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baddbob
26th October 2012, 20:33
You just got a laugh at this Tagg Romney, the son of Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, has purchased electronic voting machines that will be used in the 2012 elections in Ohio, Texas, Oklahoma, Washington and Colorado

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Flash
26th October 2012, 20:47
I am a Canadian, and I will say exactly that: Oh, he won and HE OWNS the voting machine, ha ha ha, this must be in a very corrupt country or in a dictatorship. Wait, not a dictatorship, there they do not even do a make belief voting, nobody is ever invited in an election, they are banned. Therefore it is in one of those poor and corrupt country, Venezuela or Cambodia or...

What, this is in the US, you are dreaming no! fu sh where are they going??? What is happening? I hope any real good American caring for his country will catch that one, something is wrong. Wow!

Ellisa
27th October 2012, 00:53
Answer to the question-----

NO!

Flash says it all!

Gardener
27th October 2012, 01:40
OMG................speachless................OMG
It's a joke right?


Isn't it?

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:pop2:

onawah
27th October 2012, 02:05
It's certainly NOT right, very wrong, in fact, though the information is correct, and no, it's not a joke, unfortunately....

The Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), the United Nations 'partner' which is going to be monitoring the voting for fraud...well, let's just hope someone is monitoring them, or there are some good guys in their midst who will see to it that their findings are reported.
If not, and the election is stolen yet again, the GOP will no doubt use the public's misguided trust in the UN to make it all look legit.

See:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/25/1150082/-TAGG-OF-TRICKS-Word-Surfaces-that-Romney-s-Family-Owns-Voting-Machines-in-Swing-States

Thu Oct 25, 2012 at 10:45 AM PDT
TAGG OF TRICKS: Word Surfaces that Romney's Family Owns Voting Machines in Swing States

In the final weeks before the 2012 election, cries of GOP voter suppression from social justice groups such as the ACLU and the NAACP have intensified as attempted voter fraud appears to be linked to the Republican National Committee itself. It has gotten so bad that the United Nations may be needed to monitor the U.S. election.

The U.N., in fact, agrees with this sense of urgency and has agreed to send international officials to monitor the almost inevitable suppression tactics that could call into question yet another U.S. Presidential election. Via The Hill:

United Nations-affiliated election monitors from Europe and central Asia will be at polling places around the U.S. looking for voter suppression activities by conservative groups, a concern raised by civil rights groups during a meeting this week. The intervention has drawn criticism from a prominent conservative-leaning group combating election fraud.

The Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), a United Nations partner on democratization and human rights projects, will deploy 44 observers from its human rights office around the country on Election Day to monitor an array of activities, including potential disputes at polling places. It’s part of a broader observation mission that will send out an additional 80 to 90 members of parliament from nearly 30 countries. . . .

The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, the NAACP and the ACLU, among other groups, warned this month in a letter to Daan Everts, a senior official with OSCE, of “a coordinated political effort to disenfranchise millions of Americans — particularly traditionally disenfranchised groups like minorities.”

This reaction comes following a year of Republican attempts to implement strict voter ID guidelines without just cause. But suppressive laws may not end up being the most dubious matter in the 2012 Presidential election's battle for authenticity. A series of investigative reports have found that Mitt Romney's family has invested heavily in a company that owns electronic voting machines in the swing states of Ohio, Texas, Oklahoma, Washington and Colorado:

"Late last month, Gerry Bello and Bob Fitrakis at FreePress.org broke the story of the Mitt Romney/Bain Capital investment team involved in H.I.G. Capital which, in July of 2011, completed a "strategic investment" to take over a fair share of the Austin-based e-voting machine company Hart Intercivic,"

In July!? For an election in November!? Come, come now.

An article by one independent journalist does not make something true, even if that independent journalist is as respected as Brad Friedman of The Brad Blog. Heck, left-leaning site Think Progress was quick to write this off as conspiracy theory, but other progressive sites such as Truthout, The Nation and, most surprisingly, The New York Times, decided to investigate further. They have all now connected the same dots and concluded that Romney may, in the end, own your eVote.

From Truth Out:

Through a closely held equity fund called Solamere, Mitt Romney and his wife, son and brother are major investors in an investment firm called H.I.G. Capital. H.I.G. in turn holds a majority share and three out of five board members in Hart Intercivic, a company that owns the notoriously faulty electronic voting machines that will count the ballots in swing state Ohio November 7. Hart machines will also be used elsewhere in the United States.

In other words, a candidate for the presidency of the United States, and his brother, wife and son, have a straight-line financial interest in the voting machines that could decide this fall's election. These machines cannot be monitored by the public. But they will help decide who "owns" the White House."


If it's possible to pick a "worst" part of something this awful it may be the implication that Romney-owned voting machines appear in Ohio, the state where the legitimacy of George W. Bush's 2004 win was a, um...delicate matter:

They are especially crucial in Ohio, without which no Republican candidate has ever won the White House. In 2004, in the dead of election night, an electronic swing of more than 300,000 votes switched Ohio from the John Kerry column to George W. Bush, giving him a second term. A virtual statistical impossibility, the 6-plus% shift occurred between 12:20 and 2am election night as votes were being tallied by a GOP-controlled information technology firm on servers in a basement in Chattanooga, Tennessee. In defiance of a federal injunction, 56 of Ohio's 88 counties destroyed all election records, making a recount impossible. Ohio's governor and secretary of state in 2004 were both Republicans, as are the governors and secretaries of state in nine key swing states this year.

The tactics used by the GOP during this election cycle have not been limited to slanted attack ads paid for with dark money or oh-so-pedestrian workplace intimidation. No, laws suddenly needed some altering to make sure this thing went their way. Better yet, let's just Diebolt this sumbitch.

If only there were a system in place to sound some kind of national alarm that let John Q. Public know one of the two candidates owns voting machines that cannot be monitored by anybody.

So what now? If Romney wins -- especially if more information on these elicit voting machine purchases surfaces -- it will undoubtedly be a tarnished election. Lawsuits are already being predicted and pursued. For those (not) keeping score at home this will mean three of the past four U.S. Presidential elections will have been viewed suspiciously or wind up in court.

The idea that American elections are "free and open," something we have tried to fashion ourselves as a policeman for overseas, is in danger of becoming illegitimate.

Referee
27th October 2012, 04:32
Truth is stranger then fiction. You couldn't write a better screenplay!

Jules
27th October 2012, 05:38
Well why would an ubber-rich politician want to own voting machines that have an impact on if he wins? Conflict of interest in a fair election, probably! The sad thing is that those who vote for him will defend him until the end, and vote for him again. Brainwashed society, you think? The fact he is so blatant about purchasing such machines would be a reason not to vote for him, but if elections are fixed, why bother? Also electoral votes usually override the people vote, so yes, you are right, we are not a free society if we really look at what goes on and really think. Sometimes it is easier not to think, but in the long run, not better.

Flash
27th October 2012, 05:39
This should definitely go viral before it is too late. And Obama supporters have to turn out in great number to counterbalance the fraud to come in the other camp.

annacherie
27th October 2012, 14:09
Huffington post has a piece on this issue this morning . Also here is further explanation to Romney ties to drug cartels and money laundering: http://truth-out.org/news/item/12231-employees-of-romney-familys-secret-bank-tied-to-fraud-money-laundering-and-drug-cartels

Sidney
27th October 2012, 21:49
IMO it doesn't really matter at this point in the game. Even if it was on the 6 oclock news, no one would give a S**t. Not enough to do anything. It really is a joke along with every other corrupt system we participate in willingly. I don't vote, haven't for years because they are rigged anyway, no matter who owns the machines.

Paul
28th October 2012, 04:55
IMO it doesn't really matter at this point in the game. Even if it was on the 6 oclock news, no one would give a S**t.
In his latest interview on Veritas Radio, Clif High anticipates that the USA Presidential election on November 6, 2012 will be a controversial election, somewhat in the manner that the year 2000 election of George W. Bush over Al Gore was controversial. Clif anticipates that Obama will be the one to back down this time, making Romney the next President, but only after many more Americans are dismayed with the corruption of USA elections.

Clif says that "confusion will reign" during and after the election date, and that a few days after the election, the "anxiety over the election results" will shift to "anxiety over the integrity of the process."

You can listen to the first hour (and to the second hour if you're a Veritas subscriber) at http://www.veritasradio.com/guests/2012/10oct/VS-121026-chigh.php. The above comments and quotes are from early in the first hour.

Selene
28th October 2012, 15:32
Yes, this is correct. I posted a news story about the Romney investment in the company that makes the voting machines a few days ago as a thread in Current Events here: Election fraud storm-clouds loom over Presidential race http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51186-Election-fraud-storm-clouds-loom-over-Presidential-race

Through a closely held equity fund called Solamere, Mitt Romney and his wife, son and brother are major investors in an investment firm called H.I.G. Capital. H.I.G. in turn holds a majority share and three out of five board members in Hart Intercivic, a company that owns the notoriously faulty electronic voting machines that will count the ballots in swing state Ohio November 7. Hart machines will also be used elsewhere in the United States ( Hart Intercivic).

In other words, a candidate for the presidency of the United States, and his brother, wife and son, have a straight-line financial interest in the voting machines that could decide this fall’s election. These machines cannot be monitored by the public. But they will help decide who “owns” the White House.

Also, to complicate the picture on election day - for all you astrologers out there - Mercury goes retrograde that day…… Let the games begin, no?

Cheers,

Selene