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EYES WIDE OPEN
16th May 2013, 18:22
http://davisanddavis.org/rv/

This is great.

I had 10 goes before I came up with this:

Earth Angel
16th May 2013, 18:59
this is fun!! ok these aren't great but here are a couple of my first attempts.....I just did a very quick line or two and then looked..forgive me I don't know how to take a screen shot so I took a pic with my phone

Tesla_WTC_Solution
16th May 2013, 19:03
this stuff is HARD.

it's like the harder you think about it the worse ya do!

incidentally, tests of creativity work the same way,
people do tons better when they are not aware of the evaluation

Tesla_WTC_Solution
16th May 2013, 21:04
I decided to do this for about 15 min to half an hour,
about 50 percent were complete misses as far as i could tell, but the interesting ones,
i will try to link here:

http://imageshack.us/a/img13/1794/rv15.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img22/153/rv14.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img827/8243/rv13.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img839/4404/rv12.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img841/6141/rv11.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img13/3754/rv10.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img812/812/rv9t.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img571/8953/rv8.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img542/8350/rv7.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img838/7928/rv6j.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img109/3299/rv5.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img706/4909/rv4.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img62/1484/rv3.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img542/3558/rv2.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img856/1829/rv1.png


ALBUM
http://imageshack.us/g/1/10151831/


EX:

http://imageshack.us/scaled/landing/827/rv13.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img571/8953/rv8.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img838/7928/rv6j.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img542/3558/rv2.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img812/812/rv9t.png

i am not very good at this, LMAO

EYES WIDE OPEN
16th May 2013, 21:44
This is so addictive!

RMorgan
16th May 2013, 22:11
Haha! Pretty fun indeed!

However, after doing it for a while, I tend to believe that most of us will end up drawing archetypal figures that can fit almost every random imagine one way or another.

The drawing/picture association is very subjective and vulnerable to personal bias.

Raf.

Sirius White
16th May 2013, 22:55
These are cool practices and all but not really quite remote viewing, although it is an aspect of it.

For example.....there are different kinds of RV.....one is a manner of "extension." I can for example, connect with an energy signature. Let's say a person , voice, etc. Then by knowing the signature (emotionally) I can instantly "connect" with the signature and find them where-ever they are....RV uses more of your mental faculties, the manner I'm describing uses more of your heart/gut, THEN the visuals come. Both have their uses....

I am only stating this because there are different kinds of remote viewing and some of the ones online....where you have to guess the picture....well just because you get good at it doesn't mean you are good at RV, and just because you can't do it doesn't mean you aren't good at RV. That's all I have to say.

This is more like "remote view the future after you clicked "next target."

Which is why it tells you to tell yourself you are RVing next target.

BUT- this does get you really good at making bridge between conscious and unconscious.......for example I just tried it and mine was a sailboat (next target), I drew what looked like a small sailboat but upside down.....so this definitely "works" but it is more of the traditional old school method of RV. Great practice

It IS true though in regards to RVing works best when you know nothing about target. Which is why going to weird places like moon etc is my favorite :)

Ellisa
17th May 2013, 00:13
Great fun and a huge time waster! As well as some scarily similar sketches. But I MUST stop NOW!~

Tesla_WTC_Solution
17th May 2013, 02:38
it really threw me off when it recycled a few images!

ghostrider
17th May 2013, 04:20
I 'm three images ahead usually, the baseball, the flower, the wheel, the bridge... freaky ...

Carmody
17th May 2013, 04:49
A tune to RV by:

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161803398
17th May 2013, 07:18
remote viewing is fun. I'd love to do it seriously for a year or two....or maybe forever.

Bongo
17th May 2013, 07:47
ED Dames has DVD's out, although they are ridiculously priced.

http://www.amazon.com/Learn-Remote-Viewing-4-DVD-Course/dp/B0007YWY8A

I'm sure you would be able to find a torrent if you look hard enough. ;)

enfoldedblue
17th May 2013, 13:19
I had a book on psychic development and used to parctice this sometimes with friends. We never had a lot of success..but there were some pretty close ones. Anyway I just went to check this site. On the 3rd one I drew a pot with a handle going to the left...when I saw the pictures it was dancing ladies. So I went on to the next one and drew two colums and then revealed the picture and it was a pot with a handle going off to the left! cool...I'm going to try some more.

Update: Must have been beginners luck. The next one I did really well...drew a cross and revealed a church with a cross on top. Then the MANY that followed seemed just completely random with no connection what so ever.

conk
17th May 2013, 14:28
I'm getting spooked! I had two in a row that were very close, then got the flower exactly as show, THEN got the little scooter almost perfectly. Then got three more that were the right shapes in the right context. Very interesting and lots of fun. I'm playing with it at home this evening. Thanks!

Sidney
17th May 2013, 15:03
That is so weird and fun and kind of addictive. lol Heres one.. Many were random way misses. I didn't save those. Actually for some reason I couldnt save the images I had to take pictures of them. Having a hard time with upload manager for some reason. My attachments folder might be getting full. Not quite sure how that works
guess its not working. hm il have to work on it and try again later. Got a couple interesting results though. If you look at the guys jacket it does look like a cube. The cube is the first thing I saw when I closed my eyes. Then the "head shoulders" filled in. Weird
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Sidney
17th May 2013, 15:23
Have to write some txt so my msg is long enough.
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soleil
17th May 2013, 15:42
very cool. i only did 3, but i was close with this perhaps.
the longer i think about it, the more wrong i am. 21454

Carmody
18th May 2013, 05:36
Part of the mystery is to connect to nothing, to be nothing, to be stilled, so you can connect to all. RV is a moment in the past, it is not a moment in the now. the now you connect by and in, is not the one where thought, linear thought paths exist. Thus, recognition of the RV happens not in the moment, but the attempt to manifest a conceptual shape to what is connected to. Moments of flashback, in the moment of shaping into recall.

One cannot pressure it into happening.... but to relax into a nothing.

It is difficult to define, to share... as it's very nature is not of linear conceptual mind.

Tesla_WTC_Solution
18th May 2013, 17:21
You guys should keep posting your pics!
I know no one is going to believe the next one,
but here it is anyhow:
try not to lol too much at my autism or whatever.

http://imageshack.us/a/img833/9463/2rv1.png

although this next image is unclear, it's one of my personal best so far.
I drew the curtains first, but the cross in the middle is supposed to be a window.
Although my window is modern, and the one in the RV picture is medieval,
I thought it was cool that for once I actually drew the simple object in question!!!

http://imageshack.us/a/img17/3677/2rv2.png

this next one is kind of vague, but what I drew was a street carnival with triangular penants hanging from the cords above the street. the RV image seems to show a pinata or other sort of paper mache decoration, that is hung in the air, and it has triangular shapes protruding from the body of the ornament.

http://imageshack.us/a/img546/9708/2rv3.png

i;ve hit a wall now and none since the above have connected at all.

Sirius White
21st May 2013, 12:11
Hmmm why is this one different than the one I previously accessed?

When I clicked on link originally it had a "clear picture" option as well as the ability to hover mouse over grey area to see target. Now it literally only allows you to RV "next target." I liked the other one because you could do precognitive, and also present moment (by hovering over grey). But now I can't.

Flash
21st May 2013, 12:28
I did RV once in my life. I had a boyfriend who was away in New Zealand for a while. Missing him, I truly wanted to see him, high emotional involvement. I saw him climbing a mountain (trekking) and then in a small hotel room with a curly hair, very in shape, girl. I could see her clearly.

When he came back, I told him about this, he was ashamed and in awe at the same time. It was exactly what had happened. I do not know if he got scared of me, but I did get scared of his lies.

this is a true story

Never tried it again.

Padmé
21st May 2013, 12:43
A quick question... sometimes I hear voices (haha I know how that sounds :D ) but its more like snippets of recordings, sometimes I can hear the words clearly, sometimes its just muffled noise... Is this somehow connected to RV or does anyone know what this could be?

Also, was wondering if anyone had any good source books they could recommend to help develop these abilities? Thank you and I'm sorry, please feel free to PM me if you have any info on this rather than derail this thread.

Thanks :)

provolon
21st May 2013, 22:05
I think it's pretty good!!

i saw like arrows, i wrote below brown yellow sharpen

Radi
22nd May 2013, 10:01
nice web :)))
here are some of my pics :D
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Roisin
22nd May 2013, 11:32
I haven't posted here in some time but I've been trying out that RV image generator too and here are some of my results.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2771DLSre4I&feature=youtu.be

(Note: I prefer to use Photoshop or some other image editor that I have on my hard drive for these RV sessions. I prefer to draw things out using a thicker marker than the 'pencil' they have on that page.)

Above is a screen capture video of an RV session I recorded last week using that image generator that I then loaded onto You Tube.

First I clicked on the "Click on Arrow for new target" and then brought back up the image editor to draw the gestalt sketch in. (this was before they changed that page yesterday when they switched from Flash to Javascript)

Then I drew it out and then ran my mouse over the grey box to view the target.

Note: When I was almost done with the sketch I thought it might be flower of some sort so I'm pretty sure that towards the end of that sketch I was adding
more lines to make it look more like that.

Lol, target turned out to be something entirely different but my gestalt drawing of this target came close enough to call it "close enough".

I'm still working on taking the time to focus on what the texture, color etc on the target after I do the gestalt sketch of it. Did have an AOL on this one, as I mentioned before and I think I stopped short wrt to thinking about the targets' details due to that AOL 'thought' interference. Need to work on this.
Here's a screenshot of my results: http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/A99_x/RV_5_18_13_1_zpse0d1d8ce.jpg (http://s932.photobucket.com/user/A99_x/media/RV_5_18_13_1_zpse0d1d8ce.jpg.html)

Roisin
22nd May 2013, 11:36
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB2Gy47zDbM

Here’s another screen capture video of a RV session I did using that generator where I then loaded onto You Tube.

What’s seen in the video: (using only mouse to draw out my target's in these sessions)
:03 -- First I clicked on “Click on Arrow for the Next Target”, brought up Fireworks to draw in it then started the session.

Then for about 41 seconds, I focused on what kind of textures are in the target so in the video, nothing is going on at that time.

:44 -- I then start drawing out the target where I first draw out a slope-y line followed by slanted vertical lines under it because I was sensing something spiky. Then, after a moment’s hesitation, I sensed that whatever it is, it’s got eye’s.

Then I bring my cursor above the rendering and decide if I should add anything else to the drawing. I decide to keep it as it is where I then run my cursor over the grey box to bring up the target.

The Results were so so. It appears that I ended up drawing out part of the wreath on the woman’s head where her eye’s, of course, are beneath the wreath.

The slope-y line that I first drew out corresponds to the top leafy silhouette of that wreath.

Those slanted vertical lines beneath it (was sensing something spiky) corresponds to the stems and pistils of the flowers in the wreath that are sticking out here and there throughout that construction. There are also yellowish lines too that run the length of the blossoms of those flowers in the wreath.

The target/photo shows a woman’s face … this matches up to the eye’s I added to that rendering. The angle of those eyes that I drew out are different than what’s in the photo though.

Here's a screen capture pic of my results for this one as seen in the video: http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/A99_x/rv0wx_zps4e020680.jpg (http://s932.photobucket.com/user/A99_x/media/rv0wx_zps4e020680.jpg.html)

Roisin
22nd May 2013, 11:43
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aedIJFOEY7I

In the video above, I correctly sensed waves washing over a beach "B". No sailboat though the shape of the sail on that boat correlates somewhat with that rock formation in the background in terms of its shape. Did this one earlier this morning (today).
PS -- I actually drew out a rough right triangle in the middle of that sketch that matched that largest jutting rock formation in the background of that beach scene but then decided to erase it.

Here's a screenshot of my results as seen in that video: http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/A99_x/rvbeach_zps52afe646.jpg (http://s932.photobucket.com/user/A99_x/media/rvbeach_zps52afe646.jpg.html)

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQxbsElb26Y

Here's another RV run I did this morning. (see video above)
Interestingly enough, the circle not only represents the pie but it ended up looking like the shape of a lemon too. I also drew out what looked the crust around the pie. Those 2 separate curved lines located top left corner and the lower right corner of the sketch could be interpreted as lemon slices. Ha! Too bad I didn't put one of those 'slices' on top of the pie though. Oh well. Target: lemon meringue pie

Also, for the 2 RV sessions I did this morning, I reloaded the page (clicked on "Reload Page") just before I started each RV run, then I drew out the sketch and then I clicked on "Next Target" where the photo of the target popped up on the screen for me to view.
Here's a screenshot of the results in that video: http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/A99_x/rvpie_zps752dc885.jpg (http://s932.photobucket.com/user/A99_x/media/rvpie_zps752dc885.jpg.html)

Roisin
22nd May 2013, 11:56
Here are a few other pics from when I first tried out that RV generator last week:

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/A99_x/Untitled-4_zpsadca43d1.gif (http://s932.photobucket.com/user/A99_x/media/Untitled-4_zpsadca43d1.gif.html)

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/A99_x/rvys_zps4775eccc.jpg (http://s932.photobucket.com/user/A99_x/media/rvys_zps4775eccc.jpg.html)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_pM8NkUCh4&feature=youtu.be

The video above is a screen capture recording from an RV session I did a few days ago.

note: clicked on that “Click on arrow to view next target” button after I drew out the sketch/sketches for this session.

What’s seen in the video:

First I make a wavy line on the ‘canvas’.

Then I put an “E” for ELECTRIC, which was a sensory perception of the target that I had, in the left top corner of the canvass

Then I drew out a triangle.

Then I’m sensing that the target includes a CREATURE of some sort.

So I begin to sketch out a creature where an AOL of a dog pops into my mind. So that’s what it ended up looking like (or rather an ideogram of it). Then I put a “d” over it to indicate dog.

But after I sketched that out, I thought I should make the dog/animal have a long snout because that’s what I was sensing it looked like but I didn’t bother to make that adjustment and now I wish I did because if I had done that I may have wondered if the creature was in fact a horse and not a dog.

Note to self: at least add additional thoughts in writing to canvass side-line on anything about the sketch.

Then I sensed that the dog was on a leash. So I drew out a stick man holding the dog’s leash.

Then after I’m done making sketches for this session, I clicked on “Click Arrow for Next Target” to view the target for this session.

Results: The target is a Carousel Horse
I was correct about the target being ELECTRIC because it’s a Carousel Horse on a Merry-Go-Round which is run by electricity.

Even though I drew out a dog, I was correct that the target was a creature; an animal and as it turns out it’s an artificial creature, in this case, a Carousel Horse, that’s put into motion via electricity.

I was correct about the dog/creature/animal having a leash because the Carousal horse, the target, has a leash on it too which is part of its harness which is seen in the target’s photo.

Also, it turns out that the negative space of the Carousel Horses’ harness forms a triangle in that photo which corresponds to the triangle that I drew out on the canvass during that session.

In addition to this, it turns out that the Carousel horses’ harness has a wavy border to it and this corresponds to that wavy line I drew at the beginning of the session.

Anyway, at this point in time I’m starting to ask more questions having to do with what kinds of sensory perceptions I’m having about the target. For this most recent RV exercise, I started to consciously put more effort into that.

Note: When the “Click Arrow for Next Target” button is clicked, the image editor application that I have on top of part of that RV page when I’m working in it for these sessions pops off the screen. When that happens, I click on that applications’ icon that’s in the task bar that’s at the bottom of my computer monitor to bring that application back up on the screen again.
 

Roisin
23rd May 2013, 09:14
These are cool practices and all but not really quite remote viewing, although it is an aspect of it.




The question is, does Remote Viewing involve any kind of precognition in the process of being able to access information about the target? Well, this was a question that Puthoff and Targ, who are two early pioneers on Remote Viewing at SRI, specifically addressed where they then surmised that Remote Viewing does indeed involve reaching ahead into the future to the point when the 'viewer' receives feedback on the target; IOW's, when the target is revealed to them.

They also stated that in those same RV sessions, depending on what the nature of the target is, the viewer may also gather information on it by visiting it too, at some point during their RV session. So, depending on the nature of the target, two things are going on simultaneously during that same session. The viewer not only acquires information precognitively on what the target is but they may also visit the target during that session to get some information on it in that manner too.*

So to say that "(precognition) is not quite remote viewing" is in actuality not something anyone who is a practitioner of remote viewing would even bother saying. Sorry.

Instead they would say that precognition is one of the applications of remote viewing. And the reason why is because precognition is something that the viewer engages in doing on an unconscious level during the actual process involved in the acquisition of information on the target during each session.

Of course, it goes without saying those who are proficient on some level at precognition are undoubtedly going to have the edge in successfully landing on what the target is during any remote viewing session than those who do not have any precognitive abilities.

Fortunately, there are ways to develop and improve in the area of precognition and one way to do that is to practice doing exercise's like what's on that website with the image generator on it that some of us have been using here in this thread.

Also, you are correct in saying that there are now a number of different types of Remote Viewing but that's another whole different topic that's separate from any discussion on the connection between precognition and remote viewing on a basic and general level.

* -- I'm a member of another forum where the administrator of that forum, who is a long time RV practitioner, recently talked about what Puthoff and Targ said about precognition and its role in remote viewing. It is his comments on that that I am echoing in my above statements. However, having read numerous books on the topic of Remote Viewing and the research conducted by Puthoff and Targ on it, there's plenty of information out there that backs up what that forum administrator was saying about that.

eric charles
24th May 2013, 19:06
Pretty cool .

The only I was able to RV , was a nice slice of cheese and a few peperettes , so a few seconds later thats what i had for my afternoon snack LOL

GoodETxSG
25th May 2013, 13:42
RV can be fun and is extremely useful in expansion of consciousness. These are harmless targets and great ones for normal beginner training/experimenting and I am not "Poo Poo'ing" any of the above posts at all (Just to be clear). I AM Not saying anything negative about any certain websites.

But one should be aware, there are R.V./Psychic "Honey Pots" out there that catalog you, rate your skill levels and "types" and file and forget. Then that database is accessed by those that exploit abilities or preempt perceived threats.

Be careful HOW and WHERE you project your self these days. Every "Location of Interest" has intrusion detector/tracer viewers on the job 24/7.
FYI, not just IMHO this time and all I will say on the matter.
Have fun, but be careful...

Roisin
25th May 2013, 15:03
A simple way to get around that is to not use their sketchpad on that page and instead use your own drawing canvas i.e.image editor like Photoshop, Paint etc.... This way you are not having to "Reset" that canvas every time you start a new RV run for the next target so nothing is saved in any database should that be happening. I've been using my own image editor to sketch things out in but not for that reason and only because I prefer to use a wider marker than that thin pencil they have on that site.

I myself would be more concerned with RV websites with forums that have RV practice sessions because I'm not ruling out that some of those sites may have ulterior motives to keep some members of their site/org as the top performers in their RV practice sessions where anyone who comes in who is better than those ones who threatens to topple the existing apple cart may end up being sabotaged against in some way to keep that status quo intact.

Anyway, that image generator that's on that page is good practice for Remote Viewers at ANY LEVEL and not just beginners.

Bill Ryan
25th May 2013, 15:09
RV can be fun and is extremely useful in expansion of consciousness. These are harmless targets and great ones for normal beginner training/experimenting and I am not "Poo Poo'ing" any of the above posts at all (Just to be clear). I AM Not saying anything negative about any certain websites.

But one should be aware, there are R.V./Psychic "Honey Pots" out there that catalog you, rate your skill levels and "types" and file and forget. Then that database is accessed by those that exploit abilities or preempt perceived threats.

Be careful HOW and WHERE you project your self these days. Every "Location of Interest" has intrusion detector/tracer viewers on the job 24/7.
FYI, not just IMHO this time and all I will say on the matter.
Have fun, but be careful...

Yes -- the warning is well taken.

In this fascinating interview, posted by EYES WIDE OPEN on this thread (do watch this)...

Super Soldiers & remote viewing programme is real - military witness and remote viewer (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59145-Super-Soldiers-remote-viewing-programme-is-real-military-witness-and-remote-viewer)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYO-iABnQd4
...'Alara', the ex-military remote viewer (who appears to be exceptionally able) describes very vividly how bilocating remote viewers are tracked and observed by their counterparts elsewhere. It really does seem to be a game of Spy-vs-Spy in the astral.

Roisin
25th May 2013, 15:29
Oh, I see what both of you are saying now. HA! Missed that first time round. Very interesting. Will watch Alara again in that video. Yes, this is something we definitely should be concerned about above all other concerns.

GoodETxSG
25th May 2013, 15:31
I haven't seen this video but will do so now. It will be interesting to compare "experiences/info"... Than you sir.

EDIT/UPDATE: Here is the Thread Link Bill refers to. Looks like I even made a comment on the Thread after someone mentioned that the "program" was inactive. FYI/for your reference:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59145-Super-Soldiers-remote-viewing-programme-is-real-military-witness-and-remote-viewer&p=678769#post678769

DeDukshyn
25th May 2013, 17:17
RV can be fun and is extremely useful in expansion of consciousness. These are harmless targets and great ones for normal beginner training/experimenting and I am not "Poo Poo'ing" any of the above posts at all (Just to be clear). I AM Not saying anything negative about any certain websites.

But one should be aware, there are R.V./Psychic "Honey Pots" out there that catalog you, rate your skill levels and "types" and file and forget. Then that database is accessed by those that exploit abilities or preempt perceived threats.

Be careful HOW and WHERE you project your self these days. Every "Location of Interest" has intrusion detector/tracer viewers on the job 24/7.
FYI, not just IMHO this time and all I will say on the matter.
Have fun, but be careful...


First thing I did was visit the parent site. It is set up as an artist site "Davis and Davis" - I found it a tad interesting that the RV page seems not linked to the main site at all. I could not find any link to get to that page. It may well be just something old. pages one websites are rarely ever deleted even if the go out of use.

My first thought was that this page is a measurement tool -- to test the current abilities of the masses across locations (it couldn't really be used to single out individuals). I noticed it keeps track of the locations of the participants.

Looks fun though, I think I will try this later ;)

DeDukshyn
25th May 2013, 19:56
Ok here's mine ... pretty good, but I think I can do a lot better :P :P

Roisin
25th May 2013, 21:07
Scott Davis is a member of an RV forum that a moderator at a UFO forum that the OP of this thread and I belong to also. That moderator has not stated what the name of that RV forum is though but she said that Davis notified everyone at that RV forum that he was going to change that image generator on that RV page to javascript instead of keeping it as a Flash object. Most likely the reason why he was going to do that has something to do with complaints from mobile cellphone users not being able to use flash on those devices. That change was made on the evening of May 21st, last Tues.

I haven't been at that site since last Weds morning but just now I'm seeing that another change has been made on that page too where now it's stating the Country and region of the viewer and the time when each session starts and ends. So now if you take a screenshot of that page to show your results in a forum somewhere or to save it in your files, that information will be on that page. The question is, "Is it also sent to a database on their server?" --- I have no idea.

My impression is that Scott Davis created that RV page for his fellow RV'ers to practice on. He created that application just for everybody to have fun with it. If I were to find out that it was something more than that, I would be very surprised. That's just my own personal opinion on this. I don't know Scott Davis but I love the concept of that image generator because it is indeed a very helpful tool wrt to getting some practice in precognitive RV without having to line up another person to pick the targets out for you instead. From what I know, that RV page has been up online since 2009.

Tangri
25th May 2013, 21:44
RV can be fun and is extremely useful in expansion of consciousness. These are harmless targets and great ones for normal beginner training/experimenting and I am not "Poo Poo'ing" any of the above posts at all (Just to be clear). I AM Not saying anything negative about any certain websites.

But one should be aware, there are R.V./Psychic "Honey Pots" out there that catalog you, rate your skill levels and "types" and file and forget. Then that database is accessed by those that exploit abilities or preempt perceived threats.

Be careful HOW and WHERE you project your self these days. Every "Location of Interest" has intrusion detector/tracer viewers on the job 24/7.
FYI, not just IMHO this time and all I will say on the matter.
Have fun, but be careful...


First thing I did was visit the parent site. It is set up as an artist site "Davis and Davis" - I found it a tad interesting that the RV page seems not linked to the main site at all. I could not find any link to get to that page. It may well be just something old. pages one websites are rarely ever deleted even if the go out of use.

My first thought was that this page is a measurement tool -- to test the current abilities of the masses across locations (it couldn't really be used to single out individuals). I noticed it keeps track of the locations of the participants.

Looks fun though, I think I will try this later ;)

I am not an expert on PC software development but I sensed some tricky picture programming which could be some kind similar to spell check finding alternative close words. face recognition software is more sophisticated in same logic. Paul your expertise might be needed here;)

Tangri
25th May 2013, 21:51
For screen( PC users) shot go to accessories chose snipping tool and take a shot and save it for your record

Roisin
25th May 2013, 22:23
RV can be fun and is extremely useful in expansion of consciousness. These are harmless targets and great ones for normal beginner training/experimenting and I am not "Poo Poo'ing" any of the above posts at all (Just to be clear). I AM Not saying anything negative about any certain websites.

But one should be aware, there are R.V./Psychic "Honey Pots" out there that catalog you, rate your skill levels and "types" and file and forget. Then that database is accessed by those that exploit abilities or preempt perceived threats.

Be careful HOW and WHERE you project your self these days. Every "Location of Interest" has intrusion detector/tracer viewers on the job 24/7.
FYI, not just IMHO this time and all I will say on the matter.
Have fun, but be careful...


First thing I did was visit the parent site. It is set up as an artist site "Davis and Davis" - I found it a tad interesting that the RV page seems not linked to the main site at all. I could not find any link to get to that page. It may well be just something old. pages one websites are rarely ever deleted even if the go out of use.

My first thought was that this page is a measurement tool -- to test the current abilities of the masses across locations (it couldn't really be used to single out individuals). I noticed it keeps track of the locations of the participants.

Looks fun though, I think I will try this later ;)

I am not an expert on PC software development but I sensed some tricky picture programming which could be some kind similar to spell check finding alternative close words. face recognition software is more sophisticated in same logic. Paul your expertise might be needed here;)

Wow! I sure hope not!

DeDukshyn
25th May 2013, 22:47
RV can be fun and is extremely useful in expansion of consciousness. These are harmless targets and great ones for normal beginner training/experimenting and I am not "Poo Poo'ing" any of the above posts at all (Just to be clear). I AM Not saying anything negative about any certain websites.

But one should be aware, there are R.V./Psychic "Honey Pots" out there that catalog you, rate your skill levels and "types" and file and forget. Then that database is accessed by those that exploit abilities or preempt perceived threats.

Be careful HOW and WHERE you project your self these days. Every "Location of Interest" has intrusion detector/tracer viewers on the job 24/7.
FYI, not just IMHO this time and all I will say on the matter.
Have fun, but be careful...


First thing I did was visit the parent site. It is set up as an artist site "Davis and Davis" - I found it a tad interesting that the RV page seems not linked to the main site at all. I could not find any link to get to that page. It may well be just something old. pages one websites are rarely ever deleted even if the go out of use.

My first thought was that this page is a measurement tool -- to test the current abilities of the masses across locations (it couldn't really be used to single out individuals). I noticed it keeps track of the locations of the participants.

Looks fun though, I think I will try this later ;)

I am not an expert on PC software development but I sensed some tricky picture programming which could be some kind similar to spell check finding alternative close words. face recognition software is more sophisticated in same logic. Paul your expertise might be needed here;)

What, you didn't believe my attempt (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59188-Fantastic-Remote-Viewing-website-that-everyone-can-practice-their-R.V.-on.&p=678868&viewfull=1#post678868)? ;) lol.

That is another option, since no-one sees the image until after you draw it. However, Roisins tactic of using another program (I can see that you also used a tablet ;)) would defeat it then (granted she played honestly ;))

It is an artists site and there are a few things on there that might make me think what you are saying, may be the case here ;) But suspect if it were true, we'd have some closer hits.

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Scott Davis is a member of an RV forum that a moderator at a UFO forum that the OP of this thread and I belong to also. That moderator has not stated what the name of that RV forum is though but she said that Davis notified everyone at that RV forum that he was going to change that image generator on that RV page to javascript instead of keeping it as a Flash object. Most likely the reason why he was going to do that has something to do with complaints from mobile cellphone users not being able to use flash on those devices. That change was made on the evening of May 21st, last Tues.

I haven't been at that site since last Weds morning but just now I'm seeing that another change has been made on that page too where now it's stating the Country and region of the viewer and the time when each session starts and ends. So now if you take a screenshot of that page to show your results in a forum somewhere or to save it in your files, that information will be on that page. The question is, "Is it also sent to a database on their server?" --- I have no idea.

My impression is that Scott Davis created that RV page for his fellow RV'ers to practice on. He created that application just for everybody to have fun with it. If I were to find out that it was something more than that, I would be very surprised. That's just my own personal opinion on this. I don't know Scott Davis but I love the concept of that image generator because it is indeed a very helpful tool wrt to getting some practice in precognitive RV without having to line up another person to pick the targets out for you instead. From what I know, that RV page has been up online since 2009.

Thanks for this info.

Roisin
25th May 2013, 23:00
I'm just using either a Fireworks or Macromedia Flash 8's canvas to sketch out those drawings with my mouse. I'm not using a tablet. I don't want to be tempted to go into much detail on these gestalt sketches for these targets. They are not meant to be detailed drawings. I'm only getting near hits now and quite frankly, I think we would be able to get closer hits to what the target actually is if someone where to pick out each target individually instead and put one into an envelope for the me to sketch it out for each session. The reason why is because we each have a consciousness and the viewer would be connecting with the consciousness of the human 'tasker' to help land on the target. But in these RV runs on that site, a computer is randomly picking out a target instead. Computers and machines do not possess a consciousness so, to me, that increases the level of difficulty for hitting on what the target is for each run.

Dedukshyne -- lol, your first try was a hit! Maybe next time you'll even be able to render it in 3D! :rolleyes:

DeDukshyn
25th May 2013, 23:06
I'm just using either a Fireworks or Macromedia Flash 8's canvas to sketch out those drawings with my mouse. I'm not using a tablet. I don't want to be tempted to go into much detail on these gestalt sketches for these targets. They are not meant to be detailed drawings. I'm only getting near hits now and quite frankly, I think we would be able to get closer hits to what the target actually is if someone where to pick out each target individually instead and put one into an envelope for the me to sketch it out for each session. The reason why is because we each have a consciousness and the viewer would be connecting with the consciousness of the human 'tasker' to help land on the target. But in these RV runs on that site, a is computer randomly picking out a target instead. Computers and machines do not possess a consciousness so, to me, that increases the level of difficulty for hitting on what the target is for each run.

I agree that it may be easier to read form biology than from machines, but that just indicates variations in methods between users. I'm sure nobody knows exactly what their "method" is, as they just try, and sometimes it works. I noticed a few of yours were interestingly close.

I'd like to see an app where you can play this with another person. They choose the image, try to send it to you, and you try to read it. Then we could work on connections with specific people as well. two birds for one stone ;)

NASA first learned of the rings around Jupiter from their RVs. Then they sent a satellite and saw it was true. Before that the concept was ridiculed because anyone with a telescope could see that it didn't. The fact is they were just too light to see by telescope.

Nice mousework then, BTW ;) -- When I do this in earnest I'll be using my tablet -- way easier to draw stuff.

InCiDeR
25th May 2013, 23:10
(...) Computers and machines do not possess a consciousness so(...)

I am not totally sure about that statement if I consider every possible level...

Roisin
25th May 2013, 23:17
I'm just using either a Fireworks or Macromedia Flash 8's canvas to sketch out those drawings with my mouse. I'm not using a tablet. I don't want to be tempted to go into much detail on these gestalt sketches for these targets. They are not meant to be detailed drawings. I'm only getting near hits now and quite frankly, I think we would be able to get closer hits to what the target actually is if someone where to pick out each target individually instead and put one into an envelope for the me to sketch it out for each session. The reason why is because we each have a consciousness and the viewer would be connecting with the consciousness of the human 'tasker' to help land on the target. But in these RV runs on that site, a is computer randomly picking out a target instead. Computers and machines do not possess a consciousness so, to me, that increases the level of difficulty for hitting on what the target is for each run.

I agree that it may be easier to read form biology than from machines, but that just indicates variations in methods between users. I'm sure nobody knows exactly what their "method" is, as they just try, and sometimes it works. I noticed a few of yours were interestingly close.

I'd like to see an app where you can play this with another person. They choose the image, try to send it to you, and you try to read it. Then we could work on connections with specific people as well. two birds for one stone ;)

NASA first learned of the rings around Jupiter from their RVs. Then they sent a satellite and saw it was true. Before that the concept was ridiculed because anyone with a telescope could see that it didn't. The fact is they were just too light to see by telescope.

Nice mousework then, BTW ;) -- When I do this in earnest I'll be using my tablet -- way easier to draw stuff.

Your application idea is a good one. Maybe someone will create one of those too! Check my last post was commenting on your AMAZING first effort! But next time could you maybe try to get it closer to what the target is? ho, ho,ho.

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(...) Computers and machines do not possess a consciousness so(...)

I am not totally sure about that statement if I consider every possible level...

I know what you mean and I too sometimes think that my computer possesses a consciousness as it definitely does seem to have a mind of its own sometimes!

DeDukshyn
25th May 2013, 23:20
I'm just using either a Fireworks or Macromedia Flash 8's canvas to sketch out those drawings with my mouse. I'm not using a tablet. I don't want to be tempted to go into much detail on these gestalt sketches for these targets. They are not meant to be detailed drawings. I'm only getting near hits now and quite frankly, I think we would be able to get closer hits to what the target actually is if someone where to pick out each target individually instead and put one into an envelope for the me to sketch it out for each session. The reason why is because we each have a consciousness and the viewer would be connecting with the consciousness of the human 'tasker' to help land on the target. But in these RV runs on that site, a is computer randomly picking out a target instead. Computers and machines do not possess a consciousness so, to me, that increases the level of difficulty for hitting on what the target is for each run.

I agree that it may be easier to read form biology than from machines, but that just indicates variations in methods between users. I'm sure nobody knows exactly what their "method" is, as they just try, and sometimes it works. I noticed a few of yours were interestingly close.

I'd like to see an app where you can play this with another person. They choose the image, try to send it to you, and you try to read it. Then we could work on connections with specific people as well. two birds for one stone ;)

NASA first learned of the rings around Jupiter from their RVs. Then they sent a satellite and saw it was true. Before that the concept was ridiculed because anyone with a telescope could see that it didn't. The fact is they were just too light to see by telescope.

Nice mousework then, BTW ;) -- When I do this in earnest I'll be using my tablet -- way easier to draw stuff.

Your application idea is a good one. Maybe someone will create one of those too! Check my last post was commenting on your AMAZING first effort! But next time could you maybe try to get it closer to what the target is? ho, ho,ho.

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(...) Computers and machines do not possess a consciousness so(...)

I am not totally sure about that statement if I consider every possible level...

I know what you mean and I too sometimes think that my computer possesses a consciousness as it definitely does seem to have a mind of its own sometimes!

I have a guy at work who can do web programming. If he has any interest I will propose the full idea to him and plan this out ... :)

Roisin
25th May 2013, 23:22
That would be great! There are A LOT of people out there who would be interested in practicing with something like that!

AriG
26th May 2013, 12:53
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Obviously I do not need to worry about surveillance. I know my shapes as well as any five year old ;) That was fun though...

Timreh
26th May 2013, 13:23
Imagine if we learnt this stuff at school?
Something we are all capable of..
Our focus in life has been elsewhere I guess?

Roisin
26th May 2013, 16:40
That is another option, since no-one sees the image until after you draw it. However, Roisins tactic of using another program (I can see that you also used a tablet ;)) would defeat it then (granted she played honestly ;))



Most of the sketches I posted here in this thread are from those sessions that I recorded using a screen capture video application where I then uploaded those video recordings to You Tube. If you viewed any of those short video's here, you will notice the following:
For those video's I recorded on May 16th or 18th, which was before Scott Davis changed that image generator from a Flash object to a javascript applet on the evening of May 21st I either:
1) clicked on "Click Arrow to View the Target" which would then load that image onto the page but would still remain hidden behind the grey box until I would mouse over that grey box AFTER I would do my sketch for that session. So after I completed my gestalt drawing, then I would run my mouse over that grey box to view the target image. All of that can be seen in those video's and I also explained everything in the same post that I inserted the video in and a screenshot of my results showing my sketch and the target image side by side on that page.

2) or in other sessions that I recorded and posted here as You Tube video's, I would instead first draw out my sketch for that RV session and then I would click on "Click Arrow to View the Target" and then run my mouse over that grey box for that target image to show up on the screen.

At that time I was experimenting if I did better if I first clicked on that arrow to load that target into that grey box where it would still remain hidden until I moused over it after I did the sketch to see what the target was --- or if I did better if I clicked on that arrow for that Flash object to load the image into that object where it would remain hidden behind that grey box that's on top of it where I would then mouse over that box to view the target image on that page after I would draw out the gestalt sketch for that session.

It turned out that I had the same hit rate on what the target was either way I did it.

However, when I start a session on that page, I ask myself "What is the Target?" before I start drawing. So to me it made sense to first click on that arrow for that Flash object to load that target into the box (though it would still remain hidden on the page until I moused over it), then draw out the target and then mouse over that box to see what the target is.
If I waited instead to click on that arrow for that image to load into that grey box when I then would mouse over that box to see the target image AFTER I drew out the target, then I would have to ask "What is the Next Target?" at the beginning of the session before I would start sketching something out.

I prefer to ask "What is the Target?" at the beginning of each RV run on that page than "What is the Next Target?". But either way I did it,i.e. press on that arrow to load the image into that grey box before I would do a sketch OR click on that arrow and load it onto that page after I did the sketch, I still had the same hit rate. And either way I loaded the image into that box where it still would remain hidden, I didn't mouse over that box to view the target until AFTER the drawing of the target was completed.

But on May 21st, last Tues. Scott Davis removed that Flash object with the image generator embedded in it and replaced that with a javascripted image generator instead.
And along with that new generator came new rules for how to operate the session where one is first supposed to click on "Reload the page" which would load a new target into that grey box but would still remain hidden until one clicks on another button that is right above the "Reload the Page" button that says "Next Target".

So from here on, when we first start a session, we first click on "Reload the Page", then we do the sketch for the session and then we click on "Next Target" to view the target image for that session.
I posted 2 You Tube video's of 2 separate RV runs on the morning of May 22nd using the new javascript image generator on that page. Both video's are shown here in this thread. But because now the target is loaded onto the page when you click on "Reload the Page", I ask at the beginning of each RV run "What is the Target?" -- because even though the target is still hidden on that page from the viewer, the target nevertheless has been loaded onto that page already.

Also,as I said before, I use my own image editor where I draw my sketches out with my mouse (prefer a wider marker than that pencil on that page) -- am not using a tablet. And while I am drawing out the sketch for each RV run, I bring that image editor and put if OVER part of that RV page so that it is next to that grey box with the target "in it". But after I'm done drawing the sketch where I then click on "Next Target", that image editor then automatically zaps off the screen and goes behind that RV webpage. I bring back up that image editor so that it's seen over that RV page again by simply clicking on the icon for that image editor that's in the bottom task bar of my computer monitor. When I do that, the sketch and the target can be seen on the screen, side by side, for me to compare each image to determine if I got a near hit or not on what the target is for that session.

The reason why I do a video recording of each of my RV runs is to show each step that I take during each session... i.e. the video's show when I either clicked on that "Click on Text Target" and then when I would mouse over that grey box to show the target image (in my pre-May 21st video's) or when I clicked on "Reload the page" and then the "Next Target" button to then view the target image (in my post-May 21's video's which is when Scott Davis changed over to javascript on that page).

But back to what you were saying:

"That is another option, since no-one sees the image until after you draw it. However, Roisins tactic of using another program (I can see that you also used a tablet ;)) would defeat it then (granted she played honestly ;))"

My answer to that is -- No, using another program, which in this case I'm using my own image editor instead of using that canvas and pencil that's embedded on that RV page, DOES NOT "defeat it" (IOW's there's no change doing these RV runs on that page for me in any manner whatsoever because I'm still doing everything step by step like everyone else does for each session who do their sketches directly onto that page only I instead am drawing them in my image editor where it is still up on that screen over that page and next to that grey box for everyone to see in those video recordings while I am doing that in each RV run that I recorded and showed here.) In each session that I recorded, you can see when I actually either mouse over that box to see what the target was or when I would click on the "Click Target" button (post May 21st) to see what the image was for the session and I only did that AFTER I completed the sketch I would do for each session. ;)

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Imagine if we learnt this stuff at school?
Something we are all capable of..
Our focus in life has been elsewhere I guess?

Yes! And think of all of the missing children/people we might have found but still can do that if we practice doing RV sessions!

I live in the next city district over from where Amanda Berry and those other hostages were found in that old house in Cleveland. I decided to practice using that RV image generator on that page because in the Cleveland area, there are still many young women, adults and children who are missing. And it's like this all over the United States and the world too!

We have a chance to find these people by practicing Remote Viewing!

I'm just saying that that recent event where those young women were rescued from that house after being kidnapped for 10 long years was an eye opener for me... They were held as prisoners in a house that I lived less than 10 minutes away from! This is why I want to learn how to do RVing.

If everyone learned how to Remote View, think of what we could do as a community to help find and rescue missing children, for example? A community of local RV's could meet at the town hall and have RV sessions to try to track down where those children are.

Yes, our world would be a lot different if people would only realize that we have it within ourselves to access information that could save lives using only our minds!

ThresholdRising
26th May 2013, 17:06
Great idea for a website. Thanks for the link.

Warlock
26th May 2013, 23:25
Remote Viewing is soooooo easy.

JUST PICK-UP THE REMOTE...........AND START VIEWING!!!!!! :pound:

Warlock :wizard:

Roisin
27th May 2013, 00:59
REMOTE remote viewing? I don't know about that one but it sounds pretty remote to me. :p

Roisin
27th May 2013, 14:05
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Obviously I do not need to worry about surveillance. I know my shapes as well as any five year old ;) That was fun though...

Out of all of the results posted in this thread, yours are the most intriguing because your subliminal mind has inspired you to draw out translations of a few of these targets that have resulted in gestalt drawings that could be interpreted as metaphorical motifs suggesting those interwoven narratives that are inherent within the target themselves.

So consequently, we are seeing an approach that's being implemented by that part of you that's able to capture information on the hidden target as having a rebellious tone to it because the very act of drawing out a metaphoric rendering instead of just drawing out what the target looks like, in effect, is a subtle swipe at conformity wrt the usual results generated by most in RV exercises like this.

In other words, it's indicating to us that your subconscious mind is able to express a substructure of critical thinking that's able to express not only what the target's shape is, but also show a rendering that's simultaneously a metaphorical motif of it too!

This indicates to me that you are way ahead of everybody else here in terms of the level that you are at now when it comes to remote viewing.

We can see this also in the brevity of your sketches. For example, let's talk about the sketch of the target that looks to be the twin towers. After drawing out what you drew out there, most beginners at RV would not be able resist an AOL popping into their mind that the target could be a rabbit where they would then continue drawing to make it look like that. But instead, you stopped sketching after you drew out those "ears" regardless if you had an AOL or not on what the target could be once you sketched that part out. Most beginners would not do that.

But whatever the case may be, my first impression of that sketch that you drew out for that target was that it looked like a 'peace' sign that someone makes with their hand. The irony in this is that it's a metaphorical motif for the twin towers/911 and here we are going back to what I was talking about before in my previous paragraphs in this post.

I hope that you will continue to show us your results should you continue to try out that image generator on that RV page. I'm very interested in seeing what's coming up next from the depths of that creative subliminal mind of yours! Seriously, this is fascinating! ;)

AriG
28th May 2013, 13:16
Roisin,

You humble me. :o

I'll give it a go again sometime soon.. Thanks so very much for the interpretation...we don't always see ourselves very clearly.

AriG
29th May 2013, 20:30
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Did a few more....

Roisin
29th May 2013, 21:00
Very close and v. good! Keep up the good work AriG and keep practicing! Thanks for sharing!

DeDukshyn
29th May 2013, 23:32
"
"That is another option, since no-one sees the image until after you draw it. However, Roisins tactic of using another program (I can see that you also used a tablet ) would defeat it then (granted she played honestly )"

My answer to that is -- No, using another program, which in this case I'm using my own image editor instead of using that canvas and pencil that's embedded on that RV page, DOES NOT "defeat it" (IOW's there's no change doing these RV runs on that page for me in any manner whatsoever because I'm still doing everything step by step like everyone else does for each session who do their sketches directly onto that page only I instead am drawing them in my image editor where it is still up on that screen over that page and next to that grey box for everyone to see in those video recordings while I am doing that in each RV run that I recorded and showed here.) In each session that I recorded, you can see when I actually either mouse over that box to see what the target was or when I would click on the "Click Target" button (post May 21st) to see what the image was for the session and I only did that AFTER I completed the sketch I would do for each session.
"

This isn't what I meant. I meant that if the program uses an algorithm to find the closest picture to what you draw before presenting you the image, then your method would defeat that logic, and thus be more fair - defeating the "trick" of the program that was referred to previously (a spell check like algorithm to find nearest matches). Think of it this way, then re-read my post. It will make a lot more sense. ;)

Chris Gilbert
30th May 2013, 20:38
I'm not surprised that many of the images end up having a subjective and personalized link to what people draw, it's been much the case with myself as well. Tuning in to the energy, thoughts and essence of a person, being and physical or non-local sphere works well enough, getting clear 3D details is harder. It's why large meta-studies work best for getting hard data that is above chance level.

sllim11
30th May 2013, 22:33
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Roisin
30th May 2013, 23:03
Not bad, not bad at all Slim! Hope you continue to share your results here!

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"
"That is another option, since no-one sees the image until after you draw it. However, Roisins tactic of using another program (I can see that you also used a tablet ) would defeat it then (granted she played honestly )"

My answer to that is -- No, using another program, which in this case I'm using my own image editor instead of using that canvas and pencil that's embedded on that RV page, DOES NOT "defeat it" (IOW's there's no change doing these RV runs on that page for me in any manner whatsoever because I'm still doing everything step by step like everyone else does for each session who do their sketches directly onto that page only I instead am drawing them in my image editor where it is still up on that screen over that page and next to that grey box for everyone to see in those video recordings while I am doing that in each RV run that I recorded and showed here.) In each session that I recorded, you can see when I actually either mouse over that box to see what the target was or when I would click on the "Click Target" button (post May 21st) to see what the image was for the session and I only did that AFTER I completed the sketch I would do for each session.
"

This isn't what I meant. I meant that if the program uses an algorithm to find the closest picture to what you draw before presenting you the image, then your method would defeat that logic, and thus be more fair - defeating the "trick" of the program that was referred to previously (a spell check like algorithm to find nearest matches). Think of it this way, then re-read my post. It will make a lot more sense. ;)

Hmmm, I'll read back over everything then tomorrow morning and will comment later. Thanks for the follow-up on this one!

Roisin
30th May 2013, 23:11
I'm not surprised that many of the images end up having a subjective and personalized link to what people draw, it's been much the case with myself as well. Tuning in to the energy, thoughts and essence of a person, being and physical or non-local sphere works well enough, getting clear 3D details is harder. It's why large meta-studies work best for getting hard data that is above chance level.

You've brought up some good points. I agree with what you are saying here. Will comment more on this later tomorrow!

chocolate
8th June 2013, 06:22
It was only a matter of time to discover this thread...
It is amusing.

I am not sure how serious the thread was intended to be, but just as a note, RV is done much differently, and not on any type of computer program.
It is a skill, and it works, but in order for it to present you with any tangible results, you need quite a lot of practice and precise knowledge.

Even Ed Dames does not disclose everything on his DVDs.

In my opinion RV should be taken seriously. It is an aspect of the whole world that is behind the veil(s). We can do it, almost everyone can, but some are more natural than others. Just avoid all kind of websites that let you practice there. RV is done in solitude, in a room without much interference, and on paper. That is all I want to say for now.

Roisin
8th June 2013, 10:28
I'm not surprised that many of the images end up having a subjective and personalized link to what people draw, it's been much the case with myself as well. Tuning in to the energy, thoughts and essence of a person, being and physical or non-local sphere works well enough, getting clear 3D details is harder. It's why large meta-studies work best for getting hard data that is above chance level.

Have you viewed the results of this exercise by members here in this thread? Some of the sketches that members here drew of the target are quite impressive where I would in all fairness say that their accuracy on what the target looked like was more than just chance.

In fact, I just went back to that
RV practice page and decided to view one target after the next just to see how many times I would see the same picture pop up.

Out of 91 clicks on that target button, only 3 of those photo's came up twice.

So in all fairness to the people who tried out that RV Practice page, to say that they were able to sketch out a likeness to what the target was, in your view (or at what you are implying here), had more to do with chance than anything else is, in my view, not really fair to those who ended up sketching a good likeness of what the target was.

I personally think it's more than just chance that members here got the target correct. And that there are other factors involved wrt to them drawing out a sketch that turned out to be remarkably similar to what the target photo was.

The psychic test on that RV Practice page is an exercise that's much more challenging than say, picking out one of the five cards in an ESP Zener card test, for example.
http://www.squidoo.com/howpsychicareyou

That one involves only picking from 5 possible targets, as opposed to getting the target correct out of hundreds of photo's like it is on that RV page. The Zenner test is a much easier task where chance does indeed play a bigger role when evaluating the results of each try because one is choosing only from five known possible targets, not hundreds of unknown ones!

Roisin
10th June 2013, 14:44
It was only a matter of time to discover this thread...
It is amusing.

I am not sure how serious the thread was intended to be, but just as a note, RV is done much differently, and not on any type of computer program.
It is a skill, and it works, but in order for it to present you with any tangible results, you need quite a lot of practice and precise knowledge.

Even Ed Dames does not disclose everything on his DVDs.

In my opinion RV should be taken seriously. It is an aspect of the whole world that is behind the veil(s). We can do it, almost everyone can, but some are more natural than others. Just avoid all kind of websites that let you practice there. RV is done in solitude, in a room without much interference, and on paper. That is all I want to say for now.

Well, not that I want you to give up all of your secrets on remote viewing, "chocolate", after all, we don't want you to lose your mystique do we? lol

But should you do us the favor and come back here and at least give us some crumbs to nibble on as to what those secrets are, I guess we will continue to amuse you in our efforts to improve in the area of sketching out targets using that simple ESP development tool/image generator that's on that rv practice page.

I can't speak for the others here but I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you are an experienced and talented Remote Viewer, as you seem to be implying here.

BTW, welcome to the forum and hope you will come back to this thread to give us more tips!:o