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10th September 2010, 15:09
They can be achived by continuous swirling that promotes a state of meditation.
This is a sample shown in a public performance. The real deal is in a protected enviorenment.
Dance and meditation are close to my heart because I was a professional dancer and a meditation fă for years .


10th September 2010, 15:15

Only Breath

Not Christian or Jew or Muslim, not Hindu

Buddhist, sufi, or zen. Not any religion

or cultural system. I am not from the East

or the West, not out of the ocean or up

from the ground, not natural or ethereal, not

composed of elements at all. I do not exist,

am not an entity in this world or in the next,

did not descend from Adam and Eve or any

origin story. My place is placeless, a trace

of the traceless. Neither body or soul.

I belong to the beloved, have seen the two

worlds as one and that one call to and know,

first, last, outer, inner, only that

breath breathing human being.

From Essential Rumi

by Coleman Barks

Not Intrigued With Evening

What the material world values does

not shine the same in the truth of

the soul. You have been interested

in your shadow. Look instead directly

at the sun. What can we know by just

watching the time-and-space shapes of

each other? Someone half awake in the night sees imaginary dangers; the

morning star rises; the horizon grows

defined; people become friends in a

moving caravan. Night birds may think

daybreak a kind of darkness, because

that's all they know. It's a fortunate

bird who's not intrigued with evening,

who flies in the sun we call Shams.

10th September 2010, 15:26
A video that explaines how to do it...FOR BEGINNERS :)


10th September 2010, 15:40
Swirling is one of the 5 Tiben Rites exercises. I try, but puke and turn green. How does anyone spin around and around without becoming nauseated?

10th September 2010, 18:58
Practice :)

10th September 2010, 21:57
EHEHEHEH ! :bad::man_in_love::fie:

Yes, it is one of the 5 Tibetans...but without focussing your eyes in a fixed spot and with a little bit more «coreografy » :) with the palm of one hand up connects you to the sky and the other palm down, with the earth.

My advice is to start twirling very slowly and just enough times to get you centered in the heart....If you wacht the 2 video until the end , it will give a good idea that the dance is very soft and slow.

The twirling is great to put your aura spinnning and energises your chacras. Try visualizing the 7 colors, one at a time, bathing your aura in beautiful light colors.......


11th September 2010, 02:26
The most interesting thing I've managed to research and come up with on the material 'Salvia divinorum', is that when people come out from underneath it's influence..if they be of the psychic type... they catch the edge of the 'fractal layering' of dimensional and temporal existence as they come back to the 'here and now' and they come 'up' in a SPIRAL, and it is always the exact same direction and orientation. For everyone..

11th September 2010, 11:07
Hello Carmody ! :)........What is the Salvia Divinorum material... the plant ?

11th September 2010, 13:27
I drank it down in one
and collapsed intoxicated by purity.
Ever since, I can't tell if I exist or not.
Sometimes I know the bliss
of the I that looks through my eyes.
Other times my habits dump me back in the s**t.
But then there it is - that aroma once again.
I'm returned to the Rose Garden.

(and Shams)

11th September 2010, 16:09
Thank you MariaDine, it's so beautiful. I too love dance ( and meditation ) , especially all kinds of sacred dance . I feel it's one of the most extatic ways to experience the sacred union..

I also met a group of Sufis once on my ways in India, they were originally from Iran. They were seeking asylum in India I believe running away from the oppressive regime in their country.
They've introduced me to one of the most beautiful devotional music in old Persian I've ever heard, just sorry that I did not ask for copy of the cassette that time.

We did this kind of 'whirling' as kids for competition as who will fall of the last :haha: I did not get dizzy that time and enjoyed the spin till all world was swirling in colors around me even after I fell on bed .

From much later experience with dance I know it's important to keep ones focus on hand(s). It's one of the secrets of old shamans when they go to trance and wake up again,
you are adviced to look at your palms . And keep unaltered awareness in them during the movement.