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jagman
26th October 2012, 04:13
I just found this story on PrisonPlanet. Any thoughts?
http://www.prisonplanet.com/national-guard-whistleblower-doomsday-preppers-will-be-treated-as-terrorists.html

Paul
26th October 2012, 04:22
I just found this story on PrisonPlanet. Any thoughts?
http://www.prisonplanet.com/national-guard-whistleblower-doomsday-preppers-will-be-treated-as-terrorists.html
The key opening paragraphs from this article:



Referred to only as “Soldier X” under promise of anonymity, an Army National Guardsman spoke via phone with Infowars Nightly News Producer Rob Dew regarding a recent briefing his unit underwent on actions the military would take in the event that an Obama election loss sparked rioting in America’s streets.

Citing not only recent widespread threats to riot if Mitt Romney were to become the next U.S. president, but threats to actually assassinate him should he win, Soldier X’s superiors dispensed plans of how the National Guard would be responsible for “taking over” and quelling such unrest.

The soldiers were reportedly told “Doomsday preppers will be treated as terrorists.”

In addition, guns will be confiscated.

“They have a list compiled of all these doomsday preppers that have gone public and they plan to go after them first,” Soldier X said. He claimed those in charge are acting under the belief that preppers will be “the worst part” of any potential civil unrest.

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I haven't felt the need for a gun ... but if this happened, I might be inclined to buy one, just to thumb my nose at the bastards in charge.

norman
26th October 2012, 04:33
Sounds to me like the cabal have got their trouble maker folk all ready to work up a riot as soon as the results are in.

I think you should be watching closely for signs that the crowds are being whipped up by 'operatives'.


EDIT: If this is what's going to happen, I'll bet Obama wins and the troops have to go after the 'patriots'.

Rocky_Shorz
26th October 2012, 05:19
I just found this story on PrisonPlanet. Any thoughts?
http://www.prisonplanet.com/national-guard-whistleblower-doomsday-preppers-will-be-treated-as-terrorists.html

why Prep for Doomsday?

even the bible thumpers would laugh at that one...

Rocky_Shorz
26th October 2012, 05:32
I'm really not worried about Obama losing, I am more worried about the terrorists in New York called Wall Street when Romney loses...

yo Bankers...

Snowstorm and Hurricane Sandy hitting at the same time...

enjoy your vacation...

GoodETxSG
26th October 2012, 10:51
I have to say in this case a LOT (Not all, but meets the BS Threshold I have spoken of previously) of this is indeed accurate. I am actually surprised to tell you the truth w/all the disinfo that has been popping up. There is intel of coordinated incidents being planned if the current president is voted out giving him an opportunity to declare martial law etc... We have all in the Guard been over the confiscation of weapons scenario. Most of us would down right refuse or worse. This is a time to watch for blue helmets in the streets here and there for full effect on the TV Screen. This alone would have a desired effect in the US and Globally.

GoodETxSG
26th October 2012, 10:56
I just found this story on PrisonPlanet. Any thoughts?
http://www.prisonplanet.com/national-guard-whistleblower-doomsday-preppers-will-be-treated-as-terrorists.html

why Prep for Doomsday?

even the bible thumpers would laugh at that one...

Actually most preppers will be meeting together out in the middle of no where in little communities. Perfect opportunity for another "Branch Dividian Compound" string of incidents... but kind of pointless other than for show of some kind.

Rocky_Shorz
26th October 2012, 16:32
well everyone relax, it won't be affecting any of us, those communicating about Killing the President and overturning the government have always been broken up and arrested.

we're talking gun slinging Rednecks coming down from the mountain shotgun in hand mad they live in a hut in the woods.

us city slickers wanting to run from the craziness of the city are wishing we were living in a hut surrounded by nature...

if Romney gets in and declares WWIII, I will be marching in the protests, demanding peace.

time to let the world grow up on their own, we have a country to rebuild...

instead of cutting social programs the rich have inflated costs to shrink their checks to barely surviving already.

the moment they take social security away from Seniors, they will set up a tent in front of government buildings until they are taken care of, which would cost far more than the current system.

as the rich run to emergency rooms for a dying child and find there is a 10 hour waiting line before they can be seen...

they will start to understand the social programs do have a reason.

if I had a choice between investing in educating our Children and creating clean energy jobs or building the war machine stronger for WW III, I choose the future of peace.

I know all of you whether Democrat, Republican or Independent feel the same.

none of us are crazy, but have been swept up in divisions created by Media moguls to keep our minds off what is important.

it is time to get this election out of the way so we can move forward again, my enemies are running the Federal Reserve, not my neighbors or created boogie men in the middle east.

America is a great country, we've had some rough years, but we're pulling out of it.

Corporate leaders, I call on you to do what is right, start bringing jobs back to America so our children have hope.

Trucks and trains are rolling, 15-20% more than last year, it isn't hauling war equipment, it is hauling goods we have all been living without since the crash of 08

we have learned to live without because we had no choice. We are still the best country in the world, though many have forgotten.

I have hope we are moving the right direction, and see changes coming quickly once the election has passed...

Obama is a good man, and so is Romney, neither have bad hearts, and want to do what they see is best for the country.

the question is, who is going to stand against the real evil men in this world, and who is going to bow down and give them whatever they ask?

that is what is being decided right now, this could be the most important election this country has ever had, but regardless of which way the wind blows,

we'll survive, we always do...

white wizard
26th October 2012, 16:53
I can tell you none of this will ever happen and soldier x is probably a fraud. You

really think the government would be dumb enough to take American citizen guns.

If you wanted to really piss off the people than that would be a great way to do it

the NRA gun toting hillbillies would have a field day and it would be a mess. I know

people in the National Guard most of which have collections of weapons themselves

and their not as stupid as you think. This is fear porn that is it.

Fred Steeves
26th October 2012, 17:43
I did a little remodeling job this past summer for a neighbor of ours who is a cop, and is roughly 10 years my senior. He may not know what we know about the true power structure of the world, but there IS one thing he knows for sure, he cherishes his 2nd Amendment. Over a couple or so beers one evening on his back patio, I asked him what he would do if gun confiscation were ever to occur, for whatever reason. His answer was basically: 1) He would no longer be a cop. 2) Over my dead body, come and get them.

It's hard to imagine TPTB going for our last line of defense like that, in a full frontal assault. They're doing a great job at pecking around the edges, but I'm just not sure if they have an answer for that pesky gun "problem". It may sound barbaric to the rest of the world, who are already basically disarmed, but guns are our ace in the hole here. For millions of Americans that is crossing the final line in the sand, and the response is pretty much a unified: "Just Try It..."

Cheers,
Fred

norman
26th October 2012, 19:08
I saw a Yahoo news article today that said Obama is urging people to vote early by postal vote.

I also see that a freak "Frankinstorm" is brewing up over America and that commentators are suggesting it could be so bad that the election might have to be postponed.

I also hear on the Alex Jones show that a LOT of people have reported heavy chemtrailing all over the US this week.

What's wrong with this picture ?

sdv
26th October 2012, 19:30
It may sound barbaric to the rest of the world, who are already basically disarmed, but guns are our ace in the hole here.

Yep, Fred, much of the rest of the world looks at Americans' love affair with guns and tolerantly wait for for you to move out of the energy of defensive/offensive fear and move on. Americans may not believe this, but most of the world is ok with standing back and letting you find your way to wherever you want to go, as long as you keep it at home.

We just get very exasperated when you see the small arms treaty as a threat to yourselves instead of supporting it as a choice that the rest of the world is making for themselves (well, most of the rest of the world) and not trying to impose on Americans at home. And so on...

Impulse control, applying the principle of 'do no harm' when making choices, and acknowledgement and respect for each person to have the divine right to life are missing or being eroded in too many places in the world (amongst individulas and communities, and so on). Guns are just too dangerous in our modern world. Therefore, I advocate that we disarm and then transform because guns stand in the way of transformation!

When I was tied up, gagged, held down, threatened and robbed, the skollies (a wonderful local term for people up to no good) had knives. It terrified me (one sat on top of me with his arm against my throat choking me as the other looted), and even now any noise in the night alerts and disturbs me. If the skollies had been armed with guns (from recent news reports I think they are now) ...? It's far easier to shoot from a gun than to hold a knife and then to willingly and actively force it to penetrate flesh. Guns inflict more violence by giving the illusion of detaching self from the violence that is committed?

How many times are guns used in real defence in America, and how many people are harmed/saved because of this? How many times are guns used to harm and kill in America? I don't know if there are studies that show that being so very heavily harmed is actually a very effective deterrent that is worth accepting those who get brutally murdered as acceptable collateral damage for upholding the right to bear arms?

The choice is Americans to make, for themselves, at home.

Maia Gabrial
26th October 2012, 20:03
This won't stop me from stocking up on anything I need. The govt/corporation can kiss my rosy behind. They'll be crashing and burning from all the nonsense they've been pulling. It's only a matter of time....

Nickolai
26th October 2012, 22:49
well everyone relax, it won't be affecting any of us, those communicating about Killing the President and overturning the government have always been broken up and arrested.

we're talking gun slinging Rednecks coming down from the mountain shotgun in hand mad they live in a hut in the woods.

us city slickers wanting to run from the craziness of the city are wishing we were living in a hut surrounded by nature...

if Romney gets in and declares WWIII, I will be marching in the protests, demanding peace.

time to let the world grow up on their own, we have a country to rebuild...

instead of cutting social programs the rich have inflated costs to shrink their checks to barely surviving already.

the moment they take social security away from Seniors, they will set up a tent in front of government buildings until they are taken care of, which would cost far more than the current system.

as the rich run to emergency rooms for a dying child and find there is a 10 hour waiting line before they can be seen...

they will start to understand the social programs do have a reason.

if I had a choice between investing in educating our Children and creating clean energy jobs or building the war machine stronger for WW III, I choose the future of peace.

I know all of you whether Democrat, Republican or Independent feel the same.

none of us are crazy, but have been swept up in divisions created by Media moguls to keep our minds off what is important.

it is time to get this election out of the way so we can move forward again, my enemies are running the Federal Reserve, not my neighbors or created boogie men in the middle east.

America is a great country, we've had some rough years, but we're pulling out of it.

Corporate leaders, I call on you to do what is right, start bringing jobs back to America so our children have hope.

Trucks and trains are rolling, 15-20% more than last year, it isn't hauling war equipment, it is hauling goods we have all been living without since the crash of 08

we have learned to live without because we had no choice. We are still the best country in the world, though many have forgotten.

I have hope we are moving the right direction, and see changes coming quickly once the election has passed...

Obama is a good man, and so is Romney, neither have bad hearts, and want to do what they see is best for the country.

the question is, who is going to stand against the real evil men in this world, and who is going to bow down and give them whatever they ask?

that is what is being decided right now, this could be the most important election this country has ever had, but regardless of which way the wind blows,

we'll survive, we always do...

Rocky_Shorz,

Was it an ironic that you have written? Or you talk to americans only?
Please explain: "time to let the world grow up on their own, we have a country to rebuild..."
Remind me please wh ever asked for establishing your understanding of freedom in otherlands? I mean keeping in mind what the USA did to the world, how much suffering your country brought to people of other countries ... More than it! Your country shamelessly goes on with the same politics.
Sorry, I am kind of speechless. What countries the USA have helped to grow up?

I am better off for I can tell things

Puzzled

Rocky_Shorz
26th October 2012, 23:01
I am talking recalling troops from around the world and letting them grow up and find their own peace...

they may be older by far than this lil old trouble making country, but they've been warring for thousands of years on their own, all I've known is peace

it's easy to hate America, but you are an exception. you've had rulers that kill off a few hundred thousand of your own people and call it a day...

we have a tendril of Russia controlling America right now, so don't be sticking your nose in the air calling your country perfect either...

Russia is still dragging the tea party around by their noses...

4evrneo
26th October 2012, 23:18
Just want to make an observation, I have been stepping back from any situation that feels like its pushing me to engage. Now I am seeing why, It seems that tensions are very high right now, many people are getting easily offended everywhere !

My intuition is telling me, dont allow it to attach and step back to see the picture more clearly. Makes me wonder what exactly is behind this and the first thing that comes to mind is that we are being set up to play out exactly how they want.

These pictures are an idea of what I have been seeing almost daily lately.
1895318954

Have seen on a few threads where tensions are high.

Just my own observation.
A
sorry for getting off topic.

Nickolai
26th October 2012, 23:19
Reread my post please and find where have I said anything about Russia.
That's for first.Next is, we have never invaded countries (at least after the nineties). And I find your words "your nose in the air" kind of insulting since I have told what I know. And I have asked you to correct me if you found me wrong.
What tendril of Russia do you talk about, Rocky_Shorz ?

Paul
26th October 2012, 23:46
I am talking recalling troops from around the world and letting them grow up and find their own peace...


Reread my post please and find where have I said anything about Russia...

I sense some miscommunication going on here :).

I suspect both Rocky and Nickolai have more than ample reason to be seriously pissed off at something or other in the USA and/or Russia.

Rocky_Shorz
26th October 2012, 23:51
yeah I was wondering the same thing, shouldn't have lit him up like that, sorry Nikolai, not your fault any more than our government is mine...

thanks Paul I was going to go back to soften it down, I just get pissed every time I think of the Koch Empire knowing what they are doing...


we are both mad at the same people...

Paul
26th October 2012, 23:58
we are both mad at the same people...
Aren't we all ...

Rocky_Shorz
26th October 2012, 23:58
Just want to make an observation, I have been stepping back from any situation that feels like its pushing me to engage. Now I am seeing why, It seems that tensions are very high right now, many people are getting easily offended everywhere !

My intuition is telling me, dont allow it to attach and step back to see the picture more clearly. Makes me wonder what exactly is behind this and the first thing that comes to mind is that we are being set up to play out exactly how they want.

These pictures are an idea of what I have been seeing almost daily lately.
1895318954

Have seen on a few threads where tensions are high.

Just my own observation.
A
sorry for getting off topic.

speaking of Koch... &^%$#

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=18953&d=1350579510&thumb=1

Belle
27th October 2012, 00:31
From a famous Russian author...


“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn

I think of this quote often...it is why the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution of the United States (referring to the right to bear arms) is so important to American citizens.

An armed populace has caused my country to hesitate in moving against us...instead Congress passes laws and the POTUS writes executive orders taking what's left of our 'freedoms' away one by one.

They have been trying diligently create a situation that would 'allow' them to disarm the public and move against them...the situation described in the OP's article would fit the bill nicely.

Kiforall
27th October 2012, 00:31
Just like any form of retraining, as we are doing, towards the end of a behaviour change there is always one last push. The last weapon in their arsenal the suicide virus.

However you look at suicide it tends to come before death or the Love you need.

What we are seeing are the last Demons leaving humanity but putting up one hell of a good last fight.

Don't be drawn into the battle, the battle is within the bodies of these sick, perverted, murdering *****.

Do not fight beings whose pure intentions are equal to your own.

This energy is better used to stoke our positive intention to bring the ******** down. Peacefully :grouphug:

All the Mother's who have cried over that last few days must send out Love to the Men who are hurting just like we have. We let it out with tears, they let it out in anger, our job is to put the fire out with our water.

Love to you All.

Zoe x

Kiforall
27th October 2012, 00:50
The riots in Spain have not been well televised but I watched one yesterday where peaceful protest tactics and the use of positive energy was amazing. It was like they were holding a force field of riot shields out in front of them.
The riot footage is towards the very end but the video is worth watching if you haven't seen it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FO3Gibi5Gc&list=FL2mn_uo62SKg9RJZNpdrobg&index=6&feature=plpp_video

TargeT
27th October 2012, 04:02
I am talking recalling troops from around the world and letting them grow up and find their own peace...

they may be older by far than this lil old trouble making country, but they've been warring for thousands of years on their own, all I've known is peace

it's easy to hate America, but you are an exception. you've had rulers that kill off a few hundred thousand of your own people and call it a day...

we have a tendril of Russia controlling America right now, so don't be sticking your nose in the air calling your country perfect either...

Russia is still dragging the tea party around by their noses...


I don't think you could possibly find a way to come off as more of a crazy leftwinger...

I don't mind statements like this, but come on, lets back up our rhetoric eh?

I was involved with the Tea party briefly, there was no central control, there was no out side control, we didn't even have a true "leader" (though "leaders" did rise to the occasion, as is common to all social interaction) can you show something that gives you this "Russian influence" impression?

I eventually left because political groups like that are very close minded, very left right... you're not still stuck in duality are you?

Rocky_Shorz
27th October 2012, 04:58
if you noticed the storm turned from New York towards Russia...

there is a reason behind much of what I do that very few understand...

getting mad at Koch linked to Stalin was what I had to do, sorry about the disruption, storm is rolling away, sun has calmed down...

it's all good...