GIZA'S SECRET DIGGINGS VIDEO EXPOSED A Report by Andrew Collins

[sunflower]

GIZA'S SECRET DIGGINGS VIDEO EXPOSED

A REPORT BY ANDREW COLLINS


http://www.andrewcollins.com/pics/Panorama%20from%20Flower%20hotel%202008%20LOW.jpg

With additional research from
Rodney Hale, Dr Greg Little and
Nigel Skinner-Simpson

On April 28, 2010 video footage appeared claiming to show Atlantean artefacts being secretly loaded on to a low loader by a heavy forklift vehicle around 2am that morning. Those who promoted this video as evidence of a conspiracy at Giza urged everyone to link it to their webpage or website since the cameraman, a foreign national, was now on the run and in fear of his life. Why? Because he had donned an Egyptian uniform and sneaked into a "compound" to capture this unique piece of film footage.
Sounding like something from an Indiana Jones movie, the video clip ignited the world into believing that something sinister was afoot, a shameful misappropriation of priceless objects from the fabled Hall of Records involving everyone from Dr Zahi Hawass to Edgar Cayce's A.R.E. (Association for Research and Enlightenment).
We can now reveal how this video was put together, where it was made, and what it really shows. We conclude that this footage is not what it seems, and does not show what it says.

The Posted Version of the Video

The night time video is just over 5 minutes, 30 seconds long and mostly centred on an area of the plateau in darkness. You see three fixed lights in a horizontal line and other lights moving slowly around just off to their right. Eventually, you can make out a piece of plant machinery, a heavy forklift or something similar, with two bright headlights, that is seen maneuvering about.
The soundtrack to the video gives the impression of construction work taking place in the vicinity of the nocturnal activity. Yet, clearly, it is not original to the video, for it consists of five repeated cycles of ambient noises, each one 1 minute, 6 seconds in length. Those behind the video claim they messed around with its audio in order to protect the uniformed cameraman, whose voice features on the original soundtrack.

The remainder of the article can be read here (http:// http://http://www.andrewcollins.com/page/articles/exposed.htm):

http://www.andrewcollins.com/page/news/index.htm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQAx4WUIlMA&feature=player_embedded

[Enlightenment101]

These guys were on coast to coast am talking about this, Its very interesting

[Enlightenment101]

Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYuTXjztjQU&feature=youtube_gdata

[MariaDine]

Great Interviews ! Thank you very much Enlightement 101 !


The origins of the story about the "Hall of Records" are unknown, though the idea that there is a cavity around the sphinx dates back to Pliny the Elder. In Pliny's Natural History, he states that "[the Egyptians] are of the opinion that a King Harmais is buried inside it."

The psychic Edgar Cayce had several psychic readings of the Hall of Records.

He claimed that in 1998 the Hall would be discovered and opened and humanity would move into a new era of prosperity. Cayce also suggested that the opening would coincide with the Second Coming of Christ.

Pliny 's Natural History - CHAP. 17.—THE EGYPTIAN SPHINX.

«In front of these pyramids is the Sphinx,1 a still more wondrous object of art, but one upon which silence has been observed, as it is looked upon as a divinity by the people of the neighbourhood.

It is their belief that King Harmaïs was buried in it, and they will have it that it was brought there from a distance.

The truth is, however, that it was hewn from the solid rock; and, from a feeling of veneration, the face of the monster is coloured red.

The circumference of the head, measured round the forehead, is one hundred and two feet, the length of the feet being one hundred and forty-three, and the height, from the belly to the summit of the asp on the head, sixty-two.»


It is interessing that Andrew Collins talks about the red ocre present in the natural caves...and Pliny refers that the face of the sphinx is painted red :):dance3:

[sunflower]

Alternate Perceptions Magazine, Issue #151, August 2010

Did Six Egyptians Die While Digging for the Hall of Records at Giza?
An Investigative Report

by Dr. Greg Little

In September 2009 six Egyptian villagers died while digging an illegal tunnel shaft. The site of the illegal excavation was in the village of Nazlet el-Samman, under a ramshackle house adjacent to the wall surrounding the Giza Plateau—not far from the Sphinx. Newspaper accounts (reproduced in the full pdf article) relate that the villagers had been convinced by a charlatan that an ancient treasure could be found by digging down to a tunnel complex under the house. Speculation immediately arose that they were attempting to access the Hall of Records described by Edgar Cayce, but precisely where they obtained the specific site information is an intriguing question. Both before and after the deaths, a lot of questionable activities took place. This article is a careful examination of these events and also probes an alleged conspiracy that has been widely circulated by its proponents and the participants in the events.
Precisely how the site (just off the Giza Plateau) was identified as an access point is possibly explained in a claim made by Bill Brown, who says he was the manager of a Polish university ground penetrating radar project in Egypt. Brown and a colleague, Richard Gabriel (a pseudonym), claim that a conspiracy is at work involving the Cayce organization and Dr. Zahi Hawass. Brown flatly claims that Hawass and the ARE are lying about secret excavations and he says that an "Atlantean high technology device" previously "seen" underground by him has apparently been removed. Brown and Gabriel also claim that they have seen other underground "treasures, gold and statues," in this area of the plateau. In a thorough investigation of their claims, I have found many disturbing facts. It does appear that the Egyptians were digging for the Hall of Records, and why they chose that spot appears to be linked to Brown. The complete story, the first of at least one more to follow, is contained in a pdf file below. It's not likely to make anyone happy, but the Egyptian authorities certainly have some things to look into and investigate.

Download pdf here:
http://mysterious-america.net/Resources/Deaths%20%26%20HOR.pdf

http://mysterious-america.net/egyptdeaths.html

[Shairia]

Extremely interesting thread. My gut feeling is that they have discovered a technology and that is the treasure they allude to. We may never know the truth as long as the site and information are controlled.

[sunflower]

I agree with you, Shairia. If you haven't yet had the opportunity to view "The Pyramid Code" by Carmen Boulter the link is below. She also has interesting hints and info. The photography and music also make this five-part series well worth viewing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlSssnh4b7Q

[Shairia]

Thanks, I'e heard her C2C Interview so this ought to be very intereting.:cool:

[sunflower]

Part Two


Did Six Egyptians Die While Digging for the Hall of Records at Giza?
Has MJ-12 Become Involved? An Investigative Report—Part 2
by Dr. Greg Little

... In September 2009 six Egyptian villagers died while digging an illegal tunnel shaft. The site of the illegal excavation was in the village of Nazlet el-Samman, under a ramshackle house adjacent to the wall surrounding the Giza Plateau—not far from the Sphinx. Newspaper accounts relate that the villagers had been convinced by a charlatan that an ancient treasure could be found by digging down to a tunnel complex under the house. Precisely where the Egyptians obtained the specific site information is an intriguing question. Both before and after the deaths, a lot of questionable activities took place. This article is a careful examination of these events and also probes an alleged conspiracy that has been widely circulated by its proponents and the participants in the events.
The conspiracy is said to involve Dr. Zahi Hawass, the Cayce organization, and others.

In part 2, the background of the entire story is revealed along with a careful evaluation of all the claims made by the two individuals who have spun numerous tales about events at Giza and elsewhere. According to the main proponent of the conspiracy, an MJ-12 military group in Texas is now somehow involved. Virtually all of the key claims made by the conspiracy proponents are shown to be false, exaggerated, or fantasy. While they state that they want the Egyptian authorities to respond to a petition allowing for an excavation of the Hall of Records, it is concluded that their efforts and the deaths will perhaps stop all Hall of Records work at Giza for our lifetime. The full article is a pdf file accessed below.

http://www.mysterious-america.net/Resources/Deaths%20%26%20HORpt2.pdf


http://www.mysterious-america.net/egyptdeaths2.html

http://richardgabriel.info/

http://www.gizamap.com/geomatrix/

I don't agree with Dr. Greg Little's statement re Maj-12. :(

[saint_chris]

this website is cool thanks , go on it and click EARTHS PROTECTION good little clip about 2012

http://www.gizamap.com/geomatrix/

[Snowbird]

I agree with you, Shairia. If you haven't yet had the opportunity to view "The Pyramid Code" by Carmen Boulter the link is below. She also has interesting hints and info. The photography and music also make this five-part series well worth viewing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlSssnh4b7Q

Goodness! I absolutely agree, Sunflower. I just finished watching all 25 segments and now have a totally different, updated and renewed knowledge concerning ancient Egypt. May I add however, that there exists a second set of this same video series with far fewer video changes. I have linked the first episode of each segment below. If you decide to spend your time, which is more than well worth your time, keep a close watch on the title, episode name and part number. Once you get started, it becomes like clockwork.

My favorite episode is number 4, The Empowered Human. Good grief, the ancients had full-spectrum senses with the capacity of 360 senses. We have five+. I learned where the selling of salvation came from. I also learned about pharaohs of the golden age who have been reputed down through the ages to be weird or their history was destroyed simply because they supported the concept of the balancing feminine energies.

The star of this whole series is Abd'El Hakim Awyan, an archaeologist and indigenous wisdom keeper. This man knows his stuff and disagrees with just about everything that we have been taught about ancient Egyptian history. He's a very old man and is sharp as a tack and I'm glad that they put him on video.

The Pyramid Code - Ep 1 - The Band of Peace part 1/5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al01-W2X-4o&feature=related


The Pyramid Code - Ep 2 - High Level Technology part 1/5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yITGQOyenDA&feature=related


The Pyramid Code - Ep3 - Sacred Cosmology part 1/5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtJfU2uIUFo&feature=related


The Pyramid Code - Ep4 - The Empowered Human part 1/5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV7oCBj1BwU&feature=related


The Pyramid Code - Ep5 - A New Chronology part 1/5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHvY6M20HgQ&feature=related

[Moemers]

Have been really fascinated with all of this since I discovered the Pyramid Code and Giza Geomatrix website.

Thanks for the links!

[kriya]

I agree with you, Shairia. If you haven't yet had the opportunity to view "The Pyramid Code" by Carmen Boulter the link is below. She also has interesting hints and info. The photography and music also make this five-part series well worth viewing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlSssnh4b7Q

Great series, thanks for sharing Sunflower.

Love,

Kriya

[Richard Gabriel]

Hello everyone,

Will the following Raise the Dead ...or lay a few ghosts of 2010 to rest?

Either way, 2010 could not be let to go without straightening the record from this side of a completely unnecessary fence!

Shafted on the Giza Plateau (http://www.richardgabriel.info/SHAFTED%202010.html)

Blessings
Richard

[Rocky_Shorz]

I'm curious how they found out it was "Atlantis" technology that was recovered under Giza...

is it easier for the public to believe in a lost civilization never found than ET?

[MiguelQ]

but what are the pyramids? sometimes i see those womans saying they are channeling etc info from above etc.. but how come they dont ever come with an answer about what are they for.. why?? because thats a big secret that should us let know.

[str8thinker]

From Andrew Collins' website:

The Great Pyramid Was Not Built By Aliens: It's Official (http://www.andrewcollins.com/page/news/nocrystal.htm)


In late November 2010 a news report appeared online claiming that one of the world's leading Egyptologists has implied that aliens might have been involved in the construction of the Pyramids of Giza, adding that there was something "out of this world" inside the Great Pyramid.

Such staggering claims were always going to draw the attention of every social networking site user into aliens and ancient mysteries, ensuring that the story circulated Facebook and Twitter like wildfire. I followed the link given, which was to an apparent news site with the address of allnewsweb.com.

Well, well, it's our friend Michael Cohen of allnewsweb.com up to his old tricks of spreading disinfo and grief.

[sunflower]

Hello everyone,

Will the following Raise the Dead ...or lay a few ghosts of 2010 to rest?

Either way, 2010 could not be let to go without straightening the record from this side of a completely unnecessary fence!

Shafted on the Giza Plateau

Blessings
Richard

It is good to get both sides of the picture. I have been following your progress via your website and realize how frustrating the last few years must have been for you and your associates. Here's hoping 2011-12 works out better!

[MariaDine]

The Sphinx
by Deane E. Kogelschatz
There are few objects on our planet that elicit as much excitement or controversy as the Sphinx. Whether it’s who built it, when it was built, its purpose or the origins of its name, the Sphinx remains one of the most controversial objects of our time.

Lying in the Giza Plateau, the Sphinx faces due east and points at the middle pyramid of the complex with the Great Pyramid on its right. It’s 260 feet long and has a small temple between its paws. It has a height of 65 feet and is 20 feet wide.

One of the Sphinx controversies centers around its head and whether what we see today is the original. The 1925 photo below illustrates these differences in material before the Sphinx had been dug out and restoration efforts took place. It is quite obvious that the head is made of quite different material than the neck, shoulders or the rest of the body.

Our two energy essence friends, Elias and Kris, also agree that the head we see today is not the original.

What follows is a brief excerpt of my session with Kris, 10/29/04:

DEANE: (52:42) I have another question in that regard. When you talked about the Sphinx being at least ten thousand years old, I was told that you said the head of the Sphinx was originally that of Anubis. Now Anubis was an Egyptian creation, I think, and if the Sphinx is over ten thousand years old, how could it have originally been the head of Anubis? Can you clarify that, please?

KRIS: Indeed. Where do you think these deities come from? From the Egyptian Pantheon?

DEANE: Well, Egyptian fantasy, just like some of our present day fantasies. Of course they could have been picked up elsewhere, but the dynamics of a time frame of early ancient Egypt of four thousand years ago, and the civilization you’re talking about, ten thousand years ago, that still leaves six thousand years between them and the early Egyptian civilization as we know it, and that would be a big stretch to pick up Anubis, would it not?

KRIS: It would appear as such. They were a much older culture on that part of Africa. […] The area in question, the Nile Delta, was also much different, being lush garden land much larger in area. And the Mediterranean was non-existent. The Egyptian land mass as it is commonly known, extends much farther north. After such a time, [there was] another culture at that place. [unintelligible] your old Egyptian mythologies retire to their predecessor as Netjer1.

There are also controversies regarding the age of the Sphinx. The Egyptian government holds the official position that the Pharaoh Khafre-Chephren, in the 4th Dynasty, about 2500 BC, was the builder. But more recently, in the 1990s, geologist Robert Schoch and writer John Anthony West shook the historical and geological world by providing evidence and announcing that in their opinion, the Sphinx was at least 9000 years old and possibly much older.

The proof they offered was based on the vertical weathering features on the Sphinx and its enclosures. This type of weathering can only be caused by water erosion and does not appear on other more fragile mud-brick structures on the Sakkara Plateau, ten miles south of Giza, indisputably dated several hundred years earlier than the standard dating of the Sphinx.

Now to compound our Sphinx mysteries, there are rumors of secret passageways, rooms and chambers holding the histories of the world and secrets to life itself. The illustration below shows what has already been discovered below and to the side of the Sphinx.

GO HERE TO SEE THE ILLUSTRATION http://wisp.focusphere.net/wisp/07/the-sphinx

Perhaps there is something inside the Sphinx, an area that remains to be discovered.

It began on Saturday, January 10, 2004, when a small group of Elias List members decided they would pool their energy and see if they could make a trip under the Sphinx to determine if any hidden rooms existed. The attempt passed without anything being discovered.

On January 14th, a Wednesday afternoon some four days later, I was sitting in my lounge chair in my barroom, relaxing and having my first bourbon of the day. I began wondering about the group excursion to the Sphinx, feeling sorry I had missed it that previous Saturday afternoon. I continued to wonder if I could go under the Sphinx myself without the assistance of any pooled energy to do so. I leaned back and let my mind float free, embedded with this intention. Some moments later I was there, experiencing very realistic visual images, in color, but this time inside the Sphinx, not under it.

I recorded the specific details of what I saw and experienced, made a transcript of this and posted it to the Elias List. An Elias List friend who lives out west, Don, offered to read my detailed transcript to Elias in his upcoming session, asking Elias to point out any errors in my perceptions. Don did this and Elias validated all of it:

February 10, 2004 ‐ Session #1509

DON: I have a very long question from Deane/Leland. This is what he wrote about his impressions of what is a physical description of what’s under the Sphinx2. I’ll go ahead and read this verbatim […]. He’s asking for a confirmation of these impressions, or any amendments.

“The first room really isn’t a room, it’s like a vestibule. It’s about eight feet, (2-½ meters), square and has three walls. The wall that faces the body of the Sphinx isn’t there and the steps down start from there. As you walk down the steps, you are walking toward the tail of the Sphinx. There are probably twenty steps. When you get to the bottom, it’s about eight feet square and there is an entrance to an empty room to your left and one to the right. I would guess these rooms are the same size and are about twelve feet square, (four meters), and they do not have doors. As I write these words I get the impression these rooms were ceremonial in nature. About five feet ahead are some steps — six, seven, maybe eight of them — and a door at the top rather wide and tall. I can’t tell if it’s made of wood, but I know it’s not a solid stone slab. I estimate the door to be about six feet wide and perhaps eight to ten feet tall.
“Inside is a very long room that goes about halfway under the Sphinx. The room is about ten to twelve feet wide and it’s about eight feet tall. It looks like it is somewhat wider than it is high. As you enter the doorway, on the left are what looks like hollowed out areas that function as shelves. Scrolls are laid there and what looks like almost square-cut palm leaves in a frame. The leaves contained within are cut wider at the top than at the bottom and they are treated with something, perhaps embalming stuff, to make them last.
There’s some other stuff there too, piled on the shelf I’m looking at, that may be a stack of papyri. I do not know where the light came from so that I could see. I do know that as I was facing the shelves, the tail would be to my right and I could see easily. To my right it was dark and I could not see the wall, thus my impression that the room continues towards the tail. My impression is that it continues about halfway under the Sphinx.”

DON: That’s the end of it. Do you have any comments on any of it or anything to say?

ELIAS: I may express confirmation and validation of the description, and of his impressions.

DON: All right.

As my thoughts return and I relive the experience, I cannot help but think of all the ancient treasures that lie out there just waiting to be touched once again by human hands, transmitting information from eons past. It is there for us to claim, our ancient heritage, as we continue to expand our consciousness and integrate new knowledge into our reality.

End notes

1 Egyptian term for “divinity”; also used by Kris both as a name for another non-physical source and as a name for a civilisation pre-dating the ancient Egyptians.

Photography by Jon Bodsworth ‐ http://egyptarchive.co.uk

Drawing from Manual Of Egyptian Archaeology And Guide To The Study Of Antiquities In Egypt, by Gaston Camille Charles Maspero

2 Note from Deane: I found myself inside the Sphinx, not under it, below the right paw.

http://wisp.focusphere.net/wisp/07/the-sphinx

[MariaDine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd3S3ZZBdzw&feature=related

[Lost Soul]

Dibs on Thoth's ship.

[MariaDine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETcosgYS9DU&feature=related

[MariaDine]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_tpz1JXCeylY/S-fJsIiRYeI/AAAAAAAAACg/7GkR0bK1nbs/s1600/Thoutmosis+IV+5b.jpg

THE DREAM STELLA

In the stella one can see the depiction of the rooms bellow the sphinx. Called the Hall of Records.
It is said - legend - to be the remains of an ancient healing temple that was destroied , reduce to crystal sand that still covers the gound of the rooms. There some papers would be dicover in the future, as well, as in the Isles of Azores .

[MariaDine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mE-keaE01s&feature=related

For those who never get enough of Egypt video series ...:) .......some info about the possibility of the dating of the Sphinx....................maybe it's from before the Ice Age...



NAMASTÉ

[MariaDine]

Schwaller de Lubicz , mencioned in the video, was the man that decoded the symbolism of the Temple of Luxor. Friend of the alquimist Fulcanelli, who dedicated him his book »Le Mystére des Cathedrales».

Schools of Mysteries, symbolism, alquimy, sacred geometry and constrution...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._A._Schwaller_de_Lubicz

[senate014]

Hi everyone,

I was wondering if anyone here thinks that there may be a link here?...

Back in May 2010 ProjectCamelot released the video on the secret removal of ancient artifacts from the Giza Plateau which was done in secrecy under our noses:

http://projectcamelotproductions.com/interviews/giza_geomatrix/giza_geomatrix.html

Do you think they (33) knew something before anyone else about the current protects and civil unrest currently taking place in Egypt and decided to get everything out before it starts to kickoff?

What are your thoughts?

Cheers,

Andy

[Carmody]

The very first conclusion I came to when viewing the Iraq war, was that the very core idea was to get rid of and hide all the archaeological findings.

Everything else was secondary and just along for the ride, IMO.

[BenjiRixon]

Just watched all the pyramid code, very interesting. If the water came right up to the pryamids, is it a possability that because of the underground tunnels/rooms etc below the pryamids, they might of been filled with water due to being below the level of the nile maybe? and the same for the sphinx?

Which makes me then think, were they used for some sort of damn/pumping station to supply water to desert areas or some other sort of water function/feature??? even tho i still think they were used for something more than that. But it makes your wind wonder if you think about the inclusion of water and maybe give another clue as in to what they were built for

[sunflower]

I was wondering if anyone here thinks that there may be a link here?...

Back in May 2010 ProjectCamelot released the video on the secret removal of ancient artifacts from the Giza Plateau which was done in secrecy under our noses:

http://projectcamelotproductions.com...geomatrix.html

Do you think they (33) knew something before anyone else about the current protects and civil unrest currently taking place in Egypt and decided to get everything out before it starts to kickoff?

What are your thoughts?

Cheers,

Andy


Good point! More probable than the black market trade in ancient artifacts.

[Gustav]

Perhaps a little off topic, if so let me know. First of all, thank you for posting the links to the Pyramid Code. I was not aware of this very interesting documentary. One thing that stood out for me, and unfortunately I do not remember where I have read it, was that the person/being we know now as Jesus supposedly talked about some aspects that are also mentioned in that documentary in regard to maternalism. Namely that people themselves are responsible for the weighing of their heart at the end of their lives. He refers to this as that individuals have to find God in themselves and not at the mercy of others. Knowing that jesus went to both Egypt and India during his lifetime I think that implies this person/being known as Jesus was very well aware of the ancient maternalistic/paternalistic structures and the 26,000 year cycles. To those who would know more about this, does that observation make sense in your eyes?

I also found the reference quite intruiging where the weighing of the heart could be bought through the priesthood of Amon. This idea is very similar to the 'pardon' that could be bought in medieval Europe from the church to get your sins absolved and go to heaven. So also in that respect a cycle is noticeable.

Very interesting, thanks again!

[InCiDeR]

Extremely interesting thread. Thank you all for the great interviews and videos you shared.

*I smell a rat...goes out digging*

[Dionysus]

I agree with you, Shairia. If you haven't yet had the opportunity to view "The Pyramid Code" by Carmen Boulter the link is below. She also has interesting hints and info. The photography and music also make this five-part series well worth viewing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlSssnh4b7Q

I just finished watching it and am very happy I did. I am impressed with the quality of the film and the ideas it presents. Some of it was new to me, and much was familiar. One of the things I really like about this documentary is its willingness to look outside of just Egyptian history and archeology and try to fit things into a bigger picture. I would recommend this to anyone who hasn't seen it.

One of the interviewees is Walter Cruttenden, whose book Lost Star of Myth and Time I also very highly recommend.

The movie is available for viewing online on Netflix for those who have an account there, which is a much more convenient way to view it than over YouTube, with its 10 min. length limitation. This is how I watched most of it once I found it there.

One tiny criticism I might voice is that Carmen Boulter mentions that the prevailing academic view is that the pyramids were built by slave labour. Even academia no longer believes this, and accepts that those monuments that have so-called 'mason's marks' clearly show that the labour was voluntary, and possibly paid.

However, the pyramids at Giza have no mason's marks on their stones, except for highly suspicious ones found inside the King's chamber. These are almost certainly forgeries by the early Egyptologists who first accessed this chamber, trying to force their discovery to fit with their preconceived theory of when it was built and by whom (Khufu.)

[Ahkenaten]

I thought the mason's marks were on the upper side of the granite beams in the King's chamber of the Great Pyramid, marks that Christopher Dunn thinks were made AFTER the massive beams were put in place to TUNE THEM TO THE PROPER RESONANT FREQUENCY BY CHIPPING OFF PIECES OF GRANITE until the correct harmonic tone was achieved by striking the stone.

[Lazlo]

I thought the mason's marks were on the upper side of the granite beams in the King's chamber of the Great Pyramid, marks that Christopher Dunn thinks were made AFTER the massive beams were put in place to TUNE THEM TO THE PROPER RESONANT FREQUENCY BY CHIPPING OFF PIECES OF GRANITE until the correct harmonic tone was achieved by striking the stone.

Robert Schoch addressed the quarry marks in the uppermost relieving chamber, in his book on the great pyramid. It was his contention that the marks were original, in that some of them extend under adjacent stones and could not have been added later. He does say, however that they may refer to a "generic" Khufu, much in the way that Thoth or Osiris is often referenced as an ideal, rather than an individual. I'd have to dig through the book again to be more specific.

[Dionysus]

I thought the mason's marks were on the upper side of the granite beams in the King's chamber of the Great Pyramid, marks that Christopher Dunn thinks were made AFTER the massive beams were put in place to TUNE THEM TO THE PROPER RESONANT FREQUENCY BY CHIPPING OFF PIECES OF GRANITE until the correct harmonic tone was achieved by striking the stone.

The marks I was referring to are painted on the stones, not chipped. I'm not familiar with Christopher Dunn's work, but this sounds interesting, and meshes with ideas presented in the video.


Robert Schoch addressed the quarry marks in the uppermost relieving chamber, in his book on the great pyramid. It was his contention that the marks were original, in that some of them extend under adjacent stones and could not have been added later. He does say, however that they may refer to a "generic" Khufu, much in the way that Thoth or Osiris is often referenced as an ideal, rather than an individual. I'd have to dig through the book again to be more specific.

I am basing my statement on what Zecharia Sitchin wrote in his book The Stairway to Heaven. He devotes a whole chapter, 13, to this issue. I have serious reservations about some of the things Sitchin claims, but in this one case, he presents very cogent arguments. Personally, I found it the best part of the whole book. One of the things he mentions, IIRC because it has been a long time since I read it, is that none of the marks appear in locations that would not be accessible to someone crawling into the chamber in its present configuration. If some marks extend under or behind other stones, he either was unaware of that, or chose to ignore it. I would have to reread the chapter to refresh my memory about all his points, and it might be a while until I get around to that.

[Lazlo]

I am basing my statement on what Zecharia Sitchin wrote in his book The Stairway to Heaven. He devotes a whole chapter, 13, to this issue. I have serious reservations about some of the things Sitchin claims, but in this one case, he presents very cogent arguments. Personally, I found it the best part of the whole book. One of the things he mentions, IIRC because it has been a long time since I read it, is that none of the marks appear in locations that would not be accessible to someone crawling into the chamber in its present configuration. If some marks extend under or behind other stones, he either was unaware of that, or chose to ignore it. I would have to reread the chapter to refresh my memory about all his points, and it might be a while until I get around to that.

Pyramid Quest: Secrets of the Great Pyramid and the Dawn of Civilization. Robert Schock and Robert Aquinas McNally. 2005 Penguin Books

pp. 63-64
"I have never been persuaded by Sitchin's scholarship...jumped at the chance to see the inscriptions myself in late Nov 2003...again in May 2004...Those examinations convinced me that the cartouches...are indeed ancient and not forgeries by a 19th c English explorer...Portions of the cartouches are obscured by incrustations, unlike the abundant 19th & 20th c grafitti found in the relieving chambers. In addition, it is clear that some of the stones were marked before they were put into place, a sequence of events that rules out a modern forgery...one runs upwards before it is cut off by the chamber's roofing blocks, while another runs downward before it is cut off by the chamber's flooring blocks...Still this may not have been the the second pharoah of the old kingdom's fourth dynasty. Several of the cartouches read not "Khufu" but "Khnum-Khuf". Khnum refers to the primal egyptian god of creation, a diety later identified with Amon. Khuf is a variant spelling of Khufu...The heiroglyphic cartouche for the name Khufu was a powerful charm found on any number of tombs and monuments...many of them accurately dated to long after the fourth dynasty, some as late as a few centuries before christ...The relieving chambers inscriptions don't necessarily prove that Khufu built the great pyramid. They could mean that Khufu was named after the great pyramid, which existed before he did."

[Alien Ramone]

I agree with you, Shairia. If you haven't yet had the opportunity to view "The Pyramid Code" by Carmen Boulter the link is below. She also has interesting hints and info. The photography and music also make this five-part series well worth viewing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlSssnh4b7Q

I have watched most of the series so far (which is also on Hulu: http://www.hulu.com/watch/215033/the-pyramid-code-high-level-technology#s-p1-so-i0 ) and found episode 2 very interesting. At 19:20 into episode 2, they theorize how the great pyramid was a machine. It was built on lay lines which carry energy on geology that can magnify currents. The outer layer of the pyramid was turra limestone which has almost no magnesium and which would act as an insulator. The middle was made from dolemite limestone which has a lot of magnesium in it and would act as a conductor. The tunnels were lined with granite which would ionize the air within the tunnels, because it is slightly radioactive and releases radon gas. The shaft underneath would pick up electrical current from the limestone aquifers under the pyramid. Near the pyramids, there were crystal tubs and artifacts, whose purpose are unknown. It was stated in the show that no mummies were ever found in any of the pyramids. The point was made that there are no hieroglyphics in the Great Pyramid and that some of the pyramids may be much older than suspected. I wonder if what appeared to be a stone sarcophagus in the King's chamber was actually a portal. It seems to tie in with what Atticus had said about the pyramid being a machine to allow the Reptoids to leave Earth and which has a mechanism and key to make it work. Here is one of the quotes from Atticus where he mentioned the pryamids:


Reptiles evolved first,then we came along.

They made use of us.

This went on for a very long time.

When the climate changed due to natural occurrence , there numbers suffered and we became more prolific.

The climate continued to change and they had to retreat inside most of the time,we supplied all they needed.

Eventually the inevitable happened and man started to resist not believing the religious hype.

Then the real trouble started they had all the tech but not the numbers , and the cold played to mans advantage.

More or less genocide in sued .

We killed all we came across with great enthusiasm .

The writing was on the wall so to speak.

They turned there efforts to other avenues , escape to warmer climes.

Some loyal humans (priests etc) helped them develop the technology needed, they were advanced anyway.

The pyramids were constructed and they left for good,leaving one key they could only use for any left behind by accident or misadventure.

The humans ransacked the world they left behind over the centuries,bastardised the temples and dwellings.

Picked up prices of religion from it jostled for power etc etc.

The thirty three were the leading pure bloodlines that led the the insurgence .

They dropped back with knowledge and technology and kept it from the rest,as they learned some secrets about the origin of life from there masters(the priest bloodlines).

This leads into a very complicated area and I can't go into that yet....

I need to think about the consequences of to much to soon

[Dionysus]

pp. 63-64
"I have never been persuaded by Sitchin's scholarship...jumped at the chance to see the inscriptions myself in late Nov 2003...again in May 2004...Those examinations convinced me that the cartouches...are indeed ancient and not forgeries by a 19th c English explorer...Portions of the cartouches are obscured by incrustations, unlike the abundant 19th & 20th c grafitti found in the relieving chambers. In addition, it is clear that some of the stones were marked before they were put into place, a sequence of events that rules out a modern forgery...one runs upwards before it is cut off by the chamber's roofing blocks, while another runs downward before it is cut off by the chamber's flooring blocks...Still this may not have been the the second pharoah of the old kingdom's fourth dynasty. Several of the cartouches read not "Khufu" but "Khnum-Khuf". Khnum refers to the primal egyptian god of creation, a diety later identified with Amon. Khuf is a variant spelling of Khufu...The heiroglyphic cartouche for the name Khufu was a powerful charm found on any number of tombs and monuments...many of them accurately dated to long after the fourth dynasty, some as late as a few centuries before christ...The relieving chambers inscriptions don't necessarily prove that Khufu built the great pyramid. They could mean that Khufu was named after the great pyramid, which existed before he did."

Well, this appears to answer one question I had, namely did Schock see the actual marks, or just drawings and diagrams of them. Makes me wonder if Sitchin did, or whether he based his idea on drawings and reports only. I did reread the chapter, and the drawings accompanying the text do show some cartouches cut off by floor or ceiling stones. He makes no mention whether these seem to extend behind those stones, or just conveniently end at that point. I would love to some day visit Egypt and see these things for myself. Until then, I'll have to content myself with reading about it.

When do Schock et al. propose that the pyramids were built? It seems he does not accept Khufu as the builder. For a variety of reasons, I don't accept that view either.

Does he mention any possibility that these 'relieving chambers' were later additions, restorations or repairs, done long after the pyramids were originally built?

[Dionysus]

I wonder if what appeared to be a stone sarcophagus in the King's chamber was actually a portal. It seems to tie in with what Atticus had said about the pyramid being a machine to allow the Reptoids to leave Earth and which has a mechanism and key to make it work. Here is one of the quotes from Atticus where he mentioned the pryamids:

If any such 'portal' existed in the great pyramid, I would be inclined to seek it in the so called 'queen's chamber' instead of the 'king's chamber' because it is aligned much closer to a vertical center line.

[RAKMEiSTER]

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[sunflower]

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http://www.richardgabriel.info/CAVEPICS.html
http://www.richardgabriel.info/SHAFTED%202010.html
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Well designed website with lots of interesting information. It'll keep you busy for awhile! Richard Gabriel briefly was a member of Avalon 1.

[Alien Ramone]

I wonder if what appeared to be a stone sarcophagus in the King's chamber was actually a portal. It seems to tie in with what Atticus had said about the pyramid being a machine to allow the Reptoids to leave Earth and which has a mechanism and key to make it work. Here is one of the quotes from Atticus where he mentioned the pryamids:

If any such 'portal' existed in the great pyramid, I would be inclined to seek it in the so called 'queen's chamber' instead of the 'king's chamber' because it is aligned much closer to a vertical center line.

I was kind of wondering about that too, because in The Pyramid code video they implied that the energy might all head toward the peak. It is possible though that the energy was directed toward a device in the pyramid and that the "vent" shafts might be the direction of travel. I just searched online to see if there was any speculation about the pyramids being used as stargates. The speculation in the following link is that the pyramids were used for astral travel. I prefer the idea that it was a type of stargate portal, because that would tie in with what Atticus said. it appears from the diagram that the "vent" shafts were lined up with the "sarcophagus":
http://www.starseeds.net/forum/topics/the-astral-body-the-star

http://api.ning.com/files/iRVzsoR7Ye019KRlQzoSagpW9wML9ZslZYjj09Ljo2vFIUy33NoUSq4-6OAYPjN3lQHVHBa8crDlWZvFO-Kc4Ycz1Wg1WZf9/chamberaction.jpg

http://paganizingfaithofyeshua.netfirms.com/shafts_pyramid.jpg

[Lazlo]

pp. 63-64
"I have never been persuaded by Sitchin's scholarship...jumped at the chance to see the inscriptions myself in late Nov 2003...again in May 2004...Those examinations convinced me that the cartouches...are indeed ancient and not forgeries by a 19th c English explorer...Portions of the cartouches are obscured by incrustations, unlike the abundant 19th & 20th c grafitti found in the relieving chambers. In addition, it is clear that some of the stones were marked before they were put into place, a sequence of events that rules out a modern forgery...one runs upwards before it is cut off by the chamber's roofing blocks, while another runs downward before it is cut off by the chamber's flooring blocks...Still this may not have been the the second pharoah of the old kingdom's fourth dynasty. Several of the cartouches read not "Khufu" but "Khnum-Khuf". Khnum refers to the primal egyptian god of creation, a diety later identified with Amon. Khuf is a variant spelling of Khufu...The heiroglyphic cartouche for the name Khufu was a powerful charm found on any number of tombs and monuments...many of them accurately dated to long after the fourth dynasty, some as late as a few centuries before christ...The relieving chambers inscriptions don't necessarily prove that Khufu built the great pyramid. They could mean that Khufu was named after the great pyramid, which existed before he did."

Well, this appears to answer one question I had, namely did Schock see the actual marks, or just drawings and diagrams of them. Makes me wonder if Sitchin did, or whether he based his idea on drawings and reports only. I did reread the chapter, and the drawings accompanying the text do show some cartouches cut off by floor or ceiling stones. He makes no mention whether these seem to extend behind those stones, or just conveniently end at that point. I would love to some day visit Egypt and see these things for myself. Until then, I'll have to content myself with reading about it.

When do Schock et al. propose that the pyramids were built? It seems he does not accept Khufu as the builder. For a variety of reasons, I don't accept that view either.

Does he mention any possibility that these 'relieving chambers' were later additions, restorations or repairs, done long after the pyramids were originally built?

Schoch...Pyramid Quest...p293
The preexisting mound was sacred in pre-dynastic times...5000 BCE or earlier and contemporeaneous with the earliest stages of the sphinx

Descending passage and subterranean chamber carved in mid fourth millenium BCE

Core of the lower portion and base up to the floor of the queen's chamber may have been built at around the same time as the descending passage

The rest of it was probably built in fourth dynasty times, possibly by Khufu.

[Richard Gabriel]

Greetings everyone,

It has been a while since we felt we had new evidence from Giza that was important enough to bring to the table. That has all changed with the unfolding evidence we have gathered from repeated visits into part of the underground of Giza via the North Cliff 2 (NC2) tomb system.

Initially this system was re-identified by Nigel Skinner-Simpson and Andrew Collins who tapped into fairly recently published notes of early explorers Henry Salt and Giovanni Caviglia (1817.) Collins, made search visits supported by A.R.E. funding and re-identified the entrance at the back of the ground-level tomb which leads into the enhanced natural tunnel/fissure system going deep down into the Plateau.

There followed a public debacle when Collins went early to Hawass to hail their re-discovery. Hawass knew nothing of the system and denied it, and there ensued a public face-slapping contest with only losers on both sides. Hawass barred the system entrance and produced a fatuous deceptive deceitful movie for public consumption purporting to show the system was un-notable; while Collins churned on the sidelines because the milk had turned sour.

Judith and I were drawn to the system in the middle of all this as a part of our own inexorable journey. The results have been as you may have already read on site as we supplied updating reports, galleries and conclusions.

However these have all been topped with our latest findings which we believe make a case (beyond reasonable doubt,) for the premise of its useful origins being in a time when the Plateau was predominantly jungle filled with exotic animals - and when advanced Afro-Mayan profiled ancestors lived. All of these feature in wall images, paintings and carvings we have found in the system.

Our presentation is very large, with around 480 new pictures and runs to 7 long pages. We would welcome independent opinion and feedback from visitors. We are mindful of the fact that should our photographic analysis technique be validated, or more-so the results... then finally we will have accepted tangible proof that places the whole Plateau and its earliest constructions beyond the reach of the blind STS pharaohphiles.

And incidentally... the same analysis applied to other locations has already revealed clear images of a similar disposition 'within' deep surfaces of the Great Pyramid... but that is going to have to wait for a later full presentation following much more validation work.

Here is the link again
Giza and the NC2 Underground (http://www.richardgabriel.info)

Blessings
Richard and Judith

[sunflower]

Thanks for posting, Richard. I have been telling friends and family about your website and livestream presentation on Camelot. Very interesting.!

[Daft Ada]

Absolutely amazing and incredible Richard, I have been glued to the pictures for hours making out shapes and finding content. The work that has been done on that presentation cannot be disputed and I don't know if Hawas is still anything to do with the Egyptian antiquities, but this will make a complete and utter fool of him, although he is well able to do that for himself. Well done all of you I hope you get the highest recognition.

[RMorgan]

Well, maybe they are just making improvements to the surroundings of the site for touristic reasons. This should be normal, to make this reconstruction at night, so it doesn´t disturb the tourists during the day.

I´m not saying this is the case, but it could be.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Richard Gabriel]

Thank you DA and all others for your kind words.
We have been unable to do substantial quick follow up to the presentation so far due to health issues. (I have never done 'ill' in my life, but I guess by the law of averages everyone gets caught out sometime!) With Judith's help I am trying to get back into the groove now. One thing we expected but not to the extent we have seen, is the deafening silence of general investigative response on the whole subject of NC2. With the wave of initial interest we thought that loads of people would take aspects of the work to pieces with their own investigative ideas and interpretations. There are loads of continuing visits.. but that's all. Goodness knows why? Still, we are still sitting on a bunch more, and as health plus commitments of mundane work allow, hopefully we can load more up and shoot it out to the world. (We are actively seeking new opportunities also for public presentation or interview on the Giza stuff and on - beyond physical explanations.) ..Got some holiday time due and that will help.

Just a quick word RM to say that your comment/suggestion was raised as a main argument against clandestine activity at night during the release of the night video. Of course official work 'is' carried out at night; but in connection with the activities we described, this idea has been hammered into the ground. Refer please to the aged article Shafted on the Giza Plateau (http://richardgabriel.info/SHAFTED%202010.html) where the whole clandestine story throughout 2010 was laid bare.

Please keep some feedback coming folks. We especially want to hear from those who may have spent some time carefully studying the pictorial evidence from the NC2 system.

&PS. On a separate note, we took a 360* movie from the highest point of Gebel Ghibli and we hope we will be able to load that soon to site & UTube.
Everyone will be surprised to see the huge simulacrum - native male head we photographed protruding from the cliff face there.

Blessings
Richard and Judith