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NewFounderHome
6th November 2012, 02:21
Hurricane SANDY Victims seem to be forgotten by the rest of the US. Don't get me wrong here. We all know then the US citizens of the US cannot put there hope in having help when needed in crises from the red cross, FEMA and more.

It is to the rest of the country to mobilize and take action. Don't wait for the government or other so call groups to help your folks in need. Don't be blinded by the elections and CNN and .....

As of right know, those folks are missing gas, food, medical, for no good raison. Groups from the outside of the crises area are being turned back, electrician and more are turned back and there are still live wires across some roads.

I'm outside the US and if this is true, the US citizens should take it seems swift and urgent fast action to help there brothers and sisters.

I hope, I'm way off track. I really hope so! :help::cheer2::yo:

Rocky_Shorz
6th November 2012, 03:06
I gave to Occupy donations, but from this side, there isn't much else I can do, I have a lot of friends on twitter so have been following it there, the election passes tomorrow then news will get back to hurricane coverage instead of this never ending election.

Rocky_Shorz
6th November 2012, 03:12
they need generators to power the 600K homes still waiting for electricity. still gas stations without power so lines at the others can be up to 6 hours

Electric crews from New Orleans are working along with ones from all the surrounding states, but it is really messed up.

they are opening heated centers for this storm rolling in so people have places to go to keep from freezing.

but all help is appreciated, Occupy wall street has medical centers set up in the worst hit areas helping everyone in need so I recommend if you are going to give, send it that way

WhiteFeather
6th November 2012, 09:25
Things are slowly getting better, Power is out in those critical locations, generators would be a big plus to help the homeowners in utilizing power tools, and to heat their homes etc....
Red Cross is clueless. Volunteers here in staten island who come around with food, clothes, gloves,water etc. have been incredible. Gas stations are still a problem. I couldn't say enough for the NYC Sanitation Dept, Tops in my book. I have yet to see the national guard get their boots and uniforms dirty, they walk around like royalty.

WhiteFeather
6th November 2012, 09:29
PS. I'd be weary to send money, I'm afraid it would go to the wrong hands, this is my opinion. Food in the staten island area is plentiful

Axman
6th November 2012, 14:40
The Red Cross will make you pay them back heard this over and over and have a family member that it happened to.

The Axman

GlassSteagallfan
6th November 2012, 15:01
Brooklyn Residents: "We Can't Live Like Rats Anymore"

November 6, 2012 • 10:35AM

As of election eve, hundreds of thousands of people, in the New York City boroughs, and nearby New Jersey in particular, are in life-threatening conditions of frigid weather, no electricity, no food, no security, and a state of terror. The core of the storm hit the most densely populated center of North America.

There are now hundreds of thousands of households, either homeless, or in unlivable circumstances. This ranges from those who are safe, but displaced because their home was destroyed or damaged, to those in unsafe apartment buildings, to those in care centers, evacuated to temp circumstances, but with no immediate recourse.

For the 400,000 New Yorkers resident in hundreds of the 2,600 buildings operated by the NYC Housing Authority, thousands, as of Nov. 1, were in 267 tenement buildings with no power, no security, no food, and many with no water. The public housing units hardnest hit were on the shoreline areas: Coney Island (Brooklyn), Rockaway Beach (Queens), Alphabet City, Long Island. For example, LaGuardia Houses and Vladock Houses on the Lower East Side of Manhattan. These have become houses of terror—for robbery, disease and despair.

A clip from Fox TV yesterday puts flesh and blood on the story:

A resident of the NYC Public Housing facility in Red Hook, said this to reporters, after, on Day 8, no aid has come to the building. 'No one has answered our pleas.' There is no water and no electricity. Many have been holed up all week, never daring to come out. The hallways are pitch black. There is no emergency lighting. No heat. No sanitation. The stairwells are stench pits of human waste people are avoiding to have inside their apartments. The building is over 10 stories high. The gas is still on, so people are using their stoves for heat, creating a terrible fire hazard. "We can't live like rats any more."

Finally Monday, the Red Cross has arrived with emergency food trucks. The National Guard has sent staff for a walking tour to check on the building and households.

Marines and Navy sailors have also finally been deployed to some of the beach areas hardest hit, pumping out water, and doing other heavy chores.

The kicker, however, is that there is no solution within the current long-term policy. Housing is a salient example. There is no 'excess' housing in which to put the tens of thousands of people who have had their homes destroyed, or made unlivable, precisely due to the "planned shrinkage" policies of the British-Wall Street financial elite that have run the country for the past 50-60 years. Whole sections of the city, as well as industry, have been triaged. Now, with this disaster, the prevailing policy—as reflected in Bloomberg, Christie, and Obama—is simply to triage more areas. British-style genocide—until we make the policy revolution required.

Source: http://larouchepac.com/node/24396

WhiteFeather
6th November 2012, 15:32
Heavy Chemtrail activity here in NY area, I sh!t you not. Looks like they are gearing up the skys for another storm these scumbags.

NewFounderHome
6th November 2012, 19:15
Is this good, I don't now. http://interoccupy.net/newswire/

NewFounderHome
6th November 2012, 19:34
It seems there should be sent out some folks to scout the area and send back video and picture. All the crises area split in sectors and have an scout for each area that sends an assesment of what is not covered in a given area. (Example: The scout would say, area1, live wires on road X and Y, not electricity in the following gas stations, % of time the rest of the gas station stay open for lake of gas. Missing food in X area of sector 1 and more ....) This could all be on a website open to all the public to see the status and offer help.

And no I'm not talking of boy scouts. I'm thinking of folks that can make it in the rough. Hunters, hikers, that type of folks. I'm not saying they can't help by no means. But not in this first type of level.

NewFounderHome
6th November 2012, 19:46
Staten Island Sandy victims: We're being ignored

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57544180/staten-island-sandy-victims-were-being-ignored/

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http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/29/us/tropical-weather-sandy/index.html

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http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/11/hurricane-sandy-the-aftermath/100397/

NewFounderHome
6th November 2012, 19:54
#OccupySandy Interactive Map

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=206492888572549024713.0004cdadcaea40cfa4c9 d&msa=0

NewFounderHome
6th November 2012, 19:58
Imagine if every major city in the US would look after a Sandy crises are. Wounder what could come out of that.

NewFounderHome
6th November 2012, 20:08
Here is something I did find else where.

Help Hurricane Sandy Victims Beyond Donating to the Red Cross

This is from Kiri Blakeley, The Stir, November 5, 2012
http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/146064/8_ways_to_help_hurricane

If you watched the Hurricane Sandy relief telethon and texted $10 to the Red Cross when Bruce rocked or Christina crooned, then you are certainly not alone. The telethon raised $23 million dollars for Sandy’s victims.

But some of you may be wondering how you can do more. And you may want to know that your money is really going to the victims. I’ve been following the storm’s aftermath very intensely, as many of the areas right around me are devastated.

I’ve been keeping track of the groups that are on the ground and the ones that are MIA.

I’ve been asking people who they saw when they came out of their storm-ripped home looking for help. Most of the time, the answer I got was not FEMA or the Red Cross. If you still want to help, here are 8 ways you can help beyond donating to the Red Cross.

Donate to:

AmeriCares. AmeriCares has been delivering flashlights, bottled water, first aid kits, and medical help to those who need it in both states. A day after I delivered 20 flashlights to flooded and still-powerless Red Hook, Brooklyn, AmeriCares swooped in with thousands of them.

Occupy Sandy. An offshoot of Occupy Wall Street, this is one of the first groups I heard about who went directly into hard-hit neighborhoods and began coordinating food, clothing, and supplies drives, going door to door, and checking on elderly people in cold, darkened buildings. They seem to do it all — a friend of mine who became stranded after a mercy mission when his car battery died even had an Occupier drive him home.

Gray Beards. I’ve heard many reports from locals that Gray Beards is on the ground in some of the worst hit areas of New York, including the leveled Breezy Point, a working class neighborhood of many firemen and policemen, where 100 homes burned to the ground.

ASPCA. The ASPCA is helping rescue stranded pets as well as giving pet food to those in need. They were the first group I saw with a dedicated emergency pet rescue hotline and they have been going door to door looking for abandoned animals.

Sean Casey Animal Rescue. This group has been taking in a lot of rescued and abandoned pets, especially dogs, from the shore areas of Brooklyn, which were hit particularly hard. But they also have taken in turtles, birds, cats and snakes.

Alley Cat Allies. This group has been all over New York and New Jersey feeding the feral cats who were left behind after the storm, including the famous outdoor cats of the Atlantic City boardwalk, most of whom miraculously survived the ‘cane.

Find out what is really needed. Most groups are too busy right now to update their websites. Check their Facebook pages and follow them on Twitter. You’ll be able to find out exactly what they need through those channels.

If you’d rather donate supplies than money, check their Facebook walls for an Amazon gift registry.

When in doubt, call the group and ask what they need. Some things that are always needed: Bottled water, toiletries (toothbrushes, toothpaste, hand wipes), WARM clothes like coats and gloves, waterproof boots, flashlights, C and D batteries, and cleaning supplies.

Be proactive. Call your local church or school — most are holding Sandy donation drives. If your church is collecting lots of non-perishable food, you might suggest collecting batteries and Clorox too. And remember, it pays to do a little research on a group before writing out a check.

Be wary of donating to sob stories you see on ChipIn and Facebook without verifying that they’re true.

GlassSteagallfan
6th November 2012, 21:25
Heavy Chemtrail activity here in NY area, I sh!t you not. Looks like they are gearing up the skys for another storm these scumbags.


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Here is looking east from the Berkshires. Not too bad, yet. But they are active now.

EsmaEverheart
6th November 2012, 22:30
My heart goes out to these people. I had to go without power 11 days during winter one time because an ice storm snapped every power pole in a 50 mile radius. I had a wood burning fireplace so I didn't freeze to death. I think it is disgraceful that these people are not getting the aid they need. So what agency would be the best to donate to? I was thinking the Red Cross.

WhiteFeather
7th November 2012, 00:46
Gas is still an issue here in this 3rd world country we call Staten Island, i am getting a lil annoyed, i filled up my work truck in NJ. Its about 10 miles from Staten Island,,,,,, no lines and 70 cents cheaper, i sh.t you not... I really don't F....ng understand it......Everyone should just drive to Jersey and F...k em all....

NewFounderHome
7th November 2012, 01:48
Gas is still an issue here in this 3rd world country we call Staten Island, i am getting a lil annoyed, i filled up my work truck in NJ. Its about 10 miles from Staten Island,,,,,, no lines and 70 cents cheaper, i sh.t you not... I really don't F....ng understand it......Everyone should just drive to Jersey and F...k em all....

Hang in there ! we have you in our minds. But I know it won't fill a tank of gas, or give food or even shelter, sorry for that!

NewFounderHome
7th November 2012, 05:37
bounce! to the top.

Rocky_Shorz
7th November 2012, 15:21
PS. I'd be weary to send money, I'm afraid it would go to the wrong hands, this is my opinion. Food in the staten island area is plentiful

The people running occupy wall street Sandy Recovery aren't in it for the money, they've been working so hard on helping people, that one they did, sent them 2000 pieces of pie...

there is plenty of money being pumped in, but they were already a movement to help the homeless.

they have the people that like helping others, some heros tucked in amongst them that want no glory, just to see smiles from those in need...

how is everyone preparing for the noreastern about to hit?


link to one of their info sources

https://twitter.com/OWSUpdate

ulli
7th November 2012, 15:35
Was just watching the video from this site. Heart wrenching.

http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/videos/activism/rockaway-needs-us-.html

NewFounderHome
7th November 2012, 22:47
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RbMX2A545Wo&noredirect=1

NewFounderHome
10th November 2012, 05:05
Bump!:ear:

NewFounderHome
12th November 2012, 00:47
What are folks thought about what is being taken as action? How is it going in those areas, and what is being done.

Earth Angel
12th November 2012, 01:45
thanks for bumping the thread NFH, I wonder what's really going on ....I read somewhere that Bloomberg was turning away food that was sent to help NewYorkers because they didn't know the salt, fat content, this just reminds me of Michael Beckwiths comment that the world has taken a crazy pill!.....volunteer electricians from Florida were turned away because they were NOT UNION !!!! ......I was just on Hope Girls site and she is stating that things are MUCH worse than we are being told by the Lame Stream Media ...... makes me wonder about this Petraeus story, is it just another thing to distract peoples attention from what is NOT being done in these hard hit area's ?

NYC Mayor Bans Food Donations to Homeless

“It's not that we question the generous intent of these donations,” Bloomberg reassured. “It's just that we have no way of guaranteeing the quality of the donated food. The risk is that donor ignorance could result in excessive amounts of salt and fat in the diets of these unfortunates.”

yea better that they starve to death than overdo it on the salt and fat :mad2:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2958029/posts (http://http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2958029/posts)

blufire
12th November 2012, 02:21
For the past 2 or 3 years and especially the last year there have been a handful of us on PA begging people to be prepared and become as self reliant as possible. . . . We have been shouted down and labeled low vibrating 3rd dimensionally trapped pathetic fear mongers.

Sandy is a tiny sample of what we could see in the very near future. If you are prepared as much as possible then your ability to help your neighbors and community will fall in place.

Here in my area we received 14 inches of heavy wet snow that put three counties in the dark. We got our power restored a week earlier than expected by organizing and deploying our own work crews that cleared the debris so the power trucks could concentrate on the lines. Instead of badgering and bitching at the power company crews we fed them and gave THEM as many comforts as they needed.

NewFounderHome
14th November 2012, 06:31
For the past 2 or 3 years and especially the last year there have been a handful of us on PA begging people to be prepared and become as self reliant as possible. . . . We have been shouted down and labeled low vibrating 3rd dimensionally trapped pathetic fear mongers.

Sandy is a tiny sample of what we could see in the very near future. If you are prepared as much as possible then your ability to help your neighbors and community will fall in place.

Here in my area we received 14 inches of heavy wet snow that put three counties in the dark. We got our power restored a week earlier than expected by organizing and deploying our own work crews that cleared the debris so the power trucks could concentrate on the lines. Instead of badgering and bitching at the power company crews we fed them and gave THEM as many comforts as they needed.

I guess what get me wondering several question is WHY is the US population not taking more action. Forget about the NY Bloomberg or FEMA and all the other so call groups.
The normal population can't all be looking at the Sunday football at the same time? or are not all in the churches all week.

It makes me think when I went to visit some family in Haiti in the 90's and I was pointed a dead person on the ground and folks where going about the daily business, without any concerns in the world.

US brothers and sisters don't seem to look after one and another.

Well that must be the new USofA of doing stuff now.

NewFounderHome
14th November 2012, 13:44
Well I guess I will stop bringing up this subject. That is sad to see the reaction of the folks!

Have a nice one!

gripreaper
6th December 2012, 15:19
To add insult to injury, people are being cited for not cleaning up their yards fast enough.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/12/04/new-york-city-hits-sandy-victims-with-failure-to-maintain-property-citation/

blufire
6th December 2012, 18:06
This comment will be unpopular I’m sure . . . .

The article said they (people who received citation) were waiting for the city to come remove the tree. It took the city two weeks to get to their property to remove it.

My guess is the municipalities are trying to urge to property owners to do their share cleaning up their own properties.

I’m sure there are many property owners doing little to nothing waiting for the government (fema) and city utilities to come do it for them.

Be responsible people . . . think for yourselves . . . organize groups around your own neighborhood and get it done.

There are people (in each area) who can run chainsaws and know how to remove trees . . . its not hard. Others remove debris to proper location, others to patch temporarily, others to cook food and bring water and drinks to work crews, involve children to teach them responsibility . . .watch their little faces shine with work well done.

Stop waiting for someone to do it for you.

Again this (Hurricane Sandy) is a small example of what may be to come . . . get a game plan now and be ready to implement.