Now that the distractions of predicted catastrophes have come and gone, what's left?

[Hervé]

2012 and its boatload of dire predictions which all went down the drain, what's the REALITY earth is left with?


Here is a quote which sums up why, instead of relaxing, one should strengthen one's alertness:



In an article on Sott.net earlier this year entitled How is the World Going to End in 2012? (http://www.sott.net/article/241810-How-is-the-World-Going-to-End-in-2012#), Laura Knight-Jadczyk wrote:

The world is ending in 2012. That is, the final implementation of the fascist, totalitarian New World Order will be accomplished this year and you will be in that "New World" that the global elite have designed for you, and planned to implement for a very long time now. Oh, indeed, similar New World Orders have been staged in the past on smaller scales, but this time it's global because they are all in on it together! Former 'New World Orders' didn't really fail, even if they ostensibly fell; they've just been passing the torch around for millennia, spreading the disease, growing the sickness in society, until finally, now, with global communication and incredible weapons of destruction in their hands, they are ready to finalize the Faustian bargain that you, the people, signed with your blood.

That's what 2012 is all about. It's not about some grand and glorious transformation or ascension to another existence! It's not about being 'raptured' to heaven at the right hand of Jesus because you helped to 'initiate the Eschaton'! It's not about 'Starseeds' being taken aboard spacecraft and getting airlifted to some other planet of the '5th dimension', but it is also not about 'life continuing on as normal'. Pure and simple, prophecy is coming true, it's just that it's going to be much more mundane and much less sensational than you might have imagined. It is the end of your world as normal, free human beings, and your reduction to pure grinding slave-hood, your children turned over to be sex toys or cannon fodder for psychopaths, and there's nothing you can do about it now.

[araucaria]

This is of course the ultimate in dire predictions coming from the same source as all the others.

Things are indeed pretty dire, I have no problem with that, but it is not over even when the fat lady starts singing - no disrespect to Laura Knight Jadcyk, but to state that it was game over after the JFK assassination is, for one thing, to undermine the importance of her own subsequent career.

So yes, let's strengthen our alertness by all means, and our resolve.
The end-of-the-world scenario was concocted by Armageddonists working to a script. Their attempts at starting World War III certainly date back to JFK (the Cuba crisis, but also Bob Dean's UFO crisis), and the bomb bomb Iran scenario has been on hold for over five years. They have clearly fluffed their lines and are in improvisation mode, which for them is unknown territory. This is where we come into our own.

[sigma6]

kn2TChegK9U


Might as well go for a soda
Nobody hurts and nobody cries
Might as well go for a soda
Nobody drowns and nobody dies

So we're in one of our blue moods
You wanna have it your way and I want it mine
All this debating going 'round in our blue mood
Makes me thirst for love

Might as well go for a soda
Nobody hurts and nobody cries
Might as well go for a soda
Nobody drowns and nobody dies

Life seems to be a bomb inside your head
Well, the bomb in my head is love
All this debating going 'round in our blue mood
Makes me thirsty for love

Might as well go for a soda
Nobody hurts and nobody cries
Might as well go for a soda
Nobody drowns and nobody dies

Might as well go for a soda
It's better than slander, it's better than lies
Might as well go for a soda
Nobody hurts and nobody cries

Might as well go for a soda...

[Hervé]

This is of course the ultimate in dire predictions coming from the same source as all the others.

Things are indeed pretty dire, I have no problem with that, but it is not over even when the fat lady starts singing - no disrespect to Laura Knight Jadcyk, but to state that it was game over after the JFK assassination is, for one thing, to undermine the importance of her own subsequent career.

So yes, let's strengthen our alertness by all means, and our resolve.
The end-of-the-world scenario was concocted by Armageddonists working to a script. Their attempts at starting World War III certainly date back to JFK (the Cuba crisis, but also Bob Dean's UFO crisis), and the bomb bomb Iran scenario has been on hold for over five years. They have clearly fluffed their lines and are in improvisation mode, which for them is unknown territory. This is where we come into our own.

Indeed!

As for the script, it's been edited and honed since, at least, 1894:

Albert Pike's letter to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871:


"The First World War must be brought about in order to (http://www.libertyforlife.com/nwo/albert_pike.htm#ww1)permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the "agentur" (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions."


"The Second World War must be fomented by (http://www.libertyforlife.com/nwo/albert_pike.htm#ww2)taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm."


"The Third World War must be fomented by (http://www.libertyforlife.com/nwo/albert_pike.htm#ww3) taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."
As for the contenders of the above letter being a hoax:

William Guy Carr (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Guy_Carr)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Confusion has arisen as to the precise source of Carr's Three World Wars scenario. As is the case with many of his claims, Carr does not provide a source for that scenario, but mentions a letter written by Pike and addressed to Italian revolutionary leader Giuseppe Mazzini (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuseppe_Mazzini), which outlines a plan for unleashing "Nihilists and Atheists", after World War Three has ended. The confusion was created when Michael Haupt launched his website threeworldwars.com, which mistakenly assumed that Carr also attributed the World War Three scenario to the Pike letter. In fact, the authenticity of this letter is disputed.[19] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Guy_Carr#cite_note-19) Carr states that he learned about the letter from the anti-Mason (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Masonry), Cardinal Caro y Rodriguez (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caro_y_Rodriguez) of Santiago (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santiago,_Chile), Chile (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chile), author of The Mystery of Freemasonry Unveiled (Hawthorne, CA, Christian Book Club of America, 1971). However, Carr's later book, Satan, Prince of This World (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Satan,_Prince_of_This_World&action=edit&redlink=1) (written in 1959), includes the following footnote: "The Keeper of manuscripts recently informed the author that this letter is NOT catalogued in the British Museum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Museum) Library. It seems strange that a man of Cardinal Rodriguez's knowledge should have said that it WAS in 1925."[20] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Guy_Carr#cite_note-20) More recently, the British Museum confirmed in writing to researcher Michael Haupt (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Michael_Haupt&action=edit&redlink=1)[21] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Guy_Carr#cite_note-21) that such a document has never been in their possession. Pierre-André Taguieff states that Carr gave an ultimate and synthetic account[clarification needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Please_clarify)] of this "legend" that links together the Illuminati, Mazzini and Pike in a satanic plot for world domination.[22] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Guy_Carr#cite_note-22)

The reference Terry Melanson (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Terry_Melanson&action=edit&redlink=1) gives a good treatment of the Pike letter, to show the origin of the account of unleashing the nihilists, and that a three world war scenario is not to be found in that material. Michael Haupt had taken the three world war theory from the introduction of Carr's Pawns in the Game(1958). This introduction outlines a plan that Carr attributes to Pike, but not to the letter from Pike to Mazzini. Only the last section of the three world war plan in Haupt's text is a quote attributed to the letter from Pike to Mazzini. This quote is virtually identical to the one in Rodrique's book and it can be traced to the book Le diable au XIXe siècle (1894) by Gabriel Jagond-Pager aka Leo Taxil, where it is claimed to be from a letter of Pike to Mazzini written in 1871. This quote was later considered to describe the Bolshevik revolution, but whether a hoax or not, it predates 1917. The book of Jagond-Pager is enlisted in the British Museum, which is what Rodrigues meant by his statement, and it contains the full letter be it hoax or not.

[araucaria]

Sure, but the trouble with historical 'proof' is that we always get into the hoax-not hoax debate. However, if we just take the internal evidence of Laura's post, which is there on the page for all to see, we find a self-invalidating message saying that the game was over before she even started. This begs the question: why even bother coming into this life if my eloquence is going to serve no useful purpose. Whether she realizes it or not, such profound pessimism is deeply unproductive and counter-productive. The first principle for any non-suicidal being is optimism, namely the belief in one's power to intervene effectively and change things for the better.

This attitude is literally half the battle. To paraphrase old man Churchill: 'The optimist has changed the world before the pessimist has had time to get his pants on'.
:)

[ulli]

If anything is real about life it is the "hoax-not hoax debate" as you call it.

Even amongst those people who are still buying into the two-party system,
or who follow a traditional religion...

And those who say that all is one only have a harder time making choices.
When it's all good, what then is bad enough to be discarded?

We here on ths forum may have learnt to step away from consumerism but instead are shoppers of another merchandise...ideas and ideals.
Now that we are faced with a one party system of world government over which we have little control we can remember that we never had much control over the far-out stuff. Not even the close-to-home stuff, like cats who damage our furniture, yet we would never consider taking out their claws.
If we can learn the art of cleaning out our physical or mental attic,
we can raise our happiness factor, as then there is room for novelty.
But the happiest people are the ones who live light.

[The Truth Is In There]

2012 and its boatload of dire predictions which all went down the drain, what's the REALITY earth is left with?


Here is a quote which sums up why, instead of relaxing, one should strengthen one's alertness:



In an article on Sott.net earlier this year entitled How is the World Going to End in 2012? (http://www.sott.net/article/241810-How-is-the-World-Going-to-End-in-2012#), Laura Knight-Jadczyk wrote:

The world is ending in 2012. That is, the final implementation of the fascist, totalitarian New World Order will be accomplished this year and you will be in that "New World" that the global elite have designed for you, and planned to implement for a very long time now. Oh, indeed, similar New World Orders have been staged in the past on smaller scales, but this time it's global because they are all in on it together! Former 'New World Orders' didn't really fail, even if they ostensibly fell; they've just been passing the torch around for millennia, spreading the disease, growing the sickness in society, until finally, now, with global communication and incredible weapons of destruction in their hands, they are ready to finalize the Faustian bargain that you, the people, signed with your blood.

That's what 2012 is all about. It's not about some grand and glorious transformation or ascension to another existence! It's not about being 'raptured' to heaven at the right hand of Jesus because you helped to 'initiate the Eschaton'! It's not about 'Starseeds' being taken aboard spacecraft and getting airlifted to some other planet of the '5th dimension', but it is also not about 'life continuing on as normal'. Pure and simple, prophecy is coming true, it's just that it's going to be much more mundane and much less sensational than you might have imagined. It is the end of your world as normal, free human beings, and your reduction to pure grinding slave-hood, your children turned over to be sex toys or cannon fodder for psychopaths, and there's nothing you can do about it now.


if the 99% let the 1% do this to them then they deserve what they get and then some. too bad the world didn't end yesterday but i won't bury my hopes yet. the real fun starts in 2013.

[Hervé]

[...]

if the 99% let the 1% do this to them then they deserve what they get and then some.
[...]

That's pretty much the discourse the "controllers" are entertaining, whether illuminati, reptilians or any other sort of transdensity entities... friends of yours?

[Ian Gordon]

The question is what is the next step on the hidden agenda? Eyes on America and the financial cliff, keep the people in fear, is the timing right to make a step towards financial collapse, or do they need to remove the guns from the people ready for Marshall law. However whilst eyes focus on the USA what will be slipped in under the radar elsewhere in the world China, Russia, Syria, Israel are all players.
It is an interesting game with many pawns to be played and sacrificed before checkmate is achieved watch the game board and live with love in your heart and bask in the light of truth and compassion.

[Hervé]

The next step is actually the current one: total gun control in any country but especially in the US:


From Carolyn Hamlett via http://www.henrymakow.com/:



I speak from my experience of being born and raised in the globalist organization, taught this plan to take over America and bring America to ruin.

When I was a small child in the 1950's, I knew these types of shootings would be happening just prior to the beginning of the planned chaos.

I also know that the globalist organization has been programming multitudes of individuals at least since the early 1950's, to be triggered to perpetrate the planned chaos in America and in other locations throughout the world.

Many of these programmed people are what I call "sleepers" because they are totally unaware that they have been programmed.

The programming is dormant until the inner clock is triggered which engages the program. I believe that the movie, "Avatar" contains such triggers. I haven't seen the Batman movie, but I suspect it also contains triggers.


GLOBALISTS AIM TO DISARM AMERICANS

The globalist aim to enact strict gun laws and to finally disarm Americans. This has been a target goal for many years. Until the globalist enact strict gun laws, Americans can expect to be seeing more shootings, not just in schools, but in other public places, like malls, parks, libraries, religious meeting places, possibly subways and even airports.

Such "false flag" events were planned many many years ago in order to instill fear in Americans so that they would be more willing to disarm themselves rather than be forced by the globalist to disarm. As a last resort, firearms will be taken by force.

[...]

A final point I wish for you all to consider:

Research all the laws that have been passed since September 11, 2001 and ask yourself what is keeping our globalist-run government from enforcing all those laws. The answer should also be quite obvious.


Full, original article: http://beyondthephysical.blogspot.ca/2012/12/the-shootings-globalists-and-gun.html

[araucaria]

If anything is real about life it is the "hoax-not hoax debate" as you call it.



Yes Ulli, but I would rather put it this Cartesian way: 'I am not a hoax, therefore...' what next?
Laura on the other hand is suggesting that the punchline to our collective joke is 'I am a hoax'. I like to be serious when others are joking and to joke when others are being serious. I find this particular collective joke very unfunny.

Shopping for anything is a wild-goose chase, it suggests something is lacking, whereas someone who has no needs has everything (including cats that behave themselves :)).

I think the 'I am a hoax' game is like playing Pass the Parcel seriously, i.e. to win, and being put out when the layer you remove is not the last - or for that matter being upset at winning what is ultimately only a tiny prize.

[ulli]

If anything is real about life it is the "hoax-not hoax debate" as you call it.



Yes Ulli, but I would rather put it this Cartesian way: 'I am not a hoax, therefore...' what next?
Laura on the other hand is suggesting that the punchline to our collective joke is 'I am a hoax'. I like to be serious when others are joking and to joke when others are being serious. I find this particular collective joke very unfunny.

Shopping for anything is a wild-goose chase, it suggests something is lacking, whereas someone who has no needs has everything (including cats that behave themselves :)).

I think the 'I am a hoax' game is like playing Pass the Parcel seriously, i.e. to win, and being put out when the layer you remove is not the last - or for that matter being upset at winning what is ultimately only a tiny prize.

Consciously dumping Laura and her nihilistic view was a liberating step for me, ....
gosh- that's over ten years ago now. What have I done with those ten years? I moved to the country,
started gardening, enjoyed good health, enjoyed the appearance of two wonderful grandsons, worked hard at developing new designs for my jewelry, traveled, visiting my sons family meant long separations from husband yet I managed to keep the marriage. Found community with Avalon. Studied and learnt more than ever before about the magical nature of the multiverse. So what has Laura accomplished during those years?
Thanks for triggering these questions, araucaria. Made me feel good to be writing these lines down.

[Hervé]

I don't see it as Laura demonstrating or concluding it's all a hoax, whether her work or the "environment;" but, rather, that all her work didn't change that environment much and pretty much gave up in trying when realizing that the "cabal" got way ahead in the race as demonstrated by Kennedy's assassination: the "lizzies"-Rockefeller-Bush clan didn't have any real opponent in their way after that.

[araucaria]

I don't see it as Laura demonstrating or concluding it's all a hoax, whether her work or the "environment;" but, rather, that all her work didn't change that environment much and pretty much gave up in trying when realizing that the "cabal" got way ahead in the race as demonstrated by Kennedy's assassination: the "lizzies"-Rockefeller-Bush clan didn't have any real opponent in their way after that.

Despair is terminal pessimism aka nihilism. The value of sport, a discipline much undervalued on the alternative scene, is that it teaches you that fighting spirit can move mountains and snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. Bread and circuses as a distraction is another myth: circuses are just as vital as bread is.

[ulli]

I don't see it as Laura demonstrating or concluding it's all a hoax, whether her work or the "environment;" but, rather, that all her work didn't change that environment much and pretty much gave up in trying when realizing that the "cabal" got way ahead in the race as demonstrated by Kennedy's assassination: the "lizzies"-Rockefeller-Bush clan didn't have any real opponent in their way after that.

If theosophy has taught me one thing, it is the explanation of levels.
From material at the lowest, to emotional, then the intellectual or mental level,
and above those three finally the spiritual.
The big picture, as I see it, is that the globalization process,
which will lead to a happy unification of mankind had to start a the physical level first.
Global corporations have sprung up, endorsed by the cabal, and this has created a huge divide.
Yet the truth is something greater, and has to do with people creating emotional ties which reach around the globe, and into other cultures. Which means in just one more generation millions will have parents from different countries and cultures and not feel a national identity, but an instead identify with an international humanity.
And right here on this forum I have seen plenty of evidence of telepathy, iow,
of a mental bond between people who have never met. The process of planetary unification cannot be stopped, and it is now up to us whether we allow it to be turned into a top-down slavery system, or whether it will be based on social justice.
A matter of nurturing the right vision.

[gripreaper]

The question is what is the next step on the hidden agenda? Eyes on America and the financial cliff, keep the people in fear, is the timing right to make a step towards financial collapse, or do they need to remove the guns from the people ready for Marshall law.

On the contrary, gun and ammunition sales have skyrocketed in the last four years, and the last week has gone parabolic. So, it appears they want to get all of us armed to the teeth, so that when the SHTF, we will kill each other over a loaf of bread and they wont have to fire a shot.


However whilst eyes focus on the USA what will be slipped in under the radar elsewhere in the world China, Russia, Syria, Israel are all players.

Yes, the USA is the new boogey man, and is viewed as such around the world, since the elite want to take it down a few notches from it's zenith, because they do not want any single country to be powerful. They only allowed the massive economic growth over the last 70 years because they needed an educated and technological society to engineer their black ops and their stellar craft. Now that is done, they can now reduce us to poverty.


It is an interesting game with many pawns to be played and sacrificed before checkmate is achieved watch the game board and live with love in your heart and bask in the light of truth and compassion.

Yes, it is an interesting chess game, and it is good to know who the players are and what moves are being made, while remaining somewhat detached from the drama. I don't think the elite want to totally destroy the US, because it houses their global mercenary bully force, the US military.


It is the end of your world as normal, free human beings, and your reduction to pure grinding slave-hood, your children turned over to be sex toys or cannon fodder for psychopaths, and there's nothing you can do about it now.

This is pessimistic, the polar opposite of nihilistic. I don't subscribe to either of the extreme points of view. To say we are screwed and there is nothing we can do about it is based in a context of pure basic instincts and does not take into consideration the malleability of the matrix or the focused ability of changing outcomes. If she's saying she sees asleep sheep everywhere she goes, then she is somewhat correct, but still, how does one know what goes on inside that person which is not being expressed?

I just think there is more to it. I think there are more people worldwide who are waking up and are becoming aware, even though they are still silent in the collective.

[Hervé]

[...]

Despair is terminal pessimism aka nihilism.

No argument with that one. To laura's credit, however, she addressed the underlying issues almost right from start (she didn't believe in UFOs to start with) and that humanity has been under the grip of a human-reptilian/ET consortium for ages and she has been battling the unfounded, non-sense predictions of catastrophes as much as it's being done on this forum. That she doesn't see the 100th monkey phenomenon occurring is not for lack of trying but is met with that same consortium grip on the majority of people, i.e. the "environment" (see Truman Cash's "The programming of a Planet (http://projectavalon.net/Truman_Cash_The_Programming_of_a_Planet.pdf)").



The value of sport, a discipline much undervalued on the alternative scene, is that it teaches you that fighting spirit can move mountains and snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.

Even that one is being denatured via "enhancing drugs."



Bread and circuses as a distraction is another myth: circuses are just as vital as bread is.

.. for the consortium, I would agree: TV for the older generations and video games for the younger ones... all hypnotic in nature. As for bread... check all the threads on gluten allergies, never mind GMO stuff.

[araucaria]

[...]

Despair is terminal pessimism aka nihilism.

No argument with that one. To laura's credit, however, she addressed the underlying issues almost right from start (she didn't believe in UFOs to start with) and that humanity has been under the grip of a human-reptilian/ET consortium for ages and she has been battling the unfounded, non-sense predictions of catastrophes as much as it's being done on this forum. That she doesn't see the 100th monkey phenomenon occurring is not for lack of trying but is met with that same consortium grip on the majority of people, i.e. the "environment" (see Truman Cash's "The programming of a Planet (http://projectavalon.net/Truman_Cash_The_Programming_of_a_Planet.pdf)").



The value of sport, a discipline much undervalued on the alternative scene, is that it teaches you that fighting spirit can move mountains and snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.

Even that one is being denatured via "enhancing drugs."



Bread and circuses as a distraction is another myth: circuses are just as vital as bread is.

.. for the consortium, I would agree: TV for the older generations and video games for the younger ones... all hypnotic in nature. As for bread... check all the threads on gluten allergies, never mind GMO stuff.

Yes, and the water we drink and the air we breathe are toxic as well etc. etc.; we are a task force operating in an extremely hostile environment, but we are determined to get the job done; the possibility that we may not succeed cannot enter into it.

[ghostrider]

If this isn't proof we live in a matrix, where everything is controlled for a designed outcome, the masses may never break free from mind control. Never give away your power, no one is coming to save you, save yourself and be the change you want to see. Start with a long hard look in the mirror , and be honest with yourself.

[Carmody]

(in response to the opening post)

-fear
-confronted with risk
-uncertainty
-not wanting to die
-looking for a sure bet
-hesitation
-ear to the ground (listening for signs, the rustling of noise and subtle motion in the herd)

And in that scenario
-waiting with the rest of the herd to act, to minimize personal risk

and thus:
-failing to understand the basic psychology and game at play, which is the counter to the above underlying characteristics, the above.... that are at the core of your behavior.

Yes, it really is that simple.

And that:
Predators have instinct and do actually spend all their time playing against the above. To win.

~~~~~~~~~
For all the sheen and seeming complexity of the so-called intellect, the above basic mammalian pattern is the underlying aspect of your reality.

Thus, to frame origins of the view, the lay of the land, and the flow....which create the frameworks for the question itself to emerge.

[araucaria]

If this isn't proof we live in a matrix, where everything is controlled for a designed outcome, the masses may never break free from mind control. Never give away your power, no one is coming to save you, save yourself and be the change you want to see. Start with a long hard look in the mirror , and be honest with yourself.

These truths verge on truisms because the formulations are ones we have all heard before. When you say something to someone that they don’t understand for whatever reason, there is no point repeating yourself, you have to find an alternative formulation. When someone has got a gun to your head, you keep talking until something registers. It may not be what you think, because the truth for that person is not just something that strikes a chord for you, it has to strike a chord for them.

More truisms? Well then, let’s keep talking.

[Hervé]

Anyway, what I was trying to say in the OP is this:

Now that the predictions of dire catastrophes have all failed, may be the majority of the people will be less distracted by the like of Nibiru or Elenin and start taking a closer look at what the "cabal/consortium" are doing? You know, like pedophiles rings, Satanic ritual sacrifices, sex slaves, robots, sleepers, drug trade, black ops, etc...

[Carmody]

Anyway, what I was trying to say in the OP is this:

Now that the predictions of dire catastrophes have all failed, may be the majority of the people will be less distracted by the like of Nibiru or Elenin and start taking a closer look at what the "cabal/consortium" are doing? You know, like pedophiles rings, Satanic ritual sacrifices, sex slaves, robots, sleepers, drug trade, black ops, etc...

Hopefully so.

And that these scenarios, with their fading levels of connectedness and awareness, as singular observed events, will cease to distract this all important group, this group which always forms the leading edge of this given awareness.... which becomes (helps shape) the given motion of the whole.

The moment of connected vision passes. Now comes the hard work. Put away any potential disappointment, and understand that something was glimpsed, something was touched. Now, work for it. In the real sense.

[Lazlo]

As for the contenders of the above letter being a hoax:

William Guy Carr (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Guy_Carr)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Confusion has arisen as to the precise source of Carr's Three World Wars scenario. As is the case with many of his claims, Carr does not provide a source for that scenario, but mentions a letter written by Pike and addressed to Italian revolutionary leader Giuseppe Mazzini (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuseppe_Mazzini), which outlines a plan for unleashing "Nihilists and Atheists", after World War Three has ended. The confusion was created when Michael Haupt launched his website threeworldwars.com, which mistakenly assumed that Carr also attributed the World War Three scenario to the Pike letter. In fact, the authenticity of this letter is disputed.[19] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Guy_Carr#cite_note-19) Carr states that he learned about the letter from the anti-Mason (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Masonry), Cardinal Caro y Rodriguez (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caro_y_Rodriguez) of Santiago (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santiago,_Chile), Chile (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chile), author of The Mystery of Freemasonry Unveiled (Hawthorne, CA, Christian Book Club of America, 1971). However, Carr's later book, Satan, Prince of This World (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Satan,_Prince_of_This_World&action=edit&redlink=1) (written in 1959), includes the following footnote: "The Keeper of manuscripts recently informed the author that this letter is NOT catalogued in the British Museum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Museum) Library. It seems strange that a man of Cardinal Rodriguez's knowledge should have said that it WAS in 1925."[20] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Guy_Carr#cite_note-20) More recently, the British Museum confirmed in writing to researcher Michael Haupt (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Michael_Haupt&action=edit&redlink=1)[21] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Guy_Carr#cite_note-21) that such a document has never been in their possession. Pierre-André Taguieff states that Carr gave an ultimate and synthetic account[clarification needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Please_clarify)] of this "legend" that links together the Illuminati, Mazzini and Pike in a satanic plot for world domination.[22] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Guy_Carr#cite_note-22)

The reference Terry Melanson (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Terry_Melanson&action=edit&redlink=1) gives a good treatment of the Pike letter, to show the origin of the account of unleashing the nihilists, and that a three world war scenario is not to be found in that material. Michael Haupt had taken the three world war theory from the introduction of Carr's Pawns in the Game(1958). This introduction outlines a plan that Carr attributes to Pike, but not to the letter from Pike to Mazzini. Only the last section of the three world war plan in Haupt's text is a quote attributed to the letter from Pike to Mazzini. This quote is virtually identical to the one in Rodrique's book and it can be traced to the book Le diable au XIXe siècle (1894) by Gabriel Jagond-Pager aka Leo Taxil, where it is claimed to be from a letter of Pike to Mazzini written in 1871. This quote was later considered to describe the Bolshevik revolution, but whether a hoax or not, it predates 1917. The book of Jagond-Pager is enlisted in the British Museum, which is what Rodrigues meant by his statement, and it contains the full letter be it hoax or not.

There is no further link in wiki to substantiate the pre 1917 date, and on the face of it you have to consider the anachronisms that just plain smell funny. For instance, the term Nazi wasn't coined until at least 1930 and was used by the British as a perjorative term. The Germans themselves used the term National Socialists.

The Leo Taxil reference is a quagmire of cross references from message boards and conspiracy sites. This is one of my biggest frustrations with the alt community: Believing what reinforces one's conclusions and not pursuing the issue further.

There are many very real problems that we face, but this isn't one of them.

[Carmody]

yes, Lazlo. the emperors of old (and new) have food tasters for a reason.

IMO, that this cannot be used to invalidate the argument, or entire thrust.

It would be comparable to attempting to invalidate an an entire war effort due to one soldier on the offensive/opposing side as being found to actually be 'nice'.

that one must be VERY careful with what you have introduced. that an entire effort can be killed off, by the introduction of a moment or particle of doubt, in any way, shape, or form. Humans have this black and white issue/problem in their psychology and thus actions, you see......

It's that damn herd instinct coming back to bite them in the ass, it comes in the form of their inertia,and their desire to solve problems by not being involved. We naturally desire to be at the center of the herd, where we have our most peaceful sleep.

Let the edge of the herd be the alarm and be the ones eaten.

That is part and parcel of the underlying animal that the thoughts in the mind are created out of, whether the given human realizes it or not. +99% of humans live and exist like that.

Thus, that which is nefarious always tries to induce sleep, and plants doubt. Always.

Thus, always be careful with how doubt is presented, when trying to invigorate a group.

When attempting to disarm a group, standing their midst, insert doubt, all while looking innocent.

[avid]

Confused to hell and back... BUT we KNOW we are being sent to hell - that is a plus - because we are AWARE!!! I will NOT COMPLY to the railroading of my family into sheepledom - they are becoming aware and kicking against the pricks of my observance. Whatever it takes - I will persevere. We could live in enclaves, but it's the big picture which must be addressed. I KNOW the local perpetrators - the minions of the giant cabal, they are so mind-controlled for the 'environmental cause' in our neighbourhood it's ridiculous. Our neighbourhood has huge nuclear issues - the local lobby has been overrun by corporate greed backhanders into the councils. Democracy has gone. However - we KNOW who they are and who are bribed. The 'handshakers' are the traitors - we can stop buying from them. We can stop their farming strategies by opening debates on public access. We can damn their efforts to windfarm our local land with evidence of negative weather situations. We can be such a nuisance to them as they are to us.... They should be labelled as pariahs to our locale...., both in their (under)cover for 'service to the community', and to check on their supposedly open bank accounts for that 'service'.

[gripreaper]

Anyway, what I was trying to say in the OP is this:

Now that the predictions of dire catastrophes have all failed, may be the majority of the people will be less distracted by the like of Nibiru or Elenin and start taking a closer look at what the "cabal/consortium" are doing? You know, like pedophiles rings, Satanic ritual sacrifices, sex slaves, robots, sleepers, drug trade, black ops, etc...

Hopefully so.

And that these scenarios, with their fading levels of connectedness and awareness, as singular observed events, will cease to distract this all important group, this group which always forms the leading edge of this given awareness.... which becomes (helps shape) the given motion of the whole.

Ok, so the general consensus is that we need to bring all of the elite globalists shenanigans out into the full light of day, as that is the only way to win this game, and we damn sure better realize this game as real because they do.

Yup, I get it. The first thought that ran through my mind when I heard about Sandy Hook was, "those damn Archon's are at it again" and why?

They understand how the matrix works, and how to manipulate the energy of the masses. Why don't we? Why are they doing these mass shootings using their project Monarch developed MK Ultra mind controlled patsies on a regular basis now and really vibrating the fear energy? Why is it that they are controlling the discourse that follows and ramming down the collective psyche fears about guns and preppers?

I've read quite a bit of the Horus Ra thread, and I believe it is one of the most important threads on Avalon, as well as Wade Frazier's thread. If you took away all of the other threads and left just these two, Avalon would not be worse off. But, as an individual, what can I do? I have this answer mostly, but it still lacks inertia when it comes to the collective. So far this Christmas season, all I've done is alienate my extended family with my views, not bring them closer together. They are of the died in the wool christian persuasion and any discourse just deteriorates into a preaching session.

But I have resolved a few things, which are:

1. I am going to speak my truth wholly in every situation no matter the outcome.
2. I am going to expose the shennanigans of the Archon's wherever I can, and I am going to challenge anyone into debate who wishes to disagree.
3. I am going to introduce Dr. Schessler's cell salts into my diet, as my cerebrum needs more help against all of the onslaughts of toxicity being thrown at me every day, and the oil elixirs from my pineal gland are not making it down the dijed to the other glands, and returning to awaken my higher mind. ( See all of Santos Bonacci's recent videos for an explanation of this)
4. I will continue to dialogue and debate with others here at Avalon to expand my world view and to clarify it, while also releasing the sacred memes I am reluctant to let go of.
5. I would also like to start the process of producing the Philosopher's Stone as described in the "Book of Aquarius" this year.
6. I will also juice more this year, eat more raw foods, and exercise more.

Now, when it comes to how to help the collective, in addition to what I can do personally, I'm all ears.

[Fred Steeves]

But I have resolved a few things, which are:

1. I am going to speak my truth wholly in every situation no matter the outcome.


That's the one I just sort of started doing not too long ago grip, not really because of any conscious decision, but it just feels the time is right to do it. If you're going to be in the big boy game, then you have to be a big boy.

A year ago when I would occassionally do this, it was summarily dismissed with smirks. Now I seldom hesitate if it's relevant to the conversation. It's still often enough dismissed, but the smirking is no more. People are atleast listening. It seems more like the person HAS to dismiss the information just out of habit, but that they are now more likely to to go back and think on it again later.

Surely part of that is learning through trial and error, and presentation means everything. Like the old Zen story of the over flowing tea cup, there is a point where they've had enough, and it's time to let it go. Even crack a joke or something, change the subject. It takes the edge off, and allows them time to come to their own conclusions.

[DeDukshyn]

Whats left is the lesson to stop living your minds OUTSIDE THE PRESENT MOMENT.

[DeDukshyn]

Anyway, what I was trying to say in the OP is this:

Now that the predictions of dire catastrophes have all failed, may be the majority of the people will be less distracted by the like of Nibiru or Elenin and start taking a closer look at what the "cabal/consortium" are doing? You know, like pedophiles rings, Satanic ritual sacrifices, sex slaves, robots, sleepers, drug trade, black ops, etc...


Oh right! "Business as usual!", with the addition of "robots" how fascinating! (well for the last 8,000+ years -- this is what life has been about .. isn't it?) Bring on more of the same!! lol ... I'm not being that sarcastic, I want us all to see what we have been for the last thousands of years is also our plan for the future? The fight cannot be fought in the ways of old ... they have yet to work ... ever. Let's think big! ...






"Think big, that's only half as large
Bigger, better, twice as hard
Outsized, extra large
Velocity very fast
Bigger than the closest star
Bigger than the motor car ..."

[MorningSong]

Hey folks! Not sure this is the right place for this post, but I feel that it is, kinda. I think it shows that something is really broken in this world and we really need to fix it.... and soon.

Re-quoting Amzer-zo:
Now that the predictions of dire catastrophes have all failed, may be the majority of the people will be less distracted by the like of Nibiru or Elenin and start taking a closer look at what the "cabal/consortium" are doing? You know, like pedophiles rings, Satanic ritual sacrifices, sex slaves, robots, sleepers, drug trade, black ops, etc... This is what, in part, the following document tries to do for the people it was to address.

I just saw this documentary posted on Rumor Mill News that was quite interesting. It is a "propaganda" film out of N. Korea.... their way of seeing "us" from their side of the fence.

I'll advise that it is full of anti-Western dogmas and half-truths, yet tinged with some things we at Avalon discuss on our search for "truth". It also contains very vivid pictures of the dead and dying, so I suggest only listening for the extra-faint hearted. In fact, at YT, you are given a warning and have to verify your age to even see the vid (at least here in Italy, it is so).

Here is what the person who downloaded it to YT has posted:


Pubblicato in data 13/lug/2012

Here is the formal statement I gave to Federal Police on 16 June 2012:

On a trip to visit family in Seoul in April, I was approached by a man and a woman who claimed to be North Korean defectors. They presented me with a DVD that recently came into their possession and asked me to translate it. They also asked me to post the completed film on the Internet so that it could reach a worldwide audience. I believed what I was told and an agreement was made to protect their identities (and mine).

Despite my concerns about what I was viewing when I returned home, I proceeded to translate and post the film on You Tube because of the film's extraordinary content. I have now made public my belief that this film was never intended for a domestic audience in the DPRK. Instead, I believe that these people, who presented themselves as 'defectors' specifically targeted me because of my reputation as a translator and interpreter.

Furthermore, I now believe these people work for the DPRK. The fact that I have continued to translate and post the film in spite of this belief does not make me complicit in their intention to spread their ideology. I chose to keep posting this film because - regardless of who made it - I believe people should see it because of the issues it raises and I stand by my right to post it for people to share and discuss freely with each other.


Here is the RMN link:

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=264075

And here is the direct link to YT:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6NMr2VrhmFI

I apologize if this has already been posted and discussed on the forum, as this is the first time I've have seen it and thought it might have some worth on this thread.

If for any reason this vid is not appropriate on the thread or even on the forum, I will fully understand if this post should get deleted.

[ThePythonicCow]

But, as an individual, what can I do? I have this answer mostly, but it still lacks inertia when it comes to the collective.
How does a snow flake create an avalanche?

It connects with what it can around it, as best as it can.

Perhaps the avalanche happens sooner, perhaps later.

The mental filter we sometimes use of "what will get things moving for the collective" is only a useful filter when we already happen to see and know something that will do that, and in that case we're usually too busy doing what we saw an opportunity to do to ask such questions. The rest of the time, that filter risks being used to suppress the useful actions we do see how to take, in the here and now, on a more local or personal or detailed level.

Take the next step where you see it can be taken. Don't worry too much that you don't usually see just how that particular step will get us all to the "top of the mountain."

[DeDukshyn]

Hey folks! Not sure this is the right place for this post, but I feel that it is, kinda. I think it shows that something is really broken in this world and we really need to fix it.... and soon.

Re-quoting Amzer-zo:
Now that the predictions of dire catastrophes have all failed, may be the majority of the people will be less distracted by the like of Nibiru or Elenin and start taking a closer look at what the "cabal/consortium" are doing? You know, like pedophiles rings, Satanic ritual sacrifices, sex slaves, robots, sleepers, drug trade, black ops, etc... This is what, in part, the following document tries to do for the people it was to address.

I just saw this documentary posted on Rumor Mill News that was quite interesting. It is a "propaganda" film out of N. Korea.... their way of seeing "us" from their side of the fence.

I'll advise that it is full of anti-Western dogmas and half-truths, yet tinged with some things we at Avalon discuss on our search for "truth". It also contains very vivid pictures of the dead and dying, so I suggest only listening for the extra-faint hearted. In fact, at YT, you are given a warning and have to verify your age to even see the vid (at least here in Italy, it is so).

Here is what the person who downloaded it to YT has posted:


Pubblicato in data 13/lug/2012

Here is the formal statement I gave to Federal Police on 16 June 2012:

On a trip to visit family in Seoul in April, I was approached by a man and a woman who claimed to be North Korean defectors. They presented me with a DVD that recently came into their possession and asked me to translate it. They also asked me to post the completed film on the Internet so that it could reach a worldwide audience. I believed what I was told and an agreement was made to protect their identities (and mine).

Despite my concerns about what I was viewing when I returned home, I proceeded to translate and post the film on You Tube because of the film's extraordinary content. I have now made public my belief that this film was never intended for a domestic audience in the DPRK. Instead, I believe that these people, who presented themselves as 'defectors' specifically targeted me because of my reputation as a translator and interpreter.

Furthermore, I now believe these people work for the DPRK. The fact that I have continued to translate and post the film in spite of this belief does not make me complicit in their intention to spread their ideology. I chose to keep posting this film because - regardless of who made it - I believe people should see it because of the issues it raises and I stand by my right to post it for people to share and discuss freely with each other.


Here is the RMN link:

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=264075

And here is the direct link to YT:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6NMr2VrhmFI

I apologize if this has already been posted and discussed on the forum, as this is the first time I've have seen it and thought it might have some worth on this thread.

If for any reason this vid is not appropriate on the thread or even on the forum, I will fully understand if this post should get deleted.

I just watched about half the video and all I have to say is from what I have seen so far ... What A load Of .. Truth!!! ;) Yet nothing much has ever changed ... Time is Now!

[KiwiElf]

So few "leaders"... and SOooo many followers...

[Hervé]

[...]

Yup, I get it. The first thought that ran through my mind when I heard about Sandy Hook was, "those damn Archon's are at it again" and why?

They understand how the matrix works, and how to manipulate the energy of the masses. Why don't we? Why are they doing these mass shootings using their project Monarch developed MK Ultra mind controlled patsies on a regular basis now and really vibrating the fear energy? Why is it that they are controlling the discourse that follows and ramming down the collective psyche fears about guns and preppers?

[...]

See ignored post # 10 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53442-Now-that-the-distractions-of-predicted-catastrophes-have-come-and-gone-what-s-left&p=604006&viewfull=1#post604006) ... Agenda 21... as well as this:


[...]




The sorrowful history of the Grays


[...]


once, the Grays used to live on their own planet
they fell prey to an invasion, which they haven't been aware of
unsighted, another race (probably Reptilians) caused catastrophes on their planet
when survival on their planet was almost impossible, the intruders appeared like saviours
the condition for their "help" was the obedience of the Grays
Alex Collier goes into more details on how the greys were about to disappear as an ethnic group because the lizzies got onto their case (and planet) and turned the females of the grey's species infertile and therefore unable to reproduce and provide for "containers" for their souls. Then the lizzies stepped in and proposed the greys with their cloning technology in exchange for their subservience.


[...]

[Hervé]

Whats left is the lesson to stop living your minds OUTSIDE THE PRESENT MOMENT.

I gather that you are aware enough to know that the "Pesent Moment" includes all the "good" and "bad" occurring at that moment across the planet and this and other universes... so... on this planet, is there a balance or is one of the plate tipping on the side of wars, satanic rituals, rapes, homicides, genocides, guerillas, black ops, false flags, individual and mass mind control, etc?

[Hervé]

As for the contenders of the above letter being a hoax:

William Guy Carr (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Guy_Carr)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[...]

... This quote is virtually identical to the one in Rodrique's book and it can be traced to the book Le diable au XIXe siècle (1894) by Gabriel Jagond-Pager aka Leo Taxil, where it is claimed to be from a letter of Pike to Mazzini written in 1871. This quote was later considered to describe the Bolshevik revolution, but whether a hoax or not,it predates 1917. The book of Jagond-Pager is enlisted in the British Museum, which is what Rodrigues meant by his statement, and it contains the full letter be it hoax or not.

[...]

... This is one of my biggest frustrations with the alt community: Believing what reinforces one's conclusions and not pursuing the issue further.

There are many very real problems that we face, but this isn't one of them.

Let me bring to your attention some content of a strange archive belonging to one of the top controllers of this planet:


The followings are excerpted from Sue Arrigo's case 20 (http://avalonlibrary.net/Sue_Arrigo/):

[...]

A History of Skull and Bones Rituals Recalled From their Own Archives

[...]

The CIA did find methods to make over 90% of people criminals without a discernible conscience. They started with the basic Skull and Bone’s ritual and had already made some improvements in it by the time Rodman Rockefeller tasked me to look into the issue. He was not happy with the almost 10% failure rate. Ops were run on Congressmen, CEO’s, and foreign dignitaries. Having to kill 10% of them soon after inviting them to a “DC Party” was a high security risk--- someone might notice and leak that to a part of the press which was not well controlled. So, Rodman was very anxious that the “failure rate”get below 5%.

Rodman brought me the historical records from the Skull and Bone’s Crypt. That included a blood smear on paper for each of the major rituals, and also financial records, and diaries...

[...]

That era came to an end when one of the parents of a sacrificed boy found out about it. The other students in that year were given a choice to serve in WWI or be put in prison. They chose military service. It was a curious choice to give them as the US was not in WWI yet—in fact, no one was. It would take several more years before WWI started. The Bonesmen elders were behind schedule in getting it off the ground. Per the documents in the Rockefeller Archive much preparation had been done to ensure a world war...

[…]

The upshot is that "they" do get behind schedule... windows of opportunity for the "useless eaters" to take advantage of...

Any need to bring into the picture the work of Dr. John Coleman on the "Committee of 300? Or on the "Club of Rome" or "Diplomacy by Deception?" what about Bill Cooper? Ted Gunderson? Fritz Springmeier? Svali? Bryce Taylor? Cathy O'Brien? Kay Griggs?

[Lazlo]

The followings are excerpted from Sue Arrigo's case 20 (http://avalonlibrary.net/Sue_Arrigo/):



Thanks for the malware. Thank god my antivirus is up to date.

I'm not denying the existence of TPTB. My problem is with spurious "documents" that are used as "proof." With few exceptions, a close read shows the true value of said proofs.

[sigma6]

we are a task force operating in an extremely hostile environment, but we are determined to get the job done; the possibility that we may not succeed cannot enter into it.

'Succeeding' in the next few years would wrap things in a nice bow...
In the grand scheme of things the more fundamental principle would be whether you did everything in your power toward that effort,
that is all...

...if it is our generation to succeed, so be it, and if it is the next then that will be an equally valid victory...
that is what it means to be a man, with the curse of such a short lifespan
Revel in your time...

[DeDukshyn]

Whats left is the lesson to stop living your minds OUTSIDE THE PRESENT MOMENT.

I gather that you are aware enough to know that the "Pesent Moment" includes all the "good" and "bad" occurring at that moment across the planet and this and other universes... so... on this planet, is there a balance or is one of the plate tipping on the side of wars, satanic rituals, rapes, homicides, genocides, guerillas, black ops, false flags, individual and mass mind control, etc?

I am aware enough to have experienced what exactly it is to be in the "present moment". And I am aware enough to know that if enough people learn this skill, it will change everything.

[Hervé]

[...]

... My problem is with spurious "documents" that are used as "proof." With few exceptions, a close read shows the true value of said proofs.

... with which it seems that the point of my posts are kept being missed and diverted from... said point being that these events have been, and are being, planned long in advance!

The "solutions" presented and/or slipped in with the rest of post wars agreement -- these wars which were the "problems" and their inherent "reactions" to -- were the "League of Nations" and the "Balfour Treaty" for WW I and the UN and the state of Israel for WW II. That is, a permanent source of tension ("problems" and their inherent "reactions") in that part of the world and its "solution" via the UN.

As for the document presented, I'll be interested in getting a comparison of the original one from 1894 that's registered at the British Museum with the one full of anachronisms to check if said anachronisms are included in there. If not then someone is trying to palm off that document as a fake. Same story as for the "Protocols of the Elders of Sion" which was declared, legally, as a "forgery." A forgery implies an ORIGINAL from which the forgery differs due to some inaccurate details but the aspect of the whole being damn close to the original. Never mind that the implementation of the "protocols" guidelines are being made more and more obvious by the day.

That's the whole point of disinformation: lace the truth with enough lies to turn the whole thing into a ball of confusion. Same result with trees versus the forest. My approach is: Well, if all these trees are there, then, there must be a pretty big wood if not a forest. Otherwise, one will keep missing doing something about the fire from all the smoke hiding it and end up denying there is a fire, at all.

[araucaria]

A forgery implies an ORIGINAL from which the forgery differs due to some inaccurate details but the aspect of the whole being damn close to the original.


I beg to disagree. The Hitler diaries were a forgery simply because Hitler kept no diary.

[Hervé]

A forgery implies an ORIGINAL from which the forgery differs due to some inaccurate details but the aspect of the whole being damn close to the original.


I beg to disagree. The Hitler diaries were a forgery simply because Hitler kept no diary.

In a court case?

[ThePythonicCow]

A forgery implies an ORIGINAL from which the forgery differs due to some inaccurate details but the aspect of the whole being damn close to the original.


I beg to disagree. The Hitler diaries were a forgery simply because Hitler kept no diary.
Good point :).

Perhaps that observation should be reworded: "A forgery implies the plausible existence of an ORIGINAL ..."

[161803398]

"....a First Nations prophecy that the time of the Seventh Fire will be when the reborn First Nations will offer spiritual recovery to North Americans of European ancestry.

The Seventh Prophet that came to the people long ago was said to be different from the other prophets. This prophet was described as "young and had a strange light in his eyes" and said:
“ In the time of the Seventh Fire New People will emerge. They will retrace their steps to find what was left by the trail. Their steps will take them to the Elders who they will ask to guide them on their journey. But many of the Elders will have fallen asleep. They will awaken to this new time with nothing to offer. Some of the Elders will be silent because no one will ask anything of them. The New People will have to be careful in how they approach the Elders. The task of the New People will not be easy.

If the New People will remain strong in their quest the Water Drum of the Midewiwin Lodge will again sound its voice. There will be a rebirth of the Anishinabe Nation and a rekindling of old flames. The Sacred Fire will again be lit.

It is this time that the light skinned race will be given a choice between two roads. If they choose the right road, then the Seventh Fire will light the Eighth and final Fire, an eternal fire of peace, love brotherhood and sisterhood. If the light skinned race makes the wrong choice of the roads, then the destruction which they brought with them in coming to this country will come back at them and cause much suffering and death to all the Earth's people."

"The Eighth Fire is a term arising from the teachings of the Seven fires prophecy. The teaching suggests that if enough people—of all colors and faiths—turn from materialism and instead choose a path of respect, wisdom and spirituality, environmental and social catastrophe can be avoided, and an era of spiritual illumination will unfold."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_fires_prophecy -D

While some people were sitting all warm in their homes waiting to be hit by gamma rays or WHATEVER others were out in the snow......

http://stream.aljazeera.com/story/201212220102-0022448

http://www.youtube.com/watch?YMiIvKBGfVE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?x2Nx4jUEZfc

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/12/21/thousands-of-first-nations-idle-no-more-protesters-demand-meeting

http://www.globalmontreal.com/first+nations+idle+no+more+protests+continue+across+canada/6442776792/story.html

[161803398]

Get out your feathers and drums people:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?40_82gI3KUk

I think these guys are going places.

[Hervé]

[...]

I beg to disagree. The Hitler diaries were a forgery simply because Hitler kept no diary.
Good point :).

Perhaps that observation should be reworded: "A forgery implies the plausible existence of an ORIGINAL ..."

All right, my turn to "beg to differ":

Webster's New World Dictionary af American English:

Forgery: 1) the act or legal offense of imitating or counterfeiting documents, signatures, work of arts, etc. to deceive 2) anything forged


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Forgery is the process of making, adapting, or imitating objects, statistics, or documents (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_documents) with the intent to deceive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deception). Copies, studio replicas, and reproductions are not considered forgeries, though they may later become forgeries through knowing and willful misrepresentations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misrepresentation). Forging money (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money) or currency (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currency) is more often called counterfeiting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterfeit). But consumer goods (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_good) may also be counterfeits if they are not manufactured or produced by the designated manufacture or producer given on the label (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Label) or flagged by the trademark (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark) symbol. When the object forged is a record or document (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Document) it is often called a false document (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_document).

This usage of "forgery" does not derive from metalwork done at a forge, but it has a parallel history. A sense of "to counterfeit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterfeit)" is already in the Anglo-French verb forger, meaning "falsify."

A hoax is a deliberately fabricated falsehood made to masquerade as truth.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoax#cite_note-MacDougall_6-1) It is distinguishable from errors in observation or judgment,[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoax#cite_note-MacDougall_6-1) or rumors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumor), urban legends (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_legend), pseudosciences (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoscience) or April Fools' Day (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Fools%27_Day) events that are passed along in good faith by believers or as jokes.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoax#cite_note-Brunvand_194-2)


In the case of the "Protocols," it appears that the pudding is being discarded: the implementation of their guidelines worlrd wide since, at least, the beginning of the last century and of which the Federal Reserve was the choice tool: loans to nations till all of them are bankrupt.

Similar pudding for Albert Pike's "letter."

[araucaria]

The Hitler Diaries were purportedly handwritten by our friend Adolf, to that extent they were a forgery, not a hoax.

I think the Sunday newspaper that published excerpts probably pulled the plugged on the story before it got to court. I won't check because I feel we are getting off topic here.

[The Truth Is In There]

[...]

if the 99% let the 1% do this to them then they deserve what they get and then some.
[...]

That's pretty much the discourse the "controllers" are entertaining, whether illuminati, reptilians or any other sort of transdensity entities... friends of yours?

nope, no friends of mine but i can identify with the logic of cause and effect. the cause is the indifference and apathy of large parts of humanity and the effect is increased suffering. the reasons for the current conditions here on earth are not "reptilians" or "transdensity entities", it's humanity. but of course it's much easier to blame others instead of looking for the fault in one's own species. it used to be other religions, other skin colours, other you-name-it, now it's other beings. wow...

so, what do humans do if things get worse, if the evil aliens do more bad stuff, do they rise up and do something about it? no, they watch it getting worse and worse. from a universal perspective, why should such a species be allowed to continue its existence? it has nothing to offer souls in terms of growth if they incarnate into such vehicles, only the collective wallowing in misery, the struggle of the individual to reduce the own suffering below the level of the majority, to at least be better off than the rest, and the use of power and wealth for their own gain if given the chance.

humanity is an experiment gone bad. humans, as opposed to animals, have the means to do something collectively against oppression but chose not to do it. no, given the chance many would become oppressors themselves, as can be seen by the corruptible nature of those in power or coming into power. otherwise the system with sex slaves, drugs, power, wealth and what-have-you wouldn't work as well, would it? i dare say at least 95% of all humans would behave similarly to those "rulers" if given power and money.

so, if 95% of the petri dish has been taken over by a pathogen and the remaining 5% are threatened to be killed or turn pathogenic as well, isn't it better to eliminate the entire colony and start again from scratch? of course, the environment could be changed to one that favours the 5% but i don't see that happening. currently it favours the 95% with no end in sight.

[Finefeather]

The big picture, as I see it, is that the globalization process,
which will lead to a happy unification of mankind had to start a the physical level first.
Global corporations have sprung up, endorsed by the cabal, and this has created a huge divide.
Yet the truth is something greater, and has to do with people creating emotional ties which reach around the globe, and into other cultures. Which means in just one more generation millions will have parents from different countries and cultures and not feel a national identity, but an instead identify with an international humanity.
And right here on this forum I have seen plenty of evidence of telepathy, iow,
of a mental bond between people who have never met. The process of planetary unification cannot be stopped, and it is now up to us whether we allow it to be turned into a top-down slavery system, or whether it will be based on social justice.
A matter of nurturing the right vision.
This is the wisest of all the posts on this thread. Here is the answer before our eyes and most fail to see it because we are locked into an 'us and them' way of thinking...almost a herd like thinking which separates families, nations, groups and everyone we think is against our own personal, more than often, ignorant, little, self imposed world.

The goal of enlightenment is...and maybe I should use a different approach to get this across, in a simpler way...to gain the amount of true inner knowledge and wisdom to realise that this physical manifestation we are a part of is a game of understanding the nature of the many conflicting forces which can and are being created, by us, for us each to resolve in our own way and own time. The consequences are what we see around us.
When we stand back a few steps and gaze at the bigger plan...which can only be realised when we are a little further along the path of our own revelation of truth...we will start to sing a different song.

Globalization is an inevitable fact of the evolutionary path of, not only humanity, but, everything that exists. On the one hand we all have this notion that we are supposed to be ONE and on the other we want to separate because of our differences. Do we really know what being ONE is?...I think not...despite all the utterances of understanding we hear from those on this forum and around us.
The trick is to see the differences and work on the situation for the benefit of the whole...but we cannot do this whilst we are still like children in a sandpit fighting for our little space.
I see most on this forum as still too busy creating divisions when the goal in life is to unite us as ONE human family. Each has his/her idea of the nature of this union but this always seems to imply some destruction of another idea. So this alone proves intolerance and lack of vision to see the bigger picture.

The article by Laura Knight-Jadczyk is a perfect example of someone who has zero understanding of the bigger picture. Her Life is being consumed and determined by phenomena which have been around for centuries without offering any real solution. She has made up her mind as most on this thread have that the only way out is no way out. This article is the epitome of the state of the alternate thinker and all those who just cannot understand the nature of evolution and the workings of the human mind.

Lets take a quick look at the 3 wars story we read about in this post:

You can read this here...
From an evolutionary point of view I see nothing wrong with these reasons for war...although a bit on the violent side, for some...death is a part of life's lessons...and if we know we do not actually die...what is the sad part or horror about it?...our lack of understanding and grasping the nature of life?
Is it not the desire of many in the alternate community to see religion done away with because of the power it has over the mass thinking? Just because the Illuminati wants to do it is of no consequence in the bigger picture, they become and are just a tool for evolutionary progress...and what about the idea that the Illuminati are running religions for their own purposes and are now deciding to do away with it? What is their purpose if they are just creating a bigger single group which has the potential of over powering them as much as they believe would be easier to control?
AND...so what if the Illuminati wants to reduce the population...who is actually going to loose here?...only those who know nothing about the opportunity that awaits in other worlds and other dimensions and those who think life on earth is all it is.
Even the Illuminati have little idea of how their idealism is been exploited by the power of the forces which guide and determine our future...and maybe just maybe it is the Illuminati who see the real picture and not the alternative community, who might still be locked in the battle between a Satanic Being and an all powerful 'God'. What is the real nature of Lucifer?...and what if the name of Lucifer has over many centuries just been cleverly dishonoured by religions to keep us away from the real truth and purpose of this Bringer of Light? What if Lucifer where the real truth and all other religion the real threat to our enlightenment?

Now...Just a word to those thinking I forgot something. The many ritualistic phenomena that we know takes place in our world, like child molestation, torture, rape, murder etc etc has all been blamed on the association of those who carry out these atrocities with satanic forces and somewhere along the way Lucifer was dragged in on the act as well...all to keep us off course...a genius bit of doing to steer us away from something, someone does not want us to find out about. If you take some time to ponder my words you might come to different conclusions and realise just how the alternative media has been fooled...by our own ignorance.
We see articles splashed all over the alternative media about Freemasons and their evil doings, is this really a fact, even with all the so called proof, or is it just another clever plot to side track us.
I can find not one word in the TRUE mysteries and secret doctrines of Freemasonry, which I have access to, which even come close to suggesting the atrocities which we see associated with them.
If I look at the Lucifer Story...and a fine example of this is the claim by many that Lucis Trust and Alice Bailey are Illuminati tools...but again...there is not one word ever written by her which supports any 'evil' doing. You might want to consider, as well, what this organisation, Lucis Trust, is doing in the United Nations, other than the claims that it is promoting some underhand agenda.
Do we think that 'good' is not also cleverly infiltrated amongst the 'bad'? Many highly advanced Souls are working quietly behind the scenes with their feet deep in the back streets of hell and their beautiful light shining steadily and quietly...uplifting where ever they find the opportunity.

The most significant thing about 21/12/2012 is the birth of the Aquarian Age which many have read about and many have sung about. The qualities of the forces and energies which are now in manifestation are those which will take us into a new awareness of life. The way we use these forces is up to us...in our own personal life...as well as for us as a collective. The stage is starting to take shape and the current Chaos and Fear and Ignorance is ready for transformation into Peace, Love and Knowledge. We are at the beginning of the end of our struggle and should not for one moment think all will be well tomorrow or next week or even next year. We are better equipped than ever before with many from other worlds and many older and more wiser ones choosing to join us in our final revelation...but we have one thing to keep in our minds...if we created this mess we need to clean it up...and so we will.
We need to cultivate three qualities in us to fulfill this task...Courage, Patience and Love.

I would like to make it quite clear that what I have written above is a minute vision of my understanding of this crisis we are in, it is very complex, and you should see this in your own current understanding for now. It is impossible for me to spend an hour or so on a forum post and even come close to the wonderful and somewhat mysterious nature of the ONE which we are. The work lies in your hands to reveal your own nature.

Love to All
Ray

[778 neighbour of some guy]

start taking a closer look at what the "cabal/consortium" are doing? You know, like pedophiles rings, Satanic ritual sacrifices, sex slaves, robots, sleepers, drug trade, black ops, etc...

From "The commitee of 300"by Dr John Coleman, page 16/18, this book is from 1991, its in the ebooks list that Bill posted in the books/vids/articles section of the forum a while ago, i am sure you can still find this there, this is a copy and paste job by me from the PDF, dont know how the lay out will work out by doing so but i guess you have to with it, if not, download from from above named section in case it made you curious about their alledged plans for us, a good video to watch btw is the Yuri Bezmenov video, you can find it all over the place here and on Youtube.

Here s the copy paste job from the book fyi, if it does not fit in one post, i'll make a second, according to this sicko 21 point "to do list " we are not even dead enough when we are dead.

See for yourself, strap on your diapers, here we go.

What are the goals of the secret elite group, the inheritors of Illuminism (Moriah Conquering Wind), the Cult of Dionysius, the Cult of Isis, Catharism, Bogomilism? This elite group that also calls itself the OLYMPIANS (they truly believe they are equal in
power and stature to the legendary gods of Olympus, who have, like Lucifer their god, set themselves above our true God) absolutely believe they have been charged with implementing the following by divine right:


(1) A One World Government-New World Order with a unified church and monetary system under their direction. Not many people are aware that the One World Government began setting up its "church" in the 1920's/1930's, for they realized the need for a
religious belief inherent in mankind to have an outlet and, therefore, set up a "church" body to channel that belief in the direction they desired.



(2) The utter destruction of all national identity and national pride.


(3) The destruction of religion and more especially the Christian religion, with the one exception, their own creation mentioned above.


(4) Control of each and every person through means of mind control and what Brzezinski call "technotronics" which would create human-like robots and a system of terror beside which Felix Dzerzinski's Red Terror will look like children at play.


(5) An end to all industrialization and the production of nuclear generated electric power in what they call "the post-industrial zero-growth society." Exempted are the computer and service industries. United States industries that remain will be exported to countries
such as Mexico where abundant slave labor is available. Unemployables in the wake of industrial destruction will either become opium-heroin and or cocaine addicts, or become statistics in the elimination process we know today as Global 2000.


(6) Legalization of drugs and pornography.


(7) Depopulation of large cities according to the trial run carried out by the Pol Pot regime in Cambodia. It is interesting to note that Pol Pot's genocidal plans were drawn up here in the United States by one of the Club of Rome's research foundations. It is also
interesting that the Committee is presently seeking to reinstate the Pol Pot butchers in Cambodia.


(8) Suppression of all scientific development except for those deemed beneficial by the Committee. Especially targeted is nuclear energy for peaceful purposes. Particularly hated are the fusion experiments presently being scorned and ridiculed by the Committee
and its jackals of the press. Development of the fusion torch would blow the Committee's conception of "limited natural resources" right out of the window. A fusion torch properly used could create unlimited untappeed natural resources from the most ordinary
substances. Fusion torch uses are legion and would benefit mankind in a manner which is as yet not even remotely comprehended by the public.


(9) Cause by means of limited wars in the advanced countries, and by means of starvation and diseases in Third World countries, the death of 3 billion people by the year 2000, people they call "useless eaters." The Committee of 300 commissioned Cyrus Vance to
write a paper on this subject of how best to bring about such genocide. The paper was produced under the title the "Global 2000 Report" and was accepted and approved for action by President Carter, for and on behalf of the U.S. Government, and accepted by
Edwin Muskie, then Secretary of State. Under the terms of the Global 2000 Report, the population of the United States is to be reduced by 100 million by the year 2050.


(10)To weaken the moral fiber of the nation and to demoralize workers in the labor class by creating mass unemployment. As jobs dwindle due to the post industrial zero growth policies introduced by the Club of Rome, demoralized and discouraged workers will
resort to alcohol and drugs. The youth of the land will be encouraged by means of rock music and drugs to rebel against the status quo, thus undermining and eventually destroying the family unit. In this regard The Committee of 300 commissioned Tavistock
Institute to prepare a blueprint as to how this could be achieved. Tavistock directed Stanford Research to undertake the work under the direction of Professor Willis Harmon. This work later became known as "The Aquarian Conspiracy."


(11)To keep people everywhere from deciding their own destinies by means of one created crisis after another and then "managing" such crises. This will confuse and demoralize the population to the extent where faced with too many choices, apathy on a
massive scale will result. In the case of the United States, an agency for crisis management is already in place. It is called the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), whose existence I first disclosed in 1980. There will be more on FEMA as we
proceed.


(12)To introduce new cults and continue to boost those already functioning which includes rock "music" gangsters such as the filthy, degenerate Mick Jagger's "Rolling Stones" (a gangster group much favored by European Black Nobility) and all of the
Tavistock-created "rock" groups which began with "The Beatles." To continue to build up the cult of Christian fundamentalism begun by the British East India Company's servant, Darby, which will be misused to strengthen the Zionist state of Israel through
identifying with the Jews through the myth of "God's Chosen People" and by donating very substantial amounts of money to what they mistakenly believe is a religious cause in the furtherance of Christianity.


(13) For some reason this is missing from the document or the paragraphs got misnumbered, my guess is as good as yours.


14)To press for the spread of religious cults such as the Moslem Brotherhood, Moslem fundamentalism, the Sikhs, and to carry out experiments of the Jim Jones and "Son of Sam" type of murders. It is worth noting that the late Ayatollah Khomeini was a creation
of British Intelligence Military Intelligence Division 6, commonly known as M16, as I reported in my 1985 work, "What Really Happened In Iran.".


(15)To export "religious liberation" ideas around the world so as to undermine all existing religions but more especially the Christian religion. This began with "Jesuit Liberation Theology" which brought about the downfall of the Somoza family rule in
Nicaragua and which is today destroying EI Salvador, now 25 years into a "civil war," Costa Rica and Honduras. One very active entity engaged in so-called liberation theology is the Communist oriented Mary Knoll Mission. This accounts for the extensive media
attention to the murder of four of Mary Knoll's so-called nuns in EI Salvador a few years ago. The four nuns were Communist subversive agents and their activities were widely documented by the government of EI Salvador. The United States press and news media
refused to give any space or coverage to the mass of documentation in possession of the Salvadorian government, documentation which proves what the Mary Knoll Mission nuns were doing in the country. Mary Knoll is in service in many countries, and played a
leading role in bringing Communism to Rhodesia, Mozambique, Angola and South Africa.


(16)To cause a total collapse of the world's economies and engender total political chaos.


(17)To take control of all Foreign and domestic policies of the United States.


(18)To give the fullest support to supranational institutions such as the United Nations (UN), the International Monetary Fund (IMF), the Bank of International Settlements (BIS), the World Court and, as far as possible, make local institutions of lesser effect by
gradually phasing them out or bringing them under the mantle of the United Nations.


(19)Penetrate and subvert all governments, and work from within them to destroy the
sovereign integrity of nations represented by them.


(20)Organize a world-wide terrorist apparatus and negoti- ate with terrorists whenever terrorist activities take place. It will be recalled that it was Bettino Craxi who persuaded the Italian and U.S. governments to negotiate with the Red Brigades kidnapers of Prime Minister Moro and General Dozier. As an aside, General Dozier is under orders not to talk about what happened to him. Should he break that silence, he will no doubt be made "a horrible example of" in the manner in which Kissinger dealt with Aldo Moro, Ali Bhutto and Gen- eral Zia ul Haq.


(21)Take control of education in America with the intent and purpose of utterly and completely destroying it.

[Hervé]

[...]

That's pretty much the discourse the "controllers" are entertaining, whether illuminati, reptilians or any other sort of transdensity entities... friends of yours?

nope, no friends of mine but i can identify with the logic of cause and effect. the cause is the indifference and apathy of large parts of humanity and the effect is increased suffering.

[...]

You may not count the controllers as your friends but, to me, it sure appears like you commnunicate like one.

As for the "cause and effect," has it occurred to you that the "apathy" apparently exhibited by a large percentage of the population may have been intentionally created, fostered and nurtured that way?

I'll give you another possibility for the apparent apathy:


All right, time for a refresher:



Twilight Of The Psychopaths

by Dr. Kevin Barrett
Spanish version (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_ponerology09.htm)

[...]

Civilized people, we are told, live peacefully and cooperatively with their fellows, sharing the necessary labour in order to obtain the leisure to develop arts and sciences. And while that would be a good idea, it is not a good description of what has been going on in the so-called advanced cultures during the past 8,000 years.

Civilization, as we know it, is largely the creation of psychopaths. All civilizations, our own included, have been based on slavery and “warfare.” Incidentally, the latter term is a euphemism for mass murder.

The prevailing recipe for civilization is simple:
1. Use lies and brainwashing to create an army of controlled, systematic mass murderers
2. Use that army to enslave large numbers of people (i.e. seize control of their labour power and its fruits)
3. Use that slave labour power to improve the brainwashing process (by using the economic surplus to employ scribes, priests, and PR men). Then go back to step one and repeat the process.


Psychopaths have played a disproportionate role in the development of civilization, because they are hard-wired to lie, kill, injure, and generally inflict great suffering on other humans without feeling any remorse. The inventor of civilization — the first tribal chieftain who successfully brainwashed an army of controlled mass murderers—was almost certainly a genetic psychopath.

Since that momentous discovery, psychopaths have enjoyed a significant advantage over non-psychopaths in the struggle for power in civilizational hierarchies — especially military hierarchies.

Military institutions are tailor-made for psychopathic killers. The 5% or so of human males who feel no remorse about killing their fellow human beings make the best soldiers. And the 95% who are extremely reluctant to kill make terrible soldiers — unless they are brainwashed with highly sophisticated modern techniques that turn them (temporarily it is hoped) into functional psychopaths.

In On Killing (http://www.amazon.com/Killing-Psychological-Cost-Learning-Society/dp/0316330116/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208291611&sr=8-1), Lt. Col. Dave Grossman has re-written military history, to highlight what other histories hide: The fact that military science is less about strategy and technology, than about overcoming the instinctive human reluctance to kill members of our own species.

The true “Revolution in Military Affairs” was not Donald Rumsfeld’s move to high-tech in 2001, but Brigadier Gen. S.L.A. Marshall’s discovery in the 1940s that only 15-20% of World War II soldiers along the line of fire would use their weapons:

“Those (80-85%) who did not fire did not run or hide (in many cases they were willing to risk great danger to rescue comrades, get ammunition, or run messages), but they simply would not fire their weapons at the enemy, even when faced with repeated waves of banzai charges”
(Grossman, p. 4).

Marshall’s discovery and subsequent research, proved that in all previous wars, a tiny minority of soldiers — the 5% who are natural-born psychopaths, and perhaps a few temporarily-insane imitators—did almost all the killing.

Normal men just went through the motions and, if at all possible, refused to take the life of an enemy soldier, even if that meant giving up their own. The implication: Wars are ritualized mass murders by psychopaths of non-psychopaths. (This cannot be good for humanity’s genetic endowment!)

Marshall’s work, brought a Copernican revolution to military science. In the past, everyone believed that the soldier willing to kill for his country was the (heroic) norm, while one who refused to fight was a (cowardly) aberration. The truth, as it turned out, was that the normative soldier hailed from the psychopathic five percent.

The sane majority, would rather die than fight.

The implication, too frightening for even the likes of Marshall and Grossman to fully digest, was that the norms for soldiers’ behavior in battle had been set by psychopaths. That meant that psychopaths were in control of the military as an institution.

Worse, it meant that psychopaths were in control of society’s perception of military affairs. Evidently, psychopaths exercised an enormous amount of power in seemingly sane, normal society.

How could that be?

In Political Ponerology (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/polpon/politicalponerologyccr.htm), Andrzej Lobaczewski explains that clinical psychopaths enjoy advantages even in non-violent competitions to climb the ranks of social hierarchies. Because they can lie without remorse (and without the telltale physiological stress that is measured by lie detector tests) psychopaths can always say whatever is necessary to get what they want.

In court, for example, psychopaths can tell extreme bald-faced lies in a plausible manner, while their sane opponents are handicapped by an emotional predisposition to remain within hailing distance of the truth. Too often, the judge or jury imagines that the truth must be somewhere in the middle, and then issues decisions that benefit the psychopath. As with judges and juries, so too with those charged with decisions concerning who to promote and who not to promote in corporate, military and governmental hierarchies.

The result is that all hierarchies inevitably become top-heavy with psychopaths

[...]


Continue here: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...nerology08.htm


After all, if human bodies can host psychopathic parasites, why not other types of bodies?

Thinking of it, the above is also an answer to Finefeather.

[ulli]

This book was written in 1991, before the Internet was sent down from heaven,
helping to expose such plots.
This knowledge is now spreading fast and while creating an outcry as well as feelings of powerlessness, of apathy and doom and gloom, it is also going to help mankind wake up to the idea of what we DO want, and how to go about getting it.

In any given crowd of people some will step forward as pioneers,
willing to offer their lives and become martyrs for the cause of true liberation.
Thus we have had whistle blowers telling their story, spilling the beans, as it were,
and take the torch of that book further.

Those whistle blowers stepping out to be interviewed is also what this forum was initially based upon.
The fact that there has been a lull lately this does not mean that the game is up.
Some may see all the recent false testimony as a crisis,
but I want to remind readers here that crisis is necessary for triumph to occur.

[araucaria]

humanity is an experiment gone bad.

Thank you for this textbook illustration of a self-invalidating statement :)

[araucaria]

...

My response to this is given in my post #21. This stuff has been drilled into us to the point that the statement of the problem is becoming part of the problem.

Describing the powers of the powers that be has the nasty side-effect of enhancing those powers. Rather than being overcome, which means playing their game, they need to be made irrelevant, largely by ignoring them and engaging in something more compelling.

[ulli]

The privileges of the elite have helped them get a head start, and it appears now that there is no stopping them.
On the one hand we have the average family man or woman, working two to three jobs just to survive, living in isolation, while on the other hand there are people who have climbed the ladder of success where they can enjoy participating in group efforts to plot and outwit the little guy, or worse still, people who were raised inside bloodline consciousness where their rulership over others was indoctrinated into them from childhood, and all they have to do is use their vast wealth and status advantage to entrench themselves ever deeper in their power position, it is pretty clear to me that our apathy did not cause such a scenario. The blame has to lie entirely with those who effort at keeping such a system going and growing.
The miracle of change, however, cannot be ruled out. Magic wands are being distributed like never before.
The savior was the appearance of the Intenet, and which allowed people to connect hearts and minds, and inspire each other...even empower each other. And even though the elite may be assisted by invisible helpers who want to keep that top down hierarchy paradigm going, they don't stand a chance against the forces of goodness that are being rallied as Im writing this. The general process of evolution is not one of decay, but of refinement of civilization and culture.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

...

My response to this is given in my post #21. This stuff has been drilled into us to the point that the statement of the problem is becoming part of the problem.

Describing the powers of the powers that be has the nasty side-effect of enhancing those powers. Rather than being overcome, which means playing their game, they need to be made irrelevant, largely by ignoring them and engaging in something more compelling.

I completely agree with you.

However, knowingly standing in front of a speeding train
will get you killed just as much as unknowingly standing in front of it , knowing its comes , at least gives you the change to step aside a yard and a half, as a consequence you may live to love another day, even when 3 d reality is not as peachy as you may currently wish, living people have a better change of bringing about the chance we want to see then the dead ones.

[Lazlo]

All right, my turn to "beg to differ":

Webster's New World Dictionary af American English:

Forgery: 1) the act or legal offense of imitating or counterfeiting documents, signatures, work of arts, etc. to deceive 2) anything forged


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Forgery is the process of making, adapting, or imitating objects, statistics, or documents (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_documents) with the intent to deceive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deception)

You made my point precisely. "The process of making..."

"The act or legal offense of imitating or counterfeiting documents..."

And from the legal dictionary: http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/forgery

The creation of a false written document or alteration of a genuine one, with the intent to defraud.


This was exactly what I was referring to. You found proof of your point but a careful reading makes it clear that a forgery need not be based on an original document.

ETA: I spent several hours, just last week, dissecting Coleman's Committe of 300.

That thing is so full of inconsistencies, poor assumptions, Christian propaganda, and logical fallacies that it's not worth trying to lay them all out. If someone can't see that for themselves, there is no way that me or anyone else is going to make a difference.

It's far too easy to tell someone WHAT to think, and infinitely more difficult to teach them HOW to think.

This is the root cause of nearly every problem we face.

[araucaria]

...

My response to this is given in my post #21. This stuff has been drilled into us to the point that the statement of the problem is becoming part of the problem.

Describing the powers of the powers that be has the nasty side-effect of enhancing those powers. Rather than being overcome, which means playing their game, they need to be made irrelevant, largely by ignoring them and engaging in something more compelling.

I completely agree with you.

However, knowingly standing in front of a speeding train
will get you killed just as much as unknowingly standing in front of it , knowing its comes , at least gives you the change to step aside a yard and a half, as a consequence you may live to love another day, even when 3 d reality is not as peachy as you may currently wish, living people have a better change of bringing about the chance we want to see then the dead ones.

Sure, but your speeding train is just an analogy, and perhaps not as good an analogy as you might think. I would suggest that the very notion of 'stepping aside' is not, or no longer, an option. I have no idea what it might mean in practical terms. Also if you are standing on the line, the train has priority because you are trespassing in its space.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

...

My response to this is given in my post #21. This stuff has been drilled into us to the point that the statement of the problem is becoming part of the problem.

Describing the powers of the powers that be has the nasty side-effect of enhancing those powers. Rather than being overcome, which means playing their game, they need to be made irrelevant, largely by ignoring them and engaging in something more compelling.

I completely agree with you.

However, knowingly standing in front of a speeding train
will get you killed just as much as unknowingly standing in front of it , knowing its comes , at least gives you the change to step aside a yard and a half, as a consequence you may live to love another day, even when 3 d reality is not as peachy as you may currently wish, living people have a better change of bringing about the chance we want to see then the dead ones.

Sure, but your speeding train is just an analogy, and perhaps not as good an analogy as you might think. I would suggest that the very notion of 'stepping aside' is not, or no longer, an option. I have no idea what it might mean in practical terms. Also if you are standing on the line, the train has priority because you are trespassing in its space.

So we should just stand on the tracks of those who think they have a priority over us, thats an analogy too right?

I dont think ignoring what they are doing is the solution, they do not play by the rules they expect us to play by, so its a rigged game, i dont know what to do either, all i know is i invest in people every day the best way i can, i dont know any other way, i wish i did, i can only hope thats good enough as is.

[Earth Angel]

on a lighter note......

[Wind]

Well...

http://rt.com/news/maya-apocalypse-re-scheduled-616/

[araucaria]

Analogies are only any use up to a point. Maybe we're on the same train and want to get off, maybe we are saboteurs throwing the points to sidetrack of derail the trains - the point is that this is still playing trains - or mind games.

The real mind game is the collective mind game. Collective intention can stop wars, reduce violence and generally take us wherever we want to be. 'Love bombs', as someone described the process, are more than just protective devices. We engage in this kind of activity because it is what we want to be doing anyway. This is an already ongoing process that will eventually prevail.

It is not a rigged game. A standard ploy in any game is to get your opponent to play your game instead of their own game. A tennis player will lose against a big hitter playing him at his own game, but instead of trying to outhit him, he he can always outsmart him with his own greater variety and subtlety. We need to be smarter and that is what we are doing. :)

[Hervé]

[...]





Another one missing the pudding...

[MiguelQ]

SOrry, i havent read all the posts.
But my opinion, is the follow:

2012 might be a fail. But perhaps, it was to be like that anyway, and the maya calender never was the end of the world. People that are from mexico that i talked to etc.. know that the end of it meant nothing special. And its not k about the end of the days that everyone talked.
But maybe there will be a real scenario comming, but then because this failed, we will no longer believe. The illuminati or whatever big brother, might knew about this, and hoped to make people now lose their trust in some manhiainc predictions. And put be able now, to put something real in action. And because people wont be couting on it.. then it will work as they planned.

But anyway, if no ALIEN comes into earth, in the next decades, i think life is really boring. I cant really enjoy much, its always the same thing day by day. An Alien event would be so nice, and humans could then start to think thatn actually we are not alone, and have many things to learn. And travel space... (i miss that)... This life cycle, born to die, and so on, and losing the memory, and all the knowledge one got trough entire life, to be later lost, (makes no sense at all)..

[Hervé]

For those readers of PA who are not familiar with the English saying that I refer to when mentioning "pudding," here is the explanation and the way I am using it:

The common saying is: "The proof is in the pudding" which itself is derived from: "The proof of the pudding's in the eating" dating back to at least the 17th century.

In other words, there is a physical evidence of the end result from the use of a recipe guiding the mixing of chosen ingredients and the timing of their addition to the mix as well as how long to bake or cook the mix.

The final test being: does it taste as it is being boasted or advertised to be tasting to one's palate or taste buds?

Accordingly, when one is faced with a "pudding," the corollary, then, is that there is a recipe and staple ingredients to be mixed in a certain way at specific times.

The "pudding" of the "Protocols" and Albert Pike's "letter," as "recipes," is seen about everywhere on this planet by the state it's in.

Hence, keeping debating the details of whether they are hoaxes or forgeries or whatever is a time waster and a derailing of this thread.

[Grumpy Cat]

MiquelQ, it is possible that all of our individual efforts throughout history, in various incarnations, has led us to this potential global shift in thinking that is occuring now. Call it fate, destiny, whatever, but more and more people are becoming "aware", and I think that is primarily due to the internet and the freedom most of us have whilst using it. It's a remarkable thing when we think about it because distance has no meaning whilst on it, and I'm sure when we inhabit other planets too, science boffins will think of a way to allow us to Skype and troll forums across space. If it isn't already possible!

Imagine the possibilities of this. And I don't believe for one second that we are alone. Not with the size of this universe.


SOrry, i havent read all the posts.
But my opinion, is the follow:

2012 might be a fail. But perhaps, it was to be like that anyway, and the maya calender never was the end of the world. People that are from mexico that i talked to etc.. know that the end of it meant nothing special. And its not k about the end of the days that everyone talked.
But maybe there will be a real scenario comming, but then because this failed, we will no longer believe. The illuminati or whatever big brother, might knew about this, and hoped to make people now lose their trust in some manhiainc predictions. And put be able now, to put something real in action. And because people wont be couting on it.. then it will work as they planned.

But anyway, if no ALIEN comes into earth, in the next decades, i think life is really boring. I cant really enjoy much, its always the same thing day by day. An Alien event would be so nice, and humans could then start to think thatn actually we are not alone, and have many things to learn. And travel space... (i miss that)... This life cycle, born to die, and so on, and losing the memory, and all the knowledge one got trough entire life, to be later lost, (makes no sense at all)..

[Hervé]

[..]

But anyway, if no ALIEN comes into earth, in the next decades, i think life is really boring. I cant really enjoy much, its always the same thing day by day. An Alien event would be so nice, and humans could then start to think thatn actually we are not alone, and have many things to learn. And travel space... (i miss that)... This life cycle, born to die, and so on, and losing the memory, and all the knowledge one got trough entire life, to be later lost, (makes no sense at all)..

There is a big caveat to that:


[...]
David Icke calls it "Problem-Reaction-Solution" and Alex Collier refers to it as "The Orion Model" as transcribed below:

Orion model

One of Alex Collier's interviews by Robert Stanley who yanked those interviews off his website...


Alex Collier interview, 2011-10-27
http://kiwi6.com/file/f8s5019nne (http://kiwi6.com/file/f8s5019nne)


Welcome to a new episode of Unicus Radio, I am your host Robert Stanley we have a special guest, our friend Alex Collier.

“ …our ancient ancestors, the Sumerians, the Egyptians they all had full knowledge of our cousins. They often saw them in the air, they had some forms of interaction between them and humanity on a relatively frequent basis. The Mayans, the Aztecs also have the same stories of being with the gods and you know, agriculture, horticulture, manufacturing were all taught to our ancestors. It’s after, really, the sinking of Atlantis and then the last pole shift that occurred which was caused by the Anunaki where everything kind of went black, and then what we have basically, we have all these legends on this as we are taught but are in fact based on actual history. Now, as far as the freeing of the galaxy…

“I am gona tell you what I have been told.

“’For the most part, most of the galaxy is pretty civilized, ok. It’ really matured, it’s coming to its own. But there are some areas, mostly on the outskirts, where it’s still pretty [much] considered “jungle.” But that’s changing rapidly as well. Now, if you remember when I first started speaking, the Andromedans, Moreney and Faceyas, had said that tyranny showed up in our galaxy in the future and they had come back in time to find out what was going on and they had narrowed it down – not just the As but several groups or teams that were part of the Adromedan council -- had come back and had focused it to this particular area of our solar system.

“Now, we have some really bad elements here. They are not just here but in this kind of sector, this part of our galaxy. Some are in our solar system, obviously, and some are directly underneath us. But some are also inhabiting some of the other planets and moons in our solar system.

05:00
“Basically this was like a free zone. This was an area where nobody paid attention to. And it's because of that that this rogue element was drawn here because they felt like they could do whatever the hell they wanted to do. In essence you could say this was like a lure to them. This area that nobody gives a sh*t about, that’s where we go, that’s where we hide. Like pirates would do.

“So, they come here en masse, in numbers, not only physically but dimensionally. The dimensional part, doors were opened for them so they could actually come in and now basically what you have now is that you have this cesspool of just renegades who for the most part have all their own agendas. They may have different agendas, but none of those agendas are really about the betterment and welfare of the natives. It’s all about what can we get for ourselves. And humanity has mirrored this as well, you know, in our history.

“So, now, what we have is that the doors are closing. Behind this group, I know there are some basically saying it’s over, and that is absolutely so far from the truth. And I’ll give you an analogy of why that's so far from the truth. Now, it is clear that they are backing up and they are beginning to know that they are cornered. But it isn’t over because we are between them and the good guys. For the most part humanity is completely unaware of what’s really going on around themselves. Humanity is in a very precarious position.

“But I’ll just give you this analogy. You even hear it with some of these speakers saying, you know, a brand new financial system is coming in, and it’s gona be miraculous, it’s gona be absolutely wonderful; it’s gona replace the old system. Well, the old system was based on a fiat currency from, they only last about 80 years. So it’s coming to an end. It has reached its pinnacle of putting everybody in debt. So we have now a new financial system coming in. This is an Earth financial system. However it is being managed by other personages who are not solely human.

“At this point, there were only four countries that were not part of the Rotschild’s banking system. They were North Korea, Cuba, Libya and Iran. Well we know Libya is no longer a part of that. They're no longer free, they are now part of the Rothschild’s banking system. The next would be Iran and we are already hearing the ramblings about going to war with Iran and making them the bad guy. As far as North Korea and Cuba, I don’t think anybody gives a sh*t about those two countries.

“So, this should show everyone that what they’re hearing that it’s all over, it’s time to relax, you know, pick up your heels, open a six-pack, you know, it’s way premature, way premature.


25:30
“Most people in government don’t really understand the real element of control here and that it’s extraterrestrial. They are aware of the human element. Those that have awareness of it, made a choice to succumb to this evil. I am sure that they were probably threatened and that their families were threatened, etc. Because we have inherited this problem. Those alive today inherited this problem. But this is the Orion Model.

“This is what the Orions, both the human aspect of what’s the Anunaki are a part of and the Reptilian lineages used to do, hundreds and hundreds of millions of years ago when the colonization of galaxies was in its beginning and its infancy. I don’t even know how many years ago that was.

“But this is the Orion Model: they would come in with different gods, they would separate the humanity of that planet. They would change their language. They would teach them a faith or a religion to separate them even more. Then they would use them to fight one another to build animosity and distrust.

“That alone changes the entire harmonic of not only the race but the planet. They think holographically, they know this stuff. They know what it does, ok, because they have all this knowledge.

“So, when you have planetary race and a planet vibrating at a low frequency, it is like a nesting zone for these guys. And when that’s done, what they then do is they corrupt, they create a priesthood to be the intermediaries between humanity and them because the more hidden they are, especially if they are regressive, the more stealth they are, the easier it is for them to manipulate.

“So, they use their human priesthoods, or their priesthoods – I am assuming all the races are human; they are not -- to basically implement the strategy and the plan.

“Once they have absolute control of a planet and the humanity on it and all the resources, just before they expose themselves, come forward and introduce themselves as gods, what they do is they eliminate all the people that helped them. All, the priesthoods, all the intermediaries, all the middle management, they eliminate all of them so there is no one left to tell the story. And they erase history. Then the humanity on that particular planet is floundering around wondering “Who the hell are we?” “what’s true, what isn’t true? “How do you explain this?” “That religion says that.” It creates all this confusion and no one is on the same page and that’s exactly how they managed to control these planets.

““Ordo ab chao”

“You cannot enslave a planet that is well educated and you have a humanity that knows who it is on high spiritual principles. You cannot enslave a race like that.”

[apokalypse]

2012 Predictions and Prophercies to happen on certain date have been Busted. Events to be happen over time from that date? still unknown.

i'm really hope and wish one thing come true is rise of consciousness....Humans need a kick in the arse or a slap in the face to wake them up see the truth of the reality and taking responsibility.

i do believe there's must be something happen in the past and something goes wrong, back in ancient times they was advance and now modern human are so primitives. Since when we have Money system in place? i think back in Atlantis/Mayan days never have Money System since they was communicate with various benevolent beings...

[Lazlo]

The "pudding" of the "Protocols" and Albert Pike's "letter," as "recipes," is seen about everywhere on this planet by the state it's in.

Hence, keeping debating the details of whether they are hoaxes or forgeries or whatever is a time waster and a derailing of this thread.


Last round of fencing from me and I'll let it go.

Forged documents, or whatever you want to call them, are not proof of causation, or even correlation.

Seeing the state of affairs and trying to ascribe meaning to those observations is as natural to the human condition as explaining thunder and lightning as the work of the gods, but it doesn't make it true.

I have read thousands of pages of the so called "best" of the documentary proofs of the NWO and their agenda over the last several years. I read these with the same critical eye that I use when reviewing a contract. Most, I repeat MOST, of them are the work of sloppy and weak minds. I have no doubt that the powerful use their influence to steer the course of human events. The prrof most certainly is in the pudding. But I firmly belive that the root of it is far more mundane, and therefore more frightening, than Coleman or Pike or most others would have you believe.

Greed
Fear
Power
Naked Ambition

These are all too real and far more likely to impact your life than some bogeyman conjured out of the overactive imagination of a paranoid man with a typewriter.

[Hervé]

[...]

... I have no doubt that the powerful use their influence to steer the course of human events. The proof most certainly is in the pudding. But I firmly believe that the root of it is far more mundane, and therefore more frightening, than Coleman or Pike or most others would have you believe.

Greed
Fear
Power
Naked Ambition

These are all too real and far more likely to impact your life than some bogeyman conjured out of the overactive imagination of a paranoid man with a typewriter.

I agree with the last part althought there is another important factor that's missing: Blackmail whether fabricated or making use of someone's steps off of morality.

As for the "pudding," someone sure has taken the guidelines very seriously and implemented them; particularly to the financial sector. For the "letter," well, what's happened/happening to/with Iraq, Afghanistan, Tunisia, Egypt, Lybia, Yemen and now Syria? Refugees all over the place?

In the words of Mcnamara as reported by Dr. John Coleman:


For those inclined to think that conflicts, social engineering and ensuing steering of a population in a definite direction is a joke, please, read this:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png Robert McNamara was one of those who said that, because peace and good order was being threatened by an out-of-control population, the wealth of the nation had to be moved away from the undisciplined masses and into the control of the self-disciplined few.

McNamara savagely attacked overpopulation, which he said threatened to change the world in which we live and make it ungovernable:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png We can begin with the most critical problems of population growth. As I have pointed out elsewhere, short of nuclear war itself, it is the gravest issue that the world faces in the decades ahead. If current trends continue, the world as a whole will not reach replacement level fertility - in effect an average of two children per family - until about the year 2020. That means that the world's population would finally stabilize at about 10 billion, compared with today's 4.3 billion.

"We call it stabilized, but what kind of stability would be possible? Can we assume that the levels of poverty, hunger, stress, crowding and frustration that such a situation could cause in the developing nations which by then would contain 9 out of 10 human beings on earth would be likely to assure social stability? Or, for that matter, military stability?

"It is not a world that any of us would want to live in. Is such a world inevitable? It is not but there are only two possible ways in which a world of 10 billion people can be averted. Either the current birthrate must come down more quickly, or the current death rates must go up. There is no other way.

"There are, of course, many ways in which the death rates can go up (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_depopu.htm). In a thermonuclear age, war can accomplish it very quickly and decisively. Famine and disease are nature's ancient checks on population growth, and neither one has disappeared from the scene.http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png

In 1979 McNamara repeated his message to the leading bankers from around the world, and Thomas Enders, a high-ranking State Department official, made the following statement:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png There is a single theme behind all of our work. We must reduce population growth. Either they do it our way, through nice, clean methods, or they will get the kind of a mess that we have in El Salvador, or Iran, or Beirut. Once population growth is out of control, it requires authoritarian government, even fascism, to reduce it. Civil war can help things, but it would have to be greatly expanded. To reduce population quickly, you have to pull all males into the fighting and kill significant numbers of fertile, child-bearing-age females."

The solution to the problem of a world in which the elite would not want to live is mass genocide. The Club of Rome (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_clubrome.htm) was ordered to produce a blueprint that would wipe out 500 million of excess population. The plan was called Global 2000 (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_depopu.htm#Global_2000_Program), and it was activated by spreading the AIDS virus throughout Africa and Brazil. Global 2000 was officially accepted as U.S. policy by President James Carter.

The conference members agreed that the, "low-class element of society must be brought under total control, trained and assigned to duties at an early age, which can be accomplished by the quality of education, which must be the poorest of the poor. The lower-classes must be trained to accept their position, long before they have an opportunity to query it."

"Technically, children must be 'orphaned' in day care centers under government control. With such an initial handicap, the lower-classes will have little hope of upward mobility away from their assigned positions in life. The form of slavery we have in mind is essential for good social order, peace and tranquility.

"We have the resources to attack the vitality, options and mobility of the individuals in society by knowing through our social scientist, understanding and manipulating and attacking their sources of social energy (income), and therefore, their physical, mental and emotional strengths and weaknesses. The general public refuses to improve its own mentality. It has become a herd of proliferating barbarians, and a blight on the face of the earth.

"By measuring the economic habits by which the sheep try to run from their problems and escape from reality via the medium of 'entertainment', it is absolutely possible, applying Operation Research methods, to predict the probable combination shocks (created events) which are necessary to bring about complete control and subjugation of the population by subverting the economy. The strategy includes the use of amplifiers (advertising), and when we speak on television in the manner that a ten year old can relate to, then because of the suggestions made, that person will purchase that production impulse, the next time he comes across it in a store.

"The balance of power will provide the stability that the world of the 21st century is likely to achieve, rent as it will be, by passionate tribalism and by such seemingly insoluble issues like that posed by mass migration from the South to the North, and from farm to city. There may be mass transfers of population, such as those between Greece and Turkey in the aftermath of the First World War; really mass murders. It will be a time of troubles, in need of a unifier; an Alexander or Mohammed.

"A great change that will come about as a result of emerging conflicts between peoples who live side by side — and which will, by their intensity, take primacy over their other conflicts — is that political rivalry will be within regions, rather than between them. This will bring about a turning back from global politics. After a decade in which the U.S. and the Soviet Union dueled across oceans, the powers will focus on protecting themselves against forces on their frontiers — or within them.

"The American people do not know economic science and care little about it, hence, they are always ripe for war. They cannot avoid war, notwithstanding their religious morality, nor can they find in religion the solution to their earthly problems. They are knocked out of shape by economic experts who cause Shockwaves that wreck budgets and buying habits. The American public is yet to realize that we control their buying habits.http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png
There we have it. Split up nations into tribal factions, keep the populace struggling to make a living and concerned with regional conflicts so that they will never have an opportunity to get a clear view of what is going on, let alone challenge it, and at the same time, bring about a drastic lowering of the world's population. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png


Excerpt from Dr. John Coleman's "Diplomacy By Deception (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/diplomacy_deception/diplomacy_deception.htm) -- 6) Tavistock and 'Operation Research'"

[778 neighbour of some guy]

How do i copy a PDF file into a post?

I tried to paste one after clicking the PDF button, but there seems to be a trick to this one.

Anyone?

Thanx

I want to share some pudding, wether this is actual pudding i dont know, but it does taste like it, its 48 pages of interesting pudding and there are some images in it, so posting the whole file will be required to understand the complete document.

[Hervé]

How do i copy a PDF file into a post?

I tried to paste one after clicking the PDF button, but there seems to be a trick to this one.

Anyone?

Thanx

I want to share some pudding, wether this is actual pudding i dont know, but it does taste like it, its 48 pages of interesting pudding and there are some images in it, so posting the whole file will be required to understand the complete document.

Well, I'd like to put a fork in that pudding... :)

Anyway, if you can't post the PDF, could you at least post the link to the PDF as an edit to your above post? Or give the gist of where to find it?

[778 neighbour of some guy]

How do i copy a PDF file into a post?

I tried to paste one after clicking the PDF button, but there seems to be a trick to this one.

Anyone?

Thanx

I want to share some pudding, wether this is actual pudding i dont know, but it does taste like it, its 48 pages of interesting pudding and there are some images in it, so posting the whole file will be required to understand the complete document.

Well, I'd like to put a fork in that pudding... :)

Anyway, if you can't post the PDF, could you at least post the link to the PDF as an edit to your above post? Or give the gist of where to find it?

I am a digibetic, but i will bump the e books thread so you can find it yourself its a post made by Bill, the one where he shared his ebooks with us, go to books/vids, articles, threads name is

"Interesting Free ebooks in PDF" Posted by Hurrit Enyeto.

Page nr 6, post nr 101, ( large zip file posted by Bill)

PDF document "Quit weapons for silent wars"

A good read!!!!

Please post link if you know how to.

Thank you.

Ed

[Hervé]

"Silent weapons for quiet wars"

For a text version of "Silent Weapons For Quiet Wars":
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_cooper2.htm (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_cooper2.htm)


For downloading the PDF version:
http://www.coalitionoftheobvious.com/SILENT_20WEAPONS_20for_20QUIET_20WARS.pdf

http://www.coalitionoftheobvious.com/SILENT_20WEAPONS_20for_20QUIET_20WARS.pdf

Now...

Here is a (long) letter from the author of that manual:


Silent weapons for quiet wars


Letter, mailed from a federal prison, from one Hartford Van Dyke (http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/vandykeletters.html)
to ParanoiaMagazine (http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/) Website



Dear Paranoia,

I will begin my response to your December 8, 2003 letter with comments about your article, and then give a biographical account.

I thoroughly enjoyed the opening statements in your magazine article about Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars (SWFQW). It had a Sherlock Holmes flavor to it. An analysis of your article would be an interesting way to start this response, therefore so be it.

Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars did not have a "preface," so it did not make what would have been a "bizarre claim" to have been "found in a surplus IBM copy machine in 1986 by a Boeing Aircraft employee…" That claim about the SWFQW book being found in the copy machine was made in an 8-1/2 by 11 inch news release/advertisement published in November 1986 by the America’s Promise Newsletter (APN) of Phoenix, Arizona, and in their publication of SWFQW, of which you have either a copy or some derivative writing.

If you have a copy of the original APN news release/advertisement, then you would know that William Cooper’s 1991 publication was not the first SWFQW publishing event. The original America’s Promise Newsletter of November 1986 stated that the said copy machine was purchased at auction from the McChord Air Force Base (located near Fort Lewis) in Washington State.

SWFQW is an "elite blueprint." There is nothing "dubious" about it. The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_zion.htm) was not used as a reference source for SWFQW. In the end of your first paragraph, you home-in on the technical essence of the SWFQW book, similar to the APN November 1986 news release/advertisement.

SWFQW is not a "paranoid manifesto;" it is a politically biased technical instruction manual on how to justify, and how to selectively survive, human animal husbandry before the need for animal husbandry becomes unstably critical.
(Note: Historical Introduction - SWFQW, page five, states that a "system was necessary which could race ahead of society and predict when society would arrive for capitulation."

Cooper might have read SWFQW in a "Naval Intelligence Majority Twelve File." Delamar Duverus of the American Sunbeam made a similar claim. And families of the upper class and their organizations did make contributions to the Leontief economics project, (e.g., Rockefeller (1948) - SWFQW, page 5).

You state that you have had an undated SWFQW pamphlet in your collection since approximately 1993. Yet your article quotes the end of the SWFQW section entitled Welcome Aboard (SWFQW page 4), as May 1979.

Also #74-1120 is an anagram of the date of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, 41-12-07.The forerunner of SWFQW, complete with sources, equations, my signature, and my address, was published on or about 74-12-07. My book on the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor was published at the end of August 1973.

Your analysis of Cooper’s capacity to understand economics and present economic arguments is an interesting piece of detective work. It is important to note that the references to the "patriot movement," to "patriot leanings," or to the "Illuminati" blueprint have absolutely no significance in reference to SWFQW as a scientific textbook of mathematical and economic warfare. Every past method of human conquest by mere physical warfare has been made obsolete by the Silent Weapons technology, except for the mechanics of implementing the use of the Silent Weapons technology.

Once it becomes recognized that every problem, especially every mathematical problem, contains its own sufficient solution, it also becomes clear that "an error uncovered is two-thirds destroyed," and the remaining one-third is destroyed by division of the house from within. Therefore, SWFQW states the problem and the solution, which gives it an "ambiguous" character. It is not a "hoax" any more than any other presentation of a scientific process could be deemed a hoax merely because it was not presented with the endorsement of its original discoverer. SWFQW has many authors.

War is "sociopathic" from the viewpoint of the prey. If the predator is victorious, then the war "is" and "beneficial" and "self-nobling" as the predator chooses to politically justify it.

Authorship
In 1979 it was necessary for me to take a low profile with respect to the government because I still had much work to do. I have completed that work and it is all published and released into the public domain. It has made the government angry enough to imprison me.

I am now returning to your letter, and the subject of authorship of SWFQW. In the first place, you request evidence that I am the author of SWFQW. You need to understand that my objective is to inform you about the SWFQW subject matter and its origins for the purpose of educating you and whomever you choose to share this information with. You are free to print whatever I send to you. You do not have to pay me for anything or ask my permission. I am a public servant, and have been since 1967.

One of the people who helped me do the final publication work on SWFQW became concerned about the book becoming disinformation and asked me to reveal my authorship of the work in 1996, which I did by announcing it on a radio talk show. Otherwise, it would still be an anonymous work.

In 1979, it was necessary for me to take a low profile position with respect to the government because I still had much work to do. I have completed that work and it is all published and released into the public domain and may be reproduced for a profit. It has made the operations of the government angry enough to imprison me. Even then it took them five and one-half years to put me into prison, which was done by accusing me of being a party to someone else’s insufficient doing and wrongdoing. I obey the law strictly. I was imprisoned for enforcing the law.

I will tell you my sources for SWFQW so that you can expand your knowledge of the subject and inform your readers if you so choose. I am providing you with a sufficient sample of my material so that you can have the language structure compared with SWFQW.

Introduction - Works


My given name is Lyle Hartford Van Dyke, Jr. My father went by the name Lyle Van Dyke. I have gone by the name Hartford Van Dyke all of my life, with only legal exceptions. Because of the similarity of our names, some of the information about us has gotten mixed together on the internet by other people, some of it deliberately, and then misused in court. Several of my writings are available on the internet, including the following:

The Skeleton in Uncle Sam’s Closet (1973) Subject: The Attack on Pearl Harbor, December 7, 1941
Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars (1979)
My Commercial Law Manual (1993 - Present).
How to Create Currencies for Local Communities (2001-2002)
The Skeleton in Uncle Sam’s Closet


Roosevelt had Knox, Forrestal, and Powell put under military guard and held at gunpoint until after the Pearl Harbor attack for which there had been 66 hours forewarning.

I was born June 4, 1940, at Honolulu, Hawaii. My father’s uncle, Gerald Mason Van Dyke (Mason), in G-2 intelligence, sent the warning message about the impending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, Thursday afternoon, 2 PM, December 4, 1941, from Honolulu, Hawaii. The message was received by Rear Admiral Paulus Prince Powell in Washington, D. C. Powell relayed the message to Knox and Forrestal, who then wanted to get the ships (U.S. fleet) out of Pearl Harbor and put a defense perimeter around the Hawaiian Islands. Knox told Stimson. Stimson told Roosevelt.

Roosevelt had Knox, Forrestal, and Powell put under military guard and held at gunpoint until after the Pearl Harbor attack (for which there had been 66 hours forewarning). The detailed story is contained in my book The Skeleton in Uncle Sam’s Closet. I sent a quality paperback copy of this book to each of the 435 U.S. representatives, and to each of the 100 U.S. senators, in Washington, D. C.

My next book was the forerunner of Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars. It was titled Warning - Surprise Attack Imminent! It was published in the period of November 30 to December 7, 1941. A copy was sent to every U. S. Representative and Senator at that time. It contained the I-O (input-output) shock test equations that appeared later in SWFQW, but it did not have the electronic diagrams at the time. The original publication was 8-1/2 x 14 at 5 pages in length. It did give the source information, and I did sign the work, and provide a reply address.

Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars
SWFQW starts out as a logical sociopathic work and ends as an emotional sociopathic work. Being about ongoing war, the subject matter never ceases to be sociopathic, and neither does out nation’s current system of foreign or domestic political behavior.

Four years later, in 1978, I was able to obtain enough funding to research, compile, write, and publish the book SWFQW. The SWFQW project ran from about October 1978 to December 1979, approximately one year’s work. The subject is war, so the book is about the sociopathic attitude of those who promote war, and have contempt for the common man. The basic premise of the book is contained under the subheading ENERGY (page 7).

ENERGY
"…a nation or world of people who will not use their intelligence are no better than animals who do not have intelligence. Such a people are beasts of burden and steaks on the table by choice and consent."
The last paragraph of the book is an echo of this premise under the heading FACTOR VI - CATTLE (page 56 SWFQW)
"Those who will not use their brains are no better off than those who have no brains, and so this mindless school of jellyfish, father, mother, son, and daughter, become useful beasts of burden or trainers of the same."
It has been said that the fundamental principle of hypnosis is "in the battle between logic and imagination, imagination always wins." Imagination is often closely connected with emotion. SWFQW starts out as a very logical sociopathic work and ends as an emotional sociopathic work. But being about war, and especially an ongoing war, the subject matter never ceases to be sociopathic, and neither does out nation’s current system of foreign or domestic political behavior. The book SWFQW is like a gold mining operation. With the gold at one end of the process, and the tailings (refuse or dross) at the other end of the process.

SWFQW is a collage, an overlay and paste-up of the works and words of many authors. I was the author only in the sense that I compiled and linked the gems of other writers. The book is not a hoax. Wassily W. Leontief proved the content of SWFQW by his article in the September 1980 issue of Scientific American, entitled "the world Economy in the Year 2000." Leontief was the father of the Silent Weapons System, and was awarded the 1973 Nobel Prize in Economics long after his creation (1948) became recognized by the elite to be a weapon (1965).

Years passing do not change the invariant truths of science, not even of economic science. The elite were never fully named in SWFQW. It was not necessary to name them specifically. They are always among us, and they always will be among us.

SWFQW was a study in human nature; of motivation, psychological impulse and momentum, and force of habit; of control of social energy by influence, suggestion, and hypnosis; of the use of sociopathic processes to induce paranoid behavior; and so on. That is enough description of the theme and conceptual content of SWFQW. We now move on to a presentation of information sources.



A Partial List of Sources

The cover design of SWFQW was taken from a military training manual because many of the sources are military or military oriented think-tank-like sources.
"Operation Research" was suggested by A Report from Iron Mountain On the possibility and desirability of peace by Leonard C. Levin (c1967), hereafter referred to as The Report. The Report was the basis of the section subtitled "Security" on page 3 of SWFQW.
On page 4 of SWFQW, 74-1120" is my signature as author of The Skeleton in Uncle Sam’s Closet, an anagram of 41-12-07, the date of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.
On page 5 of SWFQW we have samples from Operation Research by Hamdy M. Taha.
Page 5, ¶ 3 has a phrase from Studies in the Structure of the American Economy by Wassily Leontief (1953).
Page 5, ¶ 4 - Encyclopedia
Page 5, ¶ 5 - The Report
Page 5, ¶ 6 - Many Sources
Page 5, ¶ 8 - Studies in the Structure…
Page 6, ¶ 1 - Studies in the Structure…
Page 6, ¶ 3 - Scientific Sources - Maser Research
Page 6, ¶ 6 - Reference to The Report
Page 7, - The Report and Studies in the Structure, etc.
Page 8, - Many sources besides systems logic and systems analogs
Page 8, 9, - Descriptive Introduction of the Silent Weapon - The Psychotic use of a sociopathic weapon to induce paranoia, achieved by economic subversion of the means of survival, which also works to brainwash individuals.
Economic Theory Applications: Shock Testing
A very telling phrase exists in the preface to Studies in the Structure of the American Economy by Wassily Leontief. It is a long dangling sentence, giving a series of objectives of the Harvard Economic Research Project of 1948, and it passes to the future use with something like "and the forces which make for changes in the structure of the economy.

It is the way in which it is stated that reveals the ulterior purposes of the Project. When this phrase is understood in relation to the phrases presented before and after it, it suggests a group of interrelated mathematical relationships and equations, which when integrated yield the actual expression of the cause and effect factors. It is this relationship to which Earl Ubell referred, and which caused the USAF to withdraw its funding from Leontief’s project during the Eisenhower Administration.

Let us now move from references to surrounding events. Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars contains a timeless, eternal message to human civilization to be eternally vigilant, to be well informed, to accept responsibility for the conditions of the world, to be sovereign, to appreciate the inner workings and thinking of Nature and Nature’s God, to listen for that "still small voice," and to know that "Divine Mind always has met and always will meet every human need." (M.B.E.)

How SWFQW came to be
In about October 1967, I asked my father about a vague memory of something I had heard him say about an aircraft being shot down in our neighborhood in Honolulu. As he told me about the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, he broke down in grief. I don’t recall ever seeing my father cry before that incident. I was shocked.

My father needed some kind of release from the mental burden he was carrying. I told him that I wanted to publish something about the Pearl Harbor attack with respect to what he had just told me. But he asked me to not publish anything about it because his uncle, Mason Van Dyke, was still getting a pension and medical benefits and the release of the information to the public might jeopardize Mason’s benefits. My father had promised Mason he would not publish anything about the Pearl Harbor incident until Mason had died.

I obeyed my father for two years, but when the Mi Lai massacre in Vietnam occurred, and our government officials began lying about what happened, I decided to publish the Pearl Harbor story, to expose and end at least some of the lying and the damage that lying causes. I immediately put a writing together about the Pearl Harbor attack and sent it to the US House of Representatives and the US Senate (535 copies). Then I wondered how accurate it was and if I could get the story again. I connected a tape recorder to the telephone line and called my father after providing to him a copy of what I had sent to the Congress, House and Senate. I asked my father to criticize my work, which he did. As a result of that conversation I got a tape recording for posterity about the real history of the Pearl Harbor attack.

I then sent a corrected printed copy of the story to Congress, House and Senate, another 535 copies. I attempted to confirm my father’s story by calling people he had mentioned. After recording those conversations, I made copies of my father’s conversation and sent them through the mail.

In late October 1972, I met a man who gave me a copy of the book None Dare Call It Conspiracy, by Gary Allen. The book inspired me to write my own book about Pearl Harbor entitled The Skeleton in Uncle Sam’s Closet, published in August, 1973. I sent a copy of the book to each US Representative and Senator, including Senator Daniel K. Inouye of Hawaii. During the last phases of the book’s production, I began reading a book called Report from Iron Mountain (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_ironmountain.htm) (on the possibility and desirability of peace) by Leonard C. Lewin (1967). I got about half way through that book before other things got more demanding and I laid the Report aside.

I set up a school in downtown Vancouver, WA, for high school students called the Technical Training Club, in late September or early October of 1973, and by spring of 1974 it was moved to a house at 8105 NE St. Johns Blvd., where I then lived and taught.

In the winter of 1974, I was going through some math books while researching a math problem (I think a problem on cubic equations), when I referred to my old college textbook College Algebra, by Lyman M. Kells of the US Naval Academy (1956 or 1958). I came across the footnote in that book and noticed that they exactly corresponded to the ideas in Report from Iron Mountain. I had discovered the mathematical methodology of the Silent Weapons System, and I had the key to finding more information on the subject. I located Studies in the Structure of the American Economy at the Multnomah County library in Portland, Oregon.

The Rockefeller Foundation had financed Wassily Leontief’s Harvard Economic Project with a grant of $100,000 (in 1948), and Nelson Rockefeller was trying to become vice president of the United States. So I again sent a warning message to every member of Congress and Senate trying to warn them of the Rockefeller’s ulterior motives. This writing was titled, Warning, Surprise Attack Imminent!. It was sent on or about December 7, 1974.

I did not know at that time that American Biography of 1967 under the subject "Leontief, Wassily (W.)" had already carried an article about this ulterior motive. The USAF had financed Leontief’s Harvard economics project beginning in 1949, but quit the financing "during the Eisenhower administration because, according to Earl Ubell in the New York Herald Tribune (May 9, 1965), some officials felt that the technique smacked too much of a planned economy." The Silent Weapons System is the central control system of the New World Order (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_nwo.htm).

Publication of Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars
The work on SWFQW began about October 1978 and was published in December 1979. Initially, about 65 copies of the book were sent out to various people and organizations. I do not know what happened to most of the copies, but I can fairly well account for one of them, which was given out by hand in early 1980. It was given to a military person, who was late for duty (or was going to be late), at McChord AFB in the state of Washington. He was hitchhiking through Vancouver on I-5 in uniform. Even though I was traveling in my own locality, I drove him to McChord (a two hour trip each way). On the way, I told him about the book SWFQW, and when he stepped out of the car to go onto the base I handed him a copy. I did not make any further general effort to publicize SWFQW until after 1986. I did give out copies to local friends between 1979 and 1986.

About America’s Promise Newsletter
In November 1986, the America’s Promise Newsletter (APN) ran an advertisement for SWFQW. It claimed that "a Boeing Aircraft employee bought a surplus copy machine at auction from McChord AFB and inside it he found a copy of SWFQW."
It was very probably the copy that I gave to the hitchhiker. The Boeing employee passed the book along to the APN of Phoenix, AZ. From that time on SWFQW got the attention it deserved. It was a wake-up call to America, and perhaps even the world, if we can believe Leontief’s Scientific American (Sept. 1980) article, "The World Economy in the Year 2000", wherein he says that by the year 1973, the year he received the Nobel Prize in Economics, sixty nations were already using his system to analyze their economies.

I am very grateful to William Cooper and APN for giving Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars to the world.

Hartford Van Dyke
December 17, 2003


PS: I already gulped down that one a while back and with some search found that letter from the author of that manual. Reading that letter, the author indeed demonstrates he is the author of said manual.

[Bill Ryan]

"Silent weapons for quiet wars"

For a text version of "Silent Weapons For Quiet Wars":
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_cooper2.htm (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_cooper2.htm)


For downloading the PDF version:
http://www.coalitionoftheobvious.com/SILENT_20WEAPONS_20for_20QUIET_20WARS.pdf

http://www.coalitionoftheobvious.com/SILENT_20WEAPONS_20for_20QUIET_20WARS.pdf

Now...

Here is a (long) letter from the author of that manual:


Silent weapons for quiet wars


Letter, mailed from a federal prison, from one Hartford Van Dyke (http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/vandykeletters.html)
to ParanoiaMagazine (http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/) Website



Dear Paranoia,

I will begin my response to your December 8, 2003 letter with comments about your article, and then give a biographical account.

I thoroughly enjoyed the opening statements in your magazine article about Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars (SWFQW). It had a Sherlock Holmes flavor to it. An analysis of your article would be an interesting way to start this response, therefore so be it.

Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars did not have a "preface," so it did not make what would have been a "bizarre claim" to have been "found in a surplus IBM copy machine in 1986 by a Boeing Aircraft employee…" That claim about the SWFQW book being found in the copy machine was made in an 8-1/2 by 11 inch news release/advertisement published in November 1986 by the America’s Promise Newsletter (APN) of Phoenix, Arizona, and in their publication of SWFQW, of which you have either a copy or some derivative writing.

If you have a copy of the original APN news release/advertisement, then you would know that William Cooper’s 1991 publication was not the first SWFQW publishing event. The original America’s Promise Newsletter of November 1986 stated that the said copy machine was purchased at auction from the McChord Air Force Base (located near Fort Lewis) in Washington State.

SWFQW is an "elite blueprint." There is nothing "dubious" about it. The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_zion.htm) was not used as a reference source for SWFQW. In the end of your first paragraph, you home-in on the technical essence of the SWFQW book, similar to the APN November 1986 news release/advertisement.

SWFQW is not a "paranoid manifesto;" it is a politically biased technical instruction manual on how to justify, and how to selectively survive, human animal husbandry before the need for animal husbandry becomes unstably critical.
(Note: Historical Introduction - SWFQW, page five, states that a "system was necessary which could race ahead of society and predict when society would arrive for capitulation."

Cooper might have read SWFQW in a "Naval Intelligence Majority Twelve File." Delamar Duverus of the American Sunbeam made a similar claim. And families of the upper class and their organizations did make contributions to the Leontief economics project, (e.g., Rockefeller (1948) - SWFQW, page 5).

You state that you have had an undated SWFQW pamphlet in your collection since approximately 1993. Yet your article quotes the end of the SWFQW section entitled Welcome Aboard (SWFQW page 4), as May 1979.

Also #74-1120 is an anagram of the date of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, 41-12-07.The forerunner of SWFQW, complete with sources, equations, my signature, and my address, was published on or about 74-12-07. My book on the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor was published at the end of August 1973.

Your analysis of Cooper’s capacity to understand economics and present economic arguments is an interesting piece of detective work. It is important to note that the references to the "patriot movement," to "patriot leanings," or to the "Illuminati" blueprint have absolutely no significance in reference to SWFQW as a scientific textbook of mathematical and economic warfare. Every past method of human conquest by mere physical warfare has been made obsolete by the Silent Weapons technology, except for the mechanics of implementing the use of the Silent Weapons technology.

Once it becomes recognized that every problem, especially every mathematical problem, contains its own sufficient solution, it also becomes clear that "an error uncovered is two-thirds destroyed," and the remaining one-third is destroyed by division of the house from within. Therefore, SWFQW states the problem and the solution, which gives it an "ambiguous" character. It is not a "hoax" any more than any other presentation of a scientific process could be deemed a hoax merely because it was not presented with the endorsement of its original discoverer. SWFQW has many authors.

War is "sociopathic" from the viewpoint of the prey. If the predator is victorious, then the war "is" and "beneficial" and "self-nobling" as the predator chooses to politically justify it.

Authorship
In 1979 it was necessary for me to take a low profile with respect to the government because I still had much work to do. I have completed that work and it is all published and released into the public domain. It has made the government angry enough to imprison me.

I am now returning to your letter, and the subject of authorship of SWFQW. In the first place, you request evidence that I am the author of SWFQW. You need to understand that my objective is to inform you about the SWFQW subject matter and its origins for the purpose of educating you and whomever you choose to share this information with. You are free to print whatever I send to you. You do not have to pay me for anything or ask my permission. I am a public servant, and have been since 1967.

One of the people who helped me do the final publication work on SWFQW became concerned about the book becoming disinformation and asked me to reveal my authorship of the work in 1996, which I did by announcing it on a radio talk show. Otherwise, it would still be an anonymous work.

In 1979, it was necessary for me to take a low profile position with respect to the government because I still had much work to do. I have completed that work and it is all published and released into the public domain and may be reproduced for a profit. It has made the operations of the government angry enough to imprison me. Even then it took them five and one-half years to put me into prison, which was done by accusing me of being a party to someone else’s insufficient doing and wrongdoing. I obey the law strictly. I was imprisoned for enforcing the law.

I will tell you my sources for SWFQW so that you can expand your knowledge of the subject and inform your readers if you so choose. I am providing you with a sufficient sample of my material so that you can have the language structure compared with SWFQW.

Introduction - Works


My given name is Lyle Hartford Van Dyke, Jr. My father went by the name Lyle Van Dyke. I have gone by the name Hartford Van Dyke all of my life, with only legal exceptions. Because of the similarity of our names, some of the information about us has gotten mixed together on the internet by other people, some of it deliberately, and then misused in court. Several of my writings are available on the internet, including the following:


The Skeleton in Uncle Sam’s Closet (1973) Subject: The Attack on Pearl Harbor, December 7, 1941
Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars (1979)
My Commercial Law Manual (1993 - Present).
How to Create Currencies for Local Communities (2001-2002)

The Skeleton in Uncle Sam’s Closet


Roosevelt had Knox, Forrestal, and Powell put under military guard and held at gunpoint until after the Pearl Harbor attack for which there had been 66 hours forewarning.

I was born June 4, 1940, at Honolulu, Hawaii. My father’s uncle, Gerald Mason Van Dyke (Mason), in G-2 intelligence, sent the warning message about the impending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, Thursday afternoon, 2 PM, December 4, 1941, from Honolulu, Hawaii. The message was received by Rear Admiral Paulus Prince Powell in Washington, D. C. Powell relayed the message to Knox and Forrestal, who then wanted to get the ships (U.S. fleet) out of Pearl Harbor and put a defense perimeter around the Hawaiian Islands. Knox told Stimson. Stimson told Roosevelt.

Roosevelt had Knox, Forrestal, and Powell put under military guard and held at gunpoint until after the Pearl Harbor attack (for which there had been 66 hours forewarning). The detailed story is contained in my book The Skeleton in Uncle Sam’s Closet. I sent a quality paperback copy of this book to each of the 435 U.S. representatives, and to each of the 100 U.S. senators, in Washington, D. C.

My next book was the forerunner of Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars. It was titled Warning - Surprise Attack Imminent! It was published in the period of November 30 to December 7, 1941. A copy was sent to every U. S. Representative and Senator at that time. It contained the I-O (input-output) shock test equations that appeared later in SWFQW, but it did not have the electronic diagrams at the time. The original publication was 8-1/2 x 14 at 5 pages in length. It did give the source information, and I did sign the work, and provide a reply address.

Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars
SWFQW starts out as a logical sociopathic work and ends as an emotional sociopathic work. Being about ongoing war, the subject matter never ceases to be sociopathic, and neither does out nation’s current system of foreign or domestic political behavior.

Four years later, in 1978, I was able to obtain enough funding to research, compile, write, and publish the book SWFQW. The SWFQW project ran from about October 1978 to December 1979, approximately one year’s work. The subject is war, so the book is about the sociopathic attitude of those who promote war, and have contempt for the common man. The basic premise of the book is contained under the subheading ENERGY (page 7).

ENERGY
"…a nation or world of people who will not use their intelligence are no better than animals who do not have intelligence. Such a people are beasts of burden and steaks on the table by choice and consent."
The last paragraph of the book is an echo of this premise under the heading FACTOR VI - CATTLE (page 56 SWFQW)
"Those who will not use their brains are no better off than those who have no brains, and so this mindless school of jellyfish, father, mother, son, and daughter, become useful beasts of burden or trainers of the same."
It has been said that the fundamental principle of hypnosis is "in the battle between logic and imagination, imagination always wins." Imagination is often closely connected with emotion. SWFQW starts out as a very logical sociopathic work and ends as an emotional sociopathic work. But being about war, and especially an ongoing war, the subject matter never ceases to be sociopathic, and neither does out nation’s current system of foreign or domestic political behavior. The book SWFQW is like a gold mining operation. With the gold at one end of the process, and the tailings (refuse or dross) at the other end of the process.

SWFQW is a collage, an overlay and paste-up of the works and words of many authors. I was the author only in the sense that I compiled and linked the gems of other writers. The book is not a hoax. Wassily W. Leontief proved the content of SWFQW by his article in the September 1980 issue of Scientific American, entitled "the world Economy in the Year 2000." Leontief was the father of the Silent Weapons System, and was awarded the 1973 Nobel Prize in Economics long after his creation (1948) became recognized by the elite to be a weapon (1965).

Years passing do not change the invariant truths of science, not even of economic science. The elite were never fully named in SWFQW. It was not necessary to name them specifically. They are always among us, and they always will be among us.

SWFQW was a study in human nature; of motivation, psychological impulse and momentum, and force of habit; of control of social energy by influence, suggestion, and hypnosis; of the use of sociopathic processes to induce paranoid behavior; and so on. That is enough description of the theme and conceptual content of SWFQW. We now move on to a presentation of information sources.



A Partial List of Sources


The cover design of SWFQW was taken from a military training manual because many of the sources are military or military oriented think-tank-like sources.
"Operation Research" was suggested by A Report from Iron Mountain On the possibility and desirability of peace by Leonard C. Levin (c1967), hereafter referred to as The Report. The Report was the basis of the section subtitled "Security" on page 3 of SWFQW.
On page 4 of SWFQW, 74-1120" is my signature as author of The Skeleton in Uncle Sam’s Closet, an anagram of 41-12-07, the date of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.
On page 5 of SWFQW we have samples from Operation Research by Hamdy M. Taha.
Page 5, ¶ 3 has a phrase from Studies in the Structure of the American Economy by Wassily Leontief (1953).
Page 5, ¶ 4 - Encyclopedia
Page 5, ¶ 5 - The Report
Page 5, ¶ 6 - Many Sources
Page 5, ¶ 8 - Studies in the Structure…
Page 6, ¶ 1 - Studies in the Structure…
Page 6, ¶ 3 - Scientific Sources - Maser Research
Page 6, ¶ 6 - Reference to The Report
Page 7, - The Report and Studies in the Structure, etc.
Page 8, - Many sources besides systems logic and systems analogs
Page 8, 9, - Descriptive Introduction of the Silent Weapon - The Psychotic use of a sociopathic weapon to induce paranoia, achieved by economic subversion of the means of survival, which also works to brainwash individuals.

Economic Theory Applications: Shock Testing
A very telling phrase exists in the preface to Studies in the Structure of the American Economy by Wassily Leontief. It is a long dangling sentence, giving a series of objectives of the Harvard Economic Research Project of 1948, and it passes to the future use with something like "and the forces which make for changes in the structure of the economy.

It is the way in which it is stated that reveals the ulterior purposes of the Project. When this phrase is understood in relation to the phrases presented before and after it, it suggests a group of interrelated mathematical relationships and equations, which when integrated yield the actual expression of the cause and effect factors. It is this relationship to which Earl Ubell referred, and which caused the USAF to withdraw its funding from Leontief’s project during the Eisenhower Administration.

Let us now move from references to surrounding events. Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars contains a timeless, eternal message to human civilization to be eternally vigilant, to be well informed, to accept responsibility for the conditions of the world, to be sovereign, to appreciate the inner workings and thinking of Nature and Nature’s God, to listen for that "still small voice," and to know that "Divine Mind always has met and always will meet every human need." (M.B.E.)

How SWFQW came to be
In about October 1967, I asked my father about a vague memory of something I had heard him say about an aircraft being shot down in our neighborhood in Honolulu. As he told me about the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, he broke down in grief. I don’t recall ever seeing my father cry before that incident. I was shocked.

My father needed some kind of release from the mental burden he was carrying. I told him that I wanted to publish something about the Pearl Harbor attack with respect to what he had just told me. But he asked me to not publish anything about it because his uncle, Mason Van Dyke, was still getting a pension and medical benefits and the release of the information to the public might jeopardize Mason’s benefits. My father had promised Mason he would not publish anything about the Pearl Harbor incident until Mason had died.

I obeyed my father for two years, but when the Mi Lai massacre in Vietnam occurred, and our government officials began lying about what happened, I decided to publish the Pearl Harbor story, to expose and end at least some of the lying and the damage that lying causes. I immediately put a writing together about the Pearl Harbor attack and sent it to the US House of Representatives and the US Senate (535 copies). Then I wondered how accurate it was and if I could get the story again. I connected a tape recorder to the telephone line and called my father after providing to him a copy of what I had sent to the Congress, House and Senate. I asked my father to criticize my work, which he did. As a result of that conversation I got a tape recording for posterity about the real history of the Pearl Harbor attack.

I then sent a corrected printed copy of the story to Congress, House and Senate, another 535 copies. I attempted to confirm my father’s story by calling people he had mentioned. After recording those conversations, I made copies of my father’s conversation and sent them through the mail.

In late October 1972, I met a man who gave me a copy of the book None Dare Call It Conspiracy, by Gary Allen. The book inspired me to write my own book about Pearl Harbor entitled The Skeleton in Uncle Sam’s Closet, published in August, 1973. I sent a copy of the book to each US Representative and Senator, including Senator Daniel K. Inouye of Hawaii. During the last phases of the book’s production, I began reading a book called Report from Iron Mountain (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_ironmountain.htm) (on the possibility and desirability of peace) by Leonard C. Lewin (1967). I got about half way through that book before other things got more demanding and I laid the Report aside.

I set up a school in downtown Vancouver, WA, for high school students called the Technical Training Club, in late September or early October of 1973, and by spring of 1974 it was moved to a house at 8105 NE St. Johns Blvd., where I then lived and taught.

In the winter of 1974, I was going through some math books while researching a math problem (I think a problem on cubic equations), when I referred to my old college textbook College Algebra, by Lyman M. Kells of the US Naval Academy (1956 or 1958). I came across the footnote in that book and noticed that they exactly corresponded to the ideas in Report from Iron Mountain. I had discovered the mathematical methodology of the Silent Weapons System, and I had the key to finding more information on the subject. I located Studies in the Structure of the American Economy at the Multnomah County library in Portland, Oregon.

The Rockefeller Foundation had financed Wassily Leontief’s Harvard Economic Project with a grant of $100,000 (in 1948), and Nelson Rockefeller was trying to become vice president of the United States. So I again sent a warning message to every member of Congress and Senate trying to warn them of the Rockefeller’s ulterior motives. This writing was titled, Warning, Surprise Attack Imminent!. It was sent on or about December 7, 1974.

I did not know at that time that American Biography of 1967 under the subject "Leontief, Wassily (W.)" had already carried an article about this ulterior motive. The USAF had financed Leontief’s Harvard economics project beginning in 1949, but quit the financing "during the Eisenhower administration because, according to Earl Ubell in the New York Herald Tribune (May 9, 1965), some officials felt that the technique smacked too much of a planned economy." The Silent Weapons System is the central control system of the New World Order (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_nwo.htm).

Publication of Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars
The work on SWFQW began about October 1978 and was published in December 1979. Initially, about 65 copies of the book were sent out to various people and organizations. I do not know what happened to most of the copies, but I can fairly well account for one of them, which was given out by hand in early 1980. It was given to a military person, who was late for duty (or was going to be late), at McChord AFB in the state of Washington. He was hitchhiking through Vancouver on I-5 in uniform. Even though I was traveling in my own locality, I drove him to McChord (a two hour trip each way). On the way, I told him about the book SWFQW, and when he stepped out of the car to go onto the base I handed him a copy. I did not make any further general effort to publicize SWFQW until after 1986. I did give out copies to local friends between 1979 and 1986.

About America’s Promise Newsletter
In November 1986, the America’s Promise Newsletter (APN) ran an advertisement for SWFQW. It claimed that "a Boeing Aircraft employee bought a surplus copy machine at auction from McChord AFB and inside it he found a copy of SWFQW."
It was very probably the copy that I gave to the hitchhiker. The Boeing employee passed the book along to the APN of Phoenix, AZ. From that time on SWFQW got the attention it deserved. It was a wake-up call to America, and perhaps even the world, if we can believe Leontief’s Scientific American (Sept. 1980) article, "The World Economy in the Year 2000", wherein he says that by the year 1973, the year he received the Nobel Prize in Economics, sixty nations were already using his system to analyze their economies.

I am very grateful to William Cooper and APN for giving Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars to the world.

Hartford Van Dyke
December 17, 2003


PS: I already gulped down that one a while back and with some search found that letter from the author of that manual. Reading that letter, the author indeed demonstrates he is the author of said manual.

Wow. Many thanks. I take my hat off to you :) -- for all your excellent research. I'd been unaware that this very important letter existed.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Well, I'd like to put a fork in that pudding...

Anyway, if you can't post the PDF, could you at least post the link to the PDF as an edit to your above post? Or give the gist of where to find it?

I did and you have found other links too, nice letter btw, the taste of the pudding is butterscotch( i enjoy butterscotch, its also a funny word).

[Carmody]

It is the stages of grief (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_Z3lmidmrY), one might say as manipulated by elitist types. Aspect of commonality in the wiring of human minds, as part of a map for manipulation.

Conservative/republican mindsets, the ones peppered by western religion..those types seldom make it past stage 2 (angry and then attack)(with a facsimile, a worn rubber stamp, a wobbly puppet shape of god hovering in the backdrop of their violence)

The rest (so called democratic types/etc), who are more pacifist, make it to stage 3..where they calm down, try to think...but they 'look for answers from god', within their pacifism. They look for help from the skies.

They never make to the 'think your way out of the mess', and the 'figure out how to get out of this mess' point. That is stage 4/5, in one fell swoop. Where the thinking of the way out of the situation, is blocked by the core matter's clarity being blocked..via a false wall of complexity. Where the answers are seen to be so far away, that they are unrealistic, or non existent. They are reflected back into the despair component, by the wall of purposeful obfuscation. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obfuscation) (via the creation and existence of a secret society class hiding within the system)

Thus, those who might be the ones to fix the mess, are disarmed into 'looking to god', 'looking to aliens', 'looking to the skies', looking to disaster to lift them up, and so on. to be held in the moment of expectation that is in that pattern. Always an answer appearing on the horizon.

All the answers are actually fully on the table, but the pollution of the mind via the environment, electronic, living, religion, politics, genetic/food/intake and societal/cultural disruption...all this disallows obvious answers the opportunity to exist in the masses.

The face of this is showing the point that anyone (as examples) can have overunity on a page or in hand, or have truths abounding. the quickest form of death one can suffer, is to, in any way, shape, or form..to try and take that to the masses. To shape any sort of message in clarity for the masses. do that, attempt that, and death is usually very quick to come. Usually in about 24 hours.

[mojo]

actually some predictions were not about disasters but change...the beginning of change.

[Carmody]

regarding SWFQW (silent weapons for quiet wars).

reading the 'preface' (above letter). How to create a method for predicting the future outcome of a given human response. Well, as you can see in my above post on the idea of the five stages of human grief..group responses ARE predictable.

Now, to the point at hand. How to get large masses to a point that their future response IS predictable. Easy: Introduce engineered events.

For one already has a commonality of pattern in the masses, which via logical extraction....takes them to a patterned response. This is incredibly simple. thus, the injection of engineered events creates a patterned response which brings future predictability. Why does a sheep farmer have a trained sheepdog? Exactly so. The sheep farmer, the sheep, and the sheep dog... are the microcosm of of the larger macrocosm of human group reality. These two scenarios, regarding response patterns, are easily and correctly equatable.

[161803398]

Ignore them and choose the right path :)

http://bsnorrell.blogspot.ca/2012/12/idle-no-more-flash-mob-round-dance.html

http://www.idlenomore1.blogspot.ca/2012/12/aerial-view-of-toronto-round-dance.html

http://www.vancouverobserver.com/politics/first-nations-prepared-fight-harper-government-enbridge-international-court

The Indians say some people go by water and some people go by fire. Go by fire.

[The Truth Is In There]

You may not count the controllers as your friends but, to me, it sure appears like you commnunicate like one.

As for the "cause and effect," has it occurred to you that the "apathy" apparently exhibited by a large percentage of the population may have been intentionally created, fostered and nurtured that way?

i realize that my opinion is not a popular one, nevertheless i think there should be someone to point out that people take the easy road when blaming all the bad stuff on aliens, extradimensionals or "controllers".

to use an alleged quote by louis pasteur - "the microbe is nothing, the terrain is everything." in our case the "microbe" is all these negative things that are done by humans and the "terrain" is humanity. if humanity were an infertile terrain for "negativity" in all its expressions the aliens, extradimensionals and "controllers" could do whatever they wanted and it wouldn't affect us.

so those humans that are corruptible are the problem and not those who try to corrupt them. after all, even if things like "archons" really exist, why is it "evil" if they merely do what's in their nature? if there are beings who live off negative energy it only makes sense that they try to facilitate negativity wherever they go. that's not evil, it's perfectly understandable. or is a hunter evil because he kills a deer in order to eat it?

the problem is that it's basic human nature to be corruptible, power hungy and greedy. some have overcome it but most haven't and THAT is the problem. it's not the 1% (or aliens) who poison water and food, spray chemtrails, wage wars, destroy nature, create toxic drugs and whatnot, it's a part of the 99% who does it for money. if they would just say "no" we wouldn't have a problem with "negative" beings because they'd have to go elsewhere to feed.

[161803398]

or, if someone has a disease...its because their body is not in balance; if the body is healthy they will fight off the disease and remain healthy.

Aside from that...hunters are not evil if they respect the life they took, even pray for it...they are evil if they take stupid pictures of themselves grinning like psychopaths with the head or body of their kill.

[MalteseKnight]

Dear All,

On a lighter note, perhaps something really did happen on the 23rd December. Take a look at this 9NrwjHMucWA

Maybe we should repeat the experiment with a Red camera.

Grateful for any comments,

MalteseKnight

[Hervé]

Remember this no-nonsense piece:


Twilight Of The Psychopaths

by Dr. Kevin Barrett
Spanish version (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_ponerology09.htm)

from TheCanadian (http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/) Website

“Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it.”
– John Lennon, before his murder by CIA mind-control subject Mark David Chapman

When Gandhi was asked his opinion of Western civilization he said it would be a good idea. But that oft-cited quote, is misleading, assuming as it does that civilization is an unmitigated blessing.

Civilized people, we are told, live peacefully and cooperatively with their fellows, sharing the necessary labour in order to obtain the leisure to develop arts and sciences. And while that would be a good idea, it is not a good description of what has been going on in the so-called advanced cultures during the past 8,000 years.

Civilization, as we know it, is largely the creation of psychopaths. All civilizations, our own included, have been based on slavery and “warfare.” Incidentally, the latter term is a euphemism for mass murder.

The prevailing recipe for civilization is simple:
1. Use lies and brainwashing to create an army of controlled, systematic mass murderers
2. Use that army to enslave large numbers of people (i.e. seize control of their labour power and its fruits)
3. Use that slave labour power to improve the brainwashing process (by using the economic surplus to employ scribes, priests, and PR men). Then go back to step one and repeat the process.


Psychopaths have played a disproportionate role in the development of civilization, because they are hard-wired to lie, kill, injure, and generally inflict great suffering on other humans without feeling any remorse. The inventor of civilization — the first tribal chieftain who successfully brainwashed an army of controlled mass murderers—was almost certainly a genetic psychopath.

Since that momentous discovery, psychopaths have enjoyed a significant advantage over non-psychopaths in the struggle for power in civilizational hierarchies — especially military hierarchies.

Military institutions are tailor-made for psychopathic killers. The 5% or so of human males who feel no remorse about killing their fellow human beings make the best soldiers. And the 95% who are extremely reluctant to kill make terrible soldiers — unless they are brainwashed with highly sophisticated modern techniques that turn them (temporarily it is hoped) into functional psychopaths.

In On Killing (http://www.amazon.com/Killing-Psychological-Cost-Learning-Society/dp/0316330116/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208291611&sr=8-1), Lt. Col. Dave Grossman has re-written military history, to highlight what other histories hide: The fact that military science is less about strategy and technology, than about overcoming the instinctive human reluctance to kill members of our own species.

The true “Revolution in Military Affairs” was not Donald Rumsfeld’s move to high-tech in 2001, but Brigadier Gen. S.L.A. Marshall’s discovery in the 1940s that only 15-20% of World War II soldiers along the line of fire would use their weapons:

“Those (80-85%) who did not fire did not run or hide (in many cases they were willing to risk great danger to rescue comrades, get ammunition, or run messages), but they simply would not fire their weapons at the enemy, even when faced with repeated waves of banzai charges”
(Grossman, p. 4).

Marshall’s discovery and subsequent research, proved that in all previous wars, a tiny minority of soldiers — the 5% who are natural-born psychopaths, and perhaps a few temporarily-insane imitators—did almost all the killing.

Normal men just went through the motions and, if at all possible, refused to take the life of an enemy soldier, even if that meant giving up their own. The implication: Wars are ritualized mass murders by psychopaths of non-psychopaths. (This cannot be good for humanity’s genetic endowment!)

Marshall’s work, brought a Copernican revolution to military science. In the past, everyone believed that the soldier willing to kill for his country was the (heroic) norm, while one who refused to fight was a (cowardly) aberration. The truth, as it turned out, was that the normative soldier hailed from the psychopathic five percent.

The sane majority, would rather die than fight.

The implication, too frightening for even the likes of Marshall and Grossman to fully digest, was that the norms for soldiers’ behavior in battle had been set by psychopaths. That meant that psychopaths were in control of the military as an institution.

Worse, it meant that psychopaths were in control of society’s perception of military affairs. Evidently, psychopaths exercised an enormous amount of power in seemingly sane, normal society.

How could that be?

In Political Ponerology (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/polpon/politicalponerologyccr.htm), Andrzej Lobaczewski explains that clinical psychopaths enjoy advantages even in non-violent competitions to climb the ranks of social hierarchies. Because they can lie without remorse (and without the telltale physiological stress that is measured by lie detector tests) psychopaths can always say whatever is necessary to get what they want.

In court, for example, psychopaths can tell extreme bald-faced lies in a plausible manner, while their sane opponents are handicapped by an emotional predisposition to remain within hailing distance of the truth. Too often, the judge or jury imagines that the truth must be somewhere in the middle, and then issues decisions that benefit the psychopath. As with judges and juries, so too with those charged with decisions concerning who to promote and who not to promote in corporate, military and governmental hierarchies.

The result is that all hierarchies inevitably become top-heavy with psychopaths

[...]


Continue here: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...nerology08.htm



Well, guess what?

Now, it seems that "they" are hiring leaders of the US military on the basis of the very criteria described in the above paper:


From http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/shock-claim-the-new-litmus-test-of-leadership-in-the-military-is-if-they-will-fire-on-us-citizens-or-not_01222013:

Shock Claim: “The New Litmus Test Of Leadership In The Military Is If They Will Fire On US Citizens Or Not”

Mac Slavo
January 22nd, 2013
SHTFplan.com (http://www.shtfplan.com/)
Comments (529) (http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/shock-claim-the-new-litmus-test-of-leadership-in-the-military-is-if-they-will-fire-on-us-citizens-or-not_01222013#comments)
Read by 30,126 people

Had the following comments been made on a fringe corner of the internet most would dismiss them as outright conjecture. However, what you are about to read comes from one of the world’s foremost philanthropists, Jim Garrow, who has spent tens of millions of dollars of his own money (http://www.humanevents.com/2010/01/26/this-nobel-nominee-actually-saves-babies/) to help over 35,000 Chinese baby girls from near certain death under China’s one-child-per-couple policy.

He was one of the 206 nominees for the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize, which was ultimately awarded to President Barack Obama.

Garrow, who has friends in high places, including the U.S. military, made a startling claim on his Facebook page Sunday, which if true, should leave no doubt about why the Obama administration is moving full force to seize firearms from law abiding Americans and why the US government’s law enforcement and security assets have been making preparations for years in anticipation of social breakdown and widespread civil unrest (http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/military-drills-is-the-army-preparing-for-a-martial-law-scenario-in-united-states-latest-photos_04102012).

According to Garrow, the Obama administration has been rapidly retiring or re-assigning US military leaders based on a new ‘litmus test’ of their loyalty:

I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new “litmus test” in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks.
“The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not”.
Those who will not are being removed.
Dr. Jim Garrow – January 21, 2013 (https://www.facebook.com/jim.garrow.1/posts/10151209214442015)

http://shtfplan.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/garrow2.jpg


When pressed for the source of his information and asked why the senior military leader would not reveal his name, Garrow responded by saying, “I believe that the gentleman has done what he should and allowed all of us to sound the alarm.”


He revealed only that the man who shared this information, “is one of America’s foremost military heroes,” suggesting the source is a public figure.


Paul Joseph Watson of Infowars (http://www.infowars.com/nobel-peace-prize-nominee-obama-asks-military-leaders-if-they-will-fire-on-us-citizens/) notes that this new ‘litmus test’ comes at a time when millions of Americans are already suspicious of the government’s motives behind a number of actions, including the most recent push to disarm the population:



Garrow’s claim is even more explosive given that the country is in the throes of a national debate about gun control, with gun rights advocates keen to insist that the founders put the second amendment in the Constitution primarily as a defense against government tyranny.



It also follows reports on Sunday (http://freebeacon.com/report-obama-ousting-centcom-chief-mattis/) that General James Mattis, head of the United States Central Command, “is being told to vacate his office several months earlier than planned.”


Would Jim Garrow put his reputation on the line by spreading a rumor or simply make this up to garner attention?


Or, is it possible that he does in fact have a high level military source who is privy to this information – someone who has himself been removed from his position because he didn’t pass the litmus test?


Should the Obama administration take Executive Actions against Americans in the event of a scenario where gun confiscation becomes reality or a collapse of our economic system leads to a complete meltdown (http://www.shtfplan.com/marc-faber/pentagon-military-actively-war-gaming-large-scale-economic-breakdown-and-civil-unrest_11222010) of law and order on the streets of America, the administration would likely deploy military assets under martial law to subdue any uprisings or riots.


The only way this could be done is if military leaders are willing to command their subordinates to deploy against the American people and fire on them if necessary.


If Garrow’s claims are true, one can only shudder at the thought of what the end-game may be.


Author: Mac Slavo
Views: Read by 30,126 people
Date: January 22nd, 2013
Website: www.SHTFplan.com (http://www.shtfplan.com/)

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[Camilo]

It sounds like something that came out of a parallel timeline.

[Wide-Eyed]

"Silent weapons for quiet wars"

For a text version of "Silent Weapons For Quiet Wars":
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_cooper2.htm (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_cooper2.htm)


For downloading the PDF version:
http://www.coalitionoftheobvious.com/SILENT_20WEAPONS_20for_20QUIET_20WARS.pdf

http://www.coalitionoftheobvious.com/SILENT_20WEAPONS_20for_20QUIET_20WARS.pdf

Now...

Here is a (long) letter from the author of that manual:


Silent weapons for quiet wars


Letter, mailed from a federal prison, from one Hartford Van Dyke (http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/vandykeletters.html)
to ParanoiaMagazine (http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/) Website



Dear Paranoia,

I will begin my response to your December 8, 2003 letter with comments about your article, and then give a biographical account.

I thoroughly enjoyed the opening statements in your magazine article about Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars (SWFQW). It had a Sherlock Holmes flavor to it. An analysis of your article would be an interesting way to start this response, therefore so be it.

Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars did not have a "preface," so it did not make what would have been a "bizarre claim" to have been "found in a surplus IBM copy machine in 1986 by a Boeing Aircraft employee…" That claim about the SWFQW book being found in the copy machine was made in an 8-1/2 by 11 inch news release/advertisement published in November 1986 by the America’s Promise Newsletter (APN) of Phoenix, Arizona, and in their publication of SWFQW, of which you have either a copy or some derivative writing.

If you have a copy of the original APN news release/advertisement, then you would know that William Cooper’s 1991 publication was not the first SWFQW publishing event. The original America’s Promise Newsletter of November 1986 stated that the said copy machine was purchased at auction from the McChord Air Force Base (located near Fort Lewis) in Washington State.

SWFQW is an "elite blueprint." There is nothing "dubious" about it. The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_zion.htm) was not used as a reference source for SWFQW. In the end of your first paragraph, you home-in on the technical essence of the SWFQW book, similar to the APN November 1986 news release/advertisement.

SWFQW is not a "paranoid manifesto;" it is a politically biased technical instruction manual on how to justify, and how to selectively survive, human animal husbandry before the need for animal husbandry becomes unstably critical.
(Note: Historical Introduction - SWFQW, page five, states that a "system was necessary which could race ahead of society and predict when society would arrive for capitulation."

Cooper might have read SWFQW in a "Naval Intelligence Majority Twelve File." Delamar Duverus of the American Sunbeam made a similar claim. And families of the upper class and their organizations did make contributions to the Leontief economics project, (e.g., Rockefeller (1948) - SWFQW, page 5).

You state that you have had an undated SWFQW pamphlet in your collection since approximately 1993. Yet your article quotes the end of the SWFQW section entitled Welcome Aboard (SWFQW page 4), as May 1979.

Also #74-1120 is an anagram of the date of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, 41-12-07.The forerunner of SWFQW, complete with sources, equations, my signature, and my address, was published on or about 74-12-07. My book on the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor was published at the end of August 1973.

Your analysis of Cooper’s capacity to understand economics and present economic arguments is an interesting piece of detective work. It is important to note that the references to the "patriot movement," to "patriot leanings," or to the "Illuminati" blueprint have absolutely no significance in reference to SWFQW as a scientific textbook of mathematical and economic warfare. Every past method of human conquest by mere physical warfare has been made obsolete by the Silent Weapons technology, except for the mechanics of implementing the use of the Silent Weapons technology.

Once it becomes recognized that every problem, especially every mathematical problem, contains its own sufficient solution, it also becomes clear that "an error uncovered is two-thirds destroyed," and the remaining one-third is destroyed by division of the house from within. Therefore, SWFQW states the problem and the solution, which gives it an "ambiguous" character. It is not a "hoax" any more than any other presentation of a scientific process could be deemed a hoax merely because it was not presented with the endorsement of its original discoverer. SWFQW has many authors.

War is "sociopathic" from the viewpoint of the prey. If the predator is victorious, then the war "is" and "beneficial" and "self-nobling" as the predator chooses to politically justify it.

Authorship
In 1979 it was necessary for me to take a low profile with respect to the government because I still had much work to do. I have completed that work and it is all published and released into the public domain. It has made the government angry enough to imprison me.

I am now returning to your letter, and the subject of authorship of SWFQW. In the first place, you request evidence that I am the author of SWFQW. You need to understand that my objective is to inform you about the SWFQW subject matter and its origins for the purpose of educating you and whomever you choose to share this information with. You are free to print whatever I send to you. You do not have to pay me for anything or ask my permission. I am a public servant, and have been since 1967.

One of the people who helped me do the final publication work on SWFQW became concerned about the book becoming disinformation and asked me to reveal my authorship of the work in 1996, which I did by announcing it on a radio talk show. Otherwise, it would still be an anonymous work.

In 1979, it was necessary for me to take a low profile position with respect to the government because I still had much work to do. I have completed that work and it is all published and released into the public domain and may be reproduced for a profit. It has made the operations of the government angry enough to imprison me. Even then it took them five and one-half years to put me into prison, which was done by accusing me of being a party to someone else’s insufficient doing and wrongdoing. I obey the law strictly. I was imprisoned for enforcing the law.

I will tell you my sources for SWFQW so that you can expand your knowledge of the subject and inform your readers if you so choose. I am providing you with a sufficient sample of my material so that you can have the language structure compared with SWFQW.

Introduction - Works


My given name is Lyle Hartford Van Dyke, Jr. My father went by the name Lyle Van Dyke. I have gone by the name Hartford Van Dyke all of my life, with only legal exceptions. Because of the similarity of our names, some of the information about us has gotten mixed together on the internet by other people, some of it deliberately, and then misused in court. Several of my writings are available on the internet, including the following:

The Skeleton in Uncle Sam’s Closet (1973) Subject: The Attack on Pearl Harbor, December 7, 1941
Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars (1979)
My Commercial Law Manual (1993 - Present).
How to Create Currencies for Local Communities (2001-2002)
The Skeleton in Uncle Sam’s Closet


Roosevelt had Knox, Forrestal, and Powell put under military guard and held at gunpoint until after the Pearl Harbor attack for which there had been 66 hours forewarning.

I was born June 4, 1940, at Honolulu, Hawaii. My father’s uncle, Gerald Mason Van Dyke (Mason), in G-2 intelligence, sent the warning message about the impending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, Thursday afternoon, 2 PM, December 4, 1941, from Honolulu, Hawaii. The message was received by Rear Admiral Paulus Prince Powell in Washington, D. C. Powell relayed the message to Knox and Forrestal, who then wanted to get the ships (U.S. fleet) out of Pearl Harbor and put a defense perimeter around the Hawaiian Islands. Knox told Stimson. Stimson told Roosevelt.

Roosevelt had Knox, Forrestal, and Powell put under military guard and held at gunpoint until after the Pearl Harbor attack (for which there had been 66 hours forewarning). The detailed story is contained in my book The Skeleton in Uncle Sam’s Closet. I sent a quality paperback copy of this book to each of the 435 U.S. representatives, and to each of the 100 U.S. senators, in Washington, D. C.

My next book was the forerunner of Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars. It was titled Warning - Surprise Attack Imminent! It was published in the period of November 30 to December 7, 1941. A copy was sent to every U. S. Representative and Senator at that time. It contained the I-O (input-output) shock test equations that appeared later in SWFQW, but it did not have the electronic diagrams at the time. The original publication was 8-1/2 x 14 at 5 pages in length. It did give the source information, and I did sign the work, and provide a reply address.

Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars
SWFQW starts out as a logical sociopathic work and ends as an emotional sociopathic work. Being about ongoing war, the subject matter never ceases to be sociopathic, and neither does out nation’s current system of foreign or domestic political behavior.

Four years later, in 1978, I was able to obtain enough funding to research, compile, write, and publish the book SWFQW. The SWFQW project ran from about October 1978 to December 1979, approximately one year’s work. The subject is war, so the book is about the sociopathic attitude of those who promote war, and have contempt for the common man. The basic premise of the book is contained under the subheading ENERGY (page 7).

ENERGY
"…a nation or world of people who will not use their intelligence are no better than animals who do not have intelligence. Such a people are beasts of burden and steaks on the table by choice and consent."
The last paragraph of the book is an echo of this premise under the heading FACTOR VI - CATTLE (page 56 SWFQW)
"Those who will not use their brains are no better off than those who have no brains, and so this mindless school of jellyfish, father, mother, son, and daughter, become useful beasts of burden or trainers of the same."
It has been said that the fundamental principle of hypnosis is "in the battle between logic and imagination, imagination always wins." Imagination is often closely connected with emotion. SWFQW starts out as a very logical sociopathic work and ends as an emotional sociopathic work. But being about war, and especially an ongoing war, the subject matter never ceases to be sociopathic, and neither does out nation’s current system of foreign or domestic political behavior. The book SWFQW is like a gold mining operation. With the gold at one end of the process, and the tailings (refuse or dross) at the other end of the process.

SWFQW is a collage, an overlay and paste-up of the works and words of many authors. I was the author only in the sense that I compiled and linked the gems of other writers. The book is not a hoax. Wassily W. Leontief proved the content of SWFQW by his article in the September 1980 issue of Scientific American, entitled "the world Economy in the Year 2000." Leontief was the father of the Silent Weapons System, and was awarded the 1973 Nobel Prize in Economics long after his creation (1948) became recognized by the elite to be a weapon (1965).

Years passing do not change the invariant truths of science, not even of economic science. The elite were never fully named in SWFQW. It was not necessary to name them specifically. They are always among us, and they always will be among us.

SWFQW was a study in human nature; of motivation, psychological impulse and momentum, and force of habit; of control of social energy by influence, suggestion, and hypnosis; of the use of sociopathic processes to induce paranoid behavior; and so on. That is enough description of the theme and conceptual content of SWFQW. We now move on to a presentation of information sources.



A Partial List of Sources

The cover design of SWFQW was taken from a military training manual because many of the sources are military or military oriented think-tank-like sources.
"Operation Research" was suggested by A Report from Iron Mountain On the possibility and desirability of peace by Leonard C. Levin (c1967), hereafter referred to as The Report. The Report was the basis of the section subtitled "Security" on page 3 of SWFQW.
On page 4 of SWFQW, 74-1120" is my signature as author of The Skeleton in Uncle Sam’s Closet, an anagram of 41-12-07, the date of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.
On page 5 of SWFQW we have samples from Operation Research by Hamdy M. Taha.
Page 5, ¶ 3 has a phrase from Studies in the Structure of the American Economy by Wassily Leontief (1953).
Page 5, ¶ 4 - Encyclopedia
Page 5, ¶ 5 - The Report
Page 5, ¶ 6 - Many Sources
Page 5, ¶ 8 - Studies in the Structure…
Page 6, ¶ 1 - Studies in the Structure…
Page 6, ¶ 3 - Scientific Sources - Maser Research
Page 6, ¶ 6 - Reference to The Report
Page 7, - The Report and Studies in the Structure, etc.
Page 8, - Many sources besides systems logic and systems analogs
Page 8, 9, - Descriptive Introduction of the Silent Weapon - The Psychotic use of a sociopathic weapon to induce paranoia, achieved by economic subversion of the means of survival, which also works to brainwash individuals.
Economic Theory Applications: Shock Testing
A very telling phrase exists in the preface to Studies in the Structure of the American Economy by Wassily Leontief. It is a long dangling sentence, giving a series of objectives of the Harvard Economic Research Project of 1948, and it passes to the future use with something like "and the forces which make for changes in the structure of the economy.

It is the way in which it is stated that reveals the ulterior purposes of the Project. When this phrase is understood in relation to the phrases presented before and after it, it suggests a group of interrelated mathematical relationships and equations, which when integrated yield the actual expression of the cause and effect factors. It is this relationship to which Earl Ubell referred, and which caused the USAF to withdraw its funding from Leontief’s project during the Eisenhower Administration.

Let us now move from references to surrounding events. Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars contains a timeless, eternal message to human civilization to be eternally vigilant, to be well informed, to accept responsibility for the conditions of the world, to be sovereign, to appreciate the inner workings and thinking of Nature and Nature’s God, to listen for that "still small voice," and to know that "Divine Mind always has met and always will meet every human need." (M.B.E.)

How SWFQW came to be
In about October 1967, I asked my father about a vague memory of something I had heard him say about an aircraft being shot down in our neighborhood in Honolulu. As he told me about the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, he broke down in grief. I don’t recall ever seeing my father cry before that incident. I was shocked.

My father needed some kind of release from the mental burden he was carrying. I told him that I wanted to publish something about the Pearl Harbor attack with respect to what he had just told me. But he asked me to not publish anything about it because his uncle, Mason Van Dyke, was still getting a pension and medical benefits and the release of the information to the public might jeopardize Mason’s benefits. My father had promised Mason he would not publish anything about the Pearl Harbor incident until Mason had died.

I obeyed my father for two years, but when the Mi Lai massacre in Vietnam occurred, and our government officials began lying about what happened, I decided to publish the Pearl Harbor story, to expose and end at least some of the lying and the damage that lying causes. I immediately put a writing together about the Pearl Harbor attack and sent it to the US House of Representatives and the US Senate (535 copies). Then I wondered how accurate it was and if I could get the story again. I connected a tape recorder to the telephone line and called my father after providing to him a copy of what I had sent to the Congress, House and Senate. I asked my father to criticize my work, which he did. As a result of that conversation I got a tape recording for posterity about the real history of the Pearl Harbor attack.

I then sent a corrected printed copy of the story to Congress, House and Senate, another 535 copies. I attempted to confirm my father’s story by calling people he had mentioned. After recording those conversations, I made copies of my father’s conversation and sent them through the mail.

In late October 1972, I met a man who gave me a copy of the book None Dare Call It Conspiracy, by Gary Allen. The book inspired me to write my own book about Pearl Harbor entitled The Skeleton in Uncle Sam’s Closet, published in August, 1973. I sent a copy of the book to each US Representative and Senator, including Senator Daniel K. Inouye of Hawaii. During the last phases of the book’s production, I began reading a book called Report from Iron Mountain (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_ironmountain.htm) (on the possibility and desirability of peace) by Leonard C. Lewin (1967). I got about half way through that book before other things got more demanding and I laid the Report aside.

I set up a school in downtown Vancouver, WA, for high school students called the Technical Training Club, in late September or early October of 1973, and by spring of 1974 it was moved to a house at 8105 NE St. Johns Blvd., where I then lived and taught.

In the winter of 1974, I was going through some math books while researching a math problem (I think a problem on cubic equations), when I referred to my old college textbook College Algebra, by Lyman M. Kells of the US Naval Academy (1956 or 1958). I came across the footnote in that book and noticed that they exactly corresponded to the ideas in Report from Iron Mountain. I had discovered the mathematical methodology of the Silent Weapons System, and I had the key to finding more information on the subject. I located Studies in the Structure of the American Economy at the Multnomah County library in Portland, Oregon.

The Rockefeller Foundation had financed Wassily Leontief’s Harvard Economic Project with a grant of $100,000 (in 1948), and Nelson Rockefeller was trying to become vice president of the United States. So I again sent a warning message to every member of Congress and Senate trying to warn them of the Rockefeller’s ulterior motives. This writing was titled, Warning, Surprise Attack Imminent!. It was sent on or about December 7, 1974.

I did not know at that time that American Biography of 1967 under the subject "Leontief, Wassily (W.)" had already carried an article about this ulterior motive. The USAF had financed Leontief’s Harvard economics project beginning in 1949, but quit the financing "during the Eisenhower administration because, according to Earl Ubell in the New York Herald Tribune (May 9, 1965), some officials felt that the technique smacked too much of a planned economy." The Silent Weapons System is the central control system of the New World Order (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_nwo.htm).

Publication of Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars
The work on SWFQW began about October 1978 and was published in December 1979. Initially, about 65 copies of the book were sent out to various people and organizations. I do not know what happened to most of the copies, but I can fairly well account for one of them, which was given out by hand in early 1980. It was given to a military person, who was late for duty (or was going to be late), at McChord AFB in the state of Washington. He was hitchhiking through Vancouver on I-5 in uniform. Even though I was traveling in my own locality, I drove him to McChord (a two hour trip each way). On the way, I told him about the book SWFQW, and when he stepped out of the car to go onto the base I handed him a copy. I did not make any further general effort to publicize SWFQW until after 1986. I did give out copies to local friends between 1979 and 1986.

About America’s Promise Newsletter
In November 1986, the America’s Promise Newsletter (APN) ran an advertisement for SWFQW. It claimed that "a Boeing Aircraft employee bought a surplus copy machine at auction from McChord AFB and inside it he found a copy of SWFQW."
It was very probably the copy that I gave to the hitchhiker. The Boeing employee passed the book along to the APN of Phoenix, AZ. From that time on SWFQW got the attention it deserved. It was a wake-up call to America, and perhaps even the world, if we can believe Leontief’s Scientific American (Sept. 1980) article, "The World Economy in the Year 2000", wherein he says that by the year 1973, the year he received the Nobel Prize in Economics, sixty nations were already using his system to analyze their economies.

I am very grateful to William Cooper and APN for giving Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars to the world.

Hartford Van Dyke
December 17, 2003


PS: I already gulped down that one a while back and with some search found that letter from the author of that manual. Reading that letter, the author indeed demonstrates he is the author of said manual.

WOW! Merci Herve :bump::bump::bump::bump::bump:

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I wanted to bump Herve's entire post but it was too long or something. But this post of the foreword or letter from the author of Silent Weapons Quiet Wars is outstanding. Thank you , e Merci





Now...

Here is a (long) letter from the author of that manual:


Silent weapons for quiet wars


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Might as well go for a soda
Nobody hurts and nobody cries
Might as well go for a soda
Nobody drowns and nobody dies

So we're in one of our blue moods
You wanna have it your way and I want it mine
All this debating going 'round in our blue mood
Makes me thirst for love

Might as well go for a soda
Nobody hurts and nobody cries
Might as well go for a soda
Nobody drowns and nobody dies

Life seems to be a bomb inside your head
Well, the bomb in my head is love
All this debating going 'round in our blue mood
Makes me thirsty for love

Might as well go for a soda
Nobody hurts and nobody cries
Might as well go for a soda
Nobody drowns and nobody dies

Might as well go for a soda
It's better than slander, it's better than lies
Might as well go for a soda
Nobody hurts and nobody cries

Might as well go for a soda...

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