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Carmody
21st September 2010, 17:13
In another thread, I made a comment on the subject... which was... 'are we actually in a war proper, right now? Are things finally moving to that point?' I made a short incomplete reply that details one of the very core reasons why this 'war' is unrecognizable and why it is hidden. It's not exactly what most people think, and they may know this, to some degree, but the point of this thread is that this essential understanding I speak of... really needs to be 'front and center' in people's minds, in order to get them to understand the validity of the point. I feel it is important to have people understand the point. Feel. Interesting choice of a word, as you will hopefully come to understand....

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A critical point is that this thread is hopefully not devolve into a critique of my analysis of the fundamentals of psychology and similar physiological connectivity. This is not about that with regard to pushing tiny rocks into into accepted points of terminology or accepted reference and nomenclature. That is not the point. If thinking of doing so, bite your tongue, the one that is trying hard to express the exact root problem of the thread itself, which includes one of not devolving the conversation past and out of what it is trying to communicate.
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Most of this doubles back to ego issues as this one point is a fundamental reflection of the ego's influence as it describes, in a nutshell, the connective tissue and constructional details of the emergence of the ego in the human mind.

And the point being, is that this is the exact point that is holding mankind from breaking into direct knowledge and direct internal affirmation of the reality of a giant hidden war that is against man.

This whole spiritual revival and advancement of man also hits this exact nail on the head. So, in essence this is one of those 'nexus points' in this ongoing process 'where the rubber meets the road', so to speak and the point at which much will -and is- happening.

Recognition of this point is critical , with regard to recognizing it's true shape, existence, and it's influence in the mental and physical process of coming to terms with the current world AND internal processes of the correction of mankind into something more evolved.

One cannot make a positive move forward without a quality and critical review of the truth of the base information that is in hand -before the move or action.

We can and do all tell ourselves at times and recognize the same in others..that, at times, in certain situations 'we cannot deal with' the emotional ramifications of a given situation.

The very point here, is to understand the core actual reasons, so we can begin building a knowledge base of how to deal with the core actual reasons for this situation of inaction that exists in man. What the point is, is the 'internal hierarchy' that man uses to confront and deal with issues.

For example, we cannot mentally ruminate on a problem until we have an intellectually grasped information set with which to actually commit the act of 'thinking and grasping', ie to cognate.. -upon.

Now, in the origins of the human mind, the design parameters and how we 'come up' as children and then into adulthood also play out on each and every action we commit to or problem set we consider.

The important point to understand is this specific point is manipulated and used by all business, corporate, military, religious, and political machinery in existence today.

Now for some of the more salient bits.


The organization is one of reptilian mind core, the baser actions tied to direct stimulus input, ie the base programming of action- reaction. Burn cut, pain, the base reaction of withdrawal. and all associated similar functions that are without intellectual input. Then comes base condition, reaction, ie base emotions. hungry-cry. pain-cry. Fear -cry-shake. etc. Then comes the higher emotional sets, like desire -motion toward. reproduction, needs for furthering existence, etc. Hungry eat, desire, sex (but not yet established in childhood but needs to exist as part of the system from the get-go). Then the idea of communication beyond the base desires and fears, where we begin learning the art of communicating our emotions. Some could and some do equate this with the baser aspects of primal or primate function. Ie, some of us calling our kids 'little monkeys'. For good reason.

Then we get into the beginnings of verbal communication and that is where the base problem or item in question that is part of the issue, begins to evolve into existence. We learn to talk, but we are still talking through the voice of the primate functions, as our capacity for deduction, through the beginnings of the understandings of time, begins to take shape.

As we finally, for most of us, around the age of 5 begin to understand the concept of death, we also look around and see the shape of the adults is notably different than our own. We begin to understand 'moving to' and 'coming from'. Ie temporal flow and us in it. Going to toy store. Daddy coming home, had breakfast, waiting for him to come home. Sleep later, etc. organized temporal flow with direction.

It is at this point that we begin to institute the idea of the ego into our minds via the hearing of the voice in our heads as us 'thinking things out', for the first time. We finally ascend into rumination and thought that is outside of immediate communication of emotional and animal base issues.

And the ego develops, it develops from the internal conversation created in our minds that is derived from and based on our emotional parameters. In essence, our internal voice, the ego, is based upon and emanates out of our emotional core of being. So, in essence, every thought we have, came from an emotional base. Emotions shape our very thoughts and thought process.

And thus our very idea of being is permeated or stinks of, our emotions. All, no exceptions. The point being that the internal voice is not intellect, it is an emotional origin system and has little to noting to do with intellect. The intellect can reflect upon it and the emotional base will form the thought into a pattern of internal voice emanations. But the intellect is not speaking, the emotional origins of the base animal is what is 'driving'. The intellect is using the extant tool that has been created through the learning of the animal to have a communication or 'voice box'. So, the ego is the 'voice box' tool of the animal hierarchy that has been learned as a set pattern in the wiring of the psychical mind, through the given individual child-growth process. The intellect is forced to use it as a in-out information gathering and expression point, that is all.

Hopefully you can now see that the internal voice is ego and body derived and is not intellect.


So one can then understand the very important point of knowing of this distinction. Thus the very critical function of evolution in man which is the dumping of the ego construct for true intellectual control of the human embodiment of soul. However, the ego, not having intellectual constructs to work with, having only a voice or pattern expression aspect to it's construction- deals with fears and desires. The intellect uses it for patterned bits of communication, ie voice, but the ego is not thought or intellect itself. Meaning, the voice in your head reading these words, is not the intellect or mind itself. Iit is the learned-patterned communication system that is derived from the base system, this evolved communication system that we call the ego construct.

Now, even as adults, when we reach out into the world, into hidden unknowns, we reach out with the ego construct and it's emotional and animal origins. We reach out with desires and fears, to attempt to organize the fundamental points of our mechanical system of origins with respect to preservation of the body or vehicle..FIRST AND ALWAYS. Each and every thought emanation of the internal voice has to pass the test of safety and or danger. ie fear, desire, etc have to pass first, and no exceptions.

Thus.... the understandings in our minds that we cannot think when we are emotional. Emotions are part of the internal mechanism that shapes our ego derived voice, so the voice is silenced during emotional passages, as the emotions are in charge.

Recall, ego is NOT the intellect or higher function. it is important to understand that you should not allow the ego to speak for the intellect. even though,as you exist now..it most specifically DOES, as you allow it. It is all you know.

This leads to the understanding that the voice in your head, the one you confuse with intellect... is actually..autonomous function, like sexual excitation, fear, desire, pain response and is not intellect or higher understanding and thoughts. It is exactly that and those things, and it is, through fear of death and destruction, shaping your every single thought and intellectual rumination,and/or every attempt to logically understand the world around you.

So, to circle around to the beginning, it can maybe become clear to the reader that the point of keeping one in a state of unknowing of the shape and purpose of the enemy, which appears to be within society,among us....is that the emotions will rule the intellectual process of deduction on the part of the individual....and the emotions will do their best to keep the individual safe and happy though fear and desire.

The autonomous function of the body is dictating to the individual that these things cannot be real as doubt exists (reach out into unknowns through the base animal system, recall the hierarchy of the decision tree in the human animal) in the mind and thus emotions are ruling the intellectual thinking process. Remember that the intellectual process is also colored by emotions, and at the core level. The ego underlies and shapes every thought.

Which is why it needs to be sublimated and taken out of the path of thought. mankind, right now, in this hidden war, due to the point required for doubt to be removed -not being there, is being ruled by emotional considerations ruling the intellectual process of understanding the shape and face of the enemy, and also the point of...if the enemy itself -even exists.

Which is why the war is hidden. They can rely upon your emotions to drive you into not dealing with these doubts and unknowns.....on the correct intellectual level.


They know you.



I may expand a bit on this later, but I need to get to work, here!

lake
7th August 2015, 07:50
So could one say that the psychopath has a clearer or quieter ego voice than the completely different species called mankind?

I hope you do expand on this, albeit MUCH more than a 'bit' later as I'm sure your back from work by now!

lake
7th August 2015, 09:40
Just found this short conversation here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?42360-Welcome-to-The-Pub-At-the-End-of-the-Universe.&p=493113&viewfull=1#post493113) which fits in with this thread....



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Posted by PurpleLama
I do wonder, could not a thought of the mind virus not be seen as the virus, itself?

Would one of it's modus operandi not primarily consist in the corruption of the very things that could be most helpful it the exposure and removal of the virus, itself?


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Posted by another bob
You're getting warm, Brother!

Ego-mind will congratulate itself on how well it's doing transcending ego-mind. It will be right there in the front ranks, battling itself for the glory and honor of . . . yep -- ego-mind!Ego-mind (aka "the virus") can co-opt even your most profound realizations, taking the credit for how well it's seeing through and "hacking" itself. In fact, the very movement and impulse to fight the virus is prompted by the virus itself -- that's how it survives so well, by ensuring that a perpetual state of war exists (not unlike certain governments). The last thing it wants is to become obsolete through lack of attention. The last sound it ever wants to hear is silence.The mind which falls into its inherent and prior silence is not interesting to the ego-mind, which thrives on conflict. Consequently, sages and shamans recommend cultivating the discipline of inner silence.

"The grand trick of those sorcerers of ancient times was to burden the flyers' mind with discipline. Sorcerers found out that if they taxed the flyers' mind with inner silence, the foreign installation would flee, and give any one of the practitioners involved in this maneuver the total certainty of the mind's foreign origin." ~Don Juan Matus

"Whatever happens in consciousness is purely imaginary, a hallucination. Therefore keep in mind the knowledge that it is consciousness in which everything is happening. With that knowledge, be still, do not pursue any other thoughts which arise in consciousness."
~Sri Nisargadatta


The two quotes above coincide in describing the method of liberation, but it is not a path most will undertake, because of the tremendous discipline involved. In the Bhagavad Gita, Krishna told Arjuna that, out of millions, only a few will seek for the truth, and out of those who do, only a few will realize. Even given these slim odds, however, what is the alternative? To be a slave? If one is earnest enough in their desire for freedom, they will do what it takes, even unto death. In fact, it's precisely that death that the mystics and realizers throughout the centuries have spoken of as the price of admission -- to die to the mind.


Question: "It is said that the Self is beyond the mind and yet the realisation is with the mind. The mind cannot think it. It cannot be thought of by the mind and the mind alone can realise it. How are these contradictions to be reconciled?"

Ramana Maharshi: "Self is realised with mrita manas (dead mind), that is, mind devoid of thoughts and turned inward. Then the mind sees its own source and becomes that."



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Posted by Carmody
It is a simple fact of human psychology that the less the reach of a given person's intellect... the greater the desire (and projected fears) within... and thus the 'need' to label things, to define items and concepts into a form of certainty that is held to be inviolate. To create within the psychology a outline of projected certainty that reflects back a feeling of knowing and thus a form of safety.

This helps explain the media bias as a form of manipulation of the general populace, and the manipulation of the general populace via science and religion. Manipulate in the backdrop of the given situation, while dripping a reality into existence by responding to their 'needs'. needs Which are real, imagined, or created into existence.

Essentially, you help a confounded and upset child to suckle, by presenting it with a form and feel of a teat.

It really is that simple, as our logic and thoughts form from a source which is the hindbrain, which is the baseline function of the animal/body... and that is autonomous and outside of conscious thought.
Thus the very vast majority of people don't even know what the hell they are and how their brain works. And thus, their circle of logic is smaller than those who are aware of this..and thus they can be and ARE corralled and led to slaughter via this very simple aspect of human design.

If the general population where to confront this aspect of their mind and what it is, this would remove the certainties they have created in their minds, about what is real and what is not.....all would be in turmoil.

Thus, this must be avoided at all costs, via these thoughts not being allowed to take place in the mind. Up to and including killing anything that brings this idea and thinking, to them. Fear. Pain. confusion. Animal response.

A situation created by the feelings and emotions of the hindbrain, the place where the impetus and shaping of conscious thought ---erupts from.

Once again, it really is that simple and it has everything to do with this thread and the entire reason that this forum... exists.

How to be free?

Be conscious of this, in every waking and thinking moment.

For the rest of your life.

Wear it as a point and addition in every thought, 24/7. Even when you are sleeping.

And freedom..... WILL come.

Escape/surpass.... your hindbrain's enforced limit. Take the training wheels off your avatar.

Carmody
7th August 2015, 11:58
This is a difficult subject to approach, for most folks. Also, my language, my wording, or sentence construction -is not really helping.

Now that Pluto has been imaged and seen by human eyes, the last of the links to this as open conversation, worded thoughts in the human mind..all this can now take place. As above, so below. (this sentence, it's meaning can take quite some time to understand, or find the connective tissue on)

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A recent article on 'mind', in the world of psychology and open public science. things are changing. People are starting to 'get it'.

Think Your Conscious Brain Directs Your Actions? Think Again



Think your deliberate, guiding, conscious thoughts are in charge of your actions? (http://singularityhub.com/2015/08/02/think-your-conscious-brain-directs-your-actions-think-again/)

Think again.

In a provocative new paper in Behavioral and Brain Sciences, a team led by Dr. Ezequiel Morsella at San Francisco State University came to a startling conclusion: consciousness is no more than a passive machine running one simple algorithm — to serve up what’s already been decided, and take credit for the decision.

Rather than a sage conductor, it’s just a tiny part of what happens in the brain that makes us “aware.” All the real work goes on under the hood — in our unconscious minds.

The Passive Frame Theory, as Morsella calls it, is based on decades of experimental data observing how people perceive and generate motor responses to odors. It’s not about perception (“I smell a skunk”), but about response (running from a skunk). The key to cracking what consciousness does in the brain is to work backwards from an observable physical action, explains Morsella in his paper.

If this isn’t your idea of “consciousness,” you’re not alone.

Traditionally, theorists tried to tackle the enigmatic beast by looking at higher levels of human consciousness, for example, self-consciousness — the knowledge that you exist — or theory of mind — that you and others have differing beliefs, intents, desires and perspectives. While fascinating on a philosophical level, this approach is far too complex to explain on a fundamental level what consciousness is for.

Instead, Morsella believes that studying basic consciousness ­— the awareness of a color, an urge, a sharp pain — is what will lead to a breakthrough.

“If a creature has an experience of any kind — something it is like to be that creature ­ — then it has this form of consciousness,” Morsella said in an email to Singularity Hub. It doesn’t have to be high-level, and “ it’s unlikely to be unique to humans.”

The Passive Frame Theory goes like this: nearly all the decisions and thoughts that need to be made throughout the day are performed by many parts of the unconscious brain, well below our level of awareness.

When the time comes to physically act on a decision, various unconscious processes deliver their opinions to a central “hub,” like voters congregating at town hall. The hub listens in on the conversation, but doesn’t participate; all it does is provide a venue for differing opinions to integrate and decide on a final outcome. Once the unconscious makes a final decision on how to physically act (or react), the hub — consciousness — executes that work and then congratulates itself for figuring out a tough problem.

In a way, the unconscious mind is like a group of talented ghostwriters working on a movie script for a celebrated screenwriter. If all goes smoothly, they bypass the screenwriter and deliver the final product straight to the next level. If, on the other hand, conflict arises — say the ghostwriters differ in their ideas on how the story should unfold — their argument may reach the ears of that famous screenwriter, who becomes aware of the problem, but nevertheless sits and waits for the writers to figure it all out. Once that happens, the screenwriter hands off the script, and gets all the credit.

Similar to the screenwriter, consciousness doesn’t debate or solve conflict in our heads; consciousness needs to be “on” in order to relay the final outcome — so it is essential — but it doesn’t participate in the nitty-gritty of decision-making.

Why did consciousness emerge in this way? Morsella thinks the answer is evolution.

Like all animals, humans try to conserve mental energy and automate our biological processes. Most of the time we run on instincts, reflexes and minute-to-minute immediate thoughts. Take breathing as an example — it’s completely automated, to the point that consciously trying to maintain a steady rhythm is surprisingly hard. In this case, conscious thought just bogs the process down.

Unlike most animals, however, humans gradually evolved into complex social beings capable of cultivating our intelligence for language and other higher faculties. Faced with increasingly difficult decisions on how to act, we suddenly needed a middleman to slow our unconscious mind down.

Say you find yourself underwater; your instinct is to breathe, but better judgment — delivered by an unconscious cry of alarm (“don’t breathe!”) — tells you that you would drown. Your unconscious mind orders your consciousness to activate the muscles that will allow you to hold your breath and keep you alive. Consciousness triggers an adaptive motion.

The power of our unconscious mind doesn’t stop at basic bodily functions. In the paper, Morsella cites language — a high-level, complex and perhaps distinctively human faculty — as another product of the unconscious mind.

When you speak, you’re only consciously aware of a few words at a time, and that is only so you can direct the muscles around your mouth and tongue to form those words. What you’re saying is prescribed under the hood; your conscious mind is simply following a script.

Morsella acknowledges that his theory is unconventional and difficult to accept.

"The number one reason it's taken so long to reach this conclusion is because people confuse what consciousness is for with what they think they use it for," Morsella said in a press release accompanying his paper.

But none of this theory takes away our treasured qualities as sentient human beings — our imagination, our language, our sense of self and others — it just points to the unconscious mind as the main player on our brainy fields.

In fact, Morsella hopes his theory could lead to new ideas about intrusive thoughts or obsessions that often occur in mental disorders. “The passivity of consciousness explains why we are aware of urges and thoughts that are maladaptive," Morsella said to Singularity Hub, because it doesn’t know that it shouldn’t be thinking about these thoughts.

“The system is less all-knowing and purposeful than we thought.”

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Conclusionally speaking, linear minded thinking, 'reality based linear factual science', is trying very hard to EXPAND the ego --- when the ego is the problem itself.

It knows not the smell of it's own ass, yet it spends the entire day sniffing it.

Carmody
7th August 2015, 12:09
The fundamental connective tissue aspect, with regard to dimensions and reality. Why the ego, trapped in the past as connected to the body, the body...an organization of 'molecules in connectivity', how that operates in the past.

How it can only operate in the past and is thus reactionary only. A history reader and assessor, if you will.



Define real.

Define reality.

Good luck with that.

Gets right back to the idea of all is now on a 2D timeless field....history is sensation, recollection, artifact and artifice, it is all we 'measure' ..as scientists cannot measure 'now', no matter how they try. It cannot be done.

All measurement is historical, all recollection, all memory, all act as reaction, is historical....there is no 'read' of now, even though everything contains a component of the now 'fulcrum 2d sheet pairing/moment'.

And thus projection...... is future.

It's a 2D timeless quantum field/sheet, all connected, where micro differential is the entire manifold system. Intelligence and information, no difference.

It is not a simulacrum, in that sense, no. It simply is what is, in this space and place, in this view. since we all project reality, our future, from analysis of all that is history, in this giant 2D quantum differential sheet of now, what you believe is real, what you project is real. Due to coupling effects, some modicum of regularity is available, in the fabric of intelligence and in the geometry of angular vibrations and their couplings - that we call elements.

Time, space, gravity, all easy concepts. etc. Remember how much energy is said occupies one cubic meter of empty space. Enough to boil the earth's oceans. Infinitesimally small differentials in the 'atoms', or in this case, prima-matter, dark matter, and so on..... this defines space-time and gravity, atomic lattice structure, etc.

We (our idea of reality) are a resonant bubble of dimensional leakage coming off the 2D dimensional dual vortex (in/out) fulcrum point in each atomic particle.

This, of course, directly leads to the understanding that we are a mirror of ....an angle of...a sub resonance of...an uber/meta resonance of.... we are analogous to.......to......!..other dimensions, other energetic patterns.

Thus.... you are controlled on how the ego reads the past, which becomes the projection of a future, and the control loop is closed. All rolling on a thunderous moment of multidimensional now.


Would you like fries with that?

Selkie
7th August 2015, 12:26
This thread puts me in mind of the Meditations of Marcus Aurelius. As far as I can tell, he was a living example of a what Carmody is talking about.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Aurelius


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meditations

Quotations[edit]
"Be like a rocky promontory against which the restless surf continually pounds; it stands fast while the churning sea is lulled to sleep at its feet. I hear you say, "How unlucky that this should happen to me!" Not at all! Say instead, "How lucky that I am not broken by what has happened and am not afraid of what is about to happen. The same blow might have struck anyone, but not many would have absorbed it without capitulation or complaint." (IV. 49, trans. Hicks)

If thou art pained by any external thing, it is not this that disturbs thee, but thy own judgment about it. And it is in thy power to wipe out this judgment now. (VIII. 47, trans. George Long)

A cucumber is bitter. Throw it away. There are briars in the road. Turn aside from them. This is enough. Do not add, "And why were such things made in the world?" (VIII. 50, trans. George Long)

Put an end once for all to this discussion of what a good man should be, and be one. (X. 17,[13])

Soon you'll be ashes or bones. A mere name at most—and even that is just a sound, an echo. The things we want in life are empty, stale, trivial. (V. 33, trans. Gregory Hays)

Never regard something as doing you good if it makes you betray a trust or lose your sense of shame or makes you show hatred, suspicion, ill-will or hypocrisy or a desire for things best done behind closed doors. (III. 7, trans. Gregory Hays)

Not to feel exasperated or defeated or despondent because your days aren't packed with wise and moral actions. But to get back up when you fail, to celebrate behaving like a human—however imperfectly—and fully embrace the pursuit you've embarked on. (V. 9, trans. Gregory Hays)

Let opinion be taken away, and no man will think himself wronged. If no man shall think himself wronged, then is there no more any such thing as wrong. (IV. 7, trans. Méric Casaubon)

[...] As for others whose lives are not so ordered, he reminds himself constantly of the characters they exhibit daily and nightly at home and abroad, and of the sort of society they frequent; and the approval of such men, who do not even stand well in their own eyes has no value for him. (III. 4, trans. Maxwell Staniforth)

Shame on the soul, to falter on the road of life while the body still perseveres. (VI. 29, trans. Maxwell Staniforth)

Take away your opinion, and there is taken away the complaint, [...] Take away the complaint, [...] and the hurt is gone (IV. 7, trans. George Long)

Whatever happens to you has been waiting to happen since the beginning of time. The twining strands of fate wove both of them together: your own existence and the things that happen to you. (V. 8, trans. Gregory Hays)

Do not act as if thou wert going to live ten thousand years. Death hangs over thee. While thou livest, while it is in thy power, be good. (IV. 17, trans. George Long)

Of the life of man the duration is but a point. (II. 17, trans. C.R. Haines)

Words that everyone once used are now obsolete, and so are the men whose names were once on everyone's lips: Camillus, Caeso, Volesus, Dentatus, and to a lesser degree Scipio and Cato, and yes, even Augustus, Hadrian, and Antoninus are less spoken of now than they were in their own days. For all things fade away, become the stuff of legend, and are soon buried in oblivion. Mind you, this is true only for those who blazed once like bright stars in the firmament, but for the rest, as soon as a few clods of earth cover their corpses, they are 'out of sight, out of mind.' In the end, what would you gain from everlasting remembrance? Absolutely nothing. So what is left worth living for? This alone: justice in thought, goodness in action, speech that cannot deceive, and a disposition glad of whatever comes, welcoming it as necessary, as familiar, as flowing from the same source and fountain as yourself. (IV. 33, trans. Scot and David Hicks)

"Why do you hunger for length of days? The point of life is to follow reason and the divine spirit and to accept whatever nature sends you. To live in this way is not to fear death, but to hold it in contempt. Death is only a thing of terror for those unable to live in the present. Pass on your way, then, with a smiling face, under the smile of him who bids you go.”
Do not then consider life a thing of any value. For look at the immensity of time behind thee, and to the time which is before thee, another boundless space. In this infinity then what is the difference between him who lives three days and him who lives three generations? (IV. 50, trans. George Long)

When you wake up in the morning, tell yourself: The people I deal with today will be meddling, ungrateful, arrogant, dishonest, jealous, and surly. They are like this because they can't tell good from evil. But I have seen the beauty of good, and the ugliness of evil, and have recognized that the wrongdoer has a nature related to my own—not of the same blood or birth, but the same mind, and possessing a share of the divine. (II. 1, trans. Gregory Hays)


Just a sample of some quotes :)

idiit
7th August 2015, 13:04
In essence, our internal voice, the ego, is based upon and emanates out of our emotional core of being.

I've intuitively suspected for some time now that "the human ego" is not a human construct; rather, it's an archon implant. the very term "human ego" is Babylonian word magic framing the discussion a priori away from the real truth.


Ego-mind (aka "the virus") can co-opt even your most profound realizations, taking the credit for how well it's seeing through and "hacking" itself. In fact, the very movement and impulse to fight the virus is prompted by the virus itself -- that's how it survives so well, by ensuring that a perpetual state of war exists (not unlike certain governments). The last thing it wants is to become obsolete through lack of attention. The last sound it ever wants to hear is silence.The mind which falls into its inherent and prior silence is not interesting to the ego-mind, which thrives on conflict. Consequently, sages and shamans recommend cultivating the discipline of inner silence.

"The grand trick of those sorcerers of ancient times was to burden the flyers' mind with discipline. Sorcerers found out that if they taxed the flyers' mind with inner silence, the foreign installation would flee, and give any one of the practitioners involved in this maneuver the total certainty of the mind's foreign origin." ~Don Juan Matus


^ amen. :)

I bounced this 'intuitive suspicion' of mine off john lamb lash and he didn't see it my way. he has his own take.

the archons can't be like us so they tried to program us to be like them.

Cameron Day wrote a nice article on this topic:


Our thoughts have power – much more than we often realize. Words and titles have power because they frame our thoughts into a certain set of beliefs without us even realizing it. Calling a “royal” human “Your Highness” automatically places them above you in your mind. Calling a judge “Your Honor” achieves the same thing. Therefore it very is important that when you think about these energy parasites, that you NEVER call them “Archon” because you will be literally handing them your power and energy by doing so.

^ see the Babylonian word magic?


I prefer to call them Ankle Biters. This lets them know exactly what I think of them, which is that they are lowly parasites, an infection of consciousness that will be purged from my system through proper use of my will via energetic clearing and transmutation. This also serves to really make them angry which exposes them and makes them easier to deal with. In spite of their self-proclaimed status as “Rulers” of humanity, they hide like little worms in the shadows of our minds, sending impulses of low-frequency emotion and thought to our ego and emotional bodies in order to elicit a low-frequency emotional energy that they can consume. Because they love to hide, they need to be “flushed out” into the open in order to be dealt with, so a healthy dose of disrespect and a little arrogance are necessary ingredients when confronting these parasites.

^ will we agree to call them ankle biters and then reframe the dialogue? :)


However, these ankle biters are possibly the most clever manipulators in the universe, simply because ALL they know is manipulation and deceit. Practice makes perfect, after all. They studied these immensely powerful humans, lusting after the power and energy that they could drain from them if only they could figure out a way to manipulate, conquer and enslave them. They devised a plan to very carefully manipulate a few humans in positions of power into making an innocent mistake with terrible, cataclysmic repercussions. These humans were experimenting with new methods of harnessing and transmitting energy in vast quantities. The experiments were unprecedented and very ambitious — too ambitious because the ankle biters were secretly influencing some of these humans through their ego mind to push the envelope of what was thought to be possible.


They subliminally programmed humans to be blind to their presence, allowing them to more directly influence a person’s thoughts. They also programmed human consciousness to recoil away from any mention of the ankle biters or their dark influence over humans, so that when confronted with such information, a person’s immediate response will be disbelief, ridicule and mockery.

Finally, in their most brilliantly sinister move, they reprogrammed the human ego to resemble their own ego, and encouraged the ego consciousness to dominate all other levels of our being. They essentially reprogrammed humans to be like them: fearful, jealous, petty, dishonest, brutal, enslaving, murderous, unforgiving, punishing, etc. This insured that humans would be easy to manage as an energetic food source for thousands and thousands of years. These layers of programming have been in place in the human thought system ever since, perpetuating the discordant misadventures that we know as human history


cool article. lots more at link:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:dSL7UftuDV8J:www.ascensionhelp.com/blog/2012/01/31/never-call-them-archons/+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Carmody
7th August 2015, 13:13
more to the point, to understand the character and point of existence of the ego mind and then move beyond it. to do away with the ego based labeling thing, the separateness and distancing thing.

the linear minded historical labeling life thing or aspect which allows the ego to fold itself into being contained within the new answer.

The heart of the issue, it is.

Just understand it and move beyond it, never forgetting that it is what it is.

Labeling it and blaming it on someone or something else -----is exactly what the ego wants you do do. You respond to it's clutches, still.


The ego voice allows for forms of communication, on one level and one level only.

It forms part of the connective tissue of the collective and individual components of the human organism, in this 2d plane extrusion/bubble/'energetic resonant collective' we call linear unidirectional 3d reality.

It is a component of connective tissue. Part of the avatar's past to future bridge/loop. Part of the equals/not-equals sign between past and future, as all of it is emergent from the given dimensional now that exists in the heart of all structure, in this place.

It aids one in navigating this reality bubble that emerges from the now, this coupled resonant dimensional bubble we call 3d linear time based reality. But, importantly, it is part of the childhood stage. Not of the adult stage. Reclaiming one's self from this egoic 'rubber baby buggy bumper' system, is key.

To re-iterate... importantly, do not mistake the given bridge (ego layer/system) --- for the road, the path, or the journey.

listening to:

EDFv-8Cvbbg

idiit
7th August 2015, 13:48
I believe in a step process towards eradicating the ai drone creature entirely. knowing/revealing, ridicule, removal; same as Cameron Day imo.

idiit is an egoless username ; at least that's my implication in choosing it. a glass full of itself has no room.... it's not where you are, it's where you are going that is preeminent. you can't learn if you think you already know....


the "pig wearing lipstick" avatar is saying don't be fooled by facades, including mine.

I emanate from an egoless position. proof's in the puddin'; my username and avatar for example.

this is a spiritual war, no doubt. egoless existence is my spiritual warrior stance.


egolessness: "...training yourself to be a warrior is learning to rest in basic goodness, to rest in a state of complete simplicity...that state of being is called egolessness. Egolessness is very important to the Shambhala Teachings. It is impossible to be a warrior unless you have experienced egolessness. Without egolessness, your mind will be filled with yourself, your personal projects and schemes. Instead of concern for others, you become preoccupied with your own 'egofullness,' The colloquial expression of someone who is "full of himself" refers to this kind of arrogance and false pride." Egolessness is "resting in basic goodness, resting in a complete state of simplicity", the truth of non-reference point"..."The fruition of the warrior's path is the experience to primordial goodness, or the complete, unconditioned nature of basic goodness. This experience is the some as the complete realization of egolessness, or the truth of non-reference point.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:xhQgTbRaGtQJ:www.chinabuddhismencyc lopedia.com/en/index.php/Egolessness+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

lake
7th August 2015, 14:05
You are talking about the supposedly SELF imposed limitation. The "Im not pretty", "Im not clever", "They are better than me" .... thoughts?
The ones backed up by the whole of society ....... if you do not select idea number 1, you are a misfit, a lesser being .... YOU FAIL

Bill Hicks was right!

How have we allowed this to propagate?

I added this to an old reply :


How deep it, this voice, is!
I thought that I knew this concept but the depth of it, I did not realise.
Were it ends and I, self, begins......is difficult to place.

and this is the place I am stuck and why I am searching old threads from many users!

To consider that I am 'creating' this landscape via another's will.... I find distasteful to say the least.

So once one is at 'one of your points' and is now sinking beneath the surface....... is it just continue or can this be the psychopathic ego voice happy to 'destroy all rather than lose'?

Carmody
7th August 2015, 16:06
When ego begins the process of letting go, or when it is being unraveled, things can get a bit crazy, as it is so intertwined with the window of self.

You've had a lifetime to build it, taking it's hands off the conscious/unconscious controls, or at least your impression of involvement of/with controls..takes some time. Moments of seeming madness will appear and the world will probably become very sinusoidal. Sinusoidal, at best.

As Bill Hicks said... it's just a ride. Best and worst trip ever, all rolled up in one.

The issue for us, is that components of the world are collectively stepping into that moment, in some ways.

lake
7th August 2015, 16:50
The issue for us, is that components of the world are collectively stepping into that moment, in some ways.

The wave? The interaction of others to 'dilute' the impression?

All the technology which we as a collective seem to be consenting to?

As I have read many posts from many Avalon members over the last week, I have found that there is a 'thing' which is alluded to but never directly written about!
Why?

Carmody
7th August 2015, 19:40
The issue for us, is that components of the world are collectively stepping into that moment, in some ways.

The wave? The interaction of others to 'dilute' the impression?

All the technology which we as a collective seem to be consenting to?

As I have read many posts from many Avalon members over the last week, I have found that there is a 'thing' which is alluded to but never directly written about!
Why?

The collective consciousness of humanity. The separate bits vs the connected whole. the information field that is humanity, like a frozen solidus lattice network, of information, of intelligence. Humanity's group mind.

Our animal level communications take place one layer of quality down, at best..compared to that of our inner discussions within ourselves.

As the individuals in the group begin to 'clear' themselves, we get the collective '100th monkey' effect beginning to occur on the collective level.

Just yesterday I remarked that all the seagulls in the area, starting about a month ago, started walking everywhere. They no longer flew away the moment any car came close to them, or when a person was near or looked at them. Until a month ago, this was the norm. Now they just waddle/scurry away from cars. The same, virtually, for crows. Now, locally, we can (standing, on foot) get to about 10 feet (3.2m) from the seagulls, and they simply don't care. They are not alarmed about it. Cars... even closer 3 feet (1m) or closer. This is all very new behavior that I've not seen before, that literally changed...seemingly...overnight.

Something changed. For the collective. They are all doing it. A 'hundredth seagull' effect.

The same happens with humans.

When a large component of humanity, individually... goes clear, or begins that process, then this will begin to emerge in some sort of hundredth monkey effect in the collective stage. What exactly that collective effect will be, is indeterminate.

idiit
7th August 2015, 21:09
The same happens with humans.

When a large component of humanity, individually... goes clear, or begins that process, then this will begin to emerge in some sort of hundredth monkey effect in the collective stage. What exactly that collective effect will be, is indeterminate

^ wholeheartedly agree. this is why our work here at Project Avalon matters. we have lots of guests reading these posts. we can be a + part of the "hundredth monkey" effect.

lake
9th August 2015, 14:12
Thank you for this thread and the responses within it, it defines and clarifies many thoughts for me.

This 'body', which I perceive this place through, is it my construction?
Is it an interaction between the part of 'me' that watches me and the part of 'me' which drives?
Will it (this thought of a physical form) be again or can it only be by 'my' use of it?
Can it be 'dreamt' by another awareness, if such a being has perception?

Does it 'become' more through my parasitizing of it? If not, then why should it not shout at me for my limiting 'its' only chance at being?

It shouts at me greatly now. Jagged movement from elation to despair to hope to loss.... the voicing of "its all true its all true" to "Lies lies all are lying"!

:argue:

And I watch it ....... but feel compassion along with empathy for it.
Sounds 'nuts' but it is not.... its just the wanting of a child...... I think?

Feel like Im having a detox or I am going la la, :lalala:, because if thats correct guess what ....... I get to join the mass of humanity!
:behindsofa:

lake
9th August 2015, 14:42
Sorry to be so needy .... but can you guys at least allay one thought fear for me?

Please tell me that this 'life' is NOT a circle within a spiral?

The more I consider the more I see a repeat nature?

No I am not just looking at the mundane .... it is a pure limitation and not of the supposed physical form!

WEhS9Y9HYjU

Carmody
9th August 2015, 16:43
Astrologically, life is an upward moving spiral.

If you want to get off the ride, you can. which is OK, it is considered by many, to be exactly that, in point: To get off the spiral ride. to learn enough by being here....that you don't need to be here anymore.

To look at it from one angle...it is a repeating circle. To look at it from the side, is to see it as a spiral, moving 'upward', for lack of a better word.

https://www.colourbox.com/preview/1487844-spiral-road-concept-illustration-isolated-on-white-background.jpg

Which follows the scaling theory of the universe. a grand scaling of the idea of what a 2-d pair of interlocked oscillating fields would be seen as, from a self resonant bubble universe that is angularly connected to the system.

As above, so below.

lake
9th August 2015, 17:34
Astrologically, life is an upward moving spiral.

To look at it from one angle...it is a repeating circle. To look at it from the side, is to see it as a spiral, moving 'upward', for lack of a better word.

As above, so below.

Thanks, but maybe I have not defined my inquiry in a correct manner!

Life is a spiral .... yes, but if from the side you were to then insert a circle, from a single point of said spiral, you would not see it nor would you see it from above or below!
But you would always return to the starting point and unless you 'knew' when the ride finished .... you would 'go' round again ....... and again.... ....... .... .......

A constant unseen 'wheel' to never remember but be required to turn?

As above, So below .... ....... unless you incorporate a circle within that upwards spiral, then you have the circle being as above so below and not the spiral?
Round and round anyone?

Ouroboros anyone?
The Dragons mind creates the circle of its life here, as it wanders in a Hell it can't remember entering.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?70970-The-Dragons-mind-creates-the-circle-of-its-life-here-as-it-wanders-in-a-Hell-it-can-t-remember-entering
:confused:

lake
22nd August 2015, 16:14
I feel a tad silly posting this but I shall anyway!

So I can comprehend the ego/mind as not mine, in fact I agree with the notion and I can see the reason for it and the reason to surpass it but I still have a question?

This life is lived in the past, within this supposed physical form, with me also focusing through it…. from the ‘now’?
I am or the senses of this physical (dream) form, view and perceive that which has already been ‘created’, although it is considered by most to be the ‘now’.
But the ‘now’ is where that part of me is, which this part of me is entangled with ……. this is why at times I consider that I create this interaction and I may have an affect from this ‘past’ back to the ‘now’ but mostly I (here in the past) am only swimming within that which has been scripted or created by ‘me’ in the ‘now’?

It does actually explain a great deal of inconsistencies.

It is quite a thought to reverse the ‘flow’ …. we have lived with the idea that we are looking forwards, past present and future and that we are in the present. but the word alone gives a clue, the pre-sent. It is already created and then has been sent ……. to this part of us in the PAST to act out! Even some of human science agrees that they can define what you will do before you actually do it!

http://exploringthemind.com/the-mind/brain-scans-can-reveal-your-decisions-7-seconds-before-you-decide


By monitoring the micro patterns of activity in the frontopolar cortex, the researchers could predict which hand the participant would choose 7 SECONDS before the participant was aware of the decision.
“Your decisions are strongly prepared by brain activity. By the time consciousness kicks in, most of the work has already been done,” said study co-author John-Dylan Haynes, a Max Planck Institute neuroscientist.
I don’t even know where to begin here! I know from the hypnosis research that the unconscious pretty much controls everything and that consciousness is extremely limited.
But, I do find it a bit disconcerting that decisions are made by unconscious me 7 seconds before conscious me…

7 seconds …. that’s vastly more than I considered that I could be from the ‘now’.
Ever wonder why a second is called a second and not a first???

I read Bill’s post regarding spoon bending and yes I can bend spoons but then considered why?
It takes ‘time’ to create an effect which you can physically feel, an indication that ‘now’ is the correct point to use a slight pressure!
And it does feel only slight …. but I consider it to be the same as a ‘mother lifting a car off a trapped child’. You think it is little force but it is a build up of energy within the now, a want from the past to the now which gives huge strength but seems here in the past to be no effort?
So the spoon is easily bent or twisted.
If I was in the 'now' I wouldn't need to touch the spoon to bend it, it would always have been bent!
For me the physical feeling each time I began to bend cutlery was the onset of an erection, so undeniable a physical response! Not that I have ever thought of kitchen utensils in an affectionate way!!!!!
:washing:

So to the question ……. can we state that we here in the ‘past’ can create in a semi limited way by an interaction with ourselves in the ‘now’ and that historical figures who have demonstrated immediate and unlimited manifestation have actually managed to ‘bring’ the ‘now’ to this ‘past’?
And should we attempt to also do this?
Also is the part of me in the 'now' trapped there or has that part of me freely chosen to be there?

Shadowself
22nd August 2015, 17:58
Carmody said:


A critical point is that this thread is hopefully not devolve into a critique of my analysis of the fundamentals of psychology and similar physiological connectivity.

Wow...Critique your analysis?

Exceptional quality; authentic essence, with intellectual-principle. No critique necessary. Thank you for the OP.

lake
21st October 2015, 20:07
Bumping this thread .... ....... for more input

Kristin
21st October 2015, 23:24
Fantastic thread Carmody. Thank you. When looking to step away from an ego perspective so that one is not acting out of ego what would you suggest? I am looking for simple application methods, several even, as we are all individuals here who come from differing places. If you care to expand on this I feel that the members as well as myself would appreciate it greatly.

What I have learned (which applies to my own struggle with ego) is to witness myself from the outside as soon as I feel an uncomfortable emotion attached to a specific person, idea, or action. I can see/feel the friction inside of me. Instead of acting at that particular moment, I step away and consider. That is, if there is room or time to consider: for example, I will pull my arm away from a scalding hot plate, LOL.

However it is not so easy to "turn the other cheek" and create a stance of observation and self reflection simultaniously. To hold this space for long periods of time is also difficult and takes practice. I am here to learn so I am very forgiving of myself. To ease this journey I use humor and grounding techniques. However, I have found at times that with a vigilant observation of self I have reached states that can be described as sustained compassion. This compassionate observation then can extend to those around me, but I feel we need to heal our ego body to truly be of service to others.

Another tactic I use is to move through differing patterns of thought to move past a reactionary stage. I will intentionally feel differently until I find the emotion which relieves the charge from the situation, usually that is an emotional state that feels love, empathy, and regard for the other person's status. In order to do this I will feel that person's past, their history, and see what makes the fire burn. Even if that person is evil or a psychopath they are a part of the energy here. I can choose not to engage in such a case and learn not to add more charge to the situation. So many choices.

Learning to observe is so key. The art of observation and ideas of observational tools I also feel would be a wonderful addition to this conversation.

From the Heart,
Kristin

Leon Kovalyov
27th October 2015, 13:45
Thank you for the engaging thread!

It is truly interesting and difficult to keep an eye on ones actions/reactions that stem from default operative mode which is usually lacking the temperance of our higher intellects.

I notice that at times when I loose my best self, although I have been doing better at catching myself, I still at time almost sadistically sit and watch myself behave in negative overtones and always feel angry at myself for allowing it to transpire and/or go on as long as it does at times.

I do think that meditaing while refocusing on my breathing to keep the thoughts that come at bay does help and various body aches come to the surface and are purged while I sit for the number of minutes of my age quietly in observer mode, yet trying to maintain no thought state.

Practicing forgiveness akin to "Course in Miracles" really helps englighten one by literally removing the weight carried.

Clean healthy living, eating goes along way as well as gentle walking while paying attention to the moment and oneself while sharing loved ones company.

Trying to refocus on the "now" moments "firstsent" lol like the "pre-sent" dichotomy...fulcrum...of co-creation.

Practicing kindness, allowance, truth, compasion and smiling projecting ones inner most "real" self while sharing in the beautifull energy experience creates overtones of heaven experience here now. While the moments are fleating, they are available to all when acted upon.

Notice what you notice, your wholeness navigator ie. wingmakers, always steers one in syncronous touch with what one needs to see/experience, but you have to pay attantion to catch the wave and then ride it in joy.

OneLove, my beloved

Flash
29th October 2015, 22:28
Fantastic thread Carmody. Thank you. When looking to step away from an ego perspective so that one is not acting out of ego what would you suggest?Kristin

I had a suggestion, if you do not mind, regarding this aspect of stepping away from the ego, from Finefeather, in a private e-mail. Here i cite:

You need to become satisfied with yourself at each point in your life.
No one is perfect and everyone is searching... most don't even know what they search for.
Learn to love yourself for what you have achieved and others for what they have achieved... no matter how you see it.

I was also told by someone else to not take my body, emotions and thinking as being me. To take them as being, period, but not being me. To observe, and detach, for the truth with the real one to surface.

-----------------

Really wonderful thread Carmody, thank you

¤=[Post Update]=¤


Astrologically, life is an upward moving spiral.

If you want to get off the ride, you can. which is OK, it is considered by many, to be exactly that, in point: To get off the spiral ride. to learn enough by being here....that you don't need to be here anymore.

To look at it from one angle...it is a repeating circle. To look at it from the side, is to see it as a spiral, moving 'upward', for lack of a better word.

https://www.colourbox.com/preview/1487844-spiral-road-concept-illustration-isolated-on-white-background.jpg

Which follows the scaling theory of the universe. a grand scaling of the idea of what a 2-d pair of interlocked oscillating fields would be seen as, from a self resonant bubble universe that is angularly connected to the system.

As above, so below.

I had been wondering what you meant in many posts by saying "from the 2nd dimension". I think I finally caught your drift (finally understood). This is uttelry interesting.. No comment on this yet, it has to sink in first.

lake
14th January 2019, 21:18
This is uttelry interesting.. No comment on this yet, it has to sink in first.

I totally agree Flash :)

It is shocking the amount of supposed individuals who do not (and maybe cannot) comprehend that a great percentage of that which they consider to be 'their own thought'....is not?

And that they can be lead down paths which hold nothing but sorrow....but think that they are learning to become as an awareness.

Some may even promote the limitation of discussion in order to attempt a clarification of a mind which is NOT them?

For an example: I could create a thread and portray my limited opinion within the opening post and if any one disagreed....then I could simply tell them to stay on topic!

But I would then be completely disregarding that the interaction of different views can create greater knowledge through open and fair discourse.

To allow the in-creative archon mind to over ride one's own shows the hidden war is still in operation within the individual!

Good thread.... :)

Flash
14th January 2019, 23:17
Fantastic thread Carmody. Thank you. When looking to step away from an ego perspective so that one is not acting out of ego what would you suggest?Kristin

I had a suggestion, if you do not mind, regarding this aspect of stepping away from the ego, from Finefeather, in a private e-mail. Here i cite:

You need to become satisfied with yourself at each point in your life.
No one is perfect and everyone is searching... most don't even know what they search for.
Learn to love yourself for what you have achieved and others for what they have achieved... no matter how you see it.

I was also told by someone else to not take my body, emotions and thinking as being me. To take them as being, period, but not being me. To observe, and detach, for the truth with the real one to surface.

-----------------

Really wonderful thread Carmody, thank you

¤=[Post Update]=¤


Astrologically, life is an upward moving spiral.

If you want to get off the ride, you can. which is OK, it is considered by many, to be exactly that, in point: To get off the spiral ride. to learn enough by being here....that you don't need to be here anymore.

To look at it from one angle...it is a repeating circle. To look at it from the side, is to see it as a spiral, moving 'upward', for lack of a better word.

https://www.colourbox.com/preview/1487844-spiral-road-concept-illustration-isolated-on-white-background.jpg

Which follows the scaling theory of the universe. a grand scaling of the idea of what a 2-d pair of interlocked oscillating fields would be seen as, from a self resonant bubble universe that is angularly connected to the system.

As above, so below.

I had been wondering what you meant in many posts by saying "from the 2nd dimension". I think I finally caught your drift (finally understood). This is uttelry interesting.. No comment on this yet, it has to sink in first.

I am still making ways on this thread, this is what it is to listen to a master, the growth path goes on for years.

I am ok with the 2-D interlocking oscillating fields , the self resonant bubble universe (although I have trouble to imagine it other than 3D) but still thinking on the angularly connected to the system. Got it: the spiral is it?

TEOTWAIKI
15th January 2019, 13:31
When one of these older gems gets resurrected I can't help but think of the concept of rapid devolution and at the same time am very thankful that this forum has persisted through the chaos. Thanks to Bill and all forum contributors for their perseverance in the throes of the battle.

This "war" that remains generally unacknowledged has intrigued and beguiled me for many years. I think is hidden because the perpetrators of the "Event" that devastated Earth must never be made culpable. To disguise the destruction, the hologram was created as a veneer; even though deep within us we know the truth, living in the hologram is much preferable to facing the horror of reality.

Yes, I think we are definitely being manipulated through "our" thoughts but I have a guilty feeling that we are all complicit is the hoax; this guilt having been rationalized through concepts like "original sin" and "Karma" by the creators of the simulation and we eagerly accept such doctrines to escape the feelings of remorse.

While I have had only brief glimpses of the devastation and the projected matrix to obscure it, I am always amazed at how few people through the ages of literature have discussed the subject. It certainly is taboo, not only for a given culture but for all of humankind.

But on the other hand, as my favorite song philosophizes, "Sometimes all of our thoughts are misgiven". Perhaps my memory and glimpses of the "Event" and it's consequences are "all in my head" but "Ooh, it makes me wonder" if there's anyone here on PA that remembers...

lake
15th January 2019, 18:37
I am still making ways on this thread, this is what it is to listen to a master, the growth path goes on for years.

I am ok with the 2-D interlocking oscillating fields , the self resonant bubble universe (although I have trouble to imagine it other than 3D) but still thinking on the angularly connected to the system. Got it: the spiral is it?

I dont know if this will help....nor if it is correct lol .... but the concept helped me :)

2D projection within a 3D printed object MP4 18second video (https://i.imgur.com/ya96zDW.mp4)

So you have a 3D structure which has an incoming, zeroD awareness, 'hit' into it....which creates a 2D projection being dragged though 'Time' (4D) .... which allows for a 'perception' of 3D 'interaction' for the zeroD awareness.

The 3D structure is formed from the Aether/Ether and the 'Time' component is electrical/magnetic.

Then we have this:

https://www.math.toronto.edu/drorbn/Gallery/KnottedObjects/PlanetHopf/PlanetHopf_240.png

Which is a representation of a 2D sphere acting within a 3D space!

This comes from:

https://www.math.toronto.edu/drorbn/Gallery/KnottedObjects/PlanetHopf/video.html

where there are gifs of it....but I can't embed them either.

And is best described by Eric Weinstein (who I think created it) on the Joe Rogan Show.
Start at 50:20 for the description of that 'thing' as I cannot make this embed at the correct time:

X9JLij1obHY

If this helps or not....??

But maybe Carmody will drop by and inform me that I am utterly wrong.... :) hope so lol