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TelosianEmbrace
19th February 2013, 06:06
Hi all.

I've booked a trip to New Zealand in April. I have around thirteen days driving around the North and South islands in a Lucky Crib. I'm looking for suggestions on places to visit and things to do.

Of particular interest will be marine spots such as diving at the Poor Knights and the dolphins and seals at Kaikoura. I would like, at some stage, to see and perhaps snorkel with an orca in the wild. I'm thinking of taking my snorkelling gear (Including wet suit) and hopping under any piers and jetties that look enticing enough to brave the chilly water.

I'm looking at any cheap or free sites to pull up my van for the night. I've heard there are one or two free sites that are not to be missed.

I've researched some of the work of Martin Doutre, of www.celticnz.co.nz There are multiple sites that show evidence of a Celtic race in NZ before the maoris. This race were master surveyors, and many sites can be found at the peaks of hills and mountains. One of these is at the top of Tahanga Hill, Opito Bay on the Coromandel Peninsula. I would like to find sites that are notable and easy to get to.

I would like to find and have a chat with any alternative researchers in NZ, and perhaps make a vid or two for my youtube channel www.youtube.com/pleiadianguy

From the brochure New Zealand looks spectacular! One place I am looking at driving along is the west coast of the South Island. Any other suggestions for other scenic spots to visit would be welcomed.

So, advice on these topics and any general travel suggestions for New Zealand would be welcome.

A big HI to all the Kiwis out there!

Tane Mahuta
19th February 2013, 07:12
Hi TelosianEmbrace, you lucky "thing you". As for the alternative researchers in NZ, Vinney Eastwood come to mind.

have a good holiday.

http://www.thevinnyeastwoodshow.com/index.html

TM

KiwiElf
19th February 2013, 08:09
A big "Hi" back TelosianEmbrace...

Well of course I'd recommend Milford Sound, Wanaka (unfortunately you will just miss the famous Warbirds Airshow they hold annually over Easter) but Wanaka itself is beautiful along with nearby Queenstown. In the Central Nth Island, Rotorua is still a favourite (mini-Yellowstone), and not far from there the site of a mega-volcano, Lake Taupo. You may even wish to book a trip out to White Island which is currently active.

Plus there is 90 mile Beach in the upper Nth island, and at the very tip of the Nth Island is our Cape Reinga lighthouse with a spectacular view and you can see the oceans come together.

Would be delighted to meet any fellow Avalonians - if you come to Auckland that is. ;)

Kia-Ora and may your trip be a great one! :)

KiwiElf

witchy1
19th February 2013, 08:31
This is Opito Bay - we were there in August. Its beautiful, Here is the hill you need to climb, I bailed out after the second sharp corner. Dirt road to get there - see photo, the view is incredible. You can just see the wee village in the other photo. I also threw a photo of Tane Mahuta in (the Kauri tree)..... if you are in the area - a must see. Hot Water beach is also in the area, just grab a shovel from the Dairy and dig a hole in the sand.......water is about 30 deg. (dont go at high tide tho) or you wont get past the rocks. Also suggest Russell in the Bay of Islands, take the ferry over. If you are up early enought you will see the Dolphins go by on their way to feeding down the road a bit. You might as well go up the road 10 mins and see the Treaty House at Waitangi and the grounds.
NZ is amazing, but being sold out to the pricks that run the joint. Its loosing its green image fast. But its got wide open spaces and plenty of green and sea. If you are in Coromandel, might as well nip down to Taupo (one of the 3 largest calderas on the planet, and still shakes a bit) and its truely amazing. To get there go through Rotorua and grab a mineral pool dip and check out the boiling mud. (its geothermal in there). After Taupo, head up the Mountains (as long as none are puffing) there might be enough to ski on. I would post more photos, but am taking up my KB. Many many amazing places to see.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/attach/jpg.gif

Nanoo Nanoo
19th February 2013, 09:07
what is a lucky crib ?

witchy1
19th February 2013, 09:09
OK couldnt help myself.... these are - Rotorua sunrise - with lake to the left and some geo activity on the right, Corommandal sunset, Russell and Watangi grounds.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/attach/jpg.gif

Paul
19th February 2013, 09:10
what is a lucky crib ?

A small rental travel van that sleeps two:
http://www.jucy.co.nz/gfx/imageUploads/26-October-2012-13-2-58.jpg

(Thanks, Google :).)

KiwiElf
19th February 2013, 09:16
Thanks Paul (I didn't know that either!!) :) Beautiful pics Witchy!

witchy1
19th February 2013, 09:29
Alternative sites for your reviewing: http://www.nzcpr.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=30&st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sid=1880b841e394add14f598b1a575e2966&start=15
Alternative History: http://www.whitenewsnow.com/new-zealand-news-white-new-zealand/14578-celtic-viking-traces-ancient-new-zealand-3.html
Wipoua Forest - Stone city http://www.everythingiselectric.com/new-zealand/waipoua-forest-stone-city.html

Kaimanawa Wall structure/pyramid - man made or natural?

http://www.everythingiselectric.com/images/solarobservatory/taupo-lake-Kaimanawa-Wall-pyramid-Clements-Mill-Road-banner.jpg (http://www.mysteriousnewzealand.co.nz/photogallery/displayimage.php?album=5&pos=7) http://www.everythingiselectric.com/images/solarobservatory/Kaimanawa-Wall-new-zealand-pyramids-ancient-banner.jpg (http://www.mysteriousnewzealand.co.nz/photogallery/displayimage.php?album=5&pos=31)
The Kaimanawa Wall structure/pyramid is near Lake Taupo in New Zealand (its location is around grid co-ordinates N103 650056). The Kaimanawa Wall easy to visit by car as it is beside a forest road track (Clements Mill Road) and you cant miss it on your left hand side.
You will see slightly back from the side of the road a wall of large blocks in amazing squares. It is explained as natural but when you see it with your own eyes you may doubt that. The shape of the Kaimanawa Walls blocks and the gaps look to be man made. What are the odds that in a whole forest the road passes by the Kaimanawa Wall?
http://www.everythingiselectric.com/new-zealand/kaimanawa-wall-new-zealand.html

No nothing is ever as it seems

Not conspiracy stuff, but he has some ideas for you http://donsmaps.com/abeltasmantrack.html

TelosianEmbrace
19th February 2013, 09:30
Thanks guys, some great suggestions!

I've seen a few Vinny Eastwood vids, he certainly doesn't pull any punches, does he?

Kia ora, KiwiElf! I fly into Auckland very early on the 7th April, staying at a hotel then hopefully picking up my van and heading north- perhaps we could meet up on my way back through two or thee days later? Happy to PM, if you like.

The Treaty House/grounds would be significant for me in that that is where the whites signed an agreement with the Maoris because they couldn't defeat them- am I basically right in that assumption? So that is the place where the whites and our invasive and degrading culture got our comeuppance... and by extension the PTW. However, from the sounds of it, the creeping subversiveness is yet claiming the land....

Some great pics, witchy! Might seek some more advice from you on climbing the hill at Opito Bay... looks easy enough! :p

I've sent an email to Alec Newald... wonder if he's available for a chat.

Happy to hear more,
Guy

Fractalius
19th February 2013, 09:44
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g609166-d1879946-Reviews-Clay_Cliff-Omarama_Canterbury_Region_South_Island.html
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g255677-d639785-Reviews-Moeraki_Boulders-Oamaru_South_Island.html

In the celtic nz site there is mention of Koru Pa. Which I have been to a number of times. It is in Taranaki.
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Tourism-g1122051-Taranaki_Region_North_Island-Vacations.html

http://parihaka.com/

KiwiElf
19th February 2013, 09:45
Will do shortly TE.
Alec is a wonderful guy (know him personally altho haven't seen him for ages). :)

witchy1
19th February 2013, 09:52
Whose Alec Newald?
That hill is farking treacherous, I may be abit long in the tooth, but seriously I thought it would be a doddle..... To think the old Maoris used to run up and down there - Whatever. Great spot to throw rocks on your invaders however - which is exactly what they did.!!!!! If you make it to the top I want to see a photo! I have photos from half way. My legs started to shake so physically couldnt make it any further. But that happens always when I get close to these sites. Same happened in the Bay of Islands and other grounds where there has been great anger and bloodshed from war. So maybe not entirely old age. LOL

Where are you coming from TelosianEmbrace?

We are heading back in a few months doing the deep south to see Borealis Australis and catch the Oyster season in Bluff. (Best oysters on the planet by a country mile) Might have to go over to Stewart Island to catch the lights tho..... we will see.

You will find most Kiwis fiercly protective and very proud of our country. Very friendly with great sense of humour. The food is super good and mostly natural (GMO's starting to creep in) and we even have our own mad scientists mucking around with milk and cows - totally dispicable
Happy to answer questions, as I am sure other Kiwis are.

KiwiElf
19th February 2013, 10:21
Witchy,

Alec is a (famous?) Kiwi Abductee - Jackovesk has done a recent post.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54281-Project-Camelot-ET-Intervention-Alec-Newald-David-Griffin..-

witchy1
19th February 2013, 10:40
Thanks KiwiElf, how did I miss that - things move quick at times around here :-)

Was he around the Corommandal when it happened? I have had friends when I was younger who reakon the ET's come in 7 year cycles. They used to sit and watch them fly over....and this is when you were a crack pot for discussing UFO's (30 years ago)

TelosianEmbrace
19th February 2013, 11:06
Alec has had a hard time of it from the authorities. It's all on Jackovesk's thread. I first read his book quite a few years ago. Boy, New Zealand looks and sounds beautiful! I'll have a look at all the links over the next few days and weeks, and see what I can get to. I might even talk to the boss and see if I can extend my holiday....

KiwiElf
19th February 2013, 11:41
Witchy,

No, Alec was driving to Auckland from Rotorua, entered a fog bank, came out the other side and discovered he had been missing for several days (in a nutshell). Later, he began to recall what had happened.

EDIT: His book is called, "CoEvolution" - fascinating read.

Coromandel - Kaiawa is quite a hot spot for UFO's tho... have seen many (my parents lived in Thames)

witchy1
19th February 2013, 12:24
Ha, yes KiwiElf, Thames it was. My Mum used to love it there, and had all her holidays there with an aunt. Would love to buy something there - but boy prices have shot up. Just a couple of acres would do.! (and a job)

Yes TE you will need more time for sure, but depends how long it takes you to get there. Maybe you might make it a yearly holiday.

Reading the Alec book now - thanks Jack for the post.

etheric underground
19th February 2013, 13:31
Brother...Ill be home in a week. And my incentive is always the same.... get a car, drive and let the closest you will ever come to mother earth nurture you and take you where your meant to be... have a couple of ideas in concrete and for a portion of your time....GET LOST ...and let the outdoors of gaias best secret flow through you bro!!!!
YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU STAND IN ALL HER GLORY AND BREATHE ....

markpierre
19th February 2013, 13:56
Hey I can't help you with New Zealand, but I looked up your tube channel. I watched "Ultimatum". Smokin'.
Even if they just laugh at you and drive over your head with a tank, you're gonna die with your boots on.
This dimension is just a joke anyway.

bennycog
19th February 2013, 14:09
You have to stop at the spieghts (beer)factory in Dunedin. and the chocolate factory. There is even a ghost castle to check out there..
And check out fox glacier and visit the cool underground waterways via car tube in greymouth, while watching the glow worms overhead.. and yes Milford sound is magical..
Highest bungee in the world at Queenstown..
Could go on, there is so much to take in at the land o the long white cloud..

Lifebringer
19th February 2013, 15:04
Sounds like a wonderful nature filled trip. Congrats. I've had my eyes on the Equadorian, until recent geological issues. Now I think, its great to do a little archealogical research. Have a great trip and post lots of pics, okay. I love this stuff.

Carmen
19th February 2013, 18:41
Great that you are heading to New Zealand. You are welcome to park up at my farm on your journey South. I'm in North Otago, not that far from Mt Cook ( our highest mountain). Good luck for your trip. Message me if you wish to come and stay here.

TelosianEmbrace
20th February 2013, 00:57
Brother...Ill be home in a week. And my incentive is always the same.... get a car, drive and let the closest you will ever come to mother earth nurture you and take you where your meant to be... have a couple of ideas in concrete and for a portion of your time....GET LOST ...and let the outdoors of gaias best secret flow through you bro!!!!
YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU STAND IN ALL HER GLORY AND BREATHE ....

I hear you, brother. Most important of all will be to feel the land, and to hear her voice. I have realised how unhealthy living in society makes us. When I came back from my trip around Australia I was healthy and tanned- now I am white, have dark rings under my eyes, and other complaints. Let us hope Gaia touches me with her magic once again.


Great that you are heading to New Zealand. You are welcome to park up at my farm on your journey South. I'm in North Otago, not that far from Mt Cook ( our highest mountain). Good luck for your trip. Message me if you wish to come and stay here.

Carmen, thank you for your kind offer. It would be an honour to visit you and park up at your farm for a night. I don't have a firm itinerary yet, but the possible dates I would be passing by would be in the vicinity of the 15th to 19th April. Happy to message you a bit further down the track.

Thanks again,
Guy

KiwiElf
20th February 2013, 01:09
You have to stop at the spieghts (beer)factory in Dunedin. and the chocolate factory. There is even a ghost castle to check out there..


Hahahahah ROFLMAO :D Awesome Benny ;)

daddy fishwick
20th February 2013, 05:17
Hello my friend! I'ts great to hear that you are lucky enough to be visiting Aotearoa! You will not be dissapointed (guaranteed). Should you end up in my neck of the woods, Taranaki, then you are more than welcome to park up at my farm, which is situated close to the base of Mount Taranaki.
Some of the cleanest rivers in the world meander through here and it's just 30 minutes to the mountain to begin your ascent, should you choose to. Thirty minutes to the ocean, with some magnificent diving, snorkeling and fishing available and 40 minutes to the Wanganui national reserve, a national reserve untouched for thousands of years, it's a real hidden gem! Please feel free to pm me, all the best, Mike

Tane Mahuta
20th February 2013, 09:59
Well ok, I will mention a place close to my heart.

20510



http://www.doc.govt.nz/parks-and-recreation/tracks-and-walks/northland/kauri-coast/tane-mahuta-walk/


http://register.notabletrees.org.nz/tree/view/800

http://www.newzealand.com/int/tane-mahuta/

Also there is a site in NZ called "TradeMe.co.nz", it's our version of "ebay".

It has a lot of "kiwiana" NZ things, with a NZ perspective. One can also find

indegenous atifacts also. cheaper than one would find in the tourist stores.

20511

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Default.aspx

nuff said

TM

enjoy!!!

TelosianEmbrace
21st February 2013, 02:55
Hi guys, thanks for some great suggestions! I'm looking them all up one by one and will probably have some questions for some of you about certain locations as the days go by. I particularly want to get up to Kaimanawa Wall and film and photograph it- certainly an intriguing site that looks more like the work of an ancient giant race than the typical pre-Maori Celtic works.... The access road is dirt, and it looks like trees sometimes fall over the road.

Maybe I'll see a Moa, or a Moehau, a giant lizard or even the otter-like waitoreke? It is also said that moose were released many years ago and there might still be a breeding population in the Dusky Sound area. More at Tony Lucas' site www.nzcryptozoology.ucoz.com

torti
13th March 2013, 07:23
Ahhh what fun times ahead for you! New Zealand is a beautiful country with amazing scenery and culture. 13 days does not seem long enough.

Before I start I should add, I have never done diving, so none of my recommendations will include that, but just in case... I hope you can enjoy some of these places...

I spent a year traveling the South Island in my van (Pic's attached), and I did 19,500km and was still not able to see everything!

I will leave out the North Island in my recommendations, as I am biased, and believe the South Island, as a more "wild" and "natural" experience. The South Island, to me, has a sense of power.

Firstly I will comment on Freedom Camping, which is now pretty much illegal in NZ (Thanks to trying to make more money while the Rugby World Cup was held here).

See: http://www.newzealandnz.co.nz/green-camping-guide/rules-about-free-camping.html

Basically some councils, will deliberately hunt out freedom campers to fine you (Queenstown being the worst in my experience).

If your camper van has a self sustainable toilet (it will have a green triangle sticker on the back), you can legally freedom camp in any area not within 500m of a backpackers, holiday park, hotel etc You are also restricted from camping within 50m of a river, stream, beach etc.

But you will find in the South Island, most places are so isolated, you will not get picked on, as long as you don't leave litter/waste behind, people in the South Island are a lot more accepting and welcoming of tourists than the North Island.

In the year I traveled the South Island, I only paid to camp a few times (maybe 10 times in total)... which, yes, was illegal, but whatever, nature belongs to no-one and I didn't disrespect my environment. But my recommendation, if you are not after luxury is DOC (Department of Conservation) campsites, they are cheap, have toilets and water, all the basics you require.

See here for a list of DOC campgrounds... they are pretty much everywhere:
http://www.doc.govt.nz/parks-and-recreation/places-to-stay/conservation-campsites-by-region/

Most people seem to be captivated by the East Coast of the South Island, but in my opinion, most of the East Coast is similar, all the beaches look the same etc, with the exception of the Christchurch Peninsula and the Otago Peninsula (Near Dunedin). If you wish to see seals, sea lions, penguins (mostly the rare yellow-eyed penguin), then you must go and see the Catlins (East of Invercargil and South of Balclutha), beautiful beaches (in summer you can surf with dolphins), an ancient fossil forest, and the yellow eyed penguins (at sunset is best).

In the Golden Bay area, I would recommend 2 main things, firstly, Howard Hole on the Takaka Hill between Motueka and Takaka: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harwood_Hole Just before you get to the Hole, there will be a branch off walkway, if you have the time check that out too, I promise you will not be disappointed (hope you are not afraid of heights!). The second, is Wharariki Beach, this place is like a scene out of Jurassic Park, you must go at low tide, and give yourself a few hours to explore the caves and huge rocks, you may even see baby seals! http://www.newzealand.com/int/article/wharariki-beach-walk-to-cape-farewell/

As you head to the West Coast from the Golden Bay/Marlborough regions, you could make a trip up to Karamea (an hour North from Westport on the West Coast). A dreamy little town (one road in and out... dead end), it is the start (or end... depending on where you start) and NZ's most popular great walk (about 4 days). http://www.doc.govt.nz/parks-and-recreation/tracks-and-walks/nelson-tasman/golden-bay/heaphy-track/. Anyway, if you go to Karamea, my biggest recommendations is to stay at Rongo's backpackers (Eco-freindly, self sustainable, permaculture based learning/teaching environment) http://rongobackpackers.com/. The best 5 weeks of my trip were spent in Karamea! If you can, stop in at the Global Gypsy Gallery in Karamea (and tell Gerar I say hello!)

As you head south along the coast, stop at a place called Fox river Caves (12km north of Punakaiki) , it is easy to miss, as there is pretty much nothing there, but some big caves on the beach, an old historic bridge, caves along the river with glow worms and a bush walk (2 hours one way if I recall correct) to a cave that goes 200m and is an amazing experience (Take a torch!) http://www.punakaiki.co.nz/walks/ - Scroll down to Fox River Caves.

If you are on the West Coast you cannot miss out the Glaciers, there is no way you could miss them.

Don't miss out the Hokitika Gorge!!!

As mentioned before, Wanaka and Queenstown are beautiful, but very touristy, so it depends on the experience you want. If you go to Queenstown, my top recommendation is the Routeburn Track http://www.doc.govt.nz/parks-and-recreation/tracks-and-walks/fiordland/northern-fiordland/routeburn-track/

I would highly recommend Milford Sound... and if you will camp overnight, I would suggest the Cascades Creek campground http://www.doc.govt.nz/parks-and-recreation/places-to-stay/conservation-campsites-by-region/fiordland/northern-fiordland/cascade-creek/. The only reason I say this one, is because if you walk along the river/creek, and if you have the right eyes, and you know what you are looking for, you will find Pounamu! I would advise, traveling as early in the morning as you can, as this area of NZ is always jam packed with busloads of tourists, so avoid them and leave early!

If you can, also do the Lake Marian Walk in Milford Sound, it is about a 3.5 hour walk one way, and it can be hard in parts, but well worth the effort.

If you can, drive the Lewis Pass Road, and Arthurs Pass Road, beautiful!

If you any questions please feel free to ask, my mind is over flowing with recommendations, and this is already turning into a novel!!

And now for some pictures!

Fox River, by the beach:
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Fox River Walkway to the Caves:
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Hokitika Gorge:
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Karamea: Start of Heaphy Track:
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Lake Marian
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torti
13th March 2013, 07:29
Some more pictures!

Milford Sound:
20790

Routeburn Track:
20791

Wharariki Beach:
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See more photo's here:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.376930272377221.86228.100001807537630&type=3

TelosianEmbrace
13th March 2013, 09:03
Those are some delightful images, torti! Certainly I would prefer more time there, but my boss suggested that I was lucky to get even two weeks! Perhaps the world event will occur while I'm touring NZ's South Island and I will subsequently have much more time there! My short sojourn will not hold a candle to your extensive travels, yet at least I will get a taste of that great country. I never realised until the last couple of months how much there is to see and do in NZ. It certainly is a majestic, powerful country!

One thing I am impressed by is incredible, blue water. For this reason I made sure I saw the Blue Holes while in the Solomon Islands and wish at some stage to explore the cenotes in Central America. So Hokitika Gorge is firming as a must see.

I am wondering, torti, if there were any spots where you had a profound spiritual experience, any spots that stood out for you on a personal level. I am sure that I am not the only one interested in hearing more about your journey.

Did I mention that two years ago I drove, dived and camped my way around Australia in my lowly Toyota Echo? Have you considered crossing the Tasman and taking a similar journey around Aus.?

PS. It will take me a while to go over all the links you have posted, and if I have any questions I will be sure to message you!

torti
13th March 2013, 09:17
Those are some delightful images, torti! Certainly I would prefer more time there, but my boss suggested that I was lucky to get even two weeks! Perhaps the world event will occur while I'm touring NZ's South Island and I will subsequently have much more time there! My short sojourn will not hold a candle to your extensive travels, yet at least I will get a taste of that great country. I never realised until the last couple of months how much there is to see and do in NZ. It certainly is a majestic, powerful country!

One thing I am impressed by is incredible, blue water. For this reason I made sure I saw the Blue Holes while in the Solomon Islands and wish at some stage to explore the cenotes in Central America. So Hokitika Gorge is firming as a must see.

I am wondering, torti, if there were any spots where you had a profound spiritual experience, any spots that stood out for you on a personal level. I am sure that I am not the only one interested in hearing more about your journey.

Did I mention that two years ago I drove, dived and camped my way around Australia in my lowly Toyota Echo? Have you considered crossing the Tasman and taking a similar journey around Aus.?

PS. It will take me a while to go over all the links you have posted, and if I have any questions I will be sure to message you!

Ahh, yes Hokitika is beautiful, but be warned of the sand flies (little flies that bite and leave you itchy... which is actually almost all of the West Coast haha)

I felt a shift in myself throughout my whole trip in the South Island, I found anywhere I was surrounded by bush and nature, humbled and energized me. But most of all I would say Karamea. That was the place where I was first guided into being awake. I was surrounded by people talking about things I had never heard of before. I saw a softness in people, a love and a compassion, a lack of material possessions and an abundance of support. It is a community connected to the land from which it came.

Wow, I can imagine how it would take two years to get around Aussie, that place is huge!! :)

I am actually heading to Europe on 1st April for 2 years. The days are counting down and I am becoming so excited!

Timreh
13th March 2013, 12:12
Gotta say after traveling Australia I never thought I would find anything so beautiful but the South Island of NZ well and truly took the cake, it was magical!
Everyone has hit on the spots I would say plus more..

If you want your breath to be taken away visit Milford Sound (if you can muster enough pennies do one of the cruises to see it) ..
Some of the landscape on the to MS reminded me of being lost somewhere in time, far far away

TelosianEmbrace
9th April 2013, 07:16
WooHoooo!!!!!

The first few days of my trip are done and dusted. Day one and I met up with KiwiElf, from here on PA, and Alec Newald. Alec, as many of you know, wrote the book 'Coevolution' about his experiences being taken on board a craft, meeting a race of ET's, and having them take him to their home planet of Haven. Alec had an incredible experience to do with a cult here in NZ, and I have it on video. At some stage, after his power of veto of an edited clip, it may go up on my youtube channel.

Both Alec and KiwiElf have had extreme persecution at the hands of the PTW, and are at the cutting edge of what is allowed to be divulged in this society, and what is not. Something else they both mentioned was sightings of craft being common around where they live, including orange orbs and red glowing balls. Alec showed us both a shot of what appears to be a PIXELLATED CLOUD with a hidden bell shaped UFO within it.

If KiwiElf is reading he is welcome to expand upon his sightings, or what he thought of Alec's 'cloud' UFO.

Dived the world class Poor Knights, some awesome scenery and fish life. Then up to pay a visit to the Waitangi Treaty Grounds and a look at the Bay of Isles.

Today I visited Tapapakanga Regional Park, which, according to Martin Doutre of www.celticnz.co.nz , shows the remains of a pre-Maori settlement.


These solar observatories lie scattered over the length and breadth of New Zealand in whatsoever locations ancient pre-Maori people settled in sizeable numbers. They were very important for checking and regulating the calendar, to keep all planting and harvesting optimised and happening on the correct days during the year, thus ensuring the greatest chance of abundant returns.

Researcher, Barry Taylor squats down in a specially built, ancient sighting pit at Tapapakanga Park, near Thames, NZ to observe the Southern Hemisphere's Winter Solstice sunrise on the distant Coromandel Ranges. From the hilltop sighting pit, which was built by the ancient Patu-paiarehe surveyor-astronomers, the Winter Solstice sun gives a very precise "first glint" fix in a conspicuous "V" trough on the range.

The ancient people built a large beehive house, hovel dome village at Tapapakanga, complete with two large ampitheatres, a stone-lined water course and many mounds or other structures in the sheltered valley by the sea. The late-era Maori warriors attacked them and survivors fled into the seclusion of the rugged Coromandel and Hunua Ranges to hide.

Down in the valley where the remains of the village structures are found, Barry stands on a specially built hump that relates to both the Winter Solstice and Equinox sunrises. An arrow is shown ascending from the sighting pit up on the hill where he earlier observed the Winter Solstice sunrise to occur on the Coromandel Ranges. From the valley hump position the sun rises from the hilltop pit. In other words, an individual standing in the sighting pit up on the hill became the outer-marker for another observer down at the valley hump to get a precise fix on the Winter Solstice day. The high ranges are often enshrouded in clouds, so this second, somewhat less accurate method offered an alternative fix.

From the purpose-built hump that Barry is standing upon, the view eastwards is onto this impressive geological feature on the distant Coromandel Ranges. On the day of the Equinox the sun rises on the magnificent outer marker and this bi-annual occurrence gave ancient New Zealand astronomers at Tapapakanga a very exact calendar fix for both the Vernal and Autumn Equinoxes.

The equinoctial sun launches itself into the sky from the position of the impressive geological feature on the Coromandel Ranges. This photo-event heralded the beginning of New Zealand's Autumn for 2010. Tapapakanga Park's purpose-built hump solar-observatory, therefore, works perfectly to give Winter Solstice and Equinox fixes and now only needs to be tested at the Summer Solstice to see if a clear outer marker exists for that solar event also. It would be impossible to state just how many of these solar observatories existed around New Zealand in ancient times, but the number would assuredly be in the thousands, if not the tens of thousands. Many survive and still work perfectly. Wherever an ancient, pre-Maori established community existed, a purpose-built solar observatory would invariably exist somewhere nearby to serve their calendar-correction needs.
ANCIENT NEW ZEALAND SURVEYORS & ASTRONOMERS | celticnz.co.nz

Went for a dip in a thermal pool here in Rotorua.. the perfect tonic to a day's driving. Hope to visit Kaimanawa Wall tomorrow. Once again, I thank you all for your kind offers.

daddy fishwick, looks like I might not be able to get over to Taranaki, we'll see. I didn't even visit Opito Bay, it just seems a bit too far to get there and then double back in the time I have... oh to have longer.

Hermite
9th April 2013, 08:08
What fun! Happy travels and thanks for sharing.

sheme
9th April 2013, 09:46
I did something similar about five years ago.

Getting from A to B can be a drivers nightmare accidents are frequent. I seemed to spend my holiday going around in ever decreasing circles dangling over tree tops.

If you go in April the season is at an end and you may be wanting for fellow travelers - seasonal places are often closed.

You will find a museum every 20 miles or so, most of the great trees have been cut down, and replaced with cone forests.

You can smell a cattle wagon 5 kilometers away as they discharge their effluent as they drive along, the dairy cows all have their tails cut off. Hideous practice, quite an eye opener.

The people are private but friendly if you talk to them.

The sand flies are evil and most entertainment we had was watching the folks reverse their boats into the water from the concrete launch ramps.

If you free camp make sure you are not on a dry river bed, if you damage or scratch your vehicle get it fixed before you take it back, very obliging spray shops.(one young couple had their hire car taken away from them no replacement, no refund)

The sea food is second to none .

The Trust camp sites are beautiful, and the birds song exotic. I suggest you get as many contacts as possible before you go just so you have a chance to talk to someone.

Health and safety does not rule in NZ just be aware if it looks dangerous it is dangerous no one will stop you. Worst thing the days are too short for a decent holiday at that time of year.

You will have a wonderful holiday.