The Physics of Consciousness w/ guest: Dr. Steven Greer – 08/30/10

[Swami]

This week are joined by Dr. Steven Greer, founder of the Orion Project and the Disclosure Project. Dr. Greer is physician, ufologist, author, and lecturer ; He was the first to coin the term, “Close Encounters of the 5th Kind” and teaches people how initiate contact with extraterrestrial intelligence.

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http://truthfrequencyradio.com/podcasts/truthfrequency_08_30_10_Steven_Greer_128k.mp3

What are your opinions on Steven Greer?

[MariaDine]

I agree with him. Once disclosure, by the goverments, officially takes place, people around the world will be shocked. And the door will open to political and economical unrest. Questions will be put to the Organizations and the responsability will be a huge issue. .............They have created a «monster» and we all have to be very responsable, because putting the blame on them won't solve anything.

Those who already know have to look at the present.......

[MariaDine]

The water in our world is one of major issues. It is constantly being supervised.

[MariaDine]

http://perpustakaan.blogspot.com/2009/07/aliens-love-water-ufo-clue-to-be-found.html

[wynderer]

I agree with him. Once disclosure, by the goverments, officially takes place, people around the world will be shocked. And the door will open to political and economical unrest. Questions will be put to the Organizations and the responsability will be a huge issue. .............They have created a «monster» and we all have to be very responsable, because putting the blame on them won't solve anything.

Those who already know have to look at the present.......

i don't agree that humans will freak out when /if the truth that ETs are here is officially announced -- i often bring up the subject of UFOs [ not so much ETs] w/people when we are just chatting -- many people have seen them, or know someone who has -- i think people will be able to deal w/it -- then, too, the massmedia is psychologically preparing people, especially children , along the lines of 'greys & reptilians are our friends'

if 'disclosure' occurs as a mass appearance all over the world of ships of the NWO-aligned ETs, here to take over , perhaps in the guise of saviours, then humans would do well to be worried

i don't agree w/Mr Greer & the other exopoliticians that all ETs are benevolent

[Moemers]

You know, I have to say that I honestly don't believe that Greer thinks all ETs are benevolent. I actually think it's not that easy, but people seem to want to make this issue black and white.

I think that these beings would be so far advanced that to say, surely, "benevolent" or "malevolent", black or white, just isn't possible unless you approach the problem from our level of understanding, which I would assume is far off base from the way things actually are.

If someone can show me definitively where Greer says "All ETs are benevolent" I would be very interested to see it.

[wynderer]

You know, I have to say that I honestly don't believe that Greer thinks all ETs are benevolent. I actually think it's not that easy, but people seem to want to make this issue black and white.

I think that these beings would be so far advanced that to say, surely, "benevolent" or "malevolent", black or white, just isn't possible unless you approach the problem from our level of understanding, which I would assume is far off base from the way things actually are.

If someone can show me definitively where Greer says "All ETs are benevolent" I would be very interested to see it.

well, i do know that one of his proteges, Jeff Peckman, said so on both David Letterman & Larry King [very odd that Mr Peckman, whom i met, & who in his own words is new to the field of ufology, was selected & introduced as a 'UFO expert' on both these shows]

http://www.extracampaign.org/

[MariaDine]

I said what I said. I'm sorry you didn't understand. ,,,Ans I never said they are or aren't benovelent. I just made a an obsevation. There are many people in the world who don't even know what a UFO is, and many who do , don't belive in their existence. The water is a major issue. That I know for sure.

Namaste
MD

[Menkaure]

One thing disclosure will bring, along with the obvious, the attending free energy, high tec, etc... will start the biggest industrial revolution this world will ever see. Everyone will have a job and the oil mongers will be out of business.

[wynderer]

One thing disclosure will bring, along with the obvious, the attending free energy, high tec, etc... will start the biggest industrial revolution this world will ever see. Everyone will have a job and the oil mongers will be out of business.

but why do we have to wait for officials in suits & uniforms to tell us ETs are here before we have access to free energy?

[The One]

Once we are told then the new world will begin. All the lies secrecy cover-ups will come to an end and all those people who have been involved in the cover-up their time will come to an end. Those people are not ready to disclose anything as when they do they don’t know what their fate will be. Let’s not forget these people have been hiding behind themselves for years and are nothing but cowards. One day the truth will come and there won’t be a thing any of the American governments can do to stop it.

[Luke]

Remember that any official "disclosure" would happen within confines of the system. Where power structure want them and when they want them. It's part of power play.'
Even cliche "take us to your leader" is a meme that informs you that they acknowledge our pyramid of power and that they have similar one.
What would be disclosed would be meeting of empires. A show of power designed to crush parts of resistance.

Tolkien wrote about dangers of using tools of the enemy, even if you would do "good" with them. Way I see it this is one of cases. Black tech is another.

On the other hand, important thing is how we perceive universe: as a hostile place or a place to grow, beautiful and dangerous. This is crucial to what we project into "global field". How we see "aliens" is another. How we see what "advanced" civilization is another. Do we see as sovereigns or "poor cousins" or maybe serfs? Do we see "aliens" as saviours, masters, brothers, friends? What we believe in shapes the reality.

You cannot consider these things in separation. There are no separate boxes of "System" "Disclosure" "technology" "energy" morality" "religion" "economy" etc. It is all interconnected, one issue is tied to another and cannot be debated separately.

In the end it boils down to what world you want.

[wynderer]

I said what I said. I'm sorry you didn't understand. ,,,Ans I never said they are or aren't benovelent. I just made a an obsevation. There are many people in the world who don't even know what a UFO is, and many who do , don't belive in their existence. The water is a major issue. That I know for sure.

Namaste
MD

speaking of water -- i was told that Dick Cheney owns all the water rights in the Front Range of the Rocky Mtns

Definition of FRONT RANGE
range of the Rockies extending from central Colorado N into SE Wyoming [from the online Merriam-Webster dictionary]

& some years ago, as part of a local political group, i did some research re who controls the water of the St Lawrence Seaway -- at the time i could find out only that the management of it had been passed from gov't agents to private hands, more of the scary corporate 'privitazation' going on all over the world -- Wikipedia, below, lists 2 of the corporations now controlling the Seaway

The Saint Lawrence Seaway (St. Lawrence Seaway), in French: la Voie Maritime du Saint-Laurent, is the common name for a system of locks, canals and channels that permits ocean-going vessels to travel from the Atlantic Ocean to the North American Great Lakes, as far as Lake Superior. Legally it extends from Montreal to Lake Erie, including the Welland Canal. The seaway is named after the Saint Lawrence River, which it follows from Lake Ontario to the Atlantic Ocean. This section of the seaway is not a continuous canal, but rather comprises stretches of navigable channels within the river, a number of locks, as well as canals made to bypass rapids and dams in the waterway. A number of locks are managed by the Canadian Saint Lawrence Seaway Management Corporation and others by the U.S. Saint Lawrence Seaway Development Corporation. [from Wikipedia]

control/cut off the water & food, & you can easily bring a population to their knees

[this is off-topic --sorry]

[Luke]

(...) management of it had been passed from gov't agents to private hands, more of the scary corporate 'privitazation' going on all over the world -- Wikipedia, below, lists 2 of the corporations now controlling the Seaway
Excuse me, do you REALLY think that there is any difference if something is state controlled or in "private hands"?
Just another illusion to dupe the gullible.

[wynderer]

Excuse me, do you REALLY think that there is any difference if something is state controlled or in "private hands"?
Just another illusion to dupe the gullible.

no -- no difference -- it's just becoming more blatant now --