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White Phoenix
24th April 2013, 16:17
Hi everyone,

I've been away from Avalon for a long time and to be honest I don't know if it's the right place for me anymore. I won't bore you too much with my bio, but I needed a break from trying to navigate through all the info, misinfo, disinfo and drama. It can be a hard and lonely journey, as I'm sure many of you are familiar. In that time I realised that I have Asperger Syndrome, which at the age of 31 was quite a revelation. I also continued to run a truth-seeking blog page via Facebook, which I had specifically structured so that new-comers had a place to start, but the blog had progressed to a point where the information was quite advanced, contradictory to a layperson, and seemed to have reached a natural conclusion. Unfortunately that conclusion supports the common adage "trust no one".

The reason I say all this is because I cannot completely trust any source of information, including Avalon. Please understand that although I respect Bill Ryan, his team, and those he has interviewed, and appreciate everything that they have contributed, I cannot be certain of their actual identities or individual intentions.

It may appear somewhat naive of me to have needed to state this, but I did so because often times it is the other popular phrase "I want to believe" that has the stronger attraction, and some people will use that fact to mislead you.

Which leads me to the point of this post, the "Sirius" documentary.

I know many of you have doubts about Steven Greer, and in my opinion you are right to do so. There is information out there that may suggest the Disclosure Project is not what it seems and that several of the witnesses (including Greer) may have other identities. I do not wish to unfairly discredit anyone, but the same may also be true for some Camelot/Avalon interviewees. I refrain from using the word "evidence", but the information implies that some of these alternate identities are used in fake/scripted news reports, using make-up, lighting, and even subtle facial prosthetics to alter their appearance. This could mean that the Disclosure Project is, at least for the most part, a staged event, perhaps designed as a drip-feed of information, a barometer for human awareness, a means to usurp independent efforts at disclosure, or all of the above.

So what about the "Sirius" documentary?

On my journey, I have learnt to see the symbols, as these will tell you who it is that wants you to have this information. In fact, I'd like to thank Bill and Kerry for opening my eyes to that fact.

This is the artwork for "Sirius".

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZW040UUr4Qc/UWWm8xB43kI/AAAAAAAABfg/GcpQRl5x9o4/s320/SiriusAvatar.jpg

Anything look familiar?

http://www.gnosticliberationfront.com/square&compass%5B1%5D.gif

What exactly this means, I do not know, but the symbol for Freemasonry is there for anyone with the eyes to see it. Of course it could just be a coincidence, but this is why I chose to return to Avalon at this time, because the people here know that coincidences are rarely that.

If this information has been posted previously, I apologise, and as I have said I do not mean any disrespect to anyone at Avalon. Mr Greer on the other hand...

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/f4f4d560a483.jpg

Kristin
24th April 2013, 16:31
Nice catch on the symbology. Very interesting. I personally take no offence on your discernment with regards to Avalon.

Avalon has many opinions and different takes that are open topics for discussion. It's how we treat each other with respect which makes this forum great as well as the varied content.

Glad to see you posting again.

From the Heart,
Kristin

kathymarie
24th April 2013, 18:00
I, too, have been away from Avalon and other sites as well. Who to trust---what to trust----? I just don't know anymore.

OnyxKnight
24th April 2013, 18:48
Instead of focusing on symbology,, try focusing on the information in the documentary.

sirdipswitch
24th April 2013, 19:51
I quit listening to Greer many years ago, when nothing he did or said seemed to make any difference at all. For as well as this man seems to be "connected", and for as long as he has been suposedly shouting his message, why doesn't the world know anything about him. To me, he is just like all of the rest of the whistle blower community. BLAH BLAH BLAH, wasted words on deaf ears that make no difference what so ever. They all heve been shouting their messages to very same people for more than 30 years. I talk to people where ever I go, and nobody has even heard of Steven Greer. And dam few believe in UFOs', or ETs'. Most just go blank, when you bring up the subject, which means that TPTB programing, is working. People are being programed through movies and TV, not to believe in Them, and it's workin just fine. Go out into the general public and start talkin to people, and all you get is blank stares, like, huh? What you smokin?

Welcome back and thanx for your post, but I won't be so cruel, as to tell you to stick around. chuckle chuckle. :wizard:

CD7
24th April 2013, 20:39
Hi everyone,

I've been away from Avalon for a long time and to be honest I don't know if it's the right place for me anymore. I won't bore you too much with my bio, but I needed a break from trying to navigate through all the info, misinfo, disinfo and drama. It can be a hard and lonely journey, as I'm sure many of you are familiar. In that time I realised that I have Asperger Syndrome, which at the age of 31 was quite a revelation. I also continued to run a truth-seeking blog page via Facebook, which I had specifically structured so that new-comers had a place to start, but the blog had progressed to a point where the information was quite advanced, contradictory to a layperson, and seemed to have reached a natural conclusion. Unfortunately that conclusion supports the common adage "trust no one".

The reason I say all this is because I cannot completely trust any source of information, including Avalon. Please understand that although I respect Bill Ryan, his team, and those he has interviewed, and appreciate everything that they have contributed, I cannot be certain of their actual identities or individual intentions.

So wholeheartedly agree, information chaos seems to b at an all time high lately in the webtrix

It may appear somewhat naive of me to have needed to state this, but I did so because often times it is the other popular phrase "I want to believe" that has the stronger attraction, and some people will use that fact to mislead you.

Which leads me to the point of this post, the "Sirius" documentary.

I know many of you have doubts about Steven Greer, and in my opinion you are right to do so. There is information out there that may suggest the Disclosure Project is not what it seems and that several of the witnesses (including Greer) may have other identities. I do not wish to unfairly discredit anyone, but the same may also be true for some Camelot/Avalon interviewees. I refrain from using the word "evidence", but the information implies that some of these alternate identities are used in fake/scripted news reports, using make-up, lighting, and even subtle facial prosthetics to alter their appearance. This could mean that the Disclosure Project is, at least for the most part, a staged event, perhaps designed as a drip-feed of information, a barometer for human awareness, a means to usurp independent efforts at disclosure, or all of the above.

So what about the "Sirius" documentary?

On my journey, I have learnt to see the symbols, as these will tell you who it is that wants you to have this information. In fact, I'd like to thank Bill and Kerry for opening my eyes to that fact.

This is the artwork for "Sirius".

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZW040UUr4Qc/UWWm8xB43kI/AAAAAAAABfg/GcpQRl5x9o4/s320/SiriusAvatar.jpg

Anything look familiar?

http://www.gnosticliberationfront.com/square&compass%5B1%5D.gif




I havent had a chance to see this documentary as it seems to have been taken down...pay money to see this....UHh yah ok :rolleyes:
however im curious as to exactly how or why u have linked these two images together...i recognize the mason symbol and am assuming u are connecting the image in the first photo, left upper corner -which seems to resemble a compass but could also b a satelite? Is this the connection u are making?

Not meaning to veer u off course, i wouldnt doubt staged events in this arena at all....

What exactly this means, I do not know, but the symbol for Freemasonry is there for anyone with the eyes to see it. Of course it could just be a coincidence, but this is why I chose to return to Avalon at this time, because the people here know that coincidences are rarely that.

Yes im getting tht as coincidentally the same type of programs seem to loop over and over and over --especially in forums and online

If this information has been posted previously, I apologise, and as I have said I do not mean any disrespect to anyone at Avalon. Mr Greer on the other hand...





http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/f4f4d560a483.jpg





Well you had me at hello...and then this...i also do not care for drama...just like you :drama: <----yes this is sarcasm




Ill say tht i have not personally met any of the people involved in PC/PA, (not standing up for greer nor cheerleading) like u say theres sooo much disinfo out there, yah know...so i take no delusions in thinking i know WHO these people are..i know angels can b made to look like devils and devils to look like mother teresa. Quite frankly we are All connected to a form of entertainment..TV, Computer, Phone...etc i see many of the people in the alternative community reminding me of a preacher on churchtv or on some show in hollywood..ask me why the hell im here...it isnt because "i want to believe" alot of us ,i feel,are tired of Beliefs---belief systems HOLY COW shoot

Hawkwind
24th April 2013, 20:49
Hi White Phoenix- I’ve said this in other posts, but it seems worth saying again. “I think, therefore I am.” is as much as you can know (from an intellect standpoint) with absolute certainty. If you’ve seen the movie “The Matrix”, Neo one day discovers that his entire life has been been lived inside a computer simulation. He only discovers this by escaping the simulation and looking at it from another reality- and who’s to say that that reality isn’t also a simulation? and who’s to say that we are not living in a simulated reality right now? So what if we are?
Quite a few people have had experiences with states of consciousness other than what is usually considered the norm of “physical reality”. In fact, if you include dreaming as an altered state of consciousness- we all have. There’s a Chinese proverb which goes: “Chang Tsu dreamed he was a butterfly, but when he awoke he didn’t know if he was a man who had dreamed of being a butterfly or a butterfly dreaming that he was a man.” From my perspective, he’s both and everything else besides, but at the moment he’s experiencing existence from one of those perspectives. So, if you’ve got wings at the moment, flap them bad boys and see where they take you. If you don’t, flapping your arms probably isn’t the most productive use of your current state of being.
Could Sirius and the Disclosure Project actually be manifestations of some secret Illuminati plot? Sure they could. My dog might also be a spy from Zeta Reticuli sent here on a scouting mission before their invasion. If and when they arrive, I’ll deal with it as best I can and hope I receive some consideration for walks, biscuits and petting given. In the mean time, I’ll continue to enjoy her company and play along with the role of pet owner.
I will say, however, that if all of this is some sort of plot, it’s either failed miserably or is convoluted way beyond my ability to discern. Project Camelot and later Project Avalon started as direct results of the Disclosure Project. Thousands, if not millions, have become infinitely more aware of what’s really going on in the world as a direct result. I don’t see how that could possibly be of benefit to people who want to monopolize power. So, they either have well and truly shot themselves in the foot with that one, or perhaps the whole alternative media movement was created as a means to round up everyone with enough intelligence to see the men behind the curtain and wipe us all out in one fell swoop (*insert maniacal laugh here*). If so, I’ll deal with the consequences of that if and when they arise. In the mean time, I’ll continue to take Dr. Greer as a fellow traveler on this life’s journey and his research as another data point in my life’s experience.

Another1
24th April 2013, 20:55
That's quite the poster you have there of the Joker *LOL*

~ all this information about Dr. Greer is new to me ... my gut has offered a few modest warnings over the years to be careful when reading/listening to him but it does that with near every professional spokesperson in these matters thanks to meeting some of them over the years with their hair down ... when in public view it seems that a teaspoon of poison hidden in a gallon of sweet-water is the norm

White Phoenix
24th April 2013, 23:24
Thanks everyone,

@OnyxKnight: I have watched the documentary, and like most of the reviews I have read, the information contained within it seems mostly aimed at newcomers to this kind of thing. I'm not saying it doesn't have value, all information has some value, I'm just pointing out who may be providing this particular information so that people do not take it at face value. If the PTB are involved then there is likely to be a hidden agenda of some sort. What that agenda may be is pure speculation at this time. As for the documentary itself, in my opinion it lacks any definite direction, the title is misleading, the editing is sloppy, and the focus seems to be on Dr Greer more so than the need for disclosure or free energy.

@CD7: You can watch the full documentary here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6S2VOUxBCk

As for the image, here's a larger version...

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/378248_373923386058454_1958383722_n.jpg

The top left is clearly a compass, and the bottom right is a square (you can even see the measurement markings).

@Hawkwind: As mentioned above, I believe all information has value, whether it's truth, deception, or simply entertainment. In fact all of reality is an energetic ocean of information, and how we choose to decode it, both individually and collectively, is the challenge of the journey we call life. That was meant to be my odd way of saying I agree with you, lol. As for the motives behind such things as the Disclosure Project, they could well be more convoluted than any of us can discern. In a way, it does monopolize power, by taking our hopes and (so far) failing to yield any result. By taking the forefront in these issues it invites us to assume that the matter is being dealt with, when in fact it may not be at all. It's deception as a means of control. Coupled with this, the information on ETs and free energy may be completely true, after all, we are not presently living in the civilization that represents the next phase of the PTB's agenda. This current civilization will eventually be replaced by a far more technologically advanced one, therefore knowledge of such things will be presented according to their timescale, with the masses ignorant of the implications. Allowing free energy technology to be developed in the public domain just when humanity is seemingly on the verge of total annihilation will put the people in a position where they will unquestionably support highly sophisticated solutions that they may no longer be able to fully comprehend. Furthermore, as it has already been established that ETs have this technology, it could well be that these supposed extraterrestrial "saviors" want something in return, or demand strict regulations. Either could be regarded as a means of exacting total control over Earth's population and resources. So in essence, the alternative media could easily be a stepping stone toward creating greater awareness of the issues the PTB have created and the "solutions" they covertly have in store for us. It's a minefield of speculation to be sure, but again, all information has value, we just need to remain aware of where each path may be trying to lead us, and then see beyond it.

@Another1: Unfortunately I cannot take credit for the Joker picture. I just thought it was pretty apt.

Hawkwind
25th April 2013, 01:11
@White Phoenix- I agree with you. (That’s meant to be my odd way of saying I agree with you :p) Placing people they control as leaders of organizations which ostensibly oppose their agenda has long been a tactic used by tptb. It could well be the case here. Regardless of the agenda being pursued, the information presented is, (as i said) for me- just another data point.
From both personal experience and the teachings of others I’ve pretty much accepted the conclusion that there really is only one consciousness in the universe and I/you and everything else are it. I say “pretty much accepted” because my ego still seems to be kicking and screaming for dear life to its individuated existence. Anyway, from the perspective of an eternal cosmic consciousness it’s kind of laughable to get worked up about- well, much of anything, really. Yeah, I’d still like to see more peace, harmony and justice in the world and I still do the best I can to work toward those ends. Beyond that, I tend to trust that whether or not it is clear to me, the universe is unfolding as it should. (Admittedly, if I wake up in a FEMA concentration camp next week, I may have to re-evaluate my perspective.:bolt:)

Youniverse
25th April 2013, 01:38
I quit listening to Greer many years ago, when nothing he did or said seemed to make any difference at all. For as well as this man seems to be "connected", and for as long as he has been suposedly shouting his message, why doesn't the world know anything about him. To me, he is just like all of the rest of the whistle blower community. BLAH BLAH BLAH, wasted words on deaf ears that make no difference what so ever. They all heve been shouting their messages to very same people for more than 30 years. I talk to people where ever I go, and nobody has even heard of Steven Greer. And dam few believe in UFOs', or ETs'. Most just go blank, when you bring up the subject, which means that TPTB programing, is working. People are being programed through movies and TV, not to believe in Them, and it's workin just fine. Go out into the general public and start talkin to people, and all you get is blank stares, like, huh? What you smokin?

Welcome back and thanx for your post, but I won't be so cruel, as to tell you to stick around. chuckle chuckle. :wizard:

Hi sirdipswitch! I have great respect for you and your contributions here on Avalon. I just wanted to say that doesn't productions like "Sirius" have the potential to create less blank stares and more intrigued minds wanting to look closer into a phenomena?

Hazel
25th April 2013, 04:52
Weeeell...

"Trust no one and keep your laser gun handy"... keeps our sticky cogs in 'fear' mode.
What will that serve?

Speculate til' the spindly shadows of confusion fog-out the light and choke your ability to reason
Self-knowing and self-trust is the key stone to discernment about all else

Successful bull**** radar, comes at the price of severing the umbilical from 'our' complacent refusal to take responsibility.
Aaanywaaay...why oh why point the wobbly finger at folk such as Greer... when the personal work tends to be sidelined and activism.. a spectator sport!?

NB.. the above was not a soap box attack, but my self-questioning on the topic; decided to add it to the thread as it may resonate for others.:becky:

wobbegong
25th April 2013, 10:00
...I know this is a Sirius matter...but the Joker poster is really a good comic relief!

White Phoenix
25th April 2013, 13:50
@Hawkwind: Ego can be a crafty little SOB, bless it. :laugh:

@recap1: "Trust no-one" does not necessarily equate to fear. Like you say (and I totally agree), self-knowing and self-trust is the key. I could have just as easily of said "trust everyone" but my meaning may have been misunderstood. Take it all in, absorb it, and then if you need it later it's there. We build bridges of understanding that connect us to higher places. The more bridge material we have, the higher we can go. This is why so many people cannot make certain leaps, because they do not have those initial bridges in place. But every now and then we might reach a place and realise we've been building in the wrong direction. Some people will insist on continuing in that direction regardless, after all, they've put so much effort in to it they may no longer be able to see any other way, or maybe they just don't care. But others will humbly reevaluate their direction and start building again from somewhere else, perhaps even using material that they had previously dismissed. I for one have had to do this a few times. And even though some of my friends may be constructing bridges supplied by Dr. Greer Inc. and I may give a little shout out to them from time to time, I have to trust that they are on their path, not mine, so my laser gun will remain safely holstered.

Nanoo Nanoo
25th April 2013, 22:35
I think we are missing the entire point, our emotional attachment to " information " as a saviour.

Do we really believe some movie one day will come along and save us ? Are we still waiting for Christ to re appear to save us ? ( i dont think he would bother seeing how we treated him last time )

The problem is putting faith in something that is not from YOUR heart. The Problem is always looking outside for something to make us whole internally and this is why information is being used to further distance us from hope and faith and ultimately our selves.

Watch the move , enjoy its information and be smart to put hope in your own efforts, not the efforts of others. If your efforts end up aligning with those who make a difference then you have selected wisely. It does not matter where you put your focus as long as its in keeping with WHO YOU ARE.

The question is WHO ARE YOU ?!


Know they self,
Have no fear,
Do not judge,
Walk the middle path,

this path leads to humanities final step in evolving to being part of the Universal family. They wait for us :0)

" their " actions keep us anchored in duality. us and them ... dosent work when you are one.

Hugs , Love and Chickens !

Naniu

Nat_Lee
26th April 2013, 02:34
But what about the little man in the documentarie ?
Atacama Humanoid ??
Seems to be real for me !
See for yourself: http://siriusdisclosure.com/evidence/atacama-humanoid/

http://siriusdisclosure.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Being-Pictures-011-Crop.jpg

Peace out !
Love you all !

Funny poster White Phoenix ;)
http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/f4f4d560a483.jpg

Another1
26th April 2013, 02:56
That little skeleton is a real poser ... it looks so very real and yet the size of it has my mind saying, "No way." - it's fun feeling the debate inside - anything is possible so I will not assert it's fake it just boggles me a bit how tiny it is - my gut wonders of the psyop potential of course due to how they handle information on this planet ... who could possibly be afraid of a tiny ET like this?

White Phoenix
26th April 2013, 14:30
Depends how many there were! 50 of those guys running in through the cat door might make me a bit nervous. :behindsofa:

OnyxKnight
26th April 2013, 20:44
I quit listening to Greer many years ago, when nothing he did or said seemed to make any difference at all.

Are there any people who made a difference?

CD7
26th April 2013, 22:13
Thanks everyone,

@OnyxKnight: I have watched the documentary, and like most of the reviews I have read, the information contained within it seems mostly aimed at newcomers to this kind of thing. I'm not saying it doesn't have value, all information has some value, I'm just pointing out who may be providing this particular information so that people do not take it at face value. If the PTB are involved then there is likely to be a hidden agenda of some sort. What that agenda may be is pure speculation at this time. As for the documentary itself, in my opinion it lacks any definite direction, the title is misleading, the editing is sloppy, and the focus seems to be on Dr Greer more so than the need for disclosure or free energy.

@CD7: You can watch the full documentary here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6S2VOUxBCk

As for the image, here's a larger version...

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/378248_373923386058454_1958383722_n.jpg

The top left is clearly a compass, and the bottom right is a square (you can even see the measurement markings).

@Hawkwind: As mentioned above, I believe all information has value, whether it's truth, deception, or simply entertainment. In fact all of reality is an energetic ocean of information, and how we choose to decode it, both individually and collectively, is the challenge of the journey we call life. That was meant to be my odd way of saying I agree with you, lol. As for the motives behind such things as the Disclosure Project, they could well be more convoluted than any of us can discern. In a way, it does monopolize power, by taking our hopes and (so far) failing to yield any result. By taking the forefront in these issues it invites us to assume that the matter is being dealt with, when in fact it may not be at all. It's deception as a means of control. Coupled with this, the information on ETs and free energy may be completely true, after all, we are not presently living in the civilization that represents the next phase of the PTB's agenda. This current civilization will eventually be replaced by a far more technologically advanced one, therefore knowledge of such things will be presented according to their timescale, with the masses ignorant of the implications. Allowing free energy technology to be developed in the public domain just when humanity is seemingly on the verge of total annihilation will put the people in a position where they will unquestionably support highly sophisticated solutions that they may no longer be able to fully comprehend. Furthermore, as it has already been established that ETs have this technology, it could well be that these supposed extraterrestrial "saviors" want something in return, or demand strict regulations. Either could be regarded as a means of exacting total control over Earth's population and resources. So in essence, the alternative media could easily be a stepping stone toward creating greater awareness of the issues the PTB have created and the "solutions" they covertly have in store for us. It's a minefield of speculation to be sure, but again, all information has value, we just need to remain aware of where each path may be trying to lead us, and then see beyond it.

@Another1: Unfortunately I cannot take credit for the Joker picture. I just thought it was pretty apt.


Well tht link shows the video down....OK with me, thanks for enlarging the pic, there is certainly alot going on in tht image...intersecting lines, interesting tip on the image tht resembles compass/satelite, looks like a piece of arcitecture off of a column? Yes i see the ruler type image in the bottom right corner. I could see where it would appear to b connected to mason symbology? However even if it was related to masons...i really have no opinion either way regarding masons..And im sure not going to think i do because i read it online, in a book...or someone told me. Id rather have first hand experience myself and then ill b the judge as to whether i would access something and its character. Idk i get the feeling u were linking masonry to Greer and somehow thts not good? Correct me if im wrong?

Youniverse
26th April 2013, 22:46
Thanks everyone,

@OnyxKnight: I have watched the documentary, and like most of the reviews I have read, the information contained within it seems mostly aimed at newcomers to this kind of thing. I'm not saying it doesn't have value, all information has some value, I'm just pointing out who may be providing this particular information so that people do not take it at face value. If the PTB are involved then there is likely to be a hidden agenda of some sort. What that agenda may be is pure speculation at this time. As for the documentary itself, in my opinion it lacks any definite direction, the title is misleading, the editing is sloppy, and the focus seems to be on Dr Greer more so than the need for disclosure or free energy.

@CD7: You can watch the full documentary here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6S2VOUxBCk

As for the image, here's a larger version...

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/378248_373923386058454_1958383722_n.jpg

The top left is clearly a compass, and the bottom right is a square (you can even see the measurement markings).

@Hawkwind: As mentioned above, I believe all information has value, whether it's truth, deception, or simply entertainment. In fact all of reality is an energetic ocean of information, and how we choose to decode it, both individually and collectively, is the challenge of the journey we call life. That was meant to be my odd way of saying I agree with you, lol. As for the motives behind such things as the Disclosure Project, they could well be more convoluted than any of us can discern. In a way, it does monopolize power, by taking our hopes and (so far) failing to yield any result. By taking the forefront in these issues it invites us to assume that the matter is being dealt with, when in fact it may not be at all. It's deception as a means of control. Coupled with this, the information on ETs and free energy may be completely true, after all, we are not presently living in the civilization that represents the next phase of the PTB's agenda. This current civilization will eventually be replaced by a far more technologically advanced one, therefore knowledge of such things will be presented according to their timescale, with the masses ignorant of the implications. Allowing free energy technology to be developed in the public domain just when humanity is seemingly on the verge of total annihilation will put the people in a position where they will unquestionably support highly sophisticated solutions that they may no longer be able to fully comprehend. Furthermore, as it has already been established that ETs have this technology, it could well be that these supposed extraterrestrial "saviors" want something in return, or demand strict regulations. Either could be regarded as a means of exacting total control over Earth's population and resources. So in essence, the alternative media could easily be a stepping stone toward creating greater awareness of the issues the PTB have created and the "solutions" they covertly have in store for us. It's a minefield of speculation to be sure, but again, all information has value, we just need to remain aware of where each path may be trying to lead us, and then see beyond it.

@Another1: Unfortunately I cannot take credit for the Joker picture. I just thought it was pretty apt.

It's more like a rorschach test in my opinion. You see what you want to see there. I also see two triangles. An hour glass shape with a triangle on the bottom and one rotated 180 degrees and sitting on top.

Maunagarjana
26th April 2013, 22:55
Have you considered that maybe the compass and square are there not as some veiled reference, but as an overt reference he expected most people to get, namely that the UFO coverup is in large part the work of secret societies like the Freemasons? I think people overthink these things and compulsively jump to wrong conclusions. And anyway, what exactly are you trying to say? That Greer is a Freemason? You really think he also has alternate identities? It's amazing to me that some people question everything they see, but can't muster any discernment when reading the delusional garbage coming from Wellaware1.

Youniverse
26th April 2013, 23:02
My only real focus with this kind of film, regardless of the director's opinions/choices of emphasis/etc., is that it gets people talking about aliens and cover-ups and that sort of thing. People that normally wouldn't be talking about that at all. IMO it is a waste of time and energy to nitpic apart the movie or the star of it. Another reason it is so great to see this kind of movie come out is that it can serve as a challenge to others that have a similar or different point of view to make their own films. Let's get as many films about disclosure going that we can!

Youniverse
26th April 2013, 23:12
Have you considered that maybe the compass and square are there not as some veiled reference, but as an overt reference he expected most people to get, namely that the UFO coverup is in large part the work of secret societies like the Freemasons? I think people overthink these things and compulsively jump to wrong conclusions. And anyway, what exactly are you trying to say? That Greer is a Freemason? You really think he also has alternate identities? It's amazing to me that some people question everything they see, but can't muster any discernment when reading the delusional garbage coming from Wellaware1.

I'm not authority but I've done fairly exstensive research into Freemasonry and I don't see any ill intent there at all. So someone that happens to be a Freemason is involved in a cover-up or conspiracy or what have you and a bunch of people right away say, "oh look, it must be that all Freemasons are involved in that sort of thing." From what I know of Freemasonry, a mason would be removed from the Order if he were involved in anything contrary to the highest freedom and reverence of humanity. Yes there have been Freemasons involved in crimes. There have also been Boy Scouts, and Military personell, and people involved in all sorts of clubs or organizations around the world. Does that make all these different groups or societies criminal???

Black Panther
26th April 2013, 23:51
See the fire at 0:02 - 0:03 ?
I'm sirius. It's part of the documentary...

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Maunagarjana
27th April 2013, 00:16
See the fire at 0:02 - 0:03 ?
I'm sirius. It's part of the documentary...

xDh4sIoZ0Zg

Yeah, it's a mushroom cloud. Clearly meant as a reference to what Dr. Greer might be brooding about. That artificial resource scarcity could lead to nuclear war.

Hazel
27th April 2013, 05:44
Enjoyed your 'bridges' metaphor White Phoenix..
makes a lot of sense thank you

As for my laser gun, not used it..(but keep it close enough) as I tend to prefer to stay open and out of too much judgement ;)

jackovesk
27th April 2013, 06:04
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZW040UUr4Qc/UWWm8xB43kI/AAAAAAAABfg/GcpQRl5x9o4/s320/SiriusAvatar.jpg

Anything look familiar?


Did (You) notice the (PRIME NUMBER)...???

BEWARE of 113...:shocked:


Sollog just released this new prophecy at
http://www.sollog.com/prophecies/113.txt

You can now hear Sollog reading this chilling PROPHECY at http://www.sollog.com

BEWARE OF 113

113 is a date that brings death to many
311 is the reverse of 113
131 is an anagram or pi of 113

11th day of the 3rd month is 113 in Euro Dating
11th day of the 3rd month is 311 in Western Dating
BEWARE OF 113

Many dates contain the numbers 113 within
3rd day of 11th month is such a date to contain 113 within
30th day of 11th month is such a date to contain 113 within
13th day of 10th month is such a date to contain 113 within
31st day of 10th month is such a date to contain 113 within
31st day of 1st month is such a date to contain 113 within
13th day of 1st month is such a date to contain 113 within
31st day of 12th month is such a date to contain 113 within

I have named the 9 DATES for future TRAGEDY above
All contain the dreaded 113 within their dates
DEATH SHALL COME TO MANY OVER AND OVER ON 113

PLANE CRASHES
TRAIN CRASHES
TERRORISM
FAMOUS DEATHS
MASSACRES
SCHOOL SHOOTINGS
EARTHQUAKES
HURRICANES
ASSASSINATIONS


These are the NINE EVENTS that shall occur on THE DATES OF 113

World leaders from past and present shall DIE ON 113
Celebrities shall DIE ON 113
MANY WILL DIE ON 113

13 is ONE or Achad the SIGN OF DEATH
31 is EL the NAME OF GOD
113 is the number of the Son of Eber and Nehemiah
131 is the number of Samael the ANGEL OF DEATH
311 is the number of Raphael
1031 is Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani
1113 is Bathin the demon of 18
1131 is Adiryaron the Mighty ONE Sings
1135 is Ha QadoshBarukh Hu the HOLY ONE, blessed be HE

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!msg/alt.fan.art-bell/ozt6PkRrCoo/9Z9gBPgfHzQJ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AZCVs3Hkoc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d00GwW9UNY

http://www.sollog.com/

PS - Japanese Tsunami (113) 11th March..!

:attention: (WHY) of all Numbers, did they use (113)...???

Can we expect an (EVENT) this year on (113) or (311) 3rd November 2013..?

Coincidence...:confused:

PSS - Just (Checking) if the (Image - Above) is Legit...

From the 'Official' Sirius Website...

http://www.creationislove.com/wp-content/uploads/SIRIUS_Large_Poster.jpeg

http://www.sirius.neverendinglight.com/index.php/press

westhill
27th April 2013, 14:20
Instead of focusing on symbology,, try focusing on the information in the documentary.

Symbology is information.

And I think the question is not how did they get here but what are they doing here.

CD7
27th April 2013, 14:33
Instead of focusing on symbology,, try focusing on the information in the documentary.

Symbology is information.

And I think the question is not how did they get here but what are they doing here. <-----ok not sure where this sentence came from as i do not see it in above
post?

But i wholeheartedly agree tht symbology is information.....ALL letters, numbers....ARE in their unseen form a coalescing group of SYMBOLS


(ok something was edited in the interim of replying to this post)

Njord
27th April 2013, 15:05
I uploaded it for you guys that haven't seen it yet. Enjoy ;)

http://www.putlocker.com/file/2AFB8372B769C8B4

Cannot copyright the truth!

Karezza
27th April 2013, 16:07
I, too, have been away from Avalon and other sites as well. Who to trust---what to trust----? I just don't know anymore.

Then at the very least let us trust in ourselves.
A very watchful eye White Phoenix, your observation is appreciated.

CosmicKat
27th April 2013, 19:58
The reason I say all this is because I cannot completely trust any source of information, including Avalon. Please understand that although I respect Bill Ryan, his team, and those he has interviewed, and appreciate everything that they have contributed, I cannot be certain of their actual identities or individual intentions.

I can understand what you're saying and at the same time, you have to take what you read, especially when it comes to alternative websites, this included with an open mind. Take it with a grain of salt if you will. Everyone process information differently and if you question information, try and search for the facts... I have found that in my own quest for the truth, if more than one person who are not related to each other whether it be Family, friend or foe, the information is probably correct.

I hope this helps.

Observer1964
27th April 2013, 21:38
I have my doubts on Greer, somehow I think it is a kind of distraction, mainly in keeping us in hope that disclosure will come from ... someone else but us ourselfs.
I think disclosure means that enough ppl figure out what is going on, what our role is and choosing the right thing.
anything less...
well what can I say...
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