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Paul
5th June 2013, 09:11
Here's an interesting Red Ice hour with Scott Wolter, discussing such topics as the Kensington Runestone, the Knights Templar, and American Indians.

Scott is convinced that the Knights Templar left the Kensington Runestone behind, near the headwaters of the mighty Mississippi-Missouri rivers in Minnesota. The stone itself has the year 1362 on it; which has led many to presume the stone must be a hoax, since conventional history doesn't have Europeans in the middle of North America in 1362. Scott Wolter has examined the stone closely, and considers it real.

Wolter describes in this hour how the Knights Templar include direct descendent's of Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene, how the Knights Templar used or directed the Crusades so that they could recover the bones of Jesus and Mary from Jerusalem, and the two thousand year conflict between the Holy Roman Empire and Catholic Church, on the one hand, and the Knights Templar on the other hand. He speculates that the beliefs of the Knights Templar were more duality based, as opposed to the male dominated, hierarchical Church.

Wolter speculates that the Knights Templar were in North America for centuries, to escape religious persecution, that they found their beliefs often rather compatible with those of the American Indians, and that they inter-bred for generations (all before the arrival of Christopher Columbus in 1492.)

Here's the Red Ice blurb for this hour:




Scott Wolter is a professional geologist and has spent over ten years studying the Kensington Runestone. Geologist Scott Wolter has authored eight books and has been president of American Petrographic Services since 1990 and is responsible for the independent petrographic analysis testing laboratory where the Kensington Runestone was brought for investigation in 2000. He's been the principal petrographer in more than 5,000 investigations throughout the U.S. and around the world, including the evaluation of fire damaged concrete at the Pentagon following the attacks of September 11, 2001. He joins us to discuss the latest discoveries and evidence about the Kensington Runestone. We'll discuss errors in the accepted story of the Vikings and the runestone. Then, we'll discuss The Hooked X - The Secret History of North America. Scott explains how the origin of "the hooked x" symbol lies within the coded alphabet of secret societies that have been in existence since at least the early part of the twelfth century right through today. We'll discuss America's untold history also tying in the Knights Templar and the bloodline of Jesus. Later, Scott addresses those who say the Kensington Runestone is a fake.
Scott Wolter does have a couple of books out, one just this month, on the topic:

The Hooked X - The Secret History of North America (Aug 2009) (http://amzn.com/B005ZX35JK), also HookedX.com (http://www.hookedx.com/)
From Akhenaten to the Founding Fathers: A History of the Secret Knowledge of the Western World (June 2013) (http://amzn.com/0878396209)

Without further ado, here's the Red Ice hour:
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spiritguide
5th June 2013, 16:06
Makes sense to me. Thank you! The truth shall be known.

aranuk
5th June 2013, 18:34
Very interesting video. An interesting man as well.

Stan

Bryn ap Gwilym
5th June 2013, 20:11
Interesting to note that Alan Wilson & Baram Blackett have tried explaining this to the world complete with the translation of the Coelbren inscription. There seems to be an agenda to divert away from Wilsons finds & over to ~.

we-R-one
6th June 2013, 05:12
Wolter describes in this hour how the Knights Templar include direct descendent's of Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene, how the Knights Templar used or directed the Crusades so that they could recover the bones of Jesus and Mary from Jerusalem, and the two thousand year conflict between the Holy Roman Empire and Catholic Church, on the one hand, and the Knights Templar on the other hand. He speculates that the beliefs of the Knights Templar were more duality based, as opposed to the male dominated, hierarchical Church.

Wolter speculates that the Knights Templar were in North America for centuries, to escape religious persecution, that they found their beliefs often rather compatible with those of the American Indians, and that they inter-bred for generations (all before the arrival of Christopher Columbus in 1492.)

My family lineage in this lifetime are descendents of the Mary Magdalene and Jesus bloodline as well as the Knights Templar. In fact we go all the way back to Julius Caesar. Though I never met my grandmother, the only English word she could say was "blue blood" and she referenced our family members as such often, so I've been told. The connection goes all the way back to the 14th century(in which I won't reveal here on a public forum), but I can tell you the lineage in my case, was not from America. The documentation has been kept hidden with a family member and I don't know if I will ever see it, I just know of it's existence.

Looking at past artwork and hearing what appear to be miraculous tales of god-like abilities, it seems quite apparent that Jesus was most likely a star seed himself, so being from the same bloodline it does not surprise me that myself and other family members also have star seed attributes, though I would not necessarily say that's exclusive to those of his bloodline. So if that information isn't interesting enough...during my past life reading with Kevin Ryerson, it was revealed that I was the reincarnation of Mary Queen of Scots which I have mentioned before. Well if you research this bloodline, they are also known to be of the holy grail lineage. I do not think it's a coincidence that my son King James VI, I, authorized and financed the well known King James bible. Equally interesting that I would incarnate in this lifetime within the same bloodline of the holy grail, which also connects to a well known figure of Scotland who served Mary Queen of Scots during her reign. Though I have not personally view them, supposedly the published papers of Mary Queen of Scots speaks of this blue blood lineage in great depth.

Additionally in this reading, I was also told that I was of the soul group Archangel Michael and Raphael. Star seeds, so the story goes, are typically from advanced civilizations, the Elohim or the angelic realms, so much of this reading was fitting my background. It was never mentioned during this session to Kevin or the spirit being channeled, that I was of "the lineage". But then again, if you believe in accessing the Akashic records, the one acquiring the information for me, during this reading, Ahtun-Rae, would have this knowledge. Archangel Michael and Raphael are known to be the sons of god are they not? Part of my birth name in this lifetime can be defined as, "god's promise", "god as my oath". And yet another connection...or should I call it a clue?

So why am I telling you all this....because this is how you look within........the truth lies within all of us if we choose to see, and as more begin to look within like myself and begin to experience higher consciousness, we may find enough truth to start connecting dots amongst ourselves. As I began to make the correlations back in 2010 when I first discovered who I had been and who I was in this lifetime, it all began to make sense. And let me tell you, it brought new meaning to the well known phrase amongst the alternative audience- "as above so below". I'm not sure if the readers will follow what I'm saying, but maybe in time it will ring true and the evidence will be more pronounced as many begin to remember who they are, I suspect we will discover more seeds of legacies as individuals begin to awaken to their true identities which could help reveal the truths in ways we haven't been able to imagine.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shnAfWcU_e0

Billy
6th June 2013, 17:56
Here's an interesting Red Ice hour with Scott Wolter, discussing such topics as the Kensington Runestone, the Knights Templar, and American Indians.

Scott is convinced that the Knights Templar left the Kensington Runestone behind, near the headwaters of the mighty Mississippi-Missouri rivers in Minnesota. The stone itself has the year 1362 on it; which has led many to presume the stone must be a hoax, since conventional history doesn't have Europeans in the middle of North America in 1362. Scott Wolter has examined the stone closely, and considers it real.

Wolter describes in this hour how the Knights Templar include direct descendent's of Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene,

The missing piece of this jigsaw is here.

In 1398 Henry Sinclair Earl of Orkney, Baron of Roslin, sailed from Orkney and landed in Nova Scotia long before Columbus laid claims to the Americas.
He made contact with the Mic Mac Indians.

His historical journey reflected at Roslin Chapel in stone carvings of Maize, Sacred native Americans but not native to Scottish soil. He made the journey in the Magical ship ORPHEUS. Navigating through the Cygnus and Hard of Lyra. Protected by the Sword TITAN.

He carried with him Sacred Knowledge of the Altan Priest of Holy Isle of RUTA.
Knowledge that today is abused by the Masons.

, soon Henry used many of his ships and his Italian expert to sail to Nova Scotia in 1398 and Massachusetts in 1399.

Here they sought to find a refuge for the Grail--the holy bloodline connecting the House of David to the Merovingian Dynasty through the descendants of Jesus and Mary Magdalene--a goal that was achieved until the British exiled all the Acadians in 1755. end quote:

Billji here. The first part of the script is from memory from a video my friend and i made in 2011. I have it on my desktop but i do not know how to post it here.

The last sentence is from here. I did not know there was a book until i searched just a moment ago.

http://www.rakuten.com/prod/the-knights-templar-in-the-new-world-how-henry-sinclair-brought-the/33980661.html

Hope this places another missing piece of the jigsaw.

peace

EDIT UPDATE: This is a link to the video i mention above. http://www.gfc.uk.net/article_view.php?article_id=28

From the 12min - 15min mark in the video.

P.S if anyone has a Utube account and can post video's more than 10mins long please feel free to change this video into a Utube video. As i am finding it difficult to share. I do not know how to do this.

Thanks.

we-R-one
7th June 2013, 00:46
I listened to the audio last night which was interesting, but I found the end of the dialogue kind of awkward...did Scott almost touch on the need for reducing the population? Yikes! I could tell the interviewer of Red Ice got a little uncomfortable so then it got me thinking....who's behind the history channel anyways? I remember watching a documentary on forming of America and less than 5 min. into the program I could see the falsities pop up, so it was no surprise at the end to see that Bank of America was a sponsor. Anyone know who sponsors Scott's show? I pulled up History Channel on wikipedia to find that A & E Networks is the parent company
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%2BE_Networks

The direction of the organizations behind A&E is well known-(Hearst, NBC, Walt Disney), which most likely have an influence on the programs presented. So I wonder how they decide what info gets released and what doesn't? I'm curious why they would let Scott reveal so much truth. History channel has been known to show half truths in their programs. It makes it difficult for the viewer to decipher what's truth and what's not. I'm not saying Scott is lying...but his viewpoint mentioned at the end is that of a progressive..and anyone who's followed a few of my posts knows how I feel about that ideology, lol. I'm just looking for an angle here, that's all.

we-R-one
7th June 2013, 01:41
Below was a remark by Scott (when describing researches) from the above interview that I thought was worthy to note.

".....the knowledge base that he has and others have is set...and I think what happens is that they take a look at the runestone and they say, "ok" this is what I know, this is a runestone so it must fit into this box of knowledge that I have and right at the start they're off on the wrong foot because that's not the way you do a scientific investigation, and I hear him use this word all the time. A scientific investigation is no preconceived ideas, you can obviously have a knowledge base, but you look at this thing with blinders on and you just start to record data and information and let the artifact or inscription in this case tell you what it is and that's really what the fundamental problem is with investigations of the past. They didn't follow proper scientific method."

I have observed this thought process often and not with just supposed professionals, but just people in general even on this forum. This mentality can hold us back from getting to the truth and I'm glad he pointed this out.

Paul
7th June 2013, 03:02
I listened to the audio last night which was interesting, but I found the end of the dialogue kind of awkward...did Scott almost touch on the need for reducing the population? Yikes!
He says we have 7 billion people on this planet and growing, and that we can't keeping going like this.

That's not saying we need to reduce the population, but that there are limits to how much we can keep growing it.

Billy
7th June 2013, 09:35
I have not managed to listen to the OP video as yet. my 2G dongle signal is so week it will not play video's. I have just downloaded the video from my local post office and will listen tonight.

Does he mention Henry Sinclair. If not i find that strange if he has researched this carefully. The Sinclair's are said to be descended from the Jesus and Magdalene bloodline.

Billy
7th June 2013, 15:52
No sooner said than done :dance: Thanks to my brother Sunfeather. The video in Utube format.

No description as yet. 12 - 15 mins mark in the video for the information on Henry Sinclair. Earl of Orkney, Baron of Roslin.

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we-R-one
7th June 2013, 18:48
There are two things that stood out with Scott Wolter that I thought were worthy enough to further investigate who this guys is.... Like I mentioned..his population comment did raise my eyebrow regardless of what his intention was, why'd he even go there, whatever.....the second thing is the most revealing and that was the comment where he said the Pentagon was the first to call him to do an analysis on some concrete I believe pertaining to 9/11. I don't know diddley about diddley, but common sense would tell me that the Pentagon doesn't just call anyone, so out of all the people they could have picked in regards to such a sensitive topic in which they all ready knew who was behind the attack, why Mr. Wolter? Interestingly enough if I have my facts right, his company only opened up 10 years ago right? So that would have been shortly after 9/11. I guess I'm wondering who this guy even is or was back then? Further research needs to be done. Back to the present...

My questioning as to who was behind the program of America Unearthed(meaning who's funding it) is an important one and can be quite revealing. Well I think I found the information I was looking for, I found the sponsor all right and it appears to be none other than the government!!!! This guy is looking to be nothing but a paid shill! Ya, I found the interview interesting and exciting, but now days you can't trust anybody anymore. It's annoying to me that I have to investigate every flippin thing I do....who the heck has time to do this??? Unfortunately if you want to get to the truth in this type of climate, you have to take the time to look deeper....which is why I started the thread on The Importance of Vetting and that's exactly what I'm doing with this guy.

Here's the article that is confirming something I suspected:
http://www.jasoncolavito.com/1/post/2012/12/review-of-america-unearthed-s01e01.html

"The program discusses what it calls the “Track Rock site” in Georgia, a mound site which the program claims is evidence that the Maya came to Georgia. The program asserts that the U.S. federal government prohibits access to the site. At first the show implies through lighting and mood music that this is for conspiratorial reasons, and then Wolter just explicitly says so.

Despite what America Unearthed claims, the Track Rock Gap Archaeological site is open to the public (for free, no less!), and the government offers directions to help you get there and brochures to help you find your way around the site. The only thing prohibited is archaeological excavation without following the formal application process. Since Scott Wolter is no archaeologist and has no interest in conducting real research, this must be the actual reason the “government” blocked him from trampling through the site, if that is what they did at all."

Through researching Wolter in addition to this article I came across him somewhat bad mouthing the government...well that's all well and good, but what's puzzling about the behavior is that he's been funded by the so called "government" LMAO...awkward, awkward, awkward...so somethin doesn't smell right. I'm not even going to go over the other arguments that the author of the above article is discussing, I have no formal opinion at this point. Right now I'm just following the money as it's quite revealing imo. The second article also written by Jason is additional information and what got my attention:

http://www.jasoncolavito.com/1/post/2013/01/america-unearthed-takes-government-money-to-accuse-government-of-cover-ups.html

"I’ve obtained documents from Minnesota Film and Television (MNFilmTV), a nonprofit that distributes public money and private matching funds on behalf of the state of Minnesota, which reveal that Committee Films, the production company behind America Unearthed, has accepted more than $190,000 for diffusionist documentaries accusing scientists, historians, and the government of lying about the history of America, including $112,740 for America Unearthed itself. Since MNFilmTV is a public-private partnership, 50% of that money came directly from taxpayer dollars.

Yes, you heard right: Minnesota taxpayers are funding America Unearthed.

The funding comes from the state of Minnesota’s “Snowbate” production incentive program, which rebates up to 20% of production costs for expenses incurred while shooting in Minnesota. Snowbate’s funds are distributed on a first-come, first-serve basis, and applications are not evaluated for quality or content, only to ensure a production agreement is in place. Because this involves public money, Committee Films was required to submit detailed financial reports about their productions to receive funding. These financials are now public record and play an important role in showing the (very) big money involved in telling untruths about history on television.

Note: None of this is illegal, but it is deeply disturbing that taxpayer dollars are going to fund productions that spread untruths about American history.

Committee Films accepted $53,254.41 in 2010 as compensation for Who Really Discovered America?, a diffusionist program that ran on the History Channel. They also accepted $19,468.57 in 2009 for The Holy Grail in America, another History Channel program, this one claiming that the Knights Templar traveled to the United States in the Middle Ages."

So the big question is why and for what purpose are they attempting to change history? Somethings going on here.....I can just feel it....I don't have time to investigate further...but this isn't passing the b.s. test....maybe I'm wrong....

Sorry Paul, not picking on you...just digging further and following intuition. This post might be a little rough, don't have time to edit right now.

Billy
8th June 2013, 11:22
I listened to the interview last night and i enjoyed it. But as i mentioned in my above post, Why did he not mention Henry Sinclair? and the documented evidence that exists. Scott says he has researched this for many years. He does mention that the HOOKED X that is engraved on the Rune Stone was also found in Roslin Chapel.

If he knows that then he must know that Henry Sinclair sailed to the Americas long before Columbus and took the Templer's with him.

I may try and contact Scott and ask him.

we-R-one
9th June 2013, 00:44
I listened to the interview last night and i enjoyed it. But as i mentioned in my above post, Why did he not mention Henry Sinclair? and the documented evidence that exists. Scott says he has researched this for many years. He does mention that the HOOKED X that is engraved on the Rune Stone was also found in Roslin Chapel.

If he knows that then he must know that Henry Sinclair sailed to the Americas long before Columbus and took the Templer's with him.

I may try and contact Scott and ask him.

Hi Billy,
You might contact Jason Colavito, the author of the blog I posted and see what he says. I don't personally know anything about the guy or if his other information is accurate about Scott's research and background. The main reason I posted his article is because I could tell he did do some research on his own and posted what he could. Obviously if someone wanted to confirm, the right thing would be to get the documents on their own in the same manner that Jason did. You also might find interesting, the comments below Jason's articles. I haven't read through them, but from past experience, sometimes the comments can be more interesting than the articles themselves, lol!

If what you say is correct, it's even more cause to watch this guy in order to figure out what he's up to. I'm beginning to think he's an operative for some reason as he came out of no where prior to working for the Pentagon, which in itself is odd for obvious reasons. Further research would have to be done to confirm in all fairness to him.

gripreaper
9th June 2013, 01:02
I could see the falsities pop up, so it was no surprise at the end to see that Bank of America was a sponsor..

Bank of America? Good sponsors, just look at the murals in their Main office. Vetted!! ;)

http://static.infowars.com/2010/11/i/article-images/boa_fresco_right.jpg

http://static.infowars.com/2010/11/i/article-images/boa_fresco_center.jpg

http://static.infowars.com/2010/11/i/article-images/boa_fresco_left.jpg

we-R-one
9th June 2013, 03:11
lol, thanks Grip! Just to be clear to the readers and Paul, I wasn't implying that he should have vetted Scott before posting. I'm just saying in general you have to vett all of these people because there's so much b.s. flying around who can say what's true and what's not.

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oh ya...bofa has a special place in my heart, all right.....:rolleyes:

Jake
9th June 2013, 13:36
Very illuminating. Thank you, Paul. I mentioned in another post that my wife is a sinclair,, of Templar tradition. Her father, grandfather, and all of her uncles on the Sinclair side of the family are all 33 degree masons, and very hush hush about it. Salt of the earth people. Very good folks to know. These implications are exciting. There must be grail seed sown quite wide in the Americas. Especially regarding the American Indians. I love how Scott mentions that we have to get back to an 'American Indian' style of relationship with our planet. It is true. Excellent find.

Jake.

Billy
9th June 2013, 17:52
I listened to the interview last night and i enjoyed it. But as i mentioned in my above post, Why did he not mention Henry Sinclair? and the documented evidence that exists. Scott says he has researched this for many years. He does mention that the HOOKED X that is engraved on the Rune Stone was also found in Roslin Chapel.

If he knows that then he must know that Henry Sinclair sailed to the Americas long before Columbus and took the Templer's with him.

I may try and contact Scott and ask him.

Hi Billy,
You might contact Jason Colavito, the author of the blog I posted and see what he says. I don't personally know anything about the guy or if his other information is accurate about Scott's research and background. The main reason I posted his article is because I could tell he did do some research on his own and posted what he could. Obviously if someone wanted to confirm, the right thing would be to get the documents on their own in the same manner that Jason did. You also might find interesting, the comments below Jason's articles. I haven't read through them, but from past experience, sometimes the comments can be more interesting than the articles themselves, lol!

If what you say is correct, it's even more cause to watch this guy in order to figure out what he's up to. I'm beginning to think he's an operative for some reason as he came out of no where prior to working for the Pentagon, which in itself is odd for obvious reasons. Further research would have to be done to confirm in all fairness to him.

Thank you. I could not find a contact email for Scott but i sent an email to Red Ice Radio yesterday. Awaiting a reply.
I do believe that the information that Scott is giving out is correct. But for some reason not complete.

Scott also says that engraved on the Rune stone is the following. That in his company were 8 Goths and 22 Normans, 10men by their ships and with him fugitive Templers.

The Sinclair's or St. Claire before they Anglicized their name. are descended from Norman Royal bloodline.

Hi Jake.

Did you know that the 9th President of the USA was Arthur St Clair - President Of The United States in Congress Assembled February 2, 1787 to October 29, 1787

Born in Thurso, Caithness, 23 March 1734 - died in Greensburg, Pennsylvania, 31 August 1818. http://www.caithness.org/history/historicalpeople/index.htm

The son of the Niven Sinclair Earl of Caithness, Lord Thurso. is my life long buddy. we met when i was 15yrs old. He married my friend and they have two sons. Her title became the Honourable Lady Sinclair. His sons and my daughter have been close friends since birth. All in their mid 30's now. The Sinclair's of Caithness have more of a blood right to be the guardian's of Roslin Chapel than the Sinclair's who run Roslin Chapel at this time through marriage and not blood. But hey they are doing a good service.

My mate tells me i know more about his family than he does. :laugh:

Maybe one day your wife would like to come to the Sinclair Gathering. http://www.caithness.org/links/sinclairconnections/.

Peace

Billy
10th June 2013, 11:22
As you can tell, this is another small passion of mine, some links for research.

http://www.templartreasure.com/prince_henry.html

In Scotland, another Henry, dubbed Prince Henry Sinclair set sail for Nova Scotia. He "discovered" that land in June of 1398, almost a hundred years before Columbus.

He decided to build a settlement there, however, war in Scotland took his time and ultimately his life. The knowledge of their secret land was passed from father to son. When the English threatened their Roslin castle, the Sinclairs brought their treasure to Nova Scotia. The Oak Island pit was excavated in 1436. For the next hundred years it was improved upon until the head of the Clan Sinclair left Scotland forever, disappearing from history.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_I_Sinclair,_Earl_of_Orkney

Arms of Henry Sinclair, Earl of Orkney.

Henry I Sinclair, Earl of Orkney, Baron of Roslin (c. 1345 – c. 1400) was a Scottish and a Norwegian nobleman. Sinclair held the title Earl of Orkney under the King of Norway (see Earl of Orkney: Scottish Earls under the Norwegian Crown). He is sometimes identified by another spelling of his surname, St. Clair. He was the grandfather of William Sinclair, 1st Earl of Caithness, the builder of Rosslyn Chapel. He is best known today because of a modern legend that he took part in explorations of Greenland and North America almost 100 years before Christopher Columbus.

http://sinclair.quarterman.org/ca-ns.html
Arcadia, Orkadians, Acadia(ns) "Orkadian" is the name we use for someone from Orkney.

"Arcadia" is a little more difficult to pin down because it is almost philosophical in concept. Arcadia is not a real place; rather it is a place that represents to us that mythological land where there was no strife or conflict either on personal or national levels; people lived in harmony with their enviroment, pursued poetry, music,love; lived in freedom and peace with neighbours without war and you get the idea. It actually is relevant to Sinclairs because as Baigeant et al. pointed out in Holy Blood and the Holy Grail, The Prieure de Sion, that murky semi-secret group that is supposed to have an unbroken chain of grand- masters all the way back to the Merovingians and the descendants of Christ and Mary Magdalene,


http://www.robertsewell.ca/sinclair.html
"Prince" Henry Sinclair, Earl of Orkney

Robert Sewell This page was set up by Robert Sewell in April 2002 to show the descent of Henry Sinclair, Earl of Orkney, who is reputed to have sailed to North America 100 years before the voyages of Christopher Columbus.

http://www.robertsewell.ca/sinclair.html
For more on Henry Sinclair's legendary voyages, please see:
Prince Henry Sinclair at: http://www.tartans.com/articles/famscots/sinclairh.html

Nova Scotia: They landed in Nova Scotia in late May or early June and found the native Micmac Indians friendly. Henry Sinclair became known as "Glooscap", the white Micmac god. He built a castle and buried the Holy Grail (and perhaps the Arc of the Covenant as well) in a mysterious deep shaft on Oak Island. All except two ships returned to the Orkneys, and Henry Sinclair wintered in Nova Scotia during which time he and his men built a larger ship . . . or so the story goes.

For more about the Holy Grail and Nova Scotia, please see:

The Search for the Holy Grail in Nova Scotia at: http://www.tartans.com/articles/holygrail.html

Arms of the Clan GunnMassachusetts and the Westford Knight: Next spring, Henry Sinclair and his men sailed south and landed in Massachusetts. At that point, Sir James Gunn died and a memorial was inscribed on a rock on Prospect Hill in Westford, Massachusetts. This memorial is described by some as nothing more than a crudely pecked outline of an 18th century tomahawk while other describe it as a Knight Templar in armour carrying a sword and a shield bearing the arms of the Clan Gunn.

Enough for just now. There is much more info out there than i realized :tongue1:

Jake
10th June 2013, 15:03
Billyji,, Wow,, Thank you. As you can probably tell,, I am not as knowledgeable as I probably should be about my geneology. (or my wifes) :) I guess I have my work cut out for me. Mee wife has been about as 'removed' from her family as I have. At least in a historical sense. There has been an overabundance of tragedy in her family, and they like to keep to themselves. Although quite secretive,,, they are secretive in a joyful way. Her father told me that if I wanted to know more, than I should just ask.. I took that as a sign to respectfully 'back-off'. However, there is no harm in doing my own research into their geneology. This is exciting stuff. I have other geneology work to do as well. My father is full blood Cherokee, and I have my work cut out there too!!! I would be interested to know more about the Sinclairs and their dealings with the Natives of the time. Which tribes they dwelt with, cultural philosophy, etc... I must hold back my excitement until I know more! Thank you for the links,,, I am inspired by your passions!!!

Jake.

Billy
10th June 2013, 15:58
Billyji, I would be interested to know more about the Sinclairs and their dealings with the Natives of the time. Which tribes they dwelt with, cultural philosophy, etc... I must hold back my excitement until I know more! Thank you for the links,,, I am inspired by your passions!!!

Jake.



Hi Jake, So far we know Henry Sinclair made contact with the Mic Mac Indians in Nova Scotia.


As you can tell, this is another small passion of mine, some links for research.

http://www.robertsewell.ca/sinclair.html
For more on Henry Sinclair's legendary voyages, please see:
Prince Henry Sinclair at: http://www.tartans.com/articles/famscots/sinclairh.html

Nova Scotia: They landed in Nova Scotia in late May or early June and found the native Micmac Indians friendly. Henry Sinclair became known as "Glooscap", the white Micmac god. He built a castle and buried the Holy Grail (and perhaps the Arc of the Covenant as well) in a mysterious deep shaft on Oak Island. All except two ships returned to the Orkneys, and Henry Sinclair wintered in Nova Scotia during which time he and his men built a larger ship . . . or so the story goes.

Enough for just now. There is much more info out there than i realized :tongue1:

http://www.glastonberrygrove.net/reference/history/micmac/

Glooscap was the name given to Henry by the Mic Mac Indians. When you search Mic Mac Indians they have stories and legends of Glooscap.

http://www.glastonberrygrove.net/reference/history/micmac/templars.html

"Glooscap was the first,
First and greatest,
To come to our land -
Into Nova Scotia...
When the Master left Ukakumkuk,
Called by the English Newfoundland,
He went to Pictook or Pictou,
Which means the rising of bubbles,
Because at that place the water is
Ever strangely moving,
There he found an Indian Village
A town of a hundred wigwams."
- Frederick Pohl, Prince Henry Sinclair

In the body of Micmac legends, "Pohl was the first to identify Gooscap as Henry Sinclair. Pohl was able to make a list of 17 specific similarities between Glooscap and Sinclair, including the fact that they each had three daughters."
- Michael Bradley, Holy Grail Across the Atlantic

Glooscap "invited all to a parting banquet
By the great lake Minas shore
On the silver waters' edge.
And when the feast was over,
Entered his great canoe
And sailed away over the water,
The shining waves of Minas."
- Frederick Pohl, Prince Henry Sinclair


"And, in memory of this parting, the Micmacs traditionally chanted:

"Nemajeeck, Numeedich."
This, as Frederick Pohl noted, sounds like the words of an old Norse sea-chantey sung when weighing anchor.

"Nu mo jag, nu mo deg."
- Michael Bradley, Holy Grail Across the Atlantic

http://www.glastonberrygrove.net/reference/history/micmac/glscapdr.html

The Legend of Gooscap's Door

There is a doorway to Glooscap's domain
Where you throw dry punk and fish
For his fire and food.
But you must not enter
Though you may leave a gift on stone
Waiting to feel goodness.
This is the way the legend goes
So the Micmac elders say.

At Cape North on a mountain you whisper,
"My grandfather
I have just come to your door
I need your help."
Then you leave something you treasure
Taking three stones.
This is your luck.
This is the way the legend goes
So the Micmac elders say.

At Cape Dolphin near Big Bras d'Or
There is a hole through a cliff
It is Glooscap's door.
And on the outside a flat stone
It is his table.
The Indians on a hunt leave on table
Tobacco and eels.
This brings them luck, so the story goes
The legend live on.
Song of Eskasoni, Rita Joe

another interesting story is Glooscap and his wolves. This story gives the impression that Glooscap was a giant. or at least much bigger than the Indians he was with and loved. http://www.glastonberrygrove.net/reference/history/micmac/newhome.html

It sounds like your wives Father left a door open for you to ask Jake. Tell him what you now know of Henry Sinclair and the Templers and The Grail his journey to the Americas. The Mic Mac Indians.
That Henry carried with him Sacred Knowledge of the Altan Priest of Holy Isle of RUTA. Knowledge that today is abused by the Masons.

Then ask if he can expand on your knowledge.

I believe the true Knowledge of the Templars was abused by the later Masons. But i also know that some sections of the masons today still hold the true knowledge, No harm in asking.

Billyji

ParakeetMGP
29th July 2013, 02:47
Being New here, I'm looking for some things that I have been interested in and have seen from my Cable History Channel on this myself. My Computer is on (Phone-Line Dial-Up Modem) and doesn't get to Play Internet Videos (Except for 5 minutes ones if I want to wait 1 Hour for the Downloading of it. Why it makes 5 minutes take an Hour (I don't know?) ... ) I saw this Episode on my Cable History Channel in Addition for this 2013 Year for H2. Scott Wolter made a 2013 Season Series of 13 Episodes of "AMERICA UNEARTHED" Which I seen them all from January into May this Year 2013 and was very Interesting ... They are:

1. American Maya Secrets (In Georgia USA)
2. Medieval Desert Mystery (In around down in the Tucson, Arizona area)
3. Great Lakes Copper Heist
4. Giants in Minnesota
5. A Deadly Sacrifice
6. Stonehenge in America
7. Mystery of Roanoke
8. Chamber Hunting
9. Motive for Murder
10. The Desert Cross (Again around down in Tucson, Arizona area)
11. Tracking the Templar's
12. American's Oldest Secret
13. Hunt for the Holy Grail

Meantime I have found it at this time and moment difficult to follow by reading everything here at the moment and looking for much more of what Scott Wolter is having in Documentary Shows in addition to this ... (Not Sure if other Threads have this?)

CD7
10th August 2013, 02:57
Awesome video!! Thankyou Paul for posting and thankyou billyj for mentioning this in another thread which brought me here to see this as I did not see this thread its first go around.

The information he brings up floored me quite frankly...and I really enjoy hearing his point of view, especially about scientific disciplines! I commend him for standing up and relating his finds in the midst of ridicule from his colleagues. I would not continue my anthropology degree as I realized most are not in it for the Truth, only regurgitation of what they are told.

Rocky_Shorz
29th October 2013, 15:38
It would be great to merge these threads, but please fix or remove the date on the other...

I grew up within a few miles of an old Templar Farmhouse and well less than a day from the Runestone...

the outline of the sunken ships can still be seen at the bottom of a lake from where they tied up to await the explorers return...

3rd generation of the expedition made it back to Norway and spoke to royalty many years later and was the reason Columbus sailed...

the Indian tear duct traits are in many from England and Scandinavia passed down through those explorers...

some say the bloodline of the holy grail was hidden in the wilderness to keep it alive...

Billy
29th October 2013, 15:56
Rocky is asking to merge Paul's thread with this one. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9584-Swedes-brought-Templars-to-MN-to-hide-ancient-treasures-in-1342...&p=750641#post750641
I think it is a good idea, If Paul does not mind.

thunder24
29th October 2013, 21:34
I looked at this thread today, and bam someone skyped me this within the same hour... without me mentioneing it....


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peace

Robin
30th October 2013, 02:48
I am also glad that I found this thread. I didn't know other people were aware of Scott Wolter's work. For me, I really value his work.

Because of him, I found out that in my last past life I was Meriwether Lewis. It was a huge shock to learn this.

The Lewis and Clark expedition was actually a huge conspiracy. And because of what I found, I was murdered by the Illuminati :(


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On4GIt7DAzw

Tesla_WTC_Solution
30th October 2013, 03:00
Have you guys by chance read the novels "Straw Men" and "Blood of Angels"?

These books sort of deal with the idea of whites living in the continental US waaaaaayyyy before recorded settlers.

But they're kind of -- bad people :( lol. Copper miners who hunt other humans and bury themselves with the collections of the dead.

I've wondered for a while if the Grail ended up in the USA, however -- because of the eagle and wilderness reference in Revelation.
But it would be kind of hard to know.

For all we know the Scottish evictions sent them here @_@ but it could have happened sooner

thunder24
2nd November 2013, 18:18
Phoenician monuments found in New Hampshire...
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"Baal was the power worshipped by the Canaanites as God. He is the bull god and is represented by a bull. He is half man and half bull, the god of fertility (the Sun God). In Egypt he was known as the Son of the Nile or Ra. He possessed Akhnaton (i.e. he who is pleasing to Aton), the husband of Nefertiti (i.e. possessed by Ashtaroh). Nefertiti was the originator of the Rosicrucians and the Masons. Baal promotes false religion and religious prostitution (as well as shrine prostitutes). J. P. Timmons, Mysterious Secrets of the Dark Kingdom p. 114 (1991).


I looked at this thread today, and bam someone skyped me this within the same hour... without me mentioneing it....


fjrAavRdeuQ

peace

thunder24
2nd November 2013, 18:35
"in 1831, when joseph smith identified zama as the name of of the city of zion, Tulum had not yet been uncovered..."
-Tulum is where the "descending God" supposedly descended
-that is supposed to b christ
-Tulum is a Mayan City

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This Video implies that the plates Joseph Smith found were written in a language similar to hebrew and egyptian.....
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This says the maya contributed to the 'Creek' dna ...made it to Georgia, just south of Tennessee

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Native americans write in ancient hebrew (phoenician)
I know its beck but we all can contribute.
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http://olivercowdery.com/texts/boud1816.htm
This is a great book, read it a few years ago....
A STAR IN THE WEST; OR, A HUMBLE ATTEMPT TO DISCOVER THE LONG LOST TEN TRIBES OF ISRAEL, PREPARATORY TO THEIR RETURN TO THEIR BELOVED CITY, JERUSALEM. by Elias Boudinot.

basically explaining how the natives in the americas are the lost tribes of israel...

so you see its very possible for the grail to b hidden with eagles in the wilderness!

thunder24
4th November 2013, 03:44
So now there is the connection between the Minoan civilization from Crete and you guessed it... the Phoenicians....

This video explains that the Minoans had made it to the Great Lakes to mine copper for the 'bronze age'...

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This led me to ask myself about the alphabets and such since earlier it was said that the Phoenicians wrote in ancient Hebrew...


At first they used the same characters as all the other Phoenicians, but as time went on, and they chanted their language, they also changed the shape of their letters. At that period most of the Greeks in the neighborhood were Ionians; they were taught these letters by the Phoenicians and adopted them, with a few alterations, for their won use, continuing to refer to them as the Phoenician characters-as was only right, as the Phoenicians had introduced them.
http://phoenicia.org/alphabetcontrov.html

So then if this was happening at 5000 years ago, what was the world 'civilization' really like???

So what maps did the Templars have and how detailed?!

GreenGuy
27th November 2013, 23:16
Scott Wolter has an interesting show, but it IS a show. Therefore he's more concerned with ratings and profits than getting to the truth. That said, I think he MAY be onto something re the Templars and the Sang Real (holy grail).

I was in contact with him shortly after the show came on the air, regarding a large group of standing stones in Southern California that I spent nearly ten years studying. I came away bewildered...mainstream scientists maintain these are natural stones, nevermind that some have human profiles and that some could not by any stretch of the imagination be natural. Also the longer I studied, the more I realized a connection between UFOs and a possible dimensional portal. Maybe it was just all too weird for him, but he dropped it like a hot potato. I even sent him pics of a runish-appearing carving on a boulder. No hooked X though.

Wouldn't it be fascinating to learn that the Templars really were here, and that the bloodline continued in North America!

lastlegs
28th November 2013, 06:20
Interesting thread worth bumping since it requires a lot of time to read.

Rocky_Shorz
30th November 2013, 23:10
This says the maya contributed to the 'Creek' dna ...made it to Georgia, just south of Tennessee

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that was interesting, the Mayan Scholar mentioned the Baktun<?> starts 400 days after the end of Calendar Dec 21 last year...

It means the new beginning...

Saturday, January 25, 2014

my daughter's Birthday...

dang these coincidences just never stop do they...


and these artifacts were just disclosed to the public...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPnbYsjgnFE&feature=player_embedded

my seer is a medium and connected with a Pharoah's Queen, whose sister had 5 ET's babies...

she was highly educated in Egypt for the time...

they traveled around the world, could ET be the connection to all of these civilizations at that time?

are they dropping back in to see how we are doing?

thunder24
1st December 2013, 00:44
Saturday, January 25, 2014

my daughter's Birthday...

dang these coincidences just never stop do they...

Geez...they really don't.:cool:

Looking back over the past couple years... here are some threads that may very well tie into this one...like a bow...
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9584-Swedes-brought-Templars-to-MN-to-hide-ancient-treasures-in-1342...&highlight=cymry

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?19509-Arthurian-Dynasty-In-Search-of-the-Prince-of-Wales--Cymry-&highlight=cymry

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?23528-The-Woodward-Thread&highlight=cymry

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?26102-Norway-Templars-EDL

Rocky_Shorz
1st December 2013, 00:56
I was just thinking of this thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?19509-Arthurian-Dynasty-In-Search-of-the-Prince-of-Wales--Cymry-&p=208670&viewfull=1#post208670) today and didn't find it in a search...

thanks for listening... ;)

thunder24
1st December 2013, 01:14
http://i1.wp.com/www.badarchaeology.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/coelbren.jpg?resize=152%2C250
coelbren alphabet

http://www.behindthetype.com/images/phoenician%20alphabet.png
phoenician alphabet

im no expert on any of this, and i know a few members here are; a video on Ancient Khumry Coelbren Alphabet

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/5122514/the_ancient_khumry_coelbren_alphabet_is_no_fake/


Anno hi

Yes afal = apple, but sticking another bit on the end can & usually changes the whole meaning. The answer is hidden in the Mabinogi/Mabinogion. Easier said than done seeing todays language & abc was different to then.

Ynys Môn is the alleged last stand, but Afalon is linked to the south, but the Cymry are infamous for sending folk in the wrong direction & for very good reason.
You may want to check out the geography of a place called Bala in the North. ;)

The ancient language was Coelbren & not the Irish Ogham promoted by the english establishment who done their damned hardest to rubbish that there was a written language.
The Coelbren is found all round the world dating back thousands of years, but its all a mass hoax & people are confused & mistaken according to certain so called scholars.

Edit:
This may or my not shine a new light on things
http://cilmaen.wordpress.com/category/llantwit-major/

Afalon=Avalon


t is well known that two very remote successive immigrations of Celtic people into Britain can be traced-viz., those of the Round Barrow period, who are also known as the men of the Bronze Age ; and the later Brythons, from whom in the main the Welsh are descended. From the examination of the bones of the men of the Bronze Age, which are met with but sparingly-for cremation was their common mode of disposing of the dead-they are known to have been a broad-headed and large-limbed race. The later Celts are not characterised by his head form. The survival among living people here and there of representatives of the broad-headed type is an interesting ethnological circumstance. As might be expected, it is chiefly in the most mountainous part of England-viz., in the remote parts of Cumberland-that traces of this race may still be met with. The type is, according to Beddoe and Ripley, marked by being `above average in height, generally dark in complexion, the ehad broad and short, the face strongly developed at the cheek-bones, frowning or beetle browed, the development of the brow ridges being especially noticeable in contrast with the smooth, almost feminine softness of the Saxon forehead.`(34) In Cumberland there had been going on a fusion between the decendants of the Norse and those of these more ancient Cumbrians, some of the descendants of whom are now fair in complexion.(35) http://www.wilcuma.org.uk/pattern.asp?pageid=46

thunder24
1st December 2013, 02:55
are they dropping back in to see how we are doing?


are you talking about thoth?

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/enoch/esp_enoch_6.htm

....The priest-scientist ENOCH, is a prediluvian patriarch, one of the most famous and seminal characters of the previous time cycle. Father of Methuselah and great grandfather of Noah, Enoch is credited in the Bible as architect of the original Zion, the legendary "City of Yahweh", as well as inventor of the alphabet and calendar. Enoch is also history's first astronaut, who "is taken aloft by the Lord" and shown "the secrets of earth and heaven". He returns to earth with the "weights and measures" for all humankind.

Known to the Egyptians as THOTH, the "Lord of Magic and Time" and to the Greeks as HERMES, "messenger of the gods", he is even remembered in the Celtic tradition as the enigmatic wizard Merlin, who disappears up an apple tree to mythic Avalon, seeking the secret of immortality and vowing to return.....

....Astonishing experiments, conducted by Dr. Hurtak and colleagues at the Great Pyramid and other sites in the South Americas, demonstrate the pyramids to be voice-activated "geophysical computers." Intoning specific ancient sounds, the scientific team produced visible standing waves of light, above and within the pyramids and were even able to penetrate, hitherto, inaccessible chambers. Subsequent discoveries indicate the ancient priest-scientists employed some sort of harmonic sound technology within the temple structures......

The lost Enochian knowledge reveals the mother tongue as a "language of Light". Known to the ancients as HIBURU, it is the primal seed language, introduced at the beginning of this time cycle. Modern research confirms, the most ancient form Hebrew to be a natural language, the alphabetic forms emerging from the phosphene flare patterns of the brain. The same shapes, in fact, born of a spinning vortex. It is a true language of light, coursing through our very nervous system.

Encoding the natural waveform geometries of the physical world, Hiburu is a harmonic language, mimicking the waveform properties of light. The "keys" Enoch speaks of, turn out to be sound keys, keys to be vibratory matrix of reality itself, the mythic "Power of the World". The Enochian knowledge describes sonic equations, encoded within the ancient mantras and god names, capable of directly affect the nervous system and producing profound effect of healing and higher consciousness states....

This one says Thoth was in Atlantis and brought the knowledge to Egypt after ATL went down...
http://www.encyclopedia-of-religion.org/thoth-the-atlantean.html

GreenGuy
2nd December 2013, 05:24
My questioning as to who was behind the program of America Unearthed(meaning who's funding it) is an important one and can be quite revealing. Well I think I found the information I was looking for, I found the sponsor all right and it appears to be none other than the government!!!! This guy is looking to be nothing but a paid shill!

we-R-one, I appreciate the effort you've put into this. I have had some of the same nagging questions as you have - also with respect to the "Ancient Aliens" series. Mainstream media is not in the habit of revealing real truths, and there is always an agenda.

I have thought that Wolter's approach is less than scientific. He starts out with a preconceived notion that he sets out to prove. And like the various ghost-hunter series, the actual proof is never presented. You're always left hanging, hoping to find out more on the next installment.

Another thing that led me to question Wolter is the fact that I believe I have discovered traces of an enormous ancient ceremonial or sacred site in southern California. I have discovered astronomical alignments, ley lines, standing stones and other proofs that as Wolter says, the history we've been taught is wrong. Wolter had no interest at all in my evidence. He has an agenda that he doesn't deviate from.

If anyone is interested in what I've discovered in southern California, some of my photos are now in an album (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/album.php?albumid=803) here at PA. I no longer live in that part of the state. I'd love it if someone pursued and solved the mystery.

Sorry, I don't mean to hijack the thread. I do think it's all interrelated.

thunder24
13th December 2013, 00:00
Mysterious Stone Chambers & Giants Discovered in New England- Jim Vieira
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stone structures all over america...

this video can also be found here... http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3596-Up-At-The-Ranch-And-Beyond&p=722080&highlight=Vieira#post722080

thunder24
24th December 2013, 03:23
Cahokia near St. Louis aka/ mound city
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on documedium's channel

Foxie Loxie
26th January 2016, 23:22
This was a terrific video; thank you SO MUCH for posting it! As you can tell, I'm doing a lot of catching up! Some of the articles taken out of the mounds reminded me of articles that Klaus Dona showed to Bill. The weird writing looked like the writing Klaus called "Pre Sanskrit". It is such a shame that we have not been allowed to see things in an openminded way.