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ngogly
14th August 2010, 20:58
I want to talk about possible subvert in truth seekers movement. Writing in English is difficult to me, but I hope to be understandable.

People are programmed to avoid independent and critical thinking. It needs lot of coincidences in someones life to be at least partially liberated from that hypnosis. Probably we, ex soviet people, see it more clearly. We were used to this type of manipulation and every dissident message was written between lines.

In my opinion the full time new age "scientists" who travel and lecture from astronomy to biology, can be debunked with simple logic. Any scientist needs time to produce his science, but they just travel and speak and they are young. They are not scientists, they are opportunists fulfilling peoples demand who are uncertain about future and long for hope. They support each other and sometimes they fight if competition becomes too high.

They just sell bleaching agent as miracle remedy. They sell ascension physics lectures, which promise to open all secrets and only secret revealed is time and price of next level gathering. They sell "history" which they borrowed from Sitchin or Blavatskaja or someone else and mixed it with already existing new age noise (which is important because amount of similar information tends to increase credibility).

They talk about discovering simple, publicly available, cheap and free energy to everyone, but never reveal it. They discovered all this in high school but never had 300 bucks or time to finish it, instead had time to make a presentation. Some scientists who discover free or cheap energy will be erased from life and history forever and others are allowed to speak freely?

One time whistle blowers are somewhat more interesting. There you can find either real whistle blower or old agent who was asked to put out predetermined script. Old agents usually disappear after their announcement, because their job is done. Those manipulative scripts are not meant to be too specific and any future interview must be avoided.

Usually it starts with visit or call from "old friend" who offers one time job to old agent. It mentions some problems in his family and offers to fix them. Maybe grand daughter touched narcotics, son needs promotion or money to avoid bankruptcy ... or maybe old agent just needs alternation to his life.

Old agent accepts offer, receives script and briefing. Hi is ready to make announcement. Agency organizes interview and job is done. Other participants are not aware of this. They see very gentle, smart, educated and devoted man who answers to every question except the ones outside of script or legend. In such a case they think for a while and say: "That question can't be answered, this info is still classified or too dangerous to you". Now you can drop a dear, hi cares about us. It's nonsense to blow half whistle but no one seems to bother.

There are two extreme polarities in information exchange, those who search for ultimate truth and those who sell it to them.

At same time lots of people are confused, someone blended truth seeking movement with forthcoming New Age religion. People search in panic for new ways to ascend, protect from 2012 and than every year to 2028. They order any placebo and lot of poisons to protect from known and unknown diseases. They spend fortunes to get new lectures, because others in Internet can go out of body, fly freely in distant universes, talk to aliens, levitate and connect to channels. Others ascend certainly to 5D, if they are pure enough, maybe even higher. Others see second sun, planet-X and Nibiru. Others are experts in holograms, chemtrails and make orgonite like McGyver makes explosives. Others do not need any food to live. Others can talk to dead parents, neighbors cat and can see every possible future time line. Others have opened all chakras, are in half way to 3 strand DNA and complete their 12 strand transition before December 2012. Others resonate in higher voices every day and with others too. Others are informed how to invest their money when money stops to exist. Others ordered lot of gold and silver when prices were in peak. Everyone wants to be like others.

It happened before and probably will happen again. People are confused and frightened and need desperately someone to trust, some solid information, new and better way of living. They wait it, fear it, call it big change, new world, golden era, ascension or armageddon.

People in other end of pyramid prepare too. They call it dawn of new age and new world order. They want more power, more privileges and they want to have it openly, not secretly like they were forced to do it before. They prepare to come out of closet, unite the world powers and look further to conquer space. They need slaves.

To master this plan they seed confusion and push society to desired direction in old conspired way - good old plan A. If plan A fails then people are very angry and want to destroy them. And there comes good plan B, they subvert resistance. They give to us some old secret organizations, some politicians, lot of crap from new religion worksheet and then we push this revolution together. Outcome looks different but works as well as plan A. Both plans end with same two box society - cosmic masters with technology, privileges and wealth; earthly slaves with no rights and without future.

Remember socialist revolution, women's liberty movement, hippie movement and countless others - they all were organized by elite and people had no idea.

Lot of people can see injustice around us and hope for pan C. Plan where elite fails and golden age becomes to earth. They need plan C so desperately that are ready to accept every single way to make it possible. And where is buyer, there comes seller.

Why I bother to write all this? Because if we are too naive or not critical enough, we can finally find that our plan C was actually elite plan B. Excellent usage of confusion and engineered flood of information to drown small pieces of real truth.

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I know that lot of people take risks and do a hard job to dig up the truth. There is lot of useful information and even more good people. I become a member because I appreciate information from Avalon, but remember, out there is bunch of people who have abundance of resources. They got it through conspiracy and do not want to loose a single privilege.

World is also full of opportunistic deceivers who sometimes make fortunes on naive people.

The point where someone leaves old reality behind and starts to form the new one is most dangerous to them. I knew professional deceivers and they are really persuasive.

If you feel that someone or something is so sacred that can't be argued or discussed or friendly laughed about - you have already been deceived.

If you think that everyone who opposes your enemy is friend - you have already been deceived.

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And now some ideas to plan B masters. Take it all with smile in face.

1) New idea for lazy lecturer
The power elite operational structure works like set theory. Different groups, belief systems and informational domains are organized as sets which can contain subsets, can be included in supersets and sometimes overlap each other. This structure can be represented graphically as triangle or pyramid or rings inside rings. From perspective of illumination we have downward-pointing triangle which means that elite is more informed than lower classes. From power perspective we have upward-pointing triangle, few in power to rule the rest. If we put those two ideological triangles on top of each other, we can start a new religion with six pointed star. Was it joke or biggest secret? This concept alone opens opportunity to become full time lecturer or sell million+ copies of truth.

2) New tactics to eliminate nations
You need basis for mass migration. It can be hard to wreck all nature and economies. Be creative and use something in new age style. Fake and find the ark of governor, then you can discover a new secret tablet where god promises different lands to different nations or races (tested and works). Russians get Europe, China goes to Russia, Americans to Africa and so on.

3) Correct the mess with ascension chemistry
Talking about different secret fish oils, secretions, hormones and household miracle chemicals can be misleading to simple people. Perhaps test project "hippie" was not failure at all. Forced use of hallucinogenic compound can eliminate lot of problems like peoples longevity, resistance or inability to experience 4+ dimensional reality.

4) The biggest scientific secret of all times
Holographic pictures can manifest ideas to holographic universe. Can't you see? Holographic = holographic and it resonates. No need for expensive mind control projects and uncontrollable dolphins. Everyday holographic pictures made from commercial products manifest only abundance. Start to make different pictures, you can manifest something else too and you can start whole new business - holographic jewelery with exotic vibrations, ascension through holographic manifestations and 20$ personal time line necklace.

5) Good aliens vs bad aliens
Are they bad or good, malevolent or benevolent? Different sides never agree each other, but I have a better idea - let aliens to be just opportunistic. Let's say, winners are those who provide more resources and pleasure to aliens. It may solve lot of problems - humanity can now have ultimate gaol, duality remains, but both competing sides make the same outcome and aliens does not necessarily need to be aliens.

Ross
14th August 2010, 21:16
Hi ngogly,

Thank you for your post and I understand the difficulty with your english. You have done a good job and I understood fairly well.

Excellent post!


people are programmed to avoid independent and critical thinking. It needs lot of coincidences in someones life to be at least partially liberated from that hypnosis. Probably we, ex soviet people, see it more clearly. We were used to this type of manipulation and every dissident message was written between lines.


I have said this many times and here it is again:

Our perception of reality is based on our belief system, a construct of the information we have been given/ received...this for me, promotes EXTREME discerment from every possible angle, of all information.

Regards

Ross

Arpheus
14th August 2010, 23:40
You have a lot of valid points my friend,i understand where you are coming from and i agree with a lot of the things you have said,i said it before when dec 21 2012 lands and nothing happens a lot of people are gonna be bummed out heh,people are too busy looking outside and forgetting to look within for the most part,and thats where the capital crime lies within!!

HORIZONS
14th August 2010, 23:57
Great Post! I like your style. Very well put, I understand what you are expressing and it is very well thought out. Keep up the good work.

sjkted
15th August 2010, 01:56
Hi Ngogly,

You raise some good points. If I had to guess from your post, I would say that you are an engineer :-)

You're absolutely right. There are a bunch of opportunists who are looking to make money from the 2012 idea/armagaddeon.

I see this as part of the process. We are still in the old paradigm and people are still acting in many of their old ways.

I agree also that the elite may be working Plan C to plan B, but things don't always go according to plan. One thing to remember is that their plans always rely on "voluntary compliance". There aren't enough policemen and guns to police everyone. And, if the majority want to do something other than what the elite are pushing, they will have to back down. After all, if the people they are giving orders to choose to disobey, they will have no power.

We are nearing the end of the new paradigm. If nothing else happens in 2012, I think we will see the crashing of all of our old familiar systems. What will it be replaced with? I don't know, but my mind and focus is set on plan C -- the whole thing crashes and people come together to work it out and find that we can come up with something much better than our current neo-slavery system.

For me, it's kind of a "be the change you wish to see" kind of thing. I'm preparing for the new world -- and when we get to a turning point I'll be looking for everyone else who has been preparing as well. There's only so long the slavery-system built upon lies and suffering can last. We will eventually run out of resources and people to exploit. What the elite is doing is anti-nature and is a ponzi scheme and it cannot live forever. You make it sound like all we can do is wait and see what will happen. I see that change happens from within and there will be change.

--sjkted

FrankoL
15th August 2010, 14:26
Hi Ngogly, you outlined a good point.

Maybe there is no absolute truth or it is so complex that we cannot grasp it.

You (we) were mislead by taking down to rabbit whole, searching for the ultimate truth. It can be very addictive. More you "know" more you want. Perhaps there is no plan A,B or C...or you might have 1000 of them (or more). Who knows, who cares. What you want is more important.

When investing so much energy you feel sorry, almost angry if this was a huge waste of time. It is like playing in casino. Usually you lose money. When you play to redeem it, you have been already trapped. You lose more and more. You have to "play" for fun.

I usually take these new age preachers like story tellers. Some of them are really amazing (in creative point of view). Don't you think?

RedeZra
15th August 2010, 15:08
tnx Ngogly for taking the time to post this part about the schisms or the -isms that is designed to divide us


Communism for instance was designed to destroy aristocrat Russia and to eradicate Christianity

Capitalism was designed to siphon land property and real value from the many to the few

Darwinism was designed to blot God out of peoples psyche

Terrorism is designed as an enemy while Alienism is designed as a potential threat


It's All a Bunch of Big Bluffs


I can appreciate the High Intelligence behind those Lies - but it's only make believe until people believe in these -isms and start pursuing them as if it is the real deal

Samarkis
18th September 2010, 14:03
I enjoyed yr post! I also feel that the 'systems' in place are anti-nature.....
And I also believe that it would be nice to have seen changes before reaching so much distress, yet, most people do not fix things before they are absolutely broken.......

I also agree with redezra's 'isms'......
unless we adopt systems that follow the golden rule (which is what is make up of universe) we will continue to see lack & strife......whether it be economics,energy,health,etc.......

I trust that we all will reach the realization sooner than later!

In Light!



Hi Ngogly,

You raise some good points. If I had to guess from your post, I would say that you are an engineer :-)

You're absolutely right. There are a bunch of opportunists who are looking to make money from the 2012 idea/armagaddeon.

I see this as part of the process. We are still in the old paradigm and people are still acting in many of their old ways.

I agree also that the elite may be working Plan C to plan B, but things don't always go according to plan. One thing to remember is that their plans always rely on "voluntary compliance". There aren't enough policemen and guns to police everyone. And, if the majority want to do something other than what the elite are pushing, they will have to back down. After all, if the people they are giving orders to choose to disobey, they will have no power.

We are nearing the end of the new paradigm. If nothing else happens in 2012, I think we will see the crashing of all of our old familiar systems. What will it be replaced with? I don't know, but my mind and focus is set on plan C -- the whole thing crashes and people come together to work it out and find that we can come up with something much better than our current neo-slavery system.

For me, it's kind of a "be the change you wish to see" kind of thing. I'm preparing for the new world -- and when we get to a turning point I'll be looking for everyone else who has been preparing as well. There's only so long the slavery-system built upon lies and suffering can last. We will eventually run out of resources and people to exploit. What the elite is doing is anti-nature and is a ponzi scheme and it cannot live forever. You make it sound like all we can do is wait and see what will happen. I see that change happens from within and there will be change.

--sjkted