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Rocky_Shorz
6th November 2012, 23:06
Well it's about to start, after months of fighting bickering and insane ads running continuously on every channel...

Tonight is the night, but it might be 2 weeks before we know who won...

Ohio and Pennsylvania eVoting machine problems and Hurricane Sandy delaying voting until Friday in New Jersey

this is the tightest race any of us have ever watched almost a split down the middle since the beginning.

all I ask is be nice to each other when this is done, let's give each other hugs and move forward either way...

Huffington Post results (http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results)

still searching for a map I can post in for everyone to watch...

Paul
6th November 2012, 23:28
Huffington Post results (http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results)
Thanks, Rocky - that will be a useful link to tonight's results.

I also posted a map showing what results to expect to come in, when, in another post at USA election results - useful map for evening of Nov 6, 2012 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51751-USA-election-results-useful-map-for-evening-of-Nov-6-2012), which has a link to a ZeroHedge map and chart at http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2012/10-2/electoral%20college%20info.jpg.

I'll leave that ZeroHedge map thread separate from this thread.

Your Huffington Post results (http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results) link and this thread could be the better place to follow the election.

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Oh - and I changed this thread's title from "Election Results - 2012" to "US Presidential Election Results - Nov 2012" :)

Rocky_Shorz
6th November 2012, 23:34
Thanks Paul, looked at ZeroHedge and it is mostly filled in from expected results, hoping to be seeing this one filling as the evening goes on...

The Huffington post link has good info on state by state results for Senate and House too...

looking for a pastable live image still .)

noxon medem
6th November 2012, 23:34
..
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Word :
Together

.....

&
A possible U.S key word :
of the day ..

Hypocrisy !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy

Hypocrisy is the state of promoting or administering virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that one does not actually have or is also guilty of violating. Hypocrisy often involves the deception of others and thus can be considered a kind of lie.
Hypocrisy is not simply failing to practice those virtues that one preaches
( an American virtue ..?).

:jester:

..
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Paul
6th November 2012, 23:37
Thanks Paul, looked at ZeroHedge and it is mostly filled in from expected results,
Yes - the ZeroHedge map was pre-election static results. The interesting part of that map was the hours of poll closings, by state, size and likely Presidential winner.

The US election rules allow major news networks to call each state, based on exit polling data (asking voters as they leave the polling place during the day), as soon as the polls have closed in that state.

Rocky_Shorz
6th November 2012, 23:38
..
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A possible U.S key word of the day ..

Hypocrisy !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy

Hypocrisy is the state of promoting or administering virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that one does not actually have or is also guilty of violating. Hypocrisy often involves the deception of others and thus can be considered a kind of lie.
Hypocrisy is not simply failing to practice those virtues that one preaches
( an American virtue ..?).

:jester:

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in this election we call that #Romnesia ;)

Rocky_Shorz
7th November 2012, 02:04
123 to 152 Romney is ahead...

he won all the bible belt states, but looks too close to call in Florida right now...

ghostrider
7th November 2012, 03:20
they call wisconsin for obama and the ticker says romney 53 percent, obama 47percent. ha ha so who really won wisconsin ?? the media really wants obama to stay in power it is so funny , ohhh all he needs is blah blah. two thirds of the US is red and barely one third blue and the talking heads are saying obama obama . Romney so far 18 states, obama 8 and the race is too close to call ????? that dang electorial college .

Paul
7th November 2012, 03:31
they call wisconsin for obama and the ticker says romney 53 percent, obama 47percent. ha ha so who really won wisconsin ??
That's possibly a reasonable situation. Smaller, more rural, typically more conservative (pro Romney) results often come in sooner than larger, more urban, typically more liberal (pro Obama) results. So, with the results part way in, it is possible that Romney could be ahead in the votes counted so far, but not far enough ahead to overcome the reasonably anticipated Obama votes from the urban areas.

Wind
7th November 2012, 03:49
Hoax or genuine? I guess that we'll find out soon enough...

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GaelVictor
7th November 2012, 03:50
Congratulations Obama! Although it was already decided, the earth is a safer place now.

Rocky_Shorz
7th November 2012, 04:10
all of you would be so proud of me, I'm having fun watching Fox for the first time in ummm... ever... ;)

Rocky_Shorz
7th November 2012, 04:13
Romney flew back to Massachusetts to celebrate... Medical Marijuana passed...

now I know where that Romnesia came from... ;)

Marin
7th November 2012, 04:14
And the call was made.... Obama. :)

panopticon
7th November 2012, 04:19
all of you would be so proud of me, I'm having fun watching Fox for the first time in ummm... ever... ;)

Not alone on that one me ol' salt. :popcorn:
The broadcast on Fox here in Oz has 'em saying Obama has won and they're all using the new attack phrases they'll use like he "didn't win the popular vote" and "no mandate".
Kind Regards, :yo:
Panopticon

Carmody
7th November 2012, 04:20
Yeah, it's a done deal. Obama.

And that the classic 'United States of Canada' and 'JesusLand' map is still very relevant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesusland_map

Wind
7th November 2012, 04:22
Congrats, Obummer. Enjoy while you can.

blufire
7th November 2012, 04:25
NWO. . . one massive step closer

Carmody
7th November 2012, 04:34
Yeah, it's a done deal. Obama.

And that the classic 'United States of Canada' and 'JesusLand' map is still very relevant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesusland_map

And that the jesusland map follows the outline, almost perfectly, of the slave states of the old south, during the civil war.

And that the divide between these two 'opponents' :rolleyes: is the same, on that there presidential race color chart. (blue vs red states).

So.....that's a good 150 years later -- same results.

Wut up with them there people? 150 years and they don't learn anything?

Paul
7th November 2012, 04:38
Dang - my prediction of a highly contested election flopped (actually it was Clif High's prediction -- it's his fault! :))

Rocky_Shorz
7th November 2012, 04:42
Karl Rove is losing his mind!!!

anyone watching Fox?

Quote from Trump: "Lets fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice! The world is laughing at us. "

it's just his hair... we can't help it

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/225261_213510275345341_6425473_n.jpg

panopticon
7th November 2012, 04:46
Karl Rove is losing his mind!!!

anyone watching Fox?

Quote from Trump: "Lets fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice! The world is laughing at us. "

it's just his hair... can't help it

He's stuttering and muttering numbers...
Wow, maybe I should watch Fox more often...

Who's the bloke describing Romney as a liberal moderate?

modwiz
7th November 2012, 04:53
..
-

Word :
Together

.....

&
A possible U.S key word :
of the day ..

Hypocrisy !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy

Hypocrisy is the state of promoting or administering virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that one does not actually have or is also guilty of violating. Hypocrisy often involves the deception of others and thus can be considered a kind of lie.
Hypocrisy is not simply failing to practice those virtues that one preaches
( an American virtue ..?).

:jester:

..
-

American virtue has become an oxymoron. The people may not have initiated the process of this becoming, but they have aided and abetted it.

panopticon
7th November 2012, 05:10
My partner just asked "Why do they all look like plastic people?"
I said: "It's Fox News..."
Response: "Ah... America..."
:drama:
Kind Regards, :yo:
Panopticon

modwiz
7th November 2012, 05:18
Yeah, it's a done deal. Obama.

And that the classic 'United States of Canada' and 'JesusLand' map is still very relevant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesusland_map

They really mean Jebusland. Jebus is the creation of Paul and millions of ignorant Americans. Especially the latter. Jesus was Jewish. Jebus is zionist.

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Karl Rove is losing his mind!!!

anyone watching Fox?

Quote from Trump: "Lets fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice! The world is laughing at us. "

it's just his hair... can't help it

He's stuttering and muttering numbers...
Wow, maybe I should watch Fox more often...

Who's the bloke describing Romney as a liberal moderate?

A "special needs" person. FOX(666) employs lots of them.

apokalypse
7th November 2012, 05:23
my friend bring up interesting point, why News Media call so early as a win when the vote only counted no more than 10% or the vote very close. they must be nostradamus...thinking about and look though some of the seat i got strong feeling inside some thing must be going on...

nomadguy
7th November 2012, 05:31
Holy moly, here I thought you were only joking - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jebusite

That Photo of Trump is a classic!

Rozzy
7th November 2012, 06:03
No matter how you slice it, Obama, Romney, America is screwed, it is time to look out for yourselves and make sure you have the resources necessary to get you through the long haul. Credit is going to dry up, cash is losing its value quickly, just like the German Mark in the early nineteen twenties, they never thought it would happen to them either

Flash
7th November 2012, 06:04
Obama wins

Nethanayu must be pi ss ed

Jacovesk still have a lots of threads topics to go :p

Anchor
7th November 2012, 06:05
In breaking news:

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/math.png

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And before that:

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/poll_watching.png

Shamz
7th November 2012, 06:12
I love it....O lesser of 2 evils..
but I want to save all what O said in his second campaign and remind him & the party what he promised ----> Hope he don't take it for granted and act Elite - what he is anyways....

Sometimes I wonder.... if the popular leader do what the average person wants...where would that guy be .. PRESIDENT ... lol ....

I really wish more than that....

Rocky_Shorz
7th November 2012, 06:34
looks like California is striking down the 3 strikes law and changing it to violent crimes only.

that's one I really wanted to see changed...

sleepy
7th November 2012, 06:44
xxxxx xxxxx

Antagenet
7th November 2012, 06:59
Such strange irony, I'm so glad he won, and I detest him so much. Bizarre

araucaria
7th November 2012, 07:13
Dang - my prediction of a highly contested election flopped (actually it was Clif High's prediction -- it's his fault! :))
And that Harman fellow on Veritas was way wrong too :) It's Mercury retrograde's fault really - it doesn't seem to know whether it's coming or going :)

jagman
7th November 2012, 07:23
The President won the election but what he does not have is a mandate. Half of the United States fundamentally disagree With Barack Obama's far Left Ideology. I have never considered myself a Repub Or a Dem. I Always voted for the man who I thought would do the best job. Lets take a look at the facts.
The House still controlled by the Republicans.
The Senate is still controlled by the Democrats
That = GRIDLOCK That will be good for the country.Obama's getting pretty good at signing executive orders.He really doesn't need congress anymore!
Padme says it all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp069Y_P-9M&feature=player_detailpage

Rahkyt
7th November 2012, 08:32
So.....that's a good 150 years later -- same results.

Wut up with them there people? 150 years and they don't learn anything?

Its uncanny how closely the patterns of national behavior on the part of a segment of the population from opinion polls to attitudinal surveys actually resembled the end of the Reconstruction period following the civil war when gains made by the previously enslaved were rolled back and the black codes and jim crow rose, alongside the prison-industrial complex to unequivocably halt the gains of that population.

The crowd in Romney's convention center seemed almost stunned senseless.

araucaria
7th November 2012, 08:37
So.....that's a good 150 years later -- same results.

Wut up with them there people? 150 years and they don't learn anything?

Its uncanny how closely the patterns of national behavior on the part of a segment of the population from opinion polls to attitudinal surveys actually resembled the end of the Reconstruction period following the civil war when gains made by the previously enslaved were rolled back and the black codes and jim crow rose, alongside the prison-industrial complex to unequivocably halt the gains of that population.

The crowd in Romney's convention center seemed almost stunned senseless.

It's called conservatism :)

This election is also a failure for Diebold, who seem to have done just that: die bold!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/electronic-voting-machine-selects-romney-even-when-you-choose-obama-8290030.html

bram
7th November 2012, 08:48
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

aQUAxN9Sxdo

Brilliant song- but I prefer the original, with probably the best drumming ever recorded on a rock song........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q

bram
7th November 2012, 08:51
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

aQUAxN9Sxdo

Brilliant song- but I prefer the original, with probably the best drumming ever recorded on a rock song........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q

Except for this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hje28F-IhLo&feature=related

modwiz
7th November 2012, 10:04
Well, in my estimation, it is either going to be incremental fist closing, as in the current pattern, or,........things are going to get real fooking interesting. I am really hoping Obama is pissed off in a big way at being a puppet and emerges as something nobody saw coming. Except for a few crystal ball owners. Maybe Mordor just put those images there to mess with some heads. We will see.

Fred Steeves
7th November 2012, 11:29
So, the wars will continue right on schedule, we will continue "Forward" into ever deepening bankruptcy, and Homeland Security will continue to grow exponentially, thanks to endless funny money funding. Hooray! (LOL)

I'm actually kind of glad the other puppet didn't win, because 1) It will be interesting to observe just how long Obama supporters continue to look the other way. Can you say 4 more years? I say yes we can. http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/newadditions/smile.gif 2) Will Obama actually have the gaul to continue blaming our every woe on the failures of the Bush years? Hmmm, where's Chester when you need him, I'd like to know the over under on that one.

Cheers, http://www.bigtenfever.com/forums/images/smilies/cheers.gif
Fred

AuCo
7th November 2012, 14:38
Such strange irony, I'm so glad he won, and I detest him so much. Bizarre

Well, I've heard people say "the Devil made me do it" and "Vote Obama" senses were hanging heavily in the air - no need for rigging the voting machines when they can rig people's mind. Argh! Why am I talking nonsense. You'd think my mind is being compromised, too. :o

Rocky_Shorz
7th November 2012, 15:15
well looks like Bankers were surprised this morning by the direction of the market...

so back to the False Flag, terrorist attack we were warned of if Obama won, was arresting the two admirals enough?

Rocky_Shorz
7th November 2012, 15:52
Such strange irony, I'm so glad he won, and I detest him so much. Bizarre

http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/261792/slide_261792_1730848_free.jpg?1352293880892

I have an idea why... ;)

Carmody
7th November 2012, 16:10
looks like California is striking down the 3 strikes law and changing it to violent crimes only.

that's one I really wanted to see changed...

How is that going to play out with those who are already incarcerated? (nevermind, reading now (http://www.hrw.org/news/2012/11/07/uscalifornia-three-strikes-vote-humane-step))

As for the GM labellng, I gardened in my youth, and I can go back to it again. (family farm with a vegetable garden just outside the house). I haven't done it in a while, but it's like riding a bicycle...

Camilo
7th November 2012, 16:24
The Obama victory really doesn't come as a surprise, as it had been well known in the alternative media that the cabal preferred to keep him on instead of going through the not to pleasant process of introducing a new guy to the reality of the US presidency.

blufire
7th November 2012, 16:52
The election results went way way too smooth and easy for such a close race . . . .

I smell a whole herd of really large nasty rodents.

I was waiting to see which puppet the controllers would put in to see what our near future would be.

I feel strongly that if Romney had been put in by the controllers that it would mean that Americans were not demoralized, beat down, brainwashed, terrified. bankrupt enough to go quietly into a the New World Order and Government.

With Obama being kept in position, to me, means Americans will accept fairly quietly what ever fate and process ‘they’ have in store for us.

Congratulations . . . We have made it to the ‘next level’ of the overall plan. Get ready for the really nasty stuff.

So what is YOUR PLAN? Are ya’ goin’ quietly with the flow of lemmings or have you seen your possible Fate and giving it the ‘one finger salute’ and riding out instead to meet you own personal Destiny?

GCS1103
7th November 2012, 17:00
The election results went way way too smooth and easy for such a close race . . . .

I smell a whole herd of really large nasty rodents.

I was waiting to see which puppet the controllers would put in to see what our near future would be.

I feel strongly that if Romney had been put in by the controllers that it would mean that Americans were not demoralized, beat down, brainwashed, terrified. bankrupt enough to go quietly into a the New World Order and Government.

With Obama being kept in position, to me, means Americans will accept fairly quietly what ever fate and process ‘they’ have in store for us.

Congratulations . . . We have made it to the ‘next level’ of the overall plan. Get ready for the really nasty stuff.

So what is YOUR PLAN? Are ya’ goin’ quietly with the flow of lemmings or have you seen your possible Fate and giving it the ‘one finger salute’ and riding out instead to meet you own personal Destiny?


Perfectly stated and 100% correct.

SilentFeathers
7th November 2012, 17:05
I think Romney could of won if he would of promised everyone a free I-pad instead of just a regular cell phone, and also promised everyone a free house by the end of his first term....

Rocky_Shorz
7th November 2012, 17:54
The Obama victory really doesn't come as a surprise, as it had been well known in the alternative media that the cabal preferred to keep him on instead of going through the not to pleasant process of introducing a new guy to the reality of the US presidency.

everyone always talk like there is one "Cabal"

WRONG!!!

white hat / black hats are in a major battle right now, one wants WW III the other doesn't.

Military leaders that can't be trusted getting dragged off from the battle ground should give everyone a hint of who's in control...

blufire
7th November 2012, 18:02
White hat, black hats, purple hats, little generals, big generals, this cabal, that cabel, this war, the next war . . . none of that matters Rocky. NONE. They are all pawns in the bigger picture too . . . just like the main population of humanity

You have to go a lot deeper . . . a whole lot deeper than what you THINK you see on the surface.







The Obama victory really doesn't come as a surprise, as it had been well known in the alternative media that the cabal preferred to keep him on instead of going through the not to pleasant process of introducing a new guy to the reality of the US presidency.

everyone always talk like there is one "Cabal"

WRONG!!!

white hat / black hats are in a major battle right now, one wants WW III the other doesn't.

Military leaders that can't be trusted getting dragged off from the battle ground should give everyone a hint of who's in control...

Flash
7th November 2012, 18:10
looks like California is striking down the 3 strikes law and changing it to violent crimes only.

that's one I really wanted to see changed...

How is that going to play out with those who are already incarcerated? (nevermind, reading now (http://www.hrw.org/news/2012/11/07/uscalifornia-three-strikes-vote-humane-step))

As for the GM labellng, I gardened in my youth, and I can go back to it again. (family farm with a vegetable garden just outside the house). I haven't done it in a while, but it's like riding a bicycle...

I could do it too, this is not forgotten, the how to, but I never liked those bicycle rides very much. Weeding, eurk!

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The election results went way way too smooth and easy for such a close race . . . .

I smell a whole herd of really large nasty rodents.

I was waiting to see which puppet the controllers would put in to see what our near future would be.

I feel strongly that if Romney had been put in by the controllers that it would mean that Americans were not demoralized, beat down, brainwashed, terrified. bankrupt enough to go quietly into a the New World Order and Government.

With Obama being kept in position, to me, means Americans will accept fairly quietly what ever fate and process ‘they’ have in store for us.

Congratulations . . . We have made it to the ‘next level’ of the overall plan. Get ready for the really nasty stuff.

So what is YOUR PLAN? Are ya’ goin’ quietly with the flow of lemmings or have you seen your possible Fate and giving it the ‘one finger salute’ and riding out instead to meet you own personal Destiny?


Perfectly stated and 100% correct.

We were already at the next level anyhow, it is only the speed of implementation that may vary.

It is true that it went stangely smooth.

Rocky_Shorz
7th November 2012, 18:21
Iran says they are ready to meet in Hell if that what it takes to talk with America...

the Ayatollah is going to be climbing up for a while to get there... ;)

ignore the nay sayers and continue moving the world forward...

as Charlie Sheen says, we're winning...

Rocky_Shorz
7th November 2012, 18:26
White hat, black hats, purple hats, little generals, big generals, this cabal, that cabel, this war, the next war . . . none of that matters Rocky. NONE. They are all pawns in the bigger picture too . . . just like the main population of humanity

You have to go a lot deeper . . . a whole lot deeper than what you THINK you see on the surface.







The Obama victory really doesn't come as a surprise, as it had been well known in the alternative media that the cabal preferred to keep him on instead of going through the not to pleasant process of introducing a new guy to the reality of the US presidency.

everyone always talk like there is one "Cabal"

WRONG!!!

white hat / black hats are in a major battle right now, one wants WW III the other doesn't.

Military leaders that can't be trusted getting dragged off from the battle ground should give everyone a hint of who's in control...

I love being taught how to see by the blind...

just kidding, but I know who I'm battling and who is yanking the strings, $38 trillion wiped out in a Vault...

whistles innocently

blufire
7th November 2012, 18:36
White hat, black hats, purple hats, little generals, big generals, this cabal, that cabel, this war, the next war . . . none of that matters Rocky. NONE. They are all pawns in the bigger picture too . . . just like the main population of humanity

You have to go a lot deeper . . . a whole lot deeper than what you THINK you see on the surface.







The Obama victory really doesn't come as a surprise, as it had been well known in the alternative media that the cabal preferred to keep him on instead of going through the not to pleasant process of introducing a new guy to the reality of the US presidency.

everyone always talk like there is one "Cabal"

WRONG!!!

white hat / black hats are in a major battle right now, one wants WW III the other doesn't.

Military leaders that can't be trusted getting dragged off from the battle ground should give everyone a hint of who's in control...

I love being taught how to see by the blind...

just kidding, but I know who I'm battling and who is yanking the strings, $38 trillion wiped out in a Vault...

whistles innocently


Lol . . love ya Rocky

Money is meaningless in the grand scheme my friend . . . . absolutely totally meaningless and worthless.

GrnEggsNHam
7th November 2012, 18:37
In my lifetime every president has served 2 terms. There have only been 3 single term presidents since WWII. Why do you think that is? :wizard:

Rocky_Shorz
7th November 2012, 18:41
Urgent News Flash!!!

GOP just announced President Obama will not be winning a 3rd term in office... ;)

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White hat, black hats, purple hats, little generals, big generals, this cabal, that cabel, this war, the next war . . . none of that matters Rocky. NONE. They are all pawns in the bigger picture too . . . just like the main population of humanity

You have to go a lot deeper . . . a whole lot deeper than what you THINK you see on the surface.







The Obama victory really doesn't come as a surprise, as it had been well known in the alternative media that the cabal preferred to keep him on instead of going through the not to pleasant process of introducing a new guy to the reality of the US presidency.

everyone always talk like there is one "Cabal"

WRONG!!!

white hat / black hats are in a major battle right now, one wants WW III the other doesn't.

Military leaders that can't be trusted getting dragged off from the battle ground should give everyone a hint of who's in control...

I love being taught how to see by the blind...

just kidding, but I know who I'm battling and who is yanking the strings, $38 trillion wiped out in a Vault...

whistles innocently


Lol . . love ya Rocky

Money is meaningless in the grand scheme my friend . . . . absolutely totally meaningless and worthless.

may be meaningless, but ooh, it pisses em off... ;)

SilentFeathers
7th November 2012, 18:42
One way of looking at it:
Now that the election is over with the main stream media can now work on getting back to reporting on regular important issues once again; like whats going on with Lindsey Lohan and how many mice it takes to screw in a light bulb!!!!

Ron Mauer Sr
7th November 2012, 18:42
A picture is worth a thousand words.



http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=19125

19126

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TargeT
7th November 2012, 18:53
The President won the election but what he does not have is a mandate. Half of the United States fundamentally disagree With Barack Obama's far Left Ideology. I have never considered myself a Repub Or a Dem. I Always voted for the man who I thought would do the best job. Lets take a look at the facts.
The House still controlled by the Republicans.
The Senate is still controlled by the Democrats
That = GRIDLOCK That will be good for the country.Obama's getting pretty good at signing executive orders.He really doesn't need congress anymore!
Padme says it all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp069Y_P-9M&feature=player_detailpage

its my understanding that the house and senate are republican controlled now.

**Update**
guess I should watch more TV :rolleyes: Looks like the dem's still have the senate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_elections,_2012

araucaria
7th November 2012, 19:26
White hat, black hats, purple hats, little generals, big generals, this cabal, that cabel, this war, the next war . . . none of that matters Rocky. NONE. They are all pawns in the bigger picture too . . . just like the main population of humanity

You have to go a lot deeper . . . a whole lot deeper than what you THINK you see on the surface.







The Obama victory really doesn't come as a surprise, as it had been well known in the alternative media that the cabal preferred to keep him on instead of going through the not to pleasant process of introducing a new guy to the reality of the US presidency.

everyone always talk like there is one "Cabal"

WRONG!!!

white hat / black hats are in a major battle right now, one wants WW III the other doesn't.

Military leaders that can't be trusted getting dragged off from the battle ground should give everyone a hint of who's in control...

It ain't necessarily so :) We have a saying, When you're in a hole, stop digging. And we have another (implicit) saying, When you're in the rabbithole, keep drilling down!

Cherchez l'erreur.

There is basically only one question, and that is, which side are you on, the 'light' or the 'dark', if you will? And ergardless of the answer, only one response: Then just go for it. Too many people are just playing around.

blufire
7th November 2012, 20:49
White hat, black hats, purple hats, little generals, big generals, this cabal, that cabel, this war, the next war . . . none of that matters Rocky. NONE. They are all pawns in the bigger picture too . . . just like the main population of humanity

You have to go a lot deeper . . . a whole lot deeper than what you THINK you see on the surface.



It ain't necessarily so :) We have a saying, When you're in a hole, stop digging. And we have another (implicit) saying, When you're in the rabbithole, keep drilling down!

Cherchez l'erreur.

There is basically only one question, and that is, which side are you on, the 'light' or the 'dark', if you will? And ergardless of the answer, only one response: Then just go for it. Too many people are just playing around.


Well . . . .I would add ‘dark’ and ‘light’ to my meaningless list.

This past summer I went down a very different, very deep rabbit hole . . . a very interesting one and see things now from a very different point of view.

Basically I have taken as much emotional judgment as possible out of the Truth and well as personal and group ideology (such as PA) out of the equation as possible.

I say ‘as possible’ because I am still human and a female to boot, so it isn’t easy. But when I do manage I see glimmers of the bigger picture of what will be our future. Again there are many, many pawns or little ‘players’, including us and humanity. This thread is a good example . . . we are still ‘stuck’ in the game that the pawns/little players have created . . .

This created game has nothing to do with the ultimate Reality of our future and who I see as the foundational ‘controllers’ . . . .

Carmody
7th November 2012, 23:15
So.....that's a good 150 years later -- same results.

Wut up with them there people? 150 years and they don't learn anything?

Its uncanny how closely the patterns of national behavior on the part of a segment of the population from opinion polls to attitudinal surveys actually resembled the end of the Reconstruction period following the civil war when gains made by the previously enslaved were rolled back and the black codes and jim crow rose, alongside the prison-industrial complex to unequivocably halt the gains of that population.

The crowd in Romney's convention center seemed almost stunned senseless.

http://img.scoop.co.nz/stories/images/1211/30d391b5e3cd6d299e4d.jpeg

Paul
8th November 2012, 00:21
This created game has nothing to do with the ultimate Reality of our future and who I see as the foundational ‘controllers’ . . . .
I would be most interested to hear more, if you have not already elaborated on this here.

Paul
8th November 2012, 01:29
This created game has nothing to do with the ultimate Reality of our future and who I see as the foundational ‘controllers’ . . . .
I would be most interested to hear more, if you have not already elaborated on this here.

Looking at older posts, for those who are curious, I see that blufire spoke a few more words on this in: Genetically Modified Food Label Initiative Failing - Why? (Post #18) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51570-Genetically-Modified-Food-Label-Initiative-Failing-Why&p=578684&viewfull=1#post578684).

Rocky_Shorz
8th November 2012, 01:34
Well . . . .I would add ‘dark’ and ‘light’ to my meaningless list.

This past summer I went down a very different, very deep rabbit hole . . . a very interesting one and see things now from a very different point of view.

Basically I have taken as much emotional judgment as possible out of the Truth and well as personal and group ideology (such as PA) out of the equation as possible.

I say ‘as possible’ because I am still human and a female to boot, so it isn’t easy. But when I do manage I see glimmers of the bigger picture of what will be our future. Again there are many, many pawns or little ‘players’, including us and humanity. This thread is a good example . . . we are still ‘stuck’ in the game that the pawns/little players have created . . .

This created game has nothing to do with the ultimate Reality of our future and who I see as the foundational ‘controllers’ . . . .

not very nice to say you know who the Foundational Controller is and then not share, you holding out to write a book?

and yes I looked at Paul's link to your post and again it said nothing...

Koch Brothers, an empire started by Russia, is one side of the picture, Bush/Kissinger Cartel is another...

Then we have the Rothschild/Vatican division

and of course the Dragons Red White purple green orange and yellow... Secret Ninjas... ;)

We have the Secret Space Black Ops program funded by the Bush Cartel, which is stirring the pot of Human DNA and environmental modifications, and satellites for mind control and one look at Fox and this election says it works... :lol:

but I'd love to know which Rabbit hole you hopped down...

Paul
8th November 2012, 01:48
not very nice to say you know who the Foundational Controller is and then not share, you holding out to write a book?
tsk tsk, Rocky :)

Sometimes it works best, before venturing into new territory, to wait for an invitation first. That can be the difference between being treated as an unwelcome intruder, versus a welcome guest.

Rocky_Shorz
8th November 2012, 03:47
she already said she loved me, you mean I still have to be nice? ;)

if she's hopping down rabbit holes, I'm sure she knows I'm taunting for the fun of it...

ok I'll just sit here twiddling my thumbs...

until she pops back up from the hole...

I love painting Bulls eyes, just waiting to see if I missed one... ;)

modwiz
8th November 2012, 03:57
The Republicans shut out Ron Paul even though he was the real contender. In choosing Romney, they chose defeat. They cheated Ron Paul and the electorate, but not fate.

The real winners of this election will remain invisible and unknown.

Jules
8th November 2012, 04:05
Karl Rove is losing his mind!!!

anyone watching Fox?

Quote from Trump: "Lets fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice! The world is laughing at us. "


it's just his hair... we can't help it

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/225261_213510275345341_6425473_n.jpg


Poor guy. With all that dough, you would think he could find a good barber. If he had a good hair day, we probably wouldn't recognize him. Maybe he wouldn't get as much attention, never-mind he probably would.

blufire
8th November 2012, 04:10
@ rocky

:p

Still lov ya. . .even when you're being onery

TargeT
8th November 2012, 04:15
Karl Rove is losing his mind!!!

anyone watching Fox?

Quote from Trump: "Lets fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice! The world is laughing at us. "


it's just his hair... we can't help it

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/225261_213510275345341_6425473_n.jpg


Poor guy. With all that dough, you would think he could find a good barber. If he had a good hair day, we probably wouldn't recognize him. Maybe he wouldn't get as much attention, never-mind he probably would.

I don't think a barber can do a good comb over, bald is bald, comb your hair forward over it, sideways or just own it and shave it all... male baldness is looked down on for no good reason, its a sign of high testosterone, its a MANLY thing!

If I loose any more hair I'll own it

Rocky_Shorz
8th November 2012, 04:36
@ rocky

:p

Still lov ya. . .even when you're being onery

if you saw my grin when I was typing it you'd know I wasn't feeling ornery...

I can step through dreams to check out info/people to find out what they know, so I don't need to follow the written word, I'm more anxious to track down a rabbit I didn't know exists... ;)

I'll be patient...

just let me know when you're ready for company hopping down a hole...

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTJI-NrDyOvh3TYz8vZFWDMCYgABIdF0g1z9CVbEjIECQIhbTlG

Rocky_Shorz
8th November 2012, 06:27
Karl Rove is losing his mind!!!

anyone watching Fox?

Quote from Trump: "Lets fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice! The world is laughing at us. "


it's just his hair... we can't help it

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/225261_213510275345341_6425473_n.jpg



I have fun on twitter with the Don when he is going off...

today he was going off about the party in China over Obama winning was bigger than the one in Chicago...

my reply

that wasn't a party for Obama winning, it was celebrating that Romney lost so he will still be sending them jobs...

he went quiet and disappeared...

McCain was saying how entitlement must be cut for the new budget...

I asked him since he was wealthy if he will volunteer to give up all of his entitlements...

he went quiet and disappeared...

Rush was going off about GOP not getting the Latin votes...

I said well, it might be because Romney's Dad was born in Mexico and he came to America with his grandpa and five wives for Safety and opportunity, does that make them illegal aliens?

he went quiet and disappeared...

yep, great day in twitter land...

panopticon
8th November 2012, 07:25
In Oz there's been a bit made of some Republicans saying they'd shift here if Obama won...
Classy well informed comments like this:

http://www.abc.net.au/technology/images/general/blogs/nr/election/moveoz.jpg

Led to a need for some things to be made a bit clearer for them:

http://www.abc.net.au/technology/images/general/blogs/nr/election/letter.jpg

We surely are the lucky country... :yu::dance3::haha:

A few more laughs from Auntie on the US election are available here (http://www.abc.net.au/technology/articles/2012/11/08/3628527.htm?WT.svl=news4).
Kind Regards, :yo:
Panopticon

GrnEggsNHam
8th November 2012, 19:44
If I loose any more hair I'll own it

I never understood this either. I do have a beautiful head of hair(makes women jealous, not even kidding) but I shaved it all off once, even my bushy eyebrows. I rather liked it and drying off after a shower was just like swoop run your hand over your head. So if I ever lose hair on the top of my head it's all coming off and I think I will rather enjoy it again.

Rocky_Shorz
9th November 2012, 03:32
well looks like Bankers were surprised this morning by the direction of the market...

so back to the False Flag, terrorist attack we were warned of if Obama won, was arresting the two admirals enough?

OK so, now we learn that before the election, two Iranian Jets launched rockets at an American drone...

republicans are screaming that Obama didn't counter strike after the attack...

President Obama, smiled knowing in Iran, their best jets, and most advanced weapons, couldn't hit a target like a drone...

that's a bigger slap in the face to Iran than a counter attack that would have rallied the Iranians against America...

The Grand Ayatollah, finally agreed it is time to talk...

anyone wondering why President Obama is going to Turkey?

whistles innocently...


Neo-Con Revenge: Post-Election 'Attack Iran' Machine on Overdrive
Posted by Daniel McAdams on November 8, 2012 09:07 PM

US sends drone to spy on Iran, as it has done continuously for years, no doubt collecting targeting data to assist in US/Israeli attack on Iran. Iran reportedly fires at drone gathering targeting data to assist US in bombing Iran. US astonished at Iran's "aggression" toward US drone gathering intelligence to assist a US attack on Iran.

"'There is absolutely no precedence for this,' [Pentagon spokesman George] Little said. 'This is the first time that a (drone) has been fired upon to our knowledge by Iranian aircraft.'" :yell:

US shocked that the Iranians would have the gall to respond to US hostile gestures in the region. Oh but it was in international waters!

Imagine the US response to an Iranian drone operating in international Gulf of Mexico waters off of Florida.:jaw:

What does it all call to mind? Remember the pre-Iraq war times, when neo-cons ridiculed Ron Paul and others pointing that Iraq had not attacked us by screaming "OF COURSE they attacked us! They fired on our planes as we were bombing their country!" This is recycled propaganda -- but it works so well why not use it again?

The neo-cons and their partner Netanyahu went all out for Romney to guarantee a US led or at least assisted attack on Iran. The American electorate voted for the other guy. Now it is time for neo-con and Bibi's revenge, delivered by an obedient media. Will the administration swallow the bait, delivered breathlessly by FoxNews airheads link (http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/125771.html)? :israel::crazy::peace:


http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/261792/slide_261792_1730848_free.jpg?1352293880892

11:1 the Will of God is Peace...

at least Fox news is right about one thing...

The Perfect storm was an act of God...

Chris Cristie's heart changed the election, not the storm...

Noble Hops
9th November 2012, 04:12
https://hcxb.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/forward.jpg?w=584

Instead of just coasting off the cliff with Romney, America decided to floor it. :cool:

On a side note, Google has a very detailed election results page (http://www.google.com/elections/ed/us/results) that also lists the 3rd party stats in any given state.

Rocky_Shorz
9th November 2012, 04:31
I'm going to keep pounding on the GOP religious right until they step back into the center where they are meant to be...

sometimes it takes a leap of faith... ;)

https://hcxb.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/forward.jpg?w=584

Noble Hops
9th November 2012, 15:26
I'm going to keep pounding on the GOP religious right until they step back into the center where they are meant to be...

Not everyone participates in partisan hackery and dualistic thinking. Why does thinking Obama is worse than Romney equate to being "GOP religious right"? :confused:

Rocky_Shorz
9th November 2012, 15:47
I know you are way to new here to understand, me... ;)

Obama is against wars and at this point in America is needed more than ever as our leader...

of course building bombs and giving soldiers guns helps the unemployed, but so does building vertical farms and replacing our current vehicles with clean energy ones.

"Clean energy is no longer science fiction": means much more than most people realize.

patents held back since Nixon have been allowed to move forward.

GOP owns the House that's all the power they deserve in the government today and in 2 years they will be judged on how good they did.

Trickle down economies don't work, it's been tried for 30 years, it is time for the rich to give up entitlements, if you have a million or more in the stock market and banks, you don't need extra money to survive, why take it from people only making $600 a month? every penny spent at the bottom trickles up to bankers, the system is set up so they are always covered.

Stop giving banks free money, force them to pay 5-7% on savings so retirees have enough from interest to live on. We need a government willing to go head on with the problems holding us down. If it takes major disasters to keep putting people to work, so be it...

Bankers have had enough bailouts and will be judged and hauled away as more info comes to light.

I'm done with the leaches at the "Federal" reserve banks, I'm done with their collection agents, the IRS.

it's a small world, those allowing money to be hid offshore so they don't have to pay taxes like Romney, will soon have a rude awakening...

a national database for healthcare, so everyone's records are in one place will stop the extra charges for retesting each time a patient is sent to a new doctor.

the rich are the sickest people on earth, because they have the money to keep paying for service, doctors cure the poor so they don't keep coming back, do you think it is an accident?

it will be an interesting few years...

jagman
9th November 2012, 16:01
I know you are way to new here to understand, me... ;)

Obama is against wars and at this point in America is needed more than ever as our leader...

of course building bombs and giving soldiers guns helps the unemployed, but so does building vertical farms and replacing our current vehicles with clean energy ones.

"Clean energy is no longer science fiction": means much more than most people realize.

patents held back since Nixon have been allowed to move forward.

GOP owns the House that's all the power they deserve in the government today and in 2 years they will be judged on how good they did.

Trickle down economies don't work, it's been tried for 30 years, it is time for the rich to give up entitlements, if you have a million or more in the stock market and banks, you don't need extra money to survive, why take it from people only making $600 a month? every penny spent at the bottom trickles up to bankers, the system is set up so they are always covered.

Stop giving banks free money, force them to pay 5-7% on savings so retirees have enough from interest to live on. We need a government willing to go head on with the problems holding us down. If it takes major disasters to keep putting people to work, so be it...

Bankers have had enough bailouts and will be judged and hauled away as more info comes to light.

I'm done with the leaches at the "Federal" reserve banks, I'm done with their collection agents, the IRS.

it's a small world, those allowing money to be hid offshore so they don't have to pay taxes like Romney, will soon have a rude awakening...

a national database for healthcare, so everyone's records are in one place will stop the extra charges for retesting each time a patient is sent to a new doctor.

the rick are the sickest people on earth, because they have the money to keep paying for service, doctors cure the poor so they don't keep coming back, do you think it is an accident?

it will be an interesting few years...

Hello Rocky, I think you probably covered all of the lefts talking points in this post.
I can respect that you see things from the left. I often see things from the right.
But I also try to put politics aside to see the bigger picture.
lets face it together because No politician has ever solved the worlds problems
and they never will.

Noble Hops
9th November 2012, 16:22
I know you are way to new here to understand, me... ;)

Nice ego. Why does lack of posting equate to lack of reading? There's a second question you can bypass, if you want.

Anyhow, Obama's propaganda may be anti-war, but his Administration isn't; he's continuing the Bush/neo-Cohen globalist foreign policy just as Romney would have. Mittzi would just have been more hawkish at the mouth. Did you know your buddy bombed Yemen just seven hours after he was re-elected?

Again, this goes back to the silliness of political party cheerleaders (on both sides) who enjoy indulging themselves on the surface value hype coming out of their favorite bobblehead doll's trap. I agree with you on the Fed and IRS, though. FYI, didn't vote for Romney.

Rocky_Shorz
9th November 2012, 16:45
The Speaker of the House, Boehner just said the side of the #GOP of not raising taxes on the rich because it will affect small business owners...

the tax code protects them, that is how it works, for those creating jobs, they get additional rates, for those willing to do profit sharing with employees instead of investors, they get a write off. This isn't hard math to understand, the GOP has been bought and are having a tough time explaining to their Masters why they need to pay more...

I want to penalize Corporations that have moved 85% of American manufacturing out of the country, take the cost of Climate related disasters and divide it up between them as fines, we need to clean up the worlds environment.

there really are only 2 choices, move jobs back to America, or pay for those who can't find work...

the rich have gotten richer, the poor, poorer...

in fact everyone not in the upper 5% have gotten poorer, but the GOP feel "Entitled" for it to stay that way

take away the tax loophole allowing Corporations to bury profits in stock purchase back programs done at the end of every quarter.

Tax the printing presses pumping out money and derivatives.

TAX those at the top who haven't been paying any, tell me how to fix the loopholes to make it happen and we wouldn't need to change anything else.

excise and purchase taxes are enough to run this country

giving free energy to Seniors and allowing them to sell power to the companies with the grid instead of Social Security checks is a solution.

$16 Trillion of air means nothing to any of us, except bankers...

you love saying I am taking a left stance and you are dead wrong, I stand for the 99% standing in the middle getting jerked around by both sides of the 1%

I hear no solutions from the GOP, do they have no ideas?

just lies and conspiracies?

if you haven't guessed yet, I didn't vote for Romney either... ;)

Rocky_Shorz
9th November 2012, 16:54
I tweeted Obama in the morning of the election, part of what I said, was used in his speech, he is a leader that listens, so don't feel bad if I don't answer some questions, they make me smile, but I'm on a roll and don't want to slow down until finishing what We need to see to stop the Fiscal Cliff which is a win win for the 99%.

1% be damned...



Obama will be speaking in an hour in case you wonder why I'm typing fast this morning... ;)

Rocky_Shorz
9th November 2012, 17:13
Anyhow, Obama's propaganda may be anti-war, but his Administration isn't; he's continuing the Bush/neo-Cohen globalist foreign policy just as Romney would have. Mittzi would just have been more hawkish at the mouth. Did you know your buddy bombed Yemen just seven hours after he was re-elected?



there is a big difference between CIA drone strikes, and sending millions off to WW III

The Neocons wanted Obama to start a war with Iran from the attack on the drone, Israel is not running the country with Obama at the helm...

Ryan was clueless on foreign policy, he thinks Russia is America's biggest enemy and see's an army of Ayatollahs instead of the actual just 1

the VP needs to have a brain and knowledge about the world we live in.

Romney wanted to send 30,000 troops into Iraq because the government took oil fields back from Chevron who was stealing from their country.

Romney was going to put boots on the ground in Pakistan and Libya... and start a war with Iran...

no more wars for oil, instead, stop using it, that is the goal all of us at Avalon can agree to.

Noble Hops
9th November 2012, 17:16
I tweeted Obama in the morning of the election, part of what I said, was used in his speech, he is a leader that listens, so don't feel bad if I don't answer some questions, they make me smile, but I'm on a roll and don't want to slow down until finishing what We need to see to stop the Fiscal Cliff which is a win win for the 99%.

1% be damned...

Obama will be speaking in an hour in case you wonder why I'm typing fast this morning... ;)

LOL! Maybe you can tweet him his whole speech this time. But, let him know that before he can take on all the greedy banksters for the benefit of the 99%, he needs to get out of their pocket first. :p

Rocky_Shorz
9th November 2012, 18:44
Petreus, The head of the CIA being removed following the Iran attack and mis-info passed from Benghazi on the drone info being leaked to stir a war? this follows the removal of 2 Admirals?

Neocons are falling hard...

Honorable discharge, if he steps forward to help bring America together instead of splitting it apart...

He wants to know the actions being taken in Drone Strikes, before he hears of it in the news by angry Americans...

Twitter gives instant info around the world, straight to the news and onto the tube in minutes after the event happens.

jagman
9th November 2012, 18:52
Hillary is also leaving and so is Eric Holder. Im glad they got those neocons out too.lol

Rocky_Shorz
9th November 2012, 20:19
uh oh, is this the break-off civilization quietly checking out so no one is watching for them?


Republican leaders, thought to be so upset they don't want to speak with the public... quietly sneaking away...


called one and the answering machine played... "my bags are packed I'm ready to go...."


must be one in Colorado or Washington...

Rocky_Shorz
9th November 2012, 20:41
My bad,

guess we know where "fired up, ready to roll" comes from...


it was Bill Clinton's number... :heh:

Rocky_Shorz
10th November 2012, 18:22
for those who think their votes don't matter, look at this one in Arizona...

Martha McSally 125,223 50.0%
Ron Barber I 125,187 50.0%

Rahkyt
10th November 2012, 18:46
I think their point is that participating in the entire system is meaningless, Rocky, not that voting for those who choose the system is meaningless.

Until such a time as the world has a new way of doing things, we're supposed to sit it out on the sidelines, make a new front-line, and work very hard to create that new system outside of the bounds of the old system. Non-participation in its purest form. So, both of those votes were meaningless no matter how close they were. People wasting thought, action, gas and time by contributing to and bucking up the broken system.

That one was real close though. LOL

Rocky_Shorz
12th November 2012, 20:51
Tomorrow Congress returns, and the GOteaParty war begins, the GOP is ready to start dumping tea in the harbor...

the tea tax is way too high... ;)

Coffee anyone?

end of Fiscal cliff by thanksgiving?

nomadguy
15th November 2012, 03:52
I have no personal opinion about this however, this was posted today:
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/522177_3737243040353_276179037_n.jpg