Heaven Is Real, Says Neurosurgeon Who Claims To Have Visited The Afterlife

[Hip Hipnotist]

I don't know that I'd call it 'heaven' but the good doctor is on the right track.

Perhaps someone ought'a lead him to Avalon where he'd learn a few other things regarding the afterlife. ;-)

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/heaven-real-says-neurosurgeon-claims-visited-afterlife-213527063.html

[Earth Angel]

nice to see this is the cover story on this weeks edition of Newsweek......his experience sounds much like Anita Moorjani.......Dying to be Me is an excellent book on this topic

[another bob]

From the link:

"From there, Alexander claims to have traveled to "an immense void, completely dark, infinite in size, yet also infinitely comforting." He believes this void was the home of God."


see post #284 here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?50433-Blank-Canvas/page15


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[Abductee S]

And if this is true? And there is something after death..what does it mean about your life here now? Ask yourself all the questions that may arise in your mind.

[TamaraS]

How nice to share. My daughter from college just sent this to me and it was a pleasant surprise to see it here also. As a new member this reconfirms I am at a right place.

[Krullenjongen]

From a christian perspective this testimony puzzles me.

He said: "From there, Alexander claims to have traveled to "an immense void, completely dark, infinite in size, yet also infinitely comforting." He believes this void was the home of God."

I cannot unify this with what my bible states in 1 John 1:5.
"This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all"

I am also asking myself who or what this "female companion" can be that he is refering to.
It can't be an angel because in the bible angels are never referred to in any gender other than masculine.
I have seen a lot of video's on this subject but this one doesn't quite fit the general picture.
It could be because we just get a little bit of the story, hope to see some more about this.
Another video on the subject that i liked is this one:
It has some heaven experiences in it but also the more rare hell exeriences.

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[TraineeHuman]

I occasionally get communications from dead individuals. I don't encourage it or particularly welcome it. But because of this I do have some direct knowledge of aspects of the after-death world. The so-called "hell" experience does seem to happen to maybe one person in four after death, but as far as I know it lasts no more than two days at most. It happens to the one person in four or so who at a deep level is in the unhappiest 25%.

Also, the environment a person experiences immediately after death is determined by the person's own beliefs about the afterlife -- maybe coming from their childhood. If you believe there's a "hell" where people get tortured or whatever, that's what your consciousness will create.

You also get people who, while they were alive, didn't believe in any afterlife. That was true of my mother. After she passed, she didn't experience any "hell", but she was still very frightened and confused -- but only because she had been expecting some dreadful and negative to occur, which she eventually realised hadn't happened and wouldn't happen to her. Then, as soon as she realised this -- after three weeks -- things became quite pleasant for her.

[sdv]

I am also asking myself who or what this "female companion" can be that he is refering to.
It can't be an angel because in the bible angels are never referred to in any gender other than masculine.

The woman he saw turned out to be his dead sister, whom he had never met. He was adopted and when he found his birth family his sister had died. He only saw a picture of her after he recovered from the coma, and then recognised her.

His account is fascinating, and in his interview he actually emphasises the experience as an experience of consciousness (the universal consciousness). The emphasis on heaven is a marketing ploy from the publishers (he has written a book). Not to say that he doesn't speak of heaven, but as a neurosurgeon he tried to prove that his experience was a result of brain function (the dying brain releasing DMT and hallucinating, or whatever) but was unable to do so and thus concludes that he experienced universal consciousness, which is outside the brain (i.e. universal consciousness communicates through the brain rather than the brain producing consciousness).

Here's a transcript of the interview (scroll down to find the link to open the audio):

http://www.skeptiko.com/154-neurosurgeon-dr-eben-alexander-near-death-experience/

Here's an excerpt from an interview he did at the 2012 Bioethics Forum:

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[Maunagarjana]

I find his opinion very intriguing coming from a man with his level of knowledge.

I read an interview with him recently here: http://www.skeptiko.com/154-neurosurgeon-dr-eben-alexander-near-death-experience/

[Rantaak]

Sounds like someone experienced a surplus of the neurotransmitters known as 5-meo-dmt and nn,dmt.

Since when was that news? :-p

[sirdipswitch]

Y'all must not be readin the "Adventures Beyond The body", thread, by anotherbob, under "Spirituality". Learn how you can go out of body for yourself, and get "all" of your questions answered. Learn to commune with Source, yourself. Then you won't have to sit around and wonder about what someone else did. When you learn first hand, you will know...

[Ry.com]

every persons heaven is different from one person to another it just depends on the person

[WyoSeeker]

From a christian perspective this testimony puzzles me.

He said: "From there, Alexander claims to have traveled to "an immense void, completely dark, infinite in size, yet also infinitely comforting." He believes this void was the home of God."

I cannot unify this with what my bible states in 1 John 1:5.
"This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all"


I found that the Bible, lacking completely in anything resembling internal consistency, and containing a zillion contradictory quotes, was a poor filter in my search for the truth.

As an allegory or collection of parables, even as pseudo-history, it can illustrate important truths. I just quit taking it too literally. :)

[Carmody]

How nice to share. My daughter from college just sent this to me and it was a pleasant surprise to see it here also. As a new member this reconfirms I am at a right place.

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It may have seemed infinite, but it is speculated to be the nearby (dimensional dislocation) 'bardo', or 'dreamspace' for humans who are incarnated. And also utilized by the 'recently departed'.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

When you go under your whole world becomes a reality based on your deep psyche. The pineal gland can project such amazing reality you cannot tell the difference.

An angel will appear in a form you create. im hoping mine will look like Jennifer Conelly :-)

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[Krullenjongen]

From a christian perspective this testimony puzzles me.

He said: "From there, Alexander claims to have traveled to "an immense void, completely dark, infinite in size, yet also infinitely comforting." He believes this void was the home of God."

I cannot unify this with what my bible states in 1 John 1:5.
"This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all"


I found that the Bible, lacking completely in anything resembling internal consistency, and containing a zillion contradictory quotes, was a poor filter in my search for the truth.

As an allegory or collection of parables, even as pseudo-history, it can illustrate important truths. I just quit taking it too literally. :)

I found that the bible has great internal consistency, especially when you consider it is written over a timespan of about 2000 years and written by many different writers on 3 different continents. And yes to some there seem to be many contradictions but if you really look into this they are of no real consequence or not so hard to explain when you dig a little deeper.
Many have already made up their mind and just don't want to see.

Which book or knowledge base do you turn to when someone is talking about the reality of heaven and hell?
Do you have a better source of knowledge to compare this experience with?

[lightseeker]

Krullenjongen, your last 2 questions of which book of knowledge do people turn to about the reality of heaven or hell. My response is NONE, there is no heaven or hell, never has been, never will be. But if people feel the need to create this for themselves, go for it. And yes I do have a better source of knowledge, that being myself. I do believe Jesus said heaven is within, I am paraphrasing . We go within ourselves to find all of these answers. Unfortunately a lot of people do not wish to do that. We all make choices. I certainly don't wish to get into a long winded discussion about the bible or any other holy book. People will believe what they chose to believe,and good for them. We are all on a journey and each one is different from our individual perspectives. I think that is what makes life some wonderfully interesting. We do all learn from each other and everything around us, if we allow ourselves to open up to infinite possibilities and to LISTEN. The answers are there, but many people are just to lazy to bother. After all the football game is coming on and maybe they have to do a round of golf today. they will look within tomorrow. Get where I am coming from.

[GloriousPoetry]

I agree...every person's level of consciousness becomes the vehicle as to where they decide to venture once they are done with physicality here.


Gloria

[another bob]

"It has often intrigued me how some Buddhist masters I know ask one simple question of people who approach them for teaching: “Do you believe in a life after this one?” They are not being asked whether they believe in it as a philosophical proposition but whether they feel it deeply in their hearts. The master knows that if a man believes in a life after this one, his whole outlook on life will be different, and he will have a distinct sense of personal responsibility and morality. What the masters must suspect is that there is a danger that people who have no strong belief in a life after this one will create a society fixated on short-term results, without much thought for the consequences of their actions. Could this be the major reason why we have created a world like the one we are now living in, a world with hardly any real compassion?"


Sogyal Rinpoche, from ”Glimpse of the Day”

[BrianEn]

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/heaven-real-says-neurosurgeon-claims-visited-afterlife-213527063.html

As written in the article:By Eric Pfeiffer, Yahoo! News

Dr. Eben Alexander has taught at Harvard Medical School and has earned a strong reputation as a neurosurgeon. And while Alexander says he's long called himself a Christian, he never held deeply religious beliefs or a pronounced faith in the afterlife.

But after a week in a coma during the fall of 2008, during which his neocortex ceased to function, Alexander claims he experienced a life-changing visit to the afterlife, specifically heaven.

"According to current medical understanding of the brain and mind, there is absolutely no way that I could have experienced even a dim and limited consciousness during my time in the coma, much less the hyper-vivid and completely coherent odyssey I underwent," Alexander writes in the cover story of this week's edition of Newsweek.

So what exactly does heaven look like?

Alexander says he first found himself floating above clouds before witnessing, "transparent, shimmering beings arced across the sky, leaving long, streamer like lines behind them."

He claims to have been escorted by an unknown female companion and says he communicated with these beings through a method of correspondence that transcended language. Alexander says the messages he received from those beings loosely translated as:

"You are loved and cherished, dearly, forever."

"You have nothing to fear."

"There is nothing you can do wrong."

From there, Alexander claims to have traveled to "an immense void, completely dark, infinite in size, yet also infinitely comforting." He believes this void was the home of God.

After recovering from his meningitis-induced coma, Alexander says he was reluctant to share his experience with his colleagues but found comfort inside the walls of his church. He's chronicled his experience in a new book, "Proof of Heaven: A neurosurgeon's journey into the afterlife," which will be published in late October.

"I'm still a doctor, and still a man of science every bit as much as I was before I had my experience," Alexander writes. "But on a deep level I'm very different from the person I was before, because I've caught a glimpse of this emerging picture of reality. And you can believe me when I tell you that it will be worth every bit of the work it will take us, and those who come after us, to get it right."

[PurpleLama]

Never pass up the chance to bring this one back:

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[PurpleLama]

This is the topic of another thread in General Discussion.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?50713-Heaven-Is-Real-Says-Neurosurgeon-Who-Claims-To-Have-Visited-The-Afterlife

[Joe Akulis]

[QUOTE=WyoSeeker;567061][QUOTE]Which book or knowledge base do you turn to when someone is talking about the reality of heaven and hell?
Do you have a better source of knowledge to compare this experience with?

Yes, I do. It's the website you just posted on.

[Joe Akulis]

"It has often intrigued me how some Buddhist masters I know ask one simple question of people who approach them for teaching: “Do you believe in a life after this one?” They are not being asked whether they believe in it as a philosophical proposition but whether they feel it deeply in their hearts. The master knows that if a man believes in a life after this one, his whole outlook on life will be different, and he will have a distinct sense of personal responsibility and morality. What the masters must suspect is that there is a danger that people who have no strong belief in a life after this one will create a society fixated on short-term results, without much thought for the consequences of their actions. Could this be the major reason why we have created a world like the one we are now living in, a world with hardly any real compassion?"


Sogyal Rinpoche, from ”Glimpse of the Day”

And one of the big benefits to absorbing this understanding of "life after this one" is patience. If I'm working on developing a personal ability--let's say I want to learn more about healing--but I don't become an awesome healer in this lifetime, doesn't mean I should bag it once it's obvious that I'm not "gifted". The fact is, you can't become "gifted" unless you yourself put in the effort now, and make the small strides, and build the foundations little by little. Then the next "life" will find it a little bit easier to reach your goal, and eventually you will find yourself "gifted" and might not realise that it was only because you put in the effort and stuck with it, remained patient, and accepted the small gains, knowing your future self is the beneficiary.

Do people still believe 4 year olds who can play perfect mozart on the piano are really "gifted"? :-) Methinks they are merely reaping what they have sown.

[xidaijena]

;)Thank you dear for sharing this interesting articles.It's true,Heaven is real of course.

"382.Heaven is the general term for Thousand-year World, Ten-thousand-year World, Elysium World, and Celestial Islands Continent.

383.Thousand-year World, Ten-thousand-year World, Elysium World, and Celestial Islands Continent are not fanciful imaginations. They are an inevitability caused by the law that the sum of positive energy and negative energy is zero. Just like the inevitable existence of Mercury, Saturn, Mars, and other planets in the solar system, or the inevitable existence of the seven apertures, hairs, limbs, and the five internal organs in the human body."— 800 Values for New Era Human Being "Heaven" (http://lifechanyuan.org/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1353&extra=page%3D1)

see more details about Heaven :

http://lifechanyuan.org/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1385&extra=page%3D1

[xidaijena]

And if this is true? And there is something after death..what does it mean about your life here now? Ask yourself all the questions that may arise in your mind.

A big YES with you ,dear! Yes ,when I asked the question to myself,it was a blank in my mind.Blank means that I have to find the answer and know why I was born on Mother Earh,the meaning of my life.And for this ,I could find all the anwers anout LIFE & DEATH in Lifechanyuan 's values.:o

http://lifechanyuan.org/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1389&extra=page%3D1

[Ry.com]

this is good not sure about singing though :o
god bless ya

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this is good not sure about singing though :o
bod bless ya