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Chip
1st October 2012, 07:06
Hello
I am curious if anyone else has been following Clif High's work and more specifically if anyone has read his latest and final ALTA report?
It paints a dark portrait in explicit detail of the very near "earth changes" in 2013. I found it to be eerily similar (almost exact) to the remote viewing experiments that The Farsight Institute performed earlier this year for 2013 .
For those not in the "know" regarding Clifs work go to:http://Halfpasthuman.com
Here you can learn the "how" and get a copy.
Note: He asks for a $10 dollar donation but "those with the right Qi" can ask for a free copy.

ViralSpiral
1st October 2012, 09:59
Note: He asks for a $10 dollar donation but "those with the right Qi" can ask for a free copy.

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I hopped off of the fear-porn bus a while back.
Thanks for the post though and welcome to the forum Chipsam

indigopete
1st October 2012, 10:16
I hopped off of the fear-porn bus a while back.

Don't be scared. :scared: There's actually quite a lot of very interesting discussion about geophysics and the origin of matter.

Apart from anything else, Vinny Eastwood will give you a few laughs and keep your pants dry :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GTSPjdByDQ

Pete

ViralSpiral
1st October 2012, 10:41
Don't be scared. :scared: There's actually quite a lot of very interesting discussion about geophysics and the origin of matter.

Apart from anything else, Vinny Eastwood will give you a few laughs and keep your pants dry :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GTSPjdByDQ

Pete


*chortles into her beard*


Thanks for the post Pete, and the link. Will listen later. As I posted in a pm, to Chipsam earlier:

I used to read all of Clif's material as I enjoyed his perspective and style
When I call it fear porn its more tongue in cheek as have been following him for a long while. Its just not on my radar any longer
I loved what he wrote about: the right Qi
Typical of his humour


thanks again

ViralSpiral
2nd October 2012, 07:08
Hi Pete

Wanted to give you some feedback

I listened to the report/link you posted.
Clif's talk about earth expansion and preparedness is pragmatic and engaging..
As he says: "I'd much rather know that I have an obstacle and deal with it as a challenge, than to be in denial."

Thanks again

Cognitive Dissident
5th October 2012, 07:00
I used to think Clif High was too "out there" based only on some of his written material - then I listened to an interview he gave, I think on Red Ice, and he was obviously very intelligent and thoughtful - maybe his sense of humour gives the wrong impression. Anyway, I have downloaded the latest report from him but will need to print it as I am not going to read 59 pages of pdf on screen!

As for the "fear porn" thing, I would put all those who say Dec 21, 2012, is a time at which there will be terrible earth changes, etc., into that basket.

However, it is possible to think rationally about the future, even if those thoughts are "negative", without being "fear porn". For example, we now live in an interglacial period which is longer than average, suggesting a new ice age may begin - albeit slowly - at any time. Or, the methane clathrates locked up in the Artic permafrost may start melting, leading to major greenhouse warming effects. Or, humanity is using up/destroying the earth's natural resources so quickly that the planet may not be able to support future life and we need to do something about this NOW...

None of that is fear porn, although it may be seen as "negative", it could also be seen as a call to action.

If possible, evaluate rationally and take appropriate action. Do not let the information create an imbalance in your day to day life (I'm talking to myself here!). I'll post again after I have read the "final" Clif High report.

Edit to add: I have just listened to Bill and Kerry's comments on future events in the second hour of this radio show - worth listening to IMHO.

http://projectavalon.net/Kerry_Cassidy_Bill_Ryan_Jim_Marrs_Richard_Dolan_Pa ul_Price_3_October_2012_Gordon_Novel_Tribute_show. mp3

Cognitive Dissident
7th October 2012, 14:01
OK, I have read the final HPH report - very interesting. But here's the thing, or two.

First off, how is HPH's track record on predictions? I'm aware of the "blondes on boats" hit, but is there any thing else, or anything else? If not, it doesn't really add much to the Farsight predictions (which HPH cite in support of its predictions).

Second, as the report says, if this all happens in 2013 then the environment is going to only be suitable for very radiation-tolerant creatures. Very, very radiation-tolerant. Because probably all of the nuclear power stations world-wide would melt down, releasing huge quantities of radioactive material into the environment. I would guess, of similar magnitude to the consequences of a nuclear war. So, if this does happen, there is not much any of us can do, other than getting off-planet or living deep underground for a long time (probably decades).

So, in terms of predictions, if you see a global emergency shut-down of all the nuclear power stations world-wide around about the end of this year, or later, then that is strong support of the HGH predictions. Otherwise, all the underground bunkers that Russia and China may or may not be building on an emergency basis, will not be much use. SpaceGoatFarts or no SpaceGoatFarts, hehehehe.

I am assuming that the PTB at some level are aware of this incoming event, if indeed it is incoming.

On a related point, the HGH report states that the PTB "(for some reason) have to inform beforehand", just as Charles told Bill back in 2010 (and I think this was probably true, unlike many things he said). So if we see an increase in disaster-memes in the MSM later this year, that would be another reason to worry, although not conclusive, unless the nuclear shutdown happens at the same time.

Finally, the HGH report mentions the "Earth expansion" theory, which I had never heard of before - it sound intriguing, and I will have to look into this further.

Operator
7th October 2012, 15:48
Finally, the HGH report mentions the "Earth expansion" theory, which I had never heard of before - it sound intriguing, and I will have to look into this further.

Yes, provoking thought ... I think it is crazy to think that Pangaea was one continent and the rest of the globe one big ocean and
then it drifted all kind of directions forming the continents of today.

Also if the universe is expanding then why not earth ?

I wonder if it happens "popcorn like" ... tension rises slowly but at a critical level it pops :p

mountain_jim
7th October 2012, 15:50
I looked into some of the Farsight Institute's presented raw data, as well as Brown's Jesus project raw data, and to my (admittedly amateur) eyes it appeared to me that like in a Rorschach test, Courtney Brown 'saw' what he wanted to or expected to 'see' in his data (drawings, sketches, various symbols and text from the remote 'viewers'), and his intepretations and conclusions are quite suspect as far as I am concerned.

I have found the 'expanding earth' theory to be an interesting one, suppported by some data as I recall, but have not looked into recently.

gripreaper
7th October 2012, 16:42
Courney Brown 'saw' what he wanted to or expected to 'see' in his data.

Bingo, we have a winner. Bias comes into all energy which we direct, or draw towards us. This is the nature of creation, to emanate energy and to attract same.

So, for example, if one's root chakra is pulled up out of the earth and vibrating out of balance, and the energy being is vibrating in fear, and this energy is judged to have a certain context and meaning, than that will be the filter through which the energy passes.

The heart is the great transducer, which is the energy in all things, and it brings balance to all things. Until we learn to move from the mind to the heart, and filter through the heart, then the context will always have a bias.

sdv
7th October 2012, 18:56
I looked into some of the Farsight Institute's presented raw data, as well as Brown's Jesus project raw data, and to my (admittedly amateur) eyes it appeared to me that like in a Rorschach test, Courney Brown 'saw' what he wanted to or expected to 'see' in his data (drawings, sketches, various symbols and text from the remote 'viewers'), and his intepretations and conclusions are quite suspect as far as I am concerned.

I came to the same conclusion after looking at all his data. I especially found his interpretation of the African data to be misinterpretation (coming from Africa).

Delight
7th October 2012, 19:09
Courney Brown 'saw' what he wanted to or expected to 'see' in his data.

Bingo, we have a winner. Bias comes into all energy which we direct, or draw towards us. This is the nature of creation, to emanate energy and to attract same.

So, for example, if one's root chakra is pulled up out of the earth and vibrating out of balance, and the energy being is vibrating in fear, and this energy is judged to have a certain context and meaning, than that will be the filter through which the energy passes.

The heart is the great transducer, which is the energy in all things, and it brings balance to all things. Until we learn to move from the mind to the heart, and filter through the heart, then the context will always have a bias.

Courtney Brown had an interview on Redice about his findings. He presented scary anticipation for earth changes viewed in June 2013. Henrik asked if there had been further RV for the source of the changes. He denied that any research was done about events leading to the change.

Say what?
Does that make sense?

Something so BIG that it would effect all timelines as he states and they leave off looking?
I felt this could not be plausible. Seriously, a human being found an ELE without investigating further?
To me, this is just not credible and so I call him incredible.

Dennis Jonathan
7th October 2012, 20:27
Say what you will about remote viewing, but Courtney Browns controls are too many to presume "he saw what he wanted to"

If you had read the report, this would be obvious to you.

gripreaper
7th October 2012, 21:26
Say what you will about remote viewing, but Courtney Browns controls are too many to presume "he saw what he wanted to"

If you had read the report, this would be obvious to you.

Nothing is obvious. Everything requires discernment. Yes, I have listened to several Courtney Brown video's and read numerous reports in regards to his studies, and yes, he has protocols in place so that there cannot be discrepancies or falsehoods, but that does not make it so.

I have also read Ingo Swan's book, followed Ed Dames and the original group of 5 who were commissioned in the original remote viewing commission by the government, as well as the ancient sages who consider remote viewing one of the Siddhis practices of a high initiate.

I don't subscribe to the "extinction level event" memes which are being put out. The future is malleable based on consciousness, and there is definitely bias in the viewer. How can there not be?

So, although you may consider this information new and fascinating, don't assume that others have not done their due diligence on the subject.

janus
7th October 2012, 22:11
In the following video, Clif High's Wujo from July 23rd, Clif discusses the parallel findings of Farsight.org to his own bot reports....fwiw...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vaik1DDRHrs

Warlock
7th October 2012, 22:34
I got the report.

Very interesting, but I'm only on page 28.

Not for those who are weak in heart and mind. :behindsofa:

Warlock

janus
7th October 2012, 23:45
I find the reports to be very condensed and therefore sounding much worse than may occur irl.

I have read this latest report and need to read it again...some parts seemingly contradict what was said on previous pages.

Warlock
8th October 2012, 01:34
I find the reports to be very condensed and therefore sounding much worse than may occur irl.

I have read this latest report and need to read it again...some parts seemingly contradict what was said on previous pages.

Yes, I do agree, especially with the contradicting point.

We will just have to see how things pan out.

Warlock

sdv
8th October 2012, 06:26
Nothing is obvious. Everything requires discernment. Yes, I have listened to several Courtney Brown video's and read numerous reports in regards to his studies, and yes, he has protocols in place so that there cannot be discrepancies or falsehoods, but that does not make it so.

I have also read Ingo Swan's book, followed Ed Dames and the original group of 5 who were commissioned in the original remote viewing commission by the government, as well as the ancient sages who consider remote viewing one of the Siddhis practices of a high initiate.

I don't subscribe to the "extinction level event" memes which are being put out. The future is malleable based on consciousness, and there is definitely bias in the viewer. How can there not be?

So, although you may consider this information new and fascinating, don't assume that others have not done their due diligence on the subject.

Gripreaper, I have not done as much study as you have done on the subject and it would be great if you could share more.

With the little bit of research I have done, my conclusion is that the RV experience and interpretation of such is very much influenced by the person's belief system, and that the results are spot on when the RV exercise is very much aligned with the person's belief system. Or am I incorrect and it is the interpretation that is influenced and not the RV experience itself (when you are supposed to use meditation to get past ego and enter uiversal consciousness?).

:wave:

PS


Say what you will about remote viewing, but Courtney Browns controls are too many to presume "he saw what he wanted to"

If you had read the report, this would be obvious to you.

By the way Dennis, I not only read the report, but also looked at every piece of data on which the report was based (and read the two books that Courtney Brown had written about RV to try to understand the process). It is what was extrapolated from the data that is in question. For example, as an African living in Africa, I would not have extrapolated the same data as he did for the two places that were remote viewed in Africa. (In fact, salty lakes forming inland during the wet season are a normal annual event, but he interprets the salt water sensed around Mount Kilimanjaro as a tsunami. And that is not the only point of discrepancy I have with his interpretation.)

eileenrose
8th October 2012, 08:37
I found another remote viewer posting future visions.

Link: http://psychicfocus.blogspot.com/

Here is one reading she did (and I notice she does get different future readings...maybe depends on which future she sees....as I feel their are multiple possiblities)

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Q. "Are we soon entering a 3rd world war? ....etc."
A. 8:01 PM Q-Are we soon entering a 3rd World war? If so when?
A-I do see us entering a 3rd World War, but it is almost like a peaceful takeover, what I see happening is people fighting over resources, and with the destructive technology available rather than destroying each other, and harming resources, it is like other countries will invade other countries, I see countries taking over other countries but it is at such a slow rate that it does not seem invasive. So it is like a very small incremental war, but it is not earth destroying in the process. And I see this a lot around the Iran and Iraq area.
Q-So you see no major bombing, nuclear attacks, invasions or anything of that sort?
A-There maybe some small forceful takeovers, but I have a strong sense that they want to keep the farmland pure, and the oil access.
Q-Are the elite hiding any financial theft? Why are they printing so much money?
A-I have an image of people pulling money off the printers and like throwing it up in the air like it is nothing. And it make me feel like they are printing it to give the illusion that we have it and in reality they are creating a destructive amount of inflation. But to the average person all they see is just tons of money in circulation and being lent out.
Q-When will this inflation hit?
A-It is hitting now, and it is just slowly going to show, it is like on a graph that keeps rising. And I am getting a number in my head for a loaf of bread in 2014 of between 6-7 dollars. So about a 4-5 times increase.
Q-How will society function, and how will people eat?
A-I see it as if you do not grow your own food, or do not have money saved for the price hikes, the rest of society is going to each the cheaper junkier and less nutritious food. I see a lot of health problems in the future.
Q-Will the materialism of people change once this inflation hits?
A-Once there is no more credit to lend out, yes around late 2014.
Q-Will land and property prices rise as well?
A-It depends on the land, farmland will rise, but if it is not functional and useful land, it is going to go for cheap.
Q-What year do people realize we are in a depression?
A-I feel like after Obama gets back into office it will happen I would say like the 2nd quarter of next year 2013.
Q-Will the stock market prevail?
A-I feel like we got about 5-6 years on the stock market, it is like it is falsely inflated, I feel like during that time China is going to impose some kind of action towards the US that they want their debt paid, and they are going to want Gold or Silver. And when that happens it is going to put us in an undeniable situation that we do not have money. And we are going to feel like we are at China's mercy and when that starts happening that is when it is going to affect our stock market and also the realization of our inflated money is going to come forward.
Q-Then why does the Government just stop printing now and face the facts?
A-I am hearing the phrase "Their plan is not ready or done" like there is people in the banks or the stock market that are making a lot of money and they are waiting on whatever their goals are to be met before any action happens. And I feel like when China starts wanting their money, their plans still are not quite done, but whatever it is they are not going to be affected like everyone else.
Q-If you were to pick and exact date to get out of the market what day would that be?
A-I am seeing the date of 3-13-13, like 31313.
Q-Is this date planed out already or are you just seeing the future?
A-I am really just seeing a date based on a question that I focused on.
Q-Are the elites aware of this date?
A-I feel like they are, but they have this false way of controlling the market to where it does not impact them, and they over the long run are able to make money.
Q-You can still make money if you can predict the market going down.
A-But not the normal person, only if you have control of it.
Q-So the average person should get out before March 2013?
A-I do not want to tell people what to do but be cautious.
Q-Will the market continue to rise between present time and March 2013?

end snip*

*(and there are 3 or 4 on different topics. All suggestion 2013 major issues happening. But they seem to vary.)
Link for this particular posting: http://psychicfocus.blogspot.com/2012/09/are-we-soon-entering-3rd-world-war.html

eileenrose
8th October 2012, 08:43
Here is more of what she posted (topic wise)

On the Illuminati
http://psychicfocus.blogspot.com/2012/09/are-there-groups-like-illuminati-or.html

On Prophecy verses Free Will
http://psychicfocus.blogspot.com/2012/09/how-does-prophecy-and-free-will-work.html

Will if be safe to live in California next year
http://psychicfocus.blogspot.com/2012/09/hi-my-name-is-amber-g-i-live-in-san.html

On 9/11 (starts off on crop circles)
http://psychicfocus.blogspot.com/2012/09/what-is-purpose-of-crop-circles-who.html

etc.

mountain_jim
8th October 2012, 19:34
A short video illustrating the expanding earth theory...

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Dennis Jonathan
10th November 2012, 09:22
My comment was directed at the opinion these reports are fabricated.

As an example:

"This is Sydney"
Written on a triple blind viewing assigned by a random future trading average.

Regardless of the disaster scenarios, and whether or not they come to pass, this is important.

angelahedgehog
10th November 2012, 10:06
I've been a long time interested observer of the Half Past Human experiment(?) and I have bought a couple of reports over the years but I'm on a tight budget, so I can't afford it all the time and I don't really want to ask for a freebie because I have personal issues asking people for stuff. But because I'd been paying attention to the Farsight research - I bought the last report.

So far it has been spot on ......... There's an issue divulging details online because the way the data is collected it affects the results of future reports but really I've never seen it so accurate. Some interesting / terrifying things forecasted for later ...

A point to note - All this is just forecasting - Clif's work, Farsight Institute etc. just forecasting - I know there's a theory that we collectively start putting out what we think will happen (prediction) ... But I still can't quite convince myself that through writing about it constantly we aren't directly affecting and making the future happen and Clif's report is really the forecast of what's going to happen based on what the collective thinks will happen, comments on and discusses ad infinitum.

There is always a danger when you take things in isolation that you're missing the bigger picture. Clif High and Courteney Brown discovered a similar result using two completely different methods .... Now if you consider that there is this other very interesting thread being discussed here -

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51752-Geoengineering-Chemtrails-HAARP-World-Orders-Time-Lines-and-Ascension
(Geoengineering Chemtrails HAARP World-Orders Time-Lines and Ascension)

- you will see that this is a third similar source / indicator that something big will happen .... Im sure there are others but I'm still trying to group them in my tiny little hedgehog head.

If you look at the information about there being effectively three timelines (0, 1, 2) and why (see link) .... you will see there is a good reason to think that some people might end up stuck in a wind swept barren landscape as survivors of a new version of .... Oh for want of a better description ... The New Age of Empires .... (In a couple of millenia the New Microsoft will eventually turn up, but that's another story) ....