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Karen
28th March 2010, 07:10
The tech guys are having trouble tracking down the cause of periodic slowness in forum response - Both PA1 and PA2.

Please post your thoughts on the speed.
They'd like to get a better idea of who this is affecting.

Post the time (with time zone) and the link you had trouble accessing.

Post if you got this message after waiting a long time.
"The page you are looking for is temporarily unavailable.Please try again later.

Vidya Moksha
28th March 2010, 08:17
all day here in new zealand, but server busy.. ie try again later... 2110 local time back on at 2114

Ross
28th March 2010, 08:38
Terribly slow here in Australia...

Vidya Moksha
28th March 2010, 08:44
you sure u want all these?
kicked me out again at 2127, back on at 2142, new zealand time

Swanny
28th March 2010, 08:52
I get it all the time whether it's for a post or PM makes no difference.
I think we should change servers

justpeter
28th March 2010, 09:05
I got that message here in the UK a few minutes ago - 10:01 British Summer Time, 9:01 GMT. I was in one of Bill Ryan's threads and I clicked on the "Project Avalon" link near the top of the page.

Swanny
28th March 2010, 09:05
It just happened at 10 am while I was trying to view a profile but I couldn't post in here because the forum had crashed :p

justpeter
28th March 2010, 09:16
Same again - 10:13 BST

PINEAL-PILOT-IN MERKABAH
28th March 2010, 09:18
i just tried to post a reply and it said please try again in 25 seconds and then took ages for the reply to turn up. uk

samvado
28th March 2010, 10:54
sometimes unbearably slow. like 2 minutes before a msg is posted. sometimes medium speed (like 10-20 seconds) never fast like other forums I know. reporting from spain.

ArtyCarl
28th March 2010, 12:05
I am in the UK on a mega-fast connection and there is a small delay in posting but not irritatingly slow for me.

tone3jaguar
28th March 2010, 13:08
Pages load fine, but messages stall while posting. Has to be related to the database on the server.

rhythm
28th March 2010, 13:19
Hi Karen lots of probs here for me in the uk /
so slow a lot of the time i just cant be botherd to stay here (shame )
hmmm ... hope it gets sorted .. soon ..
thank for all you guys do ...xxx

pilgrimspirit
28th March 2010, 13:23
pages very slow in loading and when posting, its so slow the messages are lost and not posted. I get an error page instead. Please fix!

Swanny
28th March 2010, 13:34
Have noticed that youtube vids don't always show. I know it's there but sometimes it's just a black box other times nothing at all. :confused:

Most of the time it's just very slow
I'm on 10mb cable

Swanny
28th March 2010, 13:37
Have noticed that youtube vids don't always show. I know it's there but sometimes it's just a black box other times nothing at all. :confused:

Most of the time it's just very slow
I'm on 10mb cable


Grr just tried to post this and got

The page you are looking for is temporarily unavailable.
Please try again later.
:rolleyes:


Double posted then as was trying to send but it wasn't going through or so I thought :)

Swanny
28th March 2010, 14:02
Ok here's a new one
When I try to reply to the hobbit thread I get this message



Your submission could not be processed because the token has expired.

Please push the back button and reload the previous window.
Project Avalon Community Forum

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?548-Hobbit-House-Homestead

two-R-one
28th March 2010, 14:36
very slow response to any link.. and got the message "The page you are looking for is temporarily unavailable.Please try again later." 10:30am est

google browser almost always say "waiting for projectavalon.net" location:northeast USA

Gita
28th March 2010, 14:46
sooooo slooooow!

Double posts also!!

Can't always reply with quotes - don't seem to like it!

Page not available half the time!!

...

SteveX
28th March 2010, 15:53
Sometimes when using a direct link to the forum from favourites it's slow or hangs. If I go to Camelot home page and go to Avalon forum PA1 it does connect. Then I can use the direct link when I'm in PA1. When here I find that responding with quotes hardly ever works. I mean it's that slow that it gives the message “bugger off and try later.” I have found that if I want to reply with quotes it's best to right click that and open in new window.....it works every time that way.

Wyzyrd
28th March 2010, 17:06
I had to try four times to reply to this thread - "The page you are looking for is temporarily unavailable.Please try again later."

It takes a minute or more each time I click a thread, and more than half the time I get the "The page you are looking for is temporarily unavailable.Please try again later."

I am in Central Standard Time zone in USA

:nerd:

Swanny
28th March 2010, 17:09
It's getting worst. 50/50 whether a post will open or not.
It has to be the server, both forums are hosted at the same place and both have the same problem.
Time to move

stardustaquarion
28th March 2010, 17:20
Forum very slow, many times it comes with the message that the page it is too busy "please come back later"

Love

samvado
28th March 2010, 17:27
it seems to get worse in the evenings (thats GMT local time)

rosie
28th March 2010, 18:01
Very slow here also, southern ont. Sunday afternoon

rifraf
28th March 2010, 18:20
very slow here as well, MidWest, USA. Clicking a topic is 50/50 and takes a few minutes to show the posts within.

xbusymom
28th March 2010, 21:16
4:04 central time... trying to subscribe to a thread

Curative
28th March 2010, 21:59
]Warning: If the server runs much slower I fear for the stability of our current space time continuum. message ends.

Would it help to close PA1 early?

Wood
28th March 2010, 23:30
It has been slow for the last hour at least (see the time of the post), with frequent white screens and continous delays. It seems it is better right now.

Tamara
29th March 2010, 04:36
It's pitifully slow here in Australia. I would estimate about 75 - 80 percent of the time the link I click, gives me that temporarily unavailable message after about 2 mins of hanging. I've been here almost full time for 2 days and have hardly gotten through many threads. Some that I want to respond to take soooooooo long to work and take too many attempts that I end up giving up on it all. Please FIX before we all die of boredom!

harry_cdn
29th March 2010, 04:50
21:50 PST

1 TenGigabitEthernet0-12-0-2.exi-core1.Melbourne.telstra.net (203.50.80.1) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
2 Bundle-Pos3.chw-core2.Sydney.telstra.net (203.50.11.14) 16 msec 12 msec 16 msec
3 Bundle-Ether1.oxf-gw2.Sydney.telstra.net (203.50.6.90) 16 msec 12 msec 16 msec
4 TenGigabitEthernet6-0.sydo-core01.Sydney.reach.com (203.50.13.38) 16 msec 16 msec 16 msec
5 i-3-1-0.sydp-core02.bi.reach.com (202.84.144.249) 16 msec 12 msec 16 msec
6 i-14-0-0.wil-core02.bx.reach.com (202.84.140.237) 172 msec 168 msec 172 msec
7 i-1-2.tlot03.bi.reach.com (202.84.251.238) 168 msec 168 msec 168 msec
8 pccwglobal-peer.tlot03.pr.reach.com (134.159.62.194) 172 msec 168 msec 172 msec
9 webnx.ge9-27.br01.lax05.pccwbtn.net (63.218.42.194) 168 msec 168 msec 172 msec
10 67-220-192-101.hosted.static.webnx.com (67.220.192.101) 168 msec 168 msec 168 msec
11 camelotextra.kwdservices.com (216.18.197.203) 172 msec 168 msec 172 msec

harry_cdn
29th March 2010, 04:54
Traceroute to projectavalon.net from jfk-engr-01.inet.qwest.net

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


traceroute to projectavalon.net (216.18.197.203), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 jfk-svcs-01 (205.171.30.193) 0.691 ms 0.390 ms 0.322 ms
2 jfk-core-02 (205.171.30.69) 0.403 ms 0.341 ms 0.327 ms
3 jfk-brdr-03 (205.171.30.6) 198.305 ms 212.129 ms 2.386 ms
4 63.146.26.114 (63.146.26.114) 0.579 ms 0.461 ms 0.424 ms
5 webnx.ge9-27.br01.lax05.pccwbtn.net (63.218.42.194) 72.935 ms 72.918 ms 72.857 ms
6 67-220-192-101.hosted.static.webnx.com (67.220.192.101) 73.190 ms 73.236 ms 73.023 ms
7 camelotextra.kwdservices.com (216.18.197.203) 73.002 ms 73.057 ms 73.145 ms

harry_cdn
29th March 2010, 05:01
217.239.38.246 is from Germany(DE) in region Western Europe


traceroute to projectavalon.net (216.18.197.203), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 217.239.38.246 2.485 ms 1.436 ms 1.435 ms
2 217.239.40.181 25.772 ms 25.697 ms 25.670 ms
3 ge4-2.br02.frf02.pccwbtn.net (63.218.15.89) 25.915 ms 25.789 ms 26.193 ms
4 webnx.ge9-27.br01.lax05.pccwbtn.net (63.218.42.194) 161.153 ms 161.127 ms 160.969 ms
5 67-220-192-101.hosted.static.webnx.com (67.220.192.101) 160.966 ms 160.965 ms 161.213 ms
6 camelotextra.kwdservices.com (216.18.197.203) 160.962 ms 161.085 ms 161.082 ms

Swanny
29th March 2010, 08:26
Any news???
Something needs to be done soon or the forum will die :(

steve_a
29th March 2010, 08:28
Hi Everyone,

Slow forum from this end also. Check quality of hosting company... shared servers can be a b****!

Best regards,

Steve

Swanny
29th March 2010, 08:38
Any news???
Something needs to be done soon or the forum will die :(

Swanny
29th March 2010, 08:56
The page you are looking for is temporarily unavailable.
Please try again in 2012.

:clock:

Majorion
29th March 2010, 09:05
Check quality of hosting company... shared servers can be a b****!
I agree with both Steve and Swanny. This issue seems to be rooted with the hosting service / server, it would be best to change if possible. I also get extreme slow downs and lag quite often.

Thanks,

iceman
29th March 2010, 12:59
this forum has given me nothing but problems since friday exstreamly slow
most of time i can't even log on, and if i do get on trying to navigate through the
forum is a nightmare. please do something soon.
peace
iceman

yiolas
29th March 2010, 13:18
The page you are looking for is temporarily unavailable.
Please try again in 2012.

:clock:

This is the same message I've been getting everytime I try to go from one page to another within the forum. I have to refresh my explorer to finally get in.

mike1414
29th March 2010, 13:24
This is the same message I've been getting everytime I try to go from one page to another within the forum. I have to refresh my explorer to finally get in.

add moi to the list too...

peace always
mike

ExHaLaTiON
29th March 2010, 13:25
yupp, slow motion here too. i got time to kill though...

Fredkc
29th March 2010, 13:33
Yes, the forum's database server needs tweeking.

A few deep breaths would be helpful, though.
We are at the end of a calendar month. The person who normally stays on top of it is moving.
Real Life can be quite an interruption, you know, and moving is guaranteed to give you the crazies.

dAkapacity
29th March 2010, 13:34
Forum quality
Belgium: 8 points

Forum speed:
Belgium: 1 points

Dada,
xxdA.

iceman
29th March 2010, 14:21
got boot off just after posting in his thread 9:05am
couldn't log back in till 10:16am
peace
iceman

harry_cdn
29th March 2010, 15:46
Another area that may need reviewing is the my.cnf file. Due to the size of the database it may need tweaking for concurrent connections.

paul1972
29th March 2010, 16:17
Is slow on and off here in The Netherlands

Lucky I am not a quick reader and my typing is even slower...

Freedom
29th March 2010, 16:47
Very slow...here in the central standard time zone
in the usa....
sometimes it throws up the error message and other times it just stalls

none the less it is fusterating cause I am so spoiled...maybe this is a test...
what are we going to do should the whole system go down....
I think I will have withdrawal symptoms and might have to
take up smoking....egads

Astra
29th March 2010, 16:58
It has been very slow for me as well ... when tried to leave a visitor message today – it turn out to be a double post

Curative
29th March 2010, 17:36
Slight improvement noted, not full speed yet, but an improvement none the less. 18:30 GMT

5thElement
29th March 2010, 17:52
:clock:West coast US - 10:50 am PDT. Slooooooooow as molasses here when trying to go from page to page.

5th

starsmoonmtns
29th March 2010, 18:29
Slow to stalling here in N W states! everypage... lots of timeouts...
Peace

mgray
30th March 2010, 05:00
Took 15 mins to load site and post to this thread. Can only reach PA through dns number. PA.net bookmark will not load page. Hope this gets through.

Swami
30th March 2010, 08:59
Two hours to log in...........

Swami
30th March 2010, 09:09
Two hours to log in...........

Swami
30th March 2010, 09:09
Two hours to log in...........

One hour to post this message...

Swami
30th March 2010, 09:51
Two hours to log in...........

One hour to post this message...

Lucid Jia
30th March 2010, 10:04
So slow here. Giving up now :(

Namaste.

Rocky_Shorz
31st March 2010, 03:11
wow it's back and running normal speeds again, my compliments to the network techs for getting it right...


Well it was running good until I clicked post... thought I was going to time out...

but it did post and didn't come up with the duplicate post message so getting closer

Micjer
31st March 2010, 03:24
Seems almost normal tonight here in Canada.

iceman
31st March 2010, 03:30
nice to see up and running again
peace
iceman

MargueriteBee
31st March 2010, 03:30
I haven't been able to log on the forum for two days. What happened?

Shairia
31st March 2010, 03:35
It was almost 3 days for me?

mgray
31st March 2010, 04:15
Three days here in the US east coast. Twice able to sneak through using the DNS number, but was soon thwarted with error message.

Glad it's back.

Ross
31st March 2010, 04:41
Hi all,

I will get admin to make a statement as to what happened, Im no techie but know that the sever ppls have reloaded some software and had to close the forum yesterday to do this. I am also like you, wanting to know what happened....? at least it seems fine now

Peace

ExHaLaTiON
31st March 2010, 05:12
yupp, things seem to have gotten a lil better but she still laggs a bit now and then. I know somebody on here missed me.... hehe...

3optic
31st March 2010, 05:26
was out almost 2 days. Seems fine now.

justpeter
31st March 2010, 07:15
Seems to be working today in the UK. Yesterday it seemed to be down all day.

Swanny
31st March 2010, 08:40
What a fuss :rolleyes:

morguana
31st March 2010, 09:11
Hi all,

I will get admin to make a statement as to what happened, Im no techie but know that the sever ppls have reloaded some software and had to close the forum yesterday to do this. I am also like you, wanting to know what happened....? at least it seems fine now

Peace

you and me both ross, getting so fed up with on/off treacly forum! ggrrrrrr
love m x

SteveX
31st March 2010, 09:24
2 days no connection and PA1 today is running like a slug.

Daft Ada
31st March 2010, 10:55
Same for me SteveX, we haven't been able to get on any of the camelot or Avalon forums for two days either.

Terra
31st March 2010, 12:01
Please delete, double post...

Terra
31st March 2010, 12:03
Same here in the UK. Its been very slow to update pages and has been timing out since Saturday here. Yesterday and last night/early hours of the morning no connection at all. Seems to be ok now, just a bit slow on page updates still.

two-R-one
31st March 2010, 12:22
wasn't able to load the site for two days.. seems fine now.. one of my friends with Kapersky anti virus tried to log on yesterday and got a malware warning and wasn't able to load the site and had a freeze-up.. I'm guessing there was a virus of some kind on the server.. hope it wasn't dumping it to everyone.. can we get some clarification on what was found?

haibane
31st March 2010, 12:55
For the past 2 days the forum was out cold on me completely - most of the time the connection timed out (browser er message), on a couple of occasions I'd see bits of the web site, most times unstyled as the connection would time out before the CSS loaded, sometimes the server busy message.

I've got little idea how much actual traffic there currently is, but if both the PA forums AND the web site AND the video streaming are served from the same server (which hasn't been terribly reliable before, either), I'd suggest suspend the video streaming for the time being to ensure at least the forums run, and start moving the vids to YouTube - volunteers might help with re-encoding / splitting them into 10 minutes pieces (all this would take is software like VirtualDub or Avidemux + an Avisynth script, which could be operated by average-computer-literate people without any knowledge of video editing) as a temporary solution, until Bill's director account is up and ready. I'd definitely be willing to help with re-encoding some vids. Besides the quality of post-processing of Bill's new videos was outright ghastly.

How sounds that?

Nenuphar
31st March 2010, 17:53
For 2 days I couldn't view PA1 or PA2 (would get the error message that the page couldn't load). Today, for me, PA2 is working just fine, but PA1 is not (initially could read and post, but am now getting the "page cannot load" message). (BC, Canada)

EDIT: As soon as I posted that, PA2 came to a screeching halt again, and I wasn't able to view the forum ("page cannot load") LOL!

rosie
31st March 2010, 18:46
still slow here, and I loose my sign in within 5 minutes. If I take too long to write up a thread, I find myself having to sign in again,
then, of course I have lost all my thread material, so I do not bother again.

I know the kinks will be worked out, could it be because of a "mirrior" with the other forums?

Swanny
31st March 2010, 19:10
Better than it was but still not fixed. Maybe it's time to call in an expert????

JoshERTW
1st April 2010, 02:46
Got "The page you are looking for is temporarily unavailable.Please try again later." All day yesterday from home and work. All day at work until about 5:00 EST also.

Nagual
1st April 2010, 03:06
Got "The page you are looking for is temporarily unavailable.Please try again later."

same here :frusty:

freespirit
1st April 2010, 11:37
Yesterday was impossible about this time so i gave up.The server was slow to unresponsive. Today its bang on !

justpeter
1st April 2010, 12:57
It's been great for me over the last couple of days but a few minutes ago it dropped out again.

malynda
1st April 2010, 13:59
I have tried off and on for quite a few days to get to PA1 and PA2 via links, bookmarks, inputting the address, inputting the IP address only to have the page appear blank or load over the course of several minutes. I was finally able to log in here today. I sure hope this gets sorted soon. I appreciate all the effort being put into solving the problems. Maybe we should have some sort of email group so that we all get notice when problems are happening so no one worries.

Blacklight43
1st April 2010, 14:06
Today is the first time I have actually been able to get on here in several days. Thank you.

freespirit
1st April 2010, 15:32
this is not fun.i will make this very quick before i time out.please for the love of humanity find that server and smash it

freespirit
1st April 2010, 15:40
Today is the first time I have actually been able to get on here in several days. Thank you.

'I've have logged in and every thing is wonderfull' then i reply to a post spend time composing my post to be told i am not logged in aaaargh !

Tamara
2nd April 2010, 09:29
Any updates on this, mods?

Lily de Cuir
4th April 2010, 01:36
PC portal website is down - been trying for hours, says site not available. 11.35am Australia time, NSW. Happenned yesterday also

Swanny
4th April 2010, 13:26
Any updates on this, mods?

Nope..................... :p

jem284
4th April 2010, 16:59
Happy Easter to everyone!!
I see Camelot productions is still down.
Is there any info on why and when it will be back up?
Have a Blessed day!!

kriya
4th April 2010, 17:04
Happy Easter to everyone!!
I see Camelot productions is still down.
Is there any info on why and when it will be back up?
Have a Blessed day!!

Yes I would like to know too.

I wanted to see if the Bob Dean interview has been posted. Apparently Kerry did a 2 hr interview with him recently where he talks about is own experiences with ETs.

Love,

Kriya

jem284
4th April 2010, 18:21
Hi Kriya
I love your Avatar

Rob Wood
9th April 2010, 06:36
It just happened to me at 11:24pm Pacific time. I clicked on the Future Talk forum and got into the forum OK, but when I clicked on the first thread (about predictions that have come true), it timed out with "The page you are looking for is temporarily unavailable.Please try again later."

Rob


The tech guys are having trouble tracking down the cause of periodic slowness in forum response - Both PA1 and PA2.

Please post your thoughts on the speed.
They'd like to get a better idea of who this is affecting.

Post the time (with time zone) and the link you had trouble accessing.

Post if you got this message after waiting a long time.
"The page you are looking for is temporarily unavailable.Please try again later.

Productivemind
11th April 2010, 04:21
It's 12:20 AM Eastern time, and I've been on the site about an hour. It seems to be very slow, no matter which thread I try to go read or respond to. Thanks for all the great work you guys do.

malynda
12th April 2010, 17:02
12:57pm EDT and I can get in here, PA1, and projectavalon.net (Bill's site). No go for the portal or projectlightwarrior.com. Each day brings a new pattern of Bill/Kerry sites I can or can't get to. One day I can get to only Bill's sites but no forums. Another day I can get to only Kerry's sites but no forums. Then at times I can get nothing at all. Other times, one forum is up, the other is down. My experiential consensus is that I can get to information and forums provided by Bill and Kerry maybe 25% of the time and the most reliable place to find Bill/Kerry info is the Mists of Avalon currently. I really wish these problems could be sorted.

beyondmyctrl
12th April 2010, 18:45
12:57pm EDT and I can get in here, PA1, and projectavalon.net (Bill's site). No go for the portal or projectlightwarrior.com. Each day brings a new pattern of Bill/Kerry sites I can or can't get to. One day I can get to only Bill's sites but no forums. Another day I can get to only Kerry's sites but no forums. Then at times I can get nothing at all. Other times, one forum is up, the other is down. My experiential consensus is that I can get to information and forums provided by Bill and Kerry maybe 25% of the time and the most reliable place to find Bill/Kerry info is the Mists of Avalon currently. I really wish these problems could be sorted.

same here , as of now I haven't been able to log on to the portal for two days, I thought it was just me , it is starting to get pretty annoying , used to be able to log on to PC with no problem ALWAYS...

Swami
12th April 2010, 18:54
Way faster now overhere.....

This morning I couldn't log on. This happens more..........

Tarnus
12th April 2010, 18:58
A couple different things maybe occurring. The timeouts could possibly(more than likely not) be caused by the sites backup cycle. Or from what I have experienced from some of the forum sites I work with is a you maybe running up against a memory issue. I'm not sure if your running a shared, VPS or dedicated environment but you could look at those items. If your running a VPS or dedicated you could look at running the site using eacellerator and or making sure gzip and caching is enabled.

Also on large forums you may find the site index maybe killing you. You might limit the word count in the search to be at least 2 words I've seen sites get taken down do to a search issue.

Just a few suggestions.

If you want to fill me in on your running environment I might be able to help you come up with a solution.

Shairia
13th April 2010, 23:13
7:13PM EST and when I try to go to NEW POSTS I get a blank screen.

TheTruth
13th April 2010, 23:24
00:15 GMT London

Tried to access http://projectavalon.net/forum4/

was given the message - web page not availible

haibane
13th April 2010, 23:28
Right now - getting a blank screen on the New Posts link. The whole thing is generally much slower than usual.

Swami
14th April 2010, 04:18
"New Post" brings blank page
"find all post"-button brings no matches
"find all threads started"- brings no matches

What timing to change servers, I had a small NDE...... :bump2:

Lily de Cuir
14th April 2010, 04:51
This morning, trying to log onto the forum, I got a page '404 Forbidden'......well, I am in Australia....are they messing with the internet already???

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Sorry, typo, it was '403 Forbidden'.

rhythm
14th April 2010, 07:36
newpost blank page here also !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mike1414
14th April 2010, 07:42
"New Post" brings blank page
"find all post"-button brings no matches
"find all threads started"- brings no matches

same here

peace always
mike

lightblue
14th April 2010, 08:28
i have only just re-connected...wonder why so many glitches..

not a very pleasent coincidence yesterday evening - at the same time of avalon going down, my broaband connection went down too..so i phoned up and a recorded message said they are sorry but that the nw2 is experiencing no internet connection....of all the country, all of london - my specific area is off !!!! ... the engineers are working around the clock to fix the problem the message went on..they haven't fixed it yet..i am now using my external 3G device....what can go wrong for so long? i am on cable, which is meant to be more resistent to glitches..beats me .:confused:

blue777
14th April 2010, 08:34
KEEPS ON ASKING FOR MY NAME AND PASSWORD
lol

Nagual
14th April 2010, 09:18
new posts = white page (@ 9:17 am - GMT)

justpeter
14th April 2010, 10:20
I keep being switched from Gaian Night to Avalon Breeze for no apparent reason and I'm also being logged out at times when I'm trying to view a thread.

G.Deluca
14th April 2010, 10:36
sometimes i can't reach the forum and get a blank page,it happened 15 min ago too

Indigo
14th April 2010, 12:06
same here

peace always
mike

ditto for me too

morguana
14th April 2010, 12:30
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1099-Transition-to-New-Infrastructure-Complete&p=9641#post9641
the techs are working on this

jaybee
14th April 2010, 12:34
Right now - getting a blank screen on the New Posts link. The whole thing is generally much slower than usual.


Same for me....slow and blank New Post link.


and just now when I clicked on reply with quote...I was suddenly logged out
and had to log back in to make this post.

jaybee
14th April 2010, 12:48
Now I keep getting logged out...don't know if this post will go through...

edit....obviously it did..!!

Gita
14th April 2010, 15:50
What's up with the new post tab - there doesn't seem to be any today??!!!:confused:

Fredkc
14th April 2010, 16:05
No Gita,
We took a vote last nite and just decided we wouldn't tell you about any of them ;)


Love,
Fred[COLOR="red"]

Gita
14th April 2010, 16:10
Thanks Fred!!:p

http://xcdoj.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/picture1.jpg

:laugh::laugh:

Swami
14th April 2010, 16:26
I have problems posting images & attachements.....
Have to log in after I post something.......

Still high on adrenaline from last night.....

@Fred;
Please......... repair that "new post" button, now I have to search my 'behind' off to find something.......:blah::blah::blah:

Gita
14th April 2010, 16:36
You tell him Swami. Fred's let power go to his head since the Empress made him King Penguin. :rolleyes:

Fredkc
14th April 2010, 16:42
Sorry Swami;
I have no viable theories re. the New Posts button.

Only things that makes sense would be wild guesses on my part.

Fredkc
14th April 2010, 16:46
Penguins aplenty!
http://fredsitelive.com/images/avatars/

anikohu
14th April 2010, 22:31
The -New posts- not working- I have a hard time in the last days to find anything,,. Thank You!

kriya
14th April 2010, 23:10
I keep get logged out:frusty: Something is way wrong at the moment. Please can someone fix it!

Love,

Kriya

jeannacav
14th April 2010, 23:31
I seem to be on today.
Yesterday I was told I gave the wrong passwd and it was my last try. (but it was not)
So, I am glad to know I was not alone.
I hope the fix is easy.
I will try the reply button on my next reply.
So far on one day = 5 or 6 posts I was only able to do a quick reply.

thank you

(love those penguins!)

jeanna

hostingtechs
15th April 2010, 00:51
Have done an overhaul, please report your mileage.

Shairia
15th April 2010, 01:13
I was also getting logged out when I tried to nagivate to any part of the forum or post or PM. However, it still seems a little slow tonight but at least I'm not getting logged off anymore.

hostingtechs
15th April 2010, 01:24
Forums may slow a bit, restoring PA1

folotheflo
26th April 2010, 21:09
i had trouble with the activation, i could not reply without quoting all of gareth's welcome post. i guess there are a few teething problems, i am faithfull all will be well !

Swanny
2nd May 2010, 10:52
It has been really good for a few days :)
But......

Search took 52.79 seconds;

The page you are looking for is temporarily unavailable.
Please try again later.

Gone rubbish again for me

Sunny d
2nd May 2010, 11:18
edit post...............

Sunny d
2nd May 2010, 11:21
I tried for 6 time to reply with a quote from Swanny but its not working for me as well...!

Gita
2nd May 2010, 11:26
Same as Swanny. Slow. Real Slooooooooow!

stardustaquarion
2nd May 2010, 11:30
Same as Gita, soooooooo slooooooooooow !

Wood
2nd May 2010, 11:59
Yes, very slow. The 'new posts' button in particular.

Swanny
2nd May 2010, 12:06
Just restarted pc and ran a cleaner.
Much quicker now search only took 29.37 seconds :p

Gita
2nd May 2010, 12:41
Just restarted pc and ran a cleaner.
Much quicker now search only took 29.37 seconds :p

I didn't have to do any of that and it's much quicker anyway! :p

bluestflame
2nd May 2010, 13:17
took me about 16 seconds , normally quicker ~☼~

jimmer
2nd May 2010, 13:24
slow here in Arizona (6:22 am mt)

lots of wait time for forum to load, etc.

it's been like this since the transition.

Swanny
2nd May 2010, 17:29
Just tried to view this post and got
The page you are looking for is temporarily unavailable.
Please try again later.


Oh and I have had no need posts message when I haven't been on here for a few hours which is definitely not true and a pain in the bum.

New posts button doesn't work at all now... Please fix this

samvado
2nd May 2010, 18:52
The page you are looking for is temporarily unavailable.
Please try again later.

getting this in germany almost all day long - on & off

¤=[Post Update]=¤


This forum requires that you wait 30 seconds between posts. Please try again in 15 seconds.

and this !

Majorion
2nd May 2010, 21:08
Extreme slow downs, and sometimes it doesn't even connect no matter how long you wait.

Its especially slow with requests/queries, like clicking on "subscribed threads", or "go to advanced", or "new posts".

norman
3rd May 2010, 02:57
Yes it almost always slow and I get timed out frequently. I was originally suspicious that it was an external heavy filtering but I've also noticed that the internal house keeping is in a mess. The 'Replies' and 'Views' counters are cock eyed too.

My gut feeling is that it's something to do with bad 'bed mates' at the server farm. ( they could fix this, but they don't want to) ( why?)

Ross
3rd May 2010, 03:33
yep...its a pain in the jacksie...we are looking into it!

Peace

Teakai
3rd May 2010, 06:15
Soooo slow in Australia yesterday 3rd May and all day today.

I may be ready for a seniors pension before this message loads.

Joslin
9th May 2010, 09:33
So slow its giving me a head ache, :(

Swanny
9th May 2010, 09:43
Time to move to another host

Vidya Moksha
9th May 2010, 09:53
this is the worst it has ever been. too slow to use it.....so goodnight :)

rosie
10th May 2010, 16:15
double post

Celine
10th May 2010, 16:42
Time to move to another host

Hear HEAR!!


I have never understood the logic of "sticking" with a service when they dont live up to that said service.

How many times have you heard this..

"well we went last month to that restaurant, didnt like it, but we are going back this weekend" WTF?????

Time to leave the party and find new hosts

Celine
10th May 2010, 16:45
double post

Celine
10th May 2010, 16:50
yep...its a pain in the jacksie...we are looking into it!

Peace

Time to stop looking into it.

Bill is getting ripped off

MaskMarvl
18th May 2010, 01:16
I haven't noticed any slowness myself, except for my "upgrade" to "Avalon Senior" as I used to be in the other forum... :p

Etherios
18th May 2010, 07:08
erm i couldnt log in since last night... like 10 hours of no forums. It said the forum was not available atm. its like 1 hour now that i have woken up that i was able to log in.... weird

Gita
18th May 2010, 07:44
This thread was started couple of months ago and we still experiencing the same problems! Anyone desensitised to this yet?:rolleyes:

rosie
20th May 2010, 19:49
speed has picked up some for me, but I cannot change my avatar, when I save my changes I get this:

The page you are looking for is temporarily unavailable.
Please try again later.

anyone else having this trouble? It has not worked yet today , will try again tomorrow.

Etherios
20th May 2010, 19:53
atm my toolbars arent working ... speed is good tho :p

Gita
20th May 2010, 20:02
If only the oil spill was as slow as this forum tonight! :rolleyes:

SteveX
26th May 2010, 13:06
MEGGA SSSLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW CONECTION FOR THE LAST 2 DAYS.

Whats going on chaps?

Majorion
26th May 2010, 15:38
Guys I'm begging you now, please fix these problems, I'm barely able to post let alone log-on.

What the heck is this, these problems should have been solved months ago, this is far too frequent.

Manifestor
26th May 2010, 16:22
If only the oil spill was as slow as this forum tonight! :rolleyes:

:clap2: :clap2: :clap2:

The forum is always slow for me!

MargueriteBee
27th May 2010, 05:31
This forum is so slow, sometimes it takes what feels like five to ten minutes just to post and I can NEVER use 'reply with quote'. I post alot more on other forums because of it.

malynda
27th May 2010, 14:18
I am having the same problems and somehow am a new member all over again. This has gone on far too long.

Tommy
27th May 2010, 15:34
Hi,

Just wanted to report that I myself (located in Norway) have not had any speed\reliability problems for at least a month now. Today I did a brief compare between PA and ATS, and PA was the fastest to load. I believe usually this would be the case since PA does not have ad's or the relatively huge amount of external content like ATS does, so my conclusion on my end is that this forum performs very well as of now. I am however intrigued by the fact that other people (in different countries?) have so many problems. Has there been looked for patterns (like eg. one\or more single countries have issues and not the neighbor countries and etc.. ) ?

PS: The computer I am currently using now is usually ridiculously slow (old), but PA is not acting any slower than on a fast modern computer.

All the best,

Tommy

Gita
27th May 2010, 15:38
Hi,

Just wanted to report that I myself (located in Norway) have not had any speed\reliability problems for at least a month now. Today I did a brief compare between PA and ATS, and PA was the fastest to load. I believe usually this would be the case since PA does not have ad's or the relatively huge amount of external content like ATS does, so my conclusion on my end is that this forum performs very well as of now. I am however intrigued by the fact that other people (in different countries?) have so many problems. Has there been looked for patterns (like eg. one\or more single countries have issues and not the neighbor countries and etc.. ) ?

PS: The computer I am currently using now is usually ridiculously slow (old), but PA is not acting any slower than on a fast modern computer.

All the best,

Tommy

If that's the case then what is really going on here??:blink:

My computer is pretty fast and I only have this continuous problem with AV2 almost daily and that includes today as AV2 went down once today and earlier the uploading was very slooooow again!!

truthseekerdan
27th May 2010, 15:44
If that's the case then what is really going on here??:blink:

My computer is pretty fast and I only have this continuous problem with AV2 almost daily and that includes today as AV2 went down once today and earlier the uploading was very slooooow again!!

Gita, get rid of the Ashtar malware/spyware, then watch your "puter" speed up time... :laugh: :roll:

Tommy
27th May 2010, 15:46
Good question, I am at a loss here.. There is some stuff going on in different countries that is for sure, eg. Germany has blocked several (almost all) of Kerry's new releases on youtube, people can't even see the videos listed (anywhere)

Something is going on, that is for sure. Let's just hope we figure out 'what' soon..

Gita
27th May 2010, 15:51
Gita, get rid of the Ashtar malware/spyware, then watch your "puter" speed up time... :laugh: :roll:

:blink::eek::blink:

¤=[Post Update]=¤


Good question, I am at a loss here.. There is some stuff going on in different countries that is for sure, eg. Germany has blocked several (almost all) of Kerry's new releases on youtube, people can't even see the videos listed (anywhere)

Something is going on, that is for sure. Let's just hope we figure out 'what' soon..

Censorship sure seems to be put into place in Germany and it seems the rest of UK may follow soon. :rolleyes:

Majorion
27th May 2010, 16:16
Extreme slowdowns, it took me a while just to get to this thread.

Here's hoping the reply button works.

Richard
27th May 2010, 17:07
VBulletin 4 is quite an impressive bit of software and it isnt to blame for the slowness of the site. The issues that have been dogging this site as well as PC have been related to the MySQL Database and/or the FastCGI and NGINX servers. Once those servers are properly configured things should run quite well.
I run the backup of this forum on a regular Apache server with MySQL and loading time is not an issue whatsoever.
The configuration here is different because the hosts felt it would improve performance.

zebowho
27th May 2010, 18:19
VBulletin 4 is quite an impressive bit of software and it isnt to blame for the slowness of the site. The issues that have been dogging this site as well as PC have been related to the MySQL Database and/or the FastCGI and NGINX servers. Once those servers are properly configured things should run quite well.
I run the backup of this forum on a regular Apache server with MySQL and loading time is not an issue whatsoever.
The configuration here is different because the hosts felt it would improve performance.

First, the forum has been running pretty good for me lately (last couple of days). :)

I would like to bring one thing up that I haven't read in any of these posts and that is, has anyone tried turning off all the modules running with this installation of vBulletin (test bare bones forum software) and then get user input as to the slowness? If that comes out good then enable one mod at a time - get user input at each stage. From my experience running .asp forums, any kind of lag or user access/edit problems are usually because of a forum script (usually a module added to the base code) not being compatible with server side programs (like FastCGI). Also testing a copy of this installation on a different platform is really comparing apples to oranges....running good on Apache/MySQL will not show issues, scripts might have with FastCGI/MySQL/NGINX!

I'm not trying to be negative just offering some help is all ;)

-z

Tommy
27th May 2010, 22:03
VBulletin 4 is quite an impressive bit of software and it isnt to blame for the slowness of the site. The issues that have been dogging this site as well as PC have been related to the MySQL Database and/or the FastCGI and NGINX servers. Once those servers are properly configured things should run quite well.
I run the backup of this forum on a regular Apache server with MySQL and loading time is not an issue whatsoever.
The configuration here is different because the hosts felt it would improve performance.

Interesting ^^

But do you have any ideas on why not everyone has the same problems? This is what baffles me the most (on all our sites )

All the best,

Tommy

hostingtechs
28th May 2010, 16:20
First off, apologies for not replying to this thread. I forgot to come back and check it, and vBulletin is set to unsubscribe automatically.




Hi,

Just wanted to report that I myself (located in Norway) have not had any speed\reliability problems for at least a month now. Today I did a brief compare between PA and ATS, and PA was the fastest to load. I believe usually this would be the case since PA does not have ad's or the relatively huge amount of external content like ATS does, so my conclusion on my end is that this forum performs very well as of now. I am however intrigued by the fact that other people (in different countries?) have so many problems. Has there been looked for patterns (like eg. one\or more single countries have issues and not the neighbor countries and etc.. ) ?

PS: The computer I am currently using now is usually ridiculously slow (old), but PA is not acting any slower than on a fast modern computer.

All the best,

Tommy
Yes, I think that there might be a problem with specific countries and censorship. We've been working on trying to determine the pattern among people who have trouble. It seems that most of the issues occur within Europe, as there have been several instances where Richard can access the forum fine, but Bill cannot.




If that's the case then what is really going on here??:blink:

My computer is pretty fast and I only have this continuous problem with AV2 almost daily and that includes today as AV2 went down once today and earlier the uploading was very slooooow again!!
Can you please let me know if this has improved between yesterday and today?




Good question, I am at a loss here.. There is some stuff going on in different countries that is for sure, eg. Germany has blocked several (almost all) of Kerry's new releases on youtube, people can't even see the videos listed (anywhere)

Something is going on, that is for sure. Let's just hope we figure out 'what' soon..
Yes, it's very concerning. The Germany block is pretty frustrating for all of us, and we are doing as much as we can to keep Germany from blocking the videos on our servers. Another example was that there was a library that one of the PC volunteers worked from and she said that for a while the PC sites were all blocked at the library.





Censorship sure seems to be put into place in Germany and it seems the rest of UK may follow soon.
Hopefully not :/




VBulletin 4 is quite an impressive bit of software and it isnt to blame for the slowness of the site. The issues that have been dogging this site as well as PC have been related to the MySQL Database and/or the FastCGI and NGINX servers. Once those servers are properly configured things should run quite well.
I run the backup of this forum on a regular Apache server with MySQL and loading time is not an issue whatsoever.
The configuration here is different because the hosts felt it would improve performance.
I unfortunately do not agree with you on those points. vBulletin while it may have nice features, has some flaws in it that affect performance.

The reason your Apache backup is fine is because there is no load. Apache is great software and works very well for static html and low-load websites, but when traffic increases or you have a very user-interactive site, Apache will literally commit suicide. Last week we were running some testing and converted everything to Apache. After 1 hour and 40 minutes of running Apache, the server with 8GB of RAM that is dedicated to JUST your site had its RAM maxed out, and the server died going went 100% offline; the only solution was a forced power cycle. I think this is a pretty good example of why Apache won't work for a site with as much load as you guys have. And no, this wasn't an Apache misconfiguration.

All of the large sites use Nginx and FastCGI; they would never even dream of touching Apache. Just a few to name are Wordpress, Hulu, and Sourceforge.




First, the forum has been running pretty good for me lately (last couple of days). :)

I would like to bring one thing up that I haven't read in any of these posts and that is, has anyone tried turning off all the modules running with this installation of vBulletin (test bare bones forum software) and then get user input as to the slowness? If that comes out good then enable one mod at a time - get user input at each stage. From my experience running .asp forums, any kind of lag or user access/edit problems are usually because of a forum script (usually a module added to the base code) not being compatible with server side programs (like FastCGI). Also testing a copy of this installation on a different platform is really comparing apples to oranges....running good on Apache/MySQL will not show issues, scripts might have with FastCGI/MySQL/NGINX!

I'm not trying to be negative just offering some help is all ;)

-z
Yes, I agree that turning off some of the unnecessary modules will help. And yes, that does pose a problem that vBulletin was not developed for Nginx. Glad things are running well for you though :)




Interesting ^^

But do you have any ideas on why not everyone has the same problems? This is what baffles me the most (on all our sites )

All the best,

Tommy
Yes, agreed. It's a pretty weird situation, but hopefully we will be able to determine what geographic area of people has the most issues.

Gita
28th May 2010, 16:34
Can you please let me know if this has improved between yesterday and today?

Working good yesterday and today.:thumb:

Gita
28th May 2010, 17:28
Working good yesterday and today.:thumb:

I take that back! Just now it took five attempts to get back on the fourm and each page takes soooooooooooo loooooooooooong to load. Yep, back to rubbish again!:rolleyes:

rosie
28th May 2010, 18:04
Checking in from Southern ON

It has been very hard trying to even log in, so I have not been coming on as much as I would like. When I am finally able to get logged on, it takes way too much time to go anywhere after that, so again, I log off.

The morning here was impossible to even get logged in, but by the afternoon, it seemed Ok, not the best, but hey, I am on!

This info is for the techs, to help clean this up for everyone :high5:

zebowho
28th May 2010, 18:08
I take that back! Just now it took five attempts to get back on the fourm and each page takes soooooooooooo loooooooooooong to load. Yep, back to rubbish again!:rolleyes:

Yep...for me too! I did a quick search at vBulletin's free support forum and version 4 is slow for others as well...there are several threads on this subject. Could be a module problem but more than likely an excessive amount of queries the forum scripts send to the db.

My hats off to the hosting company for taking such a hit over these issues! You guys have been a class act when IMHO its been the forum software for the most part! Good luck everyone!! ;)

-z

hostingtechs
28th May 2010, 18:53
Yep...for me too! I did a quick search at vBulletin's free support forum and version 4 is slow for others as well...there are several threads on this subject. Could be a module problem but more than likely an excessive amount of queries the forum scripts send to the db.

My hats off to the hosting company for taking such a hit over these issues! You guys have been a class act when IMHO its been the forum software for the most part! Good luck everyone!! ;)

-z

Thank you for those comments.

And yes, IMHO the software has flaws (one of which is not fully supporting Nginx hehe:))

hostingtechs
28th May 2010, 18:59
I take that back! Just now it took five attempts to get back on the fourm and each page takes soooooooooooo loooooooooooong to load. Yep, back to rubbish again!:rolleyes:

Can you let me know if things are good again? I am thinking that things might randomly be getting slow for small periods and then fixing themselves.

MargueriteBee
30th May 2010, 06:05
When I type to reply or post I can't see any letters and on the top of the page evrything is lined up on the left side.

Gita
30th May 2010, 09:34
Can you let me know if things are good again? I am thinking that things might randomly be getting slow for small periods and then fixing themselves.

No things are not good again. In fact it's pretty rubbish. It's not just slow but the links are all over the place and it basically looks like a construction site. ya ya ya ya ya!!

Why is it like this? And why nothing ever gets sorted? You seem to be putting a lot of time into this but not actually moving forward and it's been months!!

SteveX
30th May 2010, 21:16
Ever frickin weekend without fail. Check ya bloody server logs, it's not like the forum is swamped with knob heads like me.... there’s hardly anyone on the form.

Bill, time to sort em out. There isn't a court in the land that would uphold this as fit for purpose.

SteveX
30th May 2010, 21:20
Every frickin weekend without fail. Check ya bloody server logs, it's not like the forum is swamped with knob heads like me.... there’s hardly anyone on the form.

Bill, time to sort em out. There isn't a court in the land that would uphold this as fit for purpose.

SteveX
30th May 2010, 21:25
Your problem Vbulletin. You sort the blasted double post. Oh! and while your at it sort the double word reproduction, at the end of the first sentence in so many posts.

SteveX
30th May 2010, 21:33
Time check server log..........38 people viewing the forums. Out of 6 Billion on the planet FFS

Gita
31st May 2010, 09:53
Here we go again!! :shout: It takes at least 40 seconds to load up a page and another 40 seconds to post – that’s if it decides to post! :rant: And then it decides to post the same thing two or three times. This is damn time consuming and frustrating. How many more months of this annoyance? Stop trying and get it fixed once and for all!

http://i40.tinypic.com/f5bw1z.jpg

http://www.movie-moron.com/wp-content/gallery/star-wars/SW-You-Fail.jpg


EPIC FAIL

Gita
31st May 2010, 09:53
Here we go again!! :shout: It takes at least 40 seconds to load up a page and another 40 seconds to post – that’s if it decides to post! :rant: And then it decides to post the same thing two or three times. This is damn time consuming and frustrating. How many more months of this annoyance? Stop trying and get it fixed once and for all!

http://i40.tinypic.com/f5bw1z.jpg

http://www.movie-moron.com/wp-content/gallery/star-wars/SW-You-Fail.jpg


EPIC FAIL



Oh here's it is again - another double post!!!:shout:

stardustaquarion
31st May 2010, 11:07
Yes, double posts and it is soooooooo slow

zebowho
31st May 2010, 12:18
Testing the "Post Quick Reply" button.....I think that's where the double posts are coming from......

-z

zebowho
31st May 2010, 12:37
Thank you for those comments.

And yes, IMHO the software has flaws (one of which is not fully supporting Nginx hehe:))

You're absolutely welcome! ;)

I first thought the double posts came from the "Post Quick Reply" button but couldn't replicate it with my last post all though all double posts I've experienced were because of that button and on the older AV1 forum, I always use "Go Advanced" and haven't seen double posts. Granted my post count is low. Another note, when I first came to the site today I hit "New Posts" the first time the search said "Search took 4.xx seconds" and actually took another 4-5 min to push all info to my browser. The second time I hit "New Posts" (after logging in) the search said "Search took 38.08 seconds" and then a further 3min to push the info to my browser.

....Again, says Forum software to me!! I wish I knew more about .php or I would dig into this since I'm convinced most of these problems are generated by the forum scripts.

Anyway, I hope the above helps in the collective trouble shooting process. ;)

-z

norman
31st May 2010, 16:57
err..... my guess, by now, is that there is something errr..."external" affecting this community forum. We already know that the NSA filters ALL net traffic. If they have a new little trick they want to try out, guess who's likely to be the guinea pigs.

And I still think all those 'bad' hard drives were a tad queer too.

hostingtechs
1st June 2010, 21:16
When I type to reply or post I can't see any letters and on the top of the page evrything is lined up on the left side.
Has this been resolved now? No explanation for what is causing this, but there was a report that it was fine again.




No things are not good again. In fact it's pretty rubbish. It's not just slow but the links are all over the place and it basically looks like a construction site. ya ya ya ya ya!!

Why is it like this? And why nothing ever gets sorted? You seem to be putting a lot of time into this but not actually moving forward and it's been months!!
We are putting a lot of time into this, and we are getting somewhere. We've made quite a bit of progress.




Ever frickin weekend without fail. ]Check ya bloody server logs, it's not like the forum is swamped with knob heads like me.... there's hardly anyone on the form. Time check server log..........38 people viewing the forums. Out of 6 Billion on the planet
There are actually a lot of people on the forum. 38 were online when you looked, but this number constantly changes. You've also got to remember that this is a pretty intensive forum. It has a lot more than just a forum.


As I mentioned earlier, the media files are all hosted on the same server as the forums, so this is using up resources and making extra unnecessary requests to Nginx and FastCGI. We plan to fix this by moving the media files to our content delivery network so they are on totally different servers. This will greatly increase the performance of the forums. We are almost done moving everything over, and hopefully we can go live tonight and start having links changed to point to the CDN servers.

Gita
1st June 2010, 21:29
We are putting a lot of time into this, and we are getting somewhere. We've made quite a bit of progress.

Well done!:thumb: Glad to hear it. Just wish I could see it!!:blink:

hostingtechs
2nd June 2010, 02:31
Well done!:thumb: Glad to hear it. Just wish I could see it!!:blink:

I presume things are still very slow for you then?

--
Karl

Grizzom
2nd June 2010, 04:30
How a "denial of service" attack works In a typical connection, the user sends a message asking the server to authenticate it. The server returns the authentication approval to the user. The user acknowledges this approval and then is allowed onto the server.
In a denial of service attack, the user sends several authentication requests to the server, filling it up. All requests have false return addresses, so the server can't find the user when it tries to send the authentication approval. The server waits, sometimes more than a minute, before closing the connection. When it does close the connection, the attacker sends a new batch of forged requests, and the process begins again--tying up the service indefinitely.



How to block a "denial of service" attack One of the more common methods of blocking a "denial of service" attack is to set up a filter, or "sniffer," on a network before a stream of information reaches a site's Web servers. The filter can look for attacks by noticing patterns or identifiers contained in the information. If a pattern comes in frequently, the filter can be instructed to block messages containing that pattern, protecting the Web servers from having their lines tied up.



Someone is screwing up our thing!

hostingtechs
2nd June 2010, 15:50
How a "denial of service" attack works In a typical connection, the user sends a message asking the server to authenticate it. The server returns the authentication approval to the user. The user acknowledges this approval and then is allowed onto the server.
In a denial of service attack, the user sends several authentication requests to the server, filling it up. All requests have false return addresses, so the server can't find the user when it tries to send the authentication approval. The server waits, sometimes more than a minute, before closing the connection. When it does close the connection, the attacker sends a new batch of forged requests, and the process begins again--tying up the service indefinitely.



How to block a "denial of service" attack One of the more common methods of blocking a "denial of service" attack is to set up a filter, or "sniffer," on a network before a stream of information reaches a site's Web servers. The filter can look for attacks by noticing patterns or identifiers contained in the information. If a pattern comes in frequently, the filter can be instructed to block messages containing that pattern, protecting the Web servers from having their lines tied up.



Someone is screwing up our thing!


These issues have nothing to do with a DOS/DDOS attack. We have plenty of protection in place to prevent one and have not had any to your site aside from one that we quickly stopped when you guys first switched to our company for hosting about a year ago.

Gita
3rd June 2010, 20:40
I presume things are still very slow for you then?

--
Karl

Sherlock Holms has nothing on you!!:laugh:

hostingtechs
3rd June 2010, 20:42
Sherlock Holms has nothing on you!!:laugh:

Hi Gita,

I'd appreciate it if you could stop with the rude remarks and pictures.

Thanks and enjoy your afternoon :)

Gita
3rd June 2010, 20:48
Just trying to inject a bit of humour to this on going frustrating problem. I would appreciate it if you could get this forum sorted out once and for all and then there wouldn’t be a need for this thread! In your own time though.:wink:

hostingtechs
3rd June 2010, 21:18
Just trying to inject a bit of humour to this on going frustrating problem. I would appreciate it if you could get this forum sorted out once and for all and then there wouldn’t be a need for this thread! In your own time though.:wink:

The forums are pretty much sorted out. You'll see an increase in performance as soon as the Avalon team starts changing media file links to the CDN. It is ready to go, we are just waiting on them. If the problems continue after they change the links, it is going to be either vBulletin issues or 3rd party interference. The forums have been loading fine for us along with Bill and Richard pretty much all week, so I would not cross out 3rd party interference from the list.

Gita
3rd June 2010, 21:30
... so I would not cross out 3rd party interference from the list.

do tell more!!

hostingtechs
3rd June 2010, 21:34
do tell more!!

What more is there to tell? It's kind of impossible to figure out if a 3rd party source is jumping in somewhere along the line between our servers and your connection. Trace routes are helpful, but they wouldn't tell us much.

You might try one though....if you're in Windows, go to Start and then click Run and then type in cmd and click ok. Type in "tracert projectavalon.net" (no quotes) and press enter. Copy and paste the results in here.

Gita
3rd June 2010, 21:48
OK - Can't find this darn Run on my Vista!! Where is it?

hostingtechs
3rd June 2010, 21:52
OK - Can't find this darn Run on my Vista!! Where is it?

If you click Start, there should be a little text box where you can search, type run there and the option for program should appear that says Run and has an icon of a little parallelogram.

Gita
3rd June 2010, 22:02
Did as you said, but it wouldn't allow me to highlight anything so that I could get a copy of it and then it just disappears!!

hostingtechs
3rd June 2010, 22:04
Did as you said, but it wouldn't allow me to highlight anything so that I could get a copy of it and then it just disappears!!

That would mean you are typing tracert projectavalon.net in run, you need to type in cmd in run, and then type in the tracert part once cmd opens.

Gita
3rd June 2010, 22:10
it still not allowing me to highlight any of it so I can copy it!! Doesn't disappear though! What now?

hostingtechs
3rd June 2010, 22:11
it still not allowing me to highlight any of it so I can copy it!! Doesn't disappear though! What now?

Right click at the top and go to edit and then click copy. Mark what you want to copy, and go back to edit and then click copy. (Do not right in the black area, right click at the top, also do not use control-c)

Gita
3rd June 2010, 22:18
Right click at the top and go to edit and then click copy. Mark what you want to copy, and go back to edit and then click copy. (Do not right in the black area, right click at the top, also do not use control-c)

Success! ......



Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6002]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Gita>tracert projectavalon.net

Tracing route to projectavalon.net [66.231.183.207]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 8 ms 10 ms 12 ms 10.187.192.1
3 9 ms 12 ms 9 ms osr02newt-v15.network.virginmedia.net [195.188.2
31.67]
4 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms osr02exet-tenge72.network.virginmedia.net [195.1
88.231.21]
5 17 ms 14 ms 13 ms winn-bb-1b-ge-220-0.network.virginmedia.net [195
.182.178.133]
6 56 ms 14 ms 15 ms popl-bb-1a-ae1-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253
.185.201]
7 25 ms 25 ms 21 ms amst-ic-1-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105
.175.6]
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 38 ms 29 ms 29 ms xe-3-1-0.cr1.lhr1.uk.nlayer.net [69.22.142.50]
10 103 ms 103 ms 126 ms xe-7-0-0.cr1.nyc3.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.30]
11 102 ms 101 ms 101 ms xe-2-0-0.cr1.iad1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.92]
12 102 ms 101 ms 102 ms ae1-40g.ar2.iad1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.31.182]
13 102 ms 101 ms 101 ms as33597.xe-3-0-7.ar2.iad1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.3
0.234]
14 103 ms 101 ms 101 ms cr1.iad2.inforelay.net [66.231.176.246]
15 102 ms 105 ms 102 ms 66.231.183.207

Trace complete.

C:\Users\Gita> )

hostingtechs
3rd June 2010, 22:21
Success! ......

Hmm, you're going through nLayer which is a very good provider. Line number eight might be a problem, but I doubt it. Everything else looks normal.

Gita
3rd June 2010, 22:25
I have no idea what you just said but I like the 'looks normal' part. :thumb:

hostingtechs
3rd June 2010, 22:40
I have no idea what you just said but I like the 'looks normal' part. :thumb:

A trace route shows the path used to get from one location to another. Each line is called a hop, and is when a connection switches off to another line. Think of it as driving directions...each line is a turn that has to be made to reach a destination.

Basically, that traceroute told me that there are no obvious connection problems between you and the server. The problem with traceroutes is that they don't tell the full story, and things can be hidden very easily.

Anchor
3rd June 2010, 23:28
Can you please post when the forum has been separated from the media? I am still experiencing slowness from time to time but I dont know if this is due to the existing reasons.

hostingtechs
3rd June 2010, 23:46
Can you please post when the forum has been separated from the media? I am still experiencing slowness from time to time but I dont know if this is due to the existing reasons.

Yes, I will. Just waiting on the PA staff :)

MargueriteBee
4th June 2010, 00:29
Posting is a lot faster during the day when most are at work it seems. But during busy times it can take a full two minutes for one post. I never can get a post with a quote. I waited ten minutes to see if it would post, but no way. I give up.
Good news is I can see what I am typing now, thanks.

hostingtechs
4th June 2010, 00:31
Posting is a lot faster during the day when most are at work it seems. But during busy times it can take a full two minutes for one post. I never can get a post with a quote. I waited ten minutes to see if it would post, but no way. I give up.
Good news is I can see what I am typing now, thanks.

Hmm okay. Thanks for letting us know.

hostingtechs
5th June 2010, 19:33
Hi Everyone,

Can you please update this thread and let us know if things have seemed better over the past few days?

Still waiting on the PA staff to change links...

Rocky_Shorz
6th June 2010, 01:51
well took almost 10 minutes to get to this page to start typing...

you guys toss us back onto a 300 baud modem again?

I'm going to click post and go make dinner, be back in an hour and hopefully it will be done...

hostingtechs
6th June 2010, 01:56
well took almost 10 minutes to get to this page to start typing...

you guys toss us back onto a 300 baud modem again?

I'm going to click post and go make dinner, be back in an hour and hopefully it will be done...

Yeah see this is just weird. It's been incredibly fast for us here at the office and at my house for the past 3 days. The last we heard from Bill and Richard, they said it was quite fast too.

Can you get us a traceroute please Rocky? The directions are in the above posts.

Thanks.

--
Karl

Fredkc
6th June 2010, 11:16
4:00 AM PDT

Tracing route to projectavalon.net [66.231.183.207]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.254
2 21 ms 21 ms 20 ms 99-27-72-3.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net [99.27.72.3]
3 25 ms 23 ms 25 ms 75.20.13.194
4 * * 25 ms 75.20.0.12
5 24 ms 23 ms 24 ms 75.20.0.4
6 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms 151.164.42.196
7 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms 151.164.98.61
8 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms xe-4-0-5.ar1.lax1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.127.225]

9 25 ms 24 ms 25 ms ae0-60g.cr1.lax1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.127.137]
10 61 ms 61 ms 62 ms te1-3.ar1.iah1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.121]
11 87 ms 104 ms 86 ms xe-2-2-0.cr1.atl1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.118]
12 88 ms 87 ms 87 ms xe-0-1-0.cr2.iad1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.106]
13 88 ms 88 ms 87 ms ae2-40g.ar2.iad1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.31.186]
14 87 ms 87 ms 87 ms as33597.xe-3-0-7.ar2.iad1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.30.230]
15 87 ms 88 ms 88 ms cr2.iad1.inforelay.net [66.231.176.10]
16 87 ms 87 ms 87 ms cr1.iad2.inforelay.net [66.231.176.246]
17 87 ms 88 ms 88 ms 66.231.183.207

Trace complete.
_____________________

Ok, throughout Saturday afternoon the site became progressively slower and slower. Finally, about 12 PM PDT the site completely failed to respond, and stayed that way for several hours.
"Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at projectavalon.net."

However I don't think this is going to the real problem, as the main web site page comes bangin' in like a rocket, right now. But...

It seems that is what's causing things to fall in a hole are the trips required to the SQL server. Something I can't really check, right now.

As additional evidence that points that way I'd bring up the fact that the forum isn't plagued with the things you;d expect from poor performance at the web server. Things like:
* Graphics timing out, and not being loaded.
* Malformed pages, due to timed out, or mis-reading of CSS files.

What is happening is:
* Double posting of posts
* Double storage of edits in existing posts, and
* double posting new threads.

These seem to indicate either a huge lag at the SQL server, or very poor bandwidth quality from Web to SQL servers.

Anyway, my 2 cents worth,

Fred

Came back to add that even this post was duplicated.
And it took 11 min. 30 sec. from the time I clicked Submit, until the page came back.

Fredkc
6th June 2010, 11:17
4:00 AM PDT

Tracing route to projectavalon.net [66.231.183.207]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.254
2 21 ms 21 ms 20 ms 99-27-72-3.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net [99.27.72.3]
3 25 ms 23 ms 25 ms 75.20.13.194
4 * * 25 ms 75.20.0.12
5 24 ms 23 ms 24 ms 75.20.0.4
6 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms 151.164.42.196
7 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms 151.164.98.61
8 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms xe-4-0-5.ar1.lax1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.127.225]
9 25 ms 24 ms 25 ms ae0-60g.cr1.lax1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.127.137]
10 61 ms 61 ms 62 ms te1-3.ar1.iah1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.121]
11 87 ms 104 ms 86 ms xe-2-2-0.cr1.atl1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.118]
12 88 ms 87 ms 87 ms xe-0-1-0.cr2.iad1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.106]
13 88 ms 88 ms 87 ms ae2-40g.ar2.iad1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.31.186]
14 87 ms 87 ms 87 ms as33597.xe-3-0-7.ar2.iad1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.30.230]
15 87 ms 88 ms 88 ms cr2.iad1.inforelay.net [66.231.176.10]
16 87 ms 87 ms 87 ms cr1.iad2.inforelay.net [66.231.176.246]
17 87 ms 88 ms 88 ms 66.231.183.207

Trace complete.
_____________________

Ok, throughout Saturday afternoon the site became progressively slower and slower. Finally, about 12 PM PDT the site completely failed to respond, and stayed that way for several hours.
"Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at projectavalon.net."

However I don't think this is going to the real problem, as the main web site page comes bangin' in like a rocket, right now. But...

It seems that is what's causing things to fall in a hole are the trips required to the SQL server. Something I can't really check, right now.

As additional evidence that points that way I'd bring up the fact that the forum isn't plagued with the things you;d expect from poor performance at the web server. Things like:
* Graphics timing out, and not being loaded.
* Malformed pages, due to timed out, or mis-reading of CSS files.

What is happening is:
* Double posting of posts
* Double storage of edits in existing posts, and
* double posting new threads.

These seem to indicate either a huge lag at the SQL server, or very poor bandwidth quality from Web to SQL servers.

Anyway, my 2 cents worth,

Fred


Yup! this here is a certified duplicate :)

Anchor
6th June 2010, 11:59
C:\Users\John>tracert projectavalon.net

Tracing route to projectavalon.net [66.231.183.207]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 76 ms 99 ms 99 ms BigPond.BigPond [10.0.0.138]
2 47 ms 26 ms 24 ms 172.18.112.75
3 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms 172.18.65.26
4 * 27 ms 26 ms 172.18.239.9
5 26 ms 75 ms 27 ms Bundle-Ether10.ken39.Sydney.telstra.net [203.45.17.17]
6 26 ms 25 ms 25 ms Bundle-Ether6.ken-core4.Sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.145]
7 24 ms 25 ms 25 ms Bundle-Ether1.pad-gw2.Sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.29]
8 26 ms 25 ms 24 ms TenGigabitEthernet2-0.sydp-core02.Sydney.reach.com [203.50.13.50]
9 183 ms 182 ms 185 ms i-13-0-0.wil-core02.bx.reach.com [202.84.141.109]
10 179 ms 179 ms 179 ms i-1-1.eqla01.bi.reach.com [202.84.251.194]
11 365 ms 224 ms 231 ms cogent-peer.eqla01.pr.reach.com [134.159.63.198]
12 184 ms 184 ms 184 ms te4-2.mpd02.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.6.189]
13 336 ms 229 ms 228 ms te2-8.mpd02.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.0.242]
14 258 ms 234 ms 233 ms te7-8.mpd02.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.2.245]
15 242 ms 242 ms 242 ms te0-1-0-2.mpd22.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.28.193]
16 306 ms 248 ms 291 ms te0-2-0-0.ccr21.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.26.38]
17 247 ms 251 ms 247 ms te9-4.mpd01.dca02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.30.110]
18 271 ms 272 ms 272 ms inforelay.demarc.cogentco.com [38.99.208.230]
19 271 ms 271 ms 272 ms 66.231.183.207

Trace complete.


EDIT: Update: The above post took about 60seconds to post and then tried to double post itself, but was caught by the flood control. The forum's new posts feature is unusably slow. Posting that contains a quote of a previous message is very slow.

It seems likely that this is not bandwidth or latency related.

John..

hostingtechs
7th June 2010, 00:37
Hello Everyone,

More information will be coming later, but just as a quick update, the outage today was caused by our cloud software malfunctioning. We have gotten everything back up on a temporary fix, but we will most likely be changing cloud platforms later this week as this one proved problematic as experienced today.

Our sincerest apologies for the downtime. We do understand the frustrations this is causing and are putting forth every effort to ensure this doesn't happen again.

Also, please do not respond with anything hateful, cruel, or vulgar as it won't get either of us anywhere.

--
Karl

hostingtechs
7th June 2010, 00:39
We've added a Varnish frontend, and will also be migrating to new (read: faster) hardware tomorrow. This will result in a downtime window of one hour. (Should take 10-15 mins, but we're blocking out an hour to be safe). I've just changed the DNS, so it may be a bit before you're switched to the new front end. Easiest way to check is to open a command prompt, and run "nslookup projectavalon.net". The new varnish server end in .208; the old server ends in .207. If you're using the new server, please let me know what you think of performance.

Alex

friamin
7th June 2010, 01:18
Charge 1 dollar a month for the forum membership and get a 10,000 gb a month bandwidth, 16GB DDR3 SDRAM , Dual Xeon X5650 HEXA CORE, 2 x SATA RAID 1. The forum will not only scream you will attract members that are serious about providing both insight and information that is both relative and thought provoking. There will even be a little left over to create some more awesome interviews.......

hostingtechs
7th June 2010, 01:29
Charge 1 dollar a month for the forum membership and get a 10,000 gb a month bandwidth, 16GB DDR3 SDRAM , Dual Xeon X5650 HEXA CORE, 2 x SATA RAID 1. The forum will not only scream you will attract members that are serious about providing both insight and information that is both relative and thought provoking. There will even be a little left over to create some more awesome interviews.......

The forum is already running on the equivalent of that.

Bomack
7th June 2010, 03:30
Near unusable from here. Here's some data for you.

Connect Times From Seattle Area:

projectavalon.net: 7:45 pm = 1:10 min

/forum4: 7:48 pm = 1:05 min

This Forum: 7:50 pm = 2:05 min

First Unread: 7:52 pm = 2:10 min (3:30 min to fully load)

Reply To Thread: 8:06 pm = 2:55 min (Page Unavail) Next Try: 2:25 min


Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Bomack>tracert projectavalon.net

Tracing route to projectavalon.net [66.231.183.207]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 2 ms <1 ms <1 ms DD-WRT [192.168.11.1]
2 6 ms 6 ms 7 ms 73.102.128.1
3 9 ms 11 ms 11 ms 68.87.207.241
4 7 ms 9 ms 8 ms be-60-ar01.burien.wa.seattle.comcast.net [68.85.
240.85]
5 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms be-30-ar01.seattle.wa.seattle.comcast.net [68.85
.240.69]
6 10 ms 11 ms 20 ms pos-1-4-0-0-cr01.seattle.wa.ibone.comcast.net [6
8.86.90.209]
7 26 ms 13 ms 13 ms pos-0-9-0-0-cr01.portland.or.ibone.comcast.net [
68.86.85.102]
8 26 ms 26 ms 25 ms pos-1-12-0-0-cr01.sacramento.ca.ibone.comcast.ne
t [68.86.86.229]
9 28 ms 27 ms 29 ms pos-0-8-0-0-cr01.sanjose.ca.ibone.comcast.net [6
8.86.85.78]
10 47 ms 30 ms 48 ms te3-3.mpd01.sjc04.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.11.
105]
11 33 ms 36 ms 29 ms te9-1.ccr02.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.0.1
77]
12 41 ms 39 ms 42 ms te3-8.ccr01.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.3.1
37]
13 77 ms 78 ms 80 ms te9-7.ccr01.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.0.2
34]
14 92 ms 102 ms 103 ms te7-8.ccr01.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.25.
117]
15 108 ms 108 ms 109 ms te0-2-0-3.ccr21.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54
.24.9]
16 109 ms 130 ms 112 ms te9-4.mpd01.dca02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.30.
110]
17 167 ms 202 ms 199 ms inforelay.demarc.cogentco.com [38.99.208.230]
18 109 ms 118 ms 108 ms 66.231.183.207

Trace complete.

C:\Users\Bomack>

I know y'all are working hard at it and we appreciate it!
Hope this is helpful.
Bob


Good Luck

Swanny
7th June 2010, 07:37
Can't believe they are using the same hosts, I would have dumped them months ago they have proved beyond doubt that they are rubbish at their job

hostingtechs
7th June 2010, 11:09
You're still using the old server (66.231.183.207). You'll definitely see an improvement once your DNS transitions to the new server (206.217.197.208)


Near unusable from here. Here's some data for you.

Connect Times From Seattle Area:

projectavalon.net: 7:45 pm = 1:10 min

/forum4: 7:48 pm = 1:05 min

This Forum: 7:50 pm = 2:05 min

First Unread: 7:52 pm = 2:10 min (3:30 min to fully load)

Reply To Thread: 8:06 pm = 2:55 min (Page Unavail) Next Try: 2:25 min


Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Bomack>tracert projectavalon.net

Tracing route to projectavalon.net [66.231.183.207]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 2 ms <1 ms <1 ms DD-WRT [192.168.11.1]
2 6 ms 6 ms 7 ms 73.102.128.1
3 9 ms 11 ms 11 ms 68.87.207.241
4 7 ms 9 ms 8 ms be-60-ar01.burien.wa.seattle.comcast.net [68.85.
240.85]
5 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms be-30-ar01.seattle.wa.seattle.comcast.net [68.85
.240.69]
6 10 ms 11 ms 20 ms pos-1-4-0-0-cr01.seattle.wa.ibone.comcast.net [6
8.86.90.209]
7 26 ms 13 ms 13 ms pos-0-9-0-0-cr01.portland.or.ibone.comcast.net [
68.86.85.102]
8 26 ms 26 ms 25 ms pos-1-12-0-0-cr01.sacramento.ca.ibone.comcast.ne
t [68.86.86.229]
9 28 ms 27 ms 29 ms pos-0-8-0-0-cr01.sanjose.ca.ibone.comcast.net [6
8.86.85.78]
10 47 ms 30 ms 48 ms te3-3.mpd01.sjc04.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.11.
105]
11 33 ms 36 ms 29 ms te9-1.ccr02.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.0.1
77]
12 41 ms 39 ms 42 ms te3-8.ccr01.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.3.1
37]
13 77 ms 78 ms 80 ms te9-7.ccr01.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.0.2
34]
14 92 ms 102 ms 103 ms te7-8.ccr01.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.25.
117]
15 108 ms 108 ms 109 ms te0-2-0-3.ccr21.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54
.24.9]
16 109 ms 130 ms 112 ms te9-4.mpd01.dca02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.30.
110]
17 167 ms 202 ms 199 ms inforelay.demarc.cogentco.com [38.99.208.230]
18 109 ms 118 ms 108 ms 66.231.183.207

Trace complete.

C:\Users\Bomack>

I know y'all are working hard at it and we appreciate it!
Hope this is helpful.
Bob


Good Luck

Anchor
7th June 2010, 11:30
Forums, just come back after not being able to reach it again, and I ran some traces tonight for you

C:\Windows\system32>tracert projectavalon.net

Tracing route to projectavalon.net [206.217.197.208]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 41 ms 99 ms 105 ms BigPond.BigPond [10.0.0.138]
2 73 ms 68 ms 35 ms 172.18.112.75
3 140 ms 76 ms 152 ms 172.18.65.26
4 96 ms 136 ms 133 ms 172.18.239.9
5 120 ms 141 ms 89 ms Bundle-Ether10.ken39.Sydney.telstra.net [203.45.17.17]
6 144 ms 98 ms 34 ms Bundle-Ether6.ken-core4.Sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.145]
7 81 ms 80 ms 41 ms Bundle-Ether1.pad-gw2.Sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.29]
8 84 ms 85 ms 78 ms TenGigabitEthernet2-0.sydp-core02.Sydney.reach.com [203.50.13.50]
9 305 ms 215 ms 264 ms i-2-1-1.wil-core02.bx.reach.com [202.84.140.38]
10 244 ms 294 ms 231 ms i-3-0-0.paix-core02.bi.reach.com [202.84.140.90]
11 303 ms 233 ms 256 ms i-1-1.paix01.bi.reach.com [202.84.251.70]
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 218 ms 345 ms 316 ms vl52.ar1.sfo1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.143.122]
14 350 ms 330 ms 245 ms te1-1.ar1.slc1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.96]
15 401 ms 270 ms 265 ms xe-2-1-0.cr1.ord1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.101]
16 268 ms 281 ms 287 ms ae1-40g.ar1.ord1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.111.134]
17 273 ms 309 ms 309 ms ip-69-31-110-46.nlayer.net [69.31.110.46]
18 * no-ptr.midphase.com [206.217.197.208] reports: Destination protocol unreachable.

Trace complete.

C:\Windows\system32>pathping projectavalon.net

Tracing route to projectavalon.net [206.217.197.208]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
0 VISION.BigPond [10.0.0.80]
1 BigPond.BigPond [10.0.0.138]
2 172.18.112.75
3 172.18.65.26
4 172.18.239.9
5 Bundle-Ether10.ken39.Sydney.telstra.net [203.45.17.17]
6 Bundle-Ether6.ken-core4.Sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.145]
7 Bundle-Ether1.pad-gw2.Sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.29]
8 TenGigabitEthernet2-0.sydp-core02.Sydney.reach.com [203.50.13.50]
9 i-2-1-1.wil-core02.bx.reach.com [202.84.140.38]
10 i-3-0-0.paix-core02.bi.reach.com [202.84.140.90]
11 i-1-1.paix01.bi.reach.com [202.84.251.70]
12 * * *
Computing statistics for 275 seconds...
Source to Here This Node/Link
Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
0 VISION.BigPond [10.0.0.80]
0/ 100 = 0% |
1 3ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% BigPond.BigPond [10.0.0.138]
0/ 100 = 0% |
2 45ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 172.18.112.75
0/ 100 = 0% |
3 46ms 96/ 100 = 96% 96/ 100 = 96% 172.18.65.26
0/ 100 = 0% |
4 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% 172.18.239.9
0/ 100 = 0% |
5 52ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% Bundle-Ether10.ken39.Sydney.telstra.net [203.45.17.17]
0/ 100 = 0% |
6 49ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% Bundle-Ether6.ken-core4.Sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.145]
0/ 100 = 0% |
7 49ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% Bundle-Ether1.pad-gw2.Sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.29]
0/ 100 = 0% |
8 48ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% TenGigabitEthernet2-0.sydp-core02.Sydney.reach.com [203.50.13.50]
0/ 100 = 0% |
9 210ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% i-2-1-1.wil-core02.bx.reach.com [202.84.140.38]
100/ 100 =100% |
10 --- 100/ 100 =100% 0/ 100 = 0% i-3-0-0.paix-core02.bi.reach.com [202.84.140.90]
0/ 100 = 0% |
11 --- 100/ 100 =100% 0/ 100 = 0% i-1-1.paix01.bi.reach.com [202.84.251.70]

Trace complete.

Another tracert

C:\Windows\system32>tracert projectavalon.net

Tracing route to projectavalon.net [206.217.197.208]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 67 ms 99 ms 99 ms BigPond.BigPond [10.0.0.138]
2 26 ms 25 ms 27 ms 172.18.112.75
3 25 ms 25 ms 28 ms 172.18.65.26
4 32 ms 25 ms 26 ms 172.18.239.9
5 29 ms 26 ms 27 ms Bundle-Ether10.ken39.Sydney.telstra.net [203.45.17.17]
6 25 ms 25 ms 26 ms Bundle-Ether6.ken-core4.Sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.145]
7 26 ms 25 ms 26 ms Bundle-Ether1.pad-gw2.Sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.29]
8 38 ms 34 ms 26 ms TenGigabitEthernet2-0.sydp-core02.Sydney.reach.com [203.50.13.50]
9 243 ms 190 ms 184 ms i-2-1-1.wil-core02.bx.reach.com [202.84.140.38]
10 179 ms 178 ms 179 ms i-3-0-0.paix-core02.bi.reach.com [202.84.140.90]
11 179 ms 179 ms 184 ms i-1-1.paix01.bi.reach.com [202.84.251.70]
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 224 ms 216 ms 215 ms vl53.ar1.sfo1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.143.134]
14 229 ms 230 ms 230 ms te1-1.ar1.slc1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.96]
15 264 ms 263 ms 273 ms xe-2-1-0.cr1.ord1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.101]
16 270 ms 279 ms 266 ms ae1-40g.ar1.ord1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.111.134]
17 281 ms 265 ms 266 ms ip-69-31-110-46.nlayer.net [69.31.110.46]
18 no-ptr.midphase.com [206.217.197.208] reports: Destination protocol unreachable.

Trace complete.

Fredkc
7th June 2010, 17:51
What I couldn't post, since 7:00 AM PDT

c:\>tracert projectavalon.net
Tracing route to projectavalon.net [206.217.197.208]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.254
2 20 ms 21 ms 21 ms 99-27-72-3.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net [99.27.72.3]
3 24 ms 23 ms 24 ms 75.20.13.194
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 * * * Request timed out.
6 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms 151.164.95.174
7 25 ms 25 ms 24 ms 151.164.53.229
8 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms xe-4-0-5.ar1.lax1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.127.225]
9 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms ae0-60g.cr1.lax1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.127.141]
10 60 ms 59 ms 96 ms xe-0-2-0.cr1.dfw1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.22]
11 79 ms 78 ms 78 ms xe-2-2-0.cr2.ord1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.2]
12 79 ms 79 ms 79 ms ae2-40g.ar1.ord1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.111.138]
13 79 ms 80 ms 82 ms ip-69-31-110-46.nlayer.net [69.31.110.46]
14 no-ptr.midphase.com [206.217.197.208] reports: Destination protocol unreachable.
Trace complete.

c:\>tracert projectavalon.net
Tracing route to projectavalon.net [206.217.197.208]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.254
2 21 ms 20 ms 20 ms 99-27-72-3.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net [99.27.72.3]
3 24 ms 24 ms 23 ms 75.20.13.194
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 * 26 ms 27 ms 75.20.0.4
6 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms 151.164.95.174
7 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms 151.164.53.229
8 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms xe-4-0-5.ar1.lax1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.127.225]
9 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms ae0-60g.cr1.lax1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.127.141]
10 60 ms 59 ms 59 ms xe-0-2-0.cr1.dfw1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.22]
11 78 ms 78 ms 79 ms xe-2-2-0.cr2.ord1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.2]
12 80 ms 78 ms 78 ms ae2-40g.ar1.ord1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.111.138]
13 80 ms 82 ms 79 ms ip-69-31-110-46.nlayer.net [69.31.110.46]
14 no-ptr.midphase.com [206.217.197.208] reports: Destination protocol unreachable.

Trace complete.

_______________________________________
But when I tried to post this at 6:40 AM PDT
what I got was this:
Error 503 Service Unavailable
Service Unavailable
Guru Meditation:
XID: 105320833

From the drupal.org site, when they were having such issues...
Combination of load balancer "issue"/feature and varnish timeout.


7:30 AM PDT:
504 Gateway Time-out
nginx/0.6.32

8:00 AM PDT:
Error 503 Service Unavailable
Service Unavailable
Guru Meditation:
XID: 105348168
Varnish cache server

8:30 AM PDT:
Error 503 Service Unavailable
Service Unavailable
Guru Meditation:
XID: 105357426
Varnish cache server

9:30 AM PDT:
Database error
The database has encountered a problem.

10:30 AM PDT:
Database error
The database has encountered a problem.

Current time: 10:50 AM PDT

hostingtechs
7th June 2010, 17:59
What I couldn't post, since 7:00 AM PDT

How is the forum performance for you now?

Fredkc
7th June 2010, 18:05
"Almost" like normal ;)

Celine
7th June 2010, 18:12
So how long can we expect the forum to be up this time?

hostingtechs
7th June 2010, 18:18
@fred

Good to hear. Try some of the more advanced features, and report back, too, if you can. 9Like quoting, multi-quote, search, today's posts, etc)

@céline

Should be up indefinitely. It's now on a pretty reduntant load balancing cluster. See http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?2753-Transition-to-new-Hosting-Infrastructure-Complete-Your-Help-Needed!&p=25041#post25041 for a longer description :-)

Celine
7th June 2010, 18:19
Indefinitely does not mean much...

Do you expect a day... a week..a month...?

Please clarify

Bomack
7th June 2010, 18:22
You're still using the old server (66.231.183.207). You'll definitely see an improvement once your DNS transitions to the new server (206.217.197.208)

OK I'm now connecting to 206.217.197.208
The PA Home Page loads almost INSTANTLY!
The Forum4 Start Page loads in about 5 sec.

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Tracing route to projectavalon.net [206.217.197.208]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms DD-WRT [192.168.11.1]
2 13 ms 16 ms 13 ms 73.102.128.1
3 8 ms 10 ms 14 ms 68.87.207.241
4 23 ms 12 ms 13 ms po-10-ur02.tacoma.wa.seattle.comcast.net [68.85.
240.98]
5 16 ms 11 ms 16 ms be-60-ar01.seattle.wa.seattle.comcast.net [68.85
.240.89]
6 18 ms 14 ms 14 ms pos-1-5-0-0-cr01.seattle.wa.ibone.comcast.net [6
8.86.90.213]
7 15 ms 14 ms 16 ms TenGigabitethernet1-4.ar5.SEA1.gblx.net [64.209.
111.93]
8 69 ms 61 ms 70 ms xe-2-0-5.ar2.ord1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.111.222]

9 66 ms 69 ms 71 ms ae0-40g.ar1.ord1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.111.129]
10 70 ms 67 ms 69 ms ip-69-31-110-46.nlayer.net [69.31.110.46]
11 no-ptr.midphase.com [206.217.197.208] reports: Destination protocol unreac
hable.

Trace complete.

(hmmn...)

Thanks!

blue777
7th June 2010, 18:25
forum slowed down..back to normal now..EUROPE
lol

Fredkc
7th June 2010, 18:28
"Like quoting,"...
Ok, I just tried a "Reply With Quote" and so far, I am still at the same window,
with no quoted text in the reply box, 8 minutes later. (and counting)

Addendum;
at 12 minutes, I gave up.

refreshed page. went back and tried again. response was instant.

Fred

Celine
7th June 2010, 18:29
i just tried to send a pvt msg and got an error msg...becuase i dont save msg's i have no way of knowing if it sent.

hostingtechs
7th June 2010, 18:44
Hopefully there will be no downtime at all in the future. This is what I meant by indefinetely.

i just tried to send a pvt msg and got an error msg...becuase i dont save msg's i have no way of knowing if it sent.
Can you elaborate on what the error message said? Thanks. :-)

Celine
7th June 2010, 18:47
hmm its not there now..

It was one of the "error" messages that we have been getting in the last 2 days.

Celine
7th June 2010, 18:54
it is happening again...at intervals...

Error 503 Service Unavailable

Service Unavailable
Guru Meditation:

XID: 1212575536
Varnish cache server

hostingtechs
7th June 2010, 19:10
it is happening again...at intervals...

Error 503 Service Unavailable

Service Unavailable
Guru Meditation:

XID: 1212575536
Varnish cache server

I went ahead and added more buckets to the Varnish cache as well as rewrote the hashing algorithm. Hopefully this will fix it. Let me know if you see more errors.

Anchor
7th June 2010, 22:40
Why would the quality of the cache affect the availability of the underlying service ?

What are the criteria for availability - and - is it availiability to the end user or the caching layer ?

hostingtechs
7th June 2010, 23:22
Why would the quality of the cache affect the availability of the underlying service ?

What are the criteria for availability - and - is it availiability to the end user or the caching layer ?

As far as the first one, the caching layer is responsible for all connections between users and the site, so if the cache runs out of buckets (connections and their associated cached content), it leads to 503/Guru Meditation errors. This reduces load on the webserver by keeping the most requested items handy in memory.

Can you clarify what you mean by the second question? I'm afraid I don't understand.

Alex

Celine
7th June 2010, 23:26
Seems overly complicated for a simple operation...

hostingtechs
7th June 2010, 23:30
Unfortunately, it does. However, running software such as vBulletin is extremely load/resource intensive, and as such, requires caching, etc to make the site function smoothly.

hostingtechs
8th June 2010, 00:15
Load Test Results for those interested. This just finished. Feel free to ask if you have questions.

http://i.imgur.com/QkuQw.png

Anchor
8th June 2010, 01:19
I am finding the forum slow still.

New posts function seems quicker than I remember it.

"Post Quick Reply" is slow but is how I posted this

"Reply" is unusuable the times I tried it in the last 4hrs

"Reply with quote" is unusable any time I have tried it, but not today

John..