Life in the Greater Community

[Snowbird]

Life is now getting serious. We are now in the fast lane of life in the universe. And, we have no understanding who are our neighbors. Its not like we can go out our front door and walk over to the house next door and knock and meet and greet. Our universal neighbors are literally light years away.

This is where Marshall Vian Summers comes in. I'm sitting at my computer and attempting to describe what I have just experienced in the video messages below. The first video is MVS himself, speaking to introduce the "briefings" contained in the 17 total videos, the first of which I have posted below. The information in these videos is given by a representative of an off-world group of universal civilizations some of which, have experienced very similar hostile takeovers such as our earthly humanity is now experiencing.

This universal group rep describes the agenda(s) of what she terms, the visitors, in briefings that are extended to us in the form of information to help us to become grounded in knowledge. It is explained several times that our knowledge is our power against these visitors. It is explained that the visitors' intentions are for their own benefit by gaining our trust by way of the manipulation of our thoughts and emotions, and seeking the path of least resistance because of their small numbers. Their goal is clearly described in a number of variations.

This is definitely a make-it or break-it situation that we are facing.



Marshall Vian Summers
"The Reality of Life in the Universe"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_EELDpSle4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_EELDpSle4&feature=related


Allies of Humanity 1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lX9wURB2M8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lX9wURB2M8&feature=related


Allies Of Humanity

http://www.alliesofhumanity.org/

[wynderer]

Hi Snowbird -- when living in Boulder i went to Marshall Vian Summer's modest center -- i think called the Greater Community Sanctuary? -- i had read his books & what he says in them agrees w/my intuitions/experiences of what is going on -- tho i was kind of put off by the worshipful reverence in which Marshall & the being he channeled were held by his followers -- also i am not so sure that knowledge alone will get us out of this mess, either individually or collectively

but the warnings from him & the ETs he is speaking for -- i wish people would listen, i wish all humanity would listen -- they are not listening, & things look pretty grim

[jaybee]

Snowbird...et al.....

I have just watched the 2 videos on your OP.


Here are MY observations..


First....Marshall Vian Summers.....I don't know why HE presumes to know so much?


THEN.... The 'Allies of Humanity' one....(I've only listened to the first one)

OK.... I notice that a female image is used to represent HIS? ideas.
And the mechanical voice is not very nice. I am turned OFF by this
usage of robot-like expression.

It is stated with absolute confidence that we are being visited by several different
races...... but we must remember that there is NO ACTUAL EVIDENCE of this...
apart from what PEOPLE SAY.....and maybe what they would WANT us to believe.


The bit about our use of nuclear weapons bringing them to our shores.... well in
some way this COULD be correct... (IMO)....messing about with plutonium etc
could open up a space/time rift..or what-ever....to other dimensions of existence.
But this doesn't mean that there are a load of 'baddies' just trying to 'get in'...


'She' (ie...HE...Marshall Vian Summers)...says that these..speculated groups are
not here for the advancement or spiritual education of humanity....but is expecting
us to just accept that SHE/HE is.... ???


There is talk about...resources, colonization, technology, competition, trade,
barter, alliances, conflict, collaboration, influence, sophisticated use of power....

Well.....this to me sounds like Marshall Vian Summers...is projecting his own...
very human, male perception and perspective....onto the so-called 'alens'....

Or he MIGHT even be trying to bring down the energy diliberately? For reasons
know best to himself?

There is a message of powerlessness...that we can't plan for ourselves...that
we can't design for our own future.....although SHE/HE doesn't want us to be
fearful.....lol.

The bogey-man has always been used, by some, to frighten children and bring them
into line...... and in all honesty this is the feeling I get from this 'presentation'.

Sorry..... I don't buy it. And I definitely won't be buying the book.


:grouphug:

[wynderer]

Snowbird...et al.....

I have just watched the 2 videos on your OP.


Here are MY observations..


First....Marshall Vian Summers.....I don't know why HE presumes to know so much?


THEN.... The 'Allies of Humanity' one....(I've only listened to the first one)

OK.... I notice that a female image is used to represent HIS? ideas.
And the mechanical voice is not very nice. I am turned OFF by this
usage of robot-like expression.

It is stated with absolute confidence that we are being visited by several different
races...... but we must remember that there is NO ACTUAL EVIDENCE of this...
apart from what PEOPLE SAY.....and maybe what they would WANT us to believe.


The bit about our use of nuclear weapons bringing them to our shores.... well in
some way this COULD be correct... (IMO)....messing about with plutonium etc
could open up a space/time rift..or what-ever....to other dimensions of existence.
But this doesn't mean that there are a load of 'baddies' just trying to 'get in'...


'She' (ie...HE...Marshall Vian Summers)...says that these..speculated groups are
not here for the advancement or spiritual education of humanity....but is expecting
us to just accept that SHE/HE is.... ???


There is talk about...resources, colonization, technology, competition, trade,
barter, alliances, conflict, collaboration, influence, sophisticated use of power....

Well.....this to me sounds like Marshall Vian Summers...is projecting his own...
very human, male perception and perspective....onto the so-called 'alens'....

Or he MIGHT even be trying to bring down the energy diliberately? For reasons
know best to himself?

There is a message of powerlessness...that we can't plan for ourselves...that
we can't design for our own future.....although SHE/HE doesn't want us to be
fearful.....lol.

The bogey-man has always been used, by some, to frighten children and bring them
into line...... and in all honesty this is the feeling I get from this 'presentation'.

Sorry..... I don't buy it. And I definitely won't be buying the book.


:grouphug:

Jaybee, does it really look to you like everything is hunky dory here on planet Earth? really? like it's so great here for all the biological life forms that it is utterly beyond the realm of possibility that there are non-human beings who do not have the best interests of Earth & her rightful inhabitants at heart?

then too, on the home page of this forum is the bit Bill put on there re Credo Mutwa & David Icke & the theft of the necklace-- both of these men speak about the reptilian behind-the-scenes control of Earth -- so presumably what M Vian Summers is talking about is not a brand new concept to you?

the megacorp rep lied to me about when they would disconnect my service -- i wish they'd hurry up because i know my posts are showing my greater & greater irritation at some of what is posted on this forum, & i don't want to step over the line & become really rude -- like right now i am thinking that i can sometimes understand why the reptilians think humans are really stupid -- the truth is right in your faces & you refuse to see it --

[jaybee]

Well.......someone thinks humans are stupid perhaps...but that could be some OTHER HUMANS.......lol.


As always...I will make up my OWN mind about STUFF.....

Cheers....

[wynderer]

Well.......someone thinks humans are stupid perhaps...but that could be some OTHER HUMANS.......lol.


As always...I will make up my OWN mind about STUFF.....

Cheers....

Jaybee, it is a fact that reptilians hold humans in contempt & consider us stupid -- this does not come from me

i fought against a Draco precisely because of that attitude of theirs-- if you don't understand that what so many seem to perceive as my negativity comes from my deep concern about the fate of humanity -- it's beginning to seem like a kill the messenger thing going on here, w/me being the messenger -- not just me -- there are a few others here, oddly enough those also w/the gifts of Seeing, who post along my lines

[Snowbird]

Hi Snowbird -- when living in Boulder i went to Marshall Vian Summer's modest center -- i think called the Greater Community Sanctuary? -- i had read his books & what he says in them agrees w/my intuitions/experiences of what is going on -- tho i was kind of put off by the worshipful reverence in which Marshall & the being he channeled were held by his followers -- also i am not so sure that knowledge alone will get us out of this mess, either individually or collectively

but the warnings from him & the ETs he is speaking for -- i wish people would listen, i wish all humanity would listen -- they are not listening, & things look pretty grim

Wynderer, there will always be, what I call groupies. These follow, sometimes blindly, because they have trouble standing on their own feet. This however, does not mean that each and every person involved with or closely associated with any organization is a groupie. At the very least, these adoring fans are being taught some very valuable information coming from Allies Of Humanity.

I still haven't gotten straight in my mind how this whole thing will play out. As I write this and you read this, we are surrounded by different dimensions and timelines and densities. From what I understand from many many sources, when the great shift happens, there will be additional dimensions and timelines and densities and some people, animals and vegetation, whose densities or vibratory states are higher, will find themselves residing in a different dimension. This does not mean that one group is better than another, but does mean that there are those who will follow the beings just like the groupies and we don't know, if this is their true path.

The reason that I keep repeating this stance over and over is because I believe that those who are not knowledgeable about what is going on around them and continue to cling to whatever they are told from the pulpit or their local guru, will become literally ripe pickins for these off-world forces that are attempting to take over planet earth. Knowledge is power. This is the very reason that we, collectively, come to forums like PA and PC. These forums are overflowing with what is currently happening. Its this knowledge that will help to keep many from the clutches of what is coming at us. These people who are interested in knowledge, growth and understanding, will be those who openly or quietly give this information their attention.

[Snowbird]

Snowbird...et al.....

I have just watched the 2 videos on your OP.

Just the two videos that are showing Jaybee, and not the 18 that fully explain what is being conveyed?


Here are MY observations..

Okay, I'm ready. :hug:


First....Marshall Vian Summers.....I don't know why HE presumes to know so much?

Marshall Vian Summers, I believe, was sent to this earth to help as many people as possible to open they eyes and ears to the understanding of what is going on around them. He has been entrusted with a great deal of very helpful and valuable information. His message and efforts very much parallel Bill Ryan's and Kerry Cassidy's and that of many others.


OK.... I notice that a female image is used to represent HIS? ideas.
And the mechanical voice is not very nice. I am turned OFF by this
usage of robot-like expression.

Well no. Its the other way around. HE, Marshall Vian Summers, is used to represent (with his express permission) the knowledge and understanding of this small group of off-world beings who have been through, and survived, the onslaught of malevolent beings who are currently and valiantly attempting to control our earth.

The mechanical voice is for us, rather difficult to listen to. However, as is explained in the first video, this transmission is coming straight from this benevolent off-world group that don't speak our language and most probably don't speak at all. This communication is sent to us for our benefit. This technology is different, but I have to applaud the fact that they care enough about our global society to take the time and great effort to send us this message.


It is stated with absolute confidence that we are being visited by several different
races...... but we must remember that there is NO ACTUAL EVIDENCE of this...
apart from what PEOPLE SAY.....and maybe what they would WANT us to believe.

Jaybee, the evidence is everywhere. Your statement above, is no different than someone demanding proof (that word again) that gravity is real. How do you prove it? There is more than very strong evidence that several groups of malevolent off-world groups have invaded our world civilization. Their goal is to OWN the biological riches of planet earth. The people? Not important to them with the exception of a small population who will be encouraged to worship them and be taught to call them Master.


The bit about our use of nuclear weapons bringing them to our shores.... well in
some way this COULD be correct... (IMO)....messing about with plutonium etc
could open up a space/time rift..or what-ever....to other dimensions of existence.
But this doesn't mean that there are a load of 'baddies' just trying to 'get in'...

Without going into deep explanation, it Was the atomic bomb(s) that were exploded that caught the attention of off-world groups and brought them to our shores...both the 'goodies' and the 'baddies'. Nuclear detonations bring gross harm to everything everywhere, here on earth and out in the universe.



'She' (ie...HE...Marshall Vian Summers)...says that these..speculated groups are
not here for the advancement or spiritual education of humanity....but is expecting
us to just accept that SHE/HE is.... ???

The several briefings from these benevolent off-world groups do not attempt to (at least at this point) sway certain aspects of humanity's spiritual education. They do however, caution us to take a good long look into what we are being taught by religious leaders. In fact, they caution us to be wary of what we are being taught by both religious leaders and the worlds' governments. :pray:

I listened closely to all 18 audios and took notes while I listened. What this being states in the first video, is correct. These audio/videos are specifically made by this off-world benevolent group to advise us to use caution and great discernment in every aspect of our lives.


There is talk about...resources, colonization, technology, competition, trade,
barter, alliances, conflict, collaboration, influence, sophisticated use of power....

Well.....this to me sounds like Marshall Vian Summers...is projecting his own...
very human, male perception and perspective....onto the so-called 'alens'....

Again, Marshall Vian Summers was chosen by this benevolent off-world group to help, as a human representative on earth, to bring this message of caution from these collective small civilizations who have suffered and survived the force that is now attempting to take over our earth.


Or he MIGHT even be trying to bring down the energy diliberately? For reasons
know best to himself?

Again, he was chosen by them. In a positive sense, you are correct. But, They, approached him. He, did not approach them.


There is a message of powerlessness...that we can't plan for ourselves...that
we can't design for our own future.....although SHE/HE doesn't want us to be
fearful.....lol.

They do put forth a message of powerlessness for those who make a decision to follow these negative off-world visitors. They are making great attempt to educate us all so that we will not fall into the trap of deifying the negative visitors :hail:who are already in our midst and are seeking a stronghold over us and our earth. Knowledge is power. This is the reason that they advise us to become educated about this horrendous issue facing us. We are powerful when we are knowledgeable. We are not a part of the groupies when we know how to stand on our own two feet. Knowledge, overrides fear.


The bogey-man has always been used, by some, to frighten children and bring them
into line...... and in all honesty this is the feeling I get from this 'presentation'.

You are quite right. This bogey-man is quite real and very active. :spider:

[Zook]

Hi Wynderer,


Jaybee, it is a fact that reptilians hold humans in contempt & consider us stupid -- this does not come from me

i fought against a Draco precisely because of that attitude of theirs-- if you don't understand that what so many seem to perceive as my negativity comes from my deep concern about the fate of humanity -- it's beginning to seem like a kill the messenger thing going on here, w/me being the messenger -- not just me -- there are a few others here, oddly enough those also w/the gifts of Seeing, who post along my lines

My own two cents and sixth sense about this Marshall guy ... is that he is not genuine. Now, I cannot exclude the possibility of reptileans, extraterrestial beings , and/or interdimensional entities; indeed, I'm leaning towards the probability of their existence. However, this Allies for Humanity thingy feels artificial and contrived to me.

My first red flag, is the commercial angle; it seems incredible that Earth-redefining truths would be peddled for profit. What need would extraterrestial sapience/sentience have for money, and why would they choose those humans that seek personal material profit, for information channeling? I mean, this is why I have some reservations about David Icke as well, but at least Icke doesn't attempt brainwashing techniques (monotone voice; attractive female imagery and voiceover; zombie-like delivery; etc.). This Marshall guy obviously does. Icke appears to really believe in the stuff, which is why he is more convincing. This Marshall guy, by contrast, appears to be performing, you know, a new age variant of the legerdemain more commonly associated to David Copperfield, Kreskin, Barbara Walters, and many other witting and unwitting caricatures of human beings.

Although I share your concern about possible reptileans and reptilean agendae, I have to agree with Mother Jayne as far as this Marshall character is concerned.


Cheers
Uncle Zook

[jaybee]

Snowbird....:wave:

Thanks for the fulsome reply....although as you probably suspect...I stand by what I said..

If I have time I might research this guy a bit more....

The whys and wherefors of the sorry state of humanity is a big subject.

The bogey-man is not real. It is a way to frighten people.

I am no way convinced that negative ETs are to blame for the way things are here
on earth.

Humans are more than capable of stuffing up, all by themselves, IMO.

I actually think we humans are probably some kind of genetically engineered hybrid.
And that we have 'family' in other places in the universe.

I am very wary of people who are actively trying to bring the energy level down....at this
important time in modern history.

Yes...knowledge IS power.

But I think we have to be very careful that we are receiving actual knowledge....and
not made-up stuff.

People can be so easily lead astray.... deliberately...or accidently.

To thine own self be true.....and all that jazz......:thumb:




Hey......Uncle Zook.....we agree on something......yay! :wave:

[Snowbird]

Snowbird....:wave:

Thanks for the fulsome reply....although as you probably suspect...I stand by what I said..

If I have time I might research this guy a bit more....

The whys and wherefors of the sorry state of humanity is a big subject.

The bogey-man is not real. It is a way to frighten people.

According to Webster's Dictionary, the word fulsome means disgustingly excessive, offensive or insincere.

It is possible that you accidentally used the wrong word, but I want to assure you that my post, although comprehensive, was sincere and that I did not mean to be offensive.

Believe it or not, I respect your opinion. It doesn't matter that I don't agree with it. What matters is that we have both/each taken a stand and have the ability to rationally discuss and debate this and other issues.

I look very forward to our next disagreement! :flame:

[jaybee]

According to Webster's Dictionary, the word fulsome means disgustingly excessive, offensive or insincere.

I think you must have MISSED the other meaning for the word...


http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/definitions/fulsome?cx=partner-pub-0939450753529744%3Av0qd01-tdlq&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=UTF-8&q=fulsome&sa=Search#922


2. Full; abundant; plenteous; not shriveled.[Websters]


and


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fulsome



b : generous in amount, extent, or spirit <the passengers were fulsome in praise of the plane's crew — Don Oliver> <a fulsome victory for the far left — Bruce Rothwell> <the greetings have been fulsome, the farewells tender — Simon Gray>



snowbird said...

It is possible that you accidentally used the wrong word, but I want to assure you that my post, although comprehensive, was sincere and that I did not mean to be offensive.


I didn't use the wrong word....but it is true to say that I wasn't aware of all the
negative meanings.....I won't be using it again. .:blink:



Believe it or not, I respect your opinion. It doesn't matter that I don't agree with it. What matters is that we have both/each taken a stand and have the ability to rationally discuss and debate this and other issues.

Agreed.


I look very forward to our next disagreement! :flame:

LOL.....I'm not sure that this one is finished yet. But it probably is.


I have done a bit of research on this guy Marshall Vian Summers.... and I now feel
that my initial suspiscions were correct.

Basically he is someone who CLAIMS to have messages from God.

Is the receiver of A New Message from God...no less.

I just think he is jumping on the bandwagon with the 'alien' thing.

[Kulapops]

I don't buy it either... because .. in a hundred different colours the message is the same.

There is a root message underneath so much of this stuff... just as sex sells advertising... fear seems to sell concepts.

Now of course I can't know everything that goes on in the world... and what has happened personally to others. But what I do notice is a commonality of theme. It doesn't seem to matter if that's black ops... imminent financial calamity, imminent invasion, imminent nuclear war, imminent biological plague, imminent extinction of the human race, or imminent disclosure, or imminent DNA ascension, or imminent harvesting of our souls, or imminent pollution of the entire worlds oceans by an oil spill, or imminent....

Have you spotted the connection yet ?

There are many topics of which I know nothing. But if I spot the 'imminent' card being played... I smell a fish immediately (make that 'imminently').

I know some can scream.. 'but what are you doing with your head in the sand? This is a time to prepare, take action, wave your hands in the air...!'

To which I can only say I can only act on that which is in front of me.

the imminent stuff will have to wait for action until it gets here. (and that might just be a little while folks...)

I understand your frustrations Wynderer.. I have the same frustrations as to why we can't just get on with our lives . Our lives, not Marshal vian Summer's life, or any other self stlyed bringer of 'information' for that matter

K (each to our own I guess)

[Snowbird]

Fair enough, Jaybee. I am the one then who owes you an apology for another knee-jerk reaction to something that is obviously quite the opposite from my assumption. I automatically assumed the negative when indeed it was the opposite. For that, I genuinely apologize. :nod:

[Snowbird]

I don't buy it either... because .. in a hundred different colours the message is the same.

There is a root message underneath so much of this stuff... just as sex sells advertising... fear seems to sell concepts.

Now of course I can't know everything that goes on in the world... and what has happened personally to others. But what I do notice is a commonality of theme. It doesn't seem to matter if that's black ops... imminent financial calamity, imminent invasion, imminent nuclear war, imminent biological plague, imminent extinction of the human race, or imminent disclosure, or imminent DNA ascension, or imminent harvesting of our souls, or imminent pollution of the entire worlds oceans by an oil spill, or imminent....

Have you spotted the connection yet ?

There are many topics of which I know nothing. But if I spot the 'imminent' card being played... I smell a fish immediately (make that 'imminently').

I know some can scream.. 'but what are you doing with your head in the sand? This is a time to prepare, take action, wave your hands in the air...!'

To which I can only say I can only act on that which is in front of me.

the imminent stuff will have to wait for action until it gets here. (and that might just be a little while folks...)

I understand your frustrations Wynderer.. I have the same frustrations as to why we can't just get on with our lives . Our lives, not Marshal vian Summer's life, or any other self stlyed bringer of 'information' for that matter

K (each to our own I guess)

Hi Kulapops! I'm responding to your post without the understanding of whether or not you sat through all 18 vids and fully listened to what the being (she) was stating. Actually, the information that she stated had really very little new content to it. In other words, simply from our own active participation on Projects Avalon and Camelot, we have learned most of what she conveyed. Fear, was not a part of the message unless, the listener had not heard any of this info before these vids. What she did do, which I happened to appreciate, was to inform. She gave us an overview of that which Bill and Kerry and Jordan and David and David and etc....have already discussed out in the open. I did however, accept this info as from a different and more unique perspective. I appreciate hearing from benevolent off-world beings who have our interests at heart.

Now, did I believe her and Marshall Vian Summers to a point that I would simply follow them like the Pied Piper into the abyss? No. Was I wearing rose-colored-glasses while listening? Again, no. I found her information to be a part or piece of the puzzle that we are all/each attempting to complete before the calendar approaches 2012.

The imminence of it all, is just that. We know that off-world beings are here among us and have been here among us for millennia in one form or another and to one degree or another. We are them. They are us. Some are benevolent and some are malevolent. Some, genuinely desire to see our planet and its population survive and others don't give a rat's a** about any of the above. So yes, imminent it is.

But having stated this, I also do not think that you are wrong or that you should auto-embrace MVS or anyone else for that matter. You have to be your own person. Just ask Jaybee. :yes4:

[Kulapops]

Thanks snowbird... and I respect everyone's right to have their own beliefs. Whatever floats your boat..etc etc. I certainly don't have any answers, I can only offer my opinions into the debate. I'd no more expect anyone to take my word for it than anyone else's.

However 'Acutally.. the information contained had very little new in it...' is exactly the reason why I didn't watch a single one of those vids. I think I've seen enough vids now to see they're all much of a muchness, and nothing peddled is really anything that hasn't been peddled before. (just more snake oil in my opinion.. but there y' go). Actually.. I think the day there is really anything particularly 'hot' to discuss, we'll probably here it first from one of our members here on the forum who is probably apt to start a thread on whatever it is.

Trouble is, so far for me, I've yet to find a decent thread like that containing anything 'hot' and believable about the future.

I enjoy all the esoteric stuff.. because I can feel that. And I'm sure there are aliens.. they may even be among us as some say. They may even have a finger poised over the 'rape soul' button in their little ships for all I know, or they may be about to bestow mind blowing orgasms on each and every one of us in ten minute bursts one evening....

But I'm a practical kinda guy.. so I'm kinda waiting for some of the actual foretelling to actually happen... and while I'm waiting.. I've noticed, it's actually a lot more fun to get involved in your own life...and make real things happen you can tell your friends about.. rather than boring them sideways with constant tales of imminent derring do...

Much love...

K :)

[Steven]

Hi SnowBird,

I have read a few books from MVS, Allies of Humanity book 1 and 2, Step to knowledge and Life in the greater community. I also saw many interview of him.

The message this man carries is corroborated by a lot of other people like, Alex Collier, the message in the New Paradigm books, the interpretation of the summerian tablets by Sitchin, Credo Mutwa's testemony, and more...

I can assure you that there is a powerful message brought in all his books, especially Step to Knowledge. It is a paradigm shifter, totally.

Namaste, Steven