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blake
21st September 2012, 17:00
A close friend sent this to me today, asking if I have noticed any similar behavior in the banks in my neck of the woods. I am wondering if any Avalonians have had this experience yet.....

"That lady that I sent the letter to, I stopped by to say hello to. She was upset, because the system she is involved in ripped her off fifty dollars. So I listened to her rant of how she was going to get her fifty bucks back. I wanted to say don't you realize how many tens of thousand of dollars Qe3 is going to personally cost you, and why aren’t you ranting and doing something about that. But I didn't. Americans are trained to go after the small and insignificant, not what is actually hurting their lives in the larger picture.

But today something else happened, an interesting experience to take note of considering what is happening in Italy, and Sweden. Anyway, we went to collect money owed. Even though cash was requested, a check was offered. The offered check was refused, so we went to the bank with the person, a friend, so she could withdraw what was needed to pay the cash owed as previously agreed to.


When the individual entered their bank, the person was just about accosted, as a gentleman zoomed up to her as soon as she entered, asking what business she was there for. When she answered she was there to withdraw some cash. The bank person told her she had better options than withdrawing cash from her account. He strongly suggested that she should do online banking, and transfer the funds from her account to the account to which she owed the money to. He was persistent, but she withdrew the cash anyways. I am wondering how much longer she will have that choice.


I am glad it happened to her, as she was shocked by the experience, and always just minimized the changes happening in the system, never paying attention to the changing times of incrementally controlling more and more of the tracking of all financial transactions, no matter how small. She was always more satisfied with the convenience of electronic banking without ever thinking of eventually not having the choice of using cash or not, nor the crushing implications of what a cashless society would mean to her freedom, her privacy, her health, or her choices in making decisions for her own best interest.


It was fairly recent when we could go to a bank and get an over the counter credit card. You gave the bank a thousand dollars, and they gave you a credit card with a thousand dollars on it to use as one would use any other credit card. Now, some banks just don't do it any more. Another bank said, that to get one of those cards now, as mandated by the federal government, one needs to produce a social security number, identification, proving residential address, and then they do a background check to see if it matches up with the data bases.


So the masses are being overtly tracked. And soon cash will be outlawed. And anyone not in the system will not only have restricted travel, but essentially will not be able to purchase anything, not even food or medicine, all in the name of preventing terrorism, but of course, that is all just a ruse like the war on drugs.


When there is a siege, all those outside of the castle simply has to do to capture those inside the castle is to prevent goods entering the castle, because eventually those in the castle will run out of supplies and die from starvation or dehydration, no bloodshed necessary.


I have watched as totalitarism in America has incrementally advanced over the years. The difference between ten years ago, and today, is that it's right in our face, and no longer at arms length at some distant future confrontation. Unbelievably ignorant and apathetic Americans, over the years, were silent, uninterested witnesses to the incrementally stripping away of all the protection we had against bad government that was provided by the Constitution and the founders of America. And as I just heard on an interview today, all Americans are now boarding a train for Auschwitz. And like the Jews on those trains......................no one is speaking up.


May Freedom Ring, and may Americans open their ears, eyes, and hearts to it before they willing are sheparded into the ovens thinking this could never happen in America, and surely someone will do something about it. Obama hasn't done anything to prevent this Cashless society. Romney won't. So only The People are left to do something about it. Do you think they will? I think I can already smell the burning flesh.

Blessing to your freedom. May you always have choices to do what is in your best interest to do."............

Any other experiences like this?

Sincerely,

Mr. Davis

donk
21st September 2012, 17:10
My buddy had a junkie steal his check book and write out obviously fraudulent checks--they admitted they were not signed by him. He has been in there several time, many calls, and is getting nowhere in getting the fees assessed to his account (that were TAKEN, from his direct deposit paycheck that he is FORCED by his company's payroll system to have), let alone getting the stolen money back.

Apparently the bank is not responsible for receiving completely fraudulent checks and handing the cash to someone it is written out to. You just have to get someone's check, make it out to yourself, go in and cash it. The schmuck you stole the checkbook from pays, the bank tells you sorry bout your luck, oh give us $37 for having an overdrawn account, and go f*ck yourself.

It's getting blatant, shouldn't be long now--collapse of the fraudulent dollar system was waaaay beyond the fuzzy math stage at least a decade ago. Our slavemasters are good at building houses of cards, hidden behind smoke & mirrors.

FREEDOM ISN'T FREE Y'ALL

AriG
21st September 2012, 17:32
Mr. Davis,

Could you clarify the comment " all Americans are boarding a train for Auschwitz"? No doubt you are speaking euphemistically ( if a reference to a Nazi death camp would even qualify as a euphemism ) To what interview are you referring? Do you have a link to share?

Regarding currency - the temporarily necessary evil - something similar to bitcoins without them being co-opted by investors of course, as a means of trading would be the first step in thwarting the impending slavery. Now how would we go about encouraging their use?

And yes, everything is under surveillance including the words that I share with you here. We all take some risk when we join the conversation. A risk worth taking no doubt. I would suggest though, that as important as your concerns are, that there are some really big assaults being expedited that will make concerns about fiat currency versus electronic credits seem elementary. Let me just say that all of this worry about physical control, detention centers, FEMA camps and their like is completely unnecessary. If not stopped, you will do and be exactly as they wish and you won't even know that you're doing it. Please note that this is not "fear porn". This is quite real unfortunately. Given that you are here at Avalon, I am guessing that you are no longer oppressed or that you have never been ( aka awakened). Are you willing to share with me the time frame during which your eyes were opened? If you do respond or would prefer to take the conversation to PM, feel free. I will be away from the forum for about six hours but will respond.

applecrusher1992
21st September 2012, 20:38
A close friend sent this to me today, asking if I have noticed any similar behavior in the banks in my neck of the woods. I am wondering if any Avalonians have had this experience yet.....

"That lady that I sent the letter to, I stopped by to say hello to. She was upset, because the system she is involved in ripped her off fifty dollars. So I listened to her rant of how she was going to get her fifty bucks back. I wanted to say don't you realize how many tens of thousand of dollars Qe3 is going to personally cost you, and why aren’t you ranting and doing something about that. But I didn't. Americans are trained to go after the small and insignificant, not what is actually hurting their lives in the larger picture.

But today something else happened, an interesting experience to take note of considering what is happening in Italy, and Sweden. Anyway, we went to collect money owed. Even though cash was requested, a check was offered. The offered check was refused, so we went to the bank with the person, a friend, so she could withdraw what was needed to pay the cash owed as previously agreed to.


When the individual entered their bank, the person was just about accosted, as a gentleman zoomed up to her as soon as she entered, asking what business she was there for. When she answered she was there to withdraw some cash. The bank person told her she had better options than withdrawing cash from her account. He strongly suggested that she should do online banking, and transfer the funds from her account to the account to which she owed the money to. He was persistent, but she withdrew the cash anyways. I am wondering how much longer she will have that choice.


I am glad it happened to her, as she was shocked by the experience, and always just minimized the changes happening in the system, never paying attention to the changing times of incrementally controlling more and more of the tracking of all financial transactions, no matter how small. She was always more satisfied with the convenience of electronic banking without ever thinking of eventually not having the choice of using cash or not, nor the crushing implications of what a cashless society would mean to her freedom, her privacy, her health, or her choices in making decisions for her own best interest.


It was fairly recent when we could go to a bank and get an over the counter credit card. You gave the bank a thousand dollars, and they gave you a credit card with a thousand dollars on it to use as one would use any other credit card. Now, some banks just don't do it any more. Another bank said, that to get one of those cards now, as mandated by the federal government, one needs to produce a social security number, identification, proving residential address, and then they do a background check to see if it matches up with the data bases.


So the masses are being overtly tracked. And soon cash will be outlawed. And anyone not in the system will not only have restricted travel, but essentially will not be able to purchase anything, not even food or medicine, all in the name of preventing terrorism, but of course, that is all just a ruse like the war on drugs.


When there is a siege, all those outside of the castle simply has to do to capture those inside the castle is to prevent goods entering the castle, because eventually those in the castle will run out of supplies and die from starvation or dehydration, no bloodshed necessary.


I have watched as totalitarism in America has incrementally advanced over the years. The difference between ten years ago, and today, is that it's right in our face, and no longer at arms length at some distant future confrontation. Unbelievably ignorant and apathetic Americans, over the years, were silent, uninterested witnesses to the incrementally stripping away of all the protection we had against bad government that was provided by the Constitution and the founders of America. And as I just heard on an interview today, all Americans are now boarding a train for Auschwitz. And like the Jews on those trains......................no one is speaking up.


May Freedom Ring, and may Americans open their ears, eyes, and hearts to it before they willing are sheparded into the ovens thinking this could never happen in America, and surely someone will do something about it. Obama hasn't done anything to prevent this Cashless society. Romney won't. So only The People are left to do something about it. Do you think they will? I think I can already smell the burning flesh.

Blessing to your freedom. May you always have choices to do what is in your best interest to do."............

Any other experiences like this?

Sincerely,

Mr. Davis

I remember the previous bank I went to I ask for a withdrawal of a couple of thousand of dollars. She asked me for my id to make sure I was who I said I was. But then she said she had to get approval from the manager before she could proceed. It was approved quickly but the fact that she asked me that was bad. I inquired more about why and she said it had something to do with the account under my parent's name as well. This is was true that I started the account under my parents name but I have was 20 at this time and received full ownership of it. I don't know how long left until we can't go to the bank to receive our cash but I hope not soon.

GloriousPoetry
21st September 2012, 22:32
I stopped using a bank back in 2007. I cash all of my paychecks at a liquor store and keep my money inside the "The Egyptian Book of the Dead." The whole banking system is corrupted and I don't know what I am going to do when cash is no longer used.

WhiteFeather
21st September 2012, 23:21
Its becoming an electrical dollar now so it seems. The All Wirey Dollar. Banks don't carry that kind of cash anymore. Money out of thin air.

Flash
22nd September 2012, 00:29
Well, our new dollars in Canada, are either electronic or plastic. The funny story is that the new hundred dollar plastic bill started being used this summer and some people forgot the bill under intense summer heat (ex: the car's dashboard) and the dollar melted. True story.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/canada-plastic-50-100-bills-melting-heat-reports-192741119.html

18321

mosquito
22nd September 2012, 02:28
Where I live I can :

- Open a bank account with ONE piece of identification and NO proof of address,
- Obtain a credit card in the same way, with no "backkground" checks, (the process wasn't without pains, but these are more due to local incomptenece than to fascism)
- Pay cash into my account, withdraw cash from my account AS I PLEASE, without the government being notified of my activity,
- Watch other people pay in very large sums of cash and similarly withdraw very large sums of cash. AND NO ONE BATS AN EYELID !!!
- Pay for EVERYTHING and ANYTHING in cash, regardless of its' price
- (just for good measure) tape a 100 yuan note to my back, walk around town for 3 hours, and then get home to find it still there.

These are among the many many many freeedoms I wouldn't have if I still lived in "the free world".

Paul
22nd September 2012, 03:04
Where I live I can :
I'm jealous :).

Flash
22nd September 2012, 03:06
Where I live I can :

- Open a bank account with ONE piece of identification and NO proof of address,
- Obtain a credit card in the same way, with no "backkground" checks, (the process wasn't without pains, but these are more due to local incomptenece than to fascism)
- Pay cash into my account, withdraw cash from my account AS I PLEASE, without the government being notified of my activity,
- Watch other people pay in very large sums of cash and similarly withdraw very large sums of cash. AND NO ONE BATS AN EYELID !!!
- Pay for EVERYTHING and ANYTHING in cash, regardless of its' price
- (just for good measure) tape a 100 yuan note to my back, walk around town for 3 hours, and then get home to find it still there.

These are among the many many many freeedoms I wouldn't have if I still lived in "the free world".

Ironic isn't it! And here we live with blinders on thinking that it is much worst elsewhere.

Paul
22nd September 2012, 03:18
Where I live I can :
Is it true, mariposafe, what I recall reading somewhere recently, that the national government of China issues it's own currency, debt free, without "borrowing" it from the money lenders?

If so, that would be one of the most stunningly convincing reasons to suspect that the Banksters of Babylon, Egypt, Macedonia, Rome, Holland, London, New York (over the last several millenia) are not in control of China's monetary system.

That would be good news. If we can avoid planet wide devastation or another great dark age on this planet, while preserving most of our civilization's advances and at the same time thwarting the efforts of these Banksters of Babylon (http://amzn.com/1932595791) to gain complete control of humanity and this planet, that would be most excellent.

(Maybe I should consider converting some of my savings into Yuan ?)

ghostrider
22nd September 2012, 03:20
money is only credit. zeros on a computer.

RunningDeer
22nd September 2012, 03:25
Well, our new dollars in Canada, are either electronic or plastic. The funny story is that the new hundred dollar plastic bill started being used this summer and some people forgot the bill under intense summer heat (ex: the car's dashboard) and the dollar melted. True story.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/canada-plastic-50-100-bills-melting-heat-reports-192741119.html

18321

My mind is walking on the dark side this evening. What else is the 'polymer bank notes' laced with? And I wonder if Canada has chemtrail coins, too? http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/big-smile2-smiley.gif (http://emoticoner.com)

CdnSirian
22nd September 2012, 03:47
WCBD. Re Canada's money - specifically coins - wish I could find the thread about the alien in the canoe (on the coin). Oh! Found this...

1VNBSFb6g-c

They left out the chemtrails by mistake...:alien:

oh bad sound on this one...sorry.

Re banking...my bank has been sold so many times the current management is still trying to please people.

RunningDeer
22nd September 2012, 04:02
WCBD. Re Canada's money - specifically coins - wish I could find the thread about the alien in the canoe (on the coin). Oh! Found this...

1VNBSFb6g-c

They left out the chemtrails by mistake...:alien:

oh bad sound on this one...sorry.

Re banking...my bank has been sold so many times the current management is still trying to please people.

Oh, my Gawd...ballsy. (sp?)http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/delete2-smiley.gif?1292867581 Like I said, I'm walkin' the dark side tonight. And loving it!http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/yapyapyap-smiley.gif (http://emoticoner.com)

Spelling is correct. I looked it up and here I thought I was swearing. Oh, nuts!

............................Going, going, gone .......................................http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smiley_faces/biker-smiley-face.gif (http://emoticoner.com)

mosquito
22nd September 2012, 05:41
Is it true, mariposafe, what I recall reading somewhere recently, that the national government of China issues it's own currency, debt free, without "borrowing" it from the money lenders?



Hi Paul, As far as I know that's completely true, but obviously can't guarantee it !! ;) I've always been suspicious when people have claimed that China has a Rothschild owned central bank, the evidence before my eyes suggests otherwise. While Europe and the USA are gearing up fo a cash-free society, I can't see that happening here for at least another 20 years. Chinese people use cash, period.

If the banks here were to treat their customers with the same arrogance that Western banks treat theirs, there'd be a riot !!

Having worked for a large bank (sorry, they aren't banks anymore are they, they're "financial institutions") prior to leaving Britain, I can assure everyone that they've completely lost any understanding of the true relationship between bank and customer. I wish people would reempower themselves and move their money to institutions who understand that said money belongs to the customer, and behave towards them in a suitably respectful manner.

As for investing in RMB, yes it's probably not a bad idea, along with Hong Kong Dollars and Swiss Francs. (Not that I'm an authority on money matters ;))

Philip

Dawn
22nd September 2012, 06:21
Interesting posts. Almost everything I do is done in cash these days. It is easy to withdraw cash from my Credit Union. The United States Post Office always offers to give me cash to spend from my debit cards when I go there to mail things. I do not use credit cards any more.

I have had the strange experience of waiting for my Credit Union to notify Homeland Security when I have purchased something for a large sum with a cashiers check last year... that was a little weird. Somewhere in some government computer is a record that I opened a bank account in another country with this money.

Anyway... these days all is cash in my life and there is no problem... And I live in the good ol' USA

The Royal Wizard
22nd September 2012, 08:22
Interesting thread, not at least how things work in China. I know all to little about China, obviously. But I'm curious; what's happening in Sweden and Italy in this regard?

Fred Steeves
22nd September 2012, 09:19
If you want to see red alert go off at even a major bank, just go in and ask for $2,000 of your own money. In cash.

AriG
22nd September 2012, 10:23
If you want to see red alert go off at even a major bank, just go in and ask for $2,000 of your own money. In cash.

Its a fear of a run on the banks, similar to the Great Depression isn't it.

Fred Steeves
22nd September 2012, 10:49
If you want to see red alert go off at even a major bank, just go in and ask for $2,000 of your own money. In cash.

Its a fear of a run on the banks, similar to the Great Depression isn't it.

I think it's even more basic than that AriG. Here's the dirty little secret. Banks simply don't have much cash on hand in the first place any more. These armored trucks we see driving around are just part of the illusion too. People would be floored at how little most of them are actually carrying at any given time.

araucaria
22nd September 2012, 13:03
Interesting thread, not at least how things work in China. I know all to little about China, obviously. But I'm curious; what's happening in Sweden and Italy in this regard?

I agree. Here in France (sorry, wrong country :) ), if you want more cash than you can get out of the wall, there are two or three time slots in the week when they send you into the secure area behind the Diebold machines ;)
As Fred says, the security is a mask for the impoverished cash situation.

My main gripe however would be the way they behave as if it were their money they are dishing out, not yours. A bit like Bill Gates welcoming me onto my own computer in the morning.

T Smith
22nd September 2012, 13:13
A close friend sent this to me today, asking if I have noticed any similar behavior in the banks in my neck of the woods. I am wondering if any Avalonians have had this experience yet.....


Even though cash was requested, a check was offered. The offered check was refused, so we went to the bank with the person, a friend, so she could withdraw what was needed to pay the cash owed as previously agreed to.



Hello Mr. Davis,

Do you know what bank this was?

T Smith
22nd September 2012, 13:38
Interesting posts. Almost everything I do is done in cash these days. It is easy to withdraw cash from my Credit Union. The United States Post Office always offers to give me cash to spend from my debit cards when I go there to mail things. I do not use credit cards any more.

I have had the strange experience of waiting for my Credit Union to notify Homeland Security when I have purchased something for a large sum with a cashiers check last year... that was a little weird. Somewhere in some government computer is a record that I opened a bank account in another country with this money.

Anyway... these days all is cash in my life and there is no problem... And I live in the good ol' USA

By law, the credit union has to report any transaction 10,000.00 and more to the IRS, and I imagine any other interested alphabet agency has access to this information as well.

blake
22nd September 2012, 13:47
Interesting thread, not at least how things work in China. I know all to little about China, obviously. But I'm curious; what's happening in Sweden and Italy in this regard?

Hello Royal Wizard,

Sweden appears to be leading the way in the cashless society. Their buses will not take cash, and neither will some of their banks. I have read that only three percent of its financial tranactions are in cash, such as tips and buying candy bars; but they are working on eliminating that too.

Italy , perhaps last winter, I can't quite remember, issued that no cash payments of more than one thousand euros would be allowed. But recent rulings have now dictated the cap on cash will now be only fifty euros starting in 2013. One can't pay rent or do much with fifty euros.

Sincerely,

Mr Davis

blake
22nd September 2012, 14:33
Hello AriG,

There is much happening in this world of humans and commerce that needs to be monitored if one is to stay as free and safe as possible. And Mother Nature certainly brings complications and challenges as well. So I am not sure which of the many issues you are referring to that will be pale in comparison to the seemingly imminent cashless society. But do please share your opinion and information.

There are various barometers that can be skillfully used to keep track of the changing weather and storms. The barometer I am most comfortable with is money. Watch what is happening to money, and one can, I believe, have a good idea and timing as to when to make moves, or to secure and put in place what is necessity for one’s own best interest, which is unique for all.

There is much disinformation and opinions that must be sifted through. I have respect for all well thought out opinions, and information that others like to share. However, for how I process information, usually following the “money” trail, watching what “money” is doing, or is being done with, is usually the quickest and most reliable barometer for me in sifting through the deluge of information out there.

I usually look for a change, no matter how slight from the usual pattern of activity, for as you well know, incremental measures have been at play. But also there can be broad leaps, and overnight changes. I think the incremental pattern is over, and I am now looking for changes in activity that could signal the imminent possibility of an abrupt or even overnight change.

When my friend shared his experience with that large bank, I am now looking to see if this is just an isolated experience, or if there is an organized push to give immediate one to one tutelage to banking customers to stop withdrawing cash.


Sincerely,

Mr. Davis

Flash
22nd September 2012, 14:40
If you want to see red alert go off at even a major bank, just go in and ask for $2,000 of your own money. In cash.

Its a fear of a run on the banks, similar to the Great Depression isn't it.

No here in Canada they say it is to avoid whitewashing money (oh, laundering in English, not whitewashing - this is a direct translation from French), avoid laundering money from illegal stuff such as drugs and mafia. In other words, only the rich can launder their money. lol

Flash
22nd September 2012, 14:44
Hello AriG,

There is much happening in this world of humans and commerce that needs to be monitored if one is to stay as free and safe as possible. And Mother Nature certainly brings complications and challenges as well. So I am not sure which of the many issues you are referring to that will be pale in comparison to the seemingly imminent cashless society. But do please share your opinion and information.

There are various barometers that can be skillfully used to keep track of the changing weather and storms. The barometer I am most comfortable with is money. Watch what is happening to money, and one can, I believe, have a good idea and timing as to when to make moves, or to secure and put in place what is necessity for one’s own best interest, which is unique for all.

There is much disinformation and opinions that must be sifted through. I have respect for all well thought out opinions, and information that others like to share. However, for how I process information, usually following the “money” trail, watching what “money” is doing, or is being done with, is usually the quickest and most reliable barometer for me in sifting through the deluge of information out there.

I usually look for a change, no matter how slight from the usual pattern of activity, for as you well know, incremental measures have been at play. But also there can be broad leaps, and overnight changes. I think the incremental pattern is over, and I am now looking for changes in activity that could signal the imminent possibility of an abrupt or even overnight change.

When my friend shared his experience with that large bank, I am now looking to see if this is just an isolated experience, or if there is an organized push to give immediate one to one tutelage to banking customers to stop withdrawing cash.


Sincerely,

Mr. Davis

It is a pattern to push us towards electonic money. I am being called about every 3 month by my bank to ask me why I do not do internet banking. Or show me how to do it. When I tell them that I had some of their security specialist on some group I worked with, and they told me how it truly was in terms of security, I followed their advice and do not do internet banking. Not not to be traced, the PTB could have other means, but because the security is not that secure at all. And refund when stolen electronically can take a lot of time and may be almost unprovable. If you would have heard the stories I heard, no internet banking. So, when I say that, agents stop insisting. 3 months later, another call....

Go at the counter, a gentle reminder about electronic banking, even when I tell them that this will make them lose their job...

blake
22nd September 2012, 14:55
A close friend sent this to me today, asking if I have noticed any similar behavior in the banks in my neck of the woods. I am wondering if any Avalonians have had this experience yet.....


Even though cash was requested, a check was offered. The offered check was refused, so we went to the bank with the person, a friend, so she could withdraw what was needed to pay the cash owed as previously agreed to.



Hello Mr. Davis,

Do you know what bank this was?

Hello T Smith,

I beleive it was TD Bank. They do have strong online practices. But still, the aggressive tactic of approaching a customer just walking through the door was more than a bit much. It could have been just an overanxious employee; it could have just been that one bank. But still, it was quite ununsual. I am hoping if other Avalonians expereince similar bank employee behavior, or hear of similar banking behavior that they will share it here.

Sincerely,

Mr. Davis

blake
22nd September 2012, 15:09
Hello AriG,

There is much happening in this world of humans and commerce that needs to be monitored if one is to stay as free and safe as possible. And Mother Nature certainly brings complications and challenges as well. So I am not sure which of the many issues you are referring to that will be pale in comparison to the seemingly imminent cashless society. But do please share your opinion and information.

There are various barometers that can be skillfully used to keep track of the changing weather and storms. The barometer I am most comfortable with is money. Watch what is happening to money, and one can, I believe, have a good idea and timing as to when to make moves, or to secure and put in place what is necessity for one’s own best interest, which is unique for all.

There is much disinformation and opinions that must be sifted through. I have respect for all well thought out opinions, and information that others like to share. However, for how I process information, usually following the “money” trail, watching what “money” is doing, or is being done with, is usually the quickest and most reliable barometer for me in sifting through the deluge of information out there.

I usually look for a change, no matter how slight from the usual pattern of activity, for as you well know, incremental measures have been at play. But also there can be broad leaps, and overnight changes. I think the incremental pattern is over, and I am now looking for changes in activity that could signal the imminent possibility of an abrupt or even overnight change.

When my friend shared his experience with that large bank, I am now looking to see if this is just an isolated experience, or if there is an organized push to give immediate one to one tutelage to banking customers to stop withdrawing cash.


Sincerely,

Mr. Davis

It is a pattern to push us towards electonic money. I am being called about every 3 month by my bank to ask me why I do not do internet banking. Or show me how to do it. When I tell them that I had some of their security specialist on some group I worked with, and they told me how it truly was in terms of security, I followed their advice and do not do internet banking. Not not to be traced, the PTB could have other means, but because the security is not that secure at all. And refund when stolen electronically can take a lot of time and may be almost unprovable. If you would have heard the stories I heard, no internet banking. So, when I say that, agents stop insisting. 3 months later, another call....

Go at the counter, a gentle reminder about electronic banking, even when I tell them that this will make them lose their job...

Thank you, Flash

That information was very helpful to me; and I shall pass it along to my friend. I dropped out of banking years ago, so I am not current to their way of how they interact with their customers now.

Sincerely,

Mr. Davis

araucaria
22nd September 2012, 15:13
We are in the end game of a game of Monopoly, which always struck me as a game of monotony. It long ago became abundantly clear who was going to win, and the process of raking in everyone's last cent is painfully drawn out. Like on the monopoly board, as urban sprawl increases, you cannot go anywhere without trespassing on private property and paying through the nose. The only safe haven is jail.

Some of us are getting ready to sweep up the game altogether and set the table for dinner :)

Paul
22nd September 2012, 16:27
By law, the credit union has to report any transaction 10,000.00 and more to the IRS, and I imagine any other interested alphabet agency has access to this information as well.
The Bank Secrecy Act (BSA) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_Secrecy_Act) requires financial institutions to file reports with the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) of the US Department of the Treasury (http://www.fincen.gov/) for cash and cash equivalent transactions that exceed $10,000 either individually, or in related transactions that might be structured in a possible attempt to avoid these reporting requirements.

The BSA also requires financial institutions to report in less detail such transactions exceeding $3,000,
individuals to report foreign accounts exceeding $10,000 in value at any time in the year,
individuals to report any transfer of $10,000 or more in cash or equivalents in or out of the country, and
any business receiving cash payments exceeding $10,000 to report it.
Financial service businesses are also required to file Suspicious Activity Reports (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicious_activity_report) for suspicious or potentially suspicious activity exceeding $5,000.

The above is "give or take" some details ... I'm not an expert in this.

Earth Angel
22nd September 2012, 16:46
I remember when I worked for a large Toronto bank in the 1980's and the "Green Machine" was introduced......ie ATM........we were told to push it on every customer that came to the wicket to do their banking......many of them would not do it, say cute things like " then I wouldn't get to see your pretty face".......but some were smart enough to say Why would you want to push me to do something that will end up taking your job??".........big contests were held where we were rewarded for getting the most people to sign up for the cards......and yes we were doing ourselves out of a job.



[QUOTE=blake;557562]Hello AriG,



It is a pattern to push us towards electonic money. I am being called about every 3 month by my bank to ask me why I do not do internet banking. Or show me how to do it. When I tell them that I had some of their security specialist on some group I worked with, and they told me how it truly was in terms of security, I followed their advice and do not do internet banking. Not not to be traced, the PTB could have other means, but because the security is not that secure at all. And refund when stolen electronically can take a lot of time and may be almost unprovable. If you would have heard the stories I heard, no internet banking. So, when I say that, agents stop insisting. 3 months later, another call....

Go at the counter, a gentle reminder about electronic banking, even when I tell them that this will make them lose their job...

Paul
22nd September 2012, 21:32
Hi Paul, As far as I know that's completely true, but obviously can't guarantee it !! ;) I've always been suspicious when people have claimed that China has a Rothschild owned central bank, the evidence before my eyes suggests otherwise.
I suspect you're right -- not Rothschild owned.

But, perhaps Rothschild-like with Chinese characteristics ?

See the latest Red Ice interview Sterling Seagrave - Hour 1 - The Secret History of Asia & Gold Warriors (http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2012/09/RIR-120920.php) for a hint of what I am suspecting, that the Orient may have its own "bastards in power", also families with long histories, who may be competing now with the Western bastards in power for world domination.

kcbc2010
22nd September 2012, 21:55
Can anyone say "Patriot Act"?

Yes, these regulations are the norm because the Feds watch large transfers of cash to see if you are part of a terrorist organization or to see if you are dodging your US taxes (if you claim American citizenship overseas).

I worked at a brokerage firm when these laws were just getting implemented (2002-2003) and customers had to sign releases and acknowledgements about how their transactions would be investigated if they were over a certain amount. The interesting thing is that I remember only one customer complaining about it at the time.

I can see how people would be concerned these days about a bank run, but it's more about the government trying to protect us from 'terrorists'.

(Though, I must admit that I'm still upset that the guy who owned the La Shish (middle eastern food) restaurants here in Michigan, got caught laundering money and sending large sums back to terrorist organizations in Lebanon (I think it was). They had good food. Still, he's the only person who I've heard of getting caught because of these laws....)

gripreaper
22nd September 2012, 22:42
Hi Paul, As far as I know that's completely true, but obviously can't guarantee it !! ;) I've always been suspicious when people have claimed that China has a Rothschild owned central bank, the evidence before my eyes suggests otherwise.
I suspect you're right -- not Rothschild owned.

But, perhaps Rothschild-like with Chinese characteristics ?

See the latest Red Ice interview Sterling Seagrave - Hour 1 - The Secret History of Asia & Gold Warriors (http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2012/09/RIR-120920.php) for a hint of what I am suspecting, that the Orient may have its own "bastards in power", also families with long histories, who may be competing now with the Western bastards in power for world domination.

Interesting hypothesis. So, the idea that the Ancient Asian Dynastic Families are benevolent and in opposition to the cabal, and have the highest interest of humanity at heart, could be a psy-op?

InTheBackground
23rd September 2012, 01:28
It is a pattern to push us towards electonic money. I am being called about every 3 month by my bank to ask me why I do not do internet banking.

Every time they call me, I tell them I'm going back to writing checks because I'm trying to save the post office. :p

blake
23rd September 2012, 14:57
I stopped using a bank back in 2007. I cash all of my paychecks at a liquor store and keep my money inside the "The Egyptian Book of the Dead." The whole banking system is corrupted and I don't know what I am going to do when cash is no longer used.

Hello gloriouspoetry,

How wonderful that you made the huge decision to cut ties with the banking system by refusing to patronize them. I know it is not always convenient, but I also try hard not to patronize that which hurts me, or hurts society. I stopped patronizing banks years ago. I also don’t patronize the supermarkets. Instead, I buy from local farmers, and local food producers who practice healthy agriculture, and food processing methods. I must say though, it is a lot easier to stop patronizing big chain stores than it is the big banks which are nothing more , as you well know, than long arm thugs of the federal government.

The cashless society is coming to America fast and furious. So you are wise to start thinking what you will do when we go completely cashless. I think when the financial crash comes, which, in my opinion is getting pretty high up on the horizon, those holding cash will need to work quickly to reorganize their purchasing methods. I am pretty sure that when tptb introduces the new financial system, cash will be illegal, even in small sums. Anyone caught, or even accused of not using their digital money will be labeled a terrorist, and find a swat team in their face.

Those not patronizing the banks now need to put thought, and energy into strategizing how to safely continue to stay out of the their controlling, manipulating, strangled-hold system, which will be even more challenging than it is now.

So what is it like using cash in Mexico? Is it as easy as it is in China?

Sincerely,

Mr. Davis

we-R-one
29th September 2012, 00:26
Well here's my banking experience for today, you guys will get a rise out of this.......So I went to a U.S. Bank branch to cash a check from a friend. The teller was polite and happily assisted in completing my transaction. As she was finalizing and counting out the money, she asked if I would consider opening up an account with U.S. Bank......very firmly I stated, "No, I'm sorry, but I don't do business with a bank who participates in fradulent activities such as illegally foreclosing homes on their clients and illegally selling homes in which they have no legal ownership." At that moment, you could have heard a pin drop as the other customers and tellers within ear range looked at me with interest. The teller didn't know what to do with me and smart move on her part, didn't ask any further questions and gave me a polite, but quick "have a nice day." I can hardly wait to go in there again to cash another check. LMAO

See Bevilacqua v. Rodriguez 2011

http://www.boston.com/realestate/news/blogs/renow/2011/10/bevilacqua_v_ro.html