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delfine
19th November 2012, 09:44
An eyeopener:
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meat suit
19th November 2012, 10:13
wow, thats a spin... have a look at the likes/dislikes and the comments...if you have the time that is....

buckminster fuller
19th November 2012, 13:22
double wow, that is one sided, half blind history.... Big time propaganda trying to hide the truth behind, which is blood and tears. There was no "Jew immigration" in Palestine, but Zionist colonialism, which is solely different...

GCS1103
19th November 2012, 16:00
Kudos to you, delfine, for having the courage to present another side. Excellent video.

Flash
19th November 2012, 16:30
Rewriting of history has begun (on both sides it seems), israel is sure to win the war, rewriting in their favor. Now palestinian arabs are even responsible for countless death of jews under Hitler.

Here a history as seen by quite knowledgeable americans who are tired of the misleading rewritten history. True or false, to you do judge

From another post in another thread:



When reading Israel and Palestine history, it is very important to look at the source of the writing. The reason: both sides, Israel and Palestine, have rewritten the history to favor their point of view and to brainwash the rest of us accordingly.

Most of what I found on the internet was written by organisations supporting zionism, which are biaised towards the Israeli rewriting, a few were from Arabs or Palestinians, biaised towards Palestinian rewriting.

I found one site that was created by an American reporter/historian and researcher who seemed much more objective, giving the real statistics on population, explaining that before being owned by the British, Palestine was a governed by the turkish empire (Ottoman) - just by this, one already know that there was a large amount of Muslim before the arrival of the European Jews. However, it is said that Palestine was a mix, slight dominance of Muslims arabs, Christains being in second and Jews in third before 1917.

Here is the text, analyse it the way you want, but having only Israeli or Palestinian writings to refer to insure us not to have the truth, they both seem to be rewriting history.








Historic Palestine

Historic Palestine
source: Palestine Remembered

Historically, the land of Palestine was populated by a people known as the Palestinians. Palestinians have always been religiously diverse, with the Muslim majority maintaining friendly relations with their Christian, Jewish, and Druze brethren.

At the turn of the 20th Century, a new Jewish nationalist ideology called Zionism was developing. Zionism called for the creation of a Jewish homeland in Palestine.

During this time, increasing numbers of Jewish Europeans immigrated to Palestine, causing the Jewish population to grow from a tiny minority to 35% of the population.


Population of Historic Palestine


Year

Non-Jewish Palestinians

Jewish Population

1877

426,908 non jewish
(97%)

13,942 jewish
(3%)

1912

665,840 non jewish
(95%)

36,267 jewish
(5%)


1925

780,568 non jewish
(85%)

137,484 jewish
(15%)

1946

1,339,763 non jewish
(69%)

602,586 jewish
(31%)

Source: McCarthy, Justin, The Population of Palestine, Columbia University Press: New York, 1990, pp. 10, 35.

View map of Palestine from 1944.

UN Partition of Palestine

Plan of Partition
source: UN


In 1947, the United Nations partitioned Historic Palestine, giving 55% to the Jewish population and 45% to the Palestinian population. The indigenous Palestinians rejected the division of the land on which they had lived and farmed for centuries.

At the time of partition, the Jewish population owned less than 6% of Palestine.

1948 Israel, West Bank, and Gaza Strip

Israel, West Bank, and Gaza
source: Palestine Center (my word: could be doubtful - the source - because both camp are rewriting history)

In 1948 Israel declared its "independence," but chose not to name its borders (Israel may be the only nation in the world with undeclared borders). Following its founding war of 1947-49 Israel came into existence on 78 percent of Palestine, a percentage it has steadily increased in subsequent years, a process that continues today.

Refugees and Depopulated Villages


Displaced Palestinian Refugees
source: Palestine Remembered


Depopulated Villages
source: Palestine Remembered (same be careful of rewriting even if the owner of the site are real erudites americans)

Between the time of partition and the declaration of Israel on 78% of historic Palestine in 1948, the newly formed Jewish state had depopulated (through massacres, expulsion orders, and fear tactics) over 400 villages and made refugees of at least 726,000 Palestinians (see U.N.).

As Moshe Dayan put it, “Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist, not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either.”

Learn more about refugees.

1967 and Occupation

Arab Land Occupied in 1967
source: PASSIA

In 1967, Israel occupied the remaining 22% of historic Palestine: the West Bank and Gaza (as well as large sections of Syria and Egypt). Since then Israel has transferred many of its citizens to Jewish “settlements,” (colonies, which are illegal according to the fourth Geneva Convention). Today 40% of the West Bank is off-limits to Palestinians, as they are not allowed to live in Israeli settlements, drive on Israeli-only roads connecting these settlements, or even live or travel through “security zones,” surrounding the settlements.

Learn more about life under occupation.

Annexation of Jerusalem





Annexation of East Jerusalem and Jerusalem-Area Settlements
source: UN


Following the 1967 war, Israel created what it calls “Greater Jerusalem.” It did this by expanding the borders of East Jerusalem to include surrounding areas of the West Bank where the Palestinian population was minimal. It annexed this new “Jerusalem,” and declared it to be it’s capitol.

Since 1967, Israel has established numerous illegal settlements in this “Greater Jerusalem,” thereby ensuring a Jewish majority in the city. While the municipal government encourages the construction of new Jewish homes in the city, Palestinian families (many of whom have lived in Jerusalem for centuries) are rarely able to acquire the permits necessary to build new homes and are only allowed to live in certain areas of the city due to systematic discrimination against non-Jewish citizens.

For more information on housing discrimination in Jerusalem, watch Jerusalem: An Occupation Set in Stone?

Israeli Settlements on Palestinian and Syrian Land

Israeli Settlements on the Palestinian West Bank and Gaza Strip and in the Syrian Golan Heights (as of 1996).
source: UN

Following the 1967 war, Israel began establishing numerous settlements, or illegal housing developments for Jewish Israelis only on stolen Palestinian land (colonies). There are now thousands of these settlements throughout the West Bank and Gaza, as well as numerous settlements in the Syrian Golan Heights.

Settlements are one of the major blockages to a peaceful and just resolution to Israel’s conflict with the Palestinians and other Arabs. The "roadmap" to peace calls on Israel to dismantle these settlements and to return the land to the rightful owners. Unfortunately, Israel continues to expand existing settlements and to build new ones.

Israeli settlers, who are known for their Jewish fundamentalism and desire to take the rest of Palestine (and perhaps even parts of other Arab lands) for Israel, usually carry large guns. They travel on specially built “bypass roads,” that now crisscross the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Palestinians are not allowed to use these roads.

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/maps.html

What made me post is the background of the three americans on the site. You can barely get better.

The other thing that made me post is the memories I have starting in the war of 67. i know for a fact that the Palestinian territory has not stopped shrinking. I have also met some people from the extended palestinian population living now in Jordan, but that were previously in the taken territories in now Israel. And we talked of the situation. I also have friend who lived in kibboutz and travel around Israel, so I had their point of view as well. They were living where shelling was landing on their head near the Palestinian state. On the other hand, it is obvious that Jews have made a paradise of a barren land, working the land extensively.

What makes me sick is the rewriting of history, where can we find the truth? I wish I would find old turkish texts describing it from the Ottoman empire time and be able to follow the thread.


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An eyeopener:
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to me, this little demonstration is definitly to incite more hatred and to justify Israel war on Palestine. True or not, the intent is so obvious that it makes the demonstration a trash.

Flash
19th November 2012, 17:06
The history of Israel from a Jew, who's father was a general intrumental to the war in 67, for the Jews.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCKWDarNdGw&feature=player_embedded#!

Billy
19th November 2012, 17:14
Making it up as they go along the road of destruction.

This war that war, This agreement that agreement.

Why does no one speak of PEACE.

Grrrrr

EDIT: 19318

Flash
19th November 2012, 17:17
Totally agree Billijy, why not peace, at any price? From all sides, at any price?

why not peace???? Because war pays the warlord controlling this planet.
Very easy and Israelis, Jews, Palestinians, Arabs, American people are getting into the brainwashing and the rhetoric that fills the pockets of the 1%. In fact, shame on us to embark in these beliefs, these positions taking, these pris à parti.

Lettherebelight
19th November 2012, 18:10
That video is only 'an eye opener' to more inflammatory bias. That's the last thing the situation needs. There actually is no good reason to be bombing anyone...at least not in this case.

What is needed is cool heads; rational, un-opinionated thinking. For true diplomacy to occur, no sides can be taken or promoted.

Billy
19th November 2012, 19:54
A light at the end of the tunnel, Israelis Soldiers refuse to serve in Gaza


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PathWalker
19th November 2012, 19:56
This is another biased view of history.
No matter what side you take, your are misled by propaganda.
This conflict is perpetually maintained by TPTB. TPTB are controlling both side.

But since the "Arab spring" the Arabs of the region revealed that Israel is not their main problem.
To the horrified PTP, this is unplanned distraction from the "Palestinian problem" need to remediated, the sooner the better.
And the Palestinian problem is not ment to be solved ever.

Do you really care about the humanitarian condition in Syria, what do you know about 2 million slaved Arabs in South-Sudan.
If you care so much about this conflict, ask yourself what made you so much emotionally invested in this, rather other issues worldwide.

realitycorrodes
19th November 2012, 20:12
Why do the Zionists get to have a God that is more important than the Muslim God - who decided that such an unprovable piece of political propaganda about the existence of a God and its view on politics is the correct one? The people who own 90% of the western media.

What kind of God advises a people to steal land from other people who already live on that land by killing them in an ethnic cleansing? No real mythical loving God would do such a thing! But a made up God for political reasons designed to cover up the stealing of land and the murder and or expulsion of the owners of that land would. It really is not rocket science?

There is no real confusion behind this issue if one properly researches it.

The following can all be searched on youtube and watched. Besides this topic has been already done to death on many other threads.
Occupaton 101
Palestine is still the issue
With God on our side
The Zionist Story

realitycorrodes
19th November 2012, 20:19
Jews are a group of people from different genetics - European, American, African etc. - who have decided to share a common belief system - they are not a "race of people"!!! They are different races sharing a common social/political/religious agenda.

The Palestinian Muslims and the Palestinian Jews who have lived in Palestine for centuries had their DNA tested and it was found to be the same DNA

http://www.stml.net/text/Populations.pdf

- so who are the chosen people?... the Palestinian Muslims or the Palestinian Jews?

Or the white Americans or white Europeans who have recently converted to being a Jew and gone over to settle in Palestine? The whole thing is ludicrous!

realitycorrodes
19th November 2012, 20:29
Why is it that Israel always seems to be the bad guy?

Because they are the bad guy. Quite simple really.

Educate yourself - those with intuition merely need to feel deep with in them - it really is not rocket science - but as gary-arsenault has cleverly pointed out we are being heavily brain washed. Israel has no right to exist - a politically made up (jealous barbaric, into "blood sacrifices" so called) god who claims some are more chosen than others (not very godlike IMHO), and that those chosen have the right to forcible remove beautiful humans from their land (not very Godlike IMHO). The British had no right to give palestine to the Zionists with their secret balfour declaration (1917) as britain had nothing to do with the land of palestine at the time the decision was made to "secretly organise a military take over of palestine in (1948) (after 37 years of propaganda and deception) under the disguise of finding "genetically unremarkable humans to everyone else"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/nov/25/medicalscience.genetics

who somehow think they are chosen/special (because they have decided to think of themselves related to the chosen people of the Jewish religion and who managed to market the "ordinary Jew's" (non-zionist Jew's?) suffering during world war 2 better than they advertised the killing/raping of Tens of Millions of Russians in 1917 by the The Zionist Red Army)

The Zionist Red Army by David Duke
http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?ne...%3D_NBxv6-vUnE

http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1691689

Holocaust Debate (1 of 12): Mark Weber vs Michael Shermer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfKRTkFPLjA

a piece of land (the population upon which at the time was 92% Arab) where they could be racist against everyone except Zionist and who are now embarking on a process of ethnic cleansing of arabs from palestine.

The UN is an undemocratic corrupt organisation who has no right to make decisions about other peoples land - especially arab people's land i.e. palestinian land upon which arabs have lived on for centuries.

John Pilger - Palestine Is Still The Issue 1/4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRP4ooxg9aU

occupation 101

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rSd9HuPZYU


The only people who think Israel is good... are people who think they are chosen (special, elitest) - better than the rest of us - people who think they have a right to interfere with other peoples freedoms.

There are christian zionists who wish to see "Zionists pretending to be Jews" forcible remove arabs from palestine in order to fulfull barbaric prophecies in the "political book of propaganda" called the Bible - the reason for christian zionists wanting to see "Zionist's pretending to be of the Jews" back in Palestine is because that is a prophecy (a politically orientated piece of hypnotic mind control used for propaganda) which if fulfilled makes the prophecy of Armageddon more likely...these christian zionists are wishing an armageddon on the rest of us. Why cause they have been brain washed to think they are chosen and when armageddon happens...the second coming of Jesus is going to save these "chosen" people. They are prepared to deliberately create a "nuclear armageddon" to fulfil a prophecy that makes them feel special.

Check out
The Invention of the Jewish people by Shlomo Sands

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5831714/[http://www.concen.cc]_The_Invention_..._by_Shlomo_San

Norman Finkelstein - An Issue Of Justice; Origins Of The Israel-

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6597...Of_The_Israel-

realitycorrodes
19th November 2012, 20:40
Jews, Palestinians have close genetic ties, say researchers
posted by Rob Kerby, Senior Editor

As many as 90 percent of Palestinians in some areas have close genetic ties to Jews, according to researchers.

Ariella Oppenheim Ph.D., a researcher at Hebrew University and the Hadassah Medical School labs, has published the result of DNA studies which show that both the Palestinians and Jews are descended from the Kurds of Iraq and Turkey.

That should astonish no one since both the Bible and the Koran say the Jews and Arabs are descended from a common ancestor, an ancient Caldean who the Koran calls Ibrahim. The Bible says he was named Abraham.

Perhaps more surprising, Oppenheim found the Ashkenazi Jews from Europe are genetically closer to the Palestinians than Middle East Jews.

Oppenheim also isolated and traced the chromosome for the “priestly” Cohen line.

“We find that Arabs also carry this chromosome,” she noted in a documentary film, which claims that some Palestinians are also Cohens, genetically.

The Palestinian city of Yatta, located south of Hebron in the West Bank, has a population of 50,000 to 60,000 people. The Israeli documentary states that 90 percent of the town has Jewish roots.

Furthermore, many of them practice ancient customs that are very Jewish.

“In some of the dry and dusty Palestinian and Bedouin villages, they still circumcise their boys after the seventh day,” writes Mark Ellis on the website “Godreports.” Hidden away in some Palestinian homes are Jewish mezuzahs and tefillin. Some older residents can recall lighting candles on the Sabbath.

“Many of the Palestinians know it, but it’s not politically correct to acknowledge this publicly among Muslims,” says Steve Hagerman, founder of Turkish World Outreach. “There are two houses of Israel in the Holy Land: one aligned with the West and primarily secular or Jewish and the other aligned with the East and primarily Islam.”

Anyone who is familiar with Hebrew history should not be surprised by the DNA results. After all, the Bible records that after King Solomon’s death, the Kingdom of Israel split into northern and southern kingdoms. When the northern kingdom of Israel was conquered and taken into captivity by the Assyrians in 745-702 B.C., most were sent to the east — never to return, Hagerman notes.

Centuries later after some from the southern kingdom returned from captivity in Babylon, they were dispersed throughout the world again through the Roman conquest — with many Jews carried away as slaves or choosing to flee the Holy Land.

“Many of the people in southern and central Italy are of Jewish origin, because so many slaves were carried away by the Romans to big estates in southern Italy,” reports Haterman.

Documentary filmmaker Nissim Mossek quotes Rabbi Dov Stein who claims, “It becomes clear that a significant part of the Arabs in the land of Israel are actually descendants of Jews who were forced to convert to Islam over the centuries. There are studies which indicate that 85% of this group is of Jewish origin.

Oppenheim’s genetic studies seem to confirm that connection.

Mossek filmed a Palestinian home where the Jewish mezuzah was hidden under a shelf, and the tefillin are hidden among the socks in a dresser. A mezuzah is a parchment of scripture placed on the doorpost by religious Jews. Tefillin, also known as phylacteries, are a set of small boxes containing scrolls of parchment inscribed with scripture, which are worn by observant Jews during morning prayers.

A Palestinian woman interviewed on the program says, “That is how I pray and everyone keeps the secret.”

“Will your little boy find out he is Jewish? an interviewer asks.

“He will find out eventually,” she says.


Read more: http://features.beliefnet.com/news/2011/09/jews-palestinians-have-close-genetic-ties-say-researchers.php#ixzz2Cheywc1d

realitycorrodes
19th November 2012, 20:55
Journal axes gene research on Jews and Palestinians
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/nov/25/medicalscience.genetics

Journal axes gene research on Jews and Palestinians reddit this Robin McKie, science editor The Observer, Sunday 25 November 2001 11.24 GMT larger | smaller Article history
A keynote research paper showing that Middle Eastern Jews and Palestinians are genetically almost identical has been pulled from a leading journal.
Academics who have already received copies of Human Immunology have been urged to rip out the offending pages and throw them away.

Such a drastic act of self-censorship is unprecedented in research publishing and has created widespread disquiet, generating fears that it may involve the suppression of scientific work that questions Biblical dogma.

'I have authored several hundred scientific papers, some for Nature and Science, and this has never happened to me before,' said the article's lead author, Spanish geneticist Professor Antonio Arnaiz-Villena, of Complutense University in Madrid. 'I am stunned.'

British geneticist Sir Walter Bodmer added: 'If the journal didn't like the paper, they shouldn't have published it in the first place. Why wait until it has appeared before acting like this?'

The journal's editor, Nicole Sucio-Foca, of Columbia University, New York, claims the article provoked such a welter of complaints over its extreme political writing that she was forced to repudiate it. The article has been removed from Human Immunology's website, while letters have been written to libraries and universities throughout the world asking them to ignore or 'preferably to physically remove the relevant pages'. Arnaiz-Villena has been sacked from the journal's editorial board.

Dolly Tyan, president of the American Society of Histocompatibility and Immunogenetics, which runs the journal, told subscribers that the society is 'offended and embarrassed'.

The paper, 'The Origin of Palestinians and their Genetic Relatedness with other Mediterranean Populations', involved studying genetic variations in immune system genes among people in the Middle East.

In common with earlier studies, the team found no data to support the idea that Jewish people were genetically distinct from other people in the region. In doing so, the team's research challenges claims that Jews are a special, chosen people and that Judaism can only be inherited.

Jews and Palestinians in the Middle East share a very similar gene pool and must be considered closely related and not genetically separate, the authors state. Rivalry between the two races is therefore based 'in cultural and religious, but not in genetic differences', they conclude.

But the journal, having accepted the paper earlier this year, now claims the article was politically biased and was written using 'inappropriate' remarks about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Its editor told the journal Nature last week that she was threatened by mass resignations from members if she did not retract the article.

Arnaiz-Villena says he has not seen a single one of the accusations made against him, despite being promised the opportunity to look at the letters sent to the journal.

He accepts he used terms in the article that laid him open to criticism. There is one reference to Jewish 'colonists' living in the Gaza strip, and another that refers to Palestinian people living in 'concentration' camps.

'Perhaps I should have used the words settlers instead of colonists, but really, what is the difference?' he said.

'And clearly, I should have said refugee, not concentration, camps, but given that I was referring to settlements outside of Israel - in Syria and Lebanon - that scarcely makes me anti-Jewish. References to the history of the region, the ones that are supposed to be politically offensive, were taken from the Encyclopaedia Britannica, and other text books.'

In the wake of the journal's actions, and claims of mass protests about the article, several scientists have now written to the society to support Arnaiz-Villena and to protest about their heavy-handedness.

One of them said: 'If Arnaiz-Villena had found evidence that Jewish people were genetically very special, instead of ordinary, you can be sure no one would have objected to the phrases he used in his article. This is a very sad business.'

realitycorrodes
19th November 2012, 22:09
Are the Palestinians an invented people?

By Mark Ellis

Israeli and Palestinian boys share laughter

Presidential candidate Newt Gingrich stepped into a hornet’s nest when he referred to the Palestinians as an invented people in a recent debate.

“Remember, there was no Palestine as a state. It was part of the Ottoman Empire,” Gingrich said. “We have invented the Palestinian people, who are in fact Arabs and are historically part of the Arab people,” he said in the debate among Republican contenders for the presidency.

His comments were roundly denounced from the White House to the Middle East, but others found a measure of truth from a historical and political perspective, even if they were ill-timed and “unhelpful” as Secretary of State Clinton observed.

Senator Joseph Lieberman struck a moderate tone in response. “Over the years I’ve done a lot of reading in Palestinian history, and there are a lot of different theories about the history of Palestinian people hood and nationhood. But to me, the important fact is that the Palestinians are a people today, and any resolution of the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians has to be between two people, two nations,” Lieberman said.

Liberal commentator Michael Kinsley observes that in 1947, the word “Palestinian” referred to Jews and Arabs living in Palestine. “Arabs living in the territory of Palestine were called Arabs – or very occasionally Palestinian Arabs,” Kinsley notes, in keeping with the philosophy known as pan-Arabism.

Kinsley admits that Gingrich was right – up to a point. “Until the 1970s, Palestinian nationalism was not much of a factor. The PLO was formed in 1964, but the idea of ‘liberating’ Palestine from Israeli control didn’t really take hold until after the 1967 war,” he notes.

But Kinsley also claims that the Israelis are an invented people – that Jewish nationalism only goes back to 1896. In doing so, he conveniently leaves out the historical record contained in the Bible.

Interestingly, modern genetics has established closer links between the Jews and Palestinians than many would suspect. “Many of the Palestinians know it, but it’s not politically correct to acknowledge this publicly among Muslims,” saysSteve Hagerman, founder of Turkish World Outreach.

When the northern kingdom of Israel was deported by the Assyrians in 745-702 B.C., most were sent to the East, Hagerman notes. After the Roman conquest, many Jews were carried away as slaves or fled to the West. “Many of the people in southern and central Italy are of Jewish origin, because so many slaves were carried away by the Romans to big estates in southern Italy.”

Hagerman cites a documentary that appeared on Israeli television in 2009 that established many common links. The documentary, produced by Nissim Mossek, quotes Rabbi Dov Stein, secretary of the New Sanhedrin, “It becomes clear that a significant part of the Arabs in the land of Israel are actually descendants of Jews who were forced to convert to Islam over the centuries,” he says. “There are studies which indicate that 85% of this group is of Jewish origin.”

Genetic studies have confirmed the connection. Ariella Oppenheim PhD, a researcher at Hebrew University and the Hadassah Medical School labs, did several important studies in 2000 and 2001. She was able to demonstrate common origins and a number of surprising relationships. Oppenheim established that both the Palestinians and the Jews descended from the Kurds of Babylon, homeland of the patriarch Abraham.

Perhaps more surprising, she found the Ashkenazi Jews from Europe are genetically closer to the Palestinians than Middle East Jews.

Oppenheim also isolated and traced the chromosome for the “priestly” Cohen line. “We find that Arabs also carry this chromosome,” she noted on the documentary, which means that some Palestinians are also Cohens, genetically.

The Palestinian city of Yatta, located south of Hebron in the West Bank, has a population of 50,000 to 60,000 people. The Israeli documentary states that 90 % of the town has Jewish roots.

The film crew visited one Palestinian home where the Jewish mezuzah was hidden under a shelf, and the tefillin are hidden among the socks in a dresser. The mezuzah was a parchment of Scripture placed on the doorpost by religious Jews. Tefillin, also known as phylacteries, are a set of small boxes containing scrolls of parchment inscribed with Scripture, which are worn by observant Jews during morning prayers.

A Palestinian woman interviewed on the program says, “That is how I pray and everyone keeps the secret.”

“Will your little boy find out he is Jewish? an interviewer asks.

“He will find out eventually,” she says.

As Israelis and Palestinians continue their contentious battle over the issue of statehood, it may be a radical notion to inform each party that the one they consider their enemy is actually their brother – far removed by the tides of history.

http://blog.godreports.com/2011/12/are-the-palestinians-an-invented-people/

realitycorrodes
19th November 2012, 22:13
Palestinians Of A Jewish Origin Part One
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOolCRSf74I
Palestinians Of A Jewish Origin Part Two
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZypN3TQwtSc&feature=relmfu