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Black Panther
1st December 2012, 11:38
I just saw this video and I discovered it is already posted in another thread:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?49088-Overpopulation-is-a-Myth-Or-not-a-myth-Thats-the-confusing-Question---&p=544950&highlight=robert+gallo#post544950

I already knew about AIDS being manmade, but this video
shows the man Robert Gallo, who created AIDS.

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DNA
1st December 2012, 11:55
I've heard the same thing about Lyme Disease being man made.

How The Government Created Lyme Disease Plum Island (http://paulahenry1.hubpages.com/hub/Lyme-Disease-symptoms-treatment)

apollo41
1st December 2012, 12:47
Aids was created by scientists working for the US navy decades ago, they also created a cure,
this is quite old information..
it was designed mainly to eradicate third world communities..
search and ye shall find..

ghostrider
1st December 2012, 14:06
Ptaah spoke of the secret government creating aids back in the 70's.

Butangeld
1st December 2012, 14:25
Thanks Black Panther for this thread. This is one of the stories that woke me up to what is going on in our world.

I highly recommend the book AIDs Inc by Jon Rappoport. He is an investigative reporter from San Diego. Back in 1987 he discovered the staggering truth about this man-made disease. The most startling thing to get your head round is the fact that it is a fictional disease, which can only kill you if you believe in it. Sounds ridiculous?

Bullet point explanation:
1. There does not exist an exclusive test for HIV. Each test can give a positive result for other far more ordinary conditions; like the common cold, or recent pregnancy will both give a positive on some tests. Now if you can't test for it then you can't accurately state it is the cause of anything.

2. Why do people die? The 'treatments' for HIV will produce the devastating effects leading to death. Just ask the folk over at aliveandwell.org (http://aliveandwell.org) if they think abstaining from 'treatment' may have saved their lives.

3. How can so many scientists in this field be wrong? They share a belief that Robert Gallo penned the original peer reviewed research that proves the theorem. Gallo is a fraud, there is no peer reviewed research, and each scientist that has realised this has lost their funding. Kary Mullis, Nobel prize winner for chemistry, and inventor of the PCR test used in this industry, spent several years searching for the peer reviewed original research to prove HIV= AIDS, he is too prominent to destroy but since he realised the fraud he too is now shunned at dinner parties.

I don't want this to be a rant, but understanding this story opens the doors to knowing how easy it is to create a false paradigm and pull the wool over our eyes. Ever since I was young and I first heard about this super-disease I felt there was something wrong with the story. I remember reading in the early 90s about a Portuguese priest who went to Africa, set up an orphanage for children with 2/3 weeks left to live suffering from AIDS. He gave them 3 square meals a day and toys to play with to make their last days happy ones. He was unable to take in more orphans because the ones he had were no longer dying. He had cured them with food and love. The newspaper proclaimed a miracle, but I smelt some fish.

Similar BS back-stories can be found for later disease creations like SARS and Bird-flu, bison-flu will be next...in the case of SARS, if you drink water contaminated with poo you will get ill, and if you employ a microbiologist to examine the mess telling him that 'we're looking for a virus' then he will find one never seen before, but always in small quantities - that's the key. One lone virus does make a cause, you need what's called a high titter count to assume the virus as the cause. Was it the singular, never before seen virus that caused your illness, or was it the poo?

Rant over. Love and light on :)

Black Panther
1st December 2012, 18:37
Aids was created by scientists working for the US navy decades ago, they also created a cure,
this is quite old information..
it was designed mainly to eradicate third world communities..
search and ye shall find..

That's why I placed it under 'General Discussion' and not under 'News'.
It's maybe old news, but still very important today imo. It's great
others can share more information too, so we can understand
the bigger picture. There is a lot of information on the net,
but starting a thread like this so others can contribute is
one of the reasons I'm a member of Avalon.

For example:


2. Why do people die? The 'treatments' for HIV will produce the devastating effects leading to death. Just ask the folk over at aliveandwell.org (http://aliveandwell.org) if they think abstaining from 'treatment' may have saved their lives.

Sidney
1st December 2012, 18:44
http://the5thdimension.wordpress.com/2009/01/03/bizarre-creatures-from-plum-island-requested-by-brian-klein/


Please read the book LAB 257- for a good education on this topic. Lyme, Aids,west nile, and many many more diseases created in the name of BIO WEAPONRY, that have been unleashed on the civilians of the planet.

jjjones
2nd December 2012, 02:29
black panther, the vid and information is VERY,VERY IMPORTANT. i can assure you and our pa friends that the majority of people when confronted with this issue are in denial that AIDS/SIDA are man made and a eugenics bio-warfare product, just as many,many of our other diseases. there are also "cures" for these diseases, but are kept highly confidential for the main reasons of control and $. holistic cures actually are successful, but "mum" is the word on this.
people better wake up and start asking questions and learning the truth about what is going on in their world. thank you so much for bringing forth this most important topic. remember that there are two ways of spreading light, to be the candle or the mirror that reflects it. take care and be well. namaste, love and peace universally :)

mosquito
2nd December 2012, 02:54
Thanks Black Panther for this thread.....

I remember reading in the early 90s about a Portuguese priest who went to Africa, set up an orphanage for children with 2/3 weeks left to live suffering from AIDS....



First time I've seen a post by you Butangeld, what an excellent one it is too !!

There was also the case of a homoeopathic physician who opened a clinic in East Africa (unfortunately I can't remember the precise details) who had a similar experience, none of the people he took in and treated died, and he ran out of space ! Needless to say, this didn't find its' way into the news.

gooty64
2nd December 2012, 03:44
This is almost un-speakable for me. I was there. I lived it.
Many of the young men who died were "unique" spirits and same sex love just got so poisoned and attacked and perverted by culture.
I know some of you are thinking it was already perverted but it's not that way, you don't know.
I lost close friends and teammates from my baseball team in the 80's-early 90's.
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Hervé
2nd December 2012, 05:07
Having a look beyond the man-made thingy... and getting a glimpse of the ugly "Big Picture," that is, why and what AIDS was designed for in the first place:



In 1979 McNamara repeated his message to the leading bankers from around the world, and Thomas Enders, a high-ranking State Department official, made the following statement:

"There is a single theme behind all of our work. We must reduce population growth. Either they do it our way, through nice, clean methods, or they will get the kind of a mess that we have in El Salvador, or Iran, or Beirut. Once population growth is out of control, it requires authoritarian government, even fascism, to reduce it. Civil war can help things, but it would have to be greatly expanded. To reduce population quickly, you have to pull all males into the fighting and kill significant numbers of fertile, child-bearing-age females."

The solution to the problem of a world in which the elite would not want to live is mass genocide. The Club of Rome (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_clubrome.htm) was ordered to produce a blueprint that would wipe out 500 million of excess population. The plan was called Global 2000 (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_depopu.htm#Global_2000_Program), and it was activated by spreading the AIDS virus throughout Africa and Brazil. Global 2000 was officially accepted as U.S. policy by President James Carter.

The conference members agreed that the, "low-class element of society must be brought under total control, trained and assigned to duties at an early age, which can be accomplished by the quality of education, which must be the poorest of the poor. The lower-classes must be trained to accept their position, long before they have an opportunity to query it."

"Technically, children must be 'orphaned' in day care centers under government control. With such an initial handicap, the lower-classes will have little hope of upward mobility away from their assigned positions in life. The form of slavery we have in mind is essential for good social order, peace and tranquility.


Excerpt from Dr. John Coleman's "Diplomacy By Deception (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/diplomacy_deception/diplomacy_deception.htm) -- 6) Tavistock and 'Operation Research'"



As I warned about two years ago, there is an underlying agenda of the New World Order to bring about a depopulation of the planet as part of their intent to control and subjugate the planet for their own purposes.
Starting with Zero Population Growth of Paul Ehrlich in the 70's and the "Pharisees" of the Club of Rome, Limits to Growth report, then the Peak Oil Myth based on the ridiculous assumption that petroleum is a fossil fuel, Global Cooling which was switched to Global Warming without anyone paying attention, we now have an outright movement to end the human race to save the planet.
This all in addition to "depleted" uranium, corporate corruption and pollution of the planet, use of the WHO to sterilize young women of color around the world, the Genetic Engineering that is killing the bees and butterflies, and the general mucking up caused by Big Pharma and Big Medicine, the Codex Alimentarius (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_depopu36.htm), and AIDS/HIV epidemic, they now have orchestrated the scenes of Soylent Green which were filmed back in the 70's to provide a visual story line on which to build the propaganda for depopulation.




This group was organized in 1968 by the Morgenthau Group for the purpose of accelerating the plans to have the New World Order (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_nwo.htm) in place by the year 2000.


The Club of Rome developed a plan to divide the world into ten regions or kingdoms (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_clubrome10.htm).

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_sociopol/nasco01_04.gif


In 1976, the United States Association of the Club of Rome (USACOR) was formed for the purpose of shutting down the U.S. economy gradually.



Excerpt from Dr. John Coleman's "The Club of Rome (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_clubrome09.htm) -- Committee of 300"


To get and idea of the planning that goes into orphanning and the scooping of orphans for profit, have a good look at this post:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51271-Possible-reason-why-soldiers-are-overseas.&p=573698&viewfull=1#post573698


For the collected work of Dr. John coleman, see: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_committee300.htm


As for this part:


Global Cooling which was switched to Global Warming without anyone paying attention, we now have an outright movement to end the human race to save the planet.

See this post:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?50036-The-Arctic-is-melting-the-Antarctic-is-freezing.-What-does-this-mean&p=590496&viewfull=1#post590496

Fructedor
2nd December 2012, 11:16
Here's a link re HIV / AiIDS


http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/

Butangeld
3rd December 2012, 23:15
This is almost un-speakable for me. I was there. I lived it.[/youtube]

I'm glad you do speak though. You have experienced this and lost people you knew. Having lived it and lost because of it, to then speak the truth regarding the nefarious nature of it all has more weight and credibility than someone who has not experienced any of it at close hand.

Maunagarjana
4th December 2012, 04:24
I do think HIV was manmade, but by Gallo? I'm not sure. He could have been used by others for purposes of which he was unaware (as well as other scientists), though he may realize it in retrospect. Just my speculation. One day I hope the truth and all the gory details come out, not only about HIV, but other engineered viruses.

I do tend to believe HIV does cause AIDS (though some strains of the virus I think are more vigorous than others, and it could be that the more vigorous ones are already out of circulation because their carriers died.) Just my opinion.

Yeah, Kary Mullis thinks HIV doesn't cause AIDS and he won the Nobel Prize in chemistry and all, but in his book "Dancing Naked In The Mind Field" (which I read) he said himself that his discovery of PCR wouldn't have happened had he known more about chemistry. In other words, he made some assumptions that were not the conventional wisdom in the chemistry field at the time. He just happened to make some of the right assumptions, enough for it to work. Basically, he lucked out, by his own admission. I point this out just to cast a little doubt on his assumed status as a preeminent mind in the field just on the basis of his discovery of PCR.