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MariaDine
22nd September 2010, 14:51
SO MANY POSSIBLE ALTERNATIVE -PATHS - MAKE PEOPLE HEAD SPIN :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAo70VmdTe8&feature=player_embedded#!

Kulapops
22nd September 2010, 17:40
2050 ... ? I'll be 81.

That's my prediction.

:)

Victoria Tintagel
1st October 2010, 07:28
Theme from Time Sir Laurence Olivier in the musical Time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38qJLMkvBlE


Hey dear Avalonians! Here are a few links that shine a light on the meaning of 2012, although we will know what that means while living through it and look back on it, later wherever and however we are. Living in trees, maybe :)? I believe we are LIVING IT on this moment, the changes, the shifts, the transformations, you name it......old paradigms left behind, no rules, we invent them ourselves, empty stage.....waiting for you and me..........as many have said, it's not a specific date, like the twenty first of December 2012. It is a window of time, really! The ancient Maya speak about the End of Time: it's the end of time as we know it. Hunab K'u, the center of this Galaxy, means the Center of Measure and Movement. The Maya simply knew.......

We've got to stop waiting for revelations and a saviour :) cause we are the creators, we only have to remember, while still in the physical body.
Ascension isn't leaving this Earth plane necessarily, it's a change of perception inside. Like above, so below. We are descending into our connection with Mother Earth and bring her to her bridegroom Heaven....they both are very much quarreling about the marriage vows at the moment. So let's tickle them and make them laugh, come on.....even the most advanced beings need a wake up call sometimes .......the Big Bang was the first....now it's Party Time :) Tint.

Here's Jose Arguelles in his lecture Signs......
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6176241165183087813&hl=en#

The Chilam Balam
http://www.sacred-texts.com/nam/maya/cbc/index.htm

The Awakening of Teotiwakan
http://2012rising.com/article/the-awakening-of-teotiwakan

Etherios
1st October 2010, 12:09
i dont like this guy ... i am not feeling well what he is saying... for starters i didnt finish all the video :-( i am sorry but i just didnt feel like doing so :-(
this doesnt happen to me often... weird.

Anyway he kept repeating "forgiveness" tho i know that this is a very positive feeling it kept hitting me that we have to forgive but not forget. The hole speach seemed liek it was talking about another world/timeline. The weather isnt going bad because of the emissions... how come the Down Jones go to 100k but the US dollar will loose its power???

It didnt connect to me ... i am sorry. (i stoped around 10 mins )

Victoria Tintagel
2nd October 2010, 12:16
Yeahh, that is entirely okay Etherios, no sorries okay? This is a freedom of speech Forum. Jose Arguelles is an initiate and wizard of the old style, he holds his heart with love in a very peculiar way, as I feel it. He can be in very abstract worlds, as his books show, can't read them myself. Sends me off to nowhere. I have been in resistance towards him about 13 years ago, as he hadn't opened his heart so much as now, in this video presentation. This shows that it's always a matter of perspective and perception, depending where we come from, hmmmmm?
Blessed be, I am in love and joy, Tint.

THIRDEYE
2nd October 2010, 12:41
i found this video vague and vapid i did alittle research on gary hes not very established so i take what he says with a grain of salt lol:)
love light and abundance thirdeye

fifi
2nd October 2010, 14:22
Hi Tint, thanks for posting the link about "The Awakening of Teotiwakan". It's a very interesting story.

zenith
2nd October 2010, 15:45
I predict people will continue to make predictions that don't come true. :)

Lost Soul
2nd October 2010, 19:38
I predict people will continue to make predictions that don't come true. :)

Darn but I would say zenith's prediction is something you can bet money on.

Scott
9th October 2010, 22:16
So many different outlooks on 2012.
I predict 2012 will be the year between 2011 & 2013 ....TADA!!!!
This guy is cool to listen to I thought :)

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MariaDine
10th October 2010, 00:47
2012 is not the end of Time. But it will be the end of time for fake gurus. People, us, we all will have to connect directly to the heart where resides the Energy.

About the video I posted...it was a piece for «thought»..........to realize/understand that we create as we think........so the reponsability for the FUTURE is only ours. Free Will versus Responsability. In other words...beware what you wish/think....it may come to pass.....NOW.

Namasté
MD

MariaDine
10th October 2010, 00:51
Aztar, great video ! Thanks :)
Om Shanti

tazjet
11th October 2010, 19:22
I suppose the thing to bear in mind is that 2012 was not the end of the Mayan civilisation. That had long passed it's zennith when Cortez arrived on the shores of Yucatan Peninsula in Feb 1519. The Mayan calandar did however predict his arrival as the return of Quetzalcoatl.

It may be fair to suggest that subsequent to 1519 the calandar was of little more relevance and so 2012 may be nothing more than the end of an era.

Obviosly if it accompanies an astrological alignment signifying change and transition then that will happen, but it doesn't represent an end. It just represents a period beyond which the Mayan calandar makes no further predictions. That is my take of it.

Loren
11th October 2010, 22:17
More interesting truths and as truths go timing is everything.You only absorb what is meant for you at that moment. All these fantastic ancient predictions I feel so fortunate to be alive to witness these events that so many generations could only ponder, we get to actually live through it . Wonderful.

Merkaba360
10th December 2010, 17:23
Here's what i don't get. You get all these channelers, visionaries, etc. seeing all these predictive futures. These abilities extend into the multidimensional realities. Why do they assume this info is going to become manifest in this reality.

It just seems they get so excited and sucked into their wild ride the ego wants to go Hey, listen to my story. Now they get to present it to the world and they are a messenger to give us the news! lol

Everything is in flux. So collective predicitions are extremely hard. I just think the predictors need to admit this is just their vision and don't take me so seriously. And the critics can back off too, since nobody is announcing their vision is true, just an offering of a possibility. I see stubborness on both sides. Besides, its just a ride :)

shiva777
10th December 2010, 18:20
The Hidden Human Dilemma, "Channels," Earth Extinctions,

2012 & the Planetary Encryption Lattice

Re-evolution into conscious-wholeness "Stardust" spirit through energetic
self-accretion, or de-evolution into unconscious-fragmentation "space-dust"
spirit through energetic self-annihilation…THIS is the question that lies at the
heart of the contemporary human dilemma. As a result of the events from the
ancient Atlantean period, most of Earth's populations continue along their path
of unconscious "Sleeper" evolution, unaware of the consequential realities of
Encryption Lattice BPR alignment — or of the impact their personal and
collective belief systems have upon the personal and collective Encryption
Lattice BPR. Meanwhile, the majority of those whom are "awakening" do not
realize they have equally become "caught within a carefully laid web of
deception" called the "New Age" movement, in which the "great joys of Awakening,
Enlightenment and Empowerment" are being heralded from within the teaching
paradigms of the "Bloom of Doom" Metatronic Death Science Code. And through this
glossy-web of deception called the "NET," the majority of the awakening
populations are being used intentionally and covertly as tools by the "fallen
ET-angels and Descended Masters," who are "guiding" them into fulfilling the
Illuminati Master Plan agenda.

Presently, the "Great White Hope" of the awakening New Age population has been
"plugged-in" to the "Illuminati NET-Broadcasting station," through which its
"channeled material" comes; it is no "coincidence" that the information so many
of the channels receive is complementary. Mostly ALL of this material leads us
back to the absolute falsehood that "all of humanity was created as an ancient
primate-hybrid slave-race by the ancient Anunnaki," and thus we should be glad
to view ourselves today as their "children." This twisted history, along with
other falsehoods pertaining to the "Christ Story" and various other periods of
ancient historical significance, is an intentionally contrived false ET–Raider
Race history currently being "beamed in" from the Illuminati NET, precisely to
keep us from remembering or discovering the powerful truth and current
potentials of our genuine Angelic Human heritage.

The "Anunnaki" history of which so many "channels" now speak represents a
partial truth that applies only to the descendants of the Illuminati
Anu-Leviathan hybrid lines, whose genome was blended with that of the Angelic
Human during the ancient Atlantean period. Genuine "Angelics" and "Ascended
Ones" DO exist, but because of the electromagnetic quarantine of the Illuminati
Broadcast NET, it is almost impossible to "reach them" from Earth without
specialized methods of protected multidimensional communication (that DO NOT
involve channeling). There is a "Grand Design" behind what is being orchestrated
by the Illuminati through the "NET-Broadcast channeling movement"; the NET has
functionally operated for about 13,000 years through intentionally laid
distortions within Earth's geomagnetic field. Throughout "known" history, the
"channels" have been slowly but progressively "awakened" — "Metatronic-style" —
for many thousands of years, each "bringing in pieces" of the often-competing
versions of the Illuminati NET-Broadcast story. The Illuminati Broadcast NET has
been, through the ages, instrumental in "seeding disinformation" into various
bodies of "Sacred Doctrines," which have culminated in the formation of the
traditional "mass control dogmas" of both religion and science that are still to
this day the "guiding force" of the "collective human psyche." As the
long-awaited "2012 Time of Grand Significance" approaches, a global fleet of
many "new channels" has "awakened," and now, three years before the long-awaited
"Grand Illuminati 2012-Event," the "collective NET-Broadcast stories of the
historical and contemporary channels" are coalescing into a "complementary,
believably cohesive platform of false unified history" to which masses of
"awakening humans" currently subscribe.

When the events of history and contemporary times are viewed with an
understanding of the function of Encryption Lattices, and their direct role in
creating "evolutionary path alignments" through the reality of BPR Co-resonance,
it can be understood that "specific mass beliefs" create corresponding "specific
contours and geometrical-mathematical patterns" within the collective "Species
Encryption Lattice," and resultantly within the Planetary Encryption Lattice,
all of which directly affects the core BPR alignment of the planet, and thus the
planet's evolutionary path alignment.

Neither our remembered nor our forgotten history has unfolded by accident — it
has been covertly, meticulously, and patiently orchestrated through off-planet
Illuminati-Elder "Raider Races," and the unwitting, manipulated, power-hungry,
and equally-amnesiac earthly Illuminati-Human "children" genetic-lines that
these Elders created in Atlantis as an intended "expendable quantum resource"
through which to fulfill their "End Times Master Plan." It is precisely this
ancestry from which the current Illuminati-Human genetic line has emerged, and
though these "ET-hybrid-human collectives" appear to be (especially to
themselves) "covertly running the global show," they are in truth being as badly
manipulated, deceived and disempowered by their Illuminati-Elders, as general
human populations have been by the Illuminati-Humans. What the Illuminati-Elders
have failed to reveal to their "children" is that from the inception of their
"Grand Master Plan" in Atlantis, they never intended to "save their
hybrid-children" when they orchestrate Earth's "Final Extinction Event" at the
height of fulfillment of their "Illuminati Master Plan." This is the "Big
Secret" that is not even being revealed through contemporary primary Illuminati
NET-Broadcasts.

The "5 Mass Extinction Events" that have historically occurred on Earth
(approximately 446 million years ago [MYA]; 364 MYA; 252 MYA [the largest]; 200
MYA [TJ Event]; and 65 MYA [KT Event]), were NOT "happenstance occurrences that
resulted from organic environmental conditions"; these events were deliberately
and specifically purposed extermination events orchestrated by competing
Illuminati-Elder race ET-groups, as part of their long-running battle over
"Earth Templar Star-Gate dominion." All of these "extermination events" took
place prior to Angelic Human 1st-Seeding 25 MYA, and all were created in order
to change the mathematical–geometrical patterns of Earth's core Encryption
Lattice morphogenetic field, by removing the Encryption Lattices of "undesired
life-forms" from the Encryption Lattice of Earth's collective life-field.

The technologies by which such enormous effects can be generated are the product
of "Bloom of Doom" Metatronic Death Science applications. During the Atlantean
periods of 13,400 BC (about 15,000 years ago) and 10,948 BC (about 13,000 years
ago), these pre-ancient Metatronic Death Science technologies were once again
slowly but progressively re-awakened to serve an instrumental role in the
Illuminati Master Plan agenda. (New information on the 13,400 BC and 10,948 BC
Atlantean periods and the "precession of the equinoxes," Illuminati Master Plan
and 2012 is found in Introductory-Topics Summary-1; further information on the
history of the Illuminati Master Plan and Atlantis is found in Voyagers
Volume-2, 2nd Edition, and throughout MCEO Freedom Teachings® workshop DVD
programs.
The Big Game, the Show, Pertinent Questions and the Silver Seed Awakening

Dear People, the "2012 Mass BPR Showdown" is on; are we going to pull up a
chair, grab a bowl of pop corn, and "just watch the show unfold"? Or are we
going to make an effort to achieve some conscious control over our personal
evolutionary destinies? The choice is fully up to each individual, and the MCEO
humbly respects whatever your free will choice might be. Sadly, most human
populations do not even realize that the "show has been released into the
theater," and so will continue to move forward within the "Atlantean Waking
Dream" of long ago, from which we all emerged. For those of us who still care
about our personal evolutionary destinies, positive, love-based, joy-filled
things can be done in preparation for, and following 2012, which will provide
the opportunity for us to SHIFT ourselves into a more desirable evolutionary
alignment than that of the "Path of Fall," with which the primary quanta of
Earth are now engaged due to the 66% quantum alignment of Earth's Planetary
Encryption Lattice, and geomagnetic field, to the Metatronic Code. Earth's
current predicament "begs a host of questions," that the MCEO Guardians can now
begin to address:



Will Earth's current "SAC `Ascension Cycle' Star-Gate opening period" continue?
Yes, but with extensive modifications, which will be progressively addressed in
coming MCEO teachings. In 2003 Earth's Halls of Amenti Star-Gate System fell to
Metatronic Illuminati control; the MCEO Guardians' efforts to rehabilitate the
Amenti Gates failed by the end of 2003. And thus the Encryption Lattice of
Earth's Amenti Star-Gates no longer aligns with the organic Ascension Passages
of the Living Cosmos, but rather aligns with the Metatronic wormhole structures
that interface with the fallen Parallel Earth–Parallel Milky Way Black Hole
System.

With the fall of the Amenti Gates in 2003, the MCEO Guardians have progressively
activated a very ancient network of trans-dimensional Earth Interface Star-Gates
which include the "Arc of the Covenant–Hub Gate Network," the "Polarian Gate
System," and the "Na-VA'-Ho Spanner Core Gate System," which together, in 2012,
will allow for the opening of the "Aurora Silver Seed Gates," through which
Earth's Templar can retain direct connection to the Living Cosmic Templar
Ascension Passages, despite the Illuminati's scheduled 2012 opening of the
Fall-aligned Parallel Alpha-Omega Gates into Earth's captured Halls of Amenti
Star-Gate system. Through opening of the Aurora Silver Seed Gates, Earth's Arc
of the Covenant, Polarian and Na-VA'-Ho Spanner Core Gate Networks will fully
open in 2012, keeping the potentials of Genuine Eternal Life Ascension viable on
Earth during the current SAC.



Why did Illuminati-Elders schedule the fulfillment of their Master Plan Prime
Objective for 2012 AD?
In 22,326 BC the Illuminati Earth Templar Quest ended in a "stalemate" between
Guardian and Illuminati races. Since that time, both groups knew that the
"Templar Conflict Drama Showdown" would occur during the next SAC Star-Gate
opening period, as the Illuminati Force required Earth's Halls of Amenti
Star-Gates to be open in order to fulfill their agenda of using inorganic
Metatronic wormhole structures to "blend the Encryption Lattice of Earth's
Templar with that of the fallen Parallel Milky Way Galaxy." Earth's next SAC was
not due until 4230 AD, but the Metatronic Fall Gate artificial wormhole
structures of the Parallel Milky Way Galaxy and Parallel Earth were due to open
in our time equivalent of 2012 AD.

In the 13,400 BC and 10,948 BC Earth Atlantean periods, the Illuminati Force
succeeded in orchestrating two inorganic accelerations of Earth's "wobble,"
"precession of the equinox" cycle and Encryption Lattice. These accelerations
caused an inorganic time-acceleration within portions of Earth's Templar and
Halls of Amenti Star-Gate system, which would cause Earth's Halls of Amenti
Star-Gates to open prematurely in the 2012–2013 AD period, for Encryption
Lattice blending with the opened Fall Gate Cycle of the Parallel Milky Way Black
Hole System. Earth's Amenti Gates would open in this period only if there were a
sufficient number of Illuminati-Human hybrid races on Earth to "run the
bio-electronic Amenti Gate Codes" into Earth's Templar during this "Parallel
Gate Alignment." The Illuminati Parallel Gate Alignment is called the
"Alpha-Omega Alignment," which occurs between October 2012 and February 2013,
with peak alignment on December 21, 2012.


continued here

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/prepare4contact/message/61376


if you aren't the reading type then here is a good video series to get a heads up around the game being played here and it's 2012 involvement

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Dk-oZG7ipk&feature=related

The One
14th December 2010, 14:39
My prediction on 21-12-12 i will be going fishing. I’d suggest that we all just get on with life and let go of the fear that surrounds these near mystical dates. And remember this – human calenders are all arbitrary systems based on cyclical orbits of the sun and the moon. Any numerological significance is man made and has nothing to do with real events. 2011 (or 2012) is neither about the end of the world or the beginning of a new world. It is not about apocalypse or rebirth or coming into the 5th dimension or any other crazy periods of rapture or hell. It is simply about a period of change

Merkaba360
16th December 2010, 00:37
My prediction on 21-12-12 i will be going fishing. I’d suggest that we all just get on with life and let go of the fear that surrounds these near mystical dates. And remember this – human calenders are all arbitrary systems based on cyclical orbits of the sun and the moon. Any numerological significance is man made and has nothing to do with real events. 2011 (or 2012) is neither about the end of the world or the beginning of a new world. It is not about apocalypse or rebirth or coming into the 5th dimension or any other crazy periods of rapture or hell. It is simply about a period of change


yea but look at history. So much is exponentially exploding like a climax to a movie. Who cares about calendars. doesn't it seem things are going to get hella interesting? I dont know how long the crazy expansion will go, but maybe that is just it. An accelerating in expansion. Seems like these interesting times deserve a special celebration on the calendar :)

The One
16th December 2010, 09:04
Hey Merkaba things are getting interesting and you are spot on with accelerating in expansion have a look at the post below about time acceleration i posted back in November.

Time acceleration

Our past is who we have been, and the future is fundamental to imagining who we will become. However, in order to have either past or future we need a stable present, the space of our everyday lives. We do all have personal and collective pasts, and can imagine individual and collective futures, is central to whatever it means, as humans, to be who or what we are. Most human beings experience themselves in a taken for granted present tense as relatively unitary and stable entities. If we are to conceptualise identity as something other than reification, a fixed thing, some kind of stable present is required,. I am also aware time is accelerating at a fast rate (My opinion) Not only is accelerating change putting us under stress, it is also putting increasing pressure on the planet. Looking back over history it is clear that acceleration is not just a twentieth-century phenomenon whether or not humanity actually reaches this point of unimaginably rapid progress i will probably be long gone before i can answer that question. What is clear is that a trend that has been going on for billions of years is going to come to an end one day. The world around us changes so fast, the more we are forced to let go of any cozy notions we might have of what the future will be like. No one today can predict with any degree of certainty how things will be in a year’s time, or even six months’ time. When global stockmarkets can crash without warning, political walls crumble overnight, countries invade each other in a day, and ecological disasters shatter our illusions of control, we are forced more and more to live in the present.

To live with continued acceleration and all it brings will take more than simply learning to manage better. It will involve a complete revision of our thinking about who we are, what we really want, and what life is all about. Hardly the most startling statement. As most of us are only too aware, change comes more and more rapidly. Technological breakthroughs spread through society in years rather than centuries. Calculations that would have taken decades are now made in minutes. Communication that used to take months happens in seconds. Development in every area is happening more and more rapidly.

Hope you enjoy this thread as i am now in the future and this is in the past.