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Scott
31st March 2010, 08:18
3 Part Talk by Michael Tsarion who opens the first ARC (Alternative Research Community) Convention in Bath, England, February 2010.

Part 1
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Part 2
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Part 3
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Scott
31st March 2010, 17:21
The Trees of Knowledge - An Interview with Michael Tsarion

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View the full interview here : http://gnosticmedia.podomatic.com/entry/2009-12-07T00_03_15-08_00

Enjoy!

Poly Hedra
31st March 2010, 21:56
Thank you, love his work.

Helvetic
3rd April 2010, 14:37
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B i o
Alternative historian and author, Michael Tsarion is an expert on the occult history of Ireland and America. Born in Ireland, he has researched mythologies of the world, as well as his own country's magnificent and mysterious Druidic history. Michael's work considers the consequences to civilization of extraterrestrial involvement and answers many of the quandaries that have puzzled other "visitation" experts. It clarifies the disinformation about Atlantis and the lost continents of pre-history and it shows that the orchestrated chaos of today's world has roots in ancient times. Looking ahead, Michael offers profound solutions for the future. He is the author of the acclaimed books Atlantis, Alien Visitation and Manipulation, Astro-Theology and Sidereal Mythology, and the Irish Origins of Civilization. He is the producer and presenter of the “Origins and Oracles” DVD series that explores ancient mysteries and forbidden knowledge, and co-producer of the “Architects of Control” DVD series.

VERITAS (http://veritasshow.com)

ktlight
31st July 2011, 13:34
"Absolutely and utterly Brilliant. Most won't be able to make heads or tails of this, but for the few intellectual free-spirits who can, its literally showing one The True Path in the clearest possible terms."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zalsPjPcUh8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zalsPjPcUh8&feature=player_embedded

Lisab
31st July 2011, 17:25
Wow Ktlight. That was brilliant. You are turning into a big part of my awakening THANKYOU. I'd never heard of this guy but very timely for me. Il have to back to Deagle cos I want to check out all this guys work! Thanks again x

Nanoo Nanoo
31st July 2011, 21:27
This guy is good.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNytWRgcJ-M

Gustav
31st July 2011, 21:42
This ties in with psych-k and that other guy. Great threads on this forum about them as well. Thank you for posting.

sygh
1st August 2011, 04:24
MIchael Tsarian makes a lot of sense. He's a real eye opener.

Operator
1st August 2011, 04:35
Interesting indeed. But why was that music mixed in while he was talking ?

One flaw by the way. I am not sure if the Mayans "Claimed" to have created this calendar. They didn't.
It was the Olmec civilization ...

Nanoo Nanoo
1st August 2011, 17:55
What i like about Tsarion ( besides the cool name ) is that he presents his ideas with reference to authors and research material of very deeply embedded sacred knowledge. He does the great task of bridging science and theology to make sense of whats happening. And he has conviction in his speaking.

He speaks wisely of how energy works and i know he knows what he is saying. Here is some more i found interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9aShpgy4Rk

Cheers

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Nanoo Nanoo
1st August 2011, 18:03
Interesting indeed. But why was that music mixed in while he was talking ?

One flaw by the way. I am not sure if the Mayans "Claimed" to have created this calendar. They didn't.
It was the Olmec civilization ...

here is some info on the Olmec , thanks for pointing that out.

http://www.sitchin.com/astronaut.htm


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kersley
1st August 2011, 18:13
Interesting indeed. But why was that music mixed in while he was talking ?

One flaw by the way. I am not sure if the Mayans "Claimed" to have created this calendar. They didn't.
It was the Olmec civilization ...

There's little known about the Olmecs, Why is that? Who were these people?

RedeZra
1st August 2011, 18:27
it is true that Consciousness can change DNA

and anything for that matter

but there is a catch ; )


this Consciousness is God or the Great spirit

therfore one cannot change zilch if one is not in touch or tune with God

Nanoo Nanoo
2nd August 2011, 16:25
it is true that Consciousness can change DNA

and anything for that matter

but there is a catch ; )


this Consciousness is God or the Great spirit

therfore one cannot change zilch if one is not in touch or tune with God


I suppose a definition of God for everyone would be slightly different but yes . To which their own representation to that which represents the God figure or that which is the One in the All.

Being in touch and understanding that we are physical and mental ( or spirit as is were ) gives a connection and in understanding this connection one can delve past the material.

DNA is an interactive blue print of your self. And as you change so does your DNA. As you unlock moments, or make realisations, for eg in your life, where you make solid decisions you then re arrange the DNA matrix representation.

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Malachi
2nd August 2011, 17:07
great thread, thank you Nanoo Nanoo!

RedeZra
2nd August 2011, 18:26
DNA is an interactive blue print of your self. And as you change so does your DNA.


yes and DNA pertains to the physical world and has no relevance in the spiritual world

there is no soul with DNA ; )

MargueriteBee
2nd August 2011, 18:34
Interesting indeed. But why was that music mixed in while he was talking ?

One flaw by the way. I am not sure if the Mayans "Claimed" to have created this calendar. They didn't.
It was the Olmec civilization ...

I haven't heard that before now, do you have a reference?

Heather2017
2nd August 2011, 19:19
DNA pertains to the physical world and has no relevance in the spiritual world

there is no soul with DNA ; )

While it may be just a matter of perspective, I respectfully disagree. Everything has a spiritual element to it, and DNA plays a role in our spiritual growth, just as our bodies do.

Michael Tsarion does share fascinating information. I admit I have a crush on him (that mind, those dark good looks, that accent...)!
:luv:

Nanoo Nanoo
2nd August 2011, 21:57
great thread, thank you Nanoo Nanoo!

You are welcom Malachi. Tsarions angle is, i realise more as i study his work, reflects my own study in my book. The time is now to bridge science and spirituality to balance the two. To let go the dogmatic beliefs behind lore and to understand them now. Science can only go so far but without understanding of energetic spirit there is a wall to growth both technologically and of the mind / body spiritually.

Tsarions body of work is an important one to take note of.

Generally speaking, we have forgotten the art of development of the spirit in place of technology and pills doing everything. So this imbalance causes social development to skew mental development. When there is an imbalance of energetic mentalism then the society will not enjoy whole growth as a species.

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Malachi
2nd August 2011, 22:23
great thread, thank you Nanoo Nanoo!

You are welcom Malachi. Tsarions angle is, i realise more as i study his work, reflects my own study in my book. The time is now to bridge science and spirituality to balance the two. To let go the dogmatic beliefs behind lore and to understand them now. Science can only go so far but without understanding of energetic spirit there is a wall to growth both technologically and of the mind / body spiritually.

Tsarions body of work is an important one to take note of.

Generally speaking, we have forgotten the art of development of the spirit in place of technology and pills doing everything. So this imbalance causes social development to skew mental development. When there is an imbalance of energetic mentalism then the society will not enjoy whole growth as a species.

N

wow, great I personally feel the same - we have to "merge" somehow the old spiritual world's teachings with the modern scientific era, the two cannot exist alone and against each other anymore. I don't know what others think about Carl Sagan but I love his scientific work, he never believed in God - I do - but also he never sad that there is NO God. he was a great man and I think, that somehow he always wanted the same as you - to balance the spirituality and the science. If you read his book, "The Contact" you know what I'm talking about.

so good luck with your book, i'm sure you will bring some light to this world.

dan33
2nd August 2011, 22:35
Hi Nanoo,
very interesting.

What do you think about Michael Talbot's quote?
"We are shaped by the intersection of two streams: one that comes straight from the divine, an indirect one that comes from the divine through our environment. We see ourselves as interference patterns, because the influx is a wave phenomenon and we are where the waves are. " M. Talbot . THE HOLOGRAPHIC UNIVERSE.

Nanoo Nanoo
2nd August 2011, 22:42
Hi Nanoo,
very interesting.

What do you think about Michael Talbot's quote?
"We are shaped by the intersection of two streams: one that comes straight from the divine, an indirect one that comes from the divine through our environment. We see ourselves as interference patterns, because the influx is a wave phenomenon and we are where the waves are. " M. Talbot . THE HOLOGRAPHIC UNIVERSE.

Deep and good , i like his analogy. I do point out that the inference of divine through enviroment interference is proportional to ones ability to stand firm or to let free the self or for the one to move energetically within the energetic matrix. there is interfere and interfear , both responsible for differing outcomes.

ktlight
14th August 2011, 21:46
'In this companion DVD to The Irish Origins of Civilization (Volumes 1 and 2), Michael Tsarion discusses the historical significance of ancient Ireland and takes us on a truly fascinating journey through time, from the Emerald Isle to Egypt and back again full circle. Along the way we are introduced to the Druids and also to their destroyers, the Atonists. We discover the origins of the world's most powerful secret societies and the New World Order they labor to create. We discover secret facts about the royal dynasties of Britain and Europe, the Empire of Rome, and about Masonic influence in America. Featuring over 560 illustrations, and rare source material, this DVD series dramatically revolutionizes our view of history and explains what can be done to combat the tyrannical forces that have long conspired to undermine truth, freedom and justice.'

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This video is part 1. There are 6 parts. Well worth viewing.

Lord Sidious
14th August 2011, 21:51
So there ya go, we really are legends.
I am a legend in my own lunchbox.
Problem is, I lost the damn lunchbox.
Still got the thermos though! :cool:

Deedee
14th August 2011, 22:36
So there ya go, we really are legends.
I am a legend in my own lunchbox.
Problem is, I lost the damn lunchbox.
Still got the thermos though! :cool:

Wow Sid I just noticed how much activity you have had here since January 2011... 4,540 posts.. is that right? (Gulp)... Anyway here's a Michael Tsarion Video for you all to enjoy.. It's short and to the point and not that long.. if you can take some time to watch this I "highly" recommend it!!

"The Mountain"...

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13th October 2011, 22:29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqNN5p6bcj4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqNN5p6bcj4

We are going to examine freemasonry, the roots, masonry and the connection to Judaism, symbolism, the Royal connections and the question of hierarchy. We'll look into: Holarchy versus Hierarchy, Imperialism Old and New, Colonization and Colonialization, The Rule of Psychopaths, Origin of the Jews, the Gaonim, the Sadducees, Zadokites, Essenes, Cistercians, Templars, Teutons, the etymology of the name David, the Dividers, Masonic Symbolism, the Twins, the Tree of Life Symbol. Further ahead in the series we'll discuss corruption and masonry and also the fascinating ripper case and the connection to masonry.'


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTGtBnPoQTg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTGtBnPoQTg

This is part two of our series with Michael Tsarion on the Brotherhood of Death. Go to redicecreations.com to watch part one. In part two we look at the Question of Antiquity, The Catholic Fraternities, Alleged Rivalries, Knights Templar. We'll also look into: Masonic Symbolism, Catholic Fraternities, the Knights Templar, the Nazi Connection and much more. Further ahead in the series we'll discuss corruption and masonry and also the fascinating ripper case and the connection to masonry

sygh
13th October 2011, 22:32
Michael Tsarion, now here is someone I actually trust, when it comes to good information.

woodshreder
13th October 2011, 23:15
Michael Tsarion was the one who first helped my awakening back in 2007. It was him connecting the dots in his presentation at the Granada Forum in Los Angeles "The Future of Mankind"
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8545585184878490822# This opened my eyes , I havent been the same since.... IMHO His research is a wonderful tool to help awaken those who just havent quite grasped the game thats being played upon humanity..... Thanks for the new material .....Peace Always Peace

jackovesk
25th November 2011, 05:23
Individually Transcend = Key to Victory

22 November 2011

Michael Tsarion on Individualism speaking during interview Nov. 2011.




"The Individual is not 'Awakened' until they themselves embody the 'Light' within themselves..!"

"So this growing up period for individual Spiritual, Psychological Individual Maturity e.g. Psychic Sovereighnty, Psychic Immunity where 'No' Patheogenic Force can enter your 'Consciousness' because your so Strong! Is the Key to Defeating the Enemy! You cannot Defeat the PTB by using the Tools they have given you..!"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDrNEF42HXs&feature=player_embedded

PS - Alot of 'Truths' in this interview (Well worth investing 27 mins of your time if your looking for answers as to (Why Are We Here?)...

http://realtruthmatters.com/blog/media/blogs/blog/Individualism.jpg

Lisab
25th November 2011, 05:33
Thanks Jacko. I love Michael Tsarion now thanks to Ktlight! Il get back to this later as off towork soon. Cheers Lisa

westhill
8th March 2012, 19:13
Be prepared to have your beliefs challenged.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o81IdYBRYBQ

Michael's websites and forum
http://michaeltsarion.com/
http://femaleilluminati.com/

I'm not used to posting so I hope this worked.

Cilka
8th March 2012, 20:29
Well, it's obvious that a female has to be the head of the Illuminati, Michael Tsarion does not have to tell us that. It was Eve that told Adam to grab that Macintosh apple form the good looking tree. Why is Michael making a big deal about this discovery, I hope he won't pee in his pants from all this excitement.

ghostrider
9th March 2012, 04:36
if adam would have just grabbed his axe, and cut that tree down, and then do a little snake hunting.

westhill
9th March 2012, 05:25
Let's not stop and think we are done understanding with the first of the Eves.
The Order of the Eastern Star allows women, with The Rainbow Girls as a feeder group.
I was amazed at the symbolism. Never thought to look into the female side closely.
Michael Tsarion doesn't mention the above organizations, he's looking way up higher and
into the trauma and psychology of how we got here, so we can heal.

http://charlestonmasonicpages.org/CCMA/RAINBOW.GIF
http://okd8masonsneurope.org/blue%20pics/1OES.gif

9eagle9
9th March 2012, 05:37
I'll make a big deal out of it because its the only interesting thing, besides indviduals posts, interesting or even half way fresh this week and is at least not another five times a day channel from Jupitor or how Great Ithou art) David Wilcocks is. David Wilcock, Benjamin Fulford and the GFL crew don't have to unravel at tripes 24 hours a day either but they do anyway.


Plus Michael is hot and smart, very thought provocking regardless is you believe what he says or not, isn't creating another ascension religion, or xtolling us to climb in a ufo , promising to get all our gold back or handing out light body suits ....did I mention he was hot. To the point he makes spiritual gurus look like sour wet dish rags hanging out on a line to dry in the acid rain. I think its cause he has some orginal thought process left. That's sort of sexy.

Refreshing perhaps.

Or maybe its just relief.



Well, it's obvious that a female has to be the head of the Illuminati, Michael Tsarion does not have to tell us that. It was Eve that told Adam to grab that Macintosh apple form the good looking tree. Why is Michael making a big deal about this discovery, I hope he won't pee in his pants from all this excitement.

nearing
9th March 2012, 05:57
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I'll make a big deal out of it because its the only interesting thing, besides indviduals posts, interesting or even half way fresh this week and is at least not another five times a day channel from Jupitor or how Great Ithou art) David Wilcocks is. David Wilcock, Benjamin Fulford and the GFL crew don't have to unravel at tripes 24 hours a day either but they do anyway.


Plus Michael is hot and smart, very thought provocking regardless is you believe what he says or not, isn't creating another ascension religion, or xtolling us to climb in a ufo , promising to get all our gold back or handing out light body suits ....did I mention he was hot. To the point he makes spiritual gurus look like sour wet dish rags hanging out on a line to dry in the acid rain. I think its cause he has some orginal thought process left. That's sort of sexy.

Refreshing perhaps.

Or maybe its just relief.



Well, it's obvious that a female has to be the head of the Illuminati, Michael Tsarion does not have to tell us that. It was Eve that told Adam to grab that Macintosh apple form the good looking tree. Why is Michael making a big deal about this discovery, I hope he won't pee in his pants from all this excitement.

Nice looking, very smart, revealing truths, and the accent doesn't hurt either. Oh yes, he is very hot.

pyriel
9th March 2012, 05:57
I'll make a big deal out of it because its the only interesting thing, besides indviduals posts, interesting or even half way fresh this week and is at least not another five times a day channel from Jupitor or how Great Ithou art) David Wilcocks is. David Wilcock, Benjamin Fulford and the GFL crew don't have to unravel at tripes 24 hours a day either but they do anyway.


Plus Michael is hot and smart, very thought provocking regardless is you believe what he says or not, isn't creating another ascension religion, or xtolling us to climb in a ufo , promising to get all our gold back or handing out light body suits ....did I mention he was hot. To the point he makes spiritual gurus look like sour wet dish rags hanging out on a line to dry in the acid rain. I think its cause he has some orginal thought process left. That's sort of sexy.

Refreshing perhaps.

Or maybe its just relief.



Well, it's obvious that a female has to be the head of the Illuminati, Michael Tsarion does not have to tell us that. It was Eve that told Adam to grab that Macintosh apple form the good looking tree. Why is Michael making a big deal about this discovery, I hope he won't pee in his pants from all this excitement.

someone need a cold shower. :P

Valle
9th March 2012, 07:12
I saw this "mistake" in the the daily telegraph a couple of days ago..

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151357156155612&set=a.10150196155495612.440552.673840611&type=3&theater

motherlove
9th March 2012, 12:00
Is it possible that the female kind of one would try to distroy the female kind of another to ensure their power perhaps because of midocondrial DNA? What better way to distroy genetic memory? Best Wishes

Lisab
9th March 2012, 13:27
I find the work of Michael Tsarion and Sonia Barrett to be so helpful in my "de-programming". Thanks for this video Il get back to it later.

Oh yeah and Michael IS hot! Love that soft Irish lilt!!!

nearing
9th March 2012, 19:54
The theory he speaks of makes sense. It's an interesting discussion but not sure where it leaves us. If women today are kept down due to this ancient crime, what do we do about it?

king anthony
9th March 2012, 20:02
I'm not used to posting so I hope this worked.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o81IdYBRYBQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o81IdYBRYBQ

gooty64
9th March 2012, 20:27
Well, I think he is HOT too! And until I get my "light bodysuit" repaired to correct my little imbalance, all is fair down here!



I'll make a big deal out of it because its the only interesting thing, besides indviduals posts, interesting or even half way fresh this week and is at least not another five times a day channel from Jupitor or how Great Ithou art) David Wilcocks is. David Wilcock, Benjamin Fulford and the GFL crew don't have to unravel at tripes 24 hours a day either but they do anyway.


Plus Michael is hot and smart, very thought provocking regardless is you believe what he says or not, isn't creating another ascension religion, or xtolling us to climb in a ufo , promising to get all our gold back or handing out light body suits ....did I mention he was hot. To the point he makes spiritual gurus look like sour wet dish rags hanging out on a line to dry in the acid rain. I think its cause he has some orginal thought process left. That's sort of sexy.

Refreshing perhaps.

Or maybe its just relief.



Well, it's obvious that a female has to be the head of the Illuminati, Michael Tsarion does not have to tell us that. It was Eve that told Adam to grab that Macintosh apple form the good looking tree. Why is Michael making a big deal about this discovery, I hope he won't pee in his pants from all this excitement.

someone need a cold shower. :P

TargeT
9th March 2012, 21:39
I'm never disapointed by Tsarion's stuff good watch & a subject that does not suprize me at all, yet more examplification of how deceptive this "reality" is.

aranuk
9th March 2012, 22:20
The theory he speaks of makes sense. It's an interesting discussion but not sure where it leaves us. If women today are kept down due to this ancient crime, what do we do about it?

I don't think Michael wants women to do anything about it other than understand our history. I haven't heard or read anything as such before, so I am digesting it all at the moment. I am sure in a month or so when he will have his usual slides in his presentation, it will become a wee bit clearer. I found the sound wasn't great. I could hear Paddy clearly but not Michael.

Stan

aranuk
9th March 2012, 22:25
I was just thinking. How could these hybrid women have killed all the men on the planet? How could that have been possible.

Stan

modwiz
9th March 2012, 22:30
Here is an interesting quote to compliment a point Tsarion is making in the video.

Gutle Schnapper, the wife of Mayer Amschel Rothschild, stated in 1849; “If my sons did not want war, there would be none”.


http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1219126140.php

TargeT
9th March 2012, 22:34
If women today are kept down due to this ancient crime, what do we do about it?

the great crime was that women killed off all the "earthly" men so they (the power structure behind churches & other power structures) hide behind (now) a patriarchial front (which is false)....

this "crime" happened because (A SMALL SUB SET OF) women are quicker to "envy" and they envy men their strength (even though they have hteir own strengths) I'm only about an hour in right now, this was discussed a bit before the hour mark.

apparently all people are now hybrids & "men" as they historically were are gone due to this genocidal (tho sex based) attack..

then the nephalim abandoned the earth & women were stuck with out men for muscle & missing the nephalims technology.. so we repopulated.

& we are a slave race too apparently (or at least men are).


perhaps there is a genetic memory of this crime & thats why the roles are as they are (Tsarion says its a genetic memory, thats why women are treated somewhat like second class citizens)


I find it interesting, can't wait to see the final product.

I dont see women as second class citizens, in fact I know that women hwo choose a carreer over family make more money than men do & really accell in every way, I also don't get racism either so maybe I'm just wierd...

so I don't see how anything can be done about it, i guess we can keep feminizing men for reperations? haha

nearing
9th March 2012, 22:39
If women today are kept down due to this ancient crime, what do we do about it?

did you listen to the interview?

the great crime was that women killed off all the "earthly" men so they hide behind (now) a patriarchial front (which is false).... this "crime" happened because women are quicker to "envy" and they envy men their strength (even though they have hteir own strengths) I'm only about an hour in right now, this was discussed a bit before the hour mark.

women aren't "held down" they hide behind this farce to continue to pull strings (the "right" kind of women).

Yes, I did. He said that due to this crime, it is understandable that men keep women down today. And we see it all around us. I don't see how you got that we hide behind a farce from this interview.

TargeT
9th March 2012, 22:40
Yes, I did. He said that due to this crime, it is understandable that men keep women down today. And we see it all around us. I don't see how you got that we hide behind a farce from this interview.

you caught me in mid edit ;)

Black Panther
9th March 2012, 22:55
R
I'll make a big deal out of it because its the only interesting thing, besides indviduals posts, interesting or even half way fresh this week and is at least not another five times a day channel from Jupitor or how Great Ithou art) David Wilcocks is. David Wilcock, Benjamin Fulford and the GFL crew don't have to unravel at tripes 24 hours a day either but they do anyway.


Plus Michael is hot and smart, very thought provocking regardless is you believe what he says or not, isn't creating another ascension religion, or xtolling us to climb in a ufo , promising to get all our gold back or handing out light body suits ....did I mention he was hot. To the point he makes spiritual gurus look like sour wet dish rags hanging out on a line to dry in the acid rain. I think its cause he has some orginal thought process left. That's sort of sexy.

Refreshing perhaps.

Or maybe its just relief.



Well, it's obvious that a female has to be the head of the Illuminati, Michael Tsarion does not have to tell us that. It was Eve that told Adam to grab that Macintosh apple form the good looking tree. Why is Michael making a big deal about this discovery, I hope he won't pee in his pants from all this excitement.

Nice looking, very smart, revealing truths, and the accent doesn't hurt either. Oh yes, he is very hot.

The ladies having a good time, huh!















It's all about the inside :p

CdnSirian
10th March 2012, 00:39
Extreme buffering problems... and
"I don't think Michael wants women to do anything...". Yeop. Reasons why women should do something, despite a person like this.

sygh
10th March 2012, 06:22
I don't believe women killed off the men.

9eagle9
10th March 2012, 14:01
;)Course not , luv. We're still trying





I don't believe women killed off the men.

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Sure. Humans have been doing that for thousands of years.



Is it possible that the female kind of one would try to distroy the female kind of another to ensure their power perhaps because of midocondrial DNA? What better way to distroy genetic memory? Best Wishes

9eagle9
10th March 2012, 14:17
Women really don't have to do anything but know their own power and use it repsonsbily. Not abusing it and tailoring it to express itself like filmy gentle Summer Eve douche commericals or being roaringly aggressive but just allowing it to be what it is. We try to define what femininty is and what masculinity is and how we do tht doens't serve either one.

This video explains to me why I find men so annoying in close quarters. Most men anyway, there are a few rare ones who are intellgient and truly quiet in their masculinity and intelligent. An intelligent man who isn't assimlated in all this conditioning...oh my god, panties down.

. This is a barren paradigm for a straight woman who find most of the male population to be co dependently annoying and energy vampires. Where I want to scream, "Look dude, I am NOT here to make YOU look good. and I'm NOT here for you to manage in covert and overt ways." The co dependently covert ways are the ones that drives me insane . The overtly blustering insecure ones carry their own red flags but the coverts "I'm a nice guy" are the ones that have my trigger finger twitihing when they get in my space. Or rather insist on imposing on my space.

I think Momma's boy got a whole new definition

It could even explain why women like gay men as friends.

If you start rolling this around in the processors this could show that homosexuality is a means correcting something that went wrong a long time ago. If you know what I mean. Just speculation of course.


Extreme buffering problems... and
"I don't think Michael wants women to do anything...". Yeop. Reasons why women should do something, despite a person like this.

aranuk
10th March 2012, 15:10
Women really don't have to do anything but know their own power and use it repsonsbily. Not abusing it and tailoring it to express itself like filmy gentle Summer Eve douche commericals or being roaringly aggressive but just allowing it to be what it is. We try to define what femininty is and what masculinity is and how we do tht doens't serve either one.

This video explains to me why I find men so annoying in close quarters. Most men anyway, there are a few rare ones who are intellgient and truly quiet in their masculinity and intelligent. An intelligent man who isn't assimlated in all this conditioning...oh my god, panties down.

. This is a barren paradigm for a straight woman who find most of the male population to be co dependently annoying and energy vampires. Where I want to scream, "Look dude, I am NOT here to make YOU look good. and I'm NOT here for you to manage in covert and overt ways." The co dependently covert ways are the ones that drives me insane . The overtly blustering insecure ones carry their own red flags but the coverts "I'm a nice guy" are the ones that have my trigger finger twitihing when they get in my space. Or rather insist on imposing on my space.

I think Momma's boy got a whole new definition

It could even explain why women like gay men as friends.

If you start rolling this around in the processors this could show that homosexuality is a means correcting something that went wrong a long time ago. If you know what I mean. Just speculation of course.


Extreme buffering problems... and
"I don't think Michael wants women to do anything...". Yeop. Reasons why women should do something, despite a person like this.

Hi 9Eagle9 I haven't a scooby what you are saying here. Could you make yourself a wee bit clearer please.

Stan

seko
10th March 2012, 15:31
Women really don't have to do anything but know their own power and use it repsonsbily. Not abusing it and tailoring it to express itself like filmy gentle Summer Eve douche commericals or being roaringly aggressive but just allowing it to be what it is. We try to define what femininty is and what masculinity is and how we do tht doens't serve either one.

This video explains to me why I find men so annoying in close quarters. Most men anyway, there are a few rare ones who are intellgient and truly quiet in their masculinity and intelligent. An intelligent man who isn't assimlated in all this conditioning...oh my god, panties down.

. This is a barren paradigm for a straight woman who find most of the male population to be co dependently annoying and energy vampires. Where I want to scream, "Look dude, I am NOT here to make YOU look good. and I'm NOT here for you to manage in covert and overt ways." The co dependently covert ways are the ones that drives me insane . The overtly blustering insecure ones carry their own red flags but the coverts "I'm a nice guy" are the ones that have my trigger finger twitihing when they get in my space. Or rather insist on imposing on my space.

I think Momma's boy got a whole new definition

It could even explain why women like gay men as friends.

If you start rolling this around in the processors this could show that homosexuality is a means correcting something that went wrong a long time ago. If you know what I mean. Just speculation of course.


Extreme buffering problems... and
"I don't think Michael wants women to do anything...". Yeop. Reasons why women should do something, despite a person like this.

It makes a lot of sense when you connect the dots here with this information. Women are women, right?... the body, hair, curves etc etc.. and if you add to this beautiful being some male qualities like some physical strength, straight to the point answers and not spirals. etc etc.... you get Yoga here, the Union between man and woman and it's great.

Very true that women like gay men as best friends or really good friends and men liking women that are a little masculine as their best friends, because they understand each other more clearly. Less barriers between one and other.

Great thread and posts everyone.

schneider
10th March 2012, 15:40
i don't buy this story. so a small minority of women who were envious of the physical strength of men, decided to have sex with the nephelim because they were more powerful because of their technology. these women then use this technology from the nephelim to destroy every earth born male. did i get the story right? so now women today are being punished for these crimes. and the men on earth today are some strange hybrid of the original man from long ago?

RedeZra
10th March 2012, 18:43
this divine feminine wind which is gathering strength and speed in the world

is a resurgence from the old post flood cultures


Inanna in Sumer Ishtar in Assyria Isis in Egypt Astarte in Greece

in Scripture she is mentioned as the queen of heaven (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_Heaven_(Antiquity)) whom the Israelites worshiped in the time before the Babylonian captivity but warned against by the prophet Jeremiah because it provoked God


"Do you not see what they do in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem?

"The children gather wood, the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead dough, to make cakes for the queen of heaven; and [they] pour out drink offerings to other gods, that they may provoke Me to anger. - Jeremiah 7:17-18



she is the femme fatale of fallen spirits

and still blowing strong


this divine feminine wind which is gathering strength and speed in the world


Satan did not trick Adam

he left that to Eve


i am sure there is a lesson there


the feminine has always been more sensitive to the speeches of spirits

but not so good in discriminating between them

aranuk
10th March 2012, 22:18
i don't buy this story. so a small minority of women who were envious of the physical strength of men, decided to have sex with the nephelim because they were more powerful because of their technology. these women then use this technology from the nephelim to destroy every earth born male. did i get the story right? so now women today are being punished for these crimes. and the men on earth today are some strange hybrid of the original man from long ago?

Hi Schneider, that's what I think he said too. I quiery this for now, but I will allow time for MT to explain further when he says he will deliver a seminar or talk soon.

Stan

aranuk
10th March 2012, 22:23
this divine feminine wind which is gathering strength and speed in the world

is a resurgence from the old post flood cultures


Inanna in Sumer Ishtar in Assyria Isis in Egypt Astarte in Greece

in Scripture she is mentioned as the queen of heaven (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_Heaven_(Antiquity)) whom the Israelites worshiped in the time before the Babylonian captivity but warned against by the prophet Jeremiah because it provoked God


"Do you not see what they do in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem?

"The children gather wood, the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead dough, to make cakes for the queen of heaven; and [they] pour out drink offerings to other gods, that they may provoke Me to anger. - Jeremiah 7:17-18



she is the femme fatale of fallen spirits

and still blowing strong


this divine feminine wind which is gathering strength and speed in the world


Satan did not trick Adam

he left that to Eve


i am sure there is a lesson there


the feminine has always been more sensitive to the speeches of spirits

but not so good in discriminating between them

Hi RedeZra, Maybe the serpent found it easier to lure Eve than it could Adam. It knew woman could trick man so left it that way.

Stan

cloud9
11th March 2012, 00:10
After listening to the interview I remembered that this same subject is in "Conversations with God", in the book there's a description somehow similar but not the same about how power changed hands from women to men. The short story says that women were powerful and they didn't need men (for survival), men were kind of labor and sexual slaves.
After a while men got tired and they started plotting to change things and they were able to do it through fear and that's how the idea of a male God came to fruition, the male God that the men created was vengeful and a tyrant.

RedeZra
11th March 2012, 07:53
Satan did not trick Adam

he left that to Eve



Hi RedeZra, Maybe the serpent found it easier to lure Eve than it could Adam. It knew woman could trick man so left it that way.

Stan


hi Stan


we must face the facts

that women have been known

to trick men once in a while


but this goes both ways


men cannot claim innocence

in the tricking department

RedeZra
11th March 2012, 08:00
After listening to the interview I remembered that this same subject is in "Conversations with God", in the book there's a description somehow similar but not the same about how power changed hands from women to men.

Scripture says the wife shall obey her husband

as Eve tricked Adam to disobey God


women say

when the ring is on you're mine ; )

9eagle9
11th March 2012, 12:20
No I suppose I can't, one either gets it or they don't.




Women really don't have to do anything but know their own power and use it repsonsbily. Not abusing it and tailoring it to express itself like filmy gentle Summer Eve douche commericals or being roaringly aggressive but just allowing it to be what it is. We try to define what femininty is and what masculinity is and how we do tht doens't serve either one.

This video explains to me why I find men so annoying in close quarters. Most men anyway, there are a few rare ones who are intellgient and truly quiet in their masculinity and intelligent. An intelligent man who isn't assimlated in all this conditioning...oh my god, panties down.

. This is a barren paradigm for a straight woman who find most of the male population to be co dependently annoying and energy vampires. Where I want to scream, "Look dude, I am NOT here to make YOU look good. and I'm NOT here for you to manage in covert and overt ways." The co dependently covert ways are the ones that drives me insane . The overtly blustering insecure ones carry their own red flags but the coverts "I'm a nice guy" are the ones that have my trigger finger twitihing when they get in my space. Or rather insist on imposing on my space.

I think Momma's boy got a whole new definition

It could even explain why women like gay men as friends.

If you start rolling this around in the processors this could show that homosexuality is a means correcting something that went wrong a long time ago. If you know what I mean. Just speculation of course.


Extreme buffering problems... and
"I don't think Michael wants women to do anything...". Yeop. Reasons why women should do something, despite a person like this.

Hi 9Eagle9 I haven't a scooby what you are saying here. Could you make yourself a wee bit clearer please.

Stan

cloud9
11th March 2012, 16:08
After listening to the interview I remembered that this same subject is in "Conversations with God", in the book there's a description somehow similar but not the same about how power changed hands from women to men.

Scripture says the wife shall obey her husband

as Eve tricked Adam to disobey God


women say

when the ring is on you're mine ; )

Well, we all know what happens when women have to obey men.... being there and done that.... not a good thing. I dunno about the ring thing... I got the ring and there's no way I own him...

RedeZra
11th March 2012, 18:36
Scripture says the wife shall obey her husband

as Eve tricked Adam to disobey God


women say

when the ring is on you're mine ; )

Well, we all know what happens when women have to obey men.... being there and done that.... not a good thing. I dunno about the ring thing... I got the ring and there's no way I own him...


i do not presume to speak for all men and women

just a fair percentage of them


and you're right

the ring doesn't mean women own their men


but it has come to my attention

that some think so lol

westhill
11th March 2012, 23:07
It doesn't seem impossible that all the men had been killed off. Just look at the ways available today to kill off large, targeted, groups of people.
It's the WILL to do it that gets me! This I believe is what Michael wants us to remember because it is happening again. We can't stop what we
can't see coming at us. And it won't just be the men this time.
westhill

TargeT
11th March 2012, 23:25
i don't buy this story. so a small minority of women who were envious of the physical strength of men, decided to have sex with the nephelim because they were more powerful because of their technology. these women then use this technology from the nephelim to destroy every earth born male. did i get the story right? so now women today are being punished for these crimes. and the men on earth today are some strange hybrid of the original man from long ago?

no, its more like an out side influence presented itself as benevolent, it was REALLY looking for weakness (deception again...) they found a certain subset of women that were envious of men & they seduced them & probably twisted them into the actions that were taken (this is a bit of my own opinion mixed in with what I heard) as this presentation wasn't full or complete I think its hard to get a super clear picture of what went on.

I don't see this as "women are bad" or "were bad" I see it as an intelligent outside influence imposed itself and its agendas on humanity via deception and the outcome (which may or may not have been their desire, the human ego doesn't need much help when it comes time to do terrible things) was strong duality in the sex roles.. but I can see this as a desired out come as reality does NOT exist with out duality, perhaps they were pushing a fractal agenda to extend 3d reality for longer by seeding races with these long term duality struggles?

I don't see this as a closed or final statement, I see it as a new avenue for research and learning (no blame, no malice, just seeking understanding; as I think we all desire to do)

9eagle9
12th March 2012, 00:59
A long time ago I had recieved some information concerning the origins of man. What I seen were thise humanoid beings that were female but in a androgenous way. They were conducting some sort of ritual because they were attempting to perfect something about themselves. So they essentiallly had this rite where sorta purged greed, and other undesirable attributes. What resulted from yakking up all this crud was the creation of Mankind. No not very flattering I know. It wasn't MEN specifically just mankind. This video has sorta made me rethink some things here.

Maybe Question if Tsarion may be percieving this androgynous race and mistaking it for women, but this race was responsible perhaps for the creation of mankind . And perhaps maybe responsible for its destruction as well. That word man kind you know is always indicating mankind as both genders perhaps they are not.

Then this may also validate this information I recieved in some way. Not getting firmly fixed on it one or the other.

I once mentioned before that I was felt that men and women were two different species. Not that one is better than the other just more like the difference between a horse and a pony. The same but different. One wonders...

RedeZra
12th March 2012, 05:59
I once mentioned before that I was felt that men and women were two different species. Not that one is better than the other just more like the difference between a horse and a pony. The same but different. One wonders...

it is well known that women are from men

or Eve at least was one rib of Adam ; )

gripreaper
12th March 2012, 06:24
it is well known that women are from men

or Eve at least was one rib of Adam ; )

That is not well known, but is a myth perpetuated by the elite controllers who wrote the bible at the Council of Nicaea and had no historical basis for such a claim, and it is incongruous to make an assumption that "because" it is in the bible, then it is "well known" to be the truth. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Current genome mapping of homo sapiens sapiens and homo erectus actually proves that there were one female and twelve males that originated the current species, although there may have been more female originators whose lineage dies in great cataclysms over the 65 million year history of known human species on this planet. There is but a 1.5% difference between the DNA in a chimpanzee and the DNA in homo erectus.

So, you may want to look into the research of Cremo and Thompson, more specifically "The Hidden History of Planet Earth" or Joseph Farrell's work, or any of the other great genetic researchers of today.

The promulgated myth by the elite who wrote the bible, that mankind started with Adam and Eve about 6,000 years ago is false.

RedeZra
12th March 2012, 06:36
it is well known that women are from men

or Eve at least was one rib of Adam ; )

That is not well known, but is a myth perpetuated by the elite controllers who wrote the bible at the Council of Nicaea and had no historical basis for such a claim, and it is incongruous to make an assumption that "because" it is in the bible, then it is "well known" to be the truth. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Current genome mapping of homo sapiens sapiens and homo erectus actually proves that there were one female and twelve males that originated the current species


i'm sorry but if it's in Scripture then it's true ; )


oh have you ever wondered where the one female and the twelve males came from

gripreaper
12th March 2012, 06:44
i'm sorry but if it's in Scripture then it's true ; )

I'm sorry, but if it's in scripture, it is most likely false, or at least twisted and changed to suit the elite controllers who wrote it.

You see, they want you to only look at their book and ignore the true history of this planet. They say, don't bother looking back there because there's nothing to see but a bunch of dead dinosaurs.

Not true. The twisted story in the bible is only about 2% of the history of this planet, and the ancient texts tell a very different story which goes back millions of millions of years and takes in at least five epochs. There are archeological artifacts recently discovered which are very advanced and date back 65 million years!

RedeZra
12th March 2012, 06:57
i'm sorry but if it's in Scripture then it's true ; )

I'm sorry, but if it's in scripture, it is most likely false, or at least twisted and changed to suit the elite controllers who wrote it.


no it's all true and it is the Book of God and He Guards it from tampering

by the PTB who controls science and so scientists

who apply faulty methods for dating things


people are mostly concerned about their paycheck

so they go along playing by the rules ; )



oh have you figured out where the female and her twelve male companions came from yet ?

gripreaper
12th March 2012, 07:05
no it's all true and it is the Book of God and He Guards it from tampering by the PTB who controls science and so scientists who apply faulty methods for dating things

No, the bible is not true and is definitely tampered with, and the bible is NOT the all inspired "guarded" book of god, and the processes used to date and map the genome are accurate and true.


people are mostly concerned about their pay check so they go along playing by the rules ; )

So, we are to discard all inquiry which does not align with the bible because it is all motivated by greed for money?


oh have you figured out where the female and her twelve male companions came from yet ?

Please enlighten us, but if you would not mind, could you possibly use another reference besides the bible?

RedeZra
12th March 2012, 07:08
i tell you the truth

Scripture will be fulfilled to the very last verse and we will all see it

gripreaper
12th March 2012, 07:10
i tell you the truth

Scripture will be fulfilled to the very last verse and we will all see it

I don't think so. The elite who are promulgating and engineering their Armageddon will not be successful, and the false atrocities described in Revelations will not happen.

Why would anyone want to see such things occur?

RedeZra
12th March 2012, 07:19
i tell you the truth

Scripture will be fulfilled to the very last verse and we will all see it

I don't think so. The elite who are promulgating and engineering their Armageddon will not be successful, and the false atrocities described in Revelations will not happen.

Why would anyone want to see such things occur?

i know so

God is beyond time and know everything from the beginning til the end


what we call atrocities are what God call rewards

for what we have done

westhill
12th March 2012, 07:21
Besides the interview, make sure you check out Michael's forums.

http://femaleilluminatiforum.com/
http://michaeltsarion.com/mtsarforum/viewforum.php?f=2

He has recently posted this: Weird Cartoon from 1920's "Bimbo's Initiation"...
E0TzhdEyol0

The "teacup" scepter in the cartoon is a long standing MK Ultra trigger (listed by Fritz Springmeier).
Here's GaGA sporting a few cups, which she sips with Betty Boop lips. In one photo she embodies her "comfort object."
But don't believe for a minute that she doesn't know what she is doing.

http://allieiswired.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/lady_gaga_and_her_teacup_fettish.jpg
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lc95xmdqXK1qazl6i.jpg
http://popdirt.com/images/misc/Lady_Gaga_teacup.jpg

9eagle9
12th March 2012, 12:30
And if I burned a bull on your front lawn would you accept scriptural evidence as my entitlement to do so? Or smited you for some scripturally quoted reason.

Snark aside, we have enough evidence to support that the story of Adam and Eve isn't stricltly literal nor can be trusted as the first orgins of humans. At any rate I'm going to get so bound in that belief that is closes my eyes to any other exploration that is in alignment with the physical laws that even God doesn't break.





it is well known that women are from men

or Eve at least was one rib of Adam ; )

That is not well known, but is a myth perpetuated by the elite controllers who wrote the bible at the Council of Nicaea and had no historical basis for such a claim, and it is incongruous to make an assumption that "because" it is in the bible, then it is "well known" to be the truth. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Current genome mapping of homo sapiens sapiens and homo erectus actually proves that there were one female and twelve males that originated the current species


i'm sorry but if it's in Scripture then it's true ; )


oh have you ever wondered where the one female and the twelve males came from

unicorny
12th March 2012, 13:43
here's the same video but the sound is better

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Kristin
12th March 2012, 15:21
The glaring symbology of the pyramid needs to be looked at here. The triangle is the female equivalent to the staff or rod. It is a matriarch's symbol of female fertility and power. This symbol can be traced back to Sumer and now further back as more pyramids of antiquity are uncovered. When we look at this the symbol is inverted, as a woman would be standing on her head... legs would be reaching for the sky (number 11?)... why is this? Perhaps our answer is found in our DNA. Female impregnation from above. These large pyramidal structures found all over the world showing the female acceptance of an "above" impregnation, DNA combination, higher power.

As to the rib of Adam, the same story is told in Sumer. However, according to Stichen's work and those of many colleges and academic Sumerian researchers... the rib came from Eve. Fascinating stuff.

From the Heart,
Wormhole

gripreaper
13th March 2012, 00:38
Here's a fairly comprehensive video on the origin's of man, for those who are interested.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcJJhH-84kw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjp9iERBLu8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_V2c_kPTyM

Ounce you are able to embrace that the bible is the elite banksters playbook, your journey of awakening begins.

RedeZra
13th March 2012, 00:39
And if I burned a bull on your front lawn would you accept scriptural evidence as my entitlement to do so? Or smited you for some scripturally quoted reason.



the act of burning bulls in Ancient Israel was a very precise sacrificial ritual


God would want the Israelites to worship Him in mental prayer and meditation

among all the cultures of the old world which were steeped in sacrifices


but Israel needed some form of tangible worship like their neighbours

and God knew that it was not yet time to worship in spirit and truth

but since Christ it is


smite what you want

but God might smite you if you try to smite me ; )





Snark aside, we have enough evidence to support that the story of Adam and Eve isn't stricltly literal nor can be trusted as the first orgins of humans. At any rate I'm going to get so bound in that belief that is closes my eyes to any other exploration that is in alignment with the physical laws that even God doesn't break.


the establishment has evidence

Scripture has truth


generally God doesn't break His spiritual and physical laws

but He can and miracles mean that He does


if you think really hard about the origin of life

then you will see God sayin to you

Yes it is I

nearing
13th March 2012, 01:10
:rolleyes:



And if I burned a bull on your front lawn would you accept scriptural evidence as my entitlement to do so? Or smited you for some scripturally quoted reason.



the act of burning bulls in Ancient Israel was a very precise sacrificial ritual


God would want the Israelites to worship Him in mental prayer and meditation

among all the cultures of the old world which were steeped in sacrifices


but Israel needed some form of tangible worship like their neighbours

and God knew that it was not yet time to worship in spirit and truth

but since Christ it is


smite what you want

but God might smite you if you try to smite me ; )





Snark aside, we have enough evidence to support that the story of Adam and Eve isn't stricltly literal nor can be trusted as the first orgins of humans. At any rate I'm going to get so bound in that belief that is closes my eyes to any other exploration that is in alignment with the physical laws that even God doesn't break.


the establishment has evidence

Scripture has truth


generally God doesn't break His spiritual and physical laws

but He can and miracles mean that He does


if you think really hard about the origin of life

then you will see God sayin to you

Yes it is I

Unified Serenity
13th March 2012, 01:11
The bible was NOT written in English. English is a very poor translation actually, and if you read in the ancient texts, God took the curve from Adam. It does not say "rib". It says curve. As far as I know that could mean the double helix feminine DNA genes were taken from Adam. Adam was created in the image of God/dess and thus if the woman was taken from Adam then God/dess has both male and female attributes / energy. I do not believe God has a penis or a vagina and that the male and female aspects has more to do with certain proclivities and natural strengths. When the feminine was taken from Adam he became less than the image of God/dess, and that's one reason I think he's a bit jealous, be careful what you ask for as the old saying goes.

The woman received the ability to bear life, and the man lost a certain connection to God/dess. Male and Female are both aspects of God/dess and neither is better. The one who conned Eve was not a serpent in the garden either, but a "Shining" one. Again, the original manuscripts have the word as "Nachash" and depending on where the accent is on that word it can be interpreted as snake or shining one like brass is shiny. In the manuscripts it is shining one. In Corinthians we are told that Satan comes as an angel of light. He is also called the light bearer. So, the shining one picks Eve to seduce and let's her seduce Adam. She then conceives and bears twins children as in Genesis it says she gave birth then continued in labor and had another child thus Cain and Abel were twins.

Of course I believe Cain was the son of Lucifer and Abel the son of Adam. You can read about that in my Kenites Study.

Cilka
13th March 2012, 02:55
Are we suppose to discuss how hot Michael is? You are thinking like typical human species under the control of the endocrine system.

RedeZra
13th March 2012, 07:57
Of course I believe Cain was the son of Lucifer and Abel the son of Adam. You can read about that in my Kenites Study.


And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; She shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise her heel." - Genesis 3:15

Satan the shining one or the light bearer has a bloodline here on earth

Curt
13th March 2012, 10:37
Of course I believe Cain was the son of Lucifer and Abel the son of Adam. You can read about that in my Kenites Study.


And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; She shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise her heel." - Genesis 3:15

Satan the shining one or the light bearer has a bloodline here on earth

Hi RedeZra,

Are you comfortable being more specific? I guess what I'm asking is: will you name names? Who are these bloodline people?

:playball:

crested-duck
13th March 2012, 13:25
I started my insatiable quest for "truth" many years ago with religion/bible studies. I now have 6 different bibles and a 2 1/2"thick Strongg's concordance that translates to original languages that bibles were written . Anyone interested in buying some useless literary works? After years of more frustration and not getting answers, but more confusion, lies , and unanswered questions I realised that I was examineing the symptoms of ,and not the actual disease being unknowingly inflicted upon humanity- As far as you redezra- we've sparred before and I personally think you are still as ignorant as ever, as far as I'm concerned. Maybe you should pray to that false god of yours for the power to admit you bought fully into lies and deciet, and forgive yourself, then give us all a break with this useless bulls**t you're preaching. As I said months earlier ,you are preaching to the wrong audience because we've educated ourselves and you need to go find the ignorant people that can not think for themselves. Let me be perfectly clear here: liars, decievers, and brainwashed ignoramous's totally piss me off and my spiritual discernment tells me you are all three in one entity. PS - when someone sh*ts in my bowl of cheerio's I throw the whole bowl directly at them. Back to the topic of this thread now because I have something I need help understanding- My grandma was born and raised jewish, and somehow survived holocaust. Brought to usa and eventually married a english man that was'nt jewish, and they had 8 children. When she died of cancer, she also sat on the top of the pyramid of the local order of eastern star, and pres of local senior citizen org. and my grandpa was military, and was 32nd or 33rd degree mason that went insane after obtaining that degree of status. I have'nt had anything to do with anyone from that family since she died as most of my relatives are snotty a**holes that act like eliteists. I've never seen so many odd people that gave me bad vibes in one place, at one time , as I did at her funeral. It was exactly the same when had grandpas funeral years later also. The vibes were telling me to get away from these evil people as quickly as possible you do not belong here at all. It not only effected me emotionally, but got physically sick both times. My grandparents always treated me with love and compassion , but she also told me I was different than all their kids and my cousins, many times over the years. Just remembered something odd- after grandpa has his breakdown he began talking about things he was'nt supposed to , so he was taken to va hospital where they permanently fried his brain with electro shock therapy, and he never spoke another word till he died there many years later.

9eagle9
13th March 2012, 13:47
Smite me God you auld bastard.

Not much intimidated by God's wrath. I have fairly good portion of it myself.



And if I burned a bull on your front lawn would you accept scriptural evidence as my entitlement to do so? Or smited you for some scripturally quoted reason.



the act of burning bulls in Ancient Israel was a very precise sacrificial ritual


God would want the Israelites to worship Him in mental prayer and meditation

among all the cultures of the old world which were steeped in sacrifices


but Israel needed some form of tangible worship like their neighbours

and God knew that it was not yet time to worship in spirit and truth

but since Christ it is


smite what you want

but God might smite you if you try to smite me ; )





Snark aside, we have enough evidence to support that the story of Adam and Eve isn't stricltly literal nor can be trusted as the first orgins of humans. At any rate I'm going to get so bound in that belief that is closes my eyes to any other exploration that is in alignment with the physical laws that even God doesn't break.


the establishment has evidence

Scripture has truth


generally God doesn't break His spiritual and physical laws

but He can and miracles mean that He does


if you think really hard about the origin of life

then you will see God sayin to you

Yes it is I

9eagle9
13th March 2012, 13:52
pant, pant




Are we suppose to discuss how hot Michael is? You are thinking like typical human species under the control of the endocrine system.

Sebastion
13th March 2012, 13:56
Feelin them oats this morning I see.........lol




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Are we suppose to discuss how hot Michael is? You are thinking like typical human species under the control of the endocrine system.

Kristin
13th March 2012, 14:15
Did I fail to mention that Michael is HOT?

From the Heart,
Wormhole

9eagle9
13th March 2012, 14:36
My farrier looks just like him but has blue eyes

There some hormonal markers singing.

On any given day we all in the barn with messy pony tails and covered in sweat, mud and dust but on farrier day the ladies troop in wth false eyelashes and full body coat of makeup spotless breeches and boots to bend over the farriers arm to proffess deep and profound interest in a smellly **** covered hoof. We don't give a darn about hooves unless something is wrong with them, and basically just a part of life that collects ****, rots, cracks--like an extension of your home. Just another then to clean and maintain and put expensive shoes on to be ruined in six weeks time but on farrier day hormones transform the profound breadth and depth of a smellly horse foot to the point a hoof will itself out into realms of philosophical and religious overtones. You know for certain with foot comes up to propped up by one beefy arm you are about to find God staring back at you.

It is all disgusting woman behavior and I should know because I do it too.

Oh the barfy flirt talk, Oh wow look at that , that's great hoof!

Oh and his eyes will just light up.

we're a disgusting species the whole lot us.

unicorny
13th March 2012, 14:56
finally got round to listening to this, Michael speaks a lot of sense, even though I find some of his links /processing really quite tenuous he is still well worth listening too.

RedeZra
13th March 2012, 20:10
As far as you redezra- we've sparred before and I personally think you are still as ignorant as ever, as far as I'm concerned. Maybe you should pray to that false god of yours for the power to admit you bought fully into lies and deciet, and forgive yourself, then give us all a break with this useless bulls**t you're preaching. As I said months earlier ,you are preaching to the wrong audience because we've educated ourselves and you need to go find the ignorant people that can not think for themselves. Let me be perfectly clear here: liars, decievers, and brainwashed ignoramous's totally piss me off and my spiritual discernment tells me you are all three in one entity.

i'm not speakin to you ; )

RedeZra
13th March 2012, 20:14
And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; She shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise her heel." - Genesis 3:15

Satan the shining one or the light bearer has a bloodline here on earth

Hi RedeZra,

Are you comfortable being more specific? I guess what I'm asking is: will you name names? Who are these bloodline people?



well they could be the PTB

modwiz
13th March 2012, 23:41
As far as you redezra- we've sparred before and I personally think you are still as ignorant as ever, as far as I'm concerned. Maybe you should pray to that false god of yours for the power to admit you bought fully into lies and deciet, and forgive yourself, then give us all a break with this useless bulls**t you're preaching. As I said months earlier ,you are preaching to the wrong audience because we've educated ourselves and you need to go find the ignorant people that can not think for themselves. Let me be perfectly clear here: liars, decievers, and brainwashed ignoramous's totally piss me off and my spiritual discernment tells me you are all three in one entity.

i'm not speakin to you ; )

Although you hardly need to be defended, there is a point worth making here, IMO. I do not think you are a liar, deceiver or an ignoramus. (Careful parsing of words alert) Furthermore, I do not see you as a bullshyter either. BS, has to issue from the mouth of someone attempting to lie or deceive. I am probably tedious in restating some technical and theological differences with you, Red, but I will further reiterate that I find you a good sport with a good sense of humor, thick-skinned without losing subtlety and an excellent scholar of your material. I do not think you are in the wrong forum at all. You are our bible Christian guy and your ability to mix in with the rest of us demonstrates your being a part of the bigger whole that we are. I have met many a Jesus type 'guy' and you are unique. Your avatar is especially endearing as it is from one of my favorite movies, Dogma.

I am not trying to encourage you, you don't need any.:P I just want you to feel welcome. I should make a disclaimer here. I am an ordained interfaith minister. Two years investment of my time and spirit to get my education. As such, I am committed to being open minded about people's spiritual proclivities. Other members have not taken a vow to honor others' perspectives as I have and it is well within their right to speak their minds.

Rights and good manners are not always in harmony though. Secure adults can handle the outrageous slings and arrows.

Mike
13th March 2012, 23:57
As far as you redezra- we've sparred before and I personally think you are still as ignorant as ever, as far as I'm concerned. Maybe you should pray to that false god of yours for the power to admit you bought fully into lies and deciet, and forgive yourself, then give us all a break with this useless bulls**t you're preaching. As I said months earlier ,you are preaching to the wrong audience because we've educated ourselves and you need to go find the ignorant people that can not think for themselves. Let me be perfectly clear here: liars, decievers, and brainwashed ignoramous's totally piss me off and my spiritual discernment tells me you are all three in one entity.

i'm not speakin to you ; )

Although you hardly need to be defended, there is a point worth making here, IMO. I do not think you are a liar, deceiver or an ignoramus. (Careful parsing of words alert) Furthermore, I do not see you as a bullshyter either. BS, has to issue from the mouth of someone attempting to lie or deceive. I am probably tedious in restating some technical and theological differences with you, Red, but I will further reiterate that I find you a good sport with a good sense of humor, thick-skinned without losing subtlety and an excellent scholar of your material. I do not think you are in the wrong forum at all. You are our bible Christian guy and your ability to mix in with the rest of us demonstrates your being a part of the bigger whole that we are. I have met many a Jesus type 'guy' and you are unique. Your avatar is especially endearing as it is from one of my favorite movies, Dogma.

I am not trying to encourage you, you don't need any.:P I just want you to feel welcome. I should make a disclaimer here. I am an ordained interfaith minister. Two years investment of my time and spirit to get my education. As such, I am committed to being open minded about people's spiritual proclivities. Other members have not taken a vow to honor others' perspectives as I have and it is well within their right to speak their minds.

Rights and good manners are not always in harmony though. Secure adults can handle the outrageous slings and arrows.


i'll 2nd this.

well said, wise wizard.:wizard:

observer
14th March 2012, 00:40
I would really like to see how the members felt about the Tsarion video, void of all the Biblical debate.

The few Biblical references in the Tsarion video were allegorical in context.

This Tsarion video was very informative, but it was not about the Bible. Let's try to keep on topic.

There is a thread on this forum about the Bible. Why don't we try to contain this biblical rhetoric in that thread?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35019-the-Bible

Click-on the 'quote>>forward' icon to view my comment in the Biblical Thread

seko
14th March 2012, 01:37
If women today are kept down due to this ancient crime, what do we do about it?

the great crime was that women killed off all the "earthly" men so they (the power structure behind churches & other power structures) hide behind (now) a patriarchial front (which is false)....

this "crime" happened because (A SMALL SUB SET OF) women are quicker to "envy" and they envy men their strength (even though they have hteir own strengths) I'm only about an hour in right now, this was discussed a bit before the hour mark.

apparently all people are now hybrids & "men" as they historically were are gone due to this genocidal (tho sex based) attack..

then the nephalim abandoned the earth & women were stuck with out men for muscle & missing the nephalims technology.. so we repopulated.

& we are a slave race too apparently (or at least men are).


perhaps there is a genetic memory of this crime & thats why the roles are as they are (Tsarion says its a genetic memory, thats why women are treated somewhat like second class citizens)


I find it interesting, can't wait to see the final product.

I dont see women as second class citizens, in fact I know that women hwo choose a carreer over family make more money than men do & really accell in every way, I also don't get racism either so maybe I'm just wierd...

so I don't see how anything can be done about it, i guess we can keep feminizing men for reperations? haha

I see a very important point here Tegrat-Target and all of us would benefit if men learn to open their female side, understand it and use it.
So do women with their male side......balance!

Because clearly we cling to our side and don't understand the other which we all have.....but do we know that???

RedeZra
14th March 2012, 03:14
Although you hardly need to be defended, there is a point worth making here, IMO. I do not think you are a liar, deceiver or an ignoramus. (Careful parsing of words alert) Furthermore, I do not see you as a bullshyter either. BS, has to issue from the mouth of someone attempting to lie or deceive. I am probably tedious in restating some technical and theological differences with you, Red, but I will further reiterate that I find you a good sport with a good sense of humor, thick-skinned without losing subtlety and an excellent scholar of your material. I do not think you are in the wrong forum at all. You are our bible Christian guy and your ability to mix in with the rest of us demonstrates your being a part of the bigger whole that we are. I have met many a Jesus type 'guy' and you are unique. Your avatar is especially endearing as it is from one of my favorite movies, Dogma.

I am not trying to encourage you, you don't need any.:P I just want you to feel welcome. I should make a disclaimer here. I am an ordained interfaith minister. Two years investment of my time and spirit to get my education. As such, I am committed to being open minded about people's spiritual proclivities. Other members have not taken a vow to honor others' perspectives as I have and it is well within their right to speak their minds.

Rights and good manners are not always in harmony though. Secure adults can handle the outrageous slings and arrows.


tnx for the words Wiz ; )

and tnx to Chinaski for second time support of general decency

and to all Avalonians who don't applaud personal derogatory remarks


i am the buddy Jesus guy around here and Bible thumper

but i'm not the only one

as i saw one passin by last week


i seldom copy paste the whole lot when respondin to it

but this is such a beautiful well put post and defence

that i could not find a word to remove


Wiz i think you'd make a good advocate in Heaven ; )

gripreaper
14th March 2012, 03:45
Wiz i think you'd make a good advocate in Heaven ; )

So modwiz earned a seat closer to the front row in the throne room through his good works?

RedeZra
14th March 2012, 04:37
Wiz i think you'd make a good advocate in Heaven ; )

So modwiz earned a seat closer to the front row in the throne room through his good works?

nope just for defendin buddy Jesus ; )

crested-duck
15th March 2012, 21:05
tnx for the words Wiz ; )

and tnx to Chinaski for second time support of general decency

and to all Avalonians who don't applaud personal derogatory remarks


i am the buddy Jesus guy around here and Bible thumper

but i'm not the only one

as i saw one passin by last week


i seldom copy paste the whole lot when respondin to it

but this is such a beautiful well put post and defence

that i could not find a word to remove


Wiz i think you'd make a good advocate in Heaven ; )

You all need to read this post to understand! http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?42463-Serious-Critical-Thinkink-Part-2&highlight=serious+critical+thinking+part Serious Critical Thinkink Part 2
I decided to create this thread because our thoughts,opinions, and what we hold as truths are constantly changeing/evolveing ! If you did not read original or need a refresher it can be found here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...tical+thinking Now knowing that we've reckoned on these subjects and come to our very own conclusions on each and every one, now what do we do ??

I'm going to reitterate here and say"right,wrong,or indifferent, we have to, and do, make decisions every minute of every day"! The intention of most decisions is,and rightly should be, is to do the right thing at that moment. It never works out right 100% and someone somewhere will always find fault somehow or another,heck I say thing and do things I end up regretting later all the time.I've been around long enough in this reality to know that's just the way it is. Some people are shy and reserved, others are blatently honest like myself, and everybody is just a little different in their ways. Many things come into this factor, many different perspectives to look at here.

For example my latest loosing my cool with redezra over his answer for everything coming out of a bible. Was I rude in my reply?Yes! Could I have tried to communicate it in a gentler way? Yes! Did I upset people with that response? Well I know it upset him, and that was the point ! It was intentional, and it was my version of tough love. But why would I do that to him? Well you see I spent a lot of time and effort with studying religion and different bibles-then I did critical thinking and EVOLVED, and my thoughts and truths on that subject totally changed.

Now I see redezra as a man stuck and not able to evolve because of his indoctrinated beliefs, and I feel sorry for him and want to snap him out of his skewed perception at this point in his journey because I feel he's on the road to confusion and lies that will eventually be his demise.- So who am I, and what gives me the right to act this way?

My human name is Rob and I've been here almost 48 years now, I've made way more mistakes and learned lessons the hard way, than I can remember or care to discuss, my communication skills still leave a lot to be desired, and are misunderstood by many. I know the truth and fully understand a thing or two about a thing or two. And I will humbly and gladly admit there's no way I'll ever figure everythig out, as everything is moveing, changeing, and evolveing constantly. In the end I'm just a soul looking to connect with other souls and help when and where I can, and like everyone else here i seek unconditional love in all it's different shapes and forms.

Now as the weather is getting nice, and I'm a outside kind of soul, I'm sure that I'll be spending less time here at PA. I may dissapear for days or weeks at a time, but there is still a soul connection with PA for me at this time.

But remember that we are all evolveing individually at different rates of progress in our realitys, and our differences are what make life interestng, and maybe just maybe, Pie and others are leaving because they've evolved to the next step in their journeys. If that is in fact the truth then we sould be happy for them and be gratefull to have had the experiences we did with them while we had the chance. The odd and misunderstood seeds planted by many, will not be seen again by the planter, as sometimes the ground needs to evolve a little bit longer before it becomes the right time to pop up, grow and evolve into something better than expected.

unicorny
16th March 2012, 08:48
Well put Rob, I'll check out those other threads

westhill
10th May 2012, 17:23
You are your own solution. Michael Tsarion's six hour presentation "The Posthuman World," filmed in Melbourne Australia, November 2011.
Danke Michael.

http://www.unslaved.com
http://www.mtsar.com

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sigma6
10th June 2012, 15:03
Great 6 part series starting with these two YouTubes - a definitive, historical analysis, of the Egyptian, Hebraic, origins of the original Secret Societies to the Freemasons of today.

This is the reason why the world we live in is an aquarium of pure bullsh**.
It is specifically because of these people, and their covetous greed and secrecy,
the definition of psychopathy and satanic evil.

Take advantage (download if you can) of these Red Ice presentations, as
Henrik has a tendency to only share the first half of episodes for some reason...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqNN5p6bcj4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTGtBnPoQTg

I propose to make this a Michael Tsarion thread, if you have any complete Tsarion presentations, feel free to build your library here... His work is prolific enough to deserve it's own thread imo...

ahamkara
10th June 2012, 17:30
Michael has put in countless hours researching some pretty important ideas. His work will help you wake up to the blatant symbolic manipulation all around. Pretending the stuff isn't there is a sure recipe for disaster. i think once you understand the manipulation you can begin to distance yourself from it's effects. Whether you are a conspiracy type of person or not,there is no denying the politics of control. I find his work to dovetail nicely with John Taylor Gatto's work on public education and it's true purpose ( mind control and the creation of people who unquestioningly do as they are told).

Star Tsar
10th June 2012, 18:42
This Red Ice Interview is an a important intro to your post Sigma6...




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMDw6cNxBy4&feature=player_detailpage

westhill
11th June 2012, 05:45
Here is his current series on Posthumanism. Six hours (12 if you watch twice which I did).
Recorded in Melbourne, Australia on November 19th, 2011.
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Mulder
11th June 2012, 06:27
This is a nice way for me to remember Michael. I've not listened to anything from him all year, so I'll have to start watching these videos. When I first "woke up" in 2007 I likes Michael a lot as he was easy to listin to (he doesn't scream down the microphone, etc).

westhill
12th June 2012, 16:25
Just listened to this. Back from 2007/08 but so relevant today.

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Prodigal Son
12th June 2012, 20:14
Loved this one!
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9eagle9
13th June 2012, 02:54
Not long before 2005 I journaled exactly that, radiation has greatly contributed to our fall into our darkness . Won't go into unnecessary detail pretty much what MT said, but not sure if a whole lot of people know that radiation is used as a sort of energy, a dark magic energy as well, by certain factors in the circles of world control.

(Against us....of course.)

sigma6
13th June 2012, 05:25
Classic Michael Tsarion
2012 - The Future of Mankind


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlERM0avVLg

Long but it really affected me on some level... left me with some kind of profound feeling
(don't worry, it's not about Ayn Rand (lol))

jackovesk
24th June 2012, 03:30
Jun 21, 2012

Micheal Tsarion explains the occult knowledge about Queen Elizabeth's coronation.


There's lots of Symbolism & Ritual in Royaltly, but where does it come from...? Thats the Question..!

- Micheal Tsarion


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCnfQwTQvS8&list=UUeI8jGreEEzNBoBJGqOk3Gw&index=2&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCnfQwTQvS8&list=UUeI8jGreEEzNBoBJGqOk3Gw&index=2&feature=plcp

Enjoy...

sigma6
25th June 2012, 03:16
Exploring the Occult - Michael Tsarion - Truth Frequency Radio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky4w0rVyGRY&feature=related

danceblackcatdance
25th June 2012, 11:19
Nearly through this series... found them interesting :)

"...Michael Tsarion discusses the historical significance of ancient Ireland... from the Emerald Isle to Egypt and back again full circle.... Druids and also to their destroyers... discover the origins of the world's most powerful secret societies and the New World Order they labor to create... secret facts about the royal dynasties of Britain and Europe, the Empire of Rome... Masonic influence in America... this DVD series dramatically revolutionizes our view of history and explains what can be done to combat the tyrannical forces that have long conspired to undermine truth, freedom and justice."

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and this guy's got a good Tsarion archive on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1A96E0F13DE0202A&feature=plcp) :)

D-Day
27th June 2012, 10:29
One of my personal favourites.

3 Part interview with Michael Tsarion on Red Ice Creations...

Michael Tsarion: Inauthentic Man, Outsider, Enlightenment, Ego, Self, Mass Insanity

Hour 1: Hillary Clinton, Occult Goddess, Female and Birther of NWO, Questioning Authorized History, Priests Editing History, Hidden History, Future of Mankind Video, Darker Aspects of Your Emotions, Carl Jung, Inner Psychic Turmoil, Self-Less Man, Ego Image, Discovery of Self, Erasing Your Individuality, Maggots Eating Corps, Death of Rotten System, Dharma as Knowledge, Guilt Complex, Karma as Ignorance, Chess Board, Living the Authentic Life, The Rebel, In-Authentic Relationships, Media's New Toys, Clustering With Others, Fear and Trauma, Tower of the Ego, The Outsider, Empathy with the Fallen, State of Sanity, Enlightenment Misunderstanding

Hour 2: Musician Bono and being Knighted, Dope Inc, Webster Tarpley, Why Knighthood, What is Enlightenment?, Lightness, Darkness, The Self, Creatures of the Ego, Cataclysms, Mass Trauma, Thinking, Interior Life, Idea of Who We Are, Carl Jung, Past Shock, Ego Imposter, Ego's Foundation, Peace, Ego and Chaos, Conflict, Gurus, Ego and Links to Mythology, Deconstructing the Self, Soul Creation, Selfhood, The Tribe, Know Thyself, Christ, God, Tyrants, Sick Culture, The Sorcerer, Politicians, Violence and Empowerment, The Outsider, Moral Superiority, Past and Future

Hour 3: Paul Levy, Consensus Trance, Collective Insanity, The Ego and Self, Observing, Ego Mimicking the Self, Politicians, George Bush, Disciple of Power, Fear, Possessed Human Beings, Brotherhood of the Bell, Redefining Children's Behavior, Re-Packaging Children, Fixing Children through Drugs, Ideas Projected Upon them, Anti-Social Behavior, "Normal", APA, Freud, BF Skinner, Psychoanalysis, Hollywood, Consciousness and the World, Children and Nature, Nature and Animals, Remaining a Critic, Spending Time with Animals, Healing Effects, Conformity, Evil and Natural, Dis-empowered Children, Contradictory Messages, Ego and Pisces, Committed to the Lie, Slow Suicide, Murdered Own Self, Fast Lifestyle

Here 'tis...

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wavydome
27th June 2012, 10:54
Thanks for all these videos (audios really)... I'm slowly replaying parts missed through tool uses in my workshop. Re-listening also clears up some points made... Easy access on one page helps.

The difficulty later is talking to people who never want to hear a "discouraging word". People rather keep things simple like pre-programmed behavior and single-track-thinking. Also they don't want more theories or claims about history.

westhill
17th July 2012, 11:55
NEW!! John Gibbons interviews Michael Tsarion on the Occult History of Ireland.
I love when Michael gets goin'. The pace quickens and his voice takes on fire.

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danceblackcatdance
25th July 2012, 09:27
Hello lovelies / truth seekers :)

This documentary is a belter! I'm reading the book / pdf, but might switch to the video cos i'm lazy too...

Not sure how many people have 10 hours to spare watching / listening but please just check out the intro of the 1st vid anyway... :dance:


'In Program One, of the "Origins & Oracles" series, Michael Tsarion takes us on a vivid journey back to the time of the lost continents of Atlantis and Lemuria. On this journey, timeless mysteries are unraveled and explained like never before. Masses of disinformation concerning pre-history and the origins of humanity, which have duped scholars and researchers for generations, are eradicated and we are finally able to connect the dots and comprehend how the innumerable idioms of our modern world came into being. In the tradition of Immanuel Velikovsky, Zechariah Sitchin, Jordan Maxwell, Graham Hancock and Michael Cremo, Michael Tsarion investigates the true origins of mankind and throws open doors which have been sealed for many an age.'

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Snoweagle
25th July 2012, 10:55
Excellent source for research. A springboard into ancient knowledge and beliefs. Well worth setting some time aside for viewing. As always, use as a source for your own investigations.
Buy this DVD set for your children and grandchildren - highly recommended.

markoid
26th July 2012, 08:53
Fantastic!... thank you for posting this.

westhill
26th July 2012, 17:46
Just so you know...
there is a Michael Tsarion Thread - Brotherhood of Death (compelling title) under the Conspiracy Forum
which as loads of more and recent radio and YouTube presentations.

Cartomancer
26th July 2012, 17:50
Michael Tsarion has a great vantage point from which to educate us. He has an encyclopedic knowledge of history and the occult. He along with Jordan Maxwell have led the pack in educating us in the ways the occult is being used against us. Whether they have occult beliefs or not is inconsequential. They are on the side of freedom, ending the fed, and deconstructing the imperial chains that bind us all.

write4change
26th July 2012, 20:52
I have listened to this entire 10 hours not once but twice in the last two days while I did other things. It is an immense amount of material that is well worth getting in as much as once dose as possible. I am a historian and there are mistakes about American history and some connecting the dots feels over the top.

That being said he has gathered all in one spot things I have spent ten years researching in my own way. One of the things I most appreciated was his gathering all these books together that addressed the same topics and particularly those written over the last two centuries. One I am going to see if I can obtain it.

This really gave me the opportunity to feel what I think is truth and is not. I would find it an interesting experiment on Avalon if people could spend the hours on Charles they did -- spending hours on this thread to explain what feels right to them and what does not.

The issue I am most fascinated with is the idea that is was Lemuriea that fought Atlantis and why. I don't think I have run into this conjecture any where else. If this is true it would have huge implications for this time now.

The other thing I found interesting was all the information he provided from totally different sources about the earth being surrounded by a field barrier that cannot be broken through and the attempts to do so. I have read this from many different places, but not attempts to break through. I think I read years ago about astromers being able to observe this barrier.

There are about two or three threads I follow religiously and sometimes get lost and takes me awhile to catch up. A serious seeker reads the entire thread to make valid judgments. I feel I have no influence on Avalon but would like some serious seekers that I respect here to check this out. I feel some of this stuff is so mind blowing that it will not stay up on the net.

I have not been a follower of Tsarion nor have I been that impressed by the interviews I have run into. What I am impressed by is the amount of information and time he has spent in this presentation and he has presented it all to the public for free. I have a real problem on so called gurus keeping knowledge from the public unless they are paid. That is how we got here. And it is how they continue to repress us, if you are struggling for the basics you do not have time to buy knowledge or time to spend learning. For this reason alone, I think people should give this a try. One thing he said is absolutely true---this is a lot simplier and easier than the what he has done to put it together.

danceblackcatdance
26th July 2012, 22:43
Just so you know...
there is a Michael Tsarion Thread - Brotherhood of Death (compelling title) under the Conspiracy Forum
which as loads of more and recent radio and YouTube presentations.

yes and thanks, think i've posted stuff in that thread too but thought this work was particularly interesting, not that everyone would, but didn't want it to get lost amongst the rest and so presenting opportunity for fresh focus :)


Michael Tsarion has a great vantage point from which to educate us. He has an encyclopedic knowledge of history and the occult. He along with Jordan Maxwell have led the pack in educating us in the ways the occult is being used against us. Whether they have occult beliefs or not is inconsequential. They are on the side of freedom, ending the fed, and deconstructing the imperial chains that bind us all.

I have never looked into Jordan Maxwell... but you always come across to me as having a very discerning mind and wide spread knowledge, so checking him out will be my next port of call.....


I have listened to this entire 10 hours not once but twice in the last two days while I did other things. It is an immense amount of material that is well worth getting in as much as once dose as possible. I am a historian and there are mistakes about American history and some connecting the dots feels over the top.

nice one, i usually give something good a listen to twice :) i am pleased that it resonated with you.. it seemed pretty compelling to me. i'm sure there are some mistakes, it is 10 hours of material after all and his version of his-story...


I feel I have no influence on Avalon but would like some serious seekers that I respect here to check this out. I feel some of this stuff is so mind blowing that it will not stay up on the net.

i'll second that, obviously :)

would like to respond further but its late here and need to sleep...

Arpheus
26th July 2012, 22:56
I read the book i got it in pdf on my laptop,cant really watch these videos tho,since i dont have an internet connection at home and wtching videos drains the battery on my laptop too damn fast,plus the connections at free wi-fi places like macdonalds and such arent that great and i would feel really weird watching these videos where there are other people around me LOL.I may read the book again at some point,anyone has any other of his books for free download in pdf somewhere??

Cartomancer
26th July 2012, 22:57
I think Michael discusses how Jordan Maxwell is a friend and mentor to him in this Coast to Coast interview. It makes sense that they have similar views. I see people here and there who criticize these two for being into the occult. Clearly they like David Icke are against the same things many of us here are regardless of faith or beliefs. Check the interview here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zlapm9tuH4

danceblackcatdance
27th July 2012, 08:29
...anyone has any other of his books for free download in pdf somewhere??
Cant find much else but I have "Irish Origins of Civilization Vol1 - Michael Tsarion" if you want it :)

Demeisen
3rd August 2012, 14:14
Kudos to Michael Tsarion for the hard work he's been doing for this information. And thank you for sharing it. It was very interesting. However I must say that there were couple of things that seem to be quite contradicting with other sources. But then again, I'm not a researcher.

- Humans have never landed on moon because there is a quarantine barrier around the earth.

I have read about this quarantine before. However I remember the supposed barrier was around our solar system, not around earth.
Also there are some first hand reports that humans have bases on moon and mars and they are accessed by jump gates AND physical vessels. Tsarions claim that human can't leave earth would invalidate a great deal of other information sources.
I also think there is enough evidence that the moon landing was real.

- UFO sightings we have been seeing are earth based vessels. There are no other alien influences on earth except the original Atlantians (and their offspring).

What about all the countless ET contacts? I recall Tsarion didn't deny that we have been visited by other races, but the way he presented it suggested that we are mostly isolated and non ET influenced here (I don't consider the Atlantians as ET's now). Maybe I interpreted wrong?

- Reptilians are not an extraterrestrial race, but bio-engineered on earth by ancient Atlantians.

I think this is very contradicting claim. It's been reported by countless of sources that the reptilians are ET based. As Alex Collier has learned from his Andromeda friends, the reptilians are an ancient race originated somewhere from Orion (correct me if I recall wrong). They have been causing lots of havoc in other star systems also and there has been plenty of war going on between them and other civilizations.

Anyway, these are just couple of things that got me thinking.. There may be others too, but I didn't make notes while watched the series.
Thanks for reading

Star Mariner
3rd August 2012, 15:29
You echo my thoughts entirely there Demeisen. This is very interesting stuff, and follows my own research in a very close way until he starts going in a variety of strange tangents that seem to spoil the overall narrative.

Specifically as Demeisen says the quarantine zone that restricts our movements to this planet. Incorrect I'm afraid: the Apollo Moonshot was quite real. However, read the Ra Materials and you will indeed learn of a quarantine barrier around the Earth, but its not to keep us confined here, but to protect the Earth from any further negative outside interference from affecting us. This barrier is not a perfect screen, it can on occasion be breached by outside forces because a completely impenetrable barrier would violate the law of Free Will.

Regarding what he says about the Reptilians, I don't know for certain (who does?). The fact that he cites many examples of Reptilian/Serpent (intelligent) lifeforms scattered throughout myth and ancient account certainly suggests they have been here a long time. But based on the information that I have gathered, and followed, it seems most plausible to me that this is a non-indigenous race; an outside influence, and to some degree not all that benevolent.

I believe the original builders, architects of the genome Homo-Sapiens (the seeders of this world) created us in their own image (Human-like extra-terrestrials), or near as like with the Ape as a template. Any later interference/meddling/offshoots to those genetic programs (resulting in mutations, giants, other beasts reported in myth and legend) were perhaps not the original intent and were likely perversions, or at least the work of less enlightened after-races such as the Atlanteans. So no, I do not believe such sentient Reptilian lifeforms were the work of Earth-based genetic manipulations as reported by Tsarion.

sigma6
5th August 2012, 05:33
Saw this on another link and thought to add it to the 'library'....

Michael Tsarion - Origins & Oracles - Atlantis, Alien Visitation & Genetic Manipulation - 1/3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcw5YpeTd4I&feature=player_embedded

westhill
14th August 2012, 18:03
Too bad Michael is not crossing the ocean for this one. No doubt it will be available to view on YouTube.
Doncaster has some beautiful ruins. How amazing would it be to wander through!
http://michaeltsarion.com/page2.html

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Roche Abbey
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Conisbrough Castle
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Star Tsar
14th August 2012, 19:14
Saw this on another link and thought to add it to the 'library'....

Michael Tsarion - Origins & Oracles - Atlantis, Alien Visitation & Genetic Manipulation - 1/3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcw5YpeTd4I&feature=player_embedded



This series has soooooo much info I had to listen to it three times!
Nice One

danceblackcatdance
18th August 2012, 09:41
hiya.. not been able to participate for a while but interesting reading comments / pleased that the vids were of interest :)

just wanted to say that in 10 hours of 'his-story' and presented research am sure there will be some contentious details / stuff that he is not accurate on... however, i get the impression (not that i know the man) that Tsarion would be thrilled to be proved wrong, as he is seemingly only questing for the truth / seeking to wake the sleepers and not to indoctrinate.

so, thx for the interesting comments... there were some things that i wasn't sure on too, so good to hear other perspectives always...

anyway, some really interesting correlations with what Tsarion is saying and the info in The Emerald Tablets of Thoth (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48676-The-Emerald-Tablets-of-Thoth-Hidden-Human-History-Deeper-Explained-PDF) thread by ExomatrixTV... definitely worth checking out (imo)

:) :)

deridan
18th August 2012, 12:04
like so many loose match-sticks, the facts can be arranged in any story.

thanks for many 'factual tracks'
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it should not be any of our purposes to deride,

but let us move with the 'fact sticks' to break past our first barrier.

Only if we can agree that we are a total unity of mankind can be move onto the barrier question... its angles and such forth

Raven
19th August 2012, 04:28
very useful post - finally had time to listen -lots of food for thought - thank you for posting

westhill
2nd October 2012, 13:29
This is an interview (Nov. 2011) during his travels in Australia speaking on Posthumanism.
Always we are given new information.

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Here's the beginning of Michael Tsarion's six hour presentation The Posthuman World
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unicorny
10th October 2012, 09:44
Thanks for posting this :)
it's not far from me so I will definitely be going along and I haven't seen it advertised anywhere else


Too bad Michael is not crossing the ocean for this one. No doubt it will be available to view on YouTube.
Doncaster has some beautiful ruins. How amazing would it be to wander through!
http://michaeltsarion.com/page2.html

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Roche Abbey
http://providerfiles.thedms.co.uk/eandapics/ys/1582130_1.jpg

Conisbrough Castle
http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/content/properties/conisbrough-castle/gallery-for-conisbrough-castle/gallerydscf0006j.jpg

Earth Angel
10th October 2012, 14:47
In keeping with Michaels Egypt Ireland connection, the latest message from Montague Keen.......yes this is channeled for those of you who need that disclaimer.......Michael Tsarions work is often mentioned in these messages

http://www.montaguekeen.com/page4.html full message here




IT'S EASIER TO FOOL SOMEBODY, THAN TO CONVINCE THEM THAT THEY'VE BEEN FOOLED.
Mark Twain

What my wife did last Sunday was of great importance. To the many who took part, I say a heartfelt "thank you". As you stood on the Hill of Tara, the clouds separated, the sky became blue over Tara, and the energy was powerful. It is important to acknowledge the connection in times past between Egypt and Ireland. This was written out of history by those who took control of your world. The truth of those times explains a lot, for this is when the real history was changed completely and Irish history was stolen.

Many travelled from other countries to take part on this historic day. The World of Spirit showed that they, too, had a part to play, as there was no rain or cloud over Tara during the ceremonies.

The ceremony* to remove "The Curse of Patrick from Tara" was long overdue. Now, his influence has been removed forever. Patrick is responsible for death and destruction. He condemned the Irish people to live (or should I say, exist) under the direct control of the Vatican. He destroyed all that was good in a people who lived by love and learning. His memory should be erased forever. It is time to face the facts and take back your sovereignty. Then the world will learn of IESA, the one they usurped and whose name they changed to Jesus. They even created a fictional family for him. This fraud was forced upon you by the armies of Rome. It is time for Rome to face exposure, and for people to become the spiritual beings that they are.

genevieve
10th October 2012, 17:21
sigma6--

Can you please tell me how to download the video?

Love Tsarion! Thank you (and everyone) for these vids.


Peace Love Joy & Harmony,
Genevieve

ExomatrixTV
16th October 2012, 15:04
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westhill
16th October 2012, 15:41
But wait, there's more...
http://michaeltsarion.com/page3.html

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westhill
25th October 2012, 01:43
Critical Mass Radio in association with We Are Change Manchester and Freedom NorthWest.
Now it's our Turn!

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sigma6
25th December 2012, 17:22
sigma6--
Can you please tell me how to download the video?
Love Tsarion! Thank you (and everyone) for these vids.
Peace Love Joy & Harmony,
Genevieve

Hi Genevieve,

Sorry haven't been to this post in a long time...
But if you want to download the videos, there are programs known as FLV downloaders,
it's probably better that I answer it now, as I originally used to install a version of IE8
and access the temporary internet folder, which is a bit tricky for some and now hidden in IE9
But I have found the best application, or at least what I use is a program called...
aTube Catcher (2.9.1347) It is a small footprint install, and has built in conversion options
but just set it to to "no conversion" and you will still have to pick what size download you want

Best wishes...

sigma6
25th December 2012, 17:45
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Moses is Akhenaton, Real Origin Of Isreal Story...

The relationship between "Isreal" and Egypt,
God's "Chosen People" originated from, descendants of Egypt

Makes a lot of sense,
Why Britain, US, Christianity so obsessed with Egyptian History,
(like why not Sumerian culture instead??)
Because they were Egyptians! They were the cast out, were also the Hyksos,
re-inventing themselves many times starting I think with Hebrews (?)
(from foreigner) And then Is-Ra-El The Bible is Egyptian history
in metaphor, the names have been changed to protect the maybe
not so innocent.... hmm

Complete 6 part series, very hard to follow the way this guy titled them.
Pretty good history lesson of the big picture.


Michael Tsarion. The Religious Dialectic. 1/6 Red Ice Creations

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Michael Tsarion. Rise of Priestarchy. 2/6 Red Ice Creations

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Michael Tsarion. Biblical Covenants. 3/6 Red Ice Creations
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP7vsn9hvF0

Michael Tsarion. Akhenaton and the Myth of Israel. 4/6 Red Ice Creations
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dex0qtCBq-k

Michael Tsarion. Psycology Moses & Athenaton. 5/6 Red Ice Creations
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Amq0LXc4jo

Michael Tsarion. Akhenaten and Hijacked History. 6/6 Red Ice Creations
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai920Unh86w

Arrowwind
25th December 2012, 18:30
So are there two paths in Masonry?

In my work as a nurse I took care of a 32nd degee Mason in his last two months of life. He was a remarkable patient, both he and his wife were so genuine and compassionate to staff and to each other. Although in his distressed moments the man could be quite cranky he as always full of apologies and kind words for the people around him when he could get past his pain and distress. I enjoyed caring for them immensely and he confided in me some of his pround unanswered questions in life, upon his deathbed, that showed me the inclinations of his heart.

His son was also a 32nd degree mason ( Scotish Rite) who was in a high level positon in the running of the Scottish Rite Hospital in Salt Lake City. I have taken many patients to that hospital over the years. It specializes in care for children who have pretty severe physical limitations providing surgery, physical therapy, braces, artifical limbs, wheelchairs, etc. etc. to children with absolutley no cost to their families. Its a huge huge hospital systems with facilities in many major cities all operating with monies from the donations of Freemasons.

My father was a low level Mason. When he died at the age of 41 from an heart attach while out hunting, leaving a wife and 3 children, 2 quite young, the Masons gathered together a nice cash gift for my mother, $10,000 I believe, and back in 1967 that was not small change.

The Masons in the small town that I currently live in, the Masons work diligently to feed and clothe and supply medical needs to the local folks.

We must look always with discernment at those people who surround us and those who hold the pillars of culture and humanity in place. All people and all organizations are multifaceted crystalizations with people of many levels of consciousness playing out.

Personally I feel that the 33 degree path that requries huge levels of service to move up the ladder is not a dark force, but a force that plays out their personal and individual fears and beliefs about the dark force and what needs to be done to stand up to it. My fathers work as a volunteer fireman was intrinsically linked to his requirements for working his masonic path.

I also had a dear friend who was a 7th degree mason who was a great help to me at one point in my life, who gave me geat support and encouragement as I changed my path into the health profession. He was also an astrologer, and a very good one.

The old paradigm says that the dark must be overcome in war of minds, war of blood, wars of power. The new paragdigm that people are moving into is that to overcome the dark one must merely be light and love and project that out. As we move into the bronze age we will see more shifts in the overall consciousness of such organizations like the Masons and the nature of the work that they do and just how they approach the dark force.

Sometimes I think the greatest workings of the dark force is to confound that which we do have that is good and right so that the people ar pertetually confused and have difficulty focusing their light and love and compassion for life into action.

CdnSirian
25th December 2012, 19:00
"Sometimes I think the greatest workings of the dark force is to confound that which we do have that is good and right so that the people ar pertetually confused and have difficulty focusing their light and love and compassion for life into action."

I think this is true. I love information and learning more, more, more. But once in a while I have to step back and cross index details or viewpoints, as I find myself feeling ungrounded. This can be quite damaging if it goes unobserved.

161803398
25th December 2012, 22:07
I understand from a friend of mine in England who is a writer that the Masons in England were infiltrated by satanists in the 40s, I believe. In any event, there was some change in the English masonic lodges, not the Scottish, around that time.

I also heard a very old story from Finland that there was a time when it was so cold in Northern Europe that the people could not live there and they moved down to the equator until the climate changed.

sigma6
26th December 2012, 00:09
Bill Schnoebelen reveals the Occult of illuminati

The Light Behind Freemasonry illuminati

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I guess it just depends on where on the pyramid you are. There are many good Christians and Jews, that isn't the problem... but their efforts are ultimately supporting evil at the top, ie. Satan Worshipping Vatican, murderous Zionist NWO Isreali government, etc

Every time someone tells one of those 'heart-warming stories' I wonder... are they aware of what is at the higher and more deeper levels? I think all Christians, Jews and (good) freemasons have to start accepting the larger truth... there are evil people using them as a cover...

"Someone who has earned the right to speak on this subject, from a different place on the pyramid where your friend was...

He has lived it at the most highest levels...
author of 7 books,
former:
Satanic & Voo Doo High Priest,
2nd Degree Member Of The Church Of Satan,
Occultist,
Channeller,
Knight Templar,
Member of the Illuminati,
Teacher of Astrology, Tarot and Astal Projection,
and was reccommended and eventually became
a 90th degree freemason

then again, I wonder how he can not know about the origin of Judao Christian history, his motives and reasons must therefore be complex, ie. maybe he has decided to speak to the 'common' people in a 'language' they can understand (pragamatism) to make up for all his evil doing... he must be incredibly smart to have learned so much

Star Tsar
27th December 2012, 14:20
The above video is rather informative!

westhill
29th December 2012, 02:16
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/mRe5Zil3uPHFxW8YEbX_DG8QlRtsEKuxSXZBlsnW0-IjQm8TbCmglPugUvl3DIhkhwxZIMrZ2WgOsIj1Ndd1QiorjjsR EtQJbVQI4IqfIEMliIA7V1c
Hi Everyone...
Michael just did a three hour long skype discussion (12-12-12) using our questions we post on the facebook site. The cost was only $10.
The event was so well received he's doing another one on Feb. 13, 2013. The link below has the info and links you'll need to sign up.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zahmh4sR9Lcit0wTYP2Gat5qwuunZSVXmwdd8T80XNU/edit

westhill
30th December 2012, 13:47
Simply the sanest person out there speaking/working.

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westhill
4th January 2013, 01:51
Michael Tsarion talking with Jason Thompson 3rd January 2011.

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modwiz
4th January 2013, 09:52
Michael Tsarion is always interesting. Finding time to listen is a challenge.

westhill
8th February 2013, 17:51
Second Conspiratorium date has been set (Feb 24 or 25 depending on where you are).
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http://www.facebook.com/pages/Mtsar-Conspiratorium/278036352299234?ref=stream

kenaz
26th July 2013, 13:24
MTSAR Conspiratorium: Ep: 2.2 - Our Traumatic Legacy
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Michael's Official Facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/Tsarion Michael's interactive webcast events are open to you by posting your questions, comments and ideas to the MTSAR Conspiratorium page on Facebook. MTSAR Conspiratorium hosts regular LIVE webcast events between 3-4 hours in duration where Michael answers questions and interacts with Conspiratorium Facebook members.

jerry
4th June 2014, 01:11
7ZtJ_ld-meEMichael covers a lot of topics. But the topic in this 6 hour 4 part series gives superior insight to the self, and consciousness, and how the powers that be manipulate it for control.
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jerry
4th June 2014, 03:21
For myself this is probably the most totally , philosophical , esoterically complete series I've ever come across. For those not familiar with Michael's work I suggest watching part four 1st and if you feel its something that interests you, then like I have, download and watch it over and over and free yourself and your mind

Ciaran
4th June 2014, 07:56
Michael is one of my follow country men and his work is very good, you should also watch the origins and oracles series and the Irish origins of civilization, really interesting stuff... :)

jerry
5th June 2014, 01:21
I have seen Oracles and much of his works. Even though I don't agree with some things or follow his views on others the POSTHUMAN WORLD has been key in helping myself understand, overcome, and face issues of life.

Ciaran
5th June 2014, 07:33
I have seen Oracles and much of his works. Even though I don't agree with some things or follow his views on others the POSTHUMAN WORLD has been key in helping myself understand, overcome, and face issues of life.

Yeah Jerry i agree with you, I'm not fully convinced with everything that he says, but i respect the research and time he has obviously put into his work, i don't think humanity will ever find out the truth about our origins unless a trove of undiscovered evidence is found, or the Vatican vault is raided... :)

jerry
8th June 2014, 18:55
If you take the time to watch the series it will certainly shed needed light on the how and why of big brothers wanted control of humanity

jerry
8th June 2014, 19:25
I want to highlight some of the main points Michael makes in this 1st series of Posthuman World. The must watch portion IMHO is from the 43 minute mark to around the 51 minute mark. If nothing else is to be viewed this section is a must see. At the 4 minute mark, Age of manipulation is discussed, then around the 7 minute mark Aldous Huxley excerpts, from his Brave New World Revisited is rather riveting. A most disturbing comment from World Federation Mental Health co founder Dr. G Brock Chisholm is seen at the 9:26 mark. Beginning at the 17 minute mark the trinity of the self gets explained in detail. Detailed enlightening discussion begins at the 32 minute mark on anxiety.
This video is so enlightening to myself, so due to the length of this series I'm to spend the next couple weeks to highlight and post the time line marks I found most pertinent to the comprehension of the video and an understanding of the coming of the NWO. For those without the time, may take the time to discover in excerpts what I and many others have awakened to with utmost gratitude to Michael in making this video available for free. 7ZtJ_ld-meE
In the series Michael provides us with handrails on the tip of the iceberg. His lecture provides excerpts and highlights from some of the most profound scholars and psychologists of history that show the controls of the PTB and how they are working with big brother on the process to bring into existence their NWO.

At 51 min. begins the anatomy of human destructiveness; 53:30 Ann Rand comment on the Collectivists tyranny; at 55 min. excerpts on the global village; at the one hour the moods of escape , loss of selfhood, then at 1:11:30 Collectivism and the crowd mentality; at 1:16 The Death Instinct, the immersion into the collective or Thanatos, followed by the war on consciousness ,historic amnesia, and finally duality with the master slave concept.

The video in its 4 parts covers so much disseminated material it could never be grasp in the 6 hrs. But what it does is give reference to topics of interest to spark ones own curiosity into further investigation for understanding of the self and how the powers that be manipulate it for total control

Part 2: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72122-The-Conscious-Collective-Michael-Tsarion&p=842952#post842952

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?591-Michael-Tsarion&p=844366&viewfull=1#post844366
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jerry
11th June 2014, 00:14
Part 2 of this 4 part series begins on the topic of the conscious collective upGspE6yLsA

At the 14 minute mark Michael contests the experts using the comments and inserts of some the worlds leading psychologists on the topic of oneness and the persona of the self. Recognition of it and its development in relation to the social setting. How the superego molds the ego and how the repression of the individual is the hallmark to socialism.

24:30 Some explanation of how society is the leading cause of pathology. As it becomes more repressed and “closed” how the super ego becomes more ( tormenting ) forcing the individual to become more alienated and anxious as the super ego drags the ego toward the world.
Discussion of the inverse relationship of an increase in conformity and collectivism there is a corresponding repression of the self as the perfect slave is created.

40:00 discusses the Participation Mystique with some insight to the lure of this mystery and how it used by the PTB to create and perpetrate the evil of our leaders and erase our morals with the crowd mentality and why we go for it . Michael helps us to grasp and understand the psychic control they wield over us, how it is used against us with our complete welcoming of it ,our acceptance with out any resistance.

The concept of divide and conquer with the persecution of the vets Christians and members of the tea party groups. Manufacturing the perfect slave as its pointed out that tyranny is better organized .

The best part of the video here is the 44:00 minute mark to the 55:00 minute mark at the 56:00 mark self sadism becomes the topic before spinning off into schizophrenia, psychic totalitarisim, myth of guilt and the original sin.

1:20 how the major critics of our society have been suppressed and how governments, not wars have been responsible for the death and destruction of its own people more than the wars they perpetuate.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?591-Michael-Tsarion&p=844366&viewfull=1#post844366

161803398
11th June 2014, 06:14
well try to maintain individuality almost anywhere and you'll be in trouble with the group. even on this forum. we should get rid of the "thanks" button.

jerry
11th June 2014, 11:44
That's so very true just ask or talk to any one in the work force in a professional setting, about a so called conspiracy theory (conspiracy truth). Its what makes the video to me so damn informative, educational, whatever, I buy the logic and see it in action in every day life , the true aspects of the psychological mind control you see all around us. We are being brain washed and dumbed down with our complete willingness and total unawareness.

jerry
15th June 2014, 17:58
Central to Michael’s thesis is Antipathy to Nature, he covers it well in this part of the series. We begin with the fallacies of scientism, the cause and effect and the Casualty Problem, along with how it has literally drove many scientists mad. How it has given rise to Quantum Theories. sXk2Yr4MwJ8
10:00 a detailed discussion begins, on ancestral trauma (previously mentioned) how it effects our consciousness and mans neurosis. How the fall away from nature has given rise to the division of our societies. The difference between shame and quilt, the inauthentic life, scientism and technology. The main symptom of pathology is mans antipathy to nature.
16:00 Negentropia, a new term for me is described as the fusion of man and machine.
23:00 how we are agents of our own demise . Societies transformation of mans submission by depravation of the self, the Automaton a phenomenon of “Anomie” the main cause of suicide, which has increased exponentially with the growth of industrialization.
31:30 Hyper reality we are being transformed into machines, entrained, and we are more and more treated as such.
38:00 Some extremely disturbing remarks from a couple authorities. Dr. Jose Delgado on Corportocracy /audultism , states man does not have the right to develop his own mind, he says we need a program of psycho surgery for political control. Then another psychopathic point of view. Thomas Hobbes states that humans are physical objects, the natural state is one of war not peace.
45:00 Imagination, the universe that speaks to and through you.
52:00 George Grodeck comment on the ID its creation of the ego and self, how our consciousness preserves our historical intelligence with a bond between the psyche and cosmos.
57:00 Major physiologists have always denied the concept of the self the I. They recently have been forced through their own contradictions to admit to the existence of this concept. Michael reveals their fallacy in their studies of hypnosis, where they have coined the phrase “The Hidden Observer”the effects that ancestral trauma has on the psyche.
1:02 The Mask of the unconscious, the meeting of Angels and Demons.
1:15 Origin of science is from the totality of experience and awe of nature and the universe . Nature is the instructor. A spontaneous response to natures vastness and beauty is the self responding to its own majesty.
1:21 Arian principles of Biophilia, the true love of life and all that lives, including the earth , solar system and galaxy with an enexcapable conclusion that the universe is intelligent.
1:25 Oceanic experiences, Psycic violence, healing animals, conclude part 3 of this remarkable series
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72064-Architecs-of-Control-Michael-Tsarion-Part-one
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72122-The-Conscious-Collective-Michael-Tsarion part2

kenaz
16th June 2014, 00:19
Hi Jerry...
Are you familiar with Michael's facebook pages (4)? There you can discuss and post with Michael himself and others.

MTSAR Conspiratorium
https://www.facebook.com/Tsarion

FEMALE ILLUMINATI
https://www.facebook.com/groups/femaleilluminati/

HISTORY'S EVIL MEN
https://www.facebook.com/groups/794756170550695/794886977204281/?notif_t=group_activity

Irish Origins of Civilization
https://www.facebook.com/groups/IrishOriginsofCivilization/

See ya there...

jerry
25th August 2014, 01:35
Just a bump some very insightful info IMHO

WhiteFeather
24th September 2014, 11:24
7ZtJ_ld-meEMichael covers a lot of topics. But the topic in this 6 hour 4 part series gives superior insight to the self, and consciousness, and how the powers that be manipulate it for control.
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Just came across these series of videos today myself, could this theory of posthumanism tie itself in with the Nano-Engineering they are doing in our skies via Chemtrails?. Maybe just a little piece of the puzzle perhaps IMO. As anything is possible.
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Maia Gabrial
28th September 2014, 16:35
What can be said about Michael Tsarion except that he is one heck of a speaker!
His research takes him everywhere....

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jerry
29th November 2014, 05:01
unfortunately I'm not a member
Hi Jerry...
Are you familiar with Michael's facebook pages (4)? There you can discuss and post with Michael himself and others.

MTSAR Conspiratorium
https://www.facebook.com/Tsarion

FEMALE ILLUMINATI
https://www.facebook.com/groups/femaleilluminati/

HISTORY'S EVIL MEN
https://www.facebook.com/groups/794756170550695/794886977204281/?notif_t=group_activity

Irish Origins of Civilization
https://www.facebook.com/groups/IrishOriginsofCivilization/

See ya there...