F.u.b.a.r.

[Freed Fox]

This is like the "I'm trying to love you" thread, except it actually has a cogent point to make. Where do I begin?

Agriculture
Herbicides, pesticides, GMO's.... Monsanto owns virtually everything, and only looks to be making its monopoly complete. People in California VOTE AGAINST labeling GMO food products! THEY DON'T EVEN WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE EATING! And as Monsanto knows, throw enough money at a problem and it goes away. Never mind if it's going to give us all cancer 20 years from now.

Environment
We're doing our very best to pollute ourselves right out of any clean water supply. The air is so bad in some places (like China) that THEY ACTUALLY SELL FRESH AIR IN A CAN. And perhaps most amazingly of all, we're still chopping away at the Amazon, attempting to destroy what is best personified as the 'lungs of the Earth'.

Politics
Such an absolute joke that I don't think I need to go there. You're all smart enough. The (very) few honest individuals have their motions crushed by the almighty filibuster, lobbied interests, or media smear campaigns.

Culture and "Society"

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War
The most powerful nation in the world, and America is really just Israel's b*tch...

Economy
DEAR GOD, WE NEED TO SAVE THE ECONOMY!!! Never mind the homeless, impoverished, and the starved. Those heroes on Wall St. need their bonuses, god damn it!

It's 5 A.M. here, I must have just woken up lonely. I hate to be a pessimist, but there are two real conclusions I can make here.

1.) I would take great comfort in knowing that I'm on my way out, and see no point whatsoever to start a family (so I can pass these problems on to another generation) or to invest my time finding a solution to any of the above (as money is the only power people respect anymore, along with their personal comfort. Corporations will crush any solution that rears its head and the sheeple will cling to what is 'normal').

2.) Take the human race out of the equation, and suddenly Planet Earth has no more problems that she can't fix herself. Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING gets along better without us.

[spiritguide]

As stewards of the planet we are failing because we let greed take sway instead of love. Owning anything material is just an illusion, for when we die what will we have? IMHO

[ulli]

It's about the transition period between the defective old system, and a new system,
which has to spring up from the grass roots.
In the process many of the old values were thrown out and need to be rediscovered. Like reinventing the wheel.
As more and more decent people leave leadership positions only the most corrupt remain behind.
Yet there are many positive signs and movements where the spirit is genuine, one just has to know where to look. First of all, find out which cause one is most identified with, whether animals rights, nutrition, ecology, new technologies, and then start looking into these fields and find one's own niche. You will be surprised how in each area the is already a well-advanced grassroots movement in place.
There you can make your contribution as well as receive benefits.

[Bo Atkinson]

Somewhere in the greater purpose of an expansive universe, there needs to exist an ultimate sanity. Such that expansively evolved relationships, for example: predator + parasite+ saporite + commensalist + etc.. can eventually experience symbiosis... We seem to have this task at hand, of projecting workable realities, filtering out the self demising play cards. Playing the game of building balance and renewal, instead of demise (antibiosis?). Despite the scare tactics of pulling weaker minds into the domain of self demise and bribed deceits, (hierarchies and politics).

[Operator]

I have a theory ...

Initiation is the process of gaining knowledge.
The more we study the occult the more we actually initiate ourselves into it. Except we don't take the pledges and the vows.
By studying more and more you will become the 'illumined' one yourself ... Sounds crazy doesn't it?

I noticed that at on some issues we are able to see, understand and perhaps even accept Illuminati viewpoints.




1.) I would take great comfort in knowing that I'm on my way out, and see no point whatsoever to start a family (so I can pass these problems on to another generation) or to invest my time finding a solution to any of the above (as money is the only power people respect anymore, along with their personal comfort. Corporations will crush any solution that rears its head and the sheeple will cling to what is 'normal').

2.) Take the human race out of the equation, and suddenly Planet Earth has no more problems that she can't fix herself. Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING gets along better without us.

Not starting a family is also in the line of taking the human race out of the equation ... which is what TPTB want in the first place.
Although there is strategic value in removing the slaves from the masters it is like killing yourself before you can be killed by them
just to avoid them having the pleasure. What's the advantage? What's the point?

The problem is that we want fast results. And maybe here's something we should learn from the TPTB.
We should have more patience. The problem has grown over several centuries. The solution may take
several centuries too.

I have a hard time in my family because my wife almost totally resists other viewpoints than the conventional
ones like study like crazy, get some diplomas, get a job etc. etc. That is hardly paradigm breaking. Isn't it?
But I think that somehow my viewpoints will also percolate to my kids. They will remember later and when they
are matured they will pass on a more open minded view themselves to the next generation.

We'll have to fight and resist today with the means we have today. TPTB are already behind schedule and it
looks like they are successfully slowed down already. Make no mistake, they are not stopped yet!

Their power is declining while the awakened mass is growing. So we should not claim victory yet. There are
many pitfalls like accepting their ideas. Our only route to overcome this is to remove all the roots of evil.
Which includes IMHO the idea that we are better than 'sheeple' because we now seem to know more.
Knowing more doesn't mean we're more intelligent. It simply means we have a job to do.
Don't force it to them but simply offer the material ...

[Bill Ryan]

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Many thanks for the thread and the honesty, FF. Yes, this is the tough reality.

* FUBAR is a [unofficial!] military term dating back to WWII. It means F***ed Up Beyond All Repair (or Recognition).

Planet Earth (and most of the human race) is in huge trouble. I've been beating that drum for years. What you list is just the tip of an enormous iceberg.

It may be quite important that Avalonians do extrovert themselves and focus on the reality out there.

It can be a little less lonely knowing that right here, just a Personal Message away, there are many hundreds of smart and informed people, all of whom are potential friends and allies at a whole number of levels, empathic, kind and aware, who will look out of this rather grim window with you.

My personal stance is and always has been that if we didn't stand a chance, I'd not have returned to this planet this lifetime. I really mean that. It was an informed choice. Hundreds of thousands (maybe many more than that) of remarkable individuals are also here as well. It's quite an army.

I've no doubt you're one of them. Waking up and feeling like you're the only one is tough -- but that's an illusion (and is designed to be that way: the amnesia we all have does not help). Connecting strong, able and informed people together is one of the many functions of the forum.

[Revere]

It's about the transition period between the defective old system, and a new system,
which has to spring up from the grass roots.
In the process many of the old values were thrown out and need to be rediscovered. Like reinventing the wheel.
As more and more decent people leave leadership positions only the most corrupt remain behind.
Yet there are many positive signs and movements where the spirit is genuine, one just has to know where to look. First of all, find out which cause one is most identified with, whether animals rights, nutrition, ecology, new technologies, and then start looking into these fields and find one's own niche. You will be surprised how in each area the is already a well-advanced grassroots movement in place.
There you can make your contribution as well as receive benefits.

Right on Ulli! to give up is to contradict your purpose for being here!

Peace,
"R"

[4evrneo]

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My personal stance is and always has been that if we didn't stand a chance, I'd not have returned to this planet this lifetime. I really mean that. It was an informed choice. Hundreds of thousands (maybe many more than that) of remarkable individuals are also here as well. It's quite an army.

I've no doubt you're one of them.

I couldnt agree more Bill.
I feel strongly as well that we do stand a chance, and is the same argument I make to my adult children that things may look grim upon awakening but that we are here and our responsibility is obvious.

and FreedFox, thank you for being here among this unique family, you have much to offer and are valued by many :)

[ulli]

Here is a niche for someone who wants to tackle larger issues than the freedom to carry arms, or gun control:

http://i.imgur.com/eyPMnkP.jpg

[Peace of Mind]

If you really think about it...The world will get along better without humans, however, the potential of man can turn this place into paradise,easily. Instead, just look at what we all did and are still doing to this place and the Earth's other inhabitants. Most of us were trained to be evil and don't even realize it, we pretend we're not and make lame excuses in the hope of justifying our most currupt and sinful ways. Sacifice others just so they can survive...but survive to do nothing but whine inside their stagnation. You would think if you receive life from another source you would return the favor by granting life. But what happens, We/Humans cry and whine about problems yet these same people neglect dealing with the issues and shy away/ignore those willing to remedy the situation (i see this all the time).

I’ve never imagine that a species with so much potential will just throw it all away, perhaps it's because they were trained to be scared and inferior. In a way I do understand why there are so many idle souls, I can sympathize somewhat. What I don’t grasp is how those that claim to know what’s happening, or think they know what’s happening…does nothing but sit on their ass and chat about it all day every day while the world they cry about continues to rot away. What do you expect to accomplish if your world is filled with unpleasant news and all you did was give the news your power (most times unconfirmed news waiting for your creative spark to manifest it).

There’s a world filled with people walking around with their heads in a fog, walking around unknowingly disrespecting the planet and everything on it (including themselves). IMO, these are the innocents, I love everyone dearly but I care less about those in the know that do absolutely nothing other than promoting bad news. I don’t see anything positive coming from these people, just their illusion of being something they’re not. I’ve never seen more potential go to waste than in places like this, it baffles the mind how such awareness gets side tracked into a world of obscurity. It’s like people get stuck in the drama, culled and kept away from the very people they claim to care about. We are a species of billions, yet we let a handful of ill minded beings govern our lives into chaos, wtf.

We lost our way…and I suspect if we keep ignoring and pretending our species will face extinction again, just look at what we do and what we don’t do. Our world is jacked up because we allow it to come to this. We always get what we deserve,ALWAYS!! it’s just too bad the majority of us don’t even care enough, you can tell this by all the procrastinating, just look at what people choose to spend their time doing...while making claims of injustice and deceit in the world.

I probably wouldn't push as hard if it weren't for the youn ones. I can't speak for others but It’s sad witnessing newborns/children having to succumb to this nonsense we collectively uphold.… our unrelenting brainwashing, fear, stubbornness, arrogance, egotism, and our fascinations with dealing with fiction while neglecting reality.

We’ve become a species of excuses…the only creature on this whole planet to ever use such a thing before using their god giving abilities,smh. Way too many people don’t even know how disempowered they are. Just look at us and what we do daily….just a waste of perfectly designed God intelligence.
That said, I do thank the almighty for aligning with the few REAL people who are actually willing to make things happen for self and others. You can only do so much just talking about it…

The tptb don't just talk it... they walk it too. And, from the looks of it... they are walking over alot of us. It's time to start the change, change by putting your words into action.

Peace

[Limor Wolf]

Hello Fred Fox, Thank you for the post and thank you for your presence, sadly there is nothing in me right now that can contradict what you wrote in your post, looking around and the view is not pretty. I have a strange journey myself where I am required to walk it alone, Family and children are out of the question in a consious decision and partly from the same reasons you mentioned, people are a consolation to a point and working in the normal slave environment is far from be tempting, the next war is out of the door.

When I am like that, I keep reminding myself it is only a state of mind, and it is essentially all about our mutual state of mind. we are millions who have an impact with all our mighty! surely this riddle of a game has its purpose. I very much identify with the two points you've made, I know that I am on my way out in the very few short years, and it is a relief! yes, Earth can do so much better without the destruction people bring, without the constant games played on its back, but it will be losing the greaest potential that the human race has! and it is much more then we can think and dream about at this current time, it can be reached with the tip of our hands. the situation we are in can not be a lost cause, unless we decide it is, and I urge you to not to, and I will join you with that.

Not F.U.B.A.R!

[Eram]

F.u.b.a.r. ? ... no sir!

We are immortal beings, having a human experience on planet earth.

If humanity doesn't make it, we still get to have other experiences in this Universe and in the end... we ALL make it back to source, because there is nothing 'but' source.
We play a game that in the end, cannot be lost.

Why do I tell this?

This insight allows us to breath freely, without the pressure of doom hanging over our heads.
We still feel the wish to bring humanity over the threshold, but without the 'angst' that contracts our hearts and imagination.

Life here isn't so bad, even with all that is going on right now.
Sure there are many issues that need to be addressed and answered, but in the midst of all that, let's not forget to enjoy this game that we're playing.

This joy will only help us to find those answers!

[conk]

Maybe Sir Attenbourough was right, humans are a plague on the Earth.

[Freed Fox]

Thanks everyone. And please note, this is not a 'poor me' thread, but a 'poor us' situation that is very real. And further, as Bill correctly stated, only the tip of a much larger and interconnected iceberg.




The tptb don't just talk it... they walk it too. And, from the looks of it... they are walking over alot of us. It's time to start the change, change by putting your words into action.

Peace

Indeed, but the question remains as to how. For instance; what do you do?

I of course do my best to exemplify my values with my everyday actions, and that encompasses much more than sitting here chatting with you, 'spreading the bad news'. I respect the nature and the people around me, demonstrate kindness and aim to serve. As you should be aware, this is not ever enough to impact the bigger picture, however unfortunate that is. My personal sphere is very small, but even those who impact their entire (immediate) communities cannot and will not fix the larger issues.

Some here have correctly stated that it is often best to focus on a single issue. Like Ulli suggested, whatever single cause that you might identify with. However when I look at the situation I am at an utter loss to do so, because picking any one thing feels too much to be at the exclusion of everything else. I am not just harping on about everything I find to be objectionable, but everything I would like to see change, as soon as possible. It may also be true than none of these things will change in a single lifetime. So the question also remains, where to start?

The true ideal for me would be to see a unified movement that addresses all of these things, and more. But such a movement simply cannot happen (at least not yet). We've witnessed this in the very division that occurs here. I do not say this to devalue this community or its diverse membership, or even to criticize anyone here in particular. But as we have seen, some of these differences hound even us, the 'more aware'. Don't let the terminology I've used (like 'sheeple') fool you into thinking that I find myself somehow superior. I don't; not to anyone here, or out there in general. However I must also admit that I am superior to some, those who directly propagate these injustices, knowingly, with the power to do something about it. The murders, rapists, hatemongers who do undeniably exist. They could elevate themselves to our level here and beyond, but do not.

The disempowerment of the common man is more than significant. And there may be a small number of movements that deal with certain specific issues out there... while they are admirable and 'walking the walk', their progress is either very minimal or not yet readily apparent. When I deliberate on these facts of life and seek ways in which I can bring about action, it is as I said before; what I want is a real big-picture movement. I am skeptical that any substantial and long-term change can occur without a systematic approach.

I know; I can't give in. I can't surrender to inaction or despair. But, at least for the time being, I can't find the way forward. Not yet. Perhaps it does just need more time.

Thanks again, all.

[christian]

Heavy problems indeed. We need radical solutions. And that has nothing to do with violence. Radical comes from Latin radix and means root. We gotta go to the root of things and not fiddle around with superficialities, not get lost in sideshows, but commit vigilantly to honor and decency! We live in a totally messed up world, it's really time to shine light vigorously, no more pussyfooting, we are in a serious mess! Let me re-post my Wake-Up Call (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55031-Wake-Up-Call-2013-How-To-Overcome-The-New-World-Order-) here:

The systems that hold humanity in a stranglehold are getting more and more bizarre and unreal.

We are at a fork in the road, and whoever knows that and is still hesitant or acting halfheartedly, will have to regret it later.

Poverty is rising, wars are expanding, but without a doubt, the shaping of the world of tomorrow lies in our hands today.

The current debt of the world cannot be paid back, could not have been paid back since a very long time. It is a mathematic impossibility based on the currently applied system of money creation.

In the biggest wars of the last 100 years, all sides were financed by the same bankers; the Nazis, the Allied Forces, the NATO, the terrorists.

And although this is easily verifiable today, we still allow ourselves to be abused by psychopaths in this wicked game. Why do we give in to that?

You all know why. It’s due to a lack of confidence, a lack of responsibility, a lack of consciousness. It’s the idea that we cannot really change anything, it’s the fright at one’s own courage. It’s the fear of loosing one’s apparent security within the system, it’s the fear for one’s very life.

But if you do not stand up for your freedom, you will never truly have a life. I will not let the calls of my immortal soul wither away unheard, not for temporary worldy amenities, nor anything else.

Find the fear (http://ascension101.com/en/ascension-tools/33-ascension-tools/105-fear-processing-exercise.html) within yourself, face it head-on, and then release it. Discover and utilize your true creative potential, and do not believe those who want to make you deny its very existence.

Life is a great mystery, waiting to be explored, from the vastness of the universe to the depths of the human soul.

When I look at my fellow human, I do not only see flesh and blood, but also an aura of energy (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_ethericenergy.htm) that surrounds and imbues every single one of us.

I cannot convince of this fact, nor of the immortality of the soul. That has to be substantiated individually. I did learn those things on my journey through life. And what I want from you, is that you truly set off on your journey. And I will do what I can to support you on that.

And I also want you to stand by your fellow men on their journeys, and honor the struggles and the challenges that everybody encounters on his way. Be a pillar and a catalyst for others to rise and regain their dignity.

Do not try to mold people, but help them remember the fact that infinite potential is already innate within everybody, only waiting to be activated.

Sense the energy that infuses you in every moment, when you focus on this intention, and feel how you leave the programming behind that made us all run in circles for so long.

If you’re of the opinion that you surpass others in your understanding or abilities, reach out to them. And don’t be offended, if your help is rejected. Respect the free will of your fellow men, and use your free will wisely. For if you cannot do that, you are a part of the problem, not a part of the solution.

No dogma, no ideology, no political party. Simply the pure passion for life, genuine love. Here and now!

[Curt]

Great post, Christian. That's pretty much a dead on assessment, as far as I'm concerned.

[Adi]

I always struggled with the reality and environment I was born into. From a young age I never did agree with how I was expected to conform to the general societal norms, school, college and teenage conformity, it always felt so false and wrong to me. I struggled allot to fit into this world, struggled with concepts of life, money, education, leaders and hierarchies, I just did NOT get it, existence as a human on Earth, as I new it seemed to be in a very big MESS. Until I found others who shared the same feelings, it seemed I was the only one, the only one stranded on this god for saken planet, for witch I did not have a notion of how to configure into. Things changed, I understood humanity was in trouble, I only came to this conclusion a few years ago when I had my awakening, since then things are allot clearer to me, I understand now, and for this, I am able to understand my little part in the great scheme of things.

Humanity is in an ocean of a great soap opera, but boy is it one hell of a journey, and one of the toughest training courses I believe my soul may have ever took part in.

Adi

[Spiral]

Why are we all here and whats it all for and why is it so hard and why are they so mean etc

Well its not easy, and yes its lonely, very lonely, and its hard, very hard.

But its all about consciousness, if we weren't here this rock would be just dust, as it would serve NO purpose.

The likes of Attenborough are perverse & have an agenda....

If the world is like it is its because we (as humanity as a whole) need it to be like this, if we have psychopaths running every thing its because we need it to be like this..... to drive us to greater consciousness for the simple reason that we are very lazy.

The sin of Sloth is to do with this, its nothing to do with the protestant work ethic !

Death & pain are transitory and transformative, and are part & parcel of existence, and to see them otherwise is not to see the larger picture.

All is well

[Peace of Mind]

Thanks everyone. And please note, this is not a 'poor me' thread, but a 'poor us' situation that is very real. And further, as Bill correctly stated, only the tip of a much larger and interconnected iceberg.




The tptb don't just talk it... they walk it too. And, from the looks of it... they are walking over alot of us. It's time to start the change, change by putting your words into action.

Peace

Indeed, but the question remains as to how. For instance; what do you do?

I of course do my best to exemplify my values with my everyday actions, and that encompasses much more than sitting here chatting with you, 'spreading the bad news'. I respect the nature and the people around me, demonstrate kindness and aim to serve. As you should be aware, this is not ever enough to impact the bigger picture, however unfortunate that is. My personal sphere is very small, but even those who impact their entire (immediate) communities cannot and will not fix the larger issues.

Some here have correctly stated that it is often best to focus on a single issue. Like Ulli suggested, whatever single cause that you might identify with. However when I look at the situation I am at an utter loss to do so, because picking any one thing feels too much to be at the exclusion of everything else. I am not just harping on about everything I find to be objectionable, but everything I would like to see change, as soon as possible. It may also be true than none of these things will change in a single lifetime. So the question also remains, where to start?

The true ideal for me would be to see a unified movement that addresses all of these things, and more. But such a movement simply cannot happen (at least not yet). We've witnessed this in the very division that occurs here. I do not say this to devalue this community or its diverse membership, or even to criticize anyone here in particular. But as we have seen, some of these differences hound even us, the 'more aware'. Don't let the terminology I've used (like 'sheeple') fool you into thinking that I find myself somehow superior. I don't; not to anyone here, or out there in general. However I must also admit that I am superior to some, those who directly propagate these injustices, knowingly, with the power to do something about it. The murders, rapists, hatemongers who do undeniably exist. They could elevate themselves to our level here and beyond, but do not.

The disempowerment of the common man is more than significant. And there may be a small number of movements that deal with certain specific issues out there... while they are admirable and 'walking the walk', their progress is either very minimal or not yet readily apparent. When I deliberate on these facts of life and seek ways in which I can bring about action, it is as I said before; what I want is a real big-picture movement. I am skeptical that any substantial and long-term change can occur without a systematic approach.

I know; I can't give in. I can't surrender to inaction or despair. But, at least for the time being, I can't find the way forward. Not yet. Perhaps it does just need more time.

Thanks again, all.


thanks, for the opportunity to clarify a few things,

I do everything that is necessary to aid others in getting us all in a better position. To name a few… I’m an activist, a consultant, work in law and the media, and have many friends with very strong influences in the entertainment business, military, courts and the streets, yes the streets have many people ready to help create change. Everyone within the governments is not corrupt but we all recognize the top of it is very much that. I was prepared (and still is) to use my resources to aid in disclosure; I also have many lurkers here ready to put it on the line. They/we know the consequences, they/we know (now) why we’re in these positions…but waiting for official undeniable proof for them/us to use in a sacrificial manner is what we are basically doing now, neither they nor I are willing to sacrifice life and/or careers peddling B.S., but, we are beyond ready to do what we can before these positions are refilled and unavailable to the average person.

I was invited here years ago because there was some material that I was interested in helping the public get and understand. Mainly the 2012 hype and suppose evidence that will lead to convicting those that are hurting us (tptb). Most of all my post details what I’m about, I’ve stated numerous times my intentions here. I would like to sit around lollygagging, but I don’t have that luxury because I’m too busy aiding in manifesting a reality that’s fit for all. I see a whole lot of possibilities here, meaning the awareness here has some serious potential in starting a true revolution, in the least a super think tank.

I’m not really condemning all the bad news posted here, but when they are posted without solutions you will create nothing but fear, I’ve point this out consistently, not worrying about if I’m liked or not for doing so. This predicament that we’re in is bigger than me or any one person...I care not what is thought of me but care more what is thought about us.

At one time (years ago) this place was on the verge of being something very special, people basically posted the same kind of stuff… but they also posted potential solutions, they build on the ideas and hardly let a thread end in doom and gloom, people were actually solving problems…at least in thought/ideas.
Now people are calling themselves “Avalonians”(nothing wrong with that)…but in my mind…the way this is spoken around here is like people are actually doing something to make the world better. But what we really have is a bunch of hype and unconfirmed material that seems to be picked from other sites trash bins and dumped here. Too many threads go to waste, too many people displaying fear to the point that they look at almost everything as a conspiracy, the paranoia here as risen off the charts.

The big picture moment comes when you figure out who you are, regain your powers, remove the fears and fit yourself within that big picture. Only you can figure out your purpose here. If you want something done you have to act on it, if you have doubts and fears then you have to get rid of that hindrance immediately. To keep it, is to bring it into your life. The mainstream news is known for this; they fill you up with fear and disempowerment, so much that it weakens you and leave you idle, afraid to move. You took their hype and made it your own….even when the majority of our lives are filled with blessings. I mean,…How many people actually are going through all that drama they see being peddled in the news? Most of us don’t know it exist until someone posts it. This is propaganda; a mind set is being fashioned through deceptions. I refuse to entertain something that isn’t confirmed, I’m not going to give my energy to those ideas, because it a complete waste to what I’m attempting to do. I’ve yet to see anything important come out of any of it…other than my beloved people becoming desensitized, careless, and nonexistent.
With the people I see around here, we can easily solve all our problems here. For starters, no thread laced in fear should end without a solution; every thread should at least some people making attempts at solving the issues. A problem cannot exist without a remedy. I think the main issue is people are/have become too afraid, their posts reminds me of a deer in headlights. They seem stunned, yet unphased…almost unhuman like.

This is not what we came here to do,(be it the forum or life in general), we are the examples and there is a world primed and waiting for us to make our moves….so they can make theirs. Everyone has a part to play. You/we/us can’t say it’s a hopeless cause if you/we/us have yet to do anything about it. That’s just a slap in the faces of those that are actually making those little changes, just imagine if more people actually started to let the perpetrators know how they feel by their actions…on second thought, maybe they are with their inactions. Unity in numbers conquers all obstacles. The Governments work for us and it’s time we all know and show this. If not…. than our demise is warranted and no one is inexcusable, it may not be your fault if you’re ignorant to the matters at hands, but if a handful of corrupt people can flip the world upside down…than a handful of people can flip it back. Never underestimate the power of one person, and never underestimate the movement of many with a cause. Action is how this reality works, it’s always been that way.

thanks, again...

Peace

[gripreaper]

My personal stance is and always has been that if we didn't stand a chance, I'd not have returned to this planet this lifetime. I really mean that. It was an informed choice. Hundreds of thousands (maybe many more than that) of remarkable individuals are also here as well. It's quite an army..

Totally with you and the many who made the same choice to come here during this time to ensure the dream continues. I stand shoulder to shoulder with all of us, who made this choice.

[sandy]

Thank you for your wonderful post Peace of Mind,

I'm conscious every moment to be a creator and not a victim and this is what you post depicts, thank you :)




Thanks everyone. And please note, this is not a 'poor me' thread, but a 'poor us' situation that is very real. And further, as Bill correctly stated, only the tip of a much larger and interconnected iceberg.




The tptb don't just talk it... they walk it too. And, from the looks of it... they are walking over alot of us. It's time to start the change, change by putting your words into action.

Peace

Indeed, but the question remains as to how. For instance; what do you do?

I of course do my best to exemplify my values with my everyday actions, and that encompasses much more than sitting here chatting with you, 'spreading the bad news'. I respect the nature and the people around me, demonstrate kindness and aim to serve. As you should be aware, this is not ever enough to impact the bigger picture, however unfortunate that is. My personal sphere is very small, but even those who impact their entire (immediate) communities cannot and will not fix the larger issues.

Some here have correctly stated that it is often best to focus on a single issue. Like Ulli suggested, whatever single cause that you might identify with. However when I look at the situation I am at an utter loss to do so, because picking any one thing feels too much to be at the exclusion of everything else. I am not just harping on about everything I find to be objectionable, but everything I would like to see change, as soon as possible. It may also be true than none of these things will change in a single lifetime. So the question also remains, where to start?

The true ideal for me would be to see a unified movement that addresses all of these things, and more. But such a movement simply cannot happen (at least not yet). We've witnessed this in the very division that occurs here. I do not say this to devalue this community or its diverse membership, or even to criticize anyone here in particular. But as we have seen, some of these differences hound even us, the 'more aware'. Don't let the terminology I've used (like 'sheeple') fool you into thinking that I find myself somehow superior. I don't; not to anyone here, or out there in general. However I must also admit that I am superior to some, those who directly propagate these injustices, knowingly, with the power to do something about it. The murders, rapists, hatemongers who do undeniably exist. They could elevate themselves to our level here and beyond, but do not.

The disempowerment of the common man is more than significant. And there may be a small number of movements that deal with certain specific issues out there... while they are admirable and 'walking the walk', their progress is either very minimal or not yet readily apparent. When I deliberate on these facts of life and seek ways in which I can bring about action, it is as I said before; what I want is a real big-picture movement. I am skeptical that any substantial and long-term change can occur without a systematic approach.

I know; I can't give in. I can't surrender to inaction or despair. But, at least for the time being, I can't find the way forward. Not yet. Perhaps it does just need more time.

Thanks again, all.


thanks, for the opportunity to clarify a few things,

I do everything that is necessary to aid others in getting us all in a better position. To name a few… I’m an activist, a consultant, work in law and the media, and have many friends with very strong influences in the entertainment business, military, courts and the streets, yes the streets have many people ready to help create change. Everyone within the governments is not corrupt but we all recognize the top of it is very much that. I was prepared (and still is) to use my resources to aid in disclosure; I also have many lurkers here ready to put it on the line. They/we know the consequences, they/we know (now) why we’re in these positions…but waiting for official undeniable proof for them/us to use in a sacrificial manner is what we are basically doing now, neither they nor I are willing to sacrifice life and/or careers peddling B.S., but, we are beyond ready to do what we can before these positions are refilled and unavailable to the average person.

I was invited here years ago because there was some material that I was interested in helping the public get and understand. Mainly the 2012 hype and suppose evidence that will lead to convicting those that are hurting us (tptb). Most of all my post details what I’m about, I’ve stated numerous times my intentions here. I would like to sit around lollygagging, but I don’t have that luxury because I’m too busy aiding in manifesting a reality that’s fit for all. I see a whole lot of possibilities here, meaning the awareness here has some serious potential in starting a true revolution, in the least a super think tank.

I’m not really condemning all the bad news posted here, but when they are posted without solutions you will create nothing but fear, I’ve point this out consistently, not worrying about if I’m liked or not for doing so. This predicament that we’re in is bigger than me or any one person...I care not what is thought of me but care more what is thought about us.

At one time (years ago) this place was on the verge of being something very special, people basically posted the same kind of stuff… but they also posted potential solutions, they build on the ideas and hardly let a thread end in doom and gloom, people were actually solving problems…at least in thought/ideas.
Now people are calling themselves “Avalonians”(nothing wrong with that)…but in my mind…the way this is spoken around here is like people are actually doing something to make the world better. But what we really have is a bunch of hype and unconfirmed material that seems to be picked from other sites trash bins and dumped here. Too many threads go to waste, too many people displaying fear to the point that they look at almost everything as a conspiracy, the paranoia here as risen off the charts.

The big picture moment comes when you figure out who you are, regain your powers, remove the fears and fit yourself within that big picture. Only you can figure out your purpose here. If you want something done you have to act on it, if you have doubts and fears then you have to get rid of that hindrance immediately. To keep it, is to bring it into your life. The mainstream news is known for this; they fill you up with fear and disempowerment, so much that it weakens you and leave you idle, afraid to move. You took their hype and made it your own….even when the majority of our lives are filled with blessings. I mean,…How many people actually are going through all that drama they see being peddled in the news? Most of us don’t know it exist until someone posts it. This is propaganda; a mind set is being fashioned through deceptions. I refuse to entertain something that isn’t confirmed, I’m not going to give my energy to those ideas, because it a complete waste to what I’m attempting to do. I’ve yet to see anything important come out of any of it…other than my beloved people becoming desensitized, careless, and nonexistent.
With the people I see around here, we can easily solve all our problems here. For starters, no thread laced in fear should end without a solution; every thread should at least some people making attempts at solving the issues. A problem cannot exist without a remedy. I think the main issue is people are/have become too afraid, their posts reminds me of a deer in headlights. They seem stunned, yet unphased…almost unhuman like.

This is not what we came here to do,(be it the forum or life in general), we are the examples and there is a world primed and waiting for us to make our moves….so they can make theirs. Everyone has a part to play. You/we/us can’t say it’s a hopeless cause if you/we/us have yet to do anything about it. That’s just a slap in the faces of those that are actually making those little changes, just imagine if more people actually started to let the perpetrators know how they feel by their actions…on second thought, maybe they are with their inactions. Unity in numbers conquers all obstacles. The Governments work for us and it’s time we all know and show this. If not…. than our demise is warranted and no one is inexcusable, it may not be your fault if you’re ignorant to the matters at hands, but if a handful of corrupt people can flip the world upside down…than a handful of people can flip it back. Never underestimate the power of one person, and never underestimate the movement of many with a cause. Action is how this reality works, it’s always been that way.

thanks, again...

Peace

[scanner]

We all manifest this reality , stop manifesting the bad and start manifesting utopia . Start with this , free energy for all .

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[T Smith]

Agriculture

People in California VOTE AGAINST labeling GMO food products! THEY DON'T EVEN WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE EATING!



This is just a side observation -- I'm not so sure the people in California voted against labeling GMO food products. In fact, I'm fairly confident they voted for it... but what does a true democratic initiative have anything to do with anything? (when, as you rightly observe, Monsanto owns and controls virtually everything, including fair elections ???).... Not that I disagree with your underlying implication of a fatal dose of apathy afflicting the masses. The people's voice means very little, however, until we accept that the electoral process itself and the very channels we employ to reign in the powers that be are controlled by them. Herein is my understanding of the true nature of the people's apathy. Why has nobody questioned or challenged the bogus election results?

[T Smith]

Hey FF,

You I woke up this morning lonely; I woke up this morning tired, indifferent, and worn down. Every issue in your OP, among others, has been weighing heavy on the heart, mind and body. This is very challenging time, and indeed can be a very lonely experience watching so many people get sucked up by the machine.

I don't know why today was especially tough; it just was. Which is probably why I gravitated to your thread in the first place. But then after reading Bill Ryan's post:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55213-F.u.b.a.r.&p=629271&viewfull=1#post629271

I felt invigorated; he reminded me of something I already know but very often forget. He is absolutely right. I'm here, with you, my friend, and among many others on this forum and elsewhere, to help turn this ship around. This is a life-long mission, but I firmly believe is not a futile mission, grim as the facts may be. When I explore deep down into remembering why I came here, I feel nothing but empowered when remembering what it is I am here to do. I don't always know exactly what it is I need to do, but I do know I need to press on by ever focusing on doing something.

[Selene]

Peace of Mind, you very wisely said:


The big picture moment comes when you figure out who you are, regain your powers, remove the fears and fit yourself within that big picture. Only you can figure out your purpose here. If you want something done you have to act on it, if you have doubts and fears then you have to get rid of that hindrance immediately. To keep it, is to bring it into your life….<snip> ….Everyone has a part to play. You/we/us can’t say it’s a hopeless cause if you/we/us have yet to do anything about it. That’s just a slap in the faces of those that are actually making those little changes, just imagine if more people actually started to let the perpetrators know how they feel by their actions…on second thought, maybe they are with their inactions. Unity in numbers conquers all obstacles. The Governments work for us and it’s time we all know and show this. If not…. than our demise is warranted and no one is inexcusable,

So how do you act on your needs/perceptions? This is an important question for all of us.

The best answer – and it is deeper than it looks – is from Kerry Cassidy: "Just do whatever you can.”

It’s that simple – and that complex. What can you do, right now? Answer an email? Hug a child? Write a post? Smile at a stranger? Start a club? Go into hibernation? Only you know what you need to do next. And the “next step” will follow from the one – however small - that you have taken.

But your individual action is important and meaningful. It is relevant and purposeful. It does move the whole toward the whole.

Don’t be afraid. Act, as you are called to do. Do that little thing. We cannot know where the greater path leads – only that the mountaintop is in the distance.

Cheers,

Selene

[markpierre]

It's 5 A.M. here, I must have just woken up lonely. I hate to be a pessimist, but there are two real conclusions I can make here.

1.) I would take great comfort in knowing that I'm on my way out, and see no point whatsoever to start a family (so I can pass these problems on to another generation) or to invest my time finding a solution to any of the above (as money is the only power people respect anymore, along with their personal comfort. Corporations will crush any solution that rears its head and the sheeple will cling to what is 'normal').

2.) Take the human race out of the equation, and suddenly Planet Earth has no more problems that she can't fix herself. Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING gets along better without us.

You're not being pessimistic, not to say that you couldn't be. This OP is just realistic.

And so looking at it from enough distance to recognize the hopeless nature of the whole lot, indicates that there must be another way. Something unseen.
Something entirely different going on here. That wouldn't be a consolation without the suggestion that you can and will grow into that.
The evidence for your recovery from insanity (the way we've all participated with the world) is very strong.
You're a communicator. You're really clear in how you express what you're thinking. Just keep doing that.
Never mind the content, because good or bad or correct or deluded, it will change as you do.
Families and relationships are for learning. Don't avoid learning for fear of what you might learn. It won't be that it's wrong to be human in every way.

"On my way out" is a loaded statement. Yes, one way or another, but not until it's time. Physical departure or 'awakening', you might not notice either.

Not very long ago I had to make a definitive decision whether or not I was going to continue on in this world. I chose to stay. But many times since then,
I've felt as though I regretted it. Tell you what. I'll hang in here if you will.

Thanks for that OP. You keep me on the razors edge. I can fall one direction into despair and let the whole juggernaut of madness crush me, or I can fall the other direction into transcendence.
If I could transcend and just be gone, then fine. But it doesn't work that way. I walk however unsteadily directly into and through the illusion. I made it. I have to see for myself that
it isn't real.

[Freed Fox]

I want to say thanks again guys.

As I mentioned in the OP, I woke up this morning with this post practically already written, from seemingly nowhere. It was stuck in my head and seemed to be relentlessly nagging. I admit that I wrote it very much in the moment, but like anyone, I appreciate the validation that I'm not just losing it. ;)

More than that, this has served for me as a timely reminder that we really are not alone, or ever rendered truly powerless, no matter how much evidence might suggest to the contrary.

I made sure to set time aside to meditate today, and in that silence I found further affirmation... I don't know what the answers are yet, exactly, but I know they are there, and they can be found.

All the best

[Tesseract]

And if meditation fails;

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