks from the cabal. I just don't think the man wants to see anything happen to either himself or his family.

Alex Jones is a bit of a hot head who gets carried away during some shows, but he's certainly not a "disinformation agent." Now, do I agree with everything he says? No. I will say that Alex Jones is doing more to change the status quo than people on YouTube that make silly videos calling everyone who disagrees with them some kind of counterintelligence operative.

Fredkc
12th August 2010, 18:02
Alex Jones...Truthseeker or liar?

How come everything HAS to be "Either Or" with people.

Alex Jones has a place in the great scheme of things.
And yeah, he is irritating as hell to listen to (seems to be what it takes for some folk),
and he bangs it like a monkey with a cheap drum IMO.
But within its limits it does work.

He is like the "See Spot run" of social revolution through personal freedom.
I began my personal journey towards seeing what government has become about 25 years ago. By the time I'd even heard of the guy, I found him a bit refreshing because he was at least talking some good subjects. But in the grand scheme of things, "A-Z", AJ is probably very very good at "A-C or D".

Does that make him wrong? Disinfo? No.
It makes him a way-point. And when you reach the end of that line, you go on to others. It's part of learning. Otherwise...

Well, imagine yourself in a college level English course, and you're spending your time criticizing the vocabulary your 2nd grade teacher used in class. Is this productive? Are you learning anything new in doing it?
Give-a-think ;)
Fred

RedeZra
12th August 2010, 18:19
why did Alex Jones loose it when the caller mentioned Benjamin Freedman

is that not interesting and worth a little research

Solphilos
12th August 2010, 18:36
Alex Jones; this guy is the biggest joke in the field, and anyone who is paying attention will find it quite obvious that he is full of ****.

That said however, it matters not what his intentions are, if he is genuine or a paid shill. None of these trivial facts are important in the big picture. Truth is what we are talking about here, and truth is our birthright, as it is the essence of who and what we are. If Alex is a shill, he cannot harm the Truth 'movement', as Truth always finds it's way into the hearts of those who seek it.

For instance, a good friend of mine was first introduced to the grand conspiracy subject through the Alex Jones show some years ago. Before this, he was just an average guy who thought nothing of such ideas. I would attempt to discuss spirituality and the occult with him, and he just would not hear it, as do many others. Alex Jones, through his fear propaganda, grabbed my friends attention, and opened him up to an entire new realm of thinking and research.

In the beginning, this friend of mine was completely wrapped in fear and depression after discovering the nature of the game that being played, but over time his inquiries spread to other areas, and now he is an extremely spiritual guy and we have a closer bond than ever.

I doesn't matter what or who Alex Jones is; the Universe always evolves towards higher order, and it is my sincere belief that even that which is designed to hold us back can be used as a channel for the divine light of Truth. Wasn't the internet originally designed as a function of the military for warfare? Now here it is today, a source of light that is awakening people and raising awareness on a global scale.

Truthseeker512
12th August 2010, 19:01
How is telling ppl the truth fear mongering.

Its up to u how u deal with the information he is giving out.

personally I do not feel fear from his shows, i feel empowered.

Solphilos
12th August 2010, 19:45
How is telling ppl the truth fear mongering.

Its up to u how u deal with the information he is giving out.

personally I do not feel fear from his shows, i feel empowered.

Knowing that the world is f'd up will give you no power, the empowerment comes from within.

As for the fear mongering, yes, you are correct that it is the individuals responsibility how he/she deals with the information.
But, the Alex Jones show goes out of it's way to portray the information in a terrifying manner, with the dark sounding music, his pessimistic language and portrayal of events, and his general persona. The way the info is presented to the average person tends to scare the hell out of them, and leave them feeling hopeless and frightened. But, fear sells, and it is my belief that Alex Jones is a salesman more than a government shill.

pilotsimone
12th August 2010, 19:56
How come everything HAS to be "Either Or" with people.

Alex Jones has a place in the great scheme of things.
And yeah, he is irritating as hell to listen to (seems to be what it takes for some folk),
and he bangs it like a monkey with a cheap drum IMO.
But within its limits it does work.

He is like the "See Spot run" of social revolution through personal freedom.
I began my personal journey towards seeing what government has become about 25 years ago. By the time I'd even heard of the guy, I found him a bit refreshing because he was at least talking some good subjects. But in the grand scheme of things, "A-Z", AJ is probably very very good at "A-C or D".

Does that make him wrong? Disinfo? No.
It makes him a way-point. And when you reach the end of that line, you go on to others. It's part of learning. Otherwise...

Well, imagine yourself in a college level English course, and you're spending your time criticizing the vocabulary your 2nd grade teacher used in class. Is this productive? Are you learning anything new in doing it?
Give-a-think ;)
Fred

Love this post.

Fredkc
12th August 2010, 22:07
aww gawrsh. Ty Simone :)


How is telling ppl the truth fear mongering.
Its up to u how u deal with the information he is giving out.
personally I do not feel fear from his shows, i feel empowered.


TruthSeeker;
Lemme take a shot.
As I said, I think AJ is a way-point. He's the bit of grit in the oyster.
Now what?

IMO, this is where the AJ show comes up short. When it comes to answers, solutions, what to do with what he tells you. And yes, I even think he does this on purpose. No, I am not saying it's a plot. There's now way I'd know, if I wanted to.

But he is operating both an important piece of work, and a "show". And so long as he stays on his side of the fence, he gets to stay. Once he begins any kind of "organizing" campaign, and I mean a serious one, he is open to a whole new kind of trouble.

Especially if he's successful. Once he crosses that line he is open to a whole new kind of mischief by people in authority. They'll use words like Sedition, Inciting a riot, and yes, treason.

Imagine a rally somewhere, and the police are used to break it up. How long before the government press whores, both commercial and civil begin blaming the arrests, injuries and even deaths of poor deluded people on following a "nut" like AJ?
Fear, like beauty is in the eye of the beholder. ;)
So if the limits given above are correct, it explains why AJ "has no answers". But there are conclusions. and so the next piece lies with the listener. If what people take from the show is a very pissed off attitude, an abhorrence of what goes on in the people's name, and a fear of where it leads, "well done AJ!" But...

if it instills in people, or people allow themselves to be satisfied by a simple yearning to tune in day after day, for another episode, another helping, then is it really fear mongering, or "fear hovering" on the part of the listener?


I am a very rabid believer in a deep change in the way my country operates. But I also find myself torn between two fears (must be old age sneakin' up on me).

I can see huge, inevitable changes coming for my country. One financial, the other political. What makes them inevitable is both the determination of whose pushing us in the pit, and the complacency of the people. Neither beast is awakened lightly.

Our current path extended, those who brought us here will lose just as badly as the people.

Yet what I want is a resurrection, not a revolution. What we had worked for the better part of two centuries. A revolution would throw the baby out with the bathwater. And this brings me to the next question;

Who would I trust to seize that situation and restore what did work, without simply beginning the crawl towards slavery all over?

In US politics today, I can think of only one man, maybe two (slim odds, huh).
I am not sure the populace here is educated in the statecraft of freedom to see the way either. I even have days where I'm almost convinced that living through a financial and political collapse may be the only way to assemble enough people to affect the kind of change I think is needed. Even then, a long shot.

Took me years to come to it, and when I look to see whose following, I am not much encouraged. To resurrect the government described by the Constitution, without violence would take a "Gandhi-an effort" the likes of which this planet has never seen (Took a long look in the mirror afore I typed that... don't think it's me).

Anyway... my thinking on AJ. The rest I threw in for free ;)
Fred

morguana
12th August 2010, 22:58
Well said fred :)

Rimbaud
13th August 2010, 01:00
Should I even watch it?..I'm trying not to get into confrontations rather than deliberately seeking them right now..It's all too easy to get into a fight..it's way harder to get out of one!

Rimbaud

=[Post Update]=

Sorry M..posted seconds after you..Love
R

Arpheus
13th August 2010, 03:00
I love your posts fred !:hippie:

Tuza
13th August 2010, 03:12
Should I even watch it?..I'm trying not to get into confrontations rather than deliberately seeking them right now..It's all too easy to get into a fight..it's way harder to get out of one!

Rimbaud

=[Post Update]=

Sorry M..posted seconds after you..Love
R

Rim, if you are already upset about the abuse of children then don't watch Bohemian Grove.

IMHO I am glad Alex infiltrated and filmed the goings on there because it put me in the loop of what does go on in there and I have seen all the different grove youtube vids and I made up my own mind.

Arpheus
13th August 2010, 03:25
Yeah that video is a bit on the heavy side if what they claim is true,and i wouldnt be surprise if the horrors are for real tho...

Bill Ryan
13th August 2010, 04:41
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Truthseeker.

unplugged
13th August 2010, 05:01
Alex Jones is ALEX JONES. He is demonstrably human, prone to anger and plentiful in judgment. He provides insightful interviews, especially when he interviews insightful guests. He is loud, vituperative, mean-spirited and opinionated. He is also thoughtful, reflective, intelligent, and kind.

I like him.

As with all things I remain selective. I choose to include him from time to time among the voices I listen to. There is a good possibility I don't really know the energy that causes people to doubt his sincerity because he comes to me filtered via his guests. if he's interviewing David Ickes I listen to the tapes on youtube. There are other sound minds he has interviewed who provided fantastic information because of Alex' questions and/or conjectures.

Best of all I control the <CLOSE TAB> button on Firefox and can tune him in or tune him out -- as I choose.

Luke
13th August 2010, 07:25
Alex Jones has his uses.
He is often barks at wrong tree, but all in all he does reach people. To play ball further, there are others, including us here.
Remember, it's not a matter of finding one guru/leader/ascended master. Its a matter of spiritual evolving. Different people start at different levels. different "flavoured" messages resonate with them. AJ fills one gaps, and I think he does it well.
And I think that personally he seeks truth too, but every path is different, there is no order in one finds clues.
All in all +1 for truthseeker

OFFTOPIC:


I can see huge, inevitable changes coming for my country. One financial, the other political. What makes them inevitable is both the determination of whose pushing us in the pit, and the complacency of the people. Neither beast is awakened lightly.

Our current path extended, those who brought us here will lose just as badly as the people.

Yet what I want is a resurrection, not a revolution. What we had worked for the better part of two centuries. A revolution would throw the baby out with the bathwater. And this brings me to the next question;

Who would I trust to seize that situation and restore what did work, without simply beginning the crawl towards slavery all over?

Fred, I think this train of thought needs a thread on his own. I see too much "solutions" out there that just replace bad slave driver with "benevolent one". Worse, I see people believing in them, even here.
The trick always is, people are neophobiac. They see current system as the only possible solution. Just as workers in Poland in 1980's did not wanted to throw down communism: they wanted socialism with "human face". I see similar, dangerous, patterns here.
Without being shown that piramidal manner is only possible way for society to work, revolution will boil down to reinstating slavery.

But we are here FOR consciousness change, aren't we?
/OFFTOPIC

RedeZra
13th August 2010, 07:56
Who would I trust to seize that situation and restore what did work, without simply beginning the crawl towards slavery all over?

the best leaders are those that don't wanna lead

so in that respect I have to say God


but I think He will intervene to stop this madness

in fact I'm sure of it

SkepticSoul
13th August 2010, 08:09
God will not intervene lolz haha
Everything that has been said... ultimately it comes to finding ur own truth and changing urself from within, humanity is gonna have to fix the sjit in this world and no God nor beings/entities from other dimension or planet will come and save ur ass.

RedeZra
13th August 2010, 08:28
God will not intervene lolz haha




oh boy you will have to eat your tie like this guy


49wOzZdWWYM

I'll bring the salt


you got one part right - that we have to change for the better

for we get what we deserve

Lily de Cuir
13th August 2010, 08:39
Hello all, I will try again later,

The great Oz firewall/internet filter is playing with me yet again and I am pissed off! There is no doubt they are giving it a test run.

I wrote a very considered piece on Alex Jones and I had interference. It was all lost. This has happened to me several times this week on trying to get news from alternative sources and trying to get my voice heard.

Will come back later. This is crock of ****e. Anyone seen the illegality of the Australian Constitution lately?

If not, look at Levi-Tarot's site and get yourself informed.

Lily

Lily de Cuir
13th August 2010, 09:58
Hello All,

I have not listened to Alex Jones because people that I respect have said he is disinfo, a shill etc. So I decided to listen for myself, and have listened to his daily show every day for the last two months, so I now have my own opinion.

I have to say I consider him a highly informed and well educated informant. Is he crazy and off the wall? Of course he is. But don't shoot the messenger. He has tripled his audience in two years. You can't argue with that. He is getting the message out. Is it a perfect message? No. Does it get the basic message out that wakes up people? Yes!

Wacky as he is, I believe he is genuine.

Lily

Lily de Cuir
13th August 2010, 10:35
Hello Everyone,

I am new here, so please excuse me but I don't know how to post a new thread.

Mods, please feel free to put it where it should be.

I am talking about Australia, Canada, New Zealand not having a legal constitution. This is really urgent and important.

This is explosive stuff. Someone somewhere has to pick this up....please, responsible journalists, please take note!
It turns history on its head:

http://www.henrymakow.com/oz_new_zealand_canadian_consti.html

or try:

http://www.levi-tarot.co.uk/nwo-interference-html

I hope I've got these websites right, if not, you are smart enough to find them yourself.

It's been really slow to get this up. I'm going to send this quick now whileI can.

Kind regards to all,
Lily

jackovesk
13th August 2010, 15:10
Hello All,

I have not listened to Alex Jones because people that I respect have said he is disinfo, a shill etc. So I decided to listen for myself, and have listened to his daily show every day for the last two months, so I now have my own opinion.

I have to say I consider him a highly informed and well educated informant. Is he crazy and off the wall? Of course he is. But don't shoot the messenger. He has tripled his audience in two years. You can't argue with that. He is getting the message out. Is it a perfect message? No. Does it get the basic message out that wakes up people? Yes!

Wacky as he is, I believe he is genuine.

Lily

Well said Lily and WELCOME to the Forum. You must feel empowed after allowing yourself the freedom of making up your own mind on Alex Jones instead of heresay coming from friends.

Sarahmay
13th August 2010, 17:14
Truthseeker?

Probably...but he has the most annoying voice I've ever heard and he is a terrible interviewer.

norman
13th August 2010, 18:29
As I was starting to come out a very hefty bout of depression a while ago I re-discovered Alex Jones and got a big lift from the fsact that there is someone out there fighting the fight and having an abundace of spirit and passion. He's firmly in the camp of "If you wait until you can do it perfectly, you'll never do anything at all".

I sometimes chuckle at his coments about " little green men" and "space aliens" but I understand why he keeps well away from the greased slopes that I and others vanished off down.

I wish Alex all the grace in the world and hope he's still quite young and alert when his time comes to have to let go again before he turns into an 'Emperor' himself. When I think about all those people who work there with him, I do sometimes wonder what sort of boss he is for them.

Alex is as genuine as any middle class 'family capitalist' American can be. His sense of his ancestors having WON the first American revolution is so refreshing and energising for little me here in the Queens cabbage patch.

You GO Alex, show-em.................

RedeZra
13th August 2010, 23:37
Alex Jones is a broadcast brawler because his buddies own America


the late Bill Cooper exposed all these frocks and frauds which still keep pestering the facts with fiction



I've come to the conclusion that most people don't wanna Get it - perhaps God really has sent them a strong Delusion or it's a case of too much fluoride

norman
14th August 2010, 00:10
Alex Jones is a broadcast brawler because his buddies own America


the late Bill Cooper exposed all these frocks and frauds which still keep pestering the facts with fiction



I've come to the conclusion that most people don't wanna Get it - perhaps God really has sent them a strong Delusion or it's a case of too much fluoride

Does that opinion of yours contain much experience or are you chukin' up?.....

Please explain what you mean by "his buddies own America".

As I understand his position, "Americans" own America, that's why they drove off the English tyranny. The constitution ensures that no 'cuckoo' governement can ever subvert that. All Alex is doing is shouting at the top of his lungs that a cuckoo has re invaded the political and economic structure of the land.

If you don't understand what I mean by "cuckoo", try an online encyclopeidia ( or simpler still: they don't build their own nests, they sneak into other birds nests and chuck out an egg and replace it with their own and let the other hen feed and nurture it! )

Alex doesn't stand for that, and I agree with and salute him for seeing the "executive" like it really is.

Every little American nest that keeps out the cuckoo and raises a full brood of it's own young is good news to me and good news to Alex.

At least he's got the guts to shout "FIRE!" in the 'cinema'.

Steven
14th August 2010, 00:59
Hello Everyone,

I am new here, so please excuse me but I don't know how to post a new thread.

Mods, please feel free to put it where it should be.

I am talking about Australia, Canada, New Zealand not having a legal constitution. This is really urgent and important.

This is explosive stuff. Someone somewhere has to pick this up....please, responsible journalists, please take note!
It turns history on its head:

http://www.henrymakow.com/oz_new_zealand_canadian_consti.html

or try:

http://www.levi-tarot.co.uk/nwo-interference-html

I hope I've got these websites right, if not, you are smart enough to find them yourself.

It's been really slow to get this up. I'm going to send this quick now whileI can.

Kind regards to all,
Lily

Hi Lily and welcome,

To make a new thread, you must first choose a forum section, so you go to forum, then choose general (for your case), once in the general section, you will see a "post a new thread button at upper left screen. Select it then you will be able to choose a title to your thread and create it.

Namaste, Steven

RedeZra
14th August 2010, 01:43
Does that opinion of yours contain much experience or are you chukin' up?.....

Please explain what you mean by "his buddies own America".

As I understand his position, "Americans" own America, that's why they drove off the English tyranny. The constitution ensures that no 'cuckoo' governement can ever subvert that. All Alex is doing is shouting at the top of his lungs that a cuckoo has re invaded the political and economic structure of the land.



good analogy about the cuckoo which wrestles the nest from those that built it


America is an amalgam of nations from all over the world

one of these nations - the cuckoo - did not really have a land of it's own - even so it is a nation with it's own religion

alienated for not assimilating into host nations - the cuckoo has a history of being kicked around Europe for buying property with paper


by sheer persistence the cuckoo persevered and bought up nations with the lands own God given trees


kinda hard to believe and how long will it go on - as long as there are fluoride


Alex calls the cuckoo with many names but he never names it - in fact he hurls insults and threats upon those that name the cuckoo with it's right name




cuckoo zion cuckoo zion cuckoo

norman
14th August 2010, 02:13
.....by sheer persistence the cuckoo persevered and bought up nations with the lands own God given trees


kinda hard to believe and how long will it go on - as long as there are fluoride


Alex calls the cuckoo with many names but he never names it - in fact he hurls insults and threats upon those that name the cuckoo with it's right name





Ok the cuckoo analogy fits those a little too well. As you are pointing your finger in the direction of specific racial identities I think I ought to bring in the Arian Super Race/NAZI bunch also. How do you equate that nasty counterpoint with your "view"?

Tuza
14th August 2010, 02:20
I cannot see where Alex is actually lying about anything; he brought a few things to light for me which then led me to research of my own which confirmed it all. Continue with the debate but we need someone like him and I am sending him love, light and protection. Go forth and keep on giving them grief Alex.

RedeZra
14th August 2010, 02:27
Ok the cuckoo analogy fits those a little too well. As you are pointing your finger in the direction of specific racial identities I think I ought to bring in the Arian Super Race/NAZI bunch also. How do you equate that nasty counterpoint with your "view"?

the cuckoo wrote the history of the Nazi so that story is faulty and flawed

it's not racial but religious - for the cuckoo is no more a Jew than an Eskimo


Christ criticized the religion wich the cuckoo converted to


do yourself a favor and look into Benjamin Freedman and Jack Otto




I cannot see where Alex is actually lying about anything; he brought a few things to light for me which then led me to research of my own which confirmed it all.

Alex has much inside information for he is on the inside - so in that respect expect much truths to come from him - but do not regard him as the only expert and guiding light for he is a shill of zion - as so many in many movements - the pay is real good in fact unlimited

Rimbaud
14th August 2010, 23:15
Rim, if you are already upset about the abuse of children then don't watch Bohemian Grove.

IMHO I am glad Alex infiltrated and filmed the goings on there because it put me in the loop of what does go on in there and I have seen all the different grove youtube vids and I made up my own mind.

Tuza...Thanks for your sound advice I thankyou very much for your warning...I know that abuse is rife these days. There's a group of South African Women right now who are dealing with the most awful abuse of Children..some only several months old..boys or girls..it doesn't matter...they're called "...something bears"...I'll look into it and report back.

You're a wonderful insightful person Tuza...Bless you my love.

Rimbaud

viking
13th October 2010, 13:56
Just found this ... *shrugs*


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKxxeA6eGrU

viking

Etherios
13th October 2010, 14:34
ofc these are cut and paste and they dont show that he is being sarcastic .... and trying to mimic the NWO goons... but slaves need to attack anyone that tell them the truth ...

I really hope ppl here take the time and listen 1 or 2 shows of AJ... then make up your minds. Yes he is trying to scare ppl but sheep's (yes most are sheep's) need someone to remind them they are being slaughtered and poisoned and hurt ... this life isnt what it should be.

Something last ... it doesnt let me post a comment ... all the comments are agreeing with the video ... coincidence RIGHT?

MzVaFf
13th October 2010, 14:36
Alex Jones was one of the first that I have encountered from my best friend years ago. When I started being a truth seeker.
IMHO I take him like a grain of salt for the fact that he is on TV with Jesse Ventura, That's Just me tho.
But I keep in the back of my mind things are hidden In plain sight from the people..
I don't know how I would address this... I really don't know what to think or say :(

MargueriteBee
13th October 2010, 14:39
I say yea for AJ his stuff is shocking and that was good for me to wake up. He certainly does good.

viking
13th October 2010, 14:39
Something last ... it doesnt let me post a comment ... all the comments are agreeing with the video ... coincidence RIGHT?

Hmmmm weird seems ok with me ...just posted!!

viking

shadowstalker
13th October 2010, 23:11
Alex jones is a fear mongering mentally disturbed,this guy spoke so much rubish all these years he's been on the air,and people still listen to what he has to say we live on some sad times these days heh.

Amazing tho' he had confirmed quite a lot of things for the past few yrs,
Especially the shots, Childhood/Flu, issues the NWO and the like,


And yet again shall I say that one of the reasons why folks thinks he is a flake is because he WILL NOT LET ANYONE FORGET what kind of world they really live in.

Most folks CAN NOT AND WILL NOT DEAL with the sick truth of what has been going on for yrs.

They don't want to know that the vote is fixed.
They don't want to know that childhood shots and flu shots are designed to kill.
They don't want to know that all presidents or most are puppets.
They don't want to hear that the education system is designed to de-educate.
Just to name a few things.

Etherios
13th October 2010, 23:44
Amazing tho' he had confirmed quite a lot of things for the past few yrs,
Especially the shots, Childhood/Flu, issues the NWO and the like,


And yet again shall I say that one of the reasons why folks thinks he is a flake is because he WILL NOT LET ANYONE FORGET what kind of world they really live in.

Most folks CAN NOT AND WILL NOT DEAL with the sick truth of what has been going on for yrs.

They don't want to know that the vote is fixed.
They don't want to know that childhood shots and flu shots are designed to kill.
They don't want to know that all presidents or most are puppets.
They don't want to hear that the education system is designed to de-educate.
Just to name a few things.


Just something i read in these forums... the human mind when it cant accept something takes the best possible outcome THUS AJ is a fake :-P (might be Icke that said that)

So its easier "safer" to point fingers and cut/paste what you want from 3-4 hour prodcasts ... than get any kind of fact... IF they try to debunk him with fact they will find soooo many info on what he is saying they will just go and hide...

Preston
14th October 2010, 02:38
I discovered Alex Jones via a co-worker. Working for the Government has opened my eyes to a lot. At a point, a turning point I guess you could say, I started to research things for myself. What I discovered was indeed shocking, scary, and depressing. All that I had worked for, and my father had worked for, was turning out to be a lie. Alex Jones only confirmed what I had already found in a lot of cases. So for me, my co-worker, and family, he is someone trying to make a change. Those of you who listen to him or have listened to him know that he says nearly every show, "Research what I have told you, see for yourself. Don't take my word for it". He doesn't, by our estimation, want 'sheep'. He wants informed peoples who can, when the time is right, know their Reality from the Reality their governments are trying to show them, and then stand up for their Liberties and Human Beings. This is my view, our view.

AtlasFactor
14th October 2010, 05:28
If he were an agent for dark, one of his purposes would be to cause division among people in places like this. In which case the issue of his legitimacy or otherwise would be best ignored. My 2c.

NoTingles
19th December 2010, 03:18
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dddanieljjjamesss
19th December 2010, 03:28
egomaniac either way, beware beware

BrianEn
19th December 2010, 04:00
He behaves himself when he's on Coast Coast. He doesn't start yelling at the NWO or anything. It's just calm talk.

truthseekerdan
19th December 2010, 05:29
Every one of us is different (unique), but we must accept each other in love the way we are -- that includes Alex Jones too, and YES he is a Truth Seeker. :)

irishspirit
19th December 2010, 09:05
The facts are simple. Alex Jones does give out somewhat good info, even if it is not told the way it should be. However, to accept the word of one man without first conducting ones own research shows a lazy attitude and an inability to discover what is really going on.

I accept nothing at face value and do not trust the word of one man. Yes, Alex will give you the news as told by the mainstream, and back it up with other mainstream sources. However, Alex shows his disrespect towards others seeking a different truth, with his inability to discuss it. Whereas, go to the Intel Hub, and they will discuss everything going on around you and more. From Aliens to Underground Bases, Spiritual to metaphysics, no subject left untouched.

So, one man will give you limited information, whilst another will give you a bigger picture. However, not everyone can connect all the dots and it falls to you, the researcher, to connect and find the dots.

irishspirit
19th December 2010, 10:31
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7nLMFHQw8g&feature=player_embedded

Fred Steeves
19th December 2010, 19:04
Alex was instrumental in my awakening a couple of years ago, along with David Icke at the same time, when I first sat forward on the couch and wondered " what the f*** is going on around here?" ( What a trip that period of time was)His documentary The Obama Deception lays things out brilliantly. Yes, his antics did freak me out at first, I was ready for a shootout when they come to take us away. It even almost cost me my marriage he got me so jacked up, but now I blame information shock, and overload, not him.

It cracks me up now when he loses it and goes raging off the reservation. Maybe it is a schtick, just like how Ventura is on his t.v. show, but he can be funny. However, I can't think of any info. from him that I've cross checked that winds up being dubious, which I do often. The guests he has on are priceless: Paul, Celente, Napolitano, etc. I've gotten quite the alternative education from these people, and am grateful for being exposed to them. Same with interviews on Camelot and Avalon.

One thing that does strike me often with A.J., besides only being in his mid 30's, I think he has some spiritual maturing to do. Too dependant on the Bible. IMO that's his big blinder. Then again, we all have those blinders to one degree or another, no?

Bottom line. TRUTH SEEKER.

Cheers,
Fred S.

Limor Wolf
19th December 2010, 20:55
Alex jons is simply sending a message to "them".
he speaks in their own language and radiates the:'you can't touch me,i dont give a damn about you' he could therefore easilly look them in the eyes,like when he famously exposed this Bilderberg member to some unconvenient questions,not one minute lowering his gaze from the man's face..
are we the only ones who needs to be in day to day inconveniences and respond with 'love and light' instead of assertivness?(beaware,not in vengeance,assertiveness) i dont think so.he has done some important movies to wake people up,millions and millions of people have been exposed to them (Endgame to name but one)
he is co-operating with others,he spends 100% of his time doing,thinking,fighting,waking people-up etc....who wouldnt be full of anger when indulging in this 24/7?? i remember being very angry when piece after piece of a very different world picture been exposed to me.not frightened,angered on the lies that our lifes are made with,and even if by our nature we allowed some of this...still we've been prevented many tools and knowledge so we might have choose differently.
i am not angered today and i stay away from those kind of energies,thats part of the reason i dont usually listen to alex jones.alex jones is full of anger.but by god he has every reason to.
we all have! we have been robbed by our true reality and potential by a few people who serves a higher agenda and have not one drop of empathy in their blood.the question is what do we do with this anger feeling (no,repression is not the answer),how do we implement it to the best result...can we finally learn to demand our freedom?
personally,i do not and i will not condemn Alex Jons,and i,like others dont think he is disinformator,my god what do we have our extra sensses for :) yes,he reacts in aggression he gets more than carried away,but he actually do something and i am not.i only write through the computure and try to make some affect on my near surrounding.he is making millions of people think.who am i to criticize him?

Ahkenaten
19th December 2010, 21:24
why did Alex Jones loose it when the caller mentioned Benjamin Freedman

is that not interesting and worth a little research


All you need to do is run a websearch on the name Benjamin Freedman to see what ticked Alex Jones off. The question is why did the mere mention of that name piss him off SO MUCH?! Obviously Alex Jones is quite versed in subject matter associated with that name and the subject matter apparently is very very upsetting to him, why else such an immediate, visceral reaction? This is what is interesting here. Why would the mere mention of this name be hitting such a hot button for Alex Jones? I won't pretend to know the answer to that question, but it is a very interesting reaction, and CLEARLY disproportionate to the mere mention of someone's name - unless Alex Jones had been conditioned to believe that that name in and of itself was so reprehensible that such an outburst was involuntary on his part, revealing his extremely strong negative feelings about the name and associated subject matter. Just a thought.

onawah
19th December 2010, 22:07
Bill Ryan in his recent interview on net radio show said that his insider informer told him TPTB are not at all happy with Alex Jones; he is a "troublemaker" in their book. Bill is high on their list as well, which he considers to be a compliment, so I think we must assume the same is true for AJ.

Ahkenaten
19th December 2010, 22:24
Onawah if TPTB were that pissed off at ANYONE they would not be on the air.........................and their income streams would be truncated with prejudice. With all due respect to Bill - it does not logically follow that Alex Jones is on TPTB's S**T list, or for that matter that Bill is too, and thus by extension we should trust Alex Jones because we like and trust Bill..........we must presume that alternate media platforms are allowed to transmit information only because 1.) the information, transmitters and followers are not deemed to be a threat 2.) the information, transmitters and followers may be manipulated in ways to the advantage of TPTB and so are allowed to continue even though somewhat irritating the benefits outweighing the negatives 3.) combinations of these two and/or unknown other factors. Just a small point but important nonetheless.

onawah
20th December 2010, 00:44
Onawah if TPTB were that pissed off at ANYONE they would not be on the air.........................and their income streams would be truncated with prejudice. With all due respect to Bill - it does not logically follow that Alex Jones is on TPTB's S**T list, or for that matter that Bill is too, and thus by extension we should trust Alex Jones because we like and trust Bill..........we must presume that alternate media platforms are allowed to transmit information only because 1.) the information, transmitters and followers are not deemed to be a threat 2.) the information, transmitters and followers may be manipulated in ways to the advantage of TPTB and so are allowed to continue even though somewhat irritating the benefits outweighing the negatives 3.) combinations of these two and/or unknown other factors. Just a small point but important nonetheless.


Speculation is the name of the game...

Etherios
20th December 2010, 01:11
Onawah if TPTB were that pissed off at ANYONE they would not be on the air.........................and their income streams would be truncated with prejudice. With all due respect to Bill - it does not logically follow that Alex Jones is on TPTB's S**T list, or for that matter that Bill is too, and thus by extension we should trust Alex Jones because we like and trust Bill..........we must presume that alternate media platforms are allowed to transmit information only because 1.) the information, transmitters and followers are not deemed to be a threat 2.) the information, transmitters and followers may be manipulated in ways to the advantage of TPTB and so are allowed to continue even though somewhat irritating the benefits outweighing the negatives 3.) combinations of these two and/or unknown other factors. Just a small point but important nonetheless.

You see how wrong your thinking is? Who said to trust AJ? the topic isnt talking about trust ... is he trying to find the truth or is he a liar and manipulate us?

Dont trust anyone ... AJ has the connections and the will to find topics and make them public its our responsibility to search on each topic and decide if he is honest or not. Dont judge the person .. we shouldnt care about who he is or what he does in his private life. The info that he is "exposing" is (sadly) true on the most parts. Do you really care if TPTB have him of their bad lists or if they are paying him? Can the devil come and post topics for us to search about? i would love it and will thank him EVEN if (he is the devil) his aim is to manipulate and distract us.

PPL are waking up because of his info not because of him. PPL are finding out that their lives are all a farse and that we are living in an invisible matrix or control. I dont care who helps us wake up as long as its us that decide how to proceed. Neo(matrix) was the one that made the decision to take the red pill it wasnt morpheas that made him swollow it.

Anyway ill stop now sorry for the outburst...

truthseekerdan
20th December 2010, 01:34
One thing that does strike me often with A.J., besides only being in his mid 30's, I think he has some spiritual maturing to do. Too dependant on the Bible. IMO that's his big blinder. Then again, we all have those blinders to one degree or another, no?

Bottom line. TRUTH SEEKER.

Cheers,
Fred S.

I definitely agree with you Fred however, even though he may need to progress spiritually, at this point in his 'life' he's probably more effective the way he's conducting himself for the ones that are not awakened. Once one awakens, then the next step is usually spiritual progression -- depends on the individual -- IT happened to me though...;)

Blessings ~ :love: ~ Dan

Ahkenaten
20th December 2010, 02:41
You see how wrong your thinking is? Who said to trust AJ? the topic isnt talking about trust ... is he trying to find the truth or is he a liar and manipulate us?

Dont trust anyone ... AJ has the connections and the will to find topics and make them public its our responsibility to search on each topic and decide if he is honest or not. Dont judge the person .. we shouldnt care about who he is or what he does in his private life. The info that he is "exposing" is (sadly) true on the most parts. Do you really care if TPTB have him of their bad lists or if they are paying him? Can the devil come and post topics for us to search about? i would love it and will thank him EVEN if (he is the devil) his aim is to manipulate and distract us.

PPL are waking up because of his info not because of him. PPL are finding out that their lives are all a farse and that we are living in an invisible matrix or control. I dont care who helps us wake up as long as its us that decide how to proceed. Neo(matrix) was the one that made the decision to take the red pill it wasnt morpheas that made him swollow it.

Anyway ill stop now sorry for the outburst...

Etherios I have no idea what you are getting so lathered up about - I never attacked Alex Jones here. I simply was saying that it was a little unusual how upset he got over the mention of one person's name..............without speculating EXACTLY why that was. My personal feeling (though I didn't express it earlier) is that perhaps he was reacting angrily to an attempt to entrap or ensnare him in some way in a topic that could be used to discredit him. As for the other statements I made they were very general and only had to do with tracking a train of logic and were not of a critical nature directed towards anyone. I have no idea why you would be getting so upset. It seems odd to me.................

Etherios
20th December 2010, 02:59
i am sorry i never wanted to come out this way :-(

Ahkenaten
20th December 2010, 03:49
No need to apologize Etherios..............I just wanted to make sure you understand I do not mean to attack Alex Jones. I think when it comes to the truth or non-truthfulness of Alex Jones, his motivations, etc. it is up to each person to go based on their gut assessment of him. I used to be more skeptical than I am now and now am personally leaning towards feeling that in his heart, he feels that he is doing the right thing for all of our sake. But who knows? I could be wrong about that, but that is where I am coming down on it now. :cool:

Fred Steeves
20th December 2010, 11:44
A quick thought on AJ's colorful tirade with the guy on the phone. It occured to me that the two may have some history. Alex didn't start going off until the guy mentions his website, which is after mentioning the two names. AJ also describes the guy physically. Who knows what may have transpired beyween the two at some event. Maybe the caller likes to talk about peoples families if someone disagrees with him. Dunno.

Alex does need to loosen up a bit, but if I did live radio 3 hours a day, every day for years, there would be more then a few embarrassing you-tube clips floating around out there. I can just imagine the shady ties to the powers that be I'd aquire as a result.

Happy day all!

Cheers,
Fred S.

onawah
21st December 2010, 16:50
Originally Posted by Ahkenaten View Post
"Onawah if TPTB were that pissed off at ANYONE they would not be on the air.........................and their income streams would be truncated with prejudice. With all due respect to Bill - it does not logically follow that Alex Jones is on TPTB's S**T list, or for that matter that Bill is too, and thus by extension we should trust Alex Jones because we like and trust Bill.........."

Bill's informer's point was that Alex is now reaching the point where he is becoming too much of an irritant. Presumably he was irritating to them before, but has now crossed the line.
I wasn't saying that we should trust Alex because we like and trust Bill. But if Bill's informer friend is correct, then whistleblowers may be in for a very rough ride. Some seem to think they (TPTB) are becoming increasingly desperate and reckless.
Critical mass has to come at some point.
I did not mean to imply that Bill's informer is necessarily correct either--Bill admits that he doesn't know that himself. It's just more food for speculation...

Bill Ryan
21st December 2010, 17:00
Onawah if TPTB were that pissed off at ANYONE they would not be on the air.........................and their income streams would be truncated with prejudice. With all due respect to Bill - it does not logically follow that Alex Jones is on TPTB's S**T list, or for that matter that Bill is too, and thus by extension we should trust Alex Jones because we like and trust Bill..........

Bill's informer's point was that Alex is now reaching the point where he is becoming too much of an irritant. Presumably he was irritating to them before, but has now crossed the line.
I wasn't saying that we should trust Alex because we like and trust Bill. But if Bill's informer friend is correct, then whistleblowers may be in for a very rough ride. Some seem to think they (TPTB) are becoming increasingly desperate and reckless.
Critical mass has to come at some point.
I did not mean to imply that Bill's informer is necessarily correct either--Bill admits that he doesn't know that himself. It's just more food for speculation...

All correct. But it's not necessarily true that "if TPTB were that pissed off at ANYONE they would not be on the air".

As my contact told me, There are many ways to skin a cat - many of them, he assured me, totally legal and above board.

Some problems are turned into assets by planting disinformation... others are discredited by planting false stories which are then exposed as such and therefore discredit the presenter.

I'm given to understand that there's quite a long menu of ways to handle people who are considered 'irritants'.

It's much easier to get someone running as fast as they can in the wrong direction... than try to stop them running at all.

Ahkenaten
21st December 2010, 17:37
So right Bill about using people and information as long as one possibly can - termination would definitely raise a lot of eyebrows and redirect attention to the all-seeing eye at the top of the pyramid, a place that enjoys being the WATCHER but does not, in turn, like being observed closely!! But don't you agree that there are definite lines of engagement and that once one crosses a certain line - they truly run the risk of being terminated? I think the scope of the sphere of influence a person exerts has something to do with the metrics ----- TPTB clearly are literally breathless with anxiety now, the control paradigm is showing serious signs of slippage all the way around. In that environment - where for once THEY are afraid and on the defensive - they can be very dangerous indeed. Anyone ANYONE who insists on telling the truth in this environment is at risk.

grannyfranny100
21st December 2010, 17:51
Hi

I am not somebody that enjoy sports programs, TV episodes, loud car stereo music but many people do. They seem to require a "crank it up a notch" approach and Alex has that approach. He reaches an element of people that would never wake up otherwise. Meanwhile he does not incite people to violent rioting and hateful killing. I think that is an extremely difficult combination and he does it well with truth seeking information.

Granny Franny

Ahkenaten
21st December 2010, 17:55
He sounds like the alternative news media mirror to Rush Limbaugh to me....................which brings me back to the endlessly interesting subject of the Hegelian Dialectical paradigm and spin. That is why I joke about Alex Jones really needing to have a laryngectomy (voicebox transplant) it would be so much easier to listen to without that grating sound, but this is why on a certain level I mistrust Alex Jones............he seems like the alternative media side of the Panopticon spin machine.

norman
21st December 2010, 18:00
----- TPTB clearly are literally breathless with anxiety now, the control paradigm is showing serious signs of slippage all the way around. In that environment - where for once THEY are afraid and on the defensive - they can be very dangerous indeed. Anyone ANYONE who insists on telling the truth in this environment is at risk.



A frightened animal is a dangerous animal, yes, and I'm sure they are quite nervous right now but not so much because all is going wrong for them. They seem to have arrived at the point where they have to conduct a controlled demolition. Most of what we see as things falling apart at the 'top' isn't really falling apart at the top. The national governments are falling apart but that is surely intentional. They are blowing up everything just like they destroyed the WTC. The trick is to get everything to fall exactly where they want it to land. That's why they are a bit nervous.

From an observer's point of view we have to distinguish between the older structural key points and the newer (nwo) structural key points. They hope we will be so excited to see old authorities getting kicked in the teeth ( i.e. Wikileakes etc ) that we won't be too discerning in our understanding of the conjuring that they are embarked upon.

The balancing act we have to be involved in, somehow, is the balance between everything falling just as they want it to fall and of everything falling just as we want it to fall, BUT, fall everything will, because they have already committed to that part by now. Their new "Phoenix" from the ashes might still get strangled before it rises if we are not fooled too long by the yob-mod variety of 'truth' and information revolution.

Ahkenaten
21st December 2010, 18:09
Norman so right - I call it the SAMSON EFFECT. Now they are plotting pulling the very columns of the temple down around them. Problem is that Samson himself - prescience and long hair and all - killed himself when he took these serious measures!!! That is the paradox - the kind of devastating action they think they MUST take at this juncture is bound to cause them irreparable harm.............there are NO GUARANTEES whatsoever, even with elaborate underground cities, vertically and horizontally integrated police state infrastructure, that THEY WILL PREVAIL AND COME OUT ON TOP! TPTB are terrified, which is good news for us because it shows us that they are vulnerable. Of course as you say, anything that is severely frightened, especially if they think their very survival is at issue, is very dangerous! The converse goes for the masses of humanity that are WAKING UP to the fact that our very survival is at issue as well.................

Again the metaphor of the elephant being absolutely stone-cold terrified of the army ants on the floor of the jungle is appropriate. I think we need to keep calm, peaceful and clear-eyed, avoid fear and strident rhetoric, and THIS TOO SHALL PASS.

Their days are numbered. History has judged them, and they will be soon amongst all the other ancient relics and shards of pottery in the dust.

Etherios
22nd December 2010, 04:21
Their days are numbered. History has judged them, and they will be soon amongst all the other ancient relics and shards of pottery in the dust.

I wish ppl claiming these things would elaborate. I still dont see anything more than maybe a few "cracks" or program "errors" in their plans. Greece-Ireland are already bought and are no longer valid countries. The euro and the dollar is going deeper and deeper in the black hole they made.

Just because we think some plans they had failed that doesnt mean its because we won. As time passes new "better" or "modified" plans emerge they are not static they keep addapting. They are the ones that guide this planet so they know whats up next alot sooner than us.

We can "win" a speculation and think they are loosing. We are winning the speculations.

eric charles
22nd December 2010, 04:32
I personlly think Alex tells half truths , he keeps blabbering over and over that basically the WHOLE entire conspiracy is centere around OFFSHORE banks wich is clearly not the case . It a cosmic thing , the answer is in the univers itself .

The way he dismisses his own guests and people who even somewhat disagree with him is ASSININE in every sense of the word !!

To me he is a controlled half truth teller , he does his show for BUSINESS purposes , as you can see on his websites with all the flashing adds and gizzmos .

Its not really my place to tell but , to get a general start on getting nformed on the BASIC subjects of the WHOLE global conspiracy i would say to a NEWCOMER to go read the material on his his sites , BUT not listen to his radio show , as his site has numerous somehwta half decent , and some very decent credible journalists with immense knowledge and experience , but Alex himself i find him too much of a FEAR based personlity ohhh its the bankers its the bankers .............

3optic
22nd December 2010, 04:59
I personlly think Alex tells half truths , he keeps blabbering over and over that basically the WHOLE entire conspiracy is centere around OFFSHORE banks wich is clearly not the case . It a cosmic thing , the answer is in the univers itself .

The way he dismisses his own guests and people who even somewhat disagree with him is ASSININE in every sense of the word !!

To me he is a controlled half truth teller , he does his show for BUSINESS purposes , as you can see on his websites with all the flashing adds and gizzmos .

Its not really my place to tell but , to get a general start on getting nformed on the BASIC subjects of the WHOLE global conspiracy i would say to a NEWCOMER to go read the material on his his sites , BUT not listen to his radio show , as his site has numerous somehwta half decent , and some very decent credible journalists with immense knowledge and experience , but Alex himself i find him too much of a FEAR based personlity ohhh its the bankers its the bankers .............

I agree with the recommendation for newcomers. His incessant fear and hysteria get on my nerves. However, the offshore banker conspiracy carries some credibility. He's certainly not the only one claiming it. I do believe the rabbit hole goes much deeper and in many more directions however..

Fred Steeves
22nd December 2010, 16:28
True AJ doesn't get much into the universal, spiritual aspect of the whole deal, he mainly keeps it in the 5 sense reality. Except for the Bible. People like David Icke, those that Bill and Kerry interview, are MUCH better on the big picture. I don't think it's intentional on Alex's part, that's just as far as he's prepared to take it. Personally, once I discovered the wascly wabbit hole, I vowed to take it all the way, where ever it lead. To each their own. AJ is a great news source for what the rascals are up to day to day, how they think, history, stuff like that. If you want to hear about the Anunnaki, time travel, or why the moon may be an artificial construct, go elsewhere. That's not his cup of tea.

Cheers,
Fred S.

Bill Ryan
22nd December 2010, 21:16
True AJ doesn't get much into the universal, spiritual aspect of the whole deal, he mainly keeps it in the 5 sense reality.

[snip]

I don't think it's intentional on Alex's part, that's just as far as he's prepared to take it.

[snip]

AJ is a great news source for what the rascals are up to day to day, how they think, history, stuff like that. If you want to hear about the Anunnaki, time travel, or why the moon may be an artificial construct, go elsewhere. That's not his cup of tea.


Good summary - I agree. I think AJ is very valuable and does a great job.

For the wild stuff (which may be equally true and just as important to understand), go to another aisle in the alternative media supermarket.

Lily de Cuir
26th December 2010, 11:14
Hello Everyone,

In defence of Alex Jones, I like him. Listen to him daily. He is frequently embarrassing for my taste, but often extremely funny as well. He is highly intelligent, has an extraordinary grasp and insight into our history on this planet and his brain works at lightening speed.

Like all of us he is also very human, pugnacious perhaps but very passionate about his mission. I believe he is genuine and the real deal. Wouldn't have him any other way, warts and all.

You must remember his radio show is a commercial enterprise supported by his listeners. Much like this website/forum is. He also wants to reach as many 'ordinary' people as possible to spread the message of the NWO. I personally believe that he does investigate alternative views such as we do here, but to travel down that avenue on his radio show is not an option if he is to retain his 'credibility' and maintain his current listener base. Sad but true, that's the reality of things.

To those who complain about his voice or his manner - forget those trivial details. Listen to the message. He is a treasure trove of information!

He's a smart dude and deserves kudos where it's due. Who can put their hand up here in this forum and say they are reaching the number of people AJ does every day?

Cheers,
Lily

Bill Ryan
28th December 2010, 14:53
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Truthseeker.

Dear Friends: listen to this - whatever you do. At about 2:45 of this 7 minute clip, Alex starts to come apart.

This is from his show yesterday, 27 December 2010.

http://projectavalon.net/Alex_Jones_has_been_praying_27_December_2010.mp3

irishspirit
28th December 2010, 15:07
Hey Bill,

Thanks for posting this link.

However, I have seen Alex Jones at this on many occasions over many simple issues. He seems to get upset and loss control quite easily now a days.

However, with that said, I do appreciate the sentiment behind his statement.

I am always open to the truth, regardless of which corner it comes from.

Cate
28th December 2010, 23:55
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Ahkenaten
29th December 2010, 01:11
I wish ppl claiming these things would elaborate. I still dont see anything more than maybe a few "cracks" or program "errors" in their plans. Greece-Ireland are already bought and are no longer valid countries. The euro and the dollar is going deeper and deeper in the black hole they made.

Just because we think some plans they had failed that doesnt mean its because we won. As time passes new "better" or "modified" plans emerge they are not static they keep addapting. They are the ones that guide this planet so they know whats up next alot sooner than us.

We can "win" a speculation and think they are loosing. We are winning the speculations.

Yup - very practical observations. I DO think that clearly they are in somewhat of a panic................the animal in me smells blood in the water. People don't take extreme action unless they are afraid/under extreme pressure. That is why I suspect the old paradigm is falling, or at least in danger of falling.

Fred Steeves
30th December 2010, 14:18
I can relate to Alex's story of having tears running down his eyes while driving and contemplating the enormity of this whole mess. It happens to me every day at some point or another. But it's two fold. The tears are also because of contemplating at the same time what a priviledge it is to have awakened out of the trance and be a part of the truth and goodness that is crackling more and more through the aether. There is no physical force that can stop them, but of this they are scared out of their wits.

I too have learned to not harbor the fear, as they feed on this. Whenever I'm laying in bed at night thinking about the cesspit controlling this planet, I send out as much love as I can muster out into the mix. It would be nice if AJ would learn this and present it on air. There is no fighting them, we can only transcend them. Of course they know this.

Cheers,
Fred S.