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Spirithorse
11th April 2013, 23:11
TED talk about the intelligence of crows, very interesting and quite funny, actually.


http://www.ted.com/talks/joshua_klein_on_the_intelligence_of_crows.html

For some reason I can't upload the video preview but the link should be working.

Tesla_WTC_Solution
11th April 2013, 23:22
I really love crows and find it a bit strange that they came up at a tech conference, lol!

Maybe they set the tone for the next big "networking" thing?

At any rate they seem more intelligent than most of the capitalists who attend such meetings.

music
11th April 2013, 23:25
Crows are pretty smart, for sure. Most birds with large, powerful beaks are. Parrots, for example, when they developed powerful jaws, the extra bone formation that evolved on the skull for muscle attachment meant an expanded cranial space, and we all know nature abhors a vacuum. Not all birds are super smart, but there are definately some bird families that are, and some that aren't. "Carniverous" birds seem to be generally fairly bright, and I have had experiences of intelligent exchanges and communication with many different kinds of wild bird. The Australian magpie has a "language", set calls for standard concepts like "danger", "food here", "get lost, that grub is mine", etc., each family member has a "name", and as we travel through the wide area of their distribution we discover that while most of the "words" are common to all, there are variations in pronunciation (accent), and in different regions one or two words are replaced with a word that appears in no other region (dialect words). I can't do youtube btw, so unfortunately can't watch the video, but thanks for posting the link. The crow is also a pretty good representation of one aspect of the Trickster archetype, and I have seen a crow intentionally nearly make someone run off the road.

WhiteFeather
11th April 2013, 23:45
Yes IMO... they are one of the smartest animals on this planet as well as the dolphin. Im truly fascinated with crows myself. Enjoy these videos. Great Post OP. Asquali ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dWw9GLcOeA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfI5-RWC-QQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqLU-o7N7Kw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JiJzqXxgxo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGV1eQxoYaY

Caren
11th April 2013, 23:59
I love crows and enjoy having them around. They are devoted parents, highly intelligent and quite entertaining at times.

johnf
12th April 2013, 00:00
Maybe we can train them to bother globalists like they did to the students that captured and tested them.
They are after all intelligent flying reptiles while the former are ground dwelling reptiles, I think they deserve each other.
The behavior that he described concerning the students sounds like version of the predator harassment routine that various birds engage in, where they dive bomb red tail hawks etc. Nothing is more hilarious than watching a tiny hummingbird dive bomb a huge red tail hawk till it flies off and finds another perch. I have seen crows and scrub jays do this as well.

WhiteFeather
12th April 2013, 00:04
TED talk about the intelligence of crows, very interesting and quite funny, actually.


http://www.ted.com/talks/joshua_klein_on_the_intelligence_of_crows.html

For some reason I can't upload the video preview but the link should be working.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXQAgzfwuNQ

GaelVictor
12th April 2013, 00:34
Crows are the smartest among the bird species, they know however, unlike dolphins, elephants or large apes, no love & compassion or remorse.
They're stone cold intelligence, almost computer like. Their little brains are extremely effectively wired, packed with the knowledge of millions of years of dinosaur survival.
You have to respect that.

WhiteFeather
12th April 2013, 00:54
Crows are the smartest among the bird species, they know however, unlike dolphins, elephants or large apes, no love & compassion or remorse.
They're stone cold intelligence, almost computer like. Their little brains are extremely effectively wired, packed with the knowledge of millions of years of dinosaur survival.
You have to respect that.

Then you may have not watched the crow and kitten video i posted above. If you have not, give it a gander. It may change your perspective about crows having compassion and perhaps love.

Here....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JiJzqXxgxo

Zelig
12th April 2013, 00:55
It seems as though humans' ability to recognize intelligence is limited by our usage of ourselves as the benchmark. I really believe that a lot of creatures are much more brilliant than we realize because of our inability to comprehend the nature of their intelligence. For instance, the crow is capable of remembering a specific human that was a threat and somehow their offspring inherit this knowledge without ever having seen this person on their own. That alone is bewildering and humbling. I remember seeing a quarter-mile stretch of road with crows perched side-by-side on the phone/power lines and I wondered what on earth was going on. They were all silently looking down and eventually I realized that there was a dead crow on the road that they all seemed to be mourning.

Hervé
12th April 2013, 01:35
Maybe we can train them to bother globalists ...



See this thread for a good chuckle: Eywa has had enough! (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?56187-Eywa-has-had-enough-)

Hervé
12th April 2013, 01:48
From the Gypsy tradition that drew from observing animals and how they survive, observation of crow tribes found out that when a crow is ousted from the tribe due to some "crow-crime;" the one ousted flies as high as possible then folds its wings and drops to the ground like a stone...

Castaneda also had a lot of incentive to watch crows from his mentor Don Juan...

Rich
12th April 2013, 01:59
crow tries to eat the little duckies
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Poly Hedra
12th April 2013, 02:19
I love this clip, they use the city environment to their advantage. They've learned to crack nuts they can't get to, station themselves by zebra crossings and wait for the green man!!! Gotta love em!

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"Watch John Marzluff, author of GIFTS OF THE CROW, demonstrate crows recognizing human faces. From the film "A Murder of Crows" by Susan Flemming, photography by Keith Brust.

Get more on John Marzluff at SimonandSchuster.com: http://authors.simonandschuster.com"

GaelVictor
12th April 2013, 02:23
WhiteFeather;''Then you may have not watched the crow and kitten video i posted above. If you have not, give it a gander. It may change your perspective about crows having compassion and perhaps love.

Here...''


Nice vid WhiteFeather, you would appear to have a point but i think it's projecting our own capacity for love, friendship and compassion on the mostly instinctive behaviour of these animals so they appear to have the same capacity, which they, i'm sure, don't have or in embryonic state only.
There may however be some other thing going on here that characterizes all forms of highly organized life, especially when they operate in groups; they begin to show signs of a higher level of awareness. This seems to be applicable to the black crow. They have an amazing ability to solve problems that only large brained mammals are supposed to be able to do, which seems to suggest the crows can tap into their specific morphogenetic field of information, which due to it's millions of years of development is top notch and they do it very effectively.

I had a european black crow friend when i was a teenager, he flew down and sat on my shoulders, he liked shiny things and especially loved whipped cream. A very gentile yet impressive being.

Kimberley
12th April 2013, 04:38
Oh YES!! Crows are the best!!! I have many crow stories to share..however I need to go to sleep now.. I will do my best to add to this thread my crow stories!!

Long live the crows!! Long live us all!!

Much love and peace to us all!!! :grouphug: :peace:

sheme
12th April 2013, 09:42
Crows I can live without too many song birds chicks are killed by them, Jackdaws are another matter the true kings of the Corvids.

soleil
12th April 2013, 16:27
Yes IMO... they are one of the smartest animals on this planet as well as the dolphin. Im truly fascinated with crows myself. Enjoy these videos. Great Post OP. Asquali ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dWw9GLcOeA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfI5-RWC-QQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqLU-o7N7Kw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JiJzqXxgxo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGV1eQxoYaY

AMAZING, i had no idea. :) well, i had an idea, but seeing is believing!

Vangelo
12th April 2013, 19:24
There is a great Aesop fable called the Crow and the Pitcher that illustrates the intelligence of crows. The short version of the fable is that a crow is very thirsty, sees a partially full pitcher of water and with a little hard work and ingenuity, the crow gets a drink. How? He drops pebbles into the pitcher until they displace the water and it moves up to the brim where the crow can drink it.

I love the way this book presents this story and other Aesop's fables:
Aesops 1st Book of Childhood Adventures (http://www.amazon.com/Aesops-1st-Book-Childhood-Adventures/dp/0988679116)

Regards,
Vangelo

bruno dante
12th April 2013, 21:18
I had a dream about a crow the other night. Well, not exclusively about a crow, but it was one of the strangest dreams i've ever had...

As this isn't a dream thread, I won't go into it too heavily, but suffice to say, at one point in this dream a blue jay toppled over and died for no apparent reason. While I sat pondering this event, a
massive (and I mean massive) crow swooped down and engulfed the thing in it's beak before taking off, resplendent and glorious (and scary as hell;))

Anyway, this thread caught my eye as a result...

Paul
13th April 2013, 02:01
Clif High's latest wujo begins with a rather intense crow story: http://www.halfpasthuman.com/wujo/clifswujo4122013crows.mp3 . A flock of crows (more precisely and in this instance more appropriately called a murder of crows) decide to execute one of their own, after considerable discussion. Presumably the convicted crow was found guilty of some heinous crime.

william r sanford72
13th April 2013, 03:17
i watched a crow and rabbit play for over an hour once.pretty cool.it reminded me of the book watership down..but it wasnt a crow in the book it was a type of sea gull i believe? we have large murders of crows all over out here and they often warn the chickens when a hawk is in the region..i have also seen crows and black birds chase off hawks as a team.the hawks never stay long when a murder is hanging out.

mahalall
13th April 2013, 14:14
Thank you for sharing the lighter side of the crow. It's interesting how differently we can view things.

Have always seen the crows manifestation as a reflection of battle, of conflict, a conscious turmoil. Have also seen it's arrival with impending death and have seen the crows appearance as the presence of A.Crowley spirit taking flight.

Maybe it's a Celtic thing,

In Celtic mythology, the warrior goddess known as the Morrighan often appears in the form of a crow or raven. In some tales of the Welsh myth cycle, the Mabinogion, the raven is a harbinger of death. Witches and sorcerers were believed to have the ability to transform themselves into ravens and fly away, thus enabling them to evade capture (1)

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http://paganwiccan.about.com/od/othermagicspells/p/The-Magic-Of-Crows-And-Ravens.htm

Billy
13th April 2013, 15:07
I love crows, I have a pair of crows around my caravan everyday. I give them scraps of food. When i am driving near my home they follow my car.

Crows are also the guardians of the philosophers stone.

peace