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Iceberg
13th October 2012, 22:08
What would you choose ( honestly) if implanted chip will be a law ?

seko
13th October 2012, 22:16
No thank you!!

Even if law, I wouldn't and I will see how far can I go without one.


ok, 4

DevilPigeon
13th October 2012, 22:22
No thank you!!

Even if law, I wouldn't and I will see how far can I go without one.


ok, 4

Ditto... +1

christian
13th October 2012, 22:35
When my government becomes utterly criminal and tries to enforce criminality, I'd intend to defend myself right where I'm at, to educate others, and to explain to them that this has to be fought off collectively. Then creating battle plans, as peaceful as possible. The right to self-defense is common sense and in the German Grundgesetz (our pseudo-constitution, Germany hasn't been sovereign since 1945, as even our secretary of treasury Schäuble admitted in 2011 (http://www.welt.de/politik/article13757549/Die-oeffentliche-und-die-verborgene-Seite-der-Krise.html), whatever, long story) there's a paragraph that allows the citizens to fight back against criminal actions by the government.

Iceberg
13th October 2012, 22:49
When my government becomes utterly criminal and tries to enforce criminality, I'd intend to defend myself right where I'm at, to educate others, and to explain to them that this has to be fought off collectively. Then creating battle plans, as peaceful as possible. The right to self-defense is common sense and in the German Grundgesetz (our pseudo-constitution, Germany hasn't been sovereign since 1945, as even our secretary of treasury Schäuble admitted in 2011 (http://www.welt.de/politik/article13757549/Die-oeffentliche-und-die-verborgene-Seite-der-Krise.html), whatever, long story) there's a paragraph that allows the citizens to fight back against criminal actions by the government.

What resistance could be, one man against an army.

Kristin
13th October 2012, 22:58
When my government becomes utterly criminal and tries to enforce criminality, I'd intend to defend myself right where I'm at, to educate others, and to explain to them that this has to be fought off collectively. Then creating battle plans, as peaceful as possible. The right to self-defense is common sense and in the German Grundgesetz (our pseudo-constitution, Germany hasn't been sovereign since 1945, as even our secretary of treasury Schäuble admitted in 2011 (http://www.welt.de/politik/article13757549/Die-oeffentliche-und-die-verborgene-Seite-der-Krise.html), whatever, long story) there's a paragraph that allows the citizens to fight back against criminal actions by the government.

What resistance could be, one man against an army.

The one small resistance that changes the entire course of history.

From the Heart,
Kristin

christian
13th October 2012, 22:59
What resistance could be, one man against an army.

This has happened before and it inspired countless people to this day.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Dpo8IOOcNqo/TVRFCYw49kI/AAAAAAAABpo/WQHlmDgifpw/s1600/tankman.jpg

But I don't think that I'm alone against an army right now. I feel like I'm part of an army actually. And many people, who are not yet really involved, are tired of criminality, even people within the systems.

gripreaper
13th October 2012, 23:15
I will file sovereign declarations and rescind all my adhesion contracts to the corporatocracy. I may join the Lakota's and move to one of the five states which are part of this sovereign nation. I will not take any penetrations to my body ever, regardless of any corporate mandates.

This bankrupt corporatocracy has no jurisdiction over my body, chip, vaccine or otherwise.

Iceberg
13th October 2012, 23:19
I want to believe it but it's to good to be true. In reality we are starting to accept the fact that "the chip" is part of the future. Look it everywhere : creditcards, smartphones, smartcards, passports, etc... We are keeping it near to us. Is this resistance or acceptance ? Has someone rejected a passport or a ID card or a creditcard ? Sooner these will be outdated and we will be forced to accept the new ID ( implanted chip).

Warlock
14th October 2012, 00:37
I don't know.

I may not even be alive.

Warlock

Carmody
14th October 2012, 01:09
I don't like these kinds of polls. They smell too much of data gathering.

Harley
14th October 2012, 01:26
Agree with Carmody

norman
14th October 2012, 01:51
Even modern "Democracy" is a bloody market research excercise.

They shove a bunch of flavours up for tasting and get our verdict on it.

4 years later, the lab guys have polished up the next stage for us.

crosby
14th October 2012, 02:00
i will not tolerate any other human telling me what i have to place in my body....... if it comes right down to it - - pass the jim jones kool-aide.
warmest, corson

Hip Hipnotist
14th October 2012, 02:21
Chips Ahoy!

Cookies, that is.

And you don't have to force me to eat 'em. ;-))

Shamz
14th October 2012, 02:32
I just like to say that for people who don't have a choice...well they don't have a choice... so its better to always make an option for yourself for such a situation and I know its very difficult for most of us. Where I was going with that is...
we should strive to make an alternative arrangements for our living if something like that happens... for my American friends at least we can drive to Canada or mexico and then decide what to do from there.
I am from Indian origin and my family is still there... so I availed the dual citizenship offered by Indian Govt. and I can always go back to and live there if something like that becomes mandatory.
Just a food for thought...if you have such a option to live anywhere else.. take that - that is our last resort... well I know we can't run for ever.

Much love

Paranormal
14th October 2012, 02:48
I hope I won't have to face this as I'll try to move somewhere away from it. A South African Prophet called "Seiner," said people will run to South Africa to avoid persecution. If possible, I'd "pretend" to take it, but have it in a bangle instead of in my arm. This probably won't work, so I'll have to run amok with a chainsaw (I'm kidding).

Dennis Leahy
14th October 2012, 03:23
Perhaps the meme of "being implanted" was just another fear-based tactic to get us to accept the lesser evil of carrying the chip. Thus, it won't be an implanted chip. It will be a chip on an ID card we are required to carry, to "protect against terrorism."

But, if they are really smart, they will simply subsidize cell phones and cell phone service, and make some important societal function that mandates the use of a cell phone app to use that societal function. They already have most of us "chipped" this way. Not only perfect for tracking our whereabouts, but it doubles as a portal for getting us to add data and a voice print directly into the new NSA computer database in Utah.

Dennis

bekrah
14th October 2012, 04:18
Hell no. I don't even like having a cell.

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lol. Just read this after posting. I'm already screwed it seems. ;)

Carmody
14th October 2012, 04:50
Perhaps the meme of "being implanted" was just another fear-based tactic to get us to accept the lesser evil of carrying the chip. Thus, it won't be an implanted chip. It will be a chip on an ID card we are required to carry, to "protect against terrorism."

But, if they are really smart, they will simply subsidize cell phones and cell phone service, and make some important societal function that mandates the use of a cell phone app to use that societal function. They already have most of us "chipped" this way. Not only perfect for tracking our whereabouts, but it doubles as a portal for getting us to add data and a voice print directly into the new NSA computer database in Utah.

Dennis

When the 'following me around' was hot and heavy, I would have to carry my cell phone around, as in not forget it at home. Otherwise I had to tend with being followed into stores, and so on.

ghostrider
14th October 2012, 05:06
they will never put computer chip in my body as long as I have my freewill and right mind. Never. they might as well be ready for me to cloud up and rain down upon them all.....:wizard:

ghostrider
14th October 2012, 05:09
i will not tolerate any other human telling me what i have to place in my body....... if it comes right down to it - - pass the jim jones kool-aide.
warmest, corson

ditto, and then I'll tell them go to wal-mart and buy the little 2-foot step ladder climb up on it and kiss my arse......

eileenrose
14th October 2012, 05:36
I would do what these youths in the Philippines were forced to do - run for their lives (sorry the video is poor quality...just the way it is.....first saw this posted last year on Rumor Mill News)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmw2lDNv494
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmw2lDNv494)
Title: Microchip RFID Forced Implantation in the Philippines (English Subtitle)

Limor Wolf
14th October 2012, 05:37
I am not signing for anything that does not represent freedom of mind and body, and perpetuates the control of the few on the many, since nothing in this type of experience is tempting for me one bit, so, no, I would rather be in my true essence self than a subservient to the government.
BTW, that piece of information can be gathered to any database about me, and I will sign it with both hands.

spiritguide
14th October 2012, 07:35
Have not used a cell phone for six years to date. Have not worn a watch for ten years. Don't miss either one. Live in the now without a leash and no stress imposed.

:peace:

The Truth Is In There
14th October 2012, 09:34
if something like this is ever going to happen they'll first do it in the usa (or perhaps the uk). then we shall see what comes of it.

personally, i'm always against what authorities tell me to do and against what the majority of people do, as a rule, so no chip for me. this data may be gathered for future conviction. i'm not going to hide my opinion ever even if it can be used against me.

Iceberg
14th October 2012, 12:02
To clarify something about this poll. It isn't my intention to use this kind of information but to see our reaction to a possible event. It's time to jump into conclusions to see how much we are united in ideas or actions. If you think this is bad way to do it than I will request to close this poll, but I don't understand why so worried.

blufire
14th October 2012, 12:15
I find this thread utterly fascinating.

Everyone that has posted has said . . . Not me! No way, no how . . . and I’m sure the majority reading have the same attitude.

The cold hard Truth is if you eat store bought food or eat out (gmo food), use any form of technology (computers, tvs, cell phones), have any pharmaceutical drugs injected or taken orally and or even breathe the air the past few years that has been laden with chemtrails.

. . . . then you (including me) have been “programmed” and “chipped”. . . . .everyone has been on the “alert” for an actual event where they line us all up and physically inject or insert a chip. We watch the left hand of the magician while the trick is taking place in the right hand.

The trick or counter defense to this particular ‘battle’ won by ‘them’ is for you and I to acknowledge this Truth and the effects and use it to our advantage.


. . . and oh I didn't vote by the way . . . . . .

Fred Steeves
14th October 2012, 12:34
When my government becomes utterly criminal and tries to enforce criminality, I'd intend to defend myself right where I'm at, to educate others, and to explain to them that this has to be fought off collectively. Then creating battle plans, as peaceful as possible. The right to self-defense is common sense and in the German Grundgesetz (our pseudo-constitution, Germany hasn't been sovereign since 1945, as even our secretary of treasury Schäuble admitted in 2011 (http://www.welt.de/politik/article13757549/Die-oeffentliche-und-die-verborgene-Seite-der-Krise.html), whatever, long story) there's a paragraph that allows the citizens to fight back against criminal actions by the government.

What resistance could be, one man against an army.

The one small resistance that changes the entire course of history.

From the Heart,
Kristin


18677

Agreed Kristin. The right person, doing the right thing, at the right time, can change the course of history in a heartbeat.

ljwheat
14th October 2012, 12:40
This is a trick question chip or no chip? Purely out of they Christian bible paranoia of the mark of the beast, first it was the bar code, now it’s a chip.

Well?????? Wake up every one your already using them, in your pocket or purse there called credit cards, on your belt or purse there called smart phones. This technology is everywhere, no different than a dog tag, driver’s license, or home address, vin # , e-mail, password protection.

Again its all Anglo Christian fear porn of control and domination. The computer your typing on if its 5yrs old and newer its got a chip and a camera what do you think the cloud and chrome are. Ever walk threw an airport and find any one not wired to a device of some kind.

Everyone you drive by anymore is online in one shape or another. And if your still getting flu shots you may already be chipped.

Putting you credit card, address, name and social, in a tinny little chip is not the problem it’s the Sunday morning 666 crap of the beast, that dose not exist except to keeping all little kiddies in religious line locked in place good and evil mumbo jumbo. When this world and nature has always been completely neutral -- pushing duality is the trap man has laid out to keep the masses away from neutrality and peace and understanding.

Now the buggy man is a tinny chip that holds what your purse of wallet would and dose. Nothing more. Its not the mark in the bible.

Sammy
14th October 2012, 14:08
No one will like my answer - First, as I have mentioned before, I believe it is possible I have (at least) two chips. One on the back right of my head and one on the bone in the inside of my left leg between my knee and ankle. I became aware of the first one when I was about 8 years old. The other one I became aware of sometime in my late thirties.

My inner voice suggests to me neither of these chips are of earth human origin.

My inner voice also suggests to me there are one or more additional chips in me. Since I am unsure if its one or more I settle for it being only one. Sometimes I think this one chip may be of earth human origin. That it is implanted somewhere in my head area. More on this in a moment.

I also had a recent "lucid dream" experience, just after I discovered Horus-Ra and immediately after Truman Cash began to post. In this dream I was with "Greys." I had full trust of these beings. They showed me a chip that they telepathically told me I "needed." I was unsure if whether I needed it because I was never chipped by Greys before or if I had been chipped and that chip was no longer any good. My inner voice suggests it is a "new" chip. They showed me the chip. It was like some sort of black glass (or similar) material. It was shiny. It was about an inch or 1.5 inches long. It was shaped like a crescent moon but not to the same degree of curve... a lesser curvature. At its widest point it appeared to be perhaps 1/4 inch wide. I never saw an angle where I could perceive its depth. I still have a vivid memory to this moment of seeing this chip being shown to me between the two fingers of the Grey being.

Again, I had not only zero fear, I felt these guys were my friends in some way. And again, it was only a "lucid dream." This dream occurred (if I recall correctly) sometime last May ish, perhaps June at the latest. Again, I posted about it before not that that matters although I would assume the post has zero conflicts with the above recounting.

And now for the worst part (I saw worst because I am assuming no one here will like what I am about to post).

When I came out of the deepest, darkest of depressions last March I had two glimmers of hope in life. One was that the owner of the business of my last job (the one I lost due to my personal meltdown of last late December (suicide attempt number one sometime around December 26th or so) and January (suicide attempt number two on January 8th that landed me in the psych ward of Saint Thomas hospital in the City of Panama, Panama) and then the subsequent depression which was worse than suicide as i had to accept I could not even kill myself... apologies the digression, but I feel the table needed to be properly set - anyways, this owner gave me a "job" again, albeit at half the former pay yet also less hours and he agreed to finance me a computer. This was because I had two suitcases of clothes to my name at this point and even had to go to the US (which felt like I accepted my future in "hell itself" with one saving grace, I would be able to see my sons).

So with a computer, and a job which I would perform through the computer, I went back to Avalon. I believe my first post back was sometime around March 18th.

As mentioned a bazzilion times, I discovered Houman's thread on April 26th. That first page and my investigation of Eve Lorgen's site and Dr. Malanga's material completely and totally changed my entire data set as to which I had based my world view. Why? Because (and you can only, truly know this if you have experienced my life) but I realized that one of the "entities" I had been dealing with (I say one because I consider there may have been more) was one of these Horus-Ra entities. It was that day I announced to the two folks who owned and occupied the home I was allowed to live in the good news, "My depression is officially over." And it was. I instantly snapped out of the depression and have never looked back.

I used Avalon as a journal, a diary. I had already made a personal decision just after coming back to Avalon to do my utmost to be entirely and completely honest. I wasn't perfect in that, but when I saw myself lying (and I mean lying to myself), I would then post my newly shifted to point of view. This is the process I went through over the next 5 or so months. I posted everything about me, the inner me. I bared my soul. I stripped my soul naked and revealed every facet of it I came upon. I defragged it for lack of better terms. I am not saying I have accomplished this task completely as I still discover lies I have told myself (deep seated lies) as well as a few new ones I test upon myself from time to time. But I can honestly say and I believe honestly measure my progress... that I have done a damn good job of making almost fully whole again what was once scattered beyond the universes.

And so here is where I am at today. I am ok if I were micro chipped but I would ask the chippers to allow me to have my own thoughts and experience my own emotions. I would trust them that they would have the chip in my for the purpose of monitoring me and that they would consider allowing me to be an experiment as to how a chip could be useful for the individual and society for example, in performing commerce for example... but I assume that's still a bit down the road.

I know that probably everyone who reads what I have written will perhaps fear me, perhaps be angry with me that I would allow such a thing, but again, I have found that my only comfortable and genuine way to be is by first and foremost being rigorously honest.

I received a PM a few weeks back from a poster friend here. This poster warned me that my communications may be monitored. I chuckled when I read this. Of course they are likely monitored. In fact, they may be monitored by more than simply earth born human beings. But I was (and am) at the stage in my life where I truly have no secrets. I think nothing, write nothing, speak nothing nor do nothing that I have any concerns as to who might know my thoughts, read what I have written, hear my words or observe my actions - with one exception. That exception is in relation to my current "day job." In my day job, I must play those games. Thus I do. But unlike those who play these types of games (mostly unconsciously) I am playing it consciously and I am headed to a specific one or more goals. Those goals are to a.) experience the company healed from its current malady b.) expose the illness to the level that the owner has all the case building he needs to implement the necessary changes c.) perhaps somehow not become one of the victims in the process of exorcism I am performing.

Goal c.) is the least important because if it is more important than the greater goal, I have already failed. Such is the nature of performing exorcisms. In this case, sacrifice is the risk. Oh, and by the way, in this lifetime I have performed this task many, many times already so I am getting pretty good at it.

Now back to the poster's PM. One of the concerns this poster raised in the PM was a concern the Vatican might come upon my communications. Is not the Vatican essentially the self ordained spiritual government for the planet? If so, and I am being a true, honest, caring... well, essentially doing my very best to emulate the standards set by Jesus Christ himself, then why should I worry about the Vatican? Really... think about it. The legendary Jesus is one of my role models (along with many other legendary figures from the past as well as living role models of today). So seriously, why should I worry about the Vatican? Why should any genuine, self honest human being be afraid of the current (perceived) spiritual government of earth? Silly to me. In fact, I would love to hang out with both Popes for an afternoon. But that's just me... I love everyone. I judge no one (I discern when it comes to if I care to be involved with other human beings... but I truly do not judge a single human being).

Now for the last part of my (put everyone to sleep, monster post) - I have an open invitation to any and every spy organization, any "vaticans", anyone who might be able to afford the hardware, that they can monitor any and all my communications, they can put microphones anywhere I might go and speak. They can have video cameras anywhere they want to put them - even mic and video my bedroom if they like. If they happen to sell access to whatever they monitor, I would like to obtain a 10% royalty fee on all net profits of the venture, and I am my own agent.

You may think I am kidding, but those who know me know I am not.

Imagine being "Truman" from The Truman Show. What if you had been Truman all your life but the Truman you discovered you were was something you would have been disgusted with, repulsed by... primarily because what you discovered you were was a liar, to others as well as yourself, a coward, a mega manipulator, a pretender... and then you hit that wall and saw the steps and the doorway out. You would walk out into the real world where everyone knew you were a scumbag. Everyone knew you could not be trusted. Everyone knew you were a sicko (and we will allow your imagination to fill in more blanks). Well, I decided about 5 or so months ago I was not going to be afraid when and if I ever find that wall and that doorway out. I decided that I would be able to open that door and be OK with the reception I received. I decided that when I opened that door, and saw the person on the other side was actually and all along, only me, I was ready to embrace myself.

Anyways, I am still "in process" in this regard, but I truly do not care what type of monitoring any other being may want to spend their resources on and their time on when it comes to me.

One final point to make - Some may recall some of my posts regarding suspicions about my father. Again, those are truly and only based on circumstantial evidence and an unusually high amount of synchronistic confirmations came forth along my path when bits and pieces of circumstantial information arose. BUT... and this is critical that the reader understand. It is my current conclusion that synchronicity brings to the observer what the observer may desire (at their deep subconscious level) to see. So with that possibility (which I rate currently as having a good 99% chance of being the actual way that specific component fits into our dynamic) I no longer am married to a verdict regarding my father nor myself as far as the PTBs might be a part. For this reason, I have become quite respectful of the possibilities that there may have been some level of PTB interaction with my father and that some of those folks may still be alive. For that reason, I have drawn a line about what I might publicly, voluntarily put forth. At times I perceive I might just be a pawn (or maybe a knight) in someone's bigger game and since this is possible and since I am not in full awareness of what the game master may have in store for any of us, I am finding a higher level of "court awareness" as to what I post.

Note, I have no blog, I have no other forums I belong to (other than a few gaming forums and I don't post about "consciousness" nor my personal journey there... haha). I found all I need is Avalon. I hope that I never wear out my welcome here (I already have three strikes). I hope this post does not make strike four.

My last comment. All that I stated above is simply exposing my own self, my own views on "chipping" and my own method of extricating myself from the fear zones. This post is not meant in any way to suggest that anyone else adopt my approach to this matter as well as to life in general. It is simply what I had to do to get free. What I had to do to be able to look that guy in the mirror and actually love him.

Enjoy the Day and Love to All, Chester

Sidney
14th October 2012, 14:17
I voted 3. Who needs a chip though when we have a smart phone. lol

Arrowwind
14th October 2012, 14:55
If this were to come about I think that I would probably enter into a new profession, that of chip removal.

As to wether I would accept a chip or not certainly would be determined by the situation. I would not go to prision, I would not allow them to kill me. I would take the chip. But in short order I would remove it.

Personally, I think that mandetory chip implants will never happen. There are other controlling technologies that are coming down the road that will eliminate any confrontations between the people and the governement, technologies that we will absolutley have no choice in if the dark forces determine to implement them. It will be done to the population without concent and likey without awareness... if you think this potential is not real consider the monsanto paradigm, and the altering of DNA and gene expression though viral exposures. If you think that control of population and depopulation is not possible consider how Lyme disease has spread through the population and that is a result of a technology now relatively old now, an early test drive so to speak even if it came about unwitingly.

If you haven't seen this video from another recent thread here you will understand more. If you control the mind/brain complex and how it functions implants will not be necessary.
www.youtube.com/watch?v= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nADFJlAggnY)nADFJlAggnY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nADFJlAggnY)