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Hervé
2nd April 2013, 09:56
After getting tired of searching for priorly posted data regarding the subject every time a "Nibiru" thread resurfaces from its ashes, I compiled a series of, mostly, my own posts related to that subject as a source for actual data and references.

Going through it, one may realize that the actual conspiracy may not be the "hiding" of data on the subject but rather, a psyop to induce people into believing that such an object is ready to come down barreling through this solar system, anew, every few years.


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Bill Ryan (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?6-Bill-Ryan) 13th July 2010 21:09 Link to Post #2 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3893-Our-second-SUN-&p=34542&viewfull=1#post34542)
Re: Our second SUN!

This is what Andy Lloyd and Bill Deagle are both convinced is a brown dwarf star, visible only in the infrared.

http://www.darkstar1.co.uk (http://www.darkstar1.co.uk/)

It's not shown up yet (so it's a little behind what some people believe is the schedule), but there is credible circumstantial evidence that the Controllers are throwing quite a lot of money and technology at tracking it as it comes in from the south.


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Bill Ryan (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?6-Bill-Ryan) 14th July 2010 10:58 Link to Post #20 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3893-Our-second-SUN-&p=34723&viewfull=1#post34723)
Re: Our second SUN!

There's 100% no chance that thousands of amateur astronomers, controlled by no-one, are going to sit quietly if a large astronomical object becomes visible to the naked eye anytime soon.

There does seem to be a large object (a brown dwarf star) that the Controllers are very interested in, maybe somewhere round the orbit of Jupiter (ref Andy Lloyd and Bill Deagle), not visible to the naked eye and radiating in the infrared.

There are good arguments that this would be coming in from the south (hence the recent investment in the South Pole Telescope). The poster of the photo does not say when or where it was taken, but I assume it was in the US or Canada, very recently.

The thousands of amateur astronomers - many of whom frequently watch the sun (especially in the recent solar eclipse) are unlikely to miss something that was taken with a digital camera while watching a sunset.

This is almost certainly a sundog (an unusual but not infrequent atmospheric effect).

Here's a good image of the recent 11 July 2010 eclipse: there are no other large objects else there apart from the sun. Orbital mechanics would require that any large object like PX would still be there in the field of view... it wouldn't suddenly zip away and disappear.



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Bill Ryan (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?6-Bill-Ryan) 14th July 2010 16:03 Link to Post #29 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3893-Our-second-SUN-&p=34840&viewfull=1#post34840)
Re: Our second SUN!

Posted by ArtyCarl (here) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=34827#post34827)
As a sometime amateur astronomer I endorse what Bill is saying. There are literally thousands of amateur astronomers all over the globe making observations and taking thousands of photographs daily. These are compared for signs of any telltale movement among the stars. Take my word for it, any tiny variation is poured over and we are talking sometimes about a minute shift in position between two or more images. It is unthinkable to believe that any astronomical body of that size could 'sneak' up on us.

EXACTLY.

Thanks!

A question for you (when I was a teenager and my friends were all into girls and rock music, I was reading books on astrophysics) --- do you think it's possible that our sun is a binary star? (Most star systems are, a fact not widely known.)

The second star in the binary system can EASILY be much smaller, and fairly far out there most of the time.. I'm sold on the plausibility of the brown dwarf model. As best I understand this is totally possible... would welcome your views.

Note that this gets all mixed up with Sitchin's Nibiru, which he posited as a kind of giant rocky/icy spaceship which the Anunnaki were riding about on, waiting to come back this way.

I've always contested that this makes no sense: the Anunnaki certainly have their own high-tech transport... and a rocky planet way out beyond Pluto's orbit would not be a fun place to be for a couple of thousand years. My take is that the Planet X story and the Anunnaki story are not connected in the way that Sitchin suggests... but that's another thread.



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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 25th March 2011 18:48 #71 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15543-Mysterious-Georgia-Guidestones&p=183999&viewfull=1#post183999)
Re: Mysterious Georgia Guidestones

To get an idea as to what's in the stars for this planet, one could start with Velikosky and his "Worlds in Collision." The fact that he was ridiculed and "debunked" by the official academia might be a very strong indication he was somewhat eerily close to the truth. His approach of integrating myths and legends with scientific data is what was followed by the authors of "Thunderbolts Of the Gods."

Then there are these cyclical "extinction" events, every so-and-so years. For a comprehensive study of such, have a look at:

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/12...rom-Extinction (http://www.sott.net/articles/show/128992-Forget-About-Global-Warming-We-re-One-Step-From-Extinction)-

For the short version, see this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CnGRnz9Fi4&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CnGRnz9Fi4&feature=player_embedded)

Where, for short, the Nemesis/brown dwarf Sun binary plays pool/billiard with the Oort Cloud and sprays the system with a new set of bolides with each new passage... and where the older sets are still at play... compounding the probabilities.


https://fwtinw.bn1.livefilestore.com/y1pkps1XfjpzgUZ4o2BRVicxmjV-3mYPNSdAuE28A7tZD_31_juIW4uzXl8gmNaoOf21Jv7PgRHQK0 5Kd1_lWH7ZovRQ4aCZ3Tq/081211-am-comets3-02.jpg?psid=1



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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 27th June 2011 at 08:05 #49 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?23700-The-confusion-surrounding-Comet-Elenin&p=251651&viewfull=1#post251651)
Re: The confusion surrounding Comet Elenin ???

Now, that said, Elenin being ascertained as no dwarf star (Phewwtttffff!); the interest directed at that comet is because it came out of a sector of the sky where a dwarf star was expected to be detected.

The dwarf star or brown dwarf, the Sun's binary companion in short, hasn't been ruled out at all! To the contrary!

This article is about the clearest layman's terms arguments for the existence of such a stellar body:

Is the Sun Part of a Binary Star System? - Six Reasons to Consider (http://www.sott.net/articles/show/230480-Is-the-Sun-Part-of-a-Binary-Star-System-Six-Reasons-to-Consider)

Amongst other things, it clearly shows how a sheared off Oort cloud occurs. That is, no "Flying objects" beyond but a lot within.

And lots of 'em flying objects when the brush off happens!



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Kuiper_oort.jpg



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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 27th June 2011 at 08:26 #52 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?23700-The-confusion-surrounding-Comet-Elenin&p=251658&viewfull=1#post251658)
Re: The confusion surrounding Comet Elenin ???

Originally Posted by Calz_Avaretard
Agreed.
Bob Dean suggested 2016 or 2017 time frame correct???

That sounds about right for the flying debris.

The Sun's companion however would start to be detectable from the southern hemisphere around this summer.

One reason for the focus on doom and gloom with Elenin is that it triggers an atavic fear of catastrophes by comets from the distant past... and of course the same type of individuals are banking on it...

Last edited by Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/posthistory.php?p=251658); 27th June 2011 at 08:35.



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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 13th July 2011 at 16:49 #52 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?24930-This-Scared-ME-The-Sun-is-out-of-place&p=261342&viewfull=1#post261342)
Re: This Scared ME The Sun is out of place

Originally Posted by DoubleHelix
In response to the title: I'd say the sun hasn't moved an inch and its more likely that the earth's orbit is slightly out of whack if anything !

Well, actually, that's not quite accurate:

The Sun itself is in orbit around the center of our galaxy. Another factor to enter in is the now suspected existence of a binary companion, hence its going above and below the galactic plane. From that, the rotation of the Sun around the center of the galaxy looks more like a spiraling trajectory around the galaxy.

Then you have the planets spiraling around that spiraling Sun... and each planet rotating on itself creating the planet's "day." Anyone dizzy yet?

Also, our galaxy is moving inside the galactic soup of this universe.

Check this page for a visual of the motion of a binary star system and what happens to each star's associated "debris":

http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/evidence/sheeredge.shtml (http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/evidence/sheeredge.shtml)



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Oort_cloud_Sedna_orbit.svg/600px-Oort_cloud_Sedna_orbit.svg.png (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/Oort_cloud_Sedna_orbit.svg)
The presumed distance of the Oort cloud compared to the rest of the Solar System


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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 14th July 2011 at 22:59 #565 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Proof-that-Comet-Elenin-doesn-t-exists--We-have-Nibiru-instead-&p=262377&viewfull=1#post262377)
Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

For a visual of a binary star system operation and what happens to their respective Oort clouds and Kuiper belts, check this page:

http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/evidence/sheeredge.shtml (http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/evidence/sheeredge.shtml)

It clearly shows that at one point in the cycle, flying debris are ejected in all directions. That makes for a cyclical happening of meteorites and asteroids showers our Earth and the other planets of this solar system haven't always been able to duck; like when the Dinosaurs folded.



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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 21st July 2011 at 20:28 #43 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?25666-Can-you-answer-this&p=267243&viewfull=1#post267243)
Re: Can you answer this?

So... Lunisolar or binary... here is what the guys at Binary Research Institute (http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/) have to say:

Layman's explanation: The precession of the equinox is the age-old phenomenon whereby an observer on Earth will notice that after one year (solar, tropical, equinoctial), he will not realign with the exact same point relative to the distant stars. From two to four thousand years ago observers on Earth noticed that the sun on the vernal equinox aligned with the constellation Aries, and in the last few thousand years with Pisces. Now as many know, we are at the "dawning of the age of Aquarius", meaning the sun on the vernal equinox is close to aligning with the constellation of Aquarius. This apparent backward motion of the stars (at the time of the equinox) is the precession of the equinox – whereby the equinoctial point slowly recedes through the 12 constellations of the Zodiac at the present rate of about 1 degree per 71.6 years. If this rate were constant it would take about 25,700 to 25,800 years to complete one full precession of the equinox. However, the annual rate is now speeding up, meaning the calculated length of one full cycle is getting shorter. If the observable of precession is due to an elliptical orbit of our sun around another star, as we believe, then this explains the reason for the variable rate of precession, and also tells us the full cycle will average something different than 25,700 years. All our calculations lead us to believe the period will average about 24,000 years as will be explained in a later section of this website.

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The precession of the equinox is observed as the stars moving across the sky at the rate of about 50 arc seconds per year, relative to the equinox. Conventional theory holds that this phenomenon is due to the gravity of the sun and moon acting upon the oblate spheroid of the earth causing the axis to wobble (the lunisolar theory). The alternative explanation advanced by the Binary Research Institute is that most of the observable is due to solar system motion, causing a reorientation of the earth relative to the fixed stars as the solar system gradually curves through space (the binary theory or model). We find the binary model better explains acceleration of the precession rate, better predicts changes in the rate, answers a number of solar system problems and has none of the paradoxes or inconsistencies associated with lunisolar precession theory.

The Research (http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/index.shtml) section includes a summary of our basic work investigating the mechanics of precession, describes some of the problems with current theory and gives data to show that solar system motion is a better explanation for the observable known as the precession of the equinox. If you move your mouse over the word “Research” you will find this work broken into five further sections entitled: Introduction, Evidence, Calculations, Finding It and Papers and Articles. We invite you to browse.

For a tutorial on our alternate view of precession please begin with the “Introduction” and keep clicking the “Next” button and it will carry you through each section of the presentation.

If you have any comments or questions about this website or any of our work please feel free to email me at:

Walter@BinaryResearchInstitute.org (walter@binaryresearchinstitute.org)

Warm Regards,
Walter Cruttenden

Check this page for an animation on how this works (click on "Forward" to step through):

http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...urvature.shtml (http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/curvature.shtml)

Look at this other animation to get a visual of how each partner of the binary system speed up or slow down in their orbit around the system's center of gravity:

http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...n/theory.shtml (http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/theory.shtml)

... and here to get the idea of how that translates for the observation of distant stars/constellations:

http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...mplicity.shtml (http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/evidence/simplicity.shtml)

As it is known that the Oort cloud has its outside edge nicely "polished" (i.e. the "Sheer Edge"), here is their animation on how that could occur with a binary system:

http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...heeredge.shtml (http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/evidence/sheeredge.shtml)

In short, our solar system (binary stars plus their respective planets) are dancing around the galactic center describing "traveling ovals."



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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 22nd July 2011 at 21:44 #45 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?25666-Can-you-answer-this&p=268094&viewfull=1#post268094)
Re: Can you answer this?

Originally Posted by IndigoStar
So the precession of the equinoxes is approaching and it only occurs every 26,000 years and has a drastic effect on the earth and its inhabitants....

so my question is what was the big change at the last precession of the equinoxes?

Looking forward to hearing your answers and thanks in advance : )

Hello IndigoStar!

To strictly answer your question, just look what were the news around 21st June, 2011.

That's when the last precession occurred, the next will be around 21st September, 2011... and so on; twice every year.

In view of what I posted above, the whole cycle of these precessions gets back to some arbitrary "square one" every 24,000 years on average. That's when our Sun has completed a full revolution around the center of gravity of our binary solar system.

Accordingly, I am not sure that the resetting to a "square one" has anything to do with the price of fish... it is just a long cycle timer with which cyclical events can be checked against.

The problem is: do we have bona fide cyclical events or just galactic flukes?


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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 25th July 2011 at 00:58 #604 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Proof-that-Comet-Elenin-doesn-t-exists--We-have-Nibiru-instead-&p=269436&viewfull=1#post269436)
Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

Originally Posted by ghostrider
... a mini solar system is passing thru our inner solar system with it's own sun and planets/moons and comets.

Almost but not quite: The mini solar system is associated with a brown dwarf star which is the companion to our Sun in its journey around the galaxy. Both constitute our BINARY solar system. As they dance around each other they don't penetrate into each other's planetary system but "polish" each other's Oort cloud. That's the assumption from our Oort cloud having a "sheer edge" on its outside (clean shaven outside, the inside is a lot fuzzier).




https://fwtinw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p-GVcbSbWldyGBQSPHMm5Gu2c_gQooLDnrX1_hMZrD_nh6r2dp8J qH4VVldBJlwtGscUOsel3d2lyJBIH_FTDPsGJs5eNRHVz/Binary-01.gif?psid=1




Look at this animation to get a visual of how each partner of the binary system speed up or slow down in their orbit around the system's center of gravity:

http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...n/theory.shtml (http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/theory.shtml)

As it is known that the Oort cloud has its outside edge nicely "polished" (i.e. the "Sheer Edge"), here is their animation on how that could occur with a binary system:

http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...heeredge.shtml (http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/evidence/sheeredge.shtml)



In short, our solar system (binary stars plus their respective planets) are dancing around the galactic center describing "traveling ovals."


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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 28th July 2011 at 23:12 #650 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Proof-that-Comet-Elenin-doesn-t-exists--We-have-Nibiru-instead-&p=272050&viewfull=1#post272050)
Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

Now let's dispel some of the spells the gloom & doom propagandists are casting all over the place.

The most accurate description of that mysterious (there it is that propaganda... "mysterious") body is that it is cold, hence not radiating much energy, and does not reflect light as a planet does (see the articles referenced in that PDF). Also, it does not perceptibly move as a planet or a comet would.

Hence:
A comet? NIET!

A planet? NIET!

So, why call it "Planet X," "Tyche," etc?


Now... Sitchin and Nibiru:

To start with, Sitchin works is only found under the "Fiction" section of a library.


Then this:

An interesting view which largely differs from the [now] commonly held beliefs about Sumer and the Sumerians, from Jonathan Gray:

SUMERIAN ASTRONOMY
A key element of Sumero-Mesopotamian religion was a concern with heavenly bodies that could be observed with the naked eye - especially the sun, moon, and Venus, due to their ease of visibility.

We observed earlier that the Sumerian culture was a paradox. On the one hand, the Sumerians, had an advanced knowledge of astronomy, geography, medicine and virtually all the sciences.

On the other hand, they were an entirely practical people, with no urge to search for truth for its own sake. They sought for no underlying principles, and undertook no experiments for verification. (Samuel M. Kramer, From the Tablets of Sumer. Indian Hills: Falcon’s Wing Press, 1956, pp. xviii, 6, 32, 58, 59)

For this reason, their astronomy dealt only with the visible – that which might have a practical effect on their everyday life.

ASTRONOMY WAS RELIGIOUS
And they linked astronomy to their religion.

That is why Sumero-Mesopotamian religion had a key concern with heavenly bodies that could be observed with the naked eye - especially the Sun, Moon, and Venus, due to their ease of visibility.

(Please note, this has a direct bearing on what we discovered in the previous chapter concerning Nibiru. The Sumerian documents say that Nibiru is visible EVERY YEAR.)

It is important to realize that each visible heavenly body was artistically symbolized - and stood for a deity.

Where did Sitchin find the 3600 years cycle for Nibiru? No one knows! It's certainly not written on any Sumerian tablets. Also, according to one of Bill Ryan's friend/witness, Sitchin wrote his books via automatic writings. Hence the "Fiction" category for his books.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20331-The-Anunnaki&p=216395&viewfull=1#post216395 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20331-The-Anunnaki&p=216395&viewfull=1#post216395)
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?24489-Was-Sitchin-wrong&p=257351&viewfull=1#post257351 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?24489-Was-Sitchin-wrong&p=257351&viewfull=1#post257351)

So, Nibiru? NIET!

In my view, keeping calling that identified body as "Nibiru" is a not so subtle way of perpetuating the propaganda.

Then, the author assumes that this electromagnetic generator follows in the wake of Elenin and will come to play pool/billiard with the planets of our solar system...

Well, I have trouble with that assumption simply because of the earlier known and published descriptions of said new pool-shark in town:

"Cold," not perceptibly "moving," but best candidate to explain the strange motions along the trajectories of our solar system outermost planets.

Why? Because closest massive object to our solar system.

To summarize: "Cold," imperceptible motions, closest-by massive object susceptible to provide explanations for the behavior of our border planets.

Hmmm... a "brown dwarf" fits the bill... but so close? Well, then, our solar system is a "Binary star system."

Wow!

That would explain the "Sheer Edge" of our sun's Oort cloud, wouldn't it?

... and... and... the precession of the Equinoxes as well, wouldn't it?

... and... and... all these Earth's catastrophes via meteor bombardments...

... and ... and... Velikovsky's stuff as well as McCanney's or those Thunderbolts of the Gods' stuff... awe inspiring, indeed...

Originally Posted by Amzer Zo
A mini solar system is associated with a brown dwarf star which is the companion to our Sun in its journey around the galaxy. Both constitute our BINARY solar system. As they dance around each other they don't penetrate into each other's planetary system but "polish" each other's Oort cloud. That's the assumption from our Oort cloud having a "sheer edge" on its outside (clean shaven outside, the inside is a lot fuzzier).




https://fwtinw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p-GVcbSbWldyGBQSPHMm5Gu2c_gQooLDnrX1_hMZrD_nh6r2dp8J qH4VVldBJlwtGscUOsel3d2lyJBIH_FTDPsGJs5eNRHVz/Binary-01.gif?psid=1


Look at this animation to get a visual of how each partner of the binary system speed up or slow down in their orbit around the system's center of gravity:

http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...n/theory.shtml (http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/theory.shtml)

As it is known that the Oort cloud has its outside edge nicely "polished" (i.e. the "Sheer Edge"), here is their animation on how that could occur with a binary system:

http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...heeredge.shtml (http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/evidence/sheeredge.shtml)


In short, our solar system (binary stars plus their respective planets) are dancing around the galactic center describing "travelling ovals."

... therefore: Never the twain shall meet

Besides the electromagnetic disturbances, the catastrophes that could occur would be from our twin stars shaving each other's Oort clouds:

https://fwtinw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pbOeTgzrNa9sADbYgZAy3z11fT69WySfDNJf42APzQ18uIC9 4BUr-vR5E2cZisY3m5R-8hhCXNzszwOKKaGdpYuA_4yCwt9F0/Sheer%20edge-02.gif?psid=1

That's the real danger: Bowling alley fiesta!

FYI: Earth quakes -- for energy conservation, storage capacity and release reasons -- cannot go much higher than 10 on the Richter scale.

However, a fair size asteroid hitting Earth could send the ensuing EQ's magnitude off the charts.



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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 31st July 2011 at 10:12 #687 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Proof-that-Comet-Elenin-doesn-t-exists--We-have-Nibiru-instead-&p=273723&viewfull=1#post273723)
Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

Originally Posted by The Truth Is In There
of course it's just a theory because there's no way for those who collected the data to do that for the last few millennia. it's based on elenins current trajectory and that's just what is is - current. they have no way to tell if (or when) it changed orbit in the past due to the gravitational pull of planet x. besides, you take for granted that nasa and the likes tell you the truth. my guess is that they know very well that elenin is tied to planet x and has pretty much the same orbit but they don't tell the people, for obvious reasons.

btw, i'm not sure if you understand how prophecy works. the prophets have seen elenin/the blue kachina at this point in time so it couldn't have been grabbed by some other stellar object and sent out to outer space as you suggested because then it wouldn't have been possible for them so see it come here the way they did. and because it does come along now just like it was foreseen means it fulfills the prophecy and tells us that we're in the very timeline these prophets saw in their visions. and that, in turn, tells us that the other things they saw are also going to happen because they're part of the same prophecy.

First, I was pointing out that the 1 million years period of Elenin couldn't be a theory simply because it is derived from empirical data, i.e. observation. Hence it cannot be an "Of course it's a theory."

Second, I never said I was taking "NASA's and the likes'" data for granted. The period is verified by others. An example of that was that NASA first considered the orbit as being non-periodic, i.e. a space fluke coming in and going out never to be seen again. Others rightfully disagreed with that.

As for the Hopi prophecies, if I am not mistaken, the Elders themselves uttered something to the effect that the outcome could change or not happen as envisioned.

If you go back to Post #650 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Proof-that-Comet-Elenin-doesn-t-exists--We-have-Nibiru-instead-&p=272050&viewfull=1#post272050), the said space object cannot be a planet. So, no "Planet X." The only hypothesis about that object which still hold some water is the Brown Dwarf, binary companion to our Sun. That Brown Dwarf and our Sun have a period of 24,000 years in dancing around each other. Therefore that Blue Kachina needs to have a similar period in order to be a harbinger of the Brown Dwarf.

I don't know how else to convey to you that that space object cannot follow the same orbital path as Elenin. That's part of the hogwash as pointed out by Chuck regarding that PDF/Scrib paper.

Reread that Post #650 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Proof-that-Comet-Elenin-doesn-t-exists--We-have-Nibiru-instead-&p=272050&viewfull=1#post272050) and understand what's in there. It was my attempt to clear the confusion and propaganda that's being purposefully perpetuated about the subject. I apologize if it's not clear enough.



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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 1st August 2011 at 09:35 #726 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Proof-that-Comet-Elenin-doesn-t-exists--We-have-Nibiru-instead-&p=274465&viewfull=1#post274465)
Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

Originally Posted by Amzer Zo
First, I was pointing out that the 1 million years period of Elenin couldn't be a theory simply because it is derived from empirical data, i.e. observation. Hence it cannot be an "Of course it's a theory."

Originally Posted by The Truth Is In There
ok you win. apparently it has been observed for the last one million years. i didn't know that.

I see... well, one versed in some good maths and physics only needs the coordinates, compute the speed from time of discovery up to now in order to construct the orbital path and its period; no need to be sarcastic.

Originally Posted by Amzer Zo
As for the Hopi prophecies, if I am not mistaken, the Elders themselves uttered something to the effect that the outcome could change or not happen as envisioned.

Originally Posted by The Truth Is In There
yes but obviously it is happening.

I am sorry but what exactly is "obviously" happening beside a lot of GooTube hysteria and disinfo?

Originally Posted by Amzer Zo
If you go back to Post #650 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Proof-that-Comet-Elenin-doesn-t-exists--We-have-Nibiru-instead-&p=272050&viewfull=1#post272050), the said space object cannot be a planet. So, no "Planet X." The only hypothesis about that object which still hold some water is the Brown Dwarf, binary companion to our Sun. That Brown Dwarf and our Sun have a period of 24,000 years in dancing around each other. Therefore that Blue Kachina needs to have a similar period in order to be a harbinger of the Brown Dwarf.

Originally Posted by The Truth Is In There
i merely called it planet x because that's the name it was given back in the 80s when the first stories about it appeared in the newspapers and it's the name the zetas use. i could call it nibiru if you prefer that or wormwood or the destroyer. it doesn't matter, it's just a name.

i stand by my kachina theory. in 2-3 months we'll know who was right.

"Planet X" was the first disinfo attached to that body from some insider guy, whether willfully or not because they had the data it was a very cold object with no, to little, perceptible motion ruling it out as either a comet or a planet. The piece of disinfo was to call it a planet enticing people to look for a planet that didn't exist. Blown to propaganda proportion by MSM "newspapers." Makes sense?

Now, about the Zetas, did you ever read what a former outspoken disseminator of their "predictions" and "data" ended up publishing about them? Here is the link for the record:

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/plane...15jul;04.shtml (http://educate-yourself.org/cn/planetXsequel15jul;04.shtml)

where you could find some info about Nancy Lieder being an unaware (benefit of the doubt) CIA mind controlled asset.

Nibiru is a hoax invented by Sitchin and/or his channeled entity, again see Post #650 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Proof-that-Comet-Elenin-doesn-t-exists--We-have-Nibiru-instead-&p=272050&viewfull=1#post272050) as well as this one:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post257351 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?24489-Was-Sitchin-wrong&p=257351&viewfull=1#post257351)

I understand now where you are coming from; but, then, why not call that cold object by its closest descriptive name? That is, a brown dwarf. So as to avoid the propaganda, disinfo and agendas attached to all these other names. As you may be aware of, calling it any names known in the MSM, you do further the purpose of the propaganda, disinfo and agenda attached to that name. Therefore, it isn't exactly just a "name."

Nothing against standing by your opinion...

Here is what the discoverer had to say about his discovery and what people ended making out of it. Here's from the horse's mouth:

The panic on the Internet began with a genuine snapshot, published by one of the Argentine astronomers, and few people bothered to pay attention to the date - April 1st. In the center - a comet with a symbol C 2010 X1 Elenin, and on each side, wrote the scientist, - something that looks very much like two alien spacecraft. They are on their way! - the Internet exploded and started to await the end of the world.
[...]
Leonid Elenin, researcher in the Institute of Applied Mathematics says: "I receive letters that ask me to present a passport."

Interviewer: "Where the letters are coming from?"

Leonid Elenin: "Well, most of them come from the U.S.. Right now, during the last week, I was 'buried' by letters from Russia. From U.S. also came: 'We don't believe you. Show your passport.' To which I replied: Why do I have to show you anything?"
[...]
Leonid Elenin: "These are actually stars. What happens is, that during a certain process of adding several frames in relation to the velocity of the comet, these stars stretch into tracks. In principle, any astronomer should know this."
[...]
Interviewer: "It is similar to a bright spot being smeared on the picture taken at night."

Leonid Elenin: "Yes, of course. And the discovery of a comet was my dream, a childhood dream. And it was accomplished. Of course, I was happy and so on. But now, all this is happening around my comet. There are, for example, the following letters: 'Leonid, tell us the truth. I am selling my house. And my family and I are heading for the mountains.' It's nothing but hysteria. More so, the comet is absolutely safe for the Earth. It will pass at a distance of 34 million kilometers from the planet."
[...]

Full article, click: here (http://www.sott.net/articles/show/231479-Interview-with-Russian-astronomer-Leonid-Elenin-The-discoverer-of-comet-Elenin)

That's for Elenin.

Now, the Brown Dwarf... that's another story because of its interaction with Our Sun which dictates what's occurring with the planets around it. Electromagnetism being the main engine.

That's my take for the moment; it might change without notice as new data are made available.



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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 2nd August 2011 at 23:39 #760 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Proof-that-Comet-Elenin-doesn-t-exists--We-have-Nibiru-instead-&p=275688&viewfull=1#post275688)
Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

Originally Posted by Malachi
[...]
hi Amzer Zo, I like your posts.

yes, my question was about this brown dwarf. correct me if I am wrong, but if a brown dwarf with a size and mass of many-many Jupiters came to our system in every 24 thousand years, in that case our Solar System would not exist in this form. 24 thousand years is nothing on the planets' time scale, I think. our Solar System is too still and peaceful place for something big stuff like this. Am I wrong? I'm not an astrophysicist, just wondering...

Let me put it this way, our solar system as a binary system, has become stable as such for a long, long time with both stars orbiting around each other. Check this animation to get a visual on how this works:

http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...n/theory.shtml (http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/theory.shtml)

As such, the rule of the relationship between our Sun, its companion and their respective planets is: NEVER THE TWAIN SHALL MEET!


Hence all you can read about a large object coming in between Earth and Sun and using our Sun planetary system as a bowling alley is just propaganda and disinfo to foster fear and hysteria.

However, heavy cometary and asteroid showers and ensuing catastrophes can result from the twin stars shaving each other's Oort cloud as depicted in this other animation:

http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/evidence/sheeredge.shtml

Hope this helps clarify the waters purposefully muddied?



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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 3rd August 2011 at 05:36 #770 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Proof-that-Comet-Elenin-doesn-t-exists--We-have-Nibiru-instead-&p=275854&viewfull=1#post275854)
Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

Thunderbolts of the Gods (http://vimeo.com/16256646)... definitely a must see, best show in town.

Now... what if... all these stories about catastrophes and their cycles were a mix from different extraterrestrial cultures... all mixed up with the ones native to Earth? With Earth being the rescue mother-ship?

How's that for a thought?

Moreover, what if, instead of being regularly bombarded with Oort clouds shavings, we were bombarded with the meteorized remnants of a planetary, "man"-made catastrophe?

About most everyone has heard of the "destruction" of Atlantis... of the "destruction" of Lemuria... what about the "destruction" of Marduck/Maldek?

If there's any truth to this; then, even a "cyclical" occurrence of catastrophes on Earth is part of a propaganda and disinfo on the origins of these catastrophes. Some sort of cosmic 9-11 if you will....

If you are inclined to learn more on this topic, listen to this guy:

You've heard of him... J.P. Farrell...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PgNt...eature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PgNt-FPtq0&feature=related) or:


Farrell makes reference to Tom van Flandern with respect to the computation of the point of origin of families of meteorids; here is the most recent paper I could find on this:

http://metaresearch.org/solar%20system/eph/eph2000.asp (http://metaresearch.org/solar%20system/eph/eph2000.asp)

Hope you'll enjoy watching all the new worms coming out of this can...

greybeard
2nd April 2013, 10:32
Hi Amzer Zo
I have no doubt of your ability and honest desire to speak and know the truth.
There has been a lot of hpe regarding--something out there and no doubt most of it is just not true--however as yet I have not seen a simple explanation as to why the planets in our solar system including earth are acting up.
Galactic super wave seems credible--the area of space we have just entered into may well be full of meteorites etc however there seems to specific times when there is more earth quakes fireballs etc.
I am not in a position to debate this with you Amzer Zo I just dont have the education and im dyslexic so reading long scientific work is just not possible.
A simple answer must be possible.
Im only interested in truth.

Regards Chris

Hervé
2nd April 2013, 10:34
Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 6th August 2011 at 23:59 #16 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?26986-Comet-Elenin-Connections-with-911-strange-coincidences-and-the-mayan-calendar&p=278806&viewfull=1#post278806)
Re: Comet Elenin - Connections with 911, strange coincidences and the mayan calendar

There is a deliberate obfuscation propagated and fueled in the new alternative MSM regarding these stellar objects to such an extent that a puny comet is being dubbed as a dwarf star or a neutron star, etc....

Elenin is just a puny comet, no more. What people turn it into, that's their own.

However, there are growing evidences that our solar system is a binary star system.

Check this post for an overview: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post272050 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Proof-that-Comet-Elenin-doesn-t-exists--We-have-Nibiru-instead-&p=272050&viewfull=1#post272050)

The period of the orbiting around each other of our Sun and its twin Brown Dwarf is determined by the precession of the Equinoxes. One cycle takes 24,000 years to complete:

Binary Model - Kepler Solution

An observer on a planet in a binary system would notice a change in orientation at a rate commensurate to the orbit period around the common center of mass. (USNO) With minor local effects and no eccentricity, this type of change in orientation at 50´´p/y would equate to an orbit periodicity of 25,920 years. (1,296,000/50 = 25,920). At 54´´p/y, again with minor local effects and no eccentricity, this type of change in orientation would equate to 24,000 years (1,296,000/54 = 24,000). In 1894, about the same time that the great astronomer Simon Newcomb gave us a precession formula with a constant of .000222 p/y (designed to predict changes in the precession rate), an Indian astronomer, Sri Yukteswar, explained that the moving equinox (precession) was a result of a moving solar system and he gave us a binary orbit periodicity of 24,000 years, with apoapsis at 500 A.D. Thus, one scientist gave us a strictly local dynamics model and the other a strictly non-local dynamic SS model. Which model was more accurate over the next 100 years?

[...]

Comparing Yukteswar’s and Newcomb’s predictions to the actual we find the dynamic SS model to be 41 times more accurate than the lunisolar precession model over the last 100 years.

In this chart we have included precession calculations for 10 year periods, over the last 100 years.


http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/images/research/calculations/precession-trends.gif

The first nine points are from Newcomb (or use Newcomb’s methodology) and the last three are from the Astronomical Almanac. The red line is a plot of the rate of increase (in arc length) required for a body in a 24,000 year orbit (Dynamic Solar System Model). Note the slope of the red line better fits the long term precession observable compared to Newcomb's calculations.

It is a given (in the right column) as the annual rate of precession accelerates, the orbit period (or wobble cycle in lunisolar theory) will decrease.

The ascending line is the plot one would expect to see if our sun were in a binary orbit with a total period of 24,000 years and mild eccentricity. Notice the historical data has a high correlation to our hypothesized orbit period.

Lunisolar theory gives no good reason for the trend. A binary orbit, conforming to the laws of elliptical orbits, is a logical explanation.

A binary system is two stars gravitationally bound orbiting a common center of mass. The stars can be of the same or differing sizes and orbits can be as short as a few days or as long as thousands of years. The short ones are easy to detect, the long ones difficult, some probably impossible to detect because of the very long observation period required.


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=9229&d=1311556208&thumb=1

While there is no obvious visible companion star to our Sun, there could be a dark binary, such as a brown dwarf or possibly a relatively small black hole, either of which might be very difficult to detect, without accurate and lengthy analysis

The above is taken from http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...n/theory.shtml (http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/theory.shtml)

check it out!



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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 23rd August 2011 at 12:02 #999 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=290742&viewfull=1#post290742)
Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

All right, enough of these

Thanks to The One for uncovering this gem of a video:


CsagEYfxPgs

It is worth a few listen/viewing because it yields the clue as to what's happening to this solar system.

In it, Stan Deyo explains what generates gravity and its standing waves in a system and that explanation accounts for about everything that's currently occurring planet wise.

He worked at generating anti-gravity fields with working scale models of larger vehicles. In order to do that, one has to get a good grasp of how gravity works... and there resides the crux of Earth and solar system changes.

Planets are located on annular standing waves generated by the Sun's rotating field and bounced back from outer space.

Hence, minimally, three things can influence the stationary wave where a planet is located:

1) something changing the Sun's rotating field,

2) something disturbing the outer space bouncing boundary,

3) a combination of the above two.

Sooooo... if gravity and anti-gravity are generated by rotating fields... changes in those at the scale of a planet would generate changes in electromagnetic phenomena and in what we took for granted such as the magnetic north pole...

Changes in gravity would also generate tectonic re-adjustments, wouldn't they?

Since it seems the Sun is still rotating the same old pace... what could possibly be causing the planetary changes currently occurring?

Could it... Noooohh... that couldn't... you mean... something is disturbing that outer space bouncing boundary?

That's far out, isn't it?

Yep!

So is a binary companion star...



https://fwtinw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p-GVcbSbWldyGBQSPHMm5Gu2c_gQooLDnrX1_hMZrD_nh6r2dp8J qH4VVldBJlwtGscUOsel3d2lyJBIH_FTDPsGJs5eNRHVz/Binary-01.gif?psid=1



... let you chew on that one!


For those of you not familiar with Stan Deyo, he is about the only guy who was getting more and more accurate at predicting earth quakes from sea surface temperature resulting from plasma discharges... so, NOAA knock down the display of their sensors readings off the internet.



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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 29th August 2011 at 00:16 #1059 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=295184&viewfull=1#post295184)
Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

Originally Posted by Mandala
Amzer Zo, what is your bottom line opinion on the comet, the large astronomical body and the asteroid? If google sky is from '07, and this is a piddly little comet, is most of this pure distraction? Many people say Nibiru was destroyed years ago. You have a lot of data which I appreciate, but could you speculate a little from all you know and understand?

Thanks, Mandala

Elenin: a distraction/decoy for man made/enhanced catastrophes; similar to the box-cutter armed plane-highjakers of 9-11.

Nibiru: read/re-read post # 650 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=272050&viewfull=1#post272050) and post # 934 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=287311&viewfull=1#post287311)

Large astronomical body: idem (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=272050&viewfull=1#post272050)

Brown Dwarf coming within this solar system: fear and doom & gloom propaganda/psyop since this solar system wouldn't exist as it currently is. A binary system implies: Never the twain shall meet! See post # 650 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=272050&viewfull=1#post272050)

For a subjective take on "man-made" catastrophes, have a look at this video:


nNmTxoFWpMk

That video gives one a different story regarding recurrent meteorites/asteroids bombardments of Earth and other planets as well as cyclical, extinction level, meteorite generated catastrophes.

As for earthquakes of magnitude 12-15: bollocks!

For reasons having to do with rocks capacity to store and release stress energy, natural earthquakes cannot go beyond magnitude 10-10.5 on the Richter Scale.

Meteoritic impacts could.

My take is that our solar system is a binary star system and our Sun's twin is pulling on our Sun's strings, generating the observed changes not only on Earth but solar system wide.

There are changes, but there is a group of people making the most out of it at the expense of the rest of the population; feeding the fear and, conversely, feeding on it.


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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 30th August 2011 at 13:01 #6 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?28952-The-PROCESSIONAL-CYCLE-and-the-END-DATE&p=296216&viewfull=1#post296216)
Re: The PROCESSIONAL CYCLE and the END DATE

For an in-depth discussion on the precession of the Equinoxes and the value of the different models followed, see this site:

http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...ecession.shtml (http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/precession.shtml)

Layman's explanation: The precession of the equinox is the age-old phenomenon whereby an observer on Earth will notice that after one year (solar, tropical, equinoctial), he will not realign with the exact same point relative to the distant stars. From two to four thousand years ago observers on Earth noticed that the sun on the vernal equinox aligned with the constellation Aries, and in the last few thousand years with Pisces. Now as many know, we are at the "dawning of the age of Aquarius", meaning the sun on the vernal equinox is close to aligning with the constellation of Aquarius. This apparent backward motion of the stars (at the time of the equinox) is the precession of the equinox – whereby the equinoctial point slowly recedes through the 12 constellations of the Zodiac at the present rate of about 1 degree per 71.6 years. If this rate were constant it would take about 25,700 to 25,800 years to complete one full precession of the equinox. However, the annual rate is now speeding up, meaning the calculated length of one full cycle is getting shorter. If the observable of precession is due to an elliptical orbit of our sun around another star, as we believe, then this explains the reason for the variable rate of precession, and also tells us the full cycle will average something different than 25,700 years. All our calculations lead us to believe the period will average about 24,000 years as will be explained in a later section of this website.
[...]
Next, is the same chart in an "Angular Momentum to Mass ratio" formula. You can see all the bodies in our solar system have ratios in line with their mass except for the Sun.


http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/images/research/evidence/ev_img_anglestand2.gif

We then added one input into the existing formula: we assumed the Sun was moving in a binary orbit with a period of 24,000 years.


http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/images/research/evidence/ev_img_anglenew.gif

As you can see, the Sun came right into line.

This indicates the Sun may indeed have it's proper angular momentum (proportional to it's mass) providing another indication our sun is part of a binary or multiple star system.

[...]

Precession Model Considerations

We offer here a revised precession model based on a moving solar system, herein called the Binary Model or simply new model in this animation (you can stop or start the animations individually with the controls in the lower right hand corner). Note that both models look very similar and have similar observables.
(see site's animations for a better grasp of the idea)

In both models the point of equinox occurs where the celestial equator (grey disk) intersects the ecliptic (gold disk), which of course occurs twice a year - the first day of Spring and the first day of Autumn. And in both models the equinox moves at the same rate relative to the black background and fixed text (which represents the fixed stars).

The difference in the models is that the conventional model moves the point of equinox by requiring the celestial equator to slip along the ecliptic (a wobbling earth scenario as propounded by lunisolar theory), whereas in the binary model the ecliptic and celestial equator remain fixed (meaning the equinox occurs at the same point every year in the earth’s orbit path around the sun) moving against the background stars simply because the solar system moves.

The only way to easily tell the difference between the two models is by noting the position of an observer (the red X) relative to the equinox, ecliptic and celestial equator. In the conventional model the solar system is static and therefore the observer is stuck in one position (relative to the fixed stars), so the only way the equinox can move relative to the fixed stars is if the point at which the celestial equator intersects the ecliptic is constantly in local motion. In the binary model the observer remains fixed in relation to local markers and the equinox moves because the solar system moves.

The simplest observable of the precession of the equinox is that at the time of the annual equinox we observe that the sun has moved west about 50” from the position it was in the year before – relative to the background stars. Under conventional theory this motion is considered “apparent” with astronomers believing the sun did not actually move – it just “appeared” to move because the earth wobbled by 50”.

But in the new model things are much simpler. The sun moves across the sky at 50” p/y because this is how much the solar system moves per year (its angular velocity). The “precession of the equinox” then is not an “apparent” motion of the sun – it is a real motion of the sun. The solar system moves!

According to this new discovery based on observed, empirical data... everybody's wrong with their calendar!



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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 31st August 2011 at 11:26 #1092 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=296967&viewfull=1#post296967)
Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

Originally Posted by teddyc1
Thanks Amzer. Very interesting repost of the binary twin scenario.
[...]
Clearly, Velikovsky was quite wrong about Venus.
[...]
Teddy

Hi Teddy!

Not so sure about Velikosky being wrong about Venus: Check what this guy has to say about Venus, its orbit and its "venero-physics" (as compared to "geo-physics")... doesn't properly belong to this planetary system.


y8oQn-8YmU0



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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 2sd September 2011 at 23:46 #1147 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=299190&viewfull=1#post299190)
Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

Originally Posted by greybeard
Im laughing because every time logic clicks in there is another twist in the "tale" of Elenin.

My thoughts are -----that its true that the comet is disintegrating.
I have never believed any alien connection.

You "said" it yourself... "tale."

All the data are there for anyone to understand but I guess most people have a hard time understanding the "PR" point brought forth by Bill Ryan... Hoagland uses it to the max whereas amateur astronomers have no interest in spinning a "tale" since they believe in "credibility" and in one's own integrity and honor.

Seems the "PR" propaganda dept. is having another go at the Hale-Bopp recipe with a "mysterious," large object in the wake of Elenin, etc... now I understand Laura Knight-Jadczyk comment to Kerry about having blood on their hands and refused to participate to that conference.

From: http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tworx433.htm (http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tworx433.htm)

Enterprise Mission
For instance, "Zeta Talk" has alleged, in 1995, among other things, that Hale-Bopp was "not a comet." This would come as quite a surprise to those of us that viewed it our night skies for several months in 1997. They've also claimed that Enterprise principal investigator Richard C. Hoagland once went on Art Bell to concur with this opinion by stating he "suspected Hale-Bopp of being not a comet but an intelligently driven star-like object." We of course never said any such thing. They've also charged that Hoagland did this at NASA's behest in return for a promise that NASA would re-photograph Cydonia. No such "quid-pro-quo" has ever taken place between these two parties on any matter. Enterprise Mission, 2002

Originally Posted by greybeard
[...]
I do believe that we are having massive changes in our solar system,
I am not sure what is causing this but I suspect that the electro magnetic ribbon moving in from the gllactic center has more to do with it than any comet or planet.
Regards
Chris

A little semantic disagreement: is that a belief or is it observations/data collection?

Personally, I am not entirely convinced about that energized cloud of particles; I am more inclined to consider a binary star system to have a greater, more noticeable influence then a cloud of particles... unless that cloud happens to amplify the effects of the Sun's twin.

Debatable until more factual data are made available.

How am I doing Amzer Zo?

I don't know... Chris, how are you doing?



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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 3rd September 2011 at 02:03 #1149 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=299258&viewfull=1#post299258)
Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

Originally Posted by MorningSong
OK, So I'm back...because I'm sick of seeing my nick show up so often in what I consider at troll attack.
Please stop copying and re-pasting yourself, Amzer Zo.
I want to know what you really think about this Elenin thing. It appears you think you know something so brilliant that just seems so obvious, that you can't understand why the others of us can't read your mind. Enlighten us, please!

Read my posts, they provide the factual data I know of on the subject as compared to someone's ideas and words.

Someone already asked me that question and I answered. There are data in the face of the doom & gloom hype and propaganda... the data are not paid attention to but, gawd, is the doom & gloom ever considered and re-circulated and reborn in new threads out of the ashes of old ones, etc.



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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 13th September 2011 at 02:21 #2 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30301-Are-we-in-a-binary-system&p=307424&viewfull=1#post307424)
Re: Are we in a binary system?

Been promulgating it for a while but it's been drowned every time with... prophecies and the likes (see here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post267243 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?25666-Can-you-answer-this&p=267243&viewfull=1#post267243) and here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post269436 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=269436&viewfull=1#post269436)).

It is more than a "think" as they collected supportive evidence from many fields.



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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 13th September 2011 at 03:35 #4 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30301-Are-we-in-a-binary-system&p=307471&viewfull=1#post307471)
Re: Are we in a binary system?

Posted by Bridey (here) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=307455#post307455)
[...] Tis a good website though....

It is indeed! I was hoping that, opened in a new thread, it might spark some interest...

That it is a good site with rational data may explain to you the lack of rush to this thread...

My take anyway, after my experience of it in the Elenin thread. It seems that too many of the people posting are more interested in some kind of huge stellar object barreling down the stellar bowling alley to use the planets of this solar system as pins...



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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 19th September 2011 at 01:02 #19 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30578-Binary-Star-Isn-t-Real-Until-it-is-on-CNN&p=311920&viewfull=1#post311920)
Re: Binary Star Isn't "Real" Until it is on CNN

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=311739#post311739)
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What puzzles me is elenin has 75+ threads and the biggest 66+ pages ... yet you were the first (and only thus far) to comment on the fact that it is being announced on msm tv that our binary star, brown dwarf, nibiru, plantet x, wormwood, red kachina ... whatever the heck you want to call it has entered the outer reaches of our solar system.
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Cal

How's that even possible?

Meaning: That binary star IS PART OF OUR SOLAR SYSTEM! It's always been! That's why it's a binary system/star!

Remember:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=251651#post251651)
Now, that said, Elenin being ascertained as no dwarf star (Phewwtttffff!); the interest directed at that comet is because it came out of a sector of the sky where a dwarf star was expected to be detected.

The dwarf star or brown dwarf, the Sun's binary companion in short, hasn't been ruled out at all! To the contrary!

This article is about the clearest layman's terms arguments for the existence of such a stellar body:

Is the Sun Part of a Binary Star System? - Six Reasons to Consider (http://www.sott.net/articles/show/230480-Is-the-Sun-Part-of-a-Binary-Star-System-Six-Reasons-to-Consider)

Amongst other things, it clearly shows how a sheared off Oort cloud occurs. That is, no "Flying objects" beyond but a lot within.

And lots of 'em flying objects when the brush off happens!

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=251653#post251653)
Agreed.
Bob Dean suggested 2016 or 2017 time frame correct???



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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 19th September 2011 at 01:51 #22 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30578-Binary-Star-Isn-t-Real-Until-it-is-on-CNN&p=311949&viewfull=1#post311949)
Re: Binary Star Isn't "Real" Until it is on CNN

Posted by Amzer Zo (here) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=311920#post311920)
Meaning: That binary star IS PART OF OUR SOLAR SYSTEM! It's always been! That's why it's a binary system/star!

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=311925#post311925)
With a highly eliptical orbit.

I agree that a binary star would be considered part of the same solar system as it's twin star.

What I was trying to imply was it is being suggested as coming into what most of us non-atronomers (the 99.999% of the world population) would recognize as "our solar system".

Forgive me if that was too vague.

Yeah... that may be why things like this:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=272050#post272050)
Now let's dispel some of the spells the gloom & doom propagandists are casting all over the place.

The most accurate description of that mysterious (there it is that propaganda... "mysterious") body is that it is cold, hence not radiating much energy, and does not reflect light as a planet does (see the articles referenced in that PDF). Also, it does not perceptibly move as a planet or a comet would.

Hence:
A comet? NIET!

A planet? NIET!

So, why call it "Planet X," "Tyche," etc?
[...]

... kept getting buried under sensationalizing videos and other things, no matter how many times and ways I offered to demonstrate it as an impossibility in that thread.

Sensationalism using the same twist as the OP CNN video: "It's entering our solar system..." boy did that ever caught on like a wild fire...

Unless I change my mind, the only thing I am gonna add on this thread about the subject is this:

If this large body is a binary star to our system, then it has an established revolution/orbit around our solar system; hence determining a cycle. Therefore, if at each cycle it were to barrel down through our "solar system" like it were a bowling alley, this current solar system wouldn't exist as it is and we wouldn't be occupying one of its planets.

Under all apparency, we are occupying one of its planets and apparently this "solar system" has been stable like it is for a lot longer than the 24,000 years orbital period of this cycle.

Oort cloud comets and asteroids bombings may be, however, a result of this orbital period; hence the need for a reliable calendar...



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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 19th September 2011 at 07:12 #36 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30578-Binary-Star-Isn-t-Real-Until-it-is-on-CNN&p=312081&viewfull=1#post312081)
Re: Binary Star Isn't "Real" Until it is on CNN

To give one an idea on the length to which an organization can go to, to convince a certain group of people of something, watch (or rewatch) the beginning of this video where Stan Deyo recounts the outline of "Noise Level."



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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 30th September 2011 at 11:39 #1411 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=321807&viewfull=1#post321807)
Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

Posted by teddyc1 (here) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=321801#post321801)
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So, if i understand you correctly Amzer Zo, correct me if I'm wrong:
1) In the binary star scenario, the 2nd star can never pass between our Sun and the earth

2) The most it can do is increase the meteor showers a whole lot, and possibly some big ones (as in Revelation 8:8)

If that's true, then the earthquakes which coincided with the "elenin" conjunctions, according to the NASA JPL model, might just fit the nuclear/fracking scenario posed by Fulford and commented on this thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?31059-60-000-Americans-Killed-in-Underground-NWO-Base).

In other words, TPTB/W have been artificially making/enhancing earthquakes in order to 1) bribe certain nations and 2) generate the nibiru fear porn. Does this makes sense - any comments?

That's the idea.




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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 2sd October 2011 at 01:34 #1415 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=323031&viewfull=1#post323031)
Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

Well, this one is over folks...


... the "super-new-moon" is gone...



http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=10220&d=1317519020



... ... the "alignment" is gone...



... ... ... the comet's gone to pieces...

So long and thanks for the fish!



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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 2sd October 2011 at 14:16 #1418 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=323321&viewfull=1#post323321)
Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

Posted by The Truth Is In There (here) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=323220#post323220)
nothing is over imho. "comet" elenin will continue to play the major role in what's going to happen here on earth... [...]

Hi TTIIT, I am curious as to what isn't understandable about that particular one, you know, the 27th Sept. alignment with a cloud of dust, being gone, done and over with?

Unless, of course, one got caught in an endlessly looping time line.

IMO, there is such a thing as accountability when such hype for huge catastrophes being predicted with the chorus of doom & gloom propaganda being repeated over and over from the 90s on... Hale-Bopp... Nibiru 2003... Elenin… 27th Sept. 2011... I can see it now... it's all in your signature.

Hervé
2nd April 2013, 10:50
Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 2nd November 2011 03:53 Link to Post #4 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?33813-Astronomy-tools-for-viewing-the-brown-dwarf--aka-nibiru-aka-planet-x-etc-&p=345488&viewfull=1#post345488)
Re: Astronomy tools for viewing the brown dwarf (aka nibiru aka planet x etc)

A note of clarification on his "global earthquake" spiel, there is no such a thing as far as I know since that would mean the whole Earth's crust in every and each of its points would be an earthquake hypocenter... no one would be left to tell the tale.

What he is showing in support of his speculation is this:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=10984&d=1320204121 http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=10985&d=1320204233

That is, one big earthquake and its aftershocks somewhere like in Japan on March 11 (above left), and it gets recorded on every seismographs on Earth within a few minutes to one hour at the antipodes from the epicenter/hypocenter:


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=10986&d=1320204368


Click on picture to enlarge

There has been enough big quakes recently where he took his examples (China, Turkey, Chile, Mariannas/Kermadec) to send every seismographs around Earth off their recording range...

Taking this as an indication of an Earth expansion doesn't quite sit right with the data of most of these big quakes being of the "crunch" (compression) type rather than pure rift/extension type.

An expansion of the Earth would cancel subductions at active margins such as along the Rim of Fire and would only leave mid-oceanic ridges active... not quite the case.

As for that heavy, invisible object, as Bill said: to be followed since there will be only indirect indicators of its space location.

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I wasn't sure when I heard him say "This is Terral..." if it's the same guy as Terral03... so I checked the "Read more" section... and there he is; that same group:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=277002#post277002)
Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=272538#post272538)
Was still hoping to get confirmation regarding Saturn.

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=272538#post272538)
Could the photos themselves have been rotated???

That would still not account for the Saturn moon images ... nor the storm.

Posted by Amzer Zo (here) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=277002#post277002)
I think someone was having difficulties taking pictures with his telescope...



http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=10987&d=1320207611


Dr. Byron Glenn is... that guy:

Cape doctor says he's not leading survivalist group and has been harassed by believers in 'Planet X'
Sunday, July 10, 2011
By M.D. Kittle ~ Southeast Missourian
http://www.semissourian.com/photos/15/04/70/1504709-M.jpg (http://www.semissourian.com/story/1743142/photo/1504709.html)

Dr. Byron Glenn at Cape Urgent Care
(Fred Lynch)

Dr. Byron Glenn of Cape Girardeau says he wants nothing to do with the people he sees as online crackpots trumpeting a "conspiracy wrapped in an enigma."

He's not alone. The folks at NASA have fruitlessly tried to debunk what they say are wild conspiracies involving Comet Elenin -- a "wimpy" projectile expected to remain more than 20 million miles from Earth.

Glenn said he's been harassed and threatened by doomsday believers of "Planet X," an idea spreading in the blogosphere and in online chat rooms about a brown dwarf star, a low-mass object rapidly approaching the solar system and bent on destroying much of the Earth. He said that believers, apparently followers of Terral L. Croft, or "Terral03" as he is known in anxiety-ridden chat rooms, have shown up at his North Mount Auburn Road family practice demanding answers.

"I'm not the leader of any group. I can't tell people what to do. I don't want to," Glenn told the Southeast Missourian last week when asked about his connection to Croft's "research group," reportedly made up of people who plan to head for caves in Missouri's Ozarks in the coming weeks. The plan, according to Croft and a series of online correspondence in recent months, is to ride out the earthquakes, floods, volcanoes and other calamities they believe to be coming, thanks to the magnetic and polarizing effects of Planet X.

Croft, in letters to members of the group, describes Glenn as his good friend, a man he's been acquainted with for some time. He and others say Glenn is leading the Ozark survivalists. Glenn says he's never met Croft, a man he describes as "out there" and "on the edge," a Revelation chaser and Sept. 11 conspiracist.
"I am not the leader of any Ozark survival group," Glenn said.

Others say he is -- most notably Croft, who in his more recent Internet messages claims "our survival group leader and physician Dr. Byron Glenn and his engineer son" saw some disturbing things in their "expensive telescope.""Dr. Glenn was able to zoom in on the area of our dwarf star to realize he was looking at a monster of great size. We cannot see the actual dwarf star, but now he can make out the dark area and the dancing stars in the background created by the gravitational leasing effect," Croft wrote in his communique.
[...]

Full article here: http://www.semissourian.com/story/1743142.html (http://www.semissourian.com/story/1743142.html)

Too many contradictions and 3D physical impossibilities from Terral03 who seem to be the actual author of that anonymous PDF/Scribb paper.

As for Saturn's tilt... here's what GLP's amateur astronomer has to say:

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Re: [+PIN+] ELEnin & Nibiru NEW Report... Holy SH*T READ THIS!!!!Quote (http://204.74.214.194/bbs/reply.php?messageid=1574871&page=30&quote=26041998) [+ (http://javascript%3cb%3e%3c/b%3e:addQuote('reply',%20'26041998');)] # (http://204.74.214.194/forum1/message1574871/reply26041998)
I read through the file. I've read hundreds of postings here and on other sites on this subject and found a lot of doomers and debunkers alike and I seriously don't know which to trust. Amateurs, "professionals", claimed professionals, religious quotes...You name it.
Quoting: Captain Spaulding 1366925

You can trust amateur astronomers. We have no reason or motivation to lie, and indeed we're telling the truth. We'd know if Saturn had experienced a "90 degree pole shift." It hasn't.
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Re: [+PIN+] ELEnin & Nibiru NEW Report... Holy SH*T READ THIS!!!!Quote (http://204.74.214.194/bbs/reply.php?messageid=1574871&page=30&quote=26041771) [+ (http://javascript%3cb%3e%3c/b%3e:addQuote('reply',%20'26041771');)] # (http://204.74.214.194/forum1/message1574871/reply26041771)

Errrr guys. If the gravitational pull from Nibiru was strong enough to tilt Saturn, those moons would no longet be where they are.
Just thought i'd point that one out.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1407727

Now *THIS* is a small, but very relevant, example of the "agenda" that I and Astronut and others are trying to get across...

...it's called education, logic, and common sense.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1198034

Look budy through the years many famous scientist of there day where persecuted for there theories for thinking out of the box. Are you 100% certain your correct because if you are your the first because no one has firm data on this object.
Quoting: ducati60

Then *you* explain how the gravity of an alleged brown dwarf (or neutron star, that's a nice one) passed by Saturn and did NOT change the orbits of the moons.

Well?
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Think of it... that's a major cosmic feat: Tilting Saturn by 90 degrees without flinging its moons in all directions!

I am in awe.
Parent Post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?33813-Astronomy-tools-for-viewing-the-brown-dwarf--aka-nibiru-aka-planet-x-etc-&p=345463&viewfull=1#post345463)




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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 13th November 2011 04:18 #25 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?34564-Climate-Change-and-Superstorms&p=354533&viewfull=1#post354533)
Re: Climate Change and Superstorms

Neither... nor...

... there's another way of looking at it which is corroborated by empirical data as well as simulations... and that has to do with our solar system being a binary system:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=267243#post267243)
So... Lunisolar or binary... here is what the guys at Binary Research Institute (http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/) have to say:

Layman's explanation: The precession of the equinox is the age-old phenomenon whereby an observer on Earth will notice that after one year (solar, tropical, equinoctial), he will not realign with the exact same point relative to the distant stars. From two to four thousand years ago observers on Earth noticed that the sun on the vernal equinox aligned with the constellation Aries, and in the last few thousand years with Pisces. Now as many know, we are at the "dawning of the age of Aquarius", meaning the sun on the vernal equinox is close to aligning with the constellation of Aquarius. This apparent backward motion of the stars (at the time of the equinox) is the precession of the equinox – whereby the equinoctial point slowly recedes through the 12 constellations of the Zodiac at the present rate of about 1 degree per 71.6 years. If this rate were constant it would take about 25,700 to 25,800 years to complete one full precession of the equinox. However, the annual rate is now speeding up, meaning the calculated length of one full cycle is getting shorter. If the observable of precession is due to an elliptical orbit of our sun around another star, as we believe, then this explains the reason for the variable rate of precession, and also tells us the full cycle will average something different than 25,700 years. All our calculations lead us to believe the period will average about 24,000 years as will be explained in a later section of this website.

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The precession of the equinox is observed as the stars moving across the sky at the rate of about 50 arc seconds per year, relative to the equinox. Conventional theory holds that this phenomenon is due to the gravity of the sun and moon acting upon the oblate spheroid of the earth causing the axis to wobble (the lunisolar theory). The alternative explanation advanced by the Binary Research Institute is that most of the observable is due to solar system motion, causing a reorientation of the earth relative to the fixed stars as the solar system gradually curves through space (the binary theory or model). We find the binary model better explains acceleration of the precession rate, better predicts changes in the rate, answers a number of solar system problems and has none of the paradoxes or inconsistencies associated with lunisolar precession theory.

The Research (http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/index.shtml) section includes a summary of our basic work investigating the mechanics of precession, describes some of the problems with current theory and gives data to show that solar system motion is a better explanation for the observable known as the precession of the equinox. If you move your mouse over the word “Research” you will find this work broken into five further sections entitled: Introduction, Evidence, Calculations, Finding It and Papers and Articles. We invite you to browse.

For a tutorial on our alternate view of precession please begin with the “Introduction” and keep clicking the “Next” button and it will carry you through each section of the presentation.

If you have any comments or questions about this website or any of our work please feel free to email me at:

Walter@BinaryResearchInstitute.org (walter@binaryresearchinstitute.org)

Warm Regards,
Walter Cruttenden


Check this page for an animation on how this works (click on "Forward" to step through):

http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...urvature.shtml (http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/curvature.shtml)

Look at this other animation to get a visual of how each partner of the binary system speed up or slow down in their orbit around the system's center of gravity:

http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...n/theory.shtml (http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/theory.shtml)

... and here to get the idea of how that translates for the observation of distant stars/constellations:

http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...mplicity.shtml (http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/evidence/simplicity.shtml)

As it is known that the Oort cloud has its outside edge nicely "polished" (i.e. the "Sheer Edge"), here is their animation on how that could occur with a binary system:

http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...heeredge.shtml (http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/evidence/sheeredge.shtml)

In short, our solar system (binary stars plus their respective planets) are dancing around the galactic center describing "travelling ovals."



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Bill Ryan (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?6-Bill-Ryan) 16th July 2012 04:07 Link to Post #30 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47342-Military-Gives-Warning-to-Coastal-Dependants&p=522110&viewfull=1#post522110)
Re: Military Gives Warning to Coastal Dependants

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I listened to the first 15 minutes. It's not credible, unless John Moore's source was himself semi-disinformed.


Here's why:



The military would not call Planet X 'Nibiru'.
There's a great deal of evidence that 'Planet X' is real, but is very likely a brown dwarf star currently inbound and somewhere out near the orbit of Jupiter (no closer)... and due to cause effects on Planet Earth maybe round about 2017. Certainly not this year.
In the event of an announcement to the military to evacuate certain coastal areas, more notice would be given with the intention of enabling them to relocate in an orderly manner, with all family and personal possessions. The bugout bag idea with a flag raised at almost the last moment makes zero sense.
If Planet X was close enough to be about to cause a major problem geophysically, it'd already have been spotted by the thousands of independent amateur astronomers all over the world who would by now be screaming from the rooftops.



Something may possibly be about to happen... but it's not Nibiru. My suspicion would go more in the direction of an imminent peak of solar activity... see my thread From Bill Ryan -- the Ultimate Hypothesis (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46887-From-Bill-Ryan-the-Ultimate-Hypothesis).



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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 27th July 2012 at 06:06 #13 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47621-Nibiru-or-Planet-Sized-object-to-pass-Earth-Aug-17-to-Sept-26th-Dr-Deagle-s-show&p=527961&viewfull=1#post527961)
Re: "Nibiru" or Planet-Sized object to pass Earth Aug 17 to Sept 26th - Dr Deagle's s

Posted by Mulder (here) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=525288#post525288)
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He believes this fact is scientifically proven...
[...]

How to get utterly confused in the course of a very short sentence...

If it's a fact, there's no discussion, argument or "belief" possible; it's there staring in your face.

If it's a scientific object, then it remains a hypothesis until said object is discovered and a picture of it can be displayed and therefore it cannot be a "proven" fact till then.

As for the theory and the supporting evidences for the hypothesis of our solar system being a binary star system, from http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/theory.shtml (http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/theory.shtml):




https://fwtinw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p-GVcbSbWldyGBQSPHMm5Gu2c_gQooLDnrX1_hMZrD_nh6r2dp8J qH4VVldBJlwtGscUOsel3d2lyJBIH_FTDPsGJs5eNRHVz/Binary-01.gif?psid=1



Researchers at BRI have noticed a number of problems related to the current theory of precession. While VLBI, laser ranging and other related technologies do a good job at determining the earth’s orientation, the sun’s movement through space has not been coordinated with these findings resulting in unintentional bias of precession inputs. In examining the phenomenon of the precession of the equinox (which was the original impetus for the development of lunisolar precession theory) we have found that a moving solar system model is a simpler way to reproduce the same observable without any of the problems associated with current precession theory. Indeed, elliptical orbit equations have been found to be a better predictor of precession rates than Newcomb's formula, showing far greater accuracy over the last hundred years. Moreover, a moving solar system model appears to solve a number of solar system formation theory problems including the sun's lack of angular momentum. For these reasons, BRI has concluded our sun is most likely part of a long cycle binary system.

A binary system is two stars gravitationally bound orbiting a common center of mass. The stars can be of the same or differing sizes and orbits can be as short as a few days or as long as thousands of years. The short ones are easy to detect, the long ones difficult, some probably impossible to detect because of the very long observation period required.

While there is no obvious visible companion star to our Sun, there could be a dark binary, such as a brown dwarf or possibly a relatively small black hole, either of which might be very difficult to detect, without accurate and lengthy analysis.

There is also the possibility that our sun might be in a binary or complex gravitational relationship with one of several nearby “visible” stars. This scenario may require thinking beyond standard Newtonian dynamics to embrace MOND or MOG or some similar theory (that suggests that the constant of G might be stronger between stellar objects than between planetary objects within the solar system). There could be many types of unknown and unidentified masses that might cause our solar system to curve through space, including the local stellar cluster and even the galactic center to some small degree, each producing some small effect within the total precession observable. Consequently, at this point our work is primarily focused on understanding the precession observable and its nuances as the likely signature of our solar system's angular velocity around some common center of mass. We believe that this approach of analyzing the precession observable (the sun's motion relative to the fixed stars as seen from earth) will provide valuable and helpful data regarding the sun's most likely stellar companion (if one exists).

In summary, beyond direct detection – one way to determine if we are in a binary or multiple star system is to see if the Sun is curving through space. To us on Earth that means we should experience a gradual “changing orientation to inertial space.” Such a phenomenon is observed as the precession of the equinox.

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Bill Ryan (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?6-Bill-Ryan) 5th August 2012 14:55 Link to Post #55 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47342-Military-Gives-Warning-to-Coastal-Dependants&p=533056&viewfull=1#post533056)
Re: Military Gives Warning to Coastal Dependants

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Hi, All:

I'm fully aware of this warning by John Moore a few weeks ago, and as you may have read from the posts above I pretty much dismissed it.

Two days ago (3 August), Moore again appeared on the final hour of Dr Bill Deagle's radio show. The audio is here:

http://archives2012.gcnlive.com/Arch...al/0803123.mp3 (http://archives2012.gcnlive.com/Archives2012/aug12/Nutrimedical/0803123.mp3)

He claimed he was again receiving urgent updates from inside sources -- and that military bases on the east coast were currently being evacuated. The threat was unclear (at least, to me) -- but 'Dr Bill' seemed to think that this was connected with the relatively close fly-by of a massive astronomical object. (This is unconnected with NEO [near earth object] asteroid 2012DA14 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_DA14). This is only 45 meters long, and its own near miss is scheduled for February 2013.)

The only other web references for this are on Godlike Productions -- which I kind of hate to reference here, as it's usually so crazy, unpleasant, and full of anonymously sourced misinformation. But this thread may possibly be useful. Various posters with military connections have stated there that these evacuations were NOT happening... but, on the other hand, one or two others offered evidence which appeared to confirm the story.

http://godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1945704/pg1 (http://godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1945704/pg1)

John Moore's claims are important and, if legitimate, can be verified. You can't hide major military evacuations for long. They'd be visible to the public -- and military family members would soon be leaking the information everywhere. So the truth may become clear in the next week or so.

Even if there's a 1% chance that this is real, I think we need to know a little more. So I'm asking smart Avalon researchers here to see if they can dismiss the story once and for all -- or find some confirmation. I know some people who are very worried about this, and I'd like to prove to them that it's yet one more silly-season story. At the moment, I can't quite do that.

My thanks to all. I look forward to reading what you can dig up.

Hervé
2nd April 2013, 11:01
Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 14th August 2012 at 22:15 Link to Post #7 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48524-NOVA-Magnetic-Pole-Flip-530-000-Years-Overdue-Happening-Now&p=538252&viewfull=1#post538252)
Re: NOVA Magnetic Pole Flip 530,000 Years Overdue & Happening Now?

Now, for other plausible mechanisms on the generation of of magnetic pole inversions:

Lynn Yarris, LBL Research Review / Science Beat Berkeley Lab, Mon, 13 Apr 1987, 11:02 CDT http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/...s-nemesis.html (http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/extinctions-nemesis.html)

"Heavy snows are driven and fall from the world's four corners; the murder frost prevails. The Sun is darkened at noon; it sheds no gladness; devouring tempests bellow and never end. In vain do men await the coming of summer. Thrice winter follows winter over a world which is snow-smitten, frost-fettered, and chained in ice."
"Fimbul Winter" from Norse saga, Twilight of the Gods


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The theorized companion star, through its gravitational pull, unleashes a furious storm of comets in the inner solar system lasting from 100,000 to 2 million years.
Several of these comets strike the Earth.

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[A]ccording to a theory set forth by a Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory (LBL) scientist and his colleagues. The theory postulates that every 26 to 30 million years, life on Earth is severely jeopardized by the arrival of a small companion star to the sun. Dubbed "Nemesis" (after the Greek goddess of retribution), the companion star through its gravitational pull unleashes a furious storm of comets into the inner solar system that lasts anywhere from 100,000 years to two million years. Of the billions of comets sent swarming toward the sun, several strike the Earth, triggering a nightmarish sequence of ecological catastrophes.

"We expect that in a typical comet storm, there would be perhaps 10 impacts spread out over two million years, with intervals averaging 50,000 years between impacts," says LBL astrophysicist Richard Muller. In 1984, Muller, along with UC Berkeley astronomer Marc Davis and Piet Hut, an astronomer with the Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton University, announced the Nemesis theory in Nature magazine. As could be expected, it was and remains controversial. However, although the evidence for the existence of Nemesis is still circumstantial, this evidence continues to mount, and the theory has so far withstood all challenges.

Nemesis was the culmination of a chain of events that began in 1977, in Gubbio, Italy, a tiny village halfway between Rome and Florence. Walter Alvarez, a UC Berkeley geologist, was collecting samples of the limestone rock there for a study on paleomagnetism. The limestone rock outside of Gubbio is a big attraction for geologists and paleontologists because it provides a complete geological record of the end of the Cretaceous period and the beginning of the Tertiary period. This transition took place 65 million years ago, and is of special significance to our species, for it marked the close of the "Age of Reptiles," when dinosaurs ruled the Earth. Sometimes referred to as "the Great Dying," the massive extinction that engulfed the dinosaurs claimed nearly 75 percent of all the species of life on our planet, including most types of plants and many types of microscopic organisms. As much as 95 percent of all living creatures might have perished at the peak of destruction.

Sandwiched between the limestone of the two periods, forming a clear line of demarcation, is a thin maybe one-half-inch thick layer of red clay. Immediately below this clay layer, the Cretaceous limestone is heavily populated with a wide mix of the tiny fossils of marine creatures called forams. Above the clay layer, in the Tertiary limestone, however, the fossils of but a single species of foram can be seen. The clay layer itself contains no foram fossils at all.

When Walter Alvarez brought his samples back to Berkeley, his father, LBL Nobel laureate physicist Luis Alvarez, suggested that subjecting them to neutron activation analysis could help determine how long it took for the clay layer to form. The analysis, performed by LBL nuclear chemists Frank Asaro and Helen Michel, revealed to the surprise of everyone involved that the clay was about 600 times richer in iridium than the surrounding limestone. A silvery-white metal, related to platinum, iridium is quite scarce in the Earth's crust, found usually in concentrations of only 20 parts per trillion. When the Earth was formed, most of the iridium sank into the planet's core, 3,000 miles below the surface, where the concentration of the metal is 10,000 times that in the crust. Other sources of high iridium concentrations are extraterrestrial objects, such as meteorites or comets.

Subsequent samples collected from clay layers found at locations in Denmark and New Zealand, where the geological record of the Cretaceous-Tertiary boundaries are also complete, revealed the same iridium anomaly, plus an abundance of soot. This iridium anomaly has now been identified at more than 75 sites worldwide, by scientists from 11 different laboratories. Iridium is generally found in combination with platinum, gold, and several other elements. Measuring the concentrations of these elements and comparing their ratio to iridium indicated that the widely scattered iridium all came from the same source.

Putting all of the data together, Luis Alvarez concluded that the iridium anomaly was the result of a collision between the Earth and an extraterrestrial object approximately six miles in diameter. He speculated further that it was this collision that led to the death of the dinosaurs and all of the other species that perished during the Great Dying.

When a rock the size of San Francisco, traveling at approximately 45,000 miles per hour, hits the Earth, there is an instantaneous release of approximately 100 million megatons of kinetic energy six billion times the force of the Hiroshima bomb. Luis and Walter Alvarez predicted the effects of such an explosion, based on the aftermath of the volcanic eruption of Krakatoa in 1883, the biggest eruption ever recorded.

If the impact takes place on land, a heavy shroud of fine dust particles from the shattered planetary crust and the pulverized meteorite or comet would be swept high into the stratosphere by the mushrooming fireball, where it would slowly spread, wrapping the entire globe in a dense cocoon. The fireball's blazing heat would ignite enormous wildfires, the soot and debris from which would rise up and add to the sky-blackening dust, creating an extended period of endless night.

Said Walter Alvarez in a report for the American Geophysical Union, "For a few months, it would be so dark you literally could not see your hand in front of your face."

The darkness would shut down the photosynthetic process, killing all but the hardiest of plant species and driving the food chain into a state of collapse. Worldwide starvation would ensue as animals that feed on the plants die and the predators in turn follow. Extremely cold temperatures brought on by the darkness might usher in an ice age. Even if the impact takes place in the ocean, dust (from the crushed ocean floor) would still be shot above the atmosphere, only accompanying the dust would be tremendous volumes of vaporized water. After the dust finally settled, the water vapor would still remain. Solar heat reflected off the Earth's surface would be prevented from escaping into outer space by this thick moisture, and the consequence would be an oppressive greenhouse effect.

"The bitter cold would be followed by a sweltering heat," said Walter Alvarez in his AGU report.

To make matters worse, the energy released by the impact could serve as a catalyst to combine atmospheric nitrogen and oxygen into nitric acid that would fall back on the surface as corrosive precipitation.

Singular event or an event that has recurred


http://www.sott.net/image/image/s5/110927/large/ff.gif (http://www.sott.net/image/image/s5/110927/full/ff.gif)

A plot of data on life extinctions, collected by David Raup and John Sepkoski at the University of Chicago, shows peaks in the extinction rate occurring at 26 to 30 million year intervals, as indicated by arrows.


As originally proposed, the Alvarezes saw the Great Dying and the iridium anomaly as a singular event a fluke in Earth's history.

A second iridium anomaly was discovered in samples taken from sediment that had been deposited on the floors of the Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico about 35 million years ago, when a less severe extinction occurred, but no one proposed a link between the two events. Then, in 1984, came a report from two University of Chicago paleontologists, David Raup and John Sepkoski, who had put together a detailed list of sea life that had become extinct during the past 250 million years. Containing more than 3,500 different species, it was the most complete extinction list ever compiled. When they subjected their list to computer analysis, Raup and Sepkoski discovered that mass extinctions occur periodically, approximately every 26 to 30 million years.

Scientists immediately scrambled to find an explanation that could account for a persistent, recurring cycle of planet-wide species die-outs. Volcanic eruptions were the most obvious suspects, but volcanoes fail to account for the clay layer, the high soot content and, most significantly, the high iridium concentrations. Casting further doubt on the culpability of volcanoes was the discovery of shock quartz and microtektites along with the iridium and soot in the clay layer samples taken from around the world.

Shock quartz silt-sized grains of quartz, which, under a microscope, show cracks and strains, is formed in the heat and pressure of a powerful explosion. It showed up routinely in rocks brought back from the moon by the lunar astronauts, but on Earth it has been found only in meteorite craters and at nuclear weapon test sites. Microtektites are tiny pieces of glass, believed to be droplets of rock that were melted in the heat of an impact and hurled up beyond the atmosphere where they cooled. Upon reentry, the droplets were reheated. The heating-cooling-reheating sequence gave the microtektites in the clay layer a unique spherule shape. Violent volcanic eruptions, such as took place on Mt. St. Helens, Washington, in 1980, can produce glassy material, but always in angular shapes because the melted rock is never ejected beyond the atmosphere. The quiet eruptions of the gentle basaltic volcanoes, prominent in Hawaii, will cough up spherule-shaped glass, called "Pele's tears," but distribute the material only in the immediate vicinity.

Ruling out other terrestrial causes, many scientists turned to the heavens. One possibility was meteorites, which are chips of asteroids or planets moving randomly through space. However, a mechanism to explain the periodicity of the extinctions has yet to be found. A second possibility was comets, "dirty snowballs" of ice with a rocky center. Looping the solar system, beyond the orbit of Pluto and extending out to more than eight trillion miles, is a vast bracelet of comets known as the "Oort cloud," after its discoverer, Dutch astronomer Jan Oort. The trillions of comets in the Oort cloud generally maintain a slow but steady orbit around the sun. Occasionally, the gravitational field of a passing star will jar some comets loose, but few of these ever reach the inner solar system (Mercury, Venus, Earth, and Mars), as the gravitational pulls of Jupiter and Saturn acting somewhat like giant vacuum cleaners keep this part of the system relatively clean of comets and other space debris.

However, a strong enough gravitational force could dislodge so many comets that, through sheer numbers, the inner solar system's protective cleaning mechanism would be overwhelmed. One of the first possible sources of this gravitational force to be considered was the molecular dust clouds in the central plane of the Milky Way. As the solar system revolves around the center of the galaxy, it bobs up and down, periodically crossing through the star-crowded central plane that is foggy with molecular dust star stuff that never coalesced. One of the many problems with this suggestion is that measurements have shown the molecular dust clouds to be far too thinly dispersed to exert sufficient tidal gravitational force. Also, the bobbing of the sun does not match the times of extinction, in fact, the sun is close to the central plane right now.

Another source of gravitational pull that has been proposed is the existence of a tenth planet in the solar system. Called "Planet X," this planet would be a gas ball as much as five times the size of Earth, occupying a peculiar shifting orbit that is tilted at an angle to the solar plane of the nine known planets. This theory also calls for the existence of an as yet undetected inner disk of the Oort cloud, between the orbits of Neptune and Pluto. Every 26 to 30 million years, the orbit of Planet X would be shifted so that it would scrape the edge of the inner disk, sending a host of comets towards the sun. The major problem with this proposal is that the hypothetical inner disk of the Oort cloud would be unstable and could not remain a disk. Consequently, comets would be shaken loose in a steady shower over the 26 to 30 million year time periods, rather than torn loose in a concentrated storm.


A mechanism to explain the periodicity of the extinctions

The Nemesis theory fulfills all the requirements prescribed by the Raup and Sepkoski mass extinction timetable.

As envisioned by Muller, Davis, and Hut, Nemesis is probably a red dwarf, the most common type of star in the galaxy (three-fourths of all the stars in the Milky Way are believed to be red dwarfs). Less than a third the size of the sun and about one one-thousandth as bright, Nemesis might travel in an elliptical orbit that at its perihelion (closest point) brings it within a half light year of the sun (one light year is about six trillion miles) and into the midst of the Oort Cloud. Right now, Nemesis may be at its aphelion (most distant point), nearly three light years away. The sun's closest known neighbor, Proxima Centauri, is about 4.25 light years distant.

Another group of scientists, led by Daniel Whitmire, an astrophysicist with the University of Southwestern Louisiana, and Al Jackson, of the Computer Science Corporation, announced their own theory of a companion star to the sun in the same issue of Nature as Muller and his colleagues. Although the means of triggering massive extinctions are essentially the same, this second group believes the companion star is invisible: either a brown dwarf, a star so tiny that it never ignited, or a black hole, a shrunken star so dense that its gravity prevents any light from escaping.

"We see no reason to assume the star is invisible," says Muller, "since most of the stars in the sky have never had their distance from us measured. If the companion has a magnitude between 8 and 12, it would be dim enough to have been missed in full sky parallax surveys."

That the sun would have a companion star is by no means farfetched. More than 50 percent of the stars in the galaxy are partners in a binary system. The elliptical orbit of Nemesis would carry it farther away from the sun than the distance separating companions in any known binary system. Some scientists have protested that this orbit is too elliptical to be maintained and that Nemesis would have long since left the system. However, the calculations of Hut show Nemesis' orbit being stable for about a billion years.

Says Muller, "The stability of the orbit is sufficiently long to account for the regularity in the extinctions, but it also implies that the companion star could not have been in this orbit since the formation of the Earth. Since gravitational capture is very improbable, the most likely scenario is that the companion star was once more tightly bound to the sun and its orbit is slowly being dissipated by passing stars."

It is even possible, Muller suggests, that the gravitational shoving of Nemesis out into a more distant orbit coincided with an event referred to by astronomers as "the late great bombardment." Approximately four billion years ago, a celestial version of saturation bombing left the surface of the moon badly scarred with craters, which, because of the absence of atmospheric erosion, can still be seen. Voyager has shown the moons of Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn to be similarly pocked.

The first fossil records on Earth also date back four billion years ago. Mysteriously enough, the division between the Earth's two eons, the Cryptozoic eon ("hidden life") and the Phanerozoic eon ("visible life") is sharply etched. Rather than a gradual appearance of increasingly complex fossils, the records show that the Cryptozoic eon ends with no fossils at all above the microscopic level, then the Phanerozoic eon begins and suddenly a dozen different types of elaborate organisms materialize.


Testing the theory

When Muller told Walter Alvarez about the Nemesis theory, the younger Alvarez saw that one means of testing it would be an examination of impact craters on Earth. If the theory is correct, craters should be clumped together in periodic segments of time corresponding to the times that mass extinctions took place. Unlike on the airless moon, where craters are preserved in near perpetuity, on the Earth, most craters are erased by water and wind erosion, as well as continental drift. However, some do survive, about a hundred of which are known. Examining 13 of the largest, most accurately dated of these craters, spanning the 250 million years of the mass extinctions studied by Raup and Sepkoski, Muller and Alvarez found the same 26 to 30 million year periodicity.

"Our analysis has proven to be rather robust against changes in the data set," says Muller, "including the addition or elimination of a few craters, or changes in the minimum crater diameter examined."

Recently, Muller and LBL physicist Saul Perlmutter used cosmic ray exposure ages to show that meteorites created by comets fell on Earth in flurries at approximately the dates of the last three major extinctions.

"Exposure to cosmic rays begins when a meteorite is broken out of the parent body that had previously shielded it, usually an asteroid or the planet Mars, and ends when the meteorite lands on Earth," says Muller. "The cosmic ray exposure age of a meteorite can be determined by the amount of certain isotopes, such as neon 21, which are produced at a known rate by energetic cosmic rays hitting the meteorite. This exposure age tells us the time the meteor spent orbiting in the solar system since its creation."

There are two types of meteorites, high-iron and low-iron. The high-iron meteorites (28 percent by weight), called "H chondrites," are formed when material from the iron-rich core of an asteroid or planet is blown out into space by a violent collision with a speeding comet. Low-iron meteorites, or "L chondrites," are formed from surface material tossed out by low-velocity collisions between asteroids. During their periodic flurries, high-iron meteorites fall on Earth in much greater numbers than low-iron meteorites, but in between these periods, the number of high- and low-iron meteorites striking Earth is about the same.

"The distribution of the H chondrite cosmic ray ages provides new evidence confirming the claim of comet storm theory that a large fraction of the impacts on the Earth occur during relatively brief periods," says Muller. "This is the first evidence for comet storms not based on terrestrial effects."

The evidence for Nemesis-triggered periodic comet storms based on cosmic ray exposure ages was drawn primarily from reviews of existing data. "In these days of tight budgets," observes Muller wryly, "the cheapest way to do research is in the library." Another review of existing data, this time by Muller and LBL physicist Donald Morris, uncovered evidence for periodic comet storms in the Earth's magnetic field.

Volcanic rock, as it cools from the lava state, aligns itself with the Earth's magnetic field. In 1906, French physicist Bernard Brunhes discovered volcanic rock magnetized in the opposite direction of today's field. It is now known that the Earth's magnetic field has reversed itself many times throughout the planet's history, and at times has even been switched off. Muller and Morris felt that at least some of these geomagnetic flips were caused by comet impacts, and they developed a model to explain how it happened.

The Earth's magnetic field is generated by slow eddies in its molten nickel-iron core that are the product of the heat flow out of the core, modified by the planet's rotation. When a crashing comet plunges the world into darkness, temperatures on the land drop much faster than those in the sea because water retains heat much longer than soil. According to the model of Muller and Morris, water near the equator evaporates and is redistributed as ice and snow on the polar caps. The result is a sudden (within a few hundred years) drop in the level of the oceans. In accordance with the conservation of angular momentum, the redistribution of mass alters the rotation rate of the Earth's crust and mantle with respect to the liquid core and leads to a disruption of the magnetic field.

"It is the same as when figure skaters go into a spin with their arms extended, then draw their arms in to increase their rotational speed," says Muller. "The Earth's magnetism is so sensitive to the motions of the liquid core that it doesn't take much of a change in rotational rate to affect the field."

Prior to the work of Muller and Morris, Chicago's Raup had examined the frequency of 296 geomagnetic reversals that took place during the last 170 million years and found peaks in the rate of reversals occurring approximately every 30 million years. Deposits of microtektites were also found in volcanic and seabed rocks from times when reversals took place. There was a sudden drop in sea level during the die-out of the dinosaurs, but there is no evidence of a geomagnetic reversal. This does not blemish the model of Muller and Morris, however, for it predicts that magnetic excursions, during which the field is turned off, would result from half of the impacts. Magnetic excursions are difficult to detect in volcanic rock.

"Our model readily explains observed geophysical correlations, and accounts for the behavior of the Earth's magnetic field during a reversal," says Morris. "Although somewhat speculative, it is based on assumptions that are considered plausible by experts in the relevant scientific fields."

A geomagnetic reversal could also take place should the polar caps melt and cause a sudden swelling of the seas. This, too, would alter the rotation of the Earth's crust and mantle with respect to the core and disrupt the dynamo.


The Nemesis scenario

When Luis and Walter Alvarez first presented their idea that the impact of an extraterrestrial object sparked the death of the dinosaurs, many paleontologists were quick to protest that the extinction of the dinosaurs did not transpire within a year or two, but was a gradual decline that dragged on for several hundred thousand years. Nemesis-launched comet storms reconcile this apparent contradiction.

"We would not necessarily expect all species to die out simultaneously during a storm," says Muller. "Some species would be destroyed by an early impact, while others make it through, only to be killed by a later and larger impact."

Under the Nemesis scenario, what at first glance might appear to be a single, gradual extinction, would, upon closer scrutiny, turn out to be a series of individual, abrupt, mass die-outs. This picture fits closely with the new school of evolutionary thought, coined "punctuated equilibrium" by Harvard paleontologists Steven Jay Gould and Niles Eldredge. In contrast to Charles Darwin's view of evolution being a steady process of smooth transitions to ever higher forms of life, what fossil records actually show are long stretches of inactivity, then a sudden jump over a few hundred generations.

"It is as if evolution has its own kind of death, giving new species a chance," says Muller. "The species-versus-species competition that Darwin proclaimed appears to take place only during the relatively quiet periods between comet storms. Every 26 million years or so, instead of survival of the fittest, we may be looking at survival of the first, where the species that fills an open ecological niche first has the advantage. Without this catastrophe mechanism, Earth might still be a world ruled by trilobites."

The extinction of the dinosaurs is the best illustration of the effect a Nemesis companion star could have on our planet's history. For years, school children were taught that the dinosaurs died out because they were cold-blooded clods, too big, too bulky, too slow, and too stupid to adapt to changing environmental conditions and competition from swift, small, clever, egg-eating mammals. This orthodoxy conveniently overlooked the fact that dinosaurs co-existed and ruled over mammals for more than 100 million years, 400 times longer than the reign of Homo sapiens. At the height of their glory, during the Cretaceous period, the menagerie of different dinosaurs filled nearly every ecological niche. When they were toppled, the ecological slate was wiped clean and mammals rapidly diversified to refill it.

"Why are we here?" Steven Jay Gould has asked. "Because the dinosaurs disappeared, not because the mammals out-competed them."


Search for Nemesis

For now, Nemesis is a tantalizing specter. The case for the companion star is perhaps solid enough to score a victory in a court of law, but in the court of science, the ultimate proof will be in the finding. Joining Muller in the search for Nemesis at LBL are Perlmutter and physicists Carl Pennypacker, Frank Crawford, and Roger Williams. Using the computer-controlled 30-inch reflecting telescope at Leuschner Observatory, in Lafayette, Calif., the scientists are in the process of photographing 5,000 red stars in the northern hemisphere and measuring the parallax of each the shift in its apparent position as the Earth rotates around the sun. The telescope has been programmed to photograph each candidate, wait two to six months, then photograph each star a second time. The two positions can then be compared. A star far away will show little if any change in position, but a star close enough to be Nemesis will have moved perceptibly.

So far, the Nemesis search has eliminated 41 stars. Says Perlmutter, "The system was difficult to start, but we've got it down now and could soon have the data on 3,000 more stars." It is Muller's suspicion that Nemesis might well be hiding in a constellation in the southern hemisphere called Hydra, simply because," he muses, "It's the biggest."

Terrestrial-based testing of the Nemesis theory also continues. The presence of an iridium anomaly in craters that correspond to mass extinctions, and in volcanic rocks and sea beds that correspond to geomagnetic reversals would be a strong supporting argument for the occurrence of comet storms. Sediment samples are now being collected from far-flung locales and send to LBL's Asaro and Michel for analysis. The analysis process should go much faster than ever before with the use of a new detection device called the "Iridium Coincidence Spectrometer." Conceived by Luis Alvarez and designed by Asaro, the ICS should do in three years what previous equipment would have taken more than 100 years to do. Asaro and Michel expect to be able to analyze 6,000 samples a year.

Humanity has never had to face the megablast of even one major comet impact. Perhaps the most important aspect of the Nemesis theory, and the one for which we as a species can be most grateful, is that the deadly little companion star is not due to return until the year 15 million A.D.


Additional Information:



Berkeley scientists report first evidence that dinosaur extinction caused by meteorite impact (http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/dinosaur-extinction.html)
Techniques for investigating a 65-million-year-old mass extinction (http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/fingerprinting-past.html)
The fruitful, inventive mind of Luis Alvarez (http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/luis-alvarez-iridium.html)



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With all these plausible theories, I still haven't found which one these "elites" have data on which we don't have. Unless they are all overwhelmed by unconscious memories of catastrophes from their past.



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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 16th August 2012 at 20:22 Link to Post #9 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48524-NOVA-Magnetic-Pole-Flip-530-000-Years-Overdue-Happening-Now&p=539465&viewfull=1#post539465)
Re: NOVA Magnetic Pole Flip 530,000 Years Overdue & Happening Now?

Reposting here from another thread since it belongs here as well:

I think that too many cyclical events are being correlated to ONE companion star to our sun and inferred to be a dwarf star named "Nemesis."

One type of cyclical events is illustrated with this "clock":


http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/images5/raup-sepkoski-plot.gif

A PLOT OF DATA ON LIFE EXTINCTIONS, COLLECTED BY DAVID RAUP AND JOHN SEPKOSKI AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO, SHOWS PEAKS IN THE EXTINCTION RATE OCCURRING AT 26- TO 30-MILLION-YEAR INTERVALS, AS INDICATED BY ARROWS

The above from: http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/extinctions-nemesis.html (http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/extinctions-nemesis.html)

Check this java applet to get an idea on the long-period orbit of such a "companion":

http://astro.ph.unimelb.edu.au/central/Mirrors/binary/binary.htm (http://astro.ph.unimelb.edu.au/central/Mirrors/binary/binary.htm)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_star#Center_of_mass_animations (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_star#Center_of_mass_animations)

The other is given by the 26,000 24,000 year cycle of the precession of the equinoxes:


https://fwtinw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p-GVcbSbWldyGBQSPHMm5Gu2c_gQooLDnrX1_hMZrD_nh6r2dp8J qH4VVldBJlwtGscUOsel3d2lyJBIH_FTDPsGJs5eNRHVz/Binary-01.gif?psid=1

http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/theory.shtml (http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/theory.shtml)

Due to the existence of both type of "clocks", and accordingly, that makes our solar system a TERNARY star system with one star called "Sun" and TWO companion stars BOTH named NEMESIS.

There lies the confusion!

Wasn't it Arthur Neuman who said something like: "The real trouble is that everything is happening at the same time!"?
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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 16th August 2012 at 20:26 Link to Post #10 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48524-NOVA-Magnetic-Pole-Flip-530-000-Years-Overdue-Happening-Now&p=539466&viewfull=1#post539466)
Re: NOVA Magnetic Pole Flip 530,000 Years Overdue & Happening Now?

Now that the main "clocks" are disentangled, reposting from that same other thread:


Keeping with the train of thoughts of some of the magnetic reversals being due to falling skies on people's heads... here is the illustration suggested by the Binary Research Institute (http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/evidence/sheeredge.shtml)for the existence of the Oort cloud Sheer Edge:



https://fwtinw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pbOeTgzrNa9sADbYgZAy3z11fT69WySfDNJf42APzQ18uIC9 4BUr-vR5E2cZisY3m5R-8hhCXNzszwOKKaGdpYuA_4yCwt9F0/Sheer%20edge-02.gif?psid=1

Now, that's quite a pool (billiards) game!


That particular 26,000 24,000 year clock would have it's "midnight" every time this solar system gets bombarded with these asteroids.

It therefore seems like the "elite" have gotten a pretty good idea on when that "midnight occurs, earth-time wise.

This is also the scenario promulgated by Laura Knight-Jadczyk and the "Cs."

Thinking of it though, it doesn't really matter where one goes in hiding within this solar system when all of it is going to be pummeled like Dresden during WW II... unless their secret space program is really about getting out of this solar system for a while...
Parent Post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48524-NOVA-Magnetic-Pole-Flip-530-000-Years-Overdue-Happening-Now&p=537585&viewfull=1#post537585)
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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 9th October 2012 at 05:31 Link to Post #20888 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=566412&viewfull=1#post566412)
Re: Here and Now...What's Happening?

Cool graphics!

Re:
Sun's motion:
The "picture gets even more complicated when considering this solar system as a binary system:



https://fwtinw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p-GVcbSbWldyGBQSPHMm5Gu2c_gQooLDnrX1_hMZrD_nh6r2dp8J qH4VVldBJlwtGscUOsel3d2lyJBIH_FTDPsGJs5eNRHVz/Binary-01.gif?psid=1


The above would explain why the sun keeps bopping above and below the galactic ecliptic with a slanted binary orbit with respect to that galactic plane; only the barycenter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barycenter) of that binary system follows along the galactic plane.

Along with that binary hypothesis comes the origin for these legendary asteroids/meteorites pummeling of this solar system:



https://fwtinw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pbOeTgzrNa9sADbYgZAy3z11fT69WySfDNJf42APzQ18uIC9 4BUr-vR5E2cZisY3m5R-8hhCXNzszwOKKaGdpYuA_4yCwt9F0/Sheer%20edge-02.gif?psid=1


However, from the recorded periodicities of these meteorite/asteroid downpours, it is suspected that this solar system may in fact be part of a ternary system due to two distinct periodic occurrences... headache anyone?

Ooops... forgot... hello all!

Hervé
2nd April 2013, 11:22
Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 10th October 2012 at 17:34 Link to Post #20980 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=567095&viewfull=1#post567095)
Re: Here and Now...What's Happening?

OK... here is my attempt at clarifying the matter of the known facts about these cycles of asteroids/meteorites pummelings:

I think that too many cyclical events are being correlated to ONE companion star to our sun and inferred to be a dwarf star named "Nemesis."

One type of cyclical events is illustrated with this "clock":



http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/images5/raup-sepkoski-plot.gif

A PLOT OF DATA ON LIFE EXTINCTIONS, COLLECTED BY DAVID RAUP AND JOHN SEPKOSKI AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO, SHOWS PEAKS IN THE EXTINCTION RATE OCCURRING AT 26- TO 30-MILLION-YEAR INTERVALS, AS INDICATED BY ARROWS

The above from: http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/extinctions-nemesis.html (http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/extinctions-nemesis.html)

Check this java applet to get an idea on the long-period orbit of such a "companion":

http://astro.ph.unimelb.edu.au/central/Mirrors/binary/binary.htm (http://astro.ph.unimelb.edu.au/central/Mirrors/binary/binary.htm)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_star#Center_of_mass_animations (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_star#Center_of_mass_animations)

The other is given by the 26,000 24,000 year cycle of the precession of the equinoxes:

http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/theory.shtml (http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/theory.shtml)




https://qy9cnq.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p-GVcbSbWldyGBQSPHMm5Gu2c_gQooLDnrX1_hMZrD_moxX1AG7w pWt3XxuM0AvpAN0Xz7igmIuaz7o3orMkxMGLbMuJXbtKx/Binary-01.gif?psid=1



Due to the existence of both type of "clocks", and accordingly, that makes our solar system a TERNARY star system with one star called "Sun" and TWO companion stars BOTH named NEMESIS.

There lies the confusion!

Wasn't it Arthur Neuman who said something like: "The real trouble is that everything is happening at the same time!"?


Now that the main "clocks" are disentangled:

Keeping with the train of thoughts of some of the magnetic reversals being due to falling skies on people's heads... here is the illustration suggested by the Binary Research Institute (http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/evidence/sheeredge.shtml) for the existence of the Oort cloud Sheer Edge:



https://qy9cnq.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pbOeTgzrNa9sADbYgZAy3z11fT69WySfDNJf42APzQ18RGsy bEZ1E7k2bpnSq4Im4dVQRFjWVkkN8ymGnXRhVg04hsPda5pqV/Sheer%20edge-02.gif?psid=1


Now, that's quite a pool (billiards) game!




That particular 26,000 year clock would have its "midnight" every time this solar system gets bombarded with these asteroids.

It therefore seems like the "elite" have gotten a pretty good idea on when that "midnight occurs, earth-time wise.

This is also the scenario promulgated by Laura Knight-Jadzcyk and the "Cs."

Thinking of it though, it doesn't really matter where one goes in hiding within this solar system when all of it is going to be pummeled like Dresden during WW II... unless their secret space program is really about getting out of this solar system for a while...

Now... on the other hand, every time one of these cycle completes, there are LESS and LESS of these asteroids/meteorites left as potential projectiles against this solar system ... which make it easier to focus and deflect the remaining ones!




To corroborate with the Dogon cosmology there are these other interesting recorded cycles about Sirius:


From: http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/srg/SiriusResearch.shtml (http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/srg/SiriusResearch.shtml)


Mr. Homann concludes below that:
"These observations clearly indicate that the so-called 'precession of the earth' is NOT a scientific fact, and that the Sirius system has a noticeable gravitational influence on our solar system."

INTERPRETATION OF THE DATA:
Significant time deviations in earth's period of rotation, as measured with respect to Sirius have occurred over certain months (e.g. in the spring of 1989, when Sirius A, Sirius B and the sun were in direct conjunction). Some minor, but nevertheless distinct deviations appear at regular yearly intervals (usually around March). Since these deviations occur annually, the gravitational influence of the moon or perturbations caused by other planets in the solar system can be excluded. Since such deviations from mean sidereal time CANNOT be caused by an increase or decrease in the speed of earth's rotation, I suspect a combined 'gravitational' effect of the sun and the Sirius system on the earth's axis of rotation. In my article "Some more thoughts on gravitation" I have tried to describe how the Sirius system might be responsible for a 'curvature in space' that can reach as far as to our solar system. As we know, the revolution of Sirius B and Sirius A around their common center of gravity over a period of about 49 years proceeds in an almost vertical plane relative to the planetary plane of our solar system. This motion could cause a periodic fluctuation in the curvature of space, similar to an ocean where a calm wind would create long-stretched waves. If a ship were to sail on such waves, its mast will gently swing back and forth. Likewise, during the earth's orbit around the sun the axis of the earth would 'oscillate' due to these periodic fluctuations of the space-curvature between sun and Sirius. Although the speed of earth's rotation remains unchanged (!), a positive or negative time-deviation from mean sidereal time can be measured, depending on the magnitude and direction of the oscillation of the axis, the sidereal point of reference and the latitude on earth from which the measurements are taken. As a matter of fact, the International Earth Rotation Service observes significant daily variations in earth's sidereal rotation period.

It is also very important to remember that despite some major variations in earth's period of rotation, the mean time interval of the sidereal year or earth's complete orbit period basically remains constant.

Even more surprising is the observation that the mean time interval of the sidereal year, as measured with respect to Sirius is nearly identical (by less than one second) to the time interval of the tropical year. According to the theory of 'precession', a yearly time difference of about 1223 s is supposed to occur between a sidereal year and the tropical year.

The meridian transit measurements of Sirius have shown that neither a time difference of 6 × 1223 s, nor a difference of 6 × 3.34 s has occurred over the 6-year observation period from April 1994 to April 2000.

These observations clearly indicate that the so-called 'precession of the earth' is NOT a scientific fact, and that the Sirius system has a noticeable gravitational influence on our solar system. Obviously, Newton's laws of gravitation cannot explain Einstein's universe. In that respect, it requires further study to see if the 49 year cycle of the Sirius system can provide us with an explanation of the large fluctuations and annual irregularities in earth's rate of rotation that have also been observed around 1941 by experts at the US Naval Observatory.

Additional Comment:
Two other phenomena should be mentioned that took place during the conjunction of Sirius A, Sirius B and the sun around the beginning of February to the end of March 1989, as the function of the time deviation entered from the negative into the positive range (see Graph 1). During this time our outermost planet Pluto, whose revolution period of 248.421 years is exactly 5.0004 to 1 in relation to the Sirius B - Sirius A's orbit period of 49.68 years, went through the perihelion of its very eccentric orbit. On 23 March 1989 an 800 m long 'rock' came in strikingly close proximity to our earth at a speed of about 70.000 km/h. Missing our earth by only a few hours - thereby sparing us a gigantic catastrophe - it also went through its perihelion between sun and Sirius. Thanks to astronomers, who discovered it as it already disappeared again into the vastness of space, a major widespread panic was avoided. These celestial phenomena are not subject to plain coincidence, but are lawful celestial mechanical events. In fact, the Sirius system determines the second (empty) focus point, which is essential for the elliptic orbits of these and other celestial bodies in our solar system. Keep in mind that even our earth has its perihelion around January 2, as it passes through the conjunction of sun and Sirius each year

According to how records have been deciphered, Ancient Egyptians were VERY obsessed with Sirius. That was their chronometer/clock.




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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 10th October 2012 at 23:39 Link to Post #21019 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=567280&viewfull=1#post567280)
Re: Here and Now...What's Happening?

Last bits of data regarding these meteorites/asteroids periodically visiting this solar system:

Little bits of iron in favor of the meteorite hypothesis:

http://alaskareport.com/news28/ned71...moth_tusks.htm (http://alaskareport.com/news28/ned71119_mammoth_tusks.htm)

March 5, 2008
The mystery of mammoth tusks with iron fillings
By Ned Rozell

A giant meteor may have exploded over Alaska thousands of years ago, shooting out metal fragments like buckshot, some of which embedded in the tusks of woolly mammoths and the horns of bison.

Simultaneously, a large chunk of the meteor hit Alaska south of Allakaket, sending up a dust cloud that blacked out the sun over the entire state and surrounding areas, killing most of the life in the area.


http://alaskareport.com/images31/mammoth_tusks.jpg

Embedded iron particles surrounded by carbonized rings in the outer layer of a mammoth tusk from Alaska. Inset photo shows how an object ripped through the tusk. Image courtesy Richard Firestone.

Such is the scenario envisioned by Rick Firestone, a staff scientist at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in California. Firestone and his colleagues have found mammoth tusks and a bison skull with nickel-rich iron particles in them on one side, suggesting the metal fragments all came from the same direction.

Firestone's theory emerged when his colleague, Alan West of Dewey, Arizona, saw at a Phoenix gem and mineral show a mammoth tusk peppered with tiny bits of metal. Intrigued, West and Firestone looked at tusks owned by the same dealer in Calgary. By passing a magnet over mammoth tusks in Calgary, Firestone and West found seven mammoth tusks collected somewhere near the Yukon River and a bison skull from Siberia that had tiny iron fragments burned into them. The fragments also contained nickel.

"One in 1,000 tusks had this material in it," Firestone said.

See this post for further discusiion: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post500017 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45635-Excavating-The-Empty-Tomb-The-Gospels-based-on-Homer-s-Odyssey&p=500017&viewfull=1#post500017)

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Then, this last one that occurred 12,000 -- and change -- years ago:

Meteorite storm 'smashed the Earth 12,000 years ago and killed off a prehistoric people'
By Daily Mail Reporter (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2158054/Scientists-discover-evidence-meteorite-storm-hit-Earth-13-000-years-ago-killed-prehistoric-civilisation.html) PUBLISHED:09:49 GMT, 12 June 2012 | UPDATED:15:01 GMT, 12 June 2012



Scientists find 'melt-glass' in 12,000-year-old rock
Melt glass forms at 1,700 degrees - equal to atomic bomb
Meteorites thought to have triggered a cold snap that killed off early civilisation and giant animals



Scientists have found compelling evidence that a meteorite storm hit the earth more than 12,000 years ago, and is likely to have been responsible for the extinction of a prehistoric people and giant animals including mammoths.Evidence of the meteorite’s intense heat was found on two continents. The researchers believe the huge cosmic impact triggered a vicious cold snap, which caused widespread destruction.

The international team found a substance known as melt glass, which forms at temperatures of 1,7000 to 2,200 degrees Celcius and can result from a ‘cosmic body’ hitting the earth.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/06/12/article-2158054-13917645000005DC-733_642x219.jpg

Extreme heat: The meteorite impact caused the 13,000-year-old quartz found in Syria to melt and boil, creating features including burst bubbles and flow textures

The material was found in a thin layer of rock in Pennsylvania and South Carolina in the US, along with Syria. Tests confirmed the material was not of cosmic, volcanic or human-made origin.

More... 'Mega meteor that crashed off Indian coast' may have wiped out dinosaurs (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1221388/Indian-mega-meteor-wiped-dinosaurs.html)

‘The extreme temperatures required are equal to those of an atomic bomb blast, high enough to make sand melt and boil,’ said James Kennett, professor of earth science at UC Santa Barbara.

The melt-glass appears identical to other material found in Meteor Crater in Arizona, and the Australasian tektite field, and also matches melt-glass produced by the 1945 Trinity nuclear airburst in New Mexico in the US, Professor Kennett said.

The team's findings support the controversial theory that an asteroid impact occurred 12,900 years ago and triggered the start of an unusual cold period on Earth, leading to widespread extinction of human and animal life.

In the cold period, known as the Younger Dryas, North American megafauna including mammoths and giant ground sloths disappeared forever, along with a prehistoric civilisation called the Clovis culture.

The Clovis people used distinctive bone and ivory tools and are regarded as the first human inhabitants of the New World.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/06/12/article-2158054-13917641000005DC-497_640x221.jpg

Match: Melt glass, known as trinitite, formed during the Trinity nuclear airburst in New Mexico in 1945 when rocks melted. The scientists say the melt-glass is similar to that found in the 12,800-year-old rock


Evidence supporting the theory has now been found on three continents, covering nearly one-third of the planet, from California to Western Europe, and into the Middle East.

Syria is the easternmost site yet identified in the northern hemisphere, but the researchers have yet to find a limit to debris field of the impact. Melt-glass has been found in rock layers of the same age in Arizona and Venezuela.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/06/12/article-2158054-1392D3A2000005DC-114_640x545.jpg

Scientists found the melt glass - evidence of the meteorite's intense heat - in Pennsylvania and South Carolina in the US along with Syria

The three sites found in the latest study were separated by 1,000 to 10,000 kilometers, suggesting that ‘a swarm of cosmic objects,’ either fragments of a meteorite or comet, had hit the earth, Professor Kennett said.

Professor Kennett added that the archaeological site in Syria where the melt-glass material was found –– Abu Hureyra, in the Euphrates Valley –– is one of the few sites of its kind that record the transition from nomadic hunter-gatherers to farmer-hunters who live in permanent villages.

‘Archeologists and anthropologists consider this area the “birthplace of agriculture,” which occurred close to 12,900 years ago,’ Professor Kennett said.

‘The presence of a thick charcoal layer in the ancient village in Syria indicates a major fire associated with the melt-glass and impact spherules 12,900 years ago,’ he continued.

‘Evidence suggests that the effects on that settlement and its inhabitants would have been severe.’

The study was published today in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2158054/Scientists-discover-evidence-meteorite-storm-hit-Earth-13-000-years-ago-killed-prehistoric-civilisation.html

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Now, if the return period of these bolides corresponds to the binary or ternary period of this solar system, the first one wouldn't occur till some 15 million years from now and, the second one, not until another 12,000 years from now...



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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 11th December 2012 at 10:11 Link to Post #2723 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3596-Up-At-The-Ranch--James-Gilliland-and-Trout-Lake-&p=596596&viewfull=1#post596596)

Re: Up At The Ranch (James Gilliland and Trout Lake)
Posted by Paul (here) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=596589#post596589)
[...]
Ah - but we're not crossing the galactic plane. We last passed through the galactic plane about 3 million years ago, and won't cross it again for another 30 million years . The solar system is now about 75 to 100 light years above the galactic plane.
[...]

Then, I would like to see the data for that because, accordingly, the crossing of the equatorial galactic plane around C.E. 1998 is pure fiction.

Because, from what I managed to reconstruct from the data I collected is that our solar system bops up and down about the equatorial galactic plane every 12,000+ years (see calz diagram above) while dancing in a spiral with its binary twin around the galactic center.

See one of my recent post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52761-what-if-the-whole-2012-things-are-not--real--and-just-a-mere-wishful-thinking&p=596519&viewfull=1#post596519), where observations about Sirius indicate that it is not the earth that wobbles to generate the precession of the Equinoxes but, rather, the circling of our sun around the center of gravity of its dance with its twin in a binary system. That same dance that would get both stars bopping above and below that galactic equatorial plane.



https://qy9cnq.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p-GVcbSbWldyGBQSPHMm5Gu2c_gQooLDnrX1_hMZrD_moxX1AG7w pWt3XxuM0AvpAN0Xz7igmIuaz7o3orMkxMGLbMuJXbtKx/Binary-01.gif?psid=1

Hervé
2nd April 2013, 11:45
Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 11th December 2012 at 19:58 Link to Post #2730 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3596-Up-At-The-Ranch--James-Gilliland-and-Trout-Lake-&p=596874&viewfull=1#post596874)
Re: Up At The Ranch (James Gilliland and Trout Lake)

Posted by Calz (here) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=596600#post596600)
Either Paul is on to something or else he is colluding with the debunkers
[...]
http://www.2012hoax.org/galactic-equator-vs-plane (http://www.2012hoax.org/galactic-equator-vs-plane)
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http://www.2012hoax.org/galactic-plane (http://www.2012hoax.org/galactic-plane)
[...]

Posted by Paul (here) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=596620#post596620)
[...]
See Will Earth cross the galactic equator in 2012? (http://earthsky.org/astronomy-essentials/will-earth-pass-through-galactic-plane-in-2012.) and Will our solar system cross the galactic plane on December 21, 2012? (http://earthsky.org/human-world/will-our-solar-system-cross-the-galactic-plane-on-december-21-2012) for a source for my claims the earth last passed above the galactic plane 3 million years ago, will pass it again in another 30 million years, and is now 75 to 100 light years above it.
[...]

Thanks guys!

Confusion sorted out and demonstrating I wasn't hallucinating:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=538889#post538889)
I think that too many cyclical events are being correlated to ONE companion star to our sun and inferred to be a dwarf star named "Nemesis."

One type of cyclical events is illustrated with this "clock":


http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/images5/raup-sepkoski-plot.gif

A PLOT OF DATA ON LIFE EXTINCTIONS, COLLECTED BY DAVID RAUP AND JOHN SEPKOSKI AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO, SHOWS PEAKS IN THE EXTINCTION RATE OCCURRING AT 26- TO 30-MILLION-YEAR INTERVALS, AS INDICATED BY ARROWS

The above from: http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/extinctions-nemesis.html (http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/extinctions-nemesis.html)

Check this java applet to get an idea on the long-period orbit of such a "companion":

http://astro.ph.unimelb.edu.au/central/Mirrors/binary/binary.htm (http://astro.ph.unimelb.edu.au/central/Mirrors/binary/binary.htm)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_star#Center_of_mass_animations (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_star#Center_of_mass_animations)


The other is given by the 26,000 24,000 year cycle of the precession of the equinoxes:

http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/theory.shtml (http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/theory.shtml)



https://qy9cnq.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p-GVcbSbWldyGBQSPHMm5Gu2c_gQooLDnrX1_hMZrD_moxX1AG7w pWt3XxuM0AvpAN0Xz7igmIuaz7o3orMkxMGLbMuJXbtKx/Binary-01.gif?psid=1

Due to the existence of both type of "clocks", and accordingly, that makes our solar system a TERNARY star system with one star called "Sun" and TWO companion stars BOTH named NEMESIS.

There lies the confusion!

Wasn't it Arthur Neuman who said something like: "The real trouble is that everything is happening at the same time!"?

Now I know what both "clocks" relate to!

One is the elusive companion star of the solar system binary twin and the other to the mass of the galactic disk itself. Both called "Nemesis."



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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 19th February 2013 at 12:58 Link to Post #7 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55996-Mini-Solar-System-Entering-Our-Own-Breaking-News-from-Prof.-James-McCanney&p=637924&viewfull=1#post637924)
Re: "Mini Solar System Entering Our Own" Breaking News from Prof. James McCanney

First of all, this James McCanney's monologue is a couple of years old according to the comments below the video on YouTube.

Second, the only plausible hypothesis for a "mini solar system" is the one about our solar system being part of a binary star system and, by definition, the twin "solar system" cannot enter our solar system but both stars keep dancing around each other while circling the galaxy.

That said, since NASA seems to be way out of the loop from black ops and the break-away "civilization," it cannot help but being made to consistently lie about most anything, in short, NASA is as ignorant as we are and the only data they can rely on are their own, under the airbrushing of they released pictures.

McCanney's "mini solar system" hasn't, at yet, shown up on any "radar" nor amateur astronomers' telescope, not for a lack of looking for it since the 50s.

However, there definitely is an increase in witnessed fireballs across earth's skies as well as meteoritic sonic booms all over the place (see http://www.sott.net/category/17-Fire-in-the-Sky (http://www.sott.net/category/17-Fire-in-the-Sky))... salvos hurled into space eons ago that we keep running into every now and then and, with every return, the probability of being hit with a "big one" diminishes.



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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 21st February 2013 at 16:52 Link to Post #30 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55868-Brown-Dwarf-Star-Flyby-estimated-maximal-Earth-impact-date-of-June-July-2013&p=638927&viewfull=1#post638927)
Re: Brown Dwarf Star Flyby estimated maximal Earth impact date of June-July 2013

And another repost from another thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55996-Mini-Solar-System-Entering-Our-Own-Breaking-News-from-Prof.-James-McCanney&p=638041&viewfull=1#post638041):

Posted by Amzer Zo (here) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=637924#post637924)
Second, the only plausible hypothesis for a "mini solar system" is the one about our solar system being part of a binary star system and, by definition, the twin "solar system" cannot enter our solar system but both stars keep dancing around each other while circling the galaxy.

Posted by Operator (here) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=638000#post638000)
Ok, I am no expert so just a few serious questions out of curiosity:

1. In a binary system both stars are always beyond the orbit of each outer most planets?
2. If 1 is true then would it be possible that orbits of (outer most) planets could intermingle?
3. Is there definite proof of how the asteroid belt came to be?

Well, what I gathered out of the Binary Research Institute (http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/), is that -- from a mechanical point of view, not the "electrical Universe" one -- these objects are dislodged from the Oort Cloud:


https://fwtinw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pbOeTgzrNa9sADbYgZAy3z11fT69WySfDNJf42APzQ18uIC9 4BUr-vR5E2cZisY3m5R-8hhCXNzszwOKKaGdpYuA_4yCwt9F0/Sheer%20edge-02.gif?psid=1

The period of cycling around each other being fine tuned around 24,000 years when taking into account acceleration (speeding up) and deceleration (slowing down) of both stars on their orbit around each other. With such a period/frequency for these "returns," anything that was too close to each other at the beginning of the solar system formation would, by now, be settled into a stable geometry around their respective sun at each passing/"return."

So, that's a definite "YES" for the question.

As for question #2, from a mechanical point of view and not an "Electrical Universe" one, considering the period/frequency/return of 24,000 years over a time scale of billions of years, I would think that anything that could get smashed to smithereens, was; and that, now, any outer objects are somehow in a stable geometry around their respective sun as well as with each other.

However, that may not be true for the Oort Cloud objects which still may get dislodged with each passing as pictured above. This then support the double whammy envisioned by Laura Knight-Jadczyk of "waves" of old dislodged objects in long orbits added to the newly ejected ones.

On question #3, none that I know of, the debate mostly being between a "man-made" catastrophe and the destabilization of the gravitic standing wave (see Stan Deyo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsagEYfxPgs)) for that particular orbit. If that asteroid belt were formed due to a smashing of a celestial bolide into a planet, I would expect the pieces to have flown around in all directions and not constitute an annular belt but some ellipsoid envelops around both the Sun and Jupiter (still from a mechanical point of view, not sure what the picture would be with the Electrical Universe or a David Lapoint inverted magnetic bowls).


As for getting an idea of the complexity of motions around a moving sun orbiting a binary companion while circling the galaxy, check this one out:


zBlAGGzup48

Hope this gives some reference frame to explore the subject further?



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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 27th February 2013 at 17:19 Link to Post #37 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55868-Brown-Dwarf-Star-Flyby-estimated-maximal-Earth-impact-date-of-June-July-2013&p=641867&viewfull=1#post641867)
Re: Brown Dwarf Star Flyby estimated maximal Earth impact date of June-July 2013

Posted by GoodeTXSG (here) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=641791#post641791)
[...]
Earth Is Not Orbiting The Sun
netlethe·164 videos
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Planets DO NOT "orbit" the Sun.
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There is no such thing as "orbit" in Phi Spiraling 3D Space. An orbit means that object A traces a complete circle around a STATIONARY object B on ONE plane. Like a centrifuge.
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There is no "fabric of space."
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Jason Verbelli

Well... these guys are playing with words and definitions.

What make them right with their definitions is that the complete motion of a planet in space around a galaxy is considered. Well, they still use the center of the galaxy as a reference frame.

And that's the key concept: Reference Frame

If one takes the sun as reference frame (making it "stationary") no matter what the sun's motion is around its binary twin and both dancing around a galaxy itself dancing in a choreography of galaxies, then the planets DO ORBIT around the sun even though the actual, compounded motion is an elliptically spiraling elliptical spiral (taking into account the spiraling motion of a binary system circumnavigating the galaxy).

And that's depicted in Nassim's video when the view is perpendicular to the sun's traveling path.



zBlAGGzup48


No planet gets lost in space behind the sun's path, in a trail of lost planets, around the galaxy! Even the asteroid belt and the Oort cloud are kept in synch with sun's motion around the galaxy!

For that to happen, then the planets have to be maintained in ORBIT around the sun, as a nearly independent reference frame, irrespective of their actual motion around the galaxy.

How's that possible?

That's where the Electric Universe and its Electromagnetic wooffs and warps give a very plausible solution to the mechanisms at work:



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The above experiments do demonstrate that THERE IS A FABRIC TO SPACE!

DURHAM, N.H. — After three years of puzzling over a striking “ribbon” of energy and particles discovered by NASA’s Interstellar Boundary Explorer (IBEX) at the edge of our solar system, scientists may be on the verge of cracking the mystery.

In a paper published Feb. 4, 2013, in the Astrophysical Journal, researchers, including lead author Nathan Schwadron of the University of New Hampshire, propose a “retention theory” that for the first time explains all the key observations of this astrophysical enigma.


http://www.sott.net/image/image/s6/130502/full/ibexoutlinering_lg_610x817.jpg

A three-dimensional diagram of the retention region shown as a "life preserver" around our heliosphere bubble along with the original IBEX ribbon image. The interstellar magnetic field lines are shown running from upper left to lower right around the heliosphere, and the area where the field lines "squeeze" the heliosphere corresponds to the ribbon location. The red arrow at the front shows the direction of travel of our solar system. Image credit: Adler Planetarium/IBEX Team.

“If the theory is correct,” Schwadron notes, “the ribbon can be used to tell us how we’re moving through the magnetic fields of the interstellar medium and how those magnetic fields then influence our space environment.”



See this thread: Enigmatic "Ribbon" Of Energy Explained (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55326-Enigmatic-Ribbon-Of-Energy-Explained)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0jHsq36_NTU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0jHsq36_NTU)


This guy's got a good grip on the subject except he is missing why our sun is traveling in an elliptical spiral in a similar fashion as planets do around it... i.e. that the sun is "orbiting" around a twin in a binary system:


C4V-ooITrws


Now, in order to "run into" space debris, said space debris need to go against the grain of our solar system's motion... which is not much possible in an Electric/Plasma Universe because the reins of such motions are held by the entire galaxy the same way those reins are held by our sun(s) in the solar system to keep its planets orbits in good order.


And, for all I know, these comets, asteroids and other celestial projectiles have some kind of orbits pinned to this solar system, whether binary or not; they are not rogue celestial "species" this solar system "runs" into.



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Amzer Zo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4925-Amzer-Zo) 1st April 2013 at 13:37 Link to Post #3 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57604-Niburu-has-returned-to-the-Inner-Orbit-of-our-Solar-System&p=656228&viewfull=1#post656228)
Re: Niburu has returned to the Inner Orbit of our Solar System ???

So...

... is it a planet or is it this solar system's binary twin sun?

Not withstanding that such an enormous body caracoling through this solar system would render any above ground or underground refuges totally useless...


Here is the real disinfo psyop which keeps perpetuating the myth:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=459803#post459803)
My, my, my... here we go again...

Here is from Ken Adachi, a former devoted Zeta sucker (a certain PT Barnum reckoned there's one born every minute... so it's a never ending story):

I had expected Nancy Lieder and Zeta Talk to disappear from the Internet following the 2003 fiasco, but I guess a built up CIA/NASA/military disinformation psyops like Zeta Talk is simply too juicy a scam to just abandon, so they proffer a truly moronic and pathetic 'White Lie (http://zetatalk.com/index/psdate2.htm)' excuse to explain away their prediction failure and just move the date up another eleven years to 2012! So we are treated with another nine years of disinformation nonsense, fear mongering, anxiety promotion, worry promotion, fear of having children born into such a nightmare world, re-locating to remote, bare bones survival locations, etc., etc., for a whole new generation of suckers, rubes, and newbies who will buy into the Zeta Talk lie with the same wide eyed belief that I bought into it between 1995 and 2003, and wind up posting YouTube videos with ingenious sounding explanations of mysterious celestial body movements in the solar system accounting for this or that "HMO" and similar absurdities. .

I've also re-printed the current home page from ZetaTalk further below which includes links to the modified Pole Shift explanation mentioned above and the "White Lie' gambit. Remarkable, Nancy also includes the following statement on her current Zeta Talk (http://zetatalk.com/) home page:

"Note: Where Planet X came into the inner solar system in early 2003, it has not yet passed, though has gone through gyrations while passing the Sun's S Pole and adjusting to the Sun's magnetic field. Some ZetaTalk is best understood in the context of the date written. These topics, below, are organized by date written and should be read in order for a historical perspective. The increase in Earth changes and electromagnetic interference and evidence of Planet X in the inner solar system is palpable. For the very latest ZetaTalk, however, jump to the bottom for news about the current year!"

Here, we witness the lunacy, ridiculousness, and witlessness of Zeta Talk, Nancy Lieder, and her handlers in full flower. She reports that this huge red planet, Nibiru, which she and Zeta Talk said was 4 times larger and 23 times more dense than Earth, had ENTERED the earth's solar system in 2003; yet still had not "passed."

How could a 'planet' 4 times larger than earth enter the earth's solar system in 2003 and not be seen by astronomers?

Full article and antecedents here:

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/zetat...n24mar12.shtml (http://educate-yourself.org/cn/zetatalkrecycleddeception24mar12.shtml)


Neither Nancy Lieder nor her followers have learnt one damn thing from their Hale-Bopp fiasco, Y2K fiasco, 2003 fiasco, 2012 fiasco... so, 2013 is the new target date .

This thread and the PDF it promotes are definite MUST READS: Must Read: The Matrix Deciphered by Dr Robert Duncan (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?56002-Must-Read-The-Matrix-Deciphered-by-Dr-Robert-Duncan) in order to understand a "Nancy Lieder" or the frequent resurrection and perpetuation of "Nibiru/Planet X/Pole Shifts/Doom/Gloom/Catastrophe/Prophecy/Armageddon/End of Time/ELE/Etc..."

As for the unwitting promoters perpetuating the above non-sense... well, one could always ask the many healers on this forum to lend a hand at healing the so-called "common" sense and its application... might prove fruitful?



:fish2:



:bigfish:



Have a wonderful April fools' day!



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Here is an analysis that one might find to be applying to this never ending story of “Nibiru/Planet X” resurrecting from its ashes every now and then and keeping its arrival “sometime soon” every few years:



The disaster of manufactured consent in the Matrix (http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2013/03/15/the-disaster-of-manufactured-consent-in-the-matrix/)
by Jon Rappoport March 15, 2013
www.nomorefakenews.com (http://www.nomorefakenews.com/)

This article may seem to be about abstract theory, but it isn’t. It’s about how populations are viewed by psychological-operations specialists.

More importantly, it’s about how people are led to accept substitutes for their own highest ideals. The substitutes look like the real thing, but they’re actually very well drawn cartoons.

The most successful long-terms psyops are aimed at getting people to accept “good things, wonderful things.” Except, it turns out that these things magically evaporate and leave populations in the lurch.

Imagine for a moment that every crisis we now find ourselves in, every form of pollution and poisoning and every war and every mass destruction of life…was preceded and precipitated by…a psyop that looked like a golden destiny of fulfillment.

Okay. Let’s begin.

At some point, every intelligent human develops their own reality.

This reality isn’t usually a clear, articulated, and overall position. It tends to be a hodge-podge of linked ideas, preferences, feelings, principles, and morals.

Nevertheless, consciously and unconsciously, the person refers to it often, and uses it as a tool with which to navigate through life.

In the Matrix, there is pressure to have people connect their realities to each other. Why? Because groups can thus be created. Groups are easier to compromise than individuals.

We get the concept of hooked ideas. A hooked idea is one which will entice people to merge their realities into One. The hooked idea can be expressed as a slogan, a so-called meme, a principle. It is introduced by people who work psyops.

A psyop is a campaign to herd people into a place where their individual realities overlap.

For the propagandist, there is the eternal search for the good, better, and best hooking idea, the one that will collect the greatest possible number of people under one roof.

This has nothing to do with true progress or honest intent. It has everything to do with control.

Therefore, the actual content and substance and meaning of the hooking idea is irrelevant. A retired propaganda operative once told me, “If I could broadcast a piece of absolute gibberish from one end of the planet to the other, and have it picked up and consented to, I would do it.”

For a psyop specialist, the jackpot is a large group of hooked ideas that, taken together, change the world, and bring a billion or more people’s realities into one overlapping space.

Here is a current ongoing group of such hooked ideas. Before you read them, remember that the aim of such ideas is collecting people under AN IMITATION OF THE REAL THING.

Whatever meaning these hooked ideas have, they are not searching out people to move them into actual individual choices. No, the objective is to rope them under a fake banner that looks real.

“Help others. Help the needy. Raise up the needy. We’re all in this together. Greatest good. Greatest good for the greatest number. Humanity as one. Peace. Let’s all cooperate. The human family…”

This is only a partial list of the group of hooked ideas.

These ideas are transmitted to the global population through every means possible: ads, public service announcements, political speeches, movies, articles, books, the news, television shows of every type, the education system. It’s a blitz, and it doesn’t stop. All the angles are played.

The psyop calculation runs this way: the majority of people who buy in and connect their realities to other people’s realities and achieve overlap—will go passive and accept “the new humane society.” All these people are complete pawns.

The sector of people who buy in and thus share realities, collectively, and then DO something about it…these people will follow a prescribed path. They’ll join the approved groups and campaign for the chosen causes. They’re dupes.

The very small fraction of people who buy into the group of hooked ideas and think of them as genuine and real, and also DO something genuine and real and good about it, will create a manageable amount of disruption to the scheme and the objective—which by the way is a completely collectivist planet. The operative word here is “manageable.”

This same retired propaganda operative, who goes by the pseudonym of Ellis Medavoy (I interview him 28 times in one section of my collection, THE MATRIX REVEALED (http://marketplace.mybigcommerce.com/the-matrix-revealed-vol-1-cd-by-jon-rappoport-mega-info/)), explained this “psyop calculation”:

“The target of a terrific psyop is yearning and longing. That’s what I looked for when I was working: what people long and yearn for. Something unformed and undefined but very powerful. That’s what I wanted to tap into.

“If I could tap into that, people would buy in and surrender a significant part of whatever their personal world looks like. Because they want to believe they’re coming together with like-minded others. They’ll also believe the path laid out for them is correct and proper and wonderful. This is really a fake religion we’re talking about.

“A fake religion. It’s really for children, and most people turn out to be children. Give them a group of high-minded ideas, and they’ll grab on and think everything they’ve done up to that moment is a prelude to THIS.

“We [operatives] are playing a symphony, you see, and once they listen to the prelude, they’re hooked. They stay. They long for the climax, which doesn’t exist; not the way they imagine it. To them it’s all about ‘arrival in the promised land,’ as if that’s some kind of gift that’s wrapped up under the tree, waiting to be opened.

“We give them a fake god, a dead-end god. If they were once burning with authentic faith, we derail that and take them to another place…”

In truth, there is no such thing as the sum of all personal realities. That concept is a delusion that is foisted on people.

As I stated at the beginning of this article, each person has their own reality. It may be a hodge-podge, it may be borrowed to some degree, but it IS the reality of the individual. Each person has the opportunity, if he takes it, to expand that reality and make it more profound, on his own terms.

But once he becomes mesmerized by the notion of overlapping his reality with others, he’s in a whole different pew.

Here is another very important distinction: you and I and others could, for example, decide to start a business. We could cooperate in this new enterprise. We could decide on common objectives. We could be inspired to a tremendous degree. But we are still—each of us—carrying along our individual realities. That’s what gives us our core individual strength. That’s what allows us to contribute to the group.

And we’re aware of what we’re doing. We’re choosing to do it.

That’s quite different from falling under the sway of a psyop. That’s quite different from buying into hooked ideas on a emotional level. That’s quite different from accepting the generalized idea of an emotional and spiritual merger of our personal realities.

In the latter case, what is happening is the supreme irony: people are buying the idea that their freedom actually equals their merging.

It is exactly this “merging” that obsessed technocrats are proposing. They see it in terms of humans and machines “coming together.” (http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2013/02/16/can-you-trust-a-new-brain-with-an-iq-of-7000/) This is their envisioned promised land. The ability to instantly access trillions of pieces of information and do lightning-speed calculation and organize that information in countless ways is their version of personal revelation.

It’s their fake religion.

Humans and machines as One is, if you examine it, the sacrifice of personal reality.
Of course, technocrats don’t see it that way. But that’s what they’re doing.
Information is only one component of personal reality—and they’re blowing that up into a god.

There is a sequence at work here. First, with the development of the computer, people could search and find information. Now, they can have computers anticipate what the desired information is and provide it. Finally, people will be given—quite apart from their desires—the information they require, as adjudicated by experts.

This has less and less to do with personal reality.

Manufactured consent in the Matrix is a bit of a misnomer. Manufactured consent IS the Matrix, at the most profound level.

Whatever a person has as his personal reality is something to build on. You might say it’s the engine by which he can set sail and voyage. And during his personally navigated voyage, he enlarges and changes his personal reality. It becomes more powerful. It becomes more a matter of imagination and a life lived through and by imagination.

In this light, cooperation with others takes on a whole new meaning. The longing and obsession to overlap his reality with that of others fades in importance.

His immunity to hooked ideas becomes stronger.

The very notion of what personal reality is changes. It is no longer simply a fixed configuration set in concrete.

The psyop is aimed at disintegrating the personal voyage.

It is aimed at flattening the emotions and shortening the perspective and short-circuiting the fire in the soul.

Hooked ideas and manufacturing consent and overlapping realities and merging are the tools used to deaden life and invent the collective future.

In that future, each person becomes a mirror that reflects every other person. And it turns out that there is no substance at all in the trillions of rebounding reflections.

The endless overlapping deletes all content.

Personal reality and the personal voyage are the WAKING UP that breaks the trance.

A great deal of history of the human race, littered as it is with suffering and pain and war and hunger, was produced by competing psyops.

Each side was utterly convinced that its ideals were superior. What neither side realized was that everybody, on all sides, was accepting a psyop substitute of their own personal reality. That was the big switch.

Each person on each side had bought into a hooking idea that looked so good and so right and so wonderful.

And each person was operating on a false basis. Each person had, without noticing it, misplaced his own personal reality.

You could accurately write, on many gravestones: “I died for a psyop.”

In this day and age, political leaders have entirely given up the notion of personal reality, if they even understand what it means. For them, it’s all about psyop, because they are thinking about mass and number and population. They are looking for central hooking ideas—the very best they can find—and how to express them and transmit them as convincingly as possible.

The major differences between these leaders are to be found in how well they function as mouthpieces for hooking ideas.

Freedom? Democracy? The will of the people? A better future for all? Equality? Justice? These are merely concepts in search of ways to run psyops.

Jon Rappoport

The author of an explosive collection, THE MATRIX REVEALED (http://marketplace.mybigcommerce.com/the-matrix-revealed-vol-1-cd-by-jon-rappoport-mega-info/), Jon was a candidate for a US Congressional seat in the 29th District of California. Nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, he has worked as an investigative reporter for 30 years, writing articles on politics, medicine, and health for CBS Healthwatch, LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, Stern, and other newspapers and magazines in the US and Europe. Jon has delivered lectures and seminars on global politics, health, logic, and creative power to audiences around the world. You can sign up for his free emails at www.nomorefakenews.com (http://www.nomorefakenews.com/)

Sidney
2nd April 2013, 12:41
so are we going to die or not? LOL

Kidding aside, wow, what a tremendous amount of work to put this together thank you. I am certainly going to spend some time going through the links.

dynamo
2nd April 2013, 14:03
Thanks Amzer Zo for taking the time to compile this info.
Positively fascinating; now to make the time to red and digest it all!

Flash
2nd April 2013, 15:05
very good last post Amer Zo, easy to understand and easy to make the links and thanks you for the overview of it all.

RMorgan
2nd April 2013, 22:05
Hey Amzer,

Great post my friend. We should indeed try to clarify this issue, which very often is misrepresented and misinterpreted here.

Nowadays I can´t stand hearing a word about Planet X or Nibiru, which are, by themselves, highly controversial concepts created by very controversial and questionable persons; Nancy Lieder and Zecharia Sitchin, respectively.

Nancy Lieder, who coined the term Planet X (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibiru_cataclysm) back in 1995 , allegedly received the information from Zeta extraterrestrials and was successively wrong about her claims, being involved in several scandals, like the one in this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CIIc3pY51w), where she admits to have not only killed her own dogs, but to have told her followers to also kill their dogs to "spare" them from a collapse that never happened, back in 2003. She´s a lunatic, plain and simple.

Sitchin´s reputation is also highly questionable; He´s unanimously considered a charlatan among the ancient language scholars community. Independent respected specialists from all over the world claim that his translations of the Sumerian/Akkadian cuneiform tablets are not even close to be accurate. They also claim that the vast majority of information present in his books is fabricated and can´t be found anywhere in the original texts. Some other people claim that Sitchin actually "channeled" most part of his information, which doesn´t give him any more credibility as well. Anyway, there´s a very interesting website (http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/) that not only proves how much Sitchin was wrong, but teaches the reader to look for the information and verify it for himself.

However, I do not disregard the idea the we may live in a binary system at all. It is indeed very possible, but I vehemently disagree with the way people normally treat this subject, recycling already refuted mumbo jumbo and posting fake youtube videos over and over and over again.

This subject must be investigated with seriousness, based on facts, not on unsubstantiated claims made by people with questionable reputations.

I appreciate what you´re doing here. Lets stop feeding the lies and start focusing on solid data and research.

Cheers,

Raf.

Deega
2nd April 2013, 23:21
Thanks AmerZo, you did a lot of work putting together all the Treads and Posts pertaining to the phenomenon Nemesis or some other names of this planetoid. It looks like a compendium, great of you to offer this to Avalon members.

As I have read in another Tread, you seem to classified this phenomenon as dis-info, do I read you right..?

My belief of this phenomenon is based on intuition, on gut feeling, something is heading our way! I don't say that to bring fear, nobody on this Forum is afraid of this, and I have read many don't believe any of this, and this is great also!

As you are aware, many scientists were giving advice on what IRAS had photographed in the beginning of his journey. An article in some Scientific Magazine was written on the subject, saying that a large planetoid was heading our way.

Later on, other scientists mentioned that IRAS had photographed another Galaxy in proximity of our Solar System. So who knows, even scientists contradict themselves, we surely do the same here, and it great!, maybe something will come out of our exchanges.

We are in world of lies, a world of illusion, a world control by the Financial World who want to keep us un-informed, and what else they want to keep us from knowing...?

And what would be the reasons why many governments of the World have build cities underground, they know something we don't. And why the rush to build a Seeds Vault in Norway, why recently...?, something that the Financial World don't want us to know.

Love to all.

Edited

Interesting read - http://www.viewzone.com/browndwarf2.html

http://www.viewzone.com/nemesis.html

RMorgan
2nd April 2013, 23:49
My belief of this phenomenon is based on intuition, on gut feeling, something is heading our way! I don't say that to bring fear, nobody on this Forum is afraid of this, and I have read many don't believe any of this, and this is great also!


Hello my friend Deega,

This is a very interesting phenomenon that goes way beyond the existence or nonexistence of a potential massive threat to the human race.

As far as recorded history go, men always had this gut feeling that something is on our way; demons, mad gods, titans, plagues, curses, rapture, asteroids, aliens, rogue planets, solar storms, you name it.

"The End is Nigh" syndrome is just part of who we are. Apparently, this feeling will never go away as long as we live.

Unfortunately, it seems that we´re unable to overcome this inherited fear, and some people, whether they are our own leaders or just dishonest or delusional individuals, have been using this ever present latent sensation of fear against us for several purposes, the most common being mass manipulation and financial purposes.

Of course, the unpredictable nature of such phenomena is really fascinating. Our time will come, eventually. We know that, but we just don´t know when, and this whole fear and fascination comes from the insecurity generated by having no idea about what the future may hold for us.

However, we know that, statistically, judging by the thousands of previous miserably failed predictions about the various facets of such alleged threat, it´s most likely that we all will die from old age long before the human race finally may witness its ultimate end.

So, lets enjoy the ride and try not to be overly paranoid; While we´re too busy imagining death, life happens. :)

Raf.

Deega
3rd April 2013, 12:50
Hello my friend Deega,


Hello my friend Raf, thanks for your reply, here is a few comments.


As far as recorded history go, men always had this gut feeling that something is on our way; demons, mad gods, titans, plagues, curses, rapture, asteroids, aliens, rogue planets, solar storms, you name it.

In this particular case, my gut feeling stand on the premises of Scientific Research by astronomers, astrophysicists who have been studying what is going on in the Oort Cloud, fascinating research. They have found disturbing evidence that has them say that there something special going on in this part of our Solar System. It’s on these premises that my gut feeling stands, not what you have mentioned. Don’t believe me, read on the IRAS Satellite discovery.


"The End is Nigh" syndrome is just part of who we are. Apparently, this feeling will never go away as long as we live.
Unfortunately, it seems that we´re unable to overcome this inherited fear, and some people, whether they are our own leaders or just dishonest or delusional individuals, have been using this ever present latent sensation of fear against us for several purposes, the most common being mass manipulation and financial purposes.

The above don’t stand in this instance, though, I would have to say that the programming we received when young has had some effect on what you are mentioning.


Of course, the unpredictable nature of such phenomena is really fascinating. Our time will come, eventually. We know that, but we just don´t know when, and this whole fear and fascination comes from the insecurity generated by having no idea about what the future may hold for us.

Concerning what the future hold, we have a somewhat control over it if we live by love (not easily done though!), whatever happened, it would be relatively easy (not always surely!) to accepted as one more step in the pursuit of enlightening our spirit.


However, we know that, statistically, judging by the thousands of previous miserably failed predictions about the various facets of such alleged threat, it´s most likely that we all will die from old age long before the human race finally may witness its ultimate end.

I should point out here, I’m talking about scientists doing research in the Oort Cloud, not on what you love to indicate ‘’failed predictions’’. You know that there were people like Edgar Cayce, Nostradamus, and surely others, that were accurate in their predictions, one don’t need to put them all in the same basket.

All the best to you.

greybeard
3rd April 2013, 13:14
I posted more information here
Regards chris

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57604-Niburu-has-returned-to-the-Inner-Orbit-of-our-Solar-System&p=657084&viewfull=1#post657084

Hervé
3rd April 2013, 16:55
[...]
As I have read in another Tread, you seem to classified this phenomenon as dis-info, do I read you right..?

[...]

If I am writing about a phenomenon, that's data and/or empirical fact; therefore not disinfo per se.

However, the interpretations and theories spun around those facts are mostly disinfo.

Case in point: "Nibiru entering our solar system" that's disinfo fear mongering because it implies that Nibiru is not part of our solar system. However, according to its legend, it has a devastating "cycle" upon this Earth every so-and-so years. The latter implies that, because it is cyclical, it does belong to (pinned to) our solar system and therefore CANNOT "enter" it: it's already "in" it!

Same story for the brown dwarf as a binary companion to our sun. If that is the case, then, it is part of our solar system and accordingly CANNOT "enter" our solar system simply because it is already part of it, right from start!

The other disinfo spins are regarding the existence of an additional "planet" -- big enough to disturb the orbits of the outer planets of our solar system -- within our solar system. That's debunked daily with astronomers , professionals and amateurs, who skim the night skies all over the Earth -- at different times -- looking for any puny object that display any kind of motion by stacking a number of pictures onto each other. That's how comets and asteroids are discovered. Yet, no trace of such an object has ever been found and not because of a lack of looking for it!

In view of the above, don't you start smelling "PsyOps" as described by John Rappoport?


The most accurate description of that mysterious (there it is that propaganda... "mysterious") body is that it is cold, hence not radiating much energy, and does not reflect light as a planet does (see the articles referenced in that PDF). Also, it does not perceptibly move as a planet or a comet would.

Hence:
A comet? NIET!

A planet? NIET!

So, why call it "Planet X," "Tyche," etc?



Where did Sitchin find the 3600 years cycle for Nibiru? No one knows! It's certainly not written on any Sumerian tablets. Also, according to one of Bill Ryan's friend/witness, Sitchin wrote his books via automatic writings. Hence the "Fiction" category for his books.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20331-The-Anunnaki&p=216395&viewfull=1#post216395 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20331-The-Anunnaki&p=216395&viewfull=1#post216395)
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?24489-Was-Sitchin-wrong&p=257351&viewfull=1#post257351 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?24489-Was-Sitchin-wrong&p=257351&viewfull=1#post257351)

So, Nibiru? NIET!

In my view, keeping calling that identified body as "Nibiru" is a not so subtle way of perpetuating the propaganda.



Let me put it this way, our solar system as a binary system, has become stable as such for a long, long time with both stars orbiting around each other. Check this animation to get a visual on how this works:

http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...n/theory.shtml (http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/theory.shtml)

As such, the rule of the relationship between our Sun, its companion and their respective planets is: NEVER THE TWAIN SHALL MEET!


Hence all you can read about a large object coming in between Earth and Sun and using our Sun planetary system as a bowling alley is just propaganda and disinfo to foster fear and hysteria.

Deega
3rd April 2013, 17:27
Thanks Amzer Zo, for post 18, I just want to say that Astronomers, Astrophysicts are observing perturbing phenomenons in the outer limit of our Solar System and some of them speculate that it should be a big planetoid object.

They were not able to see it yet, so we will have to wait and see what is up coming!

This morning Chris put up a link (Niburu has returned to the Inner Orbit of our Solar System ???) on a similar Tread, have a look, it is very interesting, you will like.

Love to all.

Hervé
3rd April 2013, 17:56
[..]
This morning Chris put up a link (Niburu has returned to the Inner Orbit of our Solar System ???) on a similar Tread, have a look, it is very interesting, you will like.

Love to all.

Thanks Deega, but... no thanks.

It is partly because of that thread that I started this one (check the OP first paragraph...) and check the title of that thread you mentioned... the disinfo is right in that title... and the OP of that other thread has now started trolling this one... what a world!

As for McCanney:


From McCanney's Website (http://www.jmccanneyscience.com/):

February 27, 2013 posting (http://www.jmccanneyscience.com/thought%20of%20the%20day.HTM) ... !!!!!!!!!!!!! EMERGENCY ANNOUNCEMENT ... DISINFORMATION UPDATE !!!! THE DISINFO CREW IS AT IT AGAIN ... AT LEAST 2 YOUTUBE POSTINGS ARE TRYING TO IMPERSONATE ME AND PASS FALSE INFORMATION ... there are at least 2 youtube videos posted recently by nameless disinformation agents placing my voice making it look like i am saying that a planet X object is coming into the solar system at this time ... THIS IS NOT TRUE ... I AM NOT SAYING ANY SUCH THING ... AND THIS IS WHY I NEVER POST ON YOUTUBE OR ANY OTHER MEDIUM EXCEPT MY OWN WEB PAGE ... what they have done is chopped segments of a 2004 program of mine and posted a february 2013 date on the face and posted on youtube under 2 different names making it sound like i am stating planet X object is now in the solar system ... then in the listener comments they of course post many slams trying to make me look like a nut case making false predictions of planet X ... I AM CURRENTLY WORKING WITH YOUTUBE TO HAVE THESE POSTINGS REMOVED ... this should show you that i am succeeding in informing the public of REAL events and exposing the government bogus tier II science for what it is ... this type of misinformation is their form of damage control as we head into this year of GREAT COMETs in which NASA and their fairy tale science will be exposed worldwide for the garbage that it is and my Plasma Discharge Comet Model will become the clear truth on the topic of comets and the electrical nature of our solar system ... this comes also as i am about the release my latest book (see the next posting) ... it seems someone is afraid of my success ... jim mccanney


http://www.jmccanneyscience.com/JamesMcCanneyScienceHour_February_28_2013.mp3

Hervé
8th April 2013, 02:46
Regarding the psyops... it seems it's finally getting unglued...

From comments on "Nibiru" videos:




d5uncr (http://www.youtube.com/user/d5uncr) 2 months ago (http://www.youtube.com/comment?lc=M_F4n6l6sKa36wR3sXg47HuMjzfj86EPTlfo5mA k908)
Marshal Masters, Mr yowusa himself, promised I'd see two suns on Dec 21 (yowusa . com/videos/yowusa/twosuns).
Where is it? I want my money back...

·
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ZnoUpMxbIQ0/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/R1MeIYdsFAk/s48-c-k/photo.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/user/PoopyPaul) Brian B (http://www.youtube.com/user/PoopyPaul) 1 year ago (http://www.youtube.com/comment?lc=M_F4n6l6sKbcZGHge5ie1HDU2tg3ely8oQjAJjx kQcg)
So I watched quite a few 'NIBIRU' videos today and either at the beginning or the end there is some sales pitch about praying to Jesus. Do you suppose if I were watching this video somewhere in the middle east I would get an Allah commercial?

·
http://i1.ytimg.com/i/4j2vwjMWWLJ87FO93k0s_g/1.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/user/mrstarfighter) mrstarfighter (http://www.youtube.com/user/mrstarfighter) 1 year ago (http://www.youtube.com/comment?lc=M_F4n6l6sKYN4OaWGN1Mb0ZOK2q-ZV46BbSv-FAkJuM)
stick with the yowusa.com website, Nibiru is inbound and March 22nd will be the next 188 day alignment.
· in reply to pdxeddie1111 (http://www.youtube.com/user/pdxeddie1111) (Show the comment) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=L97w6DQt9Jk#)





https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-VY4jZZVCykU/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/HVtXHd1c2So/s48-c-k/photo.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/user/IciMymy) Myriam Thibault (http://www.youtube.com/user/IciMymy) 1 year ago (http://www.youtube.com/comment?lc=M_F4n6l6sKYFTMs2effb-M174EhGW98rnT1MBMsRwxI)
So, Where Is Planet X, Nibiru, the Blue Star & Or Whatever, Is... coming?

Years after years... always... next year!

Freed Fox
8th April 2013, 04:09
"The End is Nigh" syndrome is just part of who we are. Apparently, this feeling will never go away as long as we live.

Unfortunately, it seems that we´re unable to overcome this inherited fear, and some people, whether they are our own leaders or just dishonest or delusional individuals, have been using this ever present latent sensation of fear against us for several purposes, the most common being mass manipulation and financial purposes.

Of course, the unpredictable nature of such phenomena is really fascinating. Our time will come, eventually. We know that, but we just don´t know when, and this whole fear and fascination comes from the insecurity generated by having no idea about what the future may hold for us.

I agree Raf. It is hugely immoral for those who use these things for their own gain (financial or otherwise). They are among the worst. Those who spread this baseless sensationalism without gain are at best misguided. They aren't as bad, but they certainly aren't helping.

I think the phenomena (and its aptitude for spreading so prolifically) stems not only from our uncertainty of the future, but also an innate sense that one day we will each die. Some don't recognize it, and many are in denial of the fact. I believe this is, in a way, a projection of their own fear of physical death. There is a strange security in the sense that the whole world is going to go down with them.

So I'll second the advice given above; curb your paranoia. Accept that certain things are inevitable, and there is nothing to be gained by living in fear. No amount of worrying would stop Nibiru/whatever (if it existed), and no level of concern will prevent the death that is on your horizon. Don't be weighed down by circumstances which are out of your control. Do not allow yourselves to be ruled by fear.

onawah
8th April 2013, 04:52
Thanks Amzer Zo for this thread, though I must confess it's unlikely I will read it all.
I am just not processing information very well these days, and so I will just ask one question, if you would be so kind as to answer it.
I used to read James MacCanney's site a lot and my feeling is that his information is sensible and accurate for the most part.
update: The following is Amzer Zo's summation, not John Rappaport's, as I mistakenly thought originally, so I am delineating that here. My question was if Amzer Zo agreed with Rappaport and MacCanney, and he answers that in his next post, as well as here:

Let me put it this way, our solar system as a binary system, has become stable as such for a long, long time with both stars orbiting around each other. Check this animation to get a visual on how this works:

http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...n/theory.shtml

As such, the rule of the relationship between our Sun, its companion and their respective planets is: NEVER THE TWAIN SHALL MEET!


Hence all you can read about a large object coming in between Earth and Sun and using our Sun planetary system as a bowling alley is just propaganda and disinfo to foster fear and hysteria.


Thanks!

Hervé
8th April 2013, 12:09
Thanks Amzer Zo for this thread, though I must confess it's unlikely I will read it all.
I am just not processing information very well these days, and so I will just ask one question, if you would be so kind as to answer it.
I used to read James MacCanney's site a lot and my feeling is that his information is sensible and accurate for the most part.
Do you and does he agree with John Rappaport's summation?:

Let me put it this way, our solar system as a binary system, has become stable as such for a long, long time with both stars orbiting around each other. Check this animation to get a visual on how this works:

http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/theory.shtml

As such, the rule of the relationship between our Sun, its companion and their respective planets is: NEVER THE TWAIN SHALL MEET!


Hence all you can read about a large object coming in between Earth and Sun and using our Sun planetary system as a bowling alley is just propaganda and disinfo to foster fear and hysteria.
Thanks!

Hi onawah,

The portion you quoted is what I came to conclude after chewing on the data for a long while. That is, what you quoted above are my own conclusions in my own words and are not from John Rappoport.

John Rappoport's article on how psyops operate is the last portion of the post below the "¤=[Post Update]=¤" in post # 7
(http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57644-Nemesis-Tyche-Nibiru-Planet-X-Brown-Dwarf-Binary-System-Myths-Realities&p=656650&viewfull=1#post656650)
In any case, it seems that James McCanney agrees with both John and myself:


[...]


From McCanneys Website (http://www.jmccanneyscience.com/):

February 27, 2013 posting (http://www.jmccanneyscience.com/thought%20of%20the%20day.HTM) ... !!!!!!!!!!!!! EMERGENCY ANNOUNCEMENT ... DISINFORMATION UPDATE !!!! THE DISINFO CREW IS AT IT AGAIN ... AT LEAST 2 YOUTUBE POSTINGS ARE TRYING TO IMPERSONATE ME AND PASS FALSE INFORMATION ... there are at least 2 youtube videos posted recently by nameless disinformation agents placing my voice making it look like i am saying that a planet X object is coming into the solar system at this time ... THIS IS NOT TRUE ... I AM NOT SAYING ANY SUCH THING ... AND THIS IS WHY I NEVER POST ON YOUTUBE OR ANY OTHER MEDIUM EXCEPT MY OWN WEB PAGE ... what they have done is chopped segments of a 2004 program of mine and posted a february 2013 date on the face and posted on youtube under 2 different names making it sound like i am stating planet X object is now in the solar system ... then in the listener comments they of course post many slams trying to make me look like a nut case making false predictions of planet X ... I AM CURRENTLY WORKING WITH YOUTUBE TO HAVE THESE POSTINGS REMOVED ... this should show you that i am succeeding in informing the public of REAL events and exposing the government bogus tier II science for what it is ... this type of misinformation is their form of damage control as we head into this year of GREAT COMETs in which NASA and their fairy tale science will be exposed worldwide for the garbage that it is and my Plasma Discharge Comet Model will become the clear truth on the topic of comets and the electrical nature of our solar system ... this comes also as i am about the release my latest book (see the next posting) ... it seems someone is afraid of my success ... jim mccanney

Radio broadcast stating the above in other words:
http://www.jmccanneyscience.com/JamesMcCanneyScienceHour_February_28_2013.mp3

The video I originally commented on (see #7 in post # 7 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57644-Nemesis-Tyche-Nibiru-Planet-X-Brown-Dwarf-Binary-System-Myths-Realities&p=656650&viewfull=1#post656650)), was the faked one that mentioned the psyop disinformation nonsense which didn't make any sense to me.

I have no disagreement with James McCanney on his above statement as can be seen in the rest of my conclusion in that post (# 760 in post # 1 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57644-Nemesis-Tyche-Nibiru-Planet-X-Brown-Dwarf-Binary-System-Myths-Realities&p=656628&viewfull=1#post656628)) which portion I quoted to Deega:


As such, the rule of the relationship between our Sun, its companion and their respective planets is: NEVER THE TWAIN SHALL MEET!


Hence all you can read about a large object coming in between Earth and Sun and using our Sun planetary system as a bowling alley is just propaganda and disinfo to foster fear and hysteria.

However, heavy cometary and asteroid showers and ensuing catastrophes can result from the twin stars shaving each other's Oort cloud as depicted in this other animation:

http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/evidence/sheeredge.shtml

Hope this helps clarify the waters purposefully muddied?
I quoted portions of my logical path to answer Deega (post # 16 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57644-Nemesis-Tyche-Nibiru-Planet-X-Brown-Dwarf-Binary-System-Myths-Realities&p=657274&viewfull=1#post657274)) in order to demonstrate that anything claimed about Nibiru/Planet X could not possibly be true and therefore said claims are disinfo/psyops as delineated by John Rappoport in his article.

You would have to read John Rappoport's article on how psyops are implemented in order to see how the Nibiru/Planet X myth fits the psyop template he describes.

onawah
8th April 2013, 17:22
It's nice to know that most likely, we have at least one less big thing to worry about.
Thanks again for all the work you put into this thread, Amzer Zo.

When I clicked on the link you provided above:

http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/evidence/sheeredge.shtml

I got this:
Oops! Page Not Found
Sorry, the page you were looking for could not be found.

Do you have another link for that animation?

Hervé
8th April 2013, 23:05
Thanks.

Fixed!

Cheers!

RMorgan
10th April 2013, 18:42
Hey folks,

Here is a must watch video for those interested on learning about the fundamental flaws in Zacheria Sitchin´s work regarding his "translations" of the Sumerian texts . This is an essential video for those who want to see how unsubstantiated the whole Nibiru "theory" actually is. ( you can jump the first 13 minutes of introduction if you want to).

M5UU-a9Kvuo

Raf.

The Truth Is In There
11th April 2013, 10:13
i don't think sitchin was translating anything, i think he wrote what he was being told. there are several people who claim that he was a reptilian himself or at least hosting one. his books are probably part of the "programming".

jiminii
19th May 2013, 07:41
take a look at this
photographed from a bus in bangkok
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wW-JEMbtvA
it definately looks like 2 suns to me

jim

Hervé
19th May 2013, 08:17
take a look at this
photographed from a bus in bangkok
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wW-JEMbtvA
it definately looks like 2 suns to me

jim

What's real to me is that it's a double reflection... original sun reflected on the inside window pane, opposite the side of the setting sun, of the bus back onto the window on the side of the sun... check the angle of reflection... basic optics solution with mirrors.

Proceed with that "study" I offered and maybe you'll have a clearer idea about the "Nibiru" psyop?

chocolate
30th October 2013, 23:15
And here I found another article about ISON: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/10/22/secret-space-war-xi-comet-ison-gambit/
"Secret Space War XI: Comet Ison Gambit
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by Preston James

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[Mod-edit: removed the long unformatted version of the article]

Hervé
31st October 2013, 01:07
Hi chocolate,

This thread has nothing to do with comet Ison and as such is "Off Topic."

There are multiple monster threads dedicated to "Elenin" where logic, hard data and sensible explanations kept being laughed at and belittled to no end... who is laughing now?

Ison belongs to the same category insofar as being a psyop (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54217-Their-Mind-and-the-Emotional-Matrix-that-we-create-with-it.&p=652209&viewfull=1#post652209).

Get acquainted with the "Elenin" threads and start your own thread on "Ison."

Here are a few of the threads regarding "Elenin":

The death of Comet Elenin : a return to rationality? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30075-The-death-of-Comet-Elenin-a-return-to-rationality)

Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.)

As for cometary tails, trails and trains, here is something to consider and really understand:



well, the thing of it is, you see, that the debris trail is still with us.

[...]


True,

However, since the remnants of Elenin crossed the ecliptic on Sept. 13, anything not substantial that's left of Elenin has been blown above Earth ever since by the solar winds...

So, from an heliocentric point of view, Elenin is currently beyond Earth's orbit and way above Earth's ecliptic orbit.

The only time Earth would presumably run into anything left of that cloud of particles not blown away by solar winds would be Sept. 13 next year. [see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=293451&viewfull=1#post293451) <--- and this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=293543&viewfull=1#post293543) <--- as well]

Go the JPL site (http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=Ison;orb=1;cov=0;log=0;cad=0#orb) and check what's Ison's orbit with respect to Earth and see if it's similar to something like Elenin. As far as I am concerned, I am not interested in doing so.

mountain_jim
31st October 2013, 13:09
There is also a thread on this specific VT article, I recall.

Bill Ryan
1st November 2013, 14:35
-------

A quick note: In my strong opinion, Preston James really quite discredited himself with his article above (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57644-Nemesis-Tyche-Nibiru-Planet-X-Brown-Dwarf-Binary-System-Myths-Realities&p=751333&viewfull=1#post751333). He's an irresponsible, poor researcher if he doesn't yet know that the "two apparent objects accompanying Comet Ison", which he speculates are American Antigravity Craft, were image artifacts caused by parallax.

Read more about that in my post here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?62457-Is-Comet-Ison-Really-A-Comet&p=729147&viewfull=1#post729147

In my strong opinion again, Planet X may be what we have to worry about sometime in the next few years. Ison (as I've stated clearly here on maybe half a dozen threads or more), is just a regular comet. Thankfully, it'll soon be history, and then (again!) we can focus on important matters.

:focus:

christian
1st November 2013, 14:52
Here is a must watch video for those interested on learning about the fundamental flaws in Zacheria Sitchin´s work regarding his "translations" of the Sumerian texts . This is an essential video for those who want to see how unsubstantiated the whole Nibiru "theory" actually is.

Zitchin's work is not the whole of the Nibiru theory. As far as I know, even mainstream scientists agree that there must be one ore more relatively huge bodies in our solar system that we have not yet discovered, because the gravitational data otherwise wouldn't add up.

Here's a piece from Marshall Masters about his findings in regard to Planet X, "the video you've been waiting for."

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(By the way, what I found most interesting in Sitchin's books was that apparently all these biblical stories were in Sumerian writings first.)

Hervé
1st November 2013, 18:33
...

Here's a piece from Marshall Masters about his findings in regard to Planet X, "the video you've been waiting for."

...

... psssttt...


I live less than thirty miles south from the Turrialba crater and we look at that site all the time,
as we are concerned about eruptions.
Also I can say all unusual events here make it immediately to the national news-
UFO sightings, which used to happen quite frequently, as well as strange sounds.
So far nothing.

Hervé
27th February 2016, 16:22
The Solar system: A perspective



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Oort_cloud_Sedna_orbit.svg/600px-Oort_cloud_Sedna_orbit.svg.png (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/Oort_cloud_Sedna_orbit.svg)
The presumed distance of the Oort cloud compared to the rest of the Solar System (click to enlarge).



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Kuiper_oort.jpg


https://fwtinw.bn1.livefilestore.com/y1pkps1XfjpzgUZ4o2BRVicxmjV-3mYPNSdAuE28A7tZD_31_juIW4uzXl8gmNaoOf21Jv7PgRHQK0 5Kd1_lWH7ZovRQ4aCZ3Tq/081211-am-comets3-02.jpg?psid=1


The only serious and plausible research into a binary system I've found comes from this site: http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/theory.shtml

Because their hypothesis is built upon empirical data and explains the precession of equinoxes, and their observed anomalies, perfectly.

This is how a binary star system behaves:



https://fwtinw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p-GVcbSbWldyGBQSPHMm5Gu2c_gQooLDnrX1_hMZrD_nh6r2dp8J qH4VVldBJlwtGscUOsel3d2lyJBIH_FTDPsGJs5eNRHVz/Binary-01.gif?psid=1
Our solar system, associated with a brown dwarf star which is, therefore, the companion to our Sun in its journey around the galaxy. Both constitute our BINARY solar system. As they dance around each other they don't penetrate into each other's planetary system but "polish" each other's Oort cloud. That's the assumption from our Oort cloud having a "sheer edge" on its outside (clean shaven outside, the inside is a lot fuzzier).

https://fwtinw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pbOeTgzrNa9sADbYgZAy3z11fT69WySfDNJf42APzQ18uIC9 4BUr-vR5E2cZisY3m5R-8hhCXNzszwOKKaGdpYuA_4yCwt9F0/Sheer%20edge-02.gif?psid=1
Now, that's quite a pool (billiards) game which takes a 24,000 years cycle to complete!


According to the above, that sun's binary twin would have to be looked for beyond the Oort Cloud... that's not exactly next door :)

Whereas the inferred "Ninth Planet" only disturbs - apparently - objects from the Kuiper belt according to this article: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/01/150119-new-ninth-planet-solar-system-space/


http://news.nationalgeographic.com/content/dam/news/2016/01/20/hidden_planet/02hiddenplanet.jpg

onawah
28th February 2016, 17:22
In the video of the binary system, the asteroids are mostly shooting out into space and not penetrating into the inner part of the solar systems, so is the theory erroneous that the increasing number of comets we are experiencing on Earth caused by the other system coming in closer to us?
And do the solar systems pick up more debris as they travel around or do they continuously shrink as far as the number of asteroids due to the sheering off effect?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Hervé;1049530]
Our solar system, associated with a brown dwarf star which is, therefore, the companion to our Sun in its journey around the galaxy. Both constitute our BINARY solar system. As they dance around each other they don't penetrate into each other's planetary system but "polish" each other's Oort cloud. That's the assumption from our Oort cloud having a "sheer edge" on its outside (clean shaven outside, the inside is a lot fuzzier).

https://fwtinw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pbOeTgzrNa9sADbYgZAy3z11fT69WySfDNJf42APzQ18uIC9 4BUr-vR5E2cZisY3m5R-8hhCXNzszwOKKaGdpYuA_4yCwt9F0/Sheer%20edge-02.gif?psid=1
Now, that's quite a pool (billiards) game which takes a 24,000 years cycle to complete! [LEFT]

According to the above, that sun's binary twin would have to be looked for beyond the Oort Cloud... that's not exactly next door :)

Hervé
28th February 2016, 18:26
In the video of the binary system, the asteroids are mostly shooting out into space and not penetrating into the inner part of the solar systems, so is the theory erroneous that the increasing number of comets we are experiencing on Earth caused by the other system coming in closer to us?
And do the solar systems pick up more debris as they travel around or do they continuously shrink as far as the number of asteroids due to the sheering off effect?
Thanks!
[...]

What's to keep in mind here is that this is a simplified graphic illustration to demonstrate the concept at work.

My understanding is that any of these billiard balls interact with each other but, also, and moreover, are all "pinned" to the binary system with long elliptical orbits as in "what goes around, comes around"... so that any of those ejected can't help but come back in cycles... accordingly, waves of meteor showers can be due to either or to a combination of the influence both objects (inferred dwarf twin + an assumed ninth planet).

My interpretation is that most of the catastrophic results of the "shaving" occurred at the beginning and settled down over time with less and less ejected bodies on collision course with planets, i.e. most of the catastrophic collisions have already occurred and we now have a more or less settled system.

giovonni
28th February 2016, 18:38
In the video of the binary system, the asteroids are mostly shooting out into space and not penetrating into the inner part of the solar systems, so is the theory erroneous that the increasing number of comets we are experiencing on Earth caused by the other system coming in closer to us?
And do the solar systems pick up more debris as they travel around or do they continuously shrink as far as the number of asteroids due to the sheering off effect?
Thanks!
[...]

What's to keep in mind here is that this is a simplified graphic illustration to demonstrate the concept at work.

My understanding is that any of these billiard balls interact with each other but, also, and moreover, are all "pinned" to the binary system with long elliptical orbits as in "what goes around, comes around"... so that any of those ejected can't help but come back in cycles... accordingly, waves of meteor showers can be due to either or to a combination of the influence both objects (inferred dwarf twin + an assumed ninth planet).

My interpretation is that most of the catastrophic results of the "shaving" occurred at the beginning and settled down over time with less and less ejected bodies on collision course with planets, i.e. most of the catastrophic collisions have already occurred and we now have a more or less settled system.

Only takes one.

Hervé
3rd September 2016, 13:11
Ushering in the idea:

Discovery of highly unusual planetary system finds twin stars hosting three giant exoplanets (https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/08/160831133521.htm)

Science Daily (https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/08/160831133521.htm) Wed, 31 Aug 2016 00:00 UTC


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© Timothy Rodigas. This is an illustration of this highly unusual system, which features the smallest-separation binary stars that both host planets ever discovered. Only six other metal-poor binary star systems with exoplanets have ever been found.


A team of Carnegie scientists has discovered three giant planets in a binary star system composed of stellar ''twins'' that are also effectively siblings of our Sun. One star hosts two planets and the other hosts the third. The system represents the smallest-separation binary in which both stars host planets that has ever been observed. The findings, which may help explain the influence that giant planets like Jupiter have over a solar system's architecture, have been accepted for publication in The Astronomical Journal.

New discoveries coming from the study of exoplanetary systems will show us where on the continuum of ordinary to unique our own Solar System's layout falls. So far, planet hunters have revealed populations of planets that are very different from what we see in our Solar System. The most-common exoplanets detected are so-called super-Earths, which are larger than our planet but smaller than Neptune or Uranus. Given current statistics, Jupiter-sized planets seem fairly rare -- having been detected only around a small percentage of stars.

This is of interest because Jupiter's gravitational pull was likely a huge influence on our Solar System's architecture during its formative period. So the scarcity of Jupiter-like planets could explain why our home system is different from all the others found to date.

The new discovery from the Carnegie team is the first exoplanet detection made based solely on data from the Planet Finder Spectrograph -- developed by Carnegie scientists and mounted on the Magellan Clay Telescopes at Carnegie's Las Campanas Observatory. PFS is able to find large planets with long-duration orbits or orbits that are very elliptical rather than circular, including the new trio of planets discovered in this '"twin'" star study. This special capability comes from the long observing baseline of PFS; it has been taking observations for six years.

Led by Johanna Teske, the team included a number of Carnegie scientists from both the Department of Terrestrial Magnetism in Washington, DC, and the Carnegie Observatories in Pasadena, CA, as well as Steve Vogt of the University of California Santa Cruz.

"We are trying to figure out if giant planets like Jupiter often have long and, or eccentric orbits," Teske explained. "If this is the case, it would be an important clue to figuring out the process by which our Solar System formed, and might help us understand where habitable planets are likely to be found."

The twin stars studied by the group are called HD 133131A and HD 133131B. The former hosts two moderately eccentric planets, one of which is, at a minimum, about 1 and a half times Jupiter's mass and the other of which is, at a minimum, just over half Jupiter's mass. The latter hosts one moderately eccentric planet with a mass at least 2.5 times Jupiter's.

The two stars themselves are separated by only 360 astronomical units (AU). One AU is the distance between the Earth and the Sun. This is extremely close for twin stars with detected planets orbiting the individual stars. The next-closest binary system that hosts planets is composed of two stars that are about 1,000 AU apart.

The system is even more unusual because both stars are "metal poor," meaning that most of their mass is hydrogen and helium, as opposed to other elements like iron or oxygen. Most stars that host giant planets are "metal rich." Only six other metal-poor binary star systems with exoplanets have ever been found, making this discovery especially intriguing.

Adding to the intrigue, Teske used very precise analysis to reveal that the stars are not actually identical "twins" as previously thought, but have slightly different chemical compositions, making them more like the stellar equivalent of fraternal twins.

This could indicate that one star swallowed some baby planets early in its life, changing its composition slightly. Alternatively, the gravitational forces of the detected giant planets that remained may have had a strong effect on fully-formed small planets, flinging them in towards the star or out into space.

"The probability of finding a system with all these components was extremely small, so these results will serve as an important benchmark for understanding planet formation, especially in binary systems," Teske explained.

The other members of Teske's team were Carnegie's Stephen Shectman, Matías Díaz, Paul Butler, Jeffrey Crane, and Pamela Arriagada.

This work was funded by NASA, CONICYT-PFCHA/Doctorado Nacional Chile, and the Carnegie Institution for Science.

The research made use of the SIMBAD database, operated at CDS in Strasbourg, France, and the Exoplanet Orbit Database and Exoplanet Data Explorer.

Journal Reference: Johanna K. Teske, Stephen A. Shectman, Steve S. Vogt, Matías Díaz, R. Paul Butler, Jeffrey D. Crane, Ian B. Thompson, Pamela Arriagada. The Magellan PFS Planet Search Program: Radial Velocity and Stellar Abundance Analyses of the 360 AU, Metal-Poor Binary "Twins" (http://arxiv.org/abs/1608.06216v1) HD 133131A & B. The Astronomical Journal, 2016

Hervé
22nd December 2016, 21:38
A Star Came Within 0.8 Light-Years Of Our Sun 70,000 Years Ago (http://io9.gizmodo.com/a-star-came-within-0-8-light-years-of-our-sun-70-000-ye-1686500486)

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Artist's impression of the red dwarf Scholz's star and its brown dwarf companion. (Credit: Michael Osadciw/University of Rochester)

An international team of astronomers has identified a star that passed through the outer reaches of the Oort Cloud some 70,000 years ago. It came within a distance of 0.8 light-years, making it the closest known flyby of a star to the Solar System.

The star, dubbed Scholz's star, is actually part of a binary system. Its companion is a brown dwarf, a kind of "failed star" reminiscent of a gas giant. After analyzing its current trajectory, a group of astronomers from the United States, Chile, Europe, and South Africa have calculated that at its closest approach, it came within approximately 52,000 AU to the Sun, or 0.8 light-years. That's 5 trillion miles (8 trillion km), which, by cosmological standards, is excruciatingly close for an interstellar flyby of this nature.

Not Quite Visible From Earth — But Just Maybe...
When it visited our Solar System, it flew through the outer reaches of the Oort Cloud — a massive spherical region comprised of trillions of bits of ice, rock, and planetesimals. The cloud's maximal distance is 0.8 light-years, which places it at one-fifth the distance to the nearest star, Proxima Centauri. The outer limit of the Oort cloud is considered the cosmographical boundary of the Solar System and the outermost limit of the Sun's dominant gravitational influence.

When Scholz's star was in the neighborhood, it would have been a 10th magnitude star (red dwarfs are very dim). That's about 50 times fainter than what can be seen with the naked eye at night. Under normal circumstances, it would be invisible. But because red dwarfs are magnetically active, it could have briefly "flared-up" (i.e., V-band flares) to become thousands of times brighter. The astronomers say it's possible that the star was visible to our paleolithic ancestors for a few minutes of hours if this rare flaring event transpired at the time.

Slow Tangential Motion
Scholz's star is now 20 light-years away, but it displays very little motion across the sky, or what astronomers refer to as slow tangential motion. To the scientists, this indicated one of two possibilities: either the star is moving directly towards us or it's moving away.


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"Most stars this nearby show much larger tangential motion," noted University of Rochester astronomer Eric Mamajek in a release (http://www.rochester.edu/newscenter/scholz-star/). "The small tangential motion and proximity initially indicated that the star was most likely either moving towards a future close encounter with the solar system, or it had 'recently' come close to the solar system and was moving away. Sure enough, the radial velocity measurements were consistent with it running away from the Sun's vicinity – and we realized it must have had a close flyby in the past."

The trajectory of Scholz's star was pieced together by taking its tangential velocity and radial velocity, which the astronomers did by measuring its spectrum and doppler shift. By doing so, they were able to trace it back in time to its position 70,000 years ago.

The Earth's Nemesis?
On a related note, astronomers recently calculated that "rogue star" HIP 85605 will come close to our solar system in about 240,000 to 470,000 years from now. It was initially thought that HIP 85605 will come within the Oort Cloud (http://io9.com/a-dangerous-nemesis-star-may-visit-our-solar-system-man-1676353042), but the new study suggests the original calculation was off by a factor of 10. They now believe it won't come any closer than about 200 light-years.

Which is good news. Large celestial objects that pass through the Oort Cloud, dubbed Nemesis Stars, can change the trajectory of asteroids and other objects, resulting in "comet showers."

As for Scholz's star, models indicate there was a 98% chance that it grazed the outer reaches of the Oort Cloud. The scientists say it's unlikely, therefore, that this red dwarf — with a mass 8% that of the Sun — and its brown dwarf — at 6% the mass of the Sun — perturbed the Oort Cloud to a significant degree.

Read the entire study at Astrophysical Journal Letters:
"The Closest Known Flyby of a Star to the Solar System (http://arxiv.org/abs/1502.04655)".

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Related:
A Dangerous Nemesis Star May Visit Our Solar System Many Years From Now (http://io9.com/a-dangerous-nemesis-star-may-visit-our-solar-system-man-1676353042) A stellar orange dwarf has a 90% chance of passing through the outer reaches of our solar system no … Read more on io9.​com (http://io9.com/a-dangerous-nemesis-star-may-visit-our-solar-system-man-1676353042)

Incoming Star Could Spawn Swarms of Comets When It Passes Our Sun (http://gizmodo.com/incoming-star-could-spawn-swarms-of-comets-when-it-pass-1790406698)

Hervé
22nd March 2018, 16:08
With respect to that previous post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57644-Nemesis-Tyche-Nibiru-Planet-X-Brown-Dwarf-Binary-System-Myths-Realities&p=1122290&viewfull=1#post1122290), this does indeed seem like a very valid candidate for our Sun's binary twin:

Scholz's star disturbed prehistory's solar system's comets (https://phys.org/news/2018-03-evidence-star-disturbed-prehistory-solar.html)

Phys Org (https://phys.org/news/2018-03-evidence-star-disturbed-prehistory-solar.html)
Wed, 21 Mar 2018 18:43 UTC


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At a time when modern humans were beginning to leave Africa and the Neanderthals were living on our planet, Scholz's star approached less than a light-year. © José A. Peñas/SINC


About 70,000 years ago, during human occupation of the planet, a small, reddish star approached our solar system and gravitationally disturbed comets and asteroids. Astronomers from the Complutense University of Madrid and the University of Cambridge have verified that the movement of some of these objects is still marked by that stellar encounter.

At a time when modern humans were beginning to leave Africa and the Neanderthals still thrived, Scholz's star-named after the German astronomer who discovered it-approached less than a light-year from the sun. Today, it is almost 20 light-years away, but 70,000 years ago, it entered the Oort cloud, a reservoir of trans-Neptunian objects located at the confines of the solar system.

This discovery was made public in 2015 by a team of astronomers led by Professor Eric Mamajek of the University of Rochester (USA). The details of that stellar flyby, the closest documented so far, were presented in The Astrophysical Journal Letters.

Now, two astronomers from the Complutense University of Madrid, the brothers Carlos and Raúl de la Fuente Marcos, together with the researcher Sverre J. Aarseth of the University of Cambridge (United Kingdom), have analyzed for the first time nearly 340 solar system objects with hyperbolic orbits (very open V-shaped, rather than elliptical) They have concluded that the trajectories of some of these were influenced by the passage of Scholz's star.

"Using numerical simulations, we have calculated the radiants or positions in the sky from which all these hyperbolic objects seem to come," explains Carlos de la Fuente Marcos, a co-author of the study now published in Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society.
"In principle," he adds, "one would expect those positions to be evenly distributed in the sky, particularly if these objects come from the Oort cloud. However, what we find is very different-a statistically significant accumulation of radiants. The pronounced over-density appears projected in the direction of the constellation of Gemini, which fits the close encounter with Scholz's star."
The period in which this star passed through the Oort Cloud and its position during prehistory coincide with the data of the new investigation and in those of Mamajek and his team. "It could be a coincidence, but it is unlikely that both location and time are compatible," says De la Fuente Marcos, who points out that their simulations suggest that Scholz's star approached even more than the 0.6 light-years pointed out in the 2015 study as the lower limit.

The close fly-by of this star 70,000 years ago did not disturb all the hyperbolic objects of the solar system, only those that were closest to it at that time.
"For example, the radiant of the famous interstellar asteroid 'Oumuamua is in the constellation of Lyra (the Harp), very far from Gemini, therefore it is not part of the detected over-density," says De la Fuente Marcos.
He is confident that new studies and observations will confirm the idea that a star passed close to us in a relatively recent period.

Scholz's star is actually a binary system formed by a small red dwarf with about 9 percent of the mass of the sun, around which a much less bright and smaller brown dwarf orbits. It is likely that human ancestors saw its faint reddish light during prehistorical nights.

More information: Carlos de la Fuente Marcos et al. Where the Solar system meets the solar neighbourhood: patterns in the distribution of radiants of observed hyperbolic minor bodies, Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society: Letters (2018). DOI: 10.1093/mnrasl/sly019 (http://dx.doi.org/10.1093/mnrasl/sly019)


Also posted (here) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=1215700#post1215700) (<---)
(http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=1215700#post1215700)

Ewan
22nd March 2018, 17:45
Love it when old threads like this get bumped, had no idea it was here. Bookmarked for later reading. :)

Hervé
3rd August 2018, 16:55
...


Wait for it...


TA-DAAAH!


Here it is:


Mysterious gigantic rogue planet seen moving outside our solar system (https://www.rt.com/news/435044-rogue-planet-astronomers-radio/)

RT (https://www.rt.com/news/435044-rogue-planet-astronomers-radio/)
Fri, 03 Aug 2018 14:54 UTC


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Artist's impression of the enormous object known as SIMP J01365663+0933473 © Chuck Carter, NRAO/AUI/NSF


A mysterious large object is floating around outside our solar system and researchers aren't sure exactly what it is - although it could be a rogue planet.

In the first radio-telescope detection of a planetary-mass object beyond our solar system, astronomers have found the strange celestial body has 12.7 times the mass of Jupiter. It doesn't appear to orbit a parent star, however, and is only 20 light-years away from Earth.
"This object is right at the boundary between a planet and a brown dwarf, or 'failed star,' and is giving us some surprises that can potentially help us understand magnetic processes on both stars and planets," study lead astronomer Melodie Kao said (https://public.nrao.edu/news/planetary-mass-powerhouse/).
A brown dwarf is an object too large to be a planet, but isn't big enough to sustain the nuclear fusion of hydrogen in its core that is vital to stars.

The object, which has been named SIMP J01365663+0933473, was first detected in 2016, but was thought to be a brown dwarf. The latest data reveals it's younger than first thought at a relatively youthful 200 million years old, and its mass is smaller, so it could be classified as a planet. Its temperature is also far cooler than the sun, at 825 degrees Celsius. It also has a strong magnetic field, 200 times the strength of Jupiter.

The researchers were able to pick up on the object's magnetic activity using a powerful radio astronomy observatory called the Very Large Array, a National Science Foundation facility in New Mexico.

The methods used suggest the researchers may have "a new way of detecting exoplanets, including the elusive rogue ones not orbiting a parent star," researcher Gregg Hallinan said.

Bill Ryan
3rd August 2018, 17:21
...and is only 20 light-years away from Earth.

Yes... but that's 4.5 times more distant than Alpha Centauri. It's a very interesting neighbor, but it's nothing to do with our own solar system. (Which is kind of a shame! :) )

Hervé
4th August 2018, 14:55
...and is only 20 light-years away from Earth.

Yes... but that's 4.5 times more distant than Alpha Centauri. It's a very interesting neighbor, but it's nothing to do with our own solar system. (Which is kind of a shame! :) )
Right... back to cosmic watch...

Nonetheless, what can be retained from the discovery:


Such bizarre planetoid/Brown Dwarf objects do exist in our vicinity
The detection of such object can be done via their magnetic signature/disturbance

Considering the apparent influence of the Sirius system (8.6 light years away) on Earth's speed of rotation (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?76790-How-Come-Gravity-Doesn-t-Give-A-Hoot-About-Weight&p=902661&viewfull=1#post902661), there may be something about that "Electric Universe."

Hervé
3rd October 2018, 15:13
"The Goblin": New, distant dwarf planet bolsters evidence for "Planet X" (https://www.space.com/41995-dwarf-planet-the-goblin-discovery-planet-nine.html)

Mike Wall, Space.com (https://www.space.com/41995-dwarf-planet-the-goblin-discovery-planet-nine.html)
Wed, 03 Oct 2018 08:24 UTC


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The orbits of the newfound extreme dwarf planet 2015 TG387 and its fellow Inner Oort Cloud objects 2012 VP113 and Sedna, as compared with the rest of the solar system. © Roberto Molar Candanosa and Scott Sheppard, courtesy of Carnegie Institution for Science


Scientists have discovered yet another marker on the trail toward the putative Planet Nine (https://www.space.com/31671-planet-nine-discovery-explained-infographic.html).

That clue is 2015 TG387, a newfound object in the far outer solar system, way beyond Pluto. The orbit of 2015 TG387 shares peculiarities with those of other extremely far-flung bodies (https://www.space.com/37477-planet-nine-existence-new-evidence.html), which appear to have been shaped by the gravity of a very large object in that distant, frigid realm - the hypothesized Planet Nine, also known as Planet X.

"These distant objects are like breadcrumbs leading us to Planet X," study leader Scott Sheppard, of the Carnegie Institution for Science in Washington, D.C., said in a statement.

"The more of them we can find, the better we can understand the outer solar system and the possible planet that we think is shaping their orbits - a discovery that would redefine our knowledge of the solar system's evolution," he added.

And 2015 TG387 is special among these bread crumbs, because it was found during a relatively uniform survey of the northern and southern skies rather than a targeted hunt for clustered objects in certain parts of the sky, Sheppard said. Targeted hunts can produce biased results (https://www.space.com/36561-minor-planet-beyond-neptune-and-planet-nine.html) - for example, the appearance of clustering where none may actually exist, he explained.


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The discovery images of 2015 TG387 taken at the Subaru 8-meter telescope located atop Mauna Kea in Hawaii on October 13, 2015. The images were taken about 3 hours apart. 2015 TG387 can be seen moving between images near the center while the much more distant stars and galaxies are stationary. © Scott Sheppard


2015 TG387 has two dwarf-planet companions in the low-bias class, Sheppard said: 2012 VP113, which he and his colleague Chadwick Trujillo (who's a co-author of the new paper as well) spotted in 2014 as part of the same, ongoing long-term survey; and the relatively bright Sedna (https://www.space.com/25695-sedna-dwarf-planet.html) (because the whole sky has been searched to its level of brightness).

"And then if you bring in some of the other extreme objects - several of them were found in our survey as well," Sheppard told Space.com. "The statistics get better and better that this planet is likely out there."

Sheppard and his colleagues first spotted 2015 TG387 in October 2015, using Japan's 26-foot (8 meters) Subaru telescope atop the volcanic peak Mauna Kea in Hawaii. The researchers nicknamed the object "The Goblin," because of the discovery date and the "TG" in the provisional designation.

It took the team three additional years to nail down The Goblin's orbit, which they did with the aid of observations by the Las Campanas Observatory in Chile and the Discovery Channel Telescope in Arizona.

2015 TG387 loops around the sun on an extremely elliptical path, coming within about 65 astronomical units (AU) of the sun at its closest point (known as perihelion) and getting about 2,300 AU away at its most distant (aphelion).

One AU is the average Earth-sun distance - about 93 million miles (150 million kilometers). So 2015 TG387 is way, way out there. Indeed, it takes about 40,000 Earth years for the newfound object to complete one lap around the sun.


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An artist’s illustration of the hypothesized but undiscovered Planet X, which could be shaping the orbits of smaller extremely distant outer solar system objects like 2015 TG387. © Roberto Molar Candanosa and Scott Sheppard, courtesy of Carnegie Institution for Science


Only two known solar system bodies have more-distant perihelia than The Goblin does (2012 VP113 and Sedna), and only one (2014 FE72) has a greater aphelion distance. (For perspective: Pluto (https://www.space.com/43-pluto-the-ninth-planet-that-was-a-dwarf.html) never gets closer to the sun than 29.7 AU, or farther away than 49.3 AU.)

Sheppard and his colleagues think 2015 TG387 is about 186 miles (300 km) wide and probably spherical, in which case it would qualify as a dwarf planet (https://www.space.com/15216-dwarf-planets-facts-solar-system-sdcmp.html). But that's all they can really say about The Goblin's physical characteristics.

"It's pretty faint, so we can really just see that it's there," Sheppard told Space.com. "We don't even know the color of the object; we haven't gotten any spectroscopy on the object yet, or anything like that."

(The 186-mile diameter is not a measurement but rather an estimate, assuming a "moderate" reflectiveness for 2015 TG387.)

But going back to the orbit: The Goblin's is similar in key ways to those of some other extremely distant bodies - particularly in an element called "longitude of perihelion." Basically, the elongated parts of their elliptical orbits are clustered in the same part of the sky, which is consistent with gravitational shepherding by Planet X.

The existence of Planet X was first seriously proposed in 2014 by Sheppard and Trujillo (https://www.space.com/25218-dwarf-planet-discovery-solar-system-edge.html), to potentially explain oddities in the orbits of 2012 VP113, Sedna and a few other trans-Neptunian objects.

In 2016, astronomers Konstantin Batygin and Mike Brown presented more evidence for such an unseen "perturber," which they called Planet Nine (https://www.space.com/31670-planet-nine-solar-system-discovery.html). Batygin and Brown have suggested that this world may be about 10 times more massive than Earth and orbit about 600 AU from the sun on average.

In the new study, the researchers also performed computer simulations to test how Planet X's gravitational tug might influence the orbit of The Goblin. They found significant shepherding akin to that inferred for other distant objects - and determined that 2015 TG387's orbit remains stable for the age of the solar system nonetheless.

"What makes this result really interesting is that Planet X seems to affect 2015 TG387 the same way as all the other extremely distant solar system objects," Trujillo, who's based at Northern Arizona University, said in the same statement. "These simulations do not prove that there's another massive planet in our solar system, but they are further evidence that something big could be out there."

Sheppard puts the odds of Planet X's existence at around 85 percent. And he says it's not at all surprising that astronomers haven't spotted it yet.

"Where we think the planet is - hundreds of AU away, if not 1,000 AU - something even as big as Neptune would be fainter than most telescopes could see," Sheppard told Space.com. (In case this sounds odd or incongruous: The Goblin was discovered near perihelion, at about 80 AU from the sun.)

"And most of our surveys to date do not go that faint, do not go that deep. We've covered very little of the sky to the depth that's needed to be covered to find something this faint," he added. "You can hide a very big thing in the outer solar system very easily."
The paper describing the discovery of 2015 TG387 has been submitted to The Astronomical Journal.

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