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jiminii
15th June 2013, 13:46
1. prison planet
There is no way they can kill a spirit being. We have gone back in time so far that the number would fill an 8 1/2 page on the second Wall of Fire and we still have not found the origin of a spirit ... so apparently we have always been here,

No it take an awful lot of force to knock out a spirit being and then make him lose his memory ... a spirit being could probably brush his teeth with a 100 billion watt lightning bolt ... so we are talking about a lot of force to trap a spirit..

why would they do it? why would they go to such an expense to trap spirit beings ..in human bodies on prison planets like this one we are on?

the nearest star from here is about 10 light years from here ,
that is light traveling at 186,000 miles a second for 10 years ...
now a spirit can be there almost the same time he thinks it.

how fast would a spirit being have to operate to create atoms .. build planets and stars ... how fast does an atom travel ??? we are talking about electrons moving from one atom to another .. electricity ... not how fast one rotates around a nucleus proton ... and then multiply it by the size of this universe ...

how fast would a spirit have to operate to keep this entire universe in motion continually creating itself ... ????

How much garbage would you have to put into a spirit being to slow him down to the size of a body (as from the size of the universe), on a planet on the edge of a galaxy believing he/she/it was just an animal???

that is how much garbage you have to remove to be free ...

the future is yours ... believe me ... IT REALLY IS YOURS AND YOUR DECISION ON WHERE IT WILL GO FROM HERE.

now you in this human body might think, "oh this is impossible ... look at what we are up against ... the entire cabal/elite and all these aliens and their tech and all of these news the economics ... the works ... impossible indeed"

in the last 4 years have you seen any of their predictions coming true?

who do you think is stopping this ..???. (whether you are aware of it or not)
who do you think is controlling this ...????

we are almost there .... really ... you only get bigger as you can confront all of it ... "that what you can confront you can handle" ...

what does that mean? .. "that what you can confront you can handle"

does it mean you have to go do something or just confront it???

you really don't know how powerful your thoughts are ....

this is my story from beginning to now ...

may the adventure begin

jim

jiminii
15th June 2013, 15:02
Ok so we start with what we are ... so we need some definitions for this

tone scale is an arbitrary number of the emotions of a spirit from minus 40 to plus 40

click on the pictures to make them larger

Swan
15th June 2013, 15:21
Hi Jim,

Could you possibly make the above image larger?

EDIT: Thanks

jiminii
15th June 2013, 15:34
THETA, 1. theta is thought, life force, elan vital, the spirit, the soul, or any other of the numerous definitions it has had for some thousands of years.
2 . the life force, life energy, divine energy, elan vital, or by any other name, the energy peculiar to life which acts upon material in the physical universe and animates it, mobilizes it and changes it. It is susceptible to alteration in character or vibration, at which time it becomes enturbulated theta or entheta.
3. theta is thought; an energy of its own universe analogous to energy in
the physical universe but only occasionally paralleling electromagnetic-gravitic laws. The three primary components of theta are affinity, reality, and communication.
4 . reason, serenity, stability, happiness, cheerful emotion, persistence, and the other factors which man ordinarily considers desirable.
5 . an energy existing separate and distinct from the physical universe.
6 . Greek for thought or life or the spirit.
7 . not a nothingness. It just happens to be an exterior thing to this universe—so you couldn't talk about it in this universe’s terms.

THETA BEING, 1. the “I,” it is who the person himself is.
2. the theta being is close to a perpetual motion picture machine in that it can create energy and impulses. It thinks without facsimiles, it can act without experience, it can know simply by being.

THETA BODY, a thetan very often carries with him a theta body which he
mocked up on the past track and which is a number of facsimiles of old bodies he has misowned and is carrying along with him as control mechanisms which he uses to control the body he is using.

THETAN, 1. the living unit we call, in Scientology, a thetan, that being taken from the Greek letter theta, the mathematical symbol used to indicate the source of life and life itself.
2 . the awareness of awareness unit which has all potentialities but no mass, no wave-length and no location.
3 .the being who is the individual and who handles and lives in the body.
4 . (spirit) is described in Scientology as having no mass, no wave-length, no energy and no time or location in space except by consideration or postulate. The spirit is not a thing. It is the creator of things.
5 . the personality and beingness which actually is the individual and is aware of being aware and is ordinarily and normally the “person” and who the individual thinks he is. The thetan is immortal and is possessed of capabilities well in excess of those hitherto predicted for man.
6. the name given to the life source. It is the individual, the being, the personality, the knowingness of the human being.
7 . energy space production unit.
8 . in the final analysis what is this thing called thetan? It is simply you
before you mocked yourself up and that is the handiest definition I know of.
9 . the person himself—not his body or his name, the physical universe, his mind, or anything else; that which is aware of being aware; the identity which is the individual. The thetan is most familiar to one and all as you.
10. a static that can consider, and can produce space and
energy and objects .

ENTHETA, 1 . means enturbulated theta (thought or life); especially refers to communications, which, based on lies and confusions, are slanderous, choppy or destructive in an attempt to overwhelm or suppress a person or group.
2 . theta which has been confused and chaotically mixed with the
material universe and which will lie in this confusion until death or some other process disenturbulates it. Theta, below 2 .0 on the tone scale, we call entheta.
3 . anger, sarcasm, despair, slyly destructive suggestions.

ENTURBULATE, cause to be turbulent or agitated and disturbed.

VIEWPOINT, 1. a point of awareness from which one can perceive.
2 . that thing which an individual puts out remotely, to look through. A system of remote lookingness— we’ll call it just remote viewpoint. That’s a specialized kind of viewpoint. And the place from which the individual is himself looking, we’ll call flatly a viewpoint.
3 . evaluation is the reactive mind’s conception of viewpoint. The reactive mind does not perceive, it evaluates. To the analytical mind it may sometimes appear that the reactive mind has a viewpoint. The reactive mind does not have a viewpoint, it has an evaluation of viewpoint. Thus the viewpoint of the analytical mind is an actual point from which one perceives. Perception is done by sight, sound, smell,
tactile, etc. The reactive mind’s ‘viewpoint’ is an opinion based on another opinion and upon a very small amount of observation, and that observation would be formed out of uncertainties. Thus the confusion of the word viewpoint itself. It can be a point from which one can be aware, which is its analytical definition, and it can be somebody’s ideas on a certain subject which is the reactive definition.

ANALYTICAL MIND, 1 . the conscious aware mind which thinks, observes data, remembers it, and resolves problems. It would be essentially the conscious mind as opposed to the unconscious mind. The analytical mind is the one which is alert and aware and the reactive mind simply reacts without analysis.
2. that mind which combines perceptions of the immediate environment, of the past (via pictures) and estimations of the future into conclusions which are based upon the realities of situations. The analytical mind combines the potential knowingness of the thetan with the conditions of his surroundings and brings him to independent conclusions. This mind could be said to consist of visual pictures either of the past or the physical universe, monitored by, and presided over, by the knowingness of a thetan. The keynote of the analytical mind is awareness, one knows what one is concluding and knows what he is doing.
3 . the awareness of awareness unit plus some evaluative circuit or circuits, or machinery to make the handling of the body possible.
4. that part of the being which perceives, when the individual is awake or in normal sleep (for sleep is not unconsciousness, and anything the individual has perceived while he was asleep is recorded in the standard memory banks and is relatively easy for the auditor to recover).

REACTIVE MIND, 1. a portion of a person's mind which works on a totally stimulus-response basis, which is not under his volitional control, and which exerts force and the power of command over his awareness, purposes, thoughts, body and actions. Stored in the reactive mind are engrams, and here we find the single source of aberrations and psychosomatic ills. (Scn 0-8, p. 11) 2 . comprises an unknowing, unwanted series of aberrated computations which bring about an effect upon the individual and those around him. It is an obsessive strata of unknown, unseen, uninspected data which are forcing solutions, unknown and unsuspected, on the individual—which tells you why it remained hidden from man for so many thousands of years. (Scn 0-8, p. 11) 3. is basically that area of occlusion which the pc is unable to contact and which contains within itself a total identification of all things with all things, and until released into the realm of knowingness continues to react upon the person compelling him into actions, dramatizations and computations which are not optimum to his or anyone else's survival.
4. the reactive mind is a stimulus response mechanism, ruggedly built, and operable in trying circumstances. The reactive mind never stops operating. Pictures of the environment, of a very low order, are taken by this mind even in some states of unconsciousness. The reactive mind acts below the level of consciousness. It is the literal stimulus-response mind. Given a certain stimulus it gives a certain response.
5. once called the “unconscious” mind. It is a tough, rugged mind which is alert during any moment of life, regardless of the presence of pain, and which records everything with idiotic faithfulness. It stores up the entheta and enmest of an accident with all the perceptics (sense messages) present during the “unconsciousness” resulting from the accident.
6 . once known as the “unconscious mind,” but this terminology is highly misleading, because the reactive mind is the mind which is always conscious.
7. also known as the R6 bank.

GENETIC ENTITY, 1. that beingness not dissimilar to the thetan which has carried forward and developed the body from its earliest moments along the evolutionary line on earth and which, through experience, necessity and natural selection, has employed the counter-efforts of the environment to fashion an organism of the type best fitted for survival, limited only by the abilities of the genetic entity. The goal of the genetic entity is survival on a much grosser plane of materiality.
2 . formerly referred to as the somatic mind. It has no real personality, it is not the “I” of the body. This is the “mind” of an animal, a dog or a cat or a cow.
3. that entity which is carrying along through time, that is making the body through the time stream, through the action of sex and so forth. Abbr. GE.

jiminii
15th June 2013, 16:09
Maitreya
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This article is about the Buddhist bodhisattva Maitreya. For other uses, see Maitreya (disambiguation).
Maitreya Buddha

Bodhisattva Maitreya from the 2nd Century Gandharan Art Period
Sanskrit: मैत्रेय (Maitreya)
Pāli Metteyya
ယChinese: 彌勒菩薩 (Mílè Púsa)
Japanese: 弥勒菩薩 (Miroku Bosatsu)
Korean: 미륵보살 (Mireuk Bosal)
ဢရီႉမိတ်ႈတေႇယႃႉThai: พระศรีอริยเมตไตรย (Phra Sri Araya Mettrai)
Tibetan: བྱམས་པ་
Information
Venerated by: Theravada, Mahayana, Vajrayana
Attributes: Great Benevolence
Preceded By: Gautama Buddha
Portal:Buddhism

Maitreya (Sanskrit), Metteyya (Pāli), Maithree (Sinhala), or Jampa (Tibetan), is foretold as a future Buddha of this world in Buddhist eschatology. In some Buddhist literature, such as the Amitabha Sutra and the Lotus Sutra, he is referred to as Ajita Bodhisattva.
Maitreya is a bodhisattva who in the Buddhist tradition is to appear on Earth, achieve complete enlightenment, and teach the pure dharma. According to scriptures, Maitreya will be a successor of the historic Śākyamuni Buddha. The prophecy of the arrival of Maitreya references a time when the Dharma will have been forgotten on Jambudvipa. It is found in the canonical literature of all Buddhist sects (Theravāda, Mahāyāna, Vajrayāna), and is accepted by most Buddhists as a statement about an event that will take place when the Dharma will have been forgotten on Earth.

The name Maitreya (Metteyya in Pāli) is derived from the Sanskrit word maitrī (Pāli: mettā) meaning "loving-kindness", which is in turn derived from the noun mitra (Pāli: mitta) in the sense of "friend".
Metteyya is mentioned in the Cakavatti (Sihanada) Sutta (Digha Nikaya 26) of the Pali Canon. He appears in no other sutta in the Pali Canon, and this has cast doubt as to the sutta's authenticity. Most of the Buddha's sermons are presented as having been presented in answer to a question, or in some other appropriate context, but this sutta has a beginning and ending in which the Buddha is talking to monks about something totally different. This leads Gombrich to conclude that either the whole sutta is apocryphal, or that it has at least been tampered with.[1]


The Bodhisattva Maitreya (water bottle on left thigh), art of Mathura, 2nd century AD.
Maitreya is sometimes represented seated on a throne Western-style, and venerated both in Mahāyāna and non-Mahāyāna Buddhism. Some have speculated that inspiration for Maitreya may have come from the ancient Indo-Iranian deity Mithra. The primary comparison between the two characters appears to be the similarity of their names. According to a book entitled The Religion of the Iranian Peoples, "No one who has studied the Zoroastrian doctrine of the Saoshyants or the coming saviour-prophets can fail to see their resemblance to the future Maitreya.[2]
Paul Williams claims that some Zoroastrian ideas like Saoshyant influenced the beliefs about Maitreya, such as "expectations of a heavenly helper, the need to opt for positive righteousness, the future millennium, and universal salvation". Possible objections are that these characteristics are not unique to Zoroastrianism, nor are they necessarily characteristic of the belief in Maitreya.
It is also possible that Maitreya Buddha originated with the Hindu Kalki, and that its similarities with the Iranian Mithra have to do with their common Indo-Iranian origin.
In the Greco-Buddhist art of Gandhara, in the first centuries CE in northern India, Maitreya was the most popular figure to be represented, together with the Buddha Śākyamuni. In China, in the 4th–6th Centuries "Buddhist artisans used the names Shakyamuni and Maitreya interchangeably... indicating both that the distinction between the two had not yet been drawn and that their respective iconographies had not yet been firmly set"[3] An example is the stone sculpture found in the Qingzhou cache dedicated to Maitreya in 529 CE as recorded in the inscription (currently in the Qingzhou Museum, Shandong). The cult of Maitreya apparently developed around the same time of that of Amitābha, as early as the 3rd century CE.
Characteristics[edit]



A 9th-century CE Srivijayan art bronze Maitreya from South Sumatra, a stupa adorn his crown.
One mention of the prophecy of Maitreya is in the Sanskrit text, the Maitreyavyākaraṇa (The Prophecy of Maitreya). It implies that he is a teacher of meditative trance sadhana and states that gods, men and other beings:
will lose their doubts, and the torrents of their cravings will be cut off: free from all misery they will manage to cross the ocean of becoming; and, as a result of Maitreya's teachings, they will lead a holy life. No longer will they regard anything as their own, they will have no possession, no gold or silver, no home, no relatives! But they will lead the holy life of oneness under Maitreya's guidance. They will have torn the net of the passions, they will manage to enter into trances, and theirs will be an abundance of joy and happiness, for they will lead a holy life under Maitreya's guidance. (Trans. in Conze 1959:241)
General description[edit]

Maitreya is typically pictured seated, with either both feet on the ground or crossed at the ankles, on a throne, waiting for his time. He is dressed in the clothes of either a Bhiksu or Indian royalty. As a bodhisattva, he would usually be standing and dressed in jewels. Usually he wears a small stupa in his headdress that represents the stupa of the Buddha Sakyamuni's relics to help him identify it when his turn comes to lay claim to his succession, and can be holding a dharmachakra resting on a lotus. A khata is always tied around his waist as a girdle.
In the Greco-Buddhist art of Gandhara, in the first centuries CE in northern India, Maitreya is represented as a Central Asian or northern Indian nobleman, holding a "water phial" (Sanskrit: Kumbha) in his left hand. Sometimes this is a "wisdom urn" (Sanskrit: Bumpa). He is flanked by his two acolytes, the brothers Asanga and Vasubandhu.
Maitreya-samiti was an extensive Buddhist play in Pre-Islamic Central Asia[4][5] The Maitreyavyakarana (in Sataka form) in Central Asia and Anagatavamsa in South India also mentioned him.[6][7]
Some Buddhists wished to stay with him after death.[8][9] I-kuan Tao have different descriptions of him.[10][11]
Maitreya's Tuṣita Heaven[edit]



The future Buddha Maitreya, Gandhara, 3rd century CE.
Maitreya currently resides in the Tuṣita Heaven (Pāli: Tusita), said to be reachable through meditation. Śākyamuni Buddha also lived here before he was born into the world as all bodhisattvas live in the Tuṣita Heaven before they descend to the human realm to become Buddhas. Although all bodhisattvas are destined to become Buddhas, the concept of a bodhisattva differs greatly in Theravada and Mahayana Buddhism. In Theravada Buddhism, a bodhisattva is one who is striving for full enlightenment (Arahantship in Pali), whereas in Mahayana Buddhism, a bodhisattva is one who has already reached a very advanced state of grace or enlightenment but holds back from entering nirvana so that he may help others.
In Mahayana Buddhism, once Maitreya becomes a Buddha, he will rule over the Ketumati Pure Land, an earthly paradise sometimes associated with the Indian city of Varanasi (also known as Benares) in Uttar Pradesh. In Mahayana Buddhism, Buddhas preside over a Pure Land (the Buddha Amitabha presides over the Sukhavati Pure Land, more popularly known as the Western Paradise).[12]
In Theravadin Buddhism, Buddhas are born as unenlightened humans, and are not rulers of any paradise or pure land. Maitreya's arising would be no different to the arising of Shakyamuni Buddha, as he achieved full-enlightenment as a human being, and passed away into parinibbana when the conditions were ripe for his final passing. Orthodox Theravadin doctrine has much less emphasis on deities and Bodhisattvas, and do not view Bodhisattvas to be in an unachievable state.
Activity of Maitreya in the current age[edit]

Main article: Maitreya-nātha
In Mahayana schools, Maitreya is traditionally said to have revealed the Five Treatises of Maitreya through Asanga. These important texts are the basis of the Yogachara tradition and constitute the majority of the Third Turning of the Wheel of Dharma.
Future coming of Maitreya[edit]



32 metre (110 ft) statue of Maitreya Buddha in Nubra Valley, Ladakh, India, facing down the Shyok River towards Pakistan.
Maitreya will be the fifth Buddha of the present kalpa[clarification needed] (aeon) and his arrival will occur after the teachings (dharma) of the Buddha are no longer practiced.
His coming is characterized by a number of physical events. The oceans are predicted to decrease in size, allowing Maitreya to traverse them freely. Maitreya will then reintroduce "true" dharma to world.
His arrival signifies the end of the middle time, the time between the fourth Buddha, Gautama Buddha, and the fifth Buddha, Maitreya, which is viewed as a low point of human existence. According to the Cakkavatti Sutta: The Wheel-turning Emperor, Digha Nikaya 26 of the Sutta Pitaka of the Pāli Canon), Maitreya Buddha will be born in a time when humans will live to an age of eighty thousand years, in the city of Ketumatī (present Benares), whose king will be the Cakkavattī Sankha. Sankha will live in the palace where once dwelt King Mahāpanadā, but later he will give the palace away and will himself become a follower of Maitreya Buddha.[13]
The scriptures say that Maitreya will attain bodhi in seven days (which is the minimum period), by virtue of his many lives of preparation for Buddhahood (similar to those reported in the Jataka stories of Shakyamuni Buddha).
At this time a notable teaching he will start giving is that of the ten non-virtuous deeds (killing, stealing, sexual misconduct, lying, divisive speech, abusive speech, idle speech, covetousness, harmful intent and wrong views) and the ten virtuous deeds (the abandonment of: killing, stealing, sexual misconduct, lying, divisive speech, abusive speech, idle speech, covetousness, harmful intent and wrong views).
The Arya Maitreya Mandala, founded by Lama Anagarika Govinda is based on the idea of the future coming of Maitreya.
Nichiren Buddhism and Maitreya as metaphor[edit]



Statue of Maitreya Buddha at Wat Intharawihan, Bangkok
According to the Lotus Sutra of Nichiren Buddhism, each person possesses the potential to reveal an innate Buddha nature during their own lifetime, a concept which may appear to contradict the concept of Buddha as savior or messiah.
Although Maitreya is a significant figure in the Lotus Sutra, the explanation of Nichiren is that Maitreya is a metaphor of stewardship and aid for the Bodhisattvas of the Earth, as written in the Lotus Sutra:
Moreover...all the bodhisattvas, Bodhisattva Maitreya....will guard and protect the votaries of the Lotus Sutra, so one may indeed rest assured.[14]
In much of his writing, Nichiren mentions the traditional Buddhist views on Maitreya but explains that the propagation of the Eternal Dharma of the Lotus Sutra was entrusted by Shakyamuni to the Bodhisattvas of earth
The Buddha did not entrust these five characters to Maitreya, Medicine King, or the others of their group. Instead he summoned forth the bodhisattvas....from the great earth of Tranquil Light and transferred the five characters to them.[15]
Thus, each individual can embody the character of the Maitreya because he is a metaphor for compassion:
The name Maitreya means ‘Compassionate One’ and designates the Votaries of the Lotus Sutra.[16]
Non-Buddhist views[edit]

The concept of Maitreya was elaborated within Theosophy during the last few decades of the 19th century. However the Theosophical Maitreya was explained, and developed, differently than the original Buddhist concept. In Theosophical texts Maitreya has multiple aspects signifying not just the future Buddha, but similar concepts from other religious or spiritual traditions.[17]
In early 20th century, leading Theosophists became convinced that an appearance of the Maitreya as a so-called World Teacher was imminent. A South Indian boy, Jiddu Krishnamurti, was thought to be destined as the "vehicle" of the soon-to-manifest Maitreya; however the manifestation did not happen as predicted, and did not fulfil Theosophists' expectations.[18]
Since the growth of the Theosophical movement in the 19th century, and influenced by Theosophy's articulations on the Maitreya, non-Buddhist religious and spiritual movements have adopted and reinterpreted the concept in their doctrines. Share International, which equates Maitreya with the prophesied figures of multiple religious traditions, claims that he is already present in the world, but is preparing to make an open declaration of his presence in the near future. They claim that he is here to inspire mankind to create a new era based on sharing and justice.[19]
In the beginning of the 1930s, the Ascended Master Teachings placed Maitreya in the "Office of World Teacher" until 1956, when he was described as moving on to the "Office of Planetary Buddha" and "Cosmic Christ" in their concept of a Spiritual Hierarchy.
Some Muslim scholars who studied Buddhist texts believe that Maitreya is "Rahmatu lil-'alameen" (Mercy for The Worlds), which is the name for the prophet Muhammad as it is said in the Qur'an.[20] According to the research on the book Antim Buddha - Maitreya scholars have surmised that Maitreya Buddha is Muhammad.[21] After examining the Buddhist texts researchers concluded that Muhammad had been the last and final awakened Buddha to come into existence long after the current teachings.[22]
The 19th century, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, is believed in by the members of the Ahmadiyya Community (the faith he brought) as fulfilling expectations regarding the Maitreya Buddha.[23]
Bahá'ís believe that Bahá'u'lláh is the fulfillment of the prophecy of appearance of Maitreya.[24][25] Bahá'ís believe that the prophecy that Maitreya will usher in a new society of tolerance and love has been fulfilled by Bahá'u'lláh's teachings on world peace.[24]
Maitreya claimants[edit]

Main article: List of Buddha claimants


Close-up of a statue depicting Maitreya at the Thikse Monastery in Ladakh, India. Depictions of Maitreya vary among Buddhist sects.


Seated Maitreya, Korean, 4-5th century CE. Guimet Museum.


The monk Budai as an incarnation of Maitreya
Since his death, the Chinese monk Budai (Hotei) has been popularly regarded as an incarnation of the bodhisattva Maitreya. His depiction as the Laughing Buddha continues to be very popular in East Asian culture.[dubious – discuss]
While a number of persons have proclaimed themselves to be Maitreya over the years following the Buddha’s parinirvana, none have been officially recognized by the sangha and Buddhists. A particular difficulty faced by any would-be claimant to Maitreya's title is the fact that the Buddha is considered to have made a number of fairly specific predictions regarding the circumstances that would occur prior to Maitreya's coming; such as that the teachings of the Buddha would be completely forgotten, and all of the remaining relics of Sakyamuni Buddha would be gathered in Bodh Gaya and cremated.[dubious – discuss]
The following list is just a small selection of those people who claimed or claim to be the incarnation of Maitreya. Many have either used the Maitreya incarnation claim to form a new Buddhist sect or have used the name of Maitreya to form a new religious movement or cult.
In 613 the monk Xiang Haiming claimed himself Maitreya and adopted imperial title.[26]
In 690 Empress Wu inaugurated the Second Zhou dynasty, proclaimed herself an incarnation of the future Buddha Maitreya, and made Luoyang the "holy capital." In 693 she replaced the compulsory Dao De Jing in the curriculum temporarily with her own Rules for Officials.[27]
Gung Ye, a Korean warlord and king of short-lived state of Taebong during the 10th century, claimed himself as living incarnation of Maitreya and ordered his subjects to worship him. His claim was widely rejected by most Buddhist monks and later he was dethroned and killed by his own servants.
Lu Zhong Yi, the 17th patriarch of I-Kuan Tao, claimed to be an incarnation of Maitreya.
Peter Deunov (Master Beinsa Douno) - spiritual teacher, founder of a teaching and school of Esoteric Christianity. Some students of Rudolf Steiner, an Austrian philosopher, have identified Master Beinsa Douno as a manifestation of Maitreya in the late 20th century.
L. Ron Hubbard, founder of the belief systems Dianetics and Scientology, suggested he was "Metteya" (Maitreya) in the 1955 poem Hymn of Asia. Numerous editors and followers of Hubbard claim that in the book's preface, specific physical characteristics said to be outlined—in unnamed Sanskrit sources—as properties of the coming Maitreya; properties which Hubbard's appearance supposedly aligned with.
Samael Aun Weor - stated in The Aquarian Message that "the Maitreya Buddha Samael is the Kalki Avatar of the New Age." The Kalkian Avatar and Maitreya Buddha, he claimed, are the same "White Rider" of the book of Revelation.
Adi Da was suggested by his devotees to be Maitreya: "an All-Surpassing God-Man yet to come -- a final Avatar, the ultimate Messiah, a consumate Prophet or Enlightened Sage, a Spiritual Deliverer who will appear in the 'late-time', the 'dark' epoch when humanity is lost, apparently cut off from Wisdom, Truth and God. Buddhists call that Expected One 'Maitreya'." [28]
Raël's (Claude Vorilhon's) Maitreya claims [1] center on the content of the Agama Sutra (Japanese: Agon Sutra),[29] supposedly a very ancient text written by Buddha himself, but which has been deemphasized or forgotten by the majority of Buddhist cultures.[30] Raël has claimed directly to people attending Asia Raëlian Church seminars, that someone born in France, a country which is often symbolized by the cock (or rooster), west of the Orient, meets the criteria of the Maitreya. Rael himself claims to be this individual.[31]
Maitreya sects in China[edit]

Pre-Maitreyan Buddhist messianic rebellions[edit]
Southern and Northern Dynasties[edit]
515: The Mahayana Rebellion. In the late summer of that year, the renegade monk Faqing 法慶 married a nun and formed a sect in the Northern Wei province of Jizhou 冀州 (in the southern part of today’s Hebei province) with the assistance of a local aristocrat named Li Guibo 李歸伯. The sect was named the Mahayana ("The Great Vehicle", in reference to Mahayana Buddhism), and Li Guibo was given the titles of Tenth-stage Bodhisattva, Commander of the Demon-vanquishing Army, and King who Pacifies the Land of Han by Faqing.
Using drugs to send its members into a killing frenzy, and promoting them to Tenth-Stage Bodhisattva as soon as they killed ten enemies, the Mahayana sect seized a prefecture and murdered all the government officials in it. Their slogan was "A new Buddha has entered the world; eradicate the demons of the former age", and they would kill all monks and nuns in the monasteries that they captured, also burning all the sutras and icons. After defeating a government army and growing to a size of over 50,000, the rebel army was finally crushed by another government army of 100,000. Faqing, his wife, and tens of thousands of his followers were beheaded, and Li Guibo was also captured later and publicly executed in the capital city Luoyang.
The Fozu Tongji (Comprehensive Records of the Buddha), a chronicle of Buddhist history written by the monk Zhipan in 1269, also contains an account of the Mahayana Rebellion, but with significant deviations from the original account, such as dating the rebellion to 528 rather than 515.[32]
516: The Moonlight Child Rebellion. Toward the end of that year, another sect was discovered by local authorities in Yanling. A man named Fa Quan and his associates were claiming that an eight-year-old child Liu Jinghui was a Bodhisattva called the Moonlight Child (yueguang tongzi pusa; 月光童子菩萨), and that he could transform into a snake or a pheasant. They were arrested and sentenced to death on suspicion of seditious intent, but Jinghui had his sentence commuted to banishment on account of his youth and ignorance.[32]
517: Early in the spring of that year, surviving remnants of the Mahayana rebels regrouped and mounted a sudden attack on the capital of Yingzhou province, which lay just northwest of their original base in Bohai prefecture. They were repelled only after a pitched battle with an army of slaves and attendants led by Yuwen Yan, the son of the provincial governor, and nothing more is known of their fate.[32]
Although a "new Buddha" was mentioned, these rebellions are not considered "Maitreyan" by modern scholars.[32] However, they would be a later influence on the rebel religious leaders that made such claims. Therefore, it is important to mention these rebellions in this context.
Maitreyan rebellions[edit]
Sui Dynasty[edit]
610: On the first day of the Chinese New Year, dozens of rebels dressed in white, burning incense and holding flowers proclaimed their leader as Maitreya Buddha and charged into the imperial palace through one of its gates, killing all the guards before they were themselves killed by troops led by an imperial prince. A massive investigation in the capital (Chang'an) implicated over a thousand families.[32]
613: A skilled magician named Song Zixian claimed to be Maitreya in Tang County (northwest of Yingzhou), and allegedly could transform into the form of Buddha and make his room emit a glow every night. He hung a mirror in a hall that could display an image of what a devotee would be reincarnated as: a snake, a beast or a human being. Nearly a thousand "from near and far" joined his sect every day, and he plotted to first hold a Buddhist vegetarian banquet, or wuzhe fohui, and then attack the emperor who was then touring Yingzhou. The plot was leaked, and Song was arrested and executed, along with over a thousand families of his followers.[32]
613: The monk Xiang Haiming claimed to be Maitreya in Fufeng prefecture (western Shaanxi) and led a rebellion. The elite of the Chang’an area hailed him as dasheng, or holy man, because they had auspicious dreams after following him, and his army swelled to several tens of thousands before he was defeated by government troops.[32]
Tang Dynasty[edit]
710: Wang Huaigu declared, "The Shakyamuni Buddha has declined; a new Buddha is about to appear. The House of Li is ending, and the House of Liu is about to rise".[26]
Song Dynasty[edit]
1047: Army officer Wang Ze led a revolt of Buddhists expecting Maitreya; they took over the city of Beizhou in Hebei before they were crushed.[33] The Song Dynasty government declared Maitreya Sects to be "heresies and unsanctioned religions". Tens of thousands of Maitreya Sect followers were killed.[34]
Yuan and Ming Dynasty[edit]
1351: The Red Turban Rebellion (a.ka. The First White Lotus Rebellion). Han Shantong (韓山童), leader of the White Lotus Society, and Army Commander Liu Futong (劉福通) rebelled against the Mongol masters of the Yuan Dynasty. Shantong's anti-Mongol slogan was "The empire is in utter chaos. Maitreya Buddha has incarnated, and the Manichaean King of Light has appeared in this world."[26]
In 1355, Han Shantong's son, Han Lin'er (韓林兒), was proclaimed "Emperor of the Great [Latter] Song" (大宋, referring to the dead Song Dynasty) (1355-1368?) by Liu Futong. Liu Futong claimed Han Lin'er was a direct descendent of the Zhao royal family who ruled the Song Dynasty. After Liu Futong's death, Zhu Yuanzhang took up command of the Red Turban Rebellion and later assassinated Han Lin'er to become Emperor Hongwu of the Ming Dynasty. (See History)
According to Beijing University,[35]
“ The leader of White Lotus sect, Han Shantong called himself Ming Wang (明王 - "King of Brightness"), while his son, Han Lin'er called himself Xiao Ming Wang (小明王 - "Small King of Brightness"), both names reflecting the sect's beliefs. Zhu Yuanzhang had been a member of the White lotus Sect, and admitted to have been a branch of the White Lotus rebel army (being at one time vice-marshal of Xiao Ming Wang). When Zhu Yuanzhang took power, he chose the dynastic name "Ming". ”
This suggests that the Ming Dynasty was named after the White Lotus figures of the "Big and Little Bright Kings".
Post-Maitreyan rebellions[edit]


Maitreya and disciples, in Budai form, as depicted at the Feilai Feng grottos near Lingyin Temple in China
Qing Dynasty[edit]
1796: The White Lotus Rebellion (a.k.a. The Second White Lotus Rebellion). It broke out among impoverished settlers in the mountainous region that separates Sichuan province from Hubei and Shaanxi provinces. It apparently began as a White Lotus Society protest against heavy taxes imposed by Manchu rulers of the Qing Dynasty.[36]
The Yi He Tuan (義和團), often called in English the "Society of Harmonious Fists" was a 19th-century martial-sect inspired in part by the White Lotus Society. Members of the "Harmonious Fists" became known as "Boxers" in the west because they practiced Chinese martial arts.
1899: The Boxer Rebellion (義和團之亂). Chinese rebellion from November 1899 to September 7, 1901 against foreign influence in such areas as trade, politics, religion and technology that occurred in China during the final years of the Qing Dynasty. By August 1900, over 230 foreigners, tens of thousands of Chinese Christians, an unknown number of rebels, their sympathizers and other innocent bystanders had been killed in the chaos. The uprising crumbled on August 14, 1900 when 20,000 foreign troops entered the Chinese capital, Peking (Beijing).
Albeit not in the name of Maitreya, both rebellions were perpetrated solely or in part by the White Lotus Society, a rebellious Maitreya sect.
Alternative persona[edit]

There was a sage of the same name in the epic Mahabharata. His lineage is unknown. He came to the court of Hastinapura to advise Duryodhana to restore the kingdom of the Pandavas, a little while after the sons of Pandu had gone into exile, having been defeated at dice.
However, Duryodhana didn't even bother to listen to the sage, and showed his disrespect all too plainly. Incensed, the sage cursed him and said, "Fourteen years hence, you shall be destroyed in battle by the Pandavas, along with your kinsmen and all that you hold dear. Bheema shall dispatch you to the abode of Yama, by breaking your thighs with the mace." Some hold that the curse of this sage played a major part in encompassing the destruction of the Kauravas.[37]

gripreaper
15th June 2013, 16:17
It's soulstream energy, not an entity in form. IF I start walking on water, repeating your thoughts back to you, manifesting objects out of nothing right in front of you in an instant, I'm going to be of interest to the elite to exploit, and I will be of special interest to the average person who will want to deify me into a god and raise me up as a savior and cling to me and suck my energy.

Both approaches are parasitical. We need a new approach. Emanating this soul energy into the matrix because we are all going together this time. No more saviors and no more guru's.

jiminii
15th June 2013, 16:30
this definition of Meitreya in (sanscrit) or Metteyya (in pali)

comes from wikipedia ... but even wikipedia DOES NOT KNOW WHO METTEYYA IS

Metteyya is the Thetan ... of the viewpoint named Siddhartha Gautama ... Buddha
Metteyya is the Thetan ... of the viewpoint named LRH L Ron Hubbard
Mettayya is the Thetan ... of the viewpoint named . jiminii and that is me

Metteyya is the Thetan .... to about a million or more Viewpoints similar to me ... created right out of source and send here to raise the vibrations of the planet
now in my case it was a mission ... but not all viewpoints were sent back to just raise the vibrations of the planet ,..

Ok viewpoint is like the golden ball that is near the body that if someone can see it outside their body ... they probably thought this was the spirit

the spirit (Thetan) .. is not in the physical universe MEST (matter energy space and time)
this MEST universe is being created by all the viewpoints inside this universe from the Thetans that are OUTSIDE this MEST universe
the Thetans are static ... no motion no wavelenth .. not matrer no energy no space no time ... but they can create all of these.

I do not know the others ... I have met another named cathy who was created and sent here ... but i do not know what Thetan (spirit) she came from

Inelia Benz says she comes from the Thetan (spirit) of Gaia and as far as i know Gaia also has sent some millions here ... along with the other big beings ... (not sure how many millions were sent in all)

I was trained up to Master Games Player ... and maybe more ... but I did recognize I had finished all the OT (operating thetan) levels they have at Ron's Org

But there must be one viewpoint that can go to source and create these other viewpoints ...

next I will go into the creation

jim

Mike
15th June 2013, 16:34
Ok so we start with what we are ... so we need some definitions for this

tone scale is an arbitrary number of the emotions of a spirit from minus 40 to plus 40

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=21757&stc=1&d=1371308378


hi Jiminii,

curious: how is one's tone deduced accurately from this, as you say, arbitrary system?

is it true that Hubbard wanted to ban "low tone" people from mainstream society? i think I recall reading this in a book called 'Inside Scientology'.

what's your take?

jiminii
15th June 2013, 16:38
It's soulstream energy, not an entity in form. IF I start walking on water, repeating your thoughts back to you, manifesting objects out of nothing right in front of you in an instant, I'm going to be of interest to the elite to exploit, and I will be of special interest to the average person who will want to deify me into a god and raise me up as a savior and cling to me and suck my energy.

Both approaches are parasitical. We need a new approach. Emanating this soul energy into the matrix because we are all going together this time. No more saviors and no more guru's.

right ...
I just gave the definitions as were interpreted by someone who probably got it from LRH's lectures
we don't need to have any more saviors or guru's ... each here is in part creating this universe

we didn't all come into this physical universe at the same time but we follow the mechanics of it

jim

Aurelius
15th June 2013, 17:11
LRH philosophy ...

note: i am not, have not, neither do I intend to become a practicing Scien_olo___t, so I am explaining the information below as it was explained to me, and based on how I understood / interpreted the information.

It was explained to me by a good friend, and he told me you would only come to know this if you heard it directly from LRH or his notes. ie. practicing Scien_olo___ts would NOT come to know this (not sure about the breakaway orgs though?):

1. Scien_olo__ was designed to be oppressive
2. he (LRH) is back and is behind this (http://www.spiritologie.org/2500-years-ago.html) (curiously the way it was explained I can't confirm he's back in person?). It is essentially Scien_olo__ v2.0 .. more free and less oppressive than v1.0
3. everything is "cooked" !! ie. we are one being (a god?), put in the ultimate prison (the ultimate prison is one you're in and you don't even know it! Supposedly the only way you can imprison / restrain something with god like powers?).
4. this was not told told me, but i'm adding it as my conjecture: it is as if we (the one) are in a dream state (sleeping?)
5. Everything you experience, everything that happens, everything you know is part of a "program" (very similar to a software program - a specific term was used) created by those that imprisoned us (other god/s?).
6. When i say "everything" above i mean EVERYTHING: atoms, the universe, reality!!, ET's, God, the gods, ascension, multiple realities / dimensions, the cosmos, the emotional tone scale, Illuminati, DNA, ketchup the WHOLE lot! .. is all manufactured (electronically). This doesn't preclude what has been cooked up within the software being a reflection / representative of what's outside the software (real reality?)
7. The techniques taught to Scien_olo____s breakdown these mini programs within the main program (a specific term was used - that I can't remember)
8. When you have broken down ALL the programs, reality as you know it will cease to exist, only then will you be free
9. We (the One?) have been in this program (prison?) for a long time (billions of years? ie. since the BEGINNING) and it will continue to exist for billions of years (to the END?)
10. Our prisoner/s? come from a location, we also came from there. Very little is know about "them" and "there" for obvious reasons.
11. We were imprisoned because we caused trouble (for them?). We didn't tow the party line?
12. my thoughts - if we are dealing with "software", most probably an AI, it must manage itself in a particular way, if one understood this, could the software (us) manage / manipulate the software (the container)?
13. i was also told within the "software", Jews ( i don't know which group) was nominated by the "software" to manage "us" (the human code within the software). As you know the "us" within the software has many aspects ie. the physical / non-pysical etc. (but all still within the software).
14. in Kerry's latest Awake and Aware conference it was interesting to hear Preston Nichols' talk, he pretty much said all the above in a similar way.
15. there are "groups" that understand the above (part of the One ie. within the "software") and use this understanding to control / manipulate others / reality etc. (really just parts of the software managing other parts of the software).

fyi .. these (http://www.tep-online.info/laku/usa/reli/scien/SECRETDOX/AXIOMS_OF_SCIENTOLOGY.pdf)are know as the Sci.... axioms. Have a read!

Strange theory ey?

.. the chap who explained this to me knows his stuff and can manipulate reality. Don't casually scuff this info aside, give it some consideration. Appears there is a lot of other philosophy / models out there that correlate with this in some manner.

jiminii
15th June 2013, 17:17
Ok so we start with what we are ... so we need some definitions for this

tone scale is an arbitrary number of the emotions of a spirit from minus 40 to plus 40

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=21757&stc=1&d=1371308378


hi Jiminii,

curious: how is one's tone deduced accurately from this, as you say, arbitrary system?

is it true that Hubbard wanted to ban "low tone" people from mainstream society? i think I recall reading this in a book called 'Inside Scientology'.

what's your take?

wow that jpg is so small how do we make it bigger ...

he found this tone scale through auditing people .. he found people would be stuck somewhere on this scale ... like the person is always in grief ... or anger .. that is their typical everyday emotion

so then he found tones below death ... like owning bodies ... controlling bodies .. these are tone levels for the spirit being .. and then there is the tone levels for just a body ... (body with only a GE .. no spirit) they go from 0 death . to 4 enthusiasm
but the spirit goes all the way to plus 40 .. 30 would be postulates .. being able to create an object out of nothing ...

he found the tones were also a way to manage people ... he found that people who are in grief will not communicate with other tone levels ..

he found in order to communicate with someone in grief . you have to come close to their tone level .. so just above grief is propitiation ... so you should communicate just between those to .. then the person will communicate with you
then you keep raising the tone level so you can get the person out of grief
same with other tone levels ... if someone is angry the next tone is pain ... so go between pain and anger you can raise the person out of anger ..

something like this

jim

jiminii
15th June 2013, 17:45
Ok so we start with what we are ... so we need some definitions for this

tone scale is an arbitrary number of the emotions of a spirit from minus 40 to plus 40

click on the pictures to make them larger

ok they are larger

johnf
15th June 2013, 18:09
Jim,
Your avatar is reversed, Thunder24 has pointed this out to me, and I have just realized.

Meteyya In Jim.

Is that A LOL or what.

Either way, it is a KOAN to comtemplate. Jim In Meteyya, Meteyya in Jim.
Or for Anyone, Iam part of the All, and the All is in me, that sort of thing.

jf

jiminii
15th June 2013, 18:27
LRH philosophy ...

note: i am not, have not, neither do I intend to become a practicing Scien_olo___t, so I am explaining the information below as it was explained to me, and based on how I understood / interpreted the information.

It was explained to me by a good friend, and he told me you would only come to know this if you heard it from LRH directly or his notes. ie. by practicing Scien_olo___ts would NOT come to know this (not sure about the breakaway orgs though):

1. Scien_olo___t was designed to be oppressive
2. he (LRH) is back and is behind this (http://www.spiritologie.org/2500-years-ago.html) (curiously the way it was explained I can't confirm he's back in person?). It is essentially Scien_olo__ v2.0 .. more free and less oppressive than v1.0
3. everything is "cooked" !! ie. we are one being (a god?), put in the ultimate prison (the ultimate prison is one you're in and you don't even know it. Something that has to be done to something with ultimate god like powers?).
4. this was not explicitly told told me, but i'm adding it away: it is as if we (the one) are in a dream state (sleeping?)
5. Everything you experience, everything that happens, everything you know is part of a "program" (very similar to a software program - a specific term was used that I can't remember) created by those that imprisoned us (other god/s?).
6. When i say "everything" above i mean EVERYTHING: atoms, the universe, reality!!, ET's, God, the gods, ascension, multiple realities / dimensions, the cosmos, the emotional tone scale, DNA, ketchup the WHOLE lot! .. was all manufactured (electronically).
7. The techniques taught by Scien_olo__ breakdown these programs (a specific term was used that I can't remember)
8. When you have broken down ALL the programs, reality as you know it will cease to exist, only then will you be free
9. We (the one?) have been in this program (prison?) for a loooong time (billions of years? ie. since the BEGINNING) .. strange to say even through time doesn't really exist as we think it does. It will continue to exist for billions of years (the END?)
10. Our prisoner/s? come from a location, we also came from there. Very little is know about them and there for obvious reasons.
11. We were imprisoned because we caused trouble (for them?). We didn't tow the party line?

fyi .. these (http://www.tep-online.info/laku/usa/reli/scien/SECRETDOX/AXIOMS_OF_SCIENTOLOGY.pdf)are know as the Sci.... axioms. Have a read!

Strange theory ey?

.. the chap who explained this to knows his stuff. Don't casually scuff this info aside, give it some consideration.

ok let's get this clear .. I will change the title of this thread to Jiminii's viewpoint of LRH's philosophy

which should be done soon

for one ... the Church of Scientology that is in existence now was designed to be oppressive and this is the reason

LRH found that the church had been infiltrated by sleeper children controlled by reptilians .. when they grow up they will be managed by reptilians the same way that reptilians manage their own .. a queen bee manages her nest .. type thing
so these sleeper children would wake up and take over the church of scientology from the inside ..and it's purpose was to steal all the OT (operating Thetan) levels to use for themselves to take over this planet . so LRH set it up so that those he trusted would not allow the upper OT levels to get into the hands of the reptilians .. the rest is history so the original Church of Scientology became oppressive
LRH is not on the planet .. he is in galactic command center
most of the people coming on this planet have been coming in the last 500 years prisoners of the last war in the stars
and if you want to go back to that system .. you are welcome to do it ... it is identical to the USA government only the size of this galaxy bigger ... if you don't think you have freedom on this planet ... go back there ... where you came from
if everything you experience is being caused by some program ... and you think it is all fate ... then you have lost control of your own ability to operate ... believing it is ALL GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWAY
I do what I want ... I am not on some program someone else put me on ... I am doing my mission and I am not worried what will happen if I die
if I die I will go back to the future where I came from ... do you know where you will go when you die?
for the rest believe what you want

jim

jiminii
15th June 2013, 18:39
Ok so we start with what we are ... so we need some definitions for this

tone scale is an arbitrary number of the emotions of a spirit from minus 40 to plus 40

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=21757&stc=1&d=1371308378


hi Jiminii,

curious: how is one's tone deduced accurately from this, as you say, arbitrary system?

is it true that Hubbard wanted to ban "low tone" people from mainstream society? i think I recall reading this in a book called 'Inside Scientology'.

what's your take?

I think what he was saying was low tone people will pull the society down ... and if they were separated from society until they could be processed it would be better ... since the pain that is pulling their tone level down can not be removed until they go back to that moment in time and vanish the incident ...

jim

johnf
15th June 2013, 18:45
No matter what the group is was or will be that has come here and turned into a religion,
philosophy, government, or book of the month club, it is part of the greater shared reality.
I think every particle that exists, has the finger of every being everywhere on it.
We all have a say.
We all have the choice to percieve, decide how to respond, and that feeds back into the creative loop.
So, are you going to participate in the prison planet idea?
Are you going to participate in the happy Game idea?
Perhaps the original idea was blissfull , playfull, adventurous creation.
Then we wanted more challenge, more excitement, and things got more solid, more real seeming.
The LRH philosophy is just one angle on this, maybe it is directly connected to Hinduism, or budhism , or maybe not.
I look at everything Jimini posts as tools that I can use to expand my awareness.

One thing I do with it is to further remove my own identities which which no longer serve me.
Actually I find that to be My basic purpose as I understand it today.
And I look, have looked at a lot of teachings.
It is not easy to keep it simple ,and acknowledge the actual complexity of the REAL universe, but maybe we ARE up to the task.

jf

jiminii
15th June 2013, 18:45
Jim,
Your avatar is reversed, Thunder24 has pointed this out to me, and I have just realized.

Meteyya In Jim.

Is that A LOL or what.

Either way, it is a KOAN to comtemplate. Jim In Meteyya, Meteyya in Jim.
Or for Anyone, Iam part of the All, and the All is in me, that sort of thing.

jf

right .. I fixed that .. I am one of the viewpoints of metteyya ... means I am created out of that spirit
the 3 that I know about is LRH ...and Siddhartha Gautama ... Buddha ..and me ..... I ran all of LRH's pictures at the Flag Land Base and I ran all of Siddhartha's pictures in thailand
Siddhartha is still on this planet .. LRH is not .. he want back to the future where he and I came from created new out the static of Metteyya and trained to do these missions
his was a different mission than mine

jiom

jiminii
15th June 2013, 19:00
from my viewpoint what we did from the 1st run worked ... we won .. but we are doing the second run now ... this time has already happened ... we are created new out of the static .. but this time we have no automatic recording memory ... that will have all these booby trapped hypnotic commands in them ... so it doesn't matter where we put all these new millions we sent back here .. into any religion ... they are new spirits (actually viewpoints created from spirit to manage these bodies), out of source with no experience ... starting new so all their powers can open up natural maybe even by accident like mine did ... they will be closer to the truth too ... coming straight out of the static ... and they WILL align the planet ... and we are watching too from the future so see how this turns out too.

jim

johnf
15th June 2013, 19:29
from my viewpoint what we did from the 1st run worked ... we won .. but we are doing the second run now ... this time has already happened ... we are created new out of the static .. but this time we have no automatic recording memory ... that will have all these booby trapped hypnotic commands in them ... so it doesn't matter where we put all these new millions we sent back here .. into any religion ... they are new spirits (actually viewpoints created from spirit to manage these bodies), out of source with no experience ... starting new so all their powers can open up natural maybe even by accident like mine did ... they will be closer to the truth too ... coming straight out of the static ... and they WILL align the planet ... and we are watching too from the future so see how this turns out too.

jim

Got ya. For me though I have to wonder if The LRH project is the only one.
Also I am not so sure the special powers thing is all that helpful.

We can create without energy, without personalities, (a theory).
If we be the simplest I we can, the waves of optimum outcome just emanate out of us and
lighten up the apparencies around us.
No beams , no excess thoughts just gentle asisness, with enough Is on it to cause an effect.

I have studied a lot of stuff besides LRH, etc, and Sometimes I think it is the same stuff just said different ways.
Maybe where I finally wound up before being recreated was just a bunch of points in space thinking all in unison, something like, Well that was refreshing.
There would in a true happy ending be no isms, no ologies or anities, all would be in perfect agreement with nothing.
Maybe one big being, maybe in some sense an infinite number.

(Now this next part is from the joker and degrader in me)

Then some bonehead would go let there be light!
And we would all do a facepalm, and get back to work.
There is allways one of em ya know.

jf

jiminii
15th June 2013, 20:09
Well I started out being born in Utah ... had a horse and a dog ... and they were my best friends ... I never had an argument with my horse or my dog ... but some of those around me were trying to teach me this unnatural way of communication with words that don't show true feelings ... and after I started to learn these words I started to realize they only wanted me to learn them because they didn't have enough people to argue with ... so after I learned the words I have been arguing ever since.

so it was more fun for me to live true with the animals ... and those days were innocent ..I never stayed home my mom was in this kind of system .. maybe she got it from her parents .. wanted me to take naps ... so I would sneak out of the window and cross this super highway to go play with my friends ,... then suddenly I see my mom on the other side ... she looked like she was in some kind of panic ... throwing her arms out like she didn't want me to move or something ... and came running across the street and almost got hit by a car herself ... and grabs me by my hand ... and I had only one way to defend myself

I just looked up and said, "mom you can get killed crossing the street like that." ..

she looked down at me in surprise and said, "uh .. yeah"

so I really had problems to educate my parents and get them to loosen up a bit ...

just thought I was a cowboy from Utah ... but after 4 1/2 years old .. things started to change ... little miracles happened ... and I could tell you some but ...
something definitely changed ... the speed at what I could learn things ...

you see I fell out of a tree and landing on my face ... and broke my nose .. so the nose wasn't set right and this gave me hay fever ... so the doctor had me on a milk bread diet trying to find out what my allergy was ...
I learned it years later ... met a chiropractor who could look down your body and tell you everything that was wrong with no x ray .. he could see auras .. and he said, "who broke your nose and didn't reset it right .. you got hay fever don't you"

well this wasn't going to save me at 4 1/2 years old ... I was dying ... and my dad said I was so skinny that I was like bones ... so he ordered my mom to feed me and I got ok in a week

but the spirit that was in me left and Metteyya entered the body ... I didn't know this at the time ... and in fact I never suspected I had anything special ... somehow the powers turned on because of some Buddhist chant I tired on Hollywood blvd
and the miracles happened from then on .. one after another ... so then I had to study it ... my thoughts were happening one after another and both good and bad where happening and it was getting dangerous ... so I found the book Phoenix lectures by LRH that taught me how to control my thoughts .. but metteyya ..???... I studied the book and thought ANYONE could do it if they practiced like me ... but .. I had NEVER been able to get another to do it ...

and I would find out the why only a few years ago in spring 2011 ... why it took so long?

jim

Bill Ryan
15th June 2013, 20:46
Hi Jim,

Could you possibly make the above image larger?

Here it is: :)


http://projectavalon.net/emotional_tone_scale.jpg

Bill Ryan
15th June 2013, 20:53
Ok so we start with what we are ... so we need some definitions for this

tone scale is an arbitrary number of the emotions of a spirit from minus 40 to plus 40

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=21757&stc=1&d=1371308378


hi Jiminii,

curious: how is one's tone deduced accurately from this, as you say, arbitrary system?

is it true that Hubbard wanted to ban "low tone" people from mainstream society? i think I recall reading this in a book called 'Inside Scientology'.

what's your take?

Hi, Mike:

It's the numbering that's arbitrary. The sequencing of the emotional tones is very exact.

jiminii
15th June 2013, 21:43
Ok 14 years old .... I went out of my body from gasoline fumes next to my horse ... I was about 16 feet in the air to the right of my horse and was looking at the horse and the horse turned his head to the right and raise his head up and looked me straight into my eyes ... now this must be spirit eyes .. and it was directly ... I came back into my body and ran my entire life to birth in a few seconds ... but it was different ...
between each picture there was a gap ... the gap was like going into nothing ... like a loud pop . and pop pop pop ... it is like going into total silence with no feelings at all .. a short gap between each ... it is like turning this 3d movie I am in with the weight of body, humidity, temperature, balance, noise ... and 52 more perceptions ... to NOTHING .. complete emptiness ... all the pictures and a gap between them
from that time on I've always wondered if a horse can see a spirit.

I just recently learned about super static from Ron's Org ... It is only on their grade chart so I don't know what their definition of it is ... but I have that ability to go from being inside this universe to being in the static itself instantaneous ... when running pictures ... I ran all of LRH's pictures in Florida ... and he was REALLY afraid to let me see them ... he couldn't stop it either .. and he was constantly (in my space being to being) trying to justify part of his life .... maybe this is when he was doing stuff with alex crowley .. I don't know ... but the EP (end phenomenon) of this was when all the pictures ran out ... I flashed, "I'm going to lose my Japanese wife." .. I could see the sequence ... so I routed out and went to Los Angeles and finally got her back from International Org ... only to lose her again from some OT 5 named Sue Embeck who has some think about a person's ability ... I told her I could drive statistics up to highest evers and I proved it by driving them also to the bottom ...
she yelled, "you can't drive the stats up ... besides you crashed the stats" ... she is saying I can't drive them up but I can drive them down ,... what kind of think is this ..???..

she steals my wife from my apartment while I am at work ... my wife was working for her and she was 3rd partying me and also auditing out the marriage to deliberately break up the marriage ....

so this is the old Church of Scientology with the old management ... they were breaking up families and marriages in and outside the organization ,...

when I was in Thailand I ran all of Siddhartha Gautama's pictures too ... but running LRH's and Siddhartha pictures did NOT have a gap between each picture ... only my own pictures caused gaps
and when a class 8 auditor tried to audit me .. my past was blank ... before this life time ... she could not audit me because I was from the future ... and she is asking the past saying "go earlier"
there was no earlier ... so I had to make the meter move and pop back into the past so I could give her something .. to protect my identity and who I was. the meter still read something or she wouldn't ask me to go earlier ... but she never thought of asking me to go into the future.

so this gives you an idea of where we originally came from ... and that was a static

jim

johnf
15th June 2013, 21:54
Thanks Jim, I feel more caught up on your story.
If a being came here newly created out of static, and actually picked up the body, things would be different I presume.
In your case it was the walk in route it looks like.

jf

jiminii
15th June 2013, 22:22
17 the football game ... and after 14 I was never afraid of anything again .... in the football game I got hit in the solar plexus and went up over the trees and football field about 200 feet ... this is called theta clear in Scientology ... the spirit leaves the body to protect itself in an emergency ...while I was up there for a very short time I realized this, "I know .... and I know that I know that I know everything without a doubt"
I came back into the body and was like going through some kind of energy field and snapping awake ... and couldn't stop talking and trying to tell what happened ... it was one of the most awesome feelings I have ever had ... and from that moment I was looking for another way to get out of my body ... I KNEW ...if I could get out again ... I could find out WHAT I KNEW ... after school I join the navy ... walk into a book store ... and see some title of a book called "astral projection" ... and go to the counter and ask ... what does this mean? and they would tell me it is spirit out of body ... and I was sooooooooo surprised ... "how did I know to pick THAT book?" .... a lot of things happened ... and things like something would grab my foot and put it on the brake 3 seconds before a car would run a stop sign on the right alley that this body could not see and stop the car before I got to the corner ... to suddenly see the car miss me by a few inches ... if I didn't stop the car ... the girl sitting to my right would have been killed

then the Case supervisor at Scientology ask me to read the definition of "Native State" ... I did .. and then I had to clear a definition "no-games condition" .. and I went into hysterical laughter for hours ....

yes ... "I am Native State" ... and this is where scientology is trying to get everyone to as a final goal ... their original Native State as a spirit being ..
and I am already there and have done almost no processing and training

The night before I joined the Sea Org the first time I was in my room in Hollywood and half awake and half asleep .. (body asleep) and I suddenly find myself in the operations room of a UFO ... and am getting recall so fast ... I know this ship and how to operate this and this and this and this ... then the ET gets my attention with telepathy ... I turn and this is 1971 ... before any pictures ever came out about grays ... I see this alien on a ship before I ever saw a picture of him .... and he sends a telepathic message ... it is like putting the words inside me ... there is no body or ears to hear .... and he says, "I am going to heal you " and he meant spiritually ... this caused me to look to the right and see a box ... and I knew this box .. it is used to inspire whole earth languages into you in about 17 hours ... and I suddenly realized "i know how to repair this box .. I know how to repair everything on the ship and I know the theory of operation ,, and all ... I turned back ..I could see the computer lights reflecting of his big black eyes .. and I said "go ahead"
and I was back in my room with only the memory of the mechanics of the ship gone and how to operate it .... I knew when I was on that ship ... about a mission I am on ... and I was not afraid like others ...

I was in San Diego and was at a hot dog stand ... and sat down at a table where an old lady sat and immediately we were talking about UFO's
she sent me to a church and said I will find more people there ... I went there and they were doing healings with hands but not touching the body ...
the same like me when I moved my hand near a girls face and her toothache stopped immediately and she said,"what did you do ??? my toothache is gone" .. I said "I don't know what I did"
I started talking about the UFO and many are asking questions but I kept looking at this girl and she said, "you were home weren't you?"
I said, "what?"
she said, "you were home weren't you?"
and I said, "YES ... I was home"

how did she know how to say the exact words that would wake me up
I was not afraid because that ship was my home ...


jim

Mike
16th June 2013, 01:49
do you think we can audit Obama, and bring him back to the time the Constitution was written, have him read the whole thing several times over before returning him to the present?:wink:

Jim, i don't think Hubbard ever met Crowley in the flesh. i could be wrong, but i believe Parsons mentioned Hubbard to Crowley a few times, something to do with being impressed with this man who was very much in tune with his "guardian angel". this opinion changed rather quickly though, when Hubbard took Parsons for a ride on a fraudulent business deal involving the purchase of yachts in miami. Near broke, Parsons was forced to shut down the..er...eccentric 24 hour party going on at his house in those days.;) this is my understanding anyway. like i said, i could be wrong...

thanks for blowing up that tonal scale, Bill. why do you think 'sympathy' and 'making amends' is indicated as being less desirable than things like 'no sympathy', 'fear', 'terror' etc...?

Jim or Bill: can you say a thing or 2 about 'self-auditing'? i've heard crazy stories of vitamin concoctions mixed with benzadrine being used in this practice? admittedly though, the book i read seemed only interested in exploiting Hubbard and his ideas, so i'm probably a dimension or 2 away from the truth.

Hervé
16th June 2013, 02:16
For starter, there is this letter from Parsons to Crowley:



“About 3 months ago I met Capt L Ron Hubbard, a writer and explorer of whom I had known for some time …. [no omission] He is a gentleman, red hair, green eyes, honest and intelligent and we have become great friends. He moved in with me about two months ago, and although Betty and I are still friendly, she has transferred her sexual affections to him.

Although he has no formal training in Magick he has an extraordinary amount of experience and understanding in the field. From some of his experiences I deduce he is in direct touch with some higher intelligence, possibly his Guardian Angel. He is the most Thelemic person I have ever met and is in complete accord with our own principles. He is also interested in establishing the New Aeon, but for cogent reasons I have not introduced him to the Lodge.

We are pooling our resources in a partnership which will act as a parent company to control our business ventures. I think I have made a great gain, and as Betty and I are the best of friends, there is little loss ….

I need a magical partner. I have many experiments in mind. I hope my elemental gets off the dime [gets moving] – the next time I tie up with a woman it will be on [my] own terms.”

Then, a research done in an attempt to get to the bottom of these gossips yields the following:



Critics have accused Ron of “swindling” Jack Parsons, and while Wright doesn’t add new news to this theory, he certainly manages to leave some important facts out.

Basically, Ron and Jack, in the short 4-5 months that they hung out and became good friends in 1945/1946, decided to go into business together — it was going to be a wide ranging enterprise, and the first idea was to buy three yachts cheaply on the east coast (Miami), bring them across the Panama Canal by hiring crews, and then selling them at a significant mark-up to the rich celebrity crowd in southern California. Parsons put up most of the money, but didn’t have to do any work. Hubbard put in a bit of money, but was responsible for doing all the legwork. This is a common business arrangement, where one partner provides the money, the other takes care of operations.

Beyond that, there were a number of future ideas that the two had thought up, including adding Hubbard’s writings to the partnership, Parsons was going to add some of the assets from his rocket work. (Source: Strange Angel, by Pendle). According to Heinlein, Hubbard talked up an idea of going to other countries, including a “China venture” — in one letter to Hubbard in 1946, Heinlein scolded Hubbard for being too talkative about China, getting his (Heinlein’s) nephews overly excited about exotic trips there.
[Source: Heinlein biography by Patterson]).

But forty years later, this became “Hubbard tried to swindle Parsons” in the minds of his critics, for two reasons:

(1) Because Ron was still in the Navy, he was required to get permission to leave the country. He listed South America, Central America and China as possible destinations. Because China was nowhere near the Panama Canal, this, in the minds of Hubbard’s critics, was due to Ron’s “secret plans to go to China”. Yeah, real secret — Heinlein was actually upset that Ron was talking about it too much.

(2) Crowely and his OTO team didn’t trust people — they didn’t trust Jack (to think for himself), they didn’t trust someone named Smith. They had endless back-stabbing drama amongst themselves. And their latest object of distrust was Ron. When Crowley (living in England, and having never met Ron) heard about the business venture, he decided that it was all a con by Ron and that he needed to brow-beat Jack, and with the help from other members of the drama-filled OTO, ultimately convinced Jack that Ron was swindling him.

In the mean time, Ron was busily carrying out the business plan (with the help of Betty) in Miami for about a month, had bought the boats and even hired the crews. But Jack had been convinced by Crowley and others that Ron wasn’t staying in touch with Jack enough, and therefore Ron must be onto something tricky. So Jack races across the country to find Ron and Betty doing exactly what they had all agreed to do. Ron had actually purchased three yachts! And worse, he had arranged the crews to sail them through the Panama Canal. The horror of it all!

Jack, having been all worked up by the OTO (and wanting to stay in good graces with Crowley), forced the partnership to be dissolved.

Hubbard and Betty were left thinking: WTF?

(Sources: “Strange Angel”, by Pendle; “Heinlein Biography, Vol 1″, by Patterson.)

Believe me, when Hubbard later referred to Aleister Crowley in a lecture as his “good friend”, he was joking. And the audience knew it. They chuckled when he said it.

... make of it what thou wilt...

Mike
16th June 2013, 03:02
thanks. i wilt:)

jiminii
16th June 2013, 03:38
do you think we can audit Obama, and bring him back to the time the Constitution was written, have him read the whole thing several times over before returning him to the present?:wink:

Jim, i don't think Hubbard ever met Crowley in the flesh. i could be wrong, but i believe Parsons mentioned Hubbard to Crowley a few times, something to do with being impressed with this man who was very much in tune with his "guardian angel". this opinion changed rather quickly though, when Hubbard took Parsons for a ride on a fraudulent business deal involving the purchase of yachts in miami. Near broke, Parsons was forced to shut down the..er...eccentric 24 hour party going on at his house in those days.;) this is my understanding anyway. like i said, i could be wrong...

thanks for blowing up that tonal scale, Bill. why do you think 'sympathy' and 'making amends' is indicated as being less desirable than things like 'no sympathy', 'fear', 'terror' etc...?

Jim or Bill: can you say a thing or 2 about 'self-auditing'? i've heard crazy stories of vitamin concoctions mixed with benzadrine being used in this practice? admittedly though, the book i read seemed only interested in exploiting Hubbard and his ideas, so i'm probably a dimension or 2 away from the truth.

ever see 2 drunks at a bar ... they talk about how impossible it is to solve any problems they have with their children ...

low town sympathy is like we have a guy in the quicksand pit .. up to his neck ... and sympathy comes along and says, "well I don't know how to get you out so I will jump in with you and we will go down together"

next no sympathy up comes along and throws him both ends of the rope at the same time and says, "ok let's see you get out"

high tone sympathy comes along and says, "hey I will throw you a rope and pull you out" .. now the guy in the quicksand pit is low tone and says, "no I can do it myself"

so high tone sympathy says, "ok I will tie the rope here and you can pull yourself out."

the guy in quicksand pit says, "no I can do it myself" ... so high tone sympathy says, "ok I just threw you the rope and it is tied to the stump and you can get out if you like ,... see you later ok?"

you don't bother with people who refuse your help

jim

jiminii
16th June 2013, 03:56
Posted by Chinaski (here)
do you think we can audit Obama, and bring him back to the time the Constitution was written, have him read the whole thing several times over before returning him to the present?

OT 7 is suppose to audit areas .. don't know about what all the OT levels made by Captain Bill Robertson does ... and it is possible they are auditing from the future ... so what can we audit that will work???

i don't know ... I never became an auditor .. It was always stopped somehow ... which some might say .. it has something to do with me ... I did everything ... to try to get awake ... always stopped for some arbitrary .. but go to college and get a BS degree in San Diego .. I had no problems doing it .. and getting to find out about myself and where my abilities come from being audited by trey ... there was no stops ... so the way I see it ... I was intentionally being stopped for some reason ... and now when I saw the gradation chart at Ron's Org .. I know why ,... I had already done all these OT levels in the future before I came here ... so that is why it was so easy for me to open up those powers without having sessions or training

jim

bearcow
16th June 2013, 04:23
somehow the powers turned on because of some Buddhist chant I tired on Hollywood blvd

yup...........

jiminii
16th June 2013, 09:03
from here if you want to know how to change your future and use your thoughts to be cause over you life you will need to read the Phoenix Lectures ,. in my opinion

jim

jiminii
16th June 2013, 09:59
ok this is part of the time track of theta tapes
and I highlighted in different colors that LRH was worried there was another LRH going to open up Scientology before him .. and he said "and they were ... but not on this planet"

if you notice .. he says AND THEY WERE ... see more than one other body

also the commands to find your other bodies are here


TIME TRACK OF THETA (HISTORY OF MAN) LECTURES 3/4

**************************************************

HISTORY OF MAN SERIES 3: THETA AND GENETIC LINES OF EARTH

Titled "HISTORY OF THE THETA LINE" in R&D 10.

For instance, every once in a while you'll find a preclear who will sit around and listen to advice from somebody. He will. He'll sit around and he'll get inspirations or he'll get something from somebody else or something else, and what he's doing there is about the same equivalent, but much different - a mind-reading act, sort of. He's over on the other side taking tips from what somebody else knows. And he says, "This is inspiration. This is my intuition at work."

And here's some other fellow sitting over someplace, working like mad, working something out and figuring something out. Well, that's where he's getting the data. Now, for instance, you take Kelly and Bessemer. This is a notable example - Kelly and Bessemer. One sat in England and one sat in Kentucky, and they invented - within two days of each other, completed the invention of - a process of making steel. And they call it today the Bessemer process. They might as well call it the Kelly process, because it was invented simultaneously in both places. Same guy.

There's nothing much to this. Alexander Graham Bell busily invented the telephone here; it was simultaneously invented all over the world. There was practically every country in the world had some facsimile of Alexander Graham Bell - wonderful transfer.

What's quite remarkable about all of the research in which I have been engaged is it hasn't flashed up anyplace else. And that's remarkable! It has not come up anyplace else on earth. On earth. (laughter)

But this jealousy of identities was such, actually, that in the early days when I was working on this I was experiencing a terrific anxiety. I knew the next five minutes somebody was going to appear on the stands with this first book I wrote on the subject. You see, I knew somebody else knew. I knew somebody else was working on it too. And they were. But not here on earth. Anyway ... (laughter)

Well now, what I'm talking to you about, you'll find applicable. There are preclears right here in this audience that are sort of vaguely "not me." And it's kind of "not me" a little bit. And they think to themselves, "Well, any moment now I'll be me." But you start them up the line, you get them going a little bit further and evidently something kind of bats them down again. You can't figure out what's batting them down. They start up Tone Scale and BAT - they'll go down again. Put them on the machine and simply ask them this question: "Is there somebody else holding your abberations in place?"

It says "Yes" - bang, machine operates.

"Where is this person?" and there'll be a little twitch, and you'll ask him - well, according to continents, Earth, anyplace else, stars, so on.

All of a sudden, BOW, you'll get something. Maybe the fellow is in Birmingham or something of the sort, and you've got across on the line. Well, the second you get this awareness, two things may start to happen. You may start to pick up the fellow's engrams from Birmingham. And if you do, go ahead and run them. They're common engrams on the line. But all you're doing is running locks off of common engrams. You see, it's theta, it's facsimiles, and they've got, actually, banks in common.

jiminii
16th June 2013, 15:04
For instance, every once in a while you'll find a preclear who will sit around and listen to advice from somebody. He will. He'll sit around and he'll get inspirations or he'll get something from somebody else or something else, and what he's doing there is about the same equivalent, but much different - a mind-reading act, sort of. He's over on the other side taking tips from what somebody else knows. And he says, "This is inspiration. This is my intuition at work."

And here's some other fellow sitting over someplace, working like mad, working something out and figuring something out. Well, that's where he's getting the data. Now, for instance, you take Kelly and Bessemer. This is a notable example - Kelly and Bessemer. One sat in England and one sat in Kentucky, and they invented - within two days of each other, completed the invention of - a process of making steel. And they call it today the Bessemer process. They might as well call it the Kelly process, because it was invented simultaneously in both places. Same guy.




What's quite remarkable about all of the research in which I have been engaged is it hasn't flashed up anyplace else. And that's remarkable! It has not come up anyplace else on earth. On earth. (laughter)

But this jealousy of identities was such, actually, that in the early days when I was working on this I was experiencing a terrific anxiety. I knew the next five minutes somebody was going to appear on the stands with this first book I wrote on the subject. You see, I knew somebody else knew. I knew somebody else was working on it too. And they were. But not here on earth. Anyway ... (laughter)


simply ask them this question: "Is there somebody else holding your abberations in place?"

It says "Yes" - bang, machine operates.

"Where is this person?" and there'll be a little twitch, and you'll ask him - well, according to continents, Earth, anyplace else, stars, so on.

LRH talks about the 2 people who created steel 2 days apart .. saying they are run by the same spirit being

then he talks about himself .. how he was worried that someone else would write the book before he does .. he was sure that someone else would come up with scientology before him .. meaning another body he is managing ... he talks about the jealousy between the two people being run by the same spirit being ...

well in this lifetime I had no jealousy except one .. and that was LRH ... I was jealous that he could do all that he did and yet I am from the same spirit he is .. but i wasn't here to put scientology here .. I was here to give him the upper levels .. all the way to OT 40 .. that I didn't see on his Gradation Charts ...

then he gives the commands you use to locate the other bodies I am also managing ... but auditing is more advanced since then ... and we do command to locate the distance the other body is down to a fraction of an inch ...

I did find a body on base 2 and base 2 is in the future ...but the spirit is outside this space time continuum ... so there is not time between now and 400 to 700 years in the future ... time is only relative to the creation of this universe .. outside the universe there is no time .. so base 2 can be seen by the spirit as being at the same time outside the universe .. but anywhere between 400 to 1000 years in the future (i have found out more things about the future .. which might be farther into the future than I thought before

so these commands were never used in the Church of Scientology after this lecture was made in march 10 1952 .... trey who is the highest class auditor in the Church of Scientology never knew about or used this auditing before me

jim

johnf
16th June 2013, 20:50
For instance, every once in a while you'll find a preclear who will sit around and listen to advice from somebody. He will. He'll sit around and he'll get inspirations or he'll get something from somebody else or something else, and what he's doing there is about the same equivalent, but much different - a mind-reading act, sort of. He's over on the other side taking tips from what somebody else knows. And he says, "This is inspiration. This is my intuition at work."

And here's some other fellow sitting over someplace, working like mad, working something out and figuring something out. Well, that's where he's getting the data. Now, for instance, you take Kelly and Bessemer. This is a notable example - Kelly and Bessemer. One sat in England and one sat in Kentucky, and they invented - within two days of each other, completed the invention of - a process of making steel. And they call it today the Bessemer process. They might as well call it the Kelly process, because it was invented simultaneously in both places. Same guy.




What's quite remarkable about all of the research in which I have been engaged is it hasn't flashed up anyplace else. And that's remarkable! It has not come up anyplace else on earth. On earth. (laughter)

But this jealousy of identities was such, actually, that in the early days when I was working on this I was experiencing a terrific anxiety. I knew the next five minutes somebody was going to appear on the stands with this first book I wrote on the subject. You see, I knew somebody else knew. I knew somebody else was working on it too. And they were. But not here on earth. Anyway ... (laughter)


simply ask them this question: "Is there somebody else holding your abberations in place?"

It says "Yes" - bang, machine operates.

"Where is this person?" and there'll be a little twitch, and you'll ask him - well, according to continents, Earth, anyplace else, stars, so on.

LRH talks about the 2 people who created steel 2 days apart .. saying they are run by the same spirit being

then he talks about himself .. how he was worried that someone else would write the book before he does .. he was sure that someone else would come up with scientology before him .. meaning another body he is managing ... he talks about the jealousy between the two people being run by the same spirit being ...

well in this lifetime I had no jealousy except one .. and that was LRH ... I was jealous that he could do all that he did and yet I am from the same spirit he is .. but i wasn't here to put scientology here .. I was here to give him the upper levels .. all the way to OT 40 .. that I didn't see on his Gradation Charts ...

then he gives the commands you use to locate the other bodies I am also managing ... but auditing is more advanced since then ... and we do command to locate the distance the other body is down to a fraction of an inch ...

I did find a body on base 2 and base 2 is in the future ...but the spirit is outside this space time continuum ... so there is not time between now and 400 to 700 years in the future ... time is only relative to the creation of this universe .. outside the universe there is no time .. so base 2 can be seen by the spirit as being at the same time outside the universe .. but anywhere between 400 to 1000 years in the future (i have found out more things about the future .. which might be farther into the future than I thought before

so these commands were never used in the Church of Scientology after this lecture was made in march 10 1952 .... trey who is the highest class auditor in the Church of Scientology never knew about or used this auditing before me

jim

I ran into a woman who was trained up pretty high, was around for a long time.
And said she had run into multiple claims about a woman writing a book called Dianetics that was written in the 30's I believe.
The manuscript Scientologie,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anastasius_Nordenholz

is a similar phenomenon, much better known.
I am not sure these folks need to be the same spirit , however it is interesting.

Proceed?

jf

jiminii
17th June 2013, 10:16
How to change your future ... this is part one .. there are more .. these are the important parts of the phoenix lectures

this chapter deals with how the mechanics of this physical universe works

CHAPTER FOUR

CONSIDERATION, MECHANICS AND THE
THEORY BEHIND INSTRUCTION

this chapter talks out this part of the universe that we are viewing into

CHAPTER FIVE

CONSIDERATION AND IS-NESS

jiminii
17th June 2013, 10:17
CHAPTER SIX

IS-NESS

this chapter deals with what we see everyday in the everyday world

jiminii
17th June 2013, 10:24
CHAPTER SEVEN

THE FOUR CONDITIONS OF EXISTENCE

(Part 1)

jiminii
17th June 2013, 10:26
CHAPTER NINE

THE FOUR CONDITIONS OF EXISTENCE

(Part 3)


CHAPTER TEN

THE FOUR CONDITIONS OF EXISTENCE

jiminii
17th June 2013, 10:27
CHAPTER ELEVEN

THE FOUR CONDITIONS OF EXISTENCE

(Part 5)



CHAPTER TWELVE

TIME

jiminii
17th June 2013, 10:44
CHAPTER THIRTEEN

AXIOMS

(Part 1)

The Axioms of Scientology are a list of usable or self evident
truths and are a major part of the technical information of a
Scientologist.


AXIOM ONE: LIFE IS BASICALLY A STATIC.

And what is this static?

Definition: a Life Static has no mass, no motion, no wavelength,
no location in space or in time. It has the ability to postulate
and to perceive.

This is a peculiar and particular static, having these properties
and a further peculiarity, which we find in the next Axiom.

AXIOM TWO: THE STATIC IS CAPABLE OF CONSIDERATIONS, POSTULATES,
AND OPINIONS.


AXIOM THREE: SPACE, ENERGY, OBJECTS, FORM AND TIME ARE THE
RESULT OF CONSIDERATIONS MADE AND/ OR AGREED UPON OR NOT BY THE
STATIC, AND ARE PERCEIVED SOLELY BECAUSE THE STATIC CONSIDERS
THAT IT CAN PERCEIVE THEM.


AXIOM FOUR: SPACE IS A VIEWPOINT OF DIMENSION.


AXIOM FIVE: ENERGY CONSISTS OF POSTULATED PARTICLES IN SPACE.


AXIOM SIX: OBJECTS CONSIST OF GROUPED PARTICLES.


AXIOM SEVEN: TIME IS BASICALLY A POSTULATE THAT SPACE AND
PARTICLES WILL PERSIST.


AXIOM EIGHT: THE APPARENCY OF TIME IS THE CHANGE OF POSITION OF
PARTICLES IN SPACE.


AXIOM NINE: CHANGE IS THE PRIMARY MANIFESTATION OF TIME.


AXIOM TEN: THE HIGHEST PURPOSE IN THE UNIVERSE IS THE CREATION
OF AN EFFECT.


AXIOM ELEVEN: THE CONSIDERATIONS RESULTING IN CONDITIONS OF
EXISTENCE ARE FOURFOLD.

And here they are in exact axiom form:

(a) AS-IS-NESS is the condition of immediate creation without
persistence, and is the condition of existence which
exists at the moment of creation and the moment of
destruction, and is different from other considerations
in that it does not contain survival.

(b) ALTER-IS-NESS is the consideration which introduces change
and therefore time and persistence into an AS-IS-NESS to
obtain persistency.

(c) IS-NESS is an apparency of existence brought about by the
continuous alteration of an AS-IS-NESS. This is called,
when agreed upon, Reality.

(d) NOT-IS-NESS is the effort to handle IS-NESS by reducing its
condition through the use of force. It is an apparency and
cannot entirely vanquish an IS-NESS.


AXIOM TWELVE: THE PRIMARY CONDITION OF ANY UNIVERSE IS THAT TWO
SPACES ENERGIES OR OBJECTS MUST NOT OCCUPY THE SAME SPACE. WHEN
THIS CONDITION IS VIOLATED (PERFECT DUPLICATE) THE APPARENCY OF
ANY UNIVERSE OR ANY PART THEREOF IS NULLED.


AXIOM THIRTEEN: THE CYCLE OF ACTION OF THE PHYSICAL UNIVERSE
IS: CREATE, SURVIVE (PERSIST), DESTROY.


AXIOM FOURTEEN: SURVIVAL IS ACCOMPLISHED BY ALTER-IS-NESS AND
NOT-IS-NESS, BY WHICH IS GAINED THE PERSISTENCY KNOWN AS TIME.


AXIOM FIFTEEN: CREATION IS ACCOMPLISHED BY THE POSTULATION OF
AN AS-IS-NESS.


AXIOM SIXTEEN: COMPLETE DESTRUCTION IS ACCOMPLISHED BY THE
POSTULATION OF THE AS-IS-NESS OF ANY EXISTENCE AND THE PARTS
THEREOF.


AXIOM SEVENTEEN: THE STATIC, HAVING POSTULATED AS-IS-NESS
THEN PRACTICES ALTER-IS-NESS AND SO ACHIEVES THE APPARENCY
OF IS-NESS AND SO OBTAINS REALITY.


AXIOM EIGHTEEN: THE STATIC, IN PRACTICING NOT-IS-NESS, BRINGS
ABOUT THE PERSISTENCE OF UNWANTED EXISTENCES, AND SO BRINGS ABOUT
UNREALITY, WHICH INCLUDES FORGETFULNESS, UNCONSCIOUSNESS, AND
OTHER UNDESIRABLE STATES.


AXIOM NINETEEN: BRINGING THE STATIC TO VIEW AS-IS ANY CONDITION
DEVALUATES THAT CONDITION.


AXIOM TWENTY: BRINGING THE STATIC TO CREATE A

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PERFECT DUPLICATE CAUSES THE VANISHMENT OF ANY EXISTENCE OR
PART THEREOF.


AXIOM TWENTY-ONE: UNDERSTANDING IS COMPOSED OF AFFINITY, REALITY
AND COMMUNICATION.


AXIOM TWENTY-TWO: THE PRACTICE OF NOT-IS-NESS REDUCES
UNDERSTANDING.


AXIOM TWENTY-THREE: THE STATIC HAS THE CAPABILITY OF TOTAL
KNOWINGNESS. TOTAL KNOWINGNESS WOULD CONSIST OF TOTAL ARC.


AXIOM TWENTY-FOUR: TOTAL ARC WOULD BRING ABOUT THE VANISHMENT
OF ALL MECHANICAL CONDITIONS OF EXISTENCE.


AXIOM TWENTY-FIVE: AFFINITY IS A SCALE OF ATTITUDES WHICH FALLS
AWAY FROM THE CO-EXISTENCE OF STATIC, THROUGH THE INTERPOSITIONS
OF DISTANCE AND ENERGY, TO CREATE IDENTITY, DOWN TO CLOSE PROXIMITY
BUT MYSTERY.

jiminii
17th June 2013, 10:44
CHAPTER FIFTEEN

AXIOMS


AXIOM TWENTY-SIX: REALITY IS THE AGREED UPON APPARENCY OF
EXISTENCE.


AXIOM TWENTY-SEVEN: AN ACTUALITY CAN EXIST FOR ONE INDIVIDUALLY,
BUT WHEN IT IS AGREED WITH BY OTHERS IT CAN BE SAID TO BE A
REALITY.


AXIOM TWENTY-EIGHT: COMMUNICATION IS THE CONSIDERATION AND
ACTION OF IMPELLING AN IMPULSE OR PARTICLE FROM SOURCE-POINT ACROSS
A DISTANCE TO RECEIPT-POINT, WITH THE INTENTION OF BRINGING INTO
BEING AT THE RECEIPT-POINT A DUPLICATION OF THAT WHICH EMANATED
FROM THE SOURCE-POINT.


AXIOM TWENTY-NINE: IN ORDER TO CAUSE AS-IS-NESS TO PERSIST,
ONE MUST ASSIGN OTHER AUTHORSHIP TO THE CREATION THAN HIS OWN.
OTHERWISE, HIS VIEW OF IT WOULD CAUSE ITS VANISHMENT. Any
space, energy, form, object, individual, or physical universe
condition can exist only when an alteration has occurrred of
the original As-is-ness so as to prevent a casual view from
vanishing it. In other words, anything which is persisting must
contain a "lie" so that the original consideration is not
completely duplicated.

If Joe created something and then said "Bill made it," that's a
lie, so he gets persistence stemming out of a second postulate,
the lie.

AXIOM THIRTY: THE GENERAL RULE OF AUDITING IS THAT ANYTHING
WHICH IS UNWANTED AND YET PERSISTS MUST BE THOROUGHLY VIEWED, AT
WHICH TIME IT WILL VANISH. If only partially viewed, its
intensity, at least, will decrease.

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AXIOM THIRTY-ONE: GOODNESS AND BADNESS, BEAUTIFULNESS AND
UGLINESS, ARE ALIKE CONSIDERATIONS AND HAVE NO OTHER BASIS THAN
OPINION.

AXIOM THIRTY-TWO: ANYTHING WHICH IS NOT DIRECTLY OBSERVED
TENDS TO PERSIST.


AXIOM THIRTY-THREE: ANY AS-IS-NESS WHICH IS ALTERED BY NOT-IS-NESS
(BY FORCE) TENDS TO PERSIST.

AXIOM THIRTY-FOUR: ANY IS-NESS, WHEN ALTERED BY FORCE TENDS TO
PERSIST.

AXIOM THIRTY-FIVE: THE ULTIMATE TRUTH IS A STATIC.

A Static has no mass, meaning, mobility, no wavelength, no
time, no location in space, no space.

This has the technical name of "Basic Truth".

AXIOM THIRTY-SIX: A LIE IS A SECOND POSTULATE, STATEMENT OR
CONDITION DESIGNED TO MASK A PRIMARY POSTULATE WHICH IS PERMITTED
TO REMAIN.


AXIOM THIRTY-SEVEN: WHEN A PRIMARY CONSIDERATION IS ALTERED
BUT STILL EXISTS, PERSISTENCE IS ACHIEVED FOR THE ALTERING
CONSIDERATION.



AXIOM THIRTY-EIGHT:

1: STUPIDITY IS THE UNKNOWNESS OF CONSIDERATION.

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2: MECHANICAL DEFINITION: STUPIDITY IS THE UNKNOWNESS OF TIME,
PLACE, FORM, AND EVENT.

He knows something happened, but he doesn't know what happened.
He can't add it up. He can't do anything with it. We call that
stupidity.

1: TRUTH IS THE EXACT CONSIDERATION.

2: TRUTH IS THE EXACT TIME, PLACE FORM, AND EVENT.

Thus we see that failure to discover Truth brings about
stupidity.

Thus we see that the discovery of Truth would bring about an
As-is-ness by actual experiment.

Thus we see that an ultimate truth would have no time, place,
form or event.

Thus, then, we perceive that we can achieve a persistence only
when we mask a truth.

Lying is an alteration of Time, Place, Event, or Form.

Lying becomes Alter-is-ness, becomes Stupidity.

(The Blackness of cases is an accumulation of the case's own or
another lies.)

Anything which persists must avoid As-is-ness. Thus,
anything, to persist, must contain a lie.



CHAPTER SIXTEEN

AXIOMS


AXIOM THIRTY-NINE: LIFE POSES PROBLEMS FOR ITS OWN SOLUTION.


AXIOM FORTY: ANY PROBLEM, TO BE A PROBLEM, MUST CONTAIN A LIE.
IF IT WERE TRUTH, IT WOULD UNMOCK.


AXIOM FORTY-ONE: THAT INTO WHICH ALTER-IS-NESS IS INTRODUCED
BECOMES A PROBLEM.


AXIOM FORTY-TWO: MEST (MATTER, ENERGY, SPACE, TIME) PERSISTS
BECAUSE IT IS A PROBLEM.


AXIOM FORTY-THREE: TIME IS THE PRIMARY SOURCE OF UNTRUTH.


AXIOM FORTY-FOUR: THETA (THE STATIC) HAS NO LOCATION IN MATTER,
ENERGY, SPACE, OR TIME. IT IS CAPABLE OF CONSIDERATION.


AXIOM FORTY-FIVE: THETA CAN CONSIDER ITSELF TO BE PLACED, AT
WHICH MOMENT IT BECOMES PLACED, AND TO THAT DEGREE A PROBLEM.


AXIOM FORTY-SIX: THETA CAN BECOME A PROBLEM BY ITS CONSIDERATIONS
BUT THEN BECOMES MEST.


AXIOM FORTY-SEVEN: THETA CAN RESOLVE PROBLEMS.

AXIOM FORTY-EIGHT: LIFE IS A GAME WHEREIN THETA AS THE STATIC
SOLVES THE PROBLEMS OF THETA AS MEST.


AXIOM FORTY-NINE: TO SOLVE ANY PROBLEM IT IS ONLY NECESSARY TO
BECOME THETA, THE SOLVER, RATHER THAN THETA, THE PROBLEM.


AXIOM FIFTY: THETA AS MEST MUST CONTAIN CONSIDERATIONS WHICH ARE
LIES.

jiminii
17th June 2013, 10:48
GLOSSARY

ACCEPTANCE LEVEL: The degree of a person's actual willingness
to accept people or things, monitored and determined by his
consideration of the state or condition that those people or
things must be in for him to be able to do so.

ANATEN: An abbreviation of "analytical attenuation", meaning
a diminution or weakening of the analytical awareness of an
individual for a brief or extensive period of time. If sufficiently
great, it can result in unconsciousness. It stems from the
restimulation of an engram, which contains pain and
unconsciousness.

A-R-C, PRINCIPLE OF: The "A-R-C triangle" is Affinity,
Reality and Communication. The basic principle here is that as
one raises or lowers any of the three corners of this triangle,
the others are raised or lowered, and that the key entrance point
to these is Communication. Understanding is composed of A-R-C.

AUDITING: The application of Scientology processes and
procedures to someone by a trained auditor. The exact definition
of auditing is: The action of asking a preclear a question (which
he can understand and answer), getting an answer to that
question and acknowledging him for that answer.

AUDITOR: Trained Scientologist. Means "one who listens" and
is a person who applies Scientology

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auditing technology to individuals for their betterment.

THE AUDITOR'S HANDBOOK: This was the manual current at the
time of the Phoenix Lectures which contained the Axioms
and the Route One and Route Two processes of Intensive
Procedure. It forms the basis of and is wholly included in The
Creation of Human Ability by L. Ron Hubbard, with a great deal
of additional material. The Creation of Human Ability is a major
text and is available from all Hubbard Scientology Organization
bookstores. See book list and organization address list in back
of this book.

BANK: A colloquial name for the Reactive Mind.

BETWEEN-LIVES AREA: The experiences of a thetan during
the period of time between the loss of a body and assumption
of another. Given in A History of Man by L. Ron Hubbard (see
book list). "BLACK V": A heavily occluded case characterized
by mental pictures consisting of masses of blackness. This is
a "Step V" in early procedures much as Standard Operating
Procedure 8.

CHART OF ATTITUDES: A chart on which in 1951 L. Ron Hubbard
plotted with the numerical values of the Emotional Tone
Scale the gradient of attitudes that fall between the highest
and lowest states of consideration about life. Example: top -
CAUSE: bottom - FULL EFFECT.

CIRCUIT: A part of an individual's bank that behaves as though
it were someone or something separate from him and either
dictates or takes over his actions. Circuits are the result
of engramic commands. COMMUNICATION FORMULA: Communication

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is the interchange of ideas or objects between two people
or terminals. The Formula of Communication and its precise
definition is: Cause, Distance, Effect with Intention and
Attention and a duplication at Effect of what emanates from
Cause. (The ability to communicate is the key to success in
life; therefore, this definition should be studied thoroughly
and understood. Read Dianetics 55! by L. Ron Hubbard for a full
practical treatise of communication. See Scientology Book List
following.)

COMM LAG, AND "COMM LAG IS FLAT": Comm Lag is Communication
Lag: The time it takes for a preclear to give an answer to
the exact auditing question or to carry out the exact
auditing command. "Flat Comm Lag" is the point at which the
auditing question or command is no longer producing change
of communication lag.

CYCLE OF ACTION: The creation, growth, conservation, decay
and death or destruction of energy and matter in a space.
Cycles of Action produce time.

DIANETICS: Means through thought, or mind. Dianetics is
Man's most advanced school of the mind, and is that branch
of Scientology which treats of mental anatomy.

DIANETIC RELEASE: One who in Dianetic auditing has attained
good case gains and stability, and can enjoy life. Such a
person is "keyed-out" or in other words released from the
stimulus-response mechanisms of the reactive mind.

DRAMATIZATION: Thinking or acting in a manner that is dictated
by masses or significances contained in the Reactive Mind.
When dramatizing,

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the individual is like an actor playing his dictated part and
going through a whole series of irrational actions.

DYNAMIC: The urge, thrust and purpose of life - SURVIVE! -
in its eight manifestations.

THE FIRST DYNAMIC is the urge toward survival of self.

THE SECOND DYNAMIC is the urge toward survival through
sex, or children. This dynamic actually has two divisions. Second
Dynamic (a) is the sexual act itself and Second Dynamic (b) is
the family unit, including the rearing of children.

THE THIRD DYNAMIC is the urge toward survival through a group
of individuals or as a group. Any group or part of an entire
class could be considered to be a part of the Third Dynamic. The
school, the club, the team, the town, the nation are examples of
groups.

THE FOURTH DYNAMIC is the urge toward survival through
all mankind as all mankind.

THE FIFTH DYNAMIC is the urge toward survival through
life forms such as animals, birds, insects, fish and vegetation,
and is the urge to survive as these.

THE SIXTH DYNAMIC is the urge toward survival as the
physical universe and has as its components Matter, Energy,
Space and Time, from which we derive the word MEST.

THE SEVENTH DYNAMIC is the urge toward survival through
spirits or as a spirit. Anything spiritual, with or without
identity, would come under the Seventh Dynamic. A sub-heading
of this Dynamic is ideas and concepts such as beauty, and the
desire to survive through these.

THE EIGHTH DYNAMIC is the urge toward survival through
a Supreme Being, or more exactly, Infinity. This is called the
Eighth Dynamic because the symbol of Infinity stood upright
makes the numeral "8".

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8D: Standard Operating Procedure 8D (1954). Primarily for heavy
cases, the goal of this procedure was "to bring the preclear
to tolerate any viewpoint". See The Creation of Human Ability
by L. Ron Hubbard.

EMOTIONAL TONE SCALE: See TONE SCALE.

ENGRAM: A mental image picture of an experience containing pain,
unconsciousness, and a real or fancied threat to survival; it
is a recording in the reactive mind of something which actually
happened to an individual in the past and which contained pain
and unconsciousness, both of which are recorded in the mental
image picture called an engram.

ENGRAM BANK: A colloquial name for the reactive mind.
That portion of a person's mind which works on a
stimulus-response basis.

EXTERIORIZATION: The state of the thetan being outside his
body. When this is done, the person achieves a certainty that
he is himself and not his body.

FACSIMILE: A mental image picture.

FACSIMILE BANK: Mental image pictures; the contents of
reactive mind; colloquially, "bank".

FEAR MERCHANTS: The aberrative personality. This was an early
description of what is known as a Suppressive Person, or the
Anti-Social Personality.

FILE CLERK: Dianetic auditor's slang for the mechanism of the
mind which acts as a data monitor. Auditors could get instant or
"flash" answers direct from the "file clerk" to aid in contacting
incidents.

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G.E. (GENETIC ENTITY): A composite of all the cellular
experience recorded along the genetic line of the organism to
the present body. It has the manifestation of a single identity.
It is not the theta being or "I".

"GLEE OF INSANITY": Also called the "glee of irresponsibility".
Manifestation which takes the form of an actual wave
emanation resulting basically from an individual dramatizing
the condition of "Must Reach - Can't Reach, Must Withdraw -
Can't Withdraw".

GRAND TOUR: The process R1-9 in The Creation of Human
Ability by L. Ron Hubbard.

GROUP AUDITOR'S HANDBOOK: This was a 1954 compilation of
group auditing sessions resulting from the Advanced Clinical
Courses of that year.

INTENSIVE PROCEDURE: The Standard Operating Procedure,
1954, given in THE CREATION OF HUMAN ABILITY by L. Ron Hubbard.

KEY IN (verb): An earlier moment of upset or painful experience
is activated, restimulated, by the similarity of a later
situation, action or environment to the earlier one.

KEY-OUT: Release or separation from one's reactive mind or
some portion of it.

KNOW-TO-MYSTERY SCALE: The scale of Affinity from KNOWINGNESS
down through LOOKINGNESS, EMOTINGNESS, EFFORTINGNESS,
THINKINGNESS, SYMBOLIZINGNESS, EATINGNESS, SEXINGNESS, and
so through to not-Knowingness - MYSTERY. The KNOW-TO-SEX
SCALE was the earlier version of this scale.

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LOOK, SECONDARY, ENGRAM: A lock is a mental image picture of
a non-painful but disturbing experience the person has
experienced and which depends for its force on an earlier
secondary and engram which the experience has restimulated. A
secondary is a mental image picture containing misemotion -
encysted grief, anger, apathy, etc., and a real or imagined loss.
These contain no physical pain - they are moments of shock and
stress depending for their force on earlier engrams which have
been restimulated by the circumstances of the secondary. An
engram is a mental image picture of an experience containing
pain, unconsciousness, and a real or fancied threat to survival.

MEST UNIVERSE: The physical universe, from the initial
letters of matter, energy, space, time.

MOCK-UP: A mental model, construction or picture created by a
thetan. A mock-up is distinct from a facsimile in that it is
created volitionally, does not necessarily copy any previous
experience, and is under the control of the thetan.

"1.5": Numerical equivalent on the CHART OF HUMAN EVALUATION
for the person who is in Overt Hostility. Anger is his standard
state. He is capable of taking destructive action and is
characteristically trying to stop things.

OVERT ACT: A harmful or contra-survival action against one or
more dynamics.

OVERT ACT-MOTIVATOR SEQUENCE: Overt-motivator sequence: The
sequence wherein someone who has committed an overt has to
claim the existence

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of "motivators". The motivators are then likely to be used to
justify committing further overt acts.

PRECLEAR: A person who through Scientology processing is
finding out more about himself and life.

PROCEDURE 30: The special auditing procedure of which Opening
Procedure by Duplication (R2-17 Creation of Human Ability is
the first step.

PROCESS: A set of questions asked by an auditor to help a person
find out things about himself or life. More fully, a process
is a patterned action, done by the auditor and preclear under
the auditor's direction, which is invariable and unchanging,
composed of certain steps or actions calculated to release or free
a thetan. There are many processes and these are aligned with the
levels taught to students and with grades as applied to preclears,
all of which lead the student or the preclear gradiently to higher
understanding and awareness. Any single process is run only so
long as it produces change and no longer.

PROCESSING: That action or actions of an auditor, governed
by the technical disciplines and codes of Scientology, of
administering a process to a preclear in order to release or
free him.

"PROCESS IS FLAT": A process is continued as long as it
produces change and no longer, at which time the process is
"flat".

Q AND A: From "Question and Answer". This term originally referred
to the fact that the answer to the question is the question.
Q and A has been used as the term for "changing when the preclear
changes", and refers in Chapter Twenty-four on page 291, to
the preclear duplicating the beingness of the auditor.

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REACTIVE MIND: That portion of a person's mind which works
on a stimulus-response basis, is not under his volitional
control and exerts force and the power of command over his
awareness, purposes, thoughts, body and actions.

REPEATER TECHNIQUE: This refers to the Dianetic technique
using repetition by the preclear of a word or phrase in order
to produce movement on the time track into an engram containing
that word or phrase.

RIDGES: Solid accumulations of old, inactive mental energy
suspended in space and time.

R2-40: Route Two, Process Number 40, Conceive A Static. See
THE CREATION OF HUMAN ABILITY by L. Ron Hubbard.

SOMATICS: Perceptions, stemming from the Reactive Bank, of
past physical pain or discomfort, restimulated in present time.

SONIC: The ability to recall a sound so that one can hear
it again as he originally heard it - in full tone and volume.

SOP: Standard Operating Procedure.

STRAIGHT WIRE: Direct memory processes, or a class of
processes found in both Dianetic and Scientology auditing
procedures.

THETA CLEAR: An individual who, as a being, is certain of his
identity apart from that of the body, and who habitually operates
the body from outside, or exteriorized.

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THETAN: From Theta, the Static. Word taken from Greek letter
(-), theta, traditional symbol for thought or spirit. The thetan
is the individual himself - not body, mind or anything else;
that which is aware of being aware; the identity that IS the
individual.

TONE SCALE: A scale measuring and relating the various
factors of behavior, emotion and thought to levcls on the scale.
(The book, Science of Survival, by L. Ron Hubbard contains a
full description of the tone scale and its applications in life.)

VALENCE: The assumption by an individual of a beingness
other than his own.

VISIO: The ability to see in facsimile form something one
has seen earlier so that one sees it again in the same color,
dimension scale, brightness and detail as it was originally
viewed.

L. RON HUBBARD

jiminii
17th June 2013, 13:16
Thetans think of themselves as being in the MEST universe
(MEST universe: the physical universe, from the initial letters of
matter, energy, space, time). Of course, this is a joke, too. As
the Static they can't possibly be in a universe.


this is from axiom 2 .. the Thetan is not in the physical universe ...

jim

jiminii
17th June 2013, 13:52
AXIOM THREE: SPACE, ENERGY, OBJECTS, FORM AND TIME ARE THE
RESULT OF CONSIDERATIONS MADE AND/ OR AGREED UPON OR NOT BY THE
STATIC, AND ARE PERCEIVED SOLELY BECAUSE THE STATIC CONSIDERS
THAT IT CAN PERCEIVE THEM.

The whole secret of perception is right there. Do you believe
that you can see? Well, all right, go ahead and believe that you
can see but you'd certainly better believe that there's something
there to see or you won't see. So there are two considerations to
sight, and they are covered immediately here in that you have to
believe there is something to see and then that you can see it.
And so you have perception. All of the tremendous number of
categories to perception come under this heading, and are
covered by that Axiom. So that Axiom should be known very, very
well.

So this comes from the phoenix lectures ... we are a thetan .. but we are not in the Physical MEST universe .. but we are creating it from the static in agreement with everyone else that is operating in this universe.

So this one about me having other bodies was missed ... and when Trey audited me to find out when I came into this body ... I found out who I am and then found inelia next right after that ... and I then knew that we both came out of a static .. source .. which is practically the same thing ... she calls it source ... then I found my other bodies .. and then I found the millions that were created out of source that were sent here when I was being audited by trey

I found another Natural Clear in this website .. and he had the same trouble as I did .. trying to date when it happened ... but it became clear when we took it to the future ...

I didn't get the future idea until I listened to alex collier on radio september 2012 ... everything opened up ... could get a date ... and even then ... it took a couple months ... before I really got it ...

I got it when I put it together with LRH ... look at the time track of theta tapes ... do you think he is doing it ALL by himself ???? ... NO .. there are MORE OF ME .. in the future in a much faster speed of operation than the speed this planet operates at ... so in between sessions we have plenty of time to evaluate what was going on with these people PCs preclears LRH was auditing ...

it is really an amazing game ... and all the predictions don't happen ,.... did you ever wonder why????

just look at this Project Avalon .... all these people picking up what's going on around the world .. and we are VIEWING their POSTULATES .. to make HELL .. and by us LOOKING at the POSTULATES the SECOND TIME ... we are NULLIFYING their postulates ... so they don't happen

that is how much power there is on this website and others around the world

jim

CD7
17th June 2013, 13:58
As I carouse this site and others similar to it....getting bits and pieces....

it seems as though some of the "rituals"/ processes put forth here from scientology, RLH, other people, remind me of mental health strategies (there just using different words-different programs)

Ya know, removing programs from childhood, implanting new ones. Also some of the revelations from scientology can be learned through other processes like meditation, reiki, spirituality etc...

For example...like coming to the realization -you are not just the body--many people come to this realization through different means. So I suppose these processes from scientology is considered another avenue?

The glossary my god man! Its like someone took science, religion, paranormal, spirituality, philosophy threw them all in a blender and WA LAAA scientology...

I confess I have not delved into scientology, only pieces....However the idea tht humanity consistently gets these meme, beliefs, rituals throughout the ages --never stops---Always saying certain things in a certain language, using certain words, glossaries, vocabularies, programs tht ALL seem to cris cross within each other ---IF someone were to really look deep underneath---

It always tugs at me--- IT IS ALL MUCH SIMPLER THEN THIS--- The-real does not require pages and pages of instruction---ITS HERE ITS ALREADY HERE its just covered up with SO MUCH MUCK tht no one can see it.

jiminii
17th June 2013, 14:07
yes it is true ... WE KNOW ... but we have been filled with so much garbage from the implants .. when they trapped us and put us here ... the garbage (lies) keeps us from knowing the truth ... so when we SEE TRUTH .. we can RECOGNIZE IT very easily

jim

CD7
17th June 2013, 14:18
yes it is true ... WE KNOW ... but we have been filled with so much garbage from the implants .. when they trapped us and put us here ... the garbage (lies) keeps us from knowing the truth ... so when we SEE TRUTH .. we can RECOGNIZE IT very easily

jim


I use language because its a tool I have to use...but honestly I think LANGUAGE is apart of the garbage

jiminii
17th June 2013, 15:54
Planet of a Flower and
Look into the (K)night

there is a planet shades of a flower
and the flower's holding sweet scents of spring
and a breath of life in the morning's hour
and in evenings mist colors fill the sea
and peace seals the night in the stars tasty showers
planet of a flower

in a ruined shake is an old time miller
and he thinks of times he used the seed
but the times have past for his friend the tiller
and his work is done never to return
and he fades away deep in thoughts for his lover
planet of a flower

kisses touch the old and lonely
bringing dreams of distant land
some will seek and some will follow
by the sea side waves that tower
planet of a flower

now the planets secret lies in its keeper
and the keepers heart is pure as gold
and in space of mind brings on the reaper
who shares his seed with his friendly smile
and the planet lost in time
sings of a flower

google mij yodeling astrologer ... it will reveal my name but bill also has his name stuck out here in the world ... so why not
google jim holmberg .... and look at the wikipedia review of my album done in 1969 in 3 hours with one 12 string guitar ... wish they would have given me more time to make it better ... but the sound effects that came out of it from my own idea of looping tape recorder tracks made the sounds quite awesome and they didn't want to change it

jim




Grok The Martian Love Call


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o83WPmLTtR0


Look into the (K)night

here is the last song .. that I created the miracle effect I wanted to do that I did accidentally in a hollywood studio


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-hp7-Gdegk[/url]

I did my music in New York City
then I want to Hollywood California to try to promote the music

it was in Hollywood that I was introduced to a Buddhist Chant

and stopped the rain between 2 traffic signals a block apart on Hollywood Blvd ...

I was angry from this chant ... It didn't make sense .. couldn't see how a chant can create this.

So I realized it always happened when I was thinking nothing

so I did it again with NO CHANT .. and then think NOTHING
and it happened again and again and again and again

jim

CD7
17th June 2013, 17:32
Many different flowers all are we
Designed to grow as tall as the trees
This reality we have yet seen
Because we think its only a dream
The garden is within our reach
If we cultivate the seed at the center of our speech :-)

jiminii
17th June 2013, 18:06
Many different flowers all are we
Designed to grow as tall as the trees
This reality we have yet seen
Because we think its only a dream
The garden is within our reach
If we cultivate the seed at the center of our speech :-)

yeah ,... hahahaha

I put a lot of the Phoenix lectures here ,... talks about how this place was created and tells you how to make your thoughts work
these were the lectures I practiced with when I want back to Utah and played with the weather ...
the thing is ... the postulates keep happening ...

I stopped doing weather for awhile .. I am in Asia ... so I already saw what damage I could do if I don't work the postulates right ...
but I don't see anyone thanking me for putting the lectures up ... without them I would have gotten into more trouble with thoughts happening all the time

after the rain stopped between the 2 traffic lights on Hollywood Blvd ... my thoughts started happening one after another ... but this included any negative thoughts too

I had one that kept bothering me ... it was flat tires ... I would get the thought and I would try to go back to the moment of the thoughts creation and make it disappear ... but it would stick and couldn't get rid of it ...
and boom ..flat tire ... then maybe 6 months later I get that thought again .... couldn't get rid of it ... and boom another flat tire ...

so somehow I managed to get rid of it ... didn't have any training on auditing to be able to locate it and an e-meter costs 5000 .. and trying to make money postulates for me was not easy ... too close to me and would put me in an effort ... which creates counter effort ... same like trying to get a girlfriend ... oh you can pull them in .. but after they arrive ???? wow .. you have to be able to handle all those mechanics in high speed .. or .. they'll be gone ..

so each person has abilities to do postulates in the area they are good at ... depends on each person ... which makes the whole thing more complicated ... you have to be able to handle all these different postulates but ... for an all powerful spirit .... ????? put him on a planet like this where you shrink his space down so small and have him try to get small things ???? is nearly impossible ,.. up in the stars ... ??? with all that vast space ... his power is shining ... and can put stuff up there instantly ... doesn't have a body he is in running all this energies in reverse vectors .... so ... it is a bit tougher to play ...

what really makes it a game is this ...since we don't have so much surety at getting things we want that are closer to us ... we tend to think we can't do the bigger things ... well .. you people on this website are doing it .... without knowing you are doing it ... we are getting the information out with our postulates and these Elite ... with all their trillions ,. and all their resources and all their government control HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO TAKE IT ... and the funny thing is they are getting caught now .. so they can't play it anymore .... they will lose it all playing it now ... so that makes the few powerful spirit beings that are making it happen very valuable .. and they might not even know who they are ...

I love it ...

I am beginning to find them now

jim

jiminii
17th June 2013, 18:18
Many different flowers all are we
Designed to grow as tall as the trees
This reality we have yet seen
Because we think its only a dream
The garden is within our reach
If we cultivate the seed at the center of our speech :-)

yeah ,... hahahaha

I put a lot of the Phoenix lectures here ,... talks about how this place was created and tells you how to make your thoughts work
these were the lectures I practiced with when I want back to Utah and played with the weather ...
the thing is ... the postulates keep happening ...

I stopped doing weather for awhile .. I am in Asia ... so I already saw what damage I could do if I don't work the postulates right ...
but I don't see anyone thanking me for putting the lectures up ... without them I would have gotten into more trouble with thoughts happening all the time

after the rain stopped between the 2 traffic lights on Hollywood Blvd ... my thoughts started happening one after another ... but this included any negative thoughts too

I had one that kept bothering me ... it was flat tires ... I would get the thought and I would try to go back to the moment of the thoughts creation and make it disappear ... but it would stick and couldn't get rid of it ...
and boom ..flat tire ... then maybe 6 months later I get that thought again .... couldn't get rid of it ... and boom another flat tire ...

so somehow I managed to get rid of it ... didn't have any training on auditing to be able to locate it and an e-meter costs 5000 .. and trying to make money postulates for me was not easy ... too close to me and would put me in an effort ... which creates counter effort ... same like trying to get a girlfriend ... oh you can pull them in .. but after they arrive ???? wow .. you have to be able to handle all those mechanics in high speed .. or .. they'll be gone ..

so each person has abilities to do postulates in the area they are good at ... depends on each person ... which makes the whole thing more complicated ... you have to be able to handle all these different postulates but ... for an all powerful spirit .... ????? put him on a planet like this where you shrink his space down so small and have him try to get small things ???? is nearly impossible ,.. up in the stars ... ??? with all that vast space ... his power is shining ... and can put stuff up there instantly ... doesn't have a body he is in running all this energies in reverse vectors .... so ... it is a bit tougher to play ...

what really makes it a game is this ...since we don't have so much surety at getting things we want that are closer to us ... we tend to think we can't do the bigger things ... well .. you people on this website are doing it .... without knowing you are doing it ... we are getting the information out with our postulates and these Elite ... with all their trillions ,. and all their resources and all their government control HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO TAKE IT ... and the funny thing is they are getting caught now .. so they can't play it anymore .... they will lose it all playing it now ... so that makes the few powerful spirit beings that are making it happen very valuable .. and they might not even know who they are ...

I love it ...

I am beginning to find them now

jim

one more thing ... is this ... the space a person has around him is so solid it can stop bullets or even bombs from killing him and like this girl where an airplane got struck by lightning and broke apart survived a 10,000 foot drop in brazil ....

this space does more than that too ... by confronting all this garbage the elite puts out also puts up all the blocks for them too ... and they are as solid as steel ... we are with our space alone keeping them from doing anything they want ...... and you might think ... "they are getting what they want" .. no they are not .... if they were going to get what they wanted they would have done it years ago

so we are keeping the planet safe

jim

eaglespirit
17th June 2013, 19:04
As I carouse this site and others similar to it....getting bits and pieces....

it seems as though some of the "rituals"/ processes put forth here from scientology, RLH, other people, remind me of mental health strategies (there just using different words-different programs)

Ya know, removing programs from childhood, implanting new ones. Also some of the revelations from scientology can be learned through other processes like meditation, reiki, spirituality etc...

For example...like coming to the realization -you are not just the body--many people come to this realization through different means. So I suppose these processes from scientology is considered another avenue?

The glossary my god man! Its like someone took science, religion, paranormal, spirituality, philosophy threw them all in a blender and WA LAAA scientology...

I confess I have not delved into scientology, only pieces....However the idea tht humanity consistently gets these meme, beliefs, rituals throughout the ages --never stops---Always saying certain things in a certain language, using certain words, glossaries, vocabularies, programs tht ALL seem to cris cross within each other ---IF someone were to really look deep underneath---

It always tugs at me--- IT IS ALL MUCH SIMPLER THEN THIS--- The-real does not require pages and pages of instruction---ITS HERE ITS ALREADY HERE its just covered up with SO MUCH MUCK tht no one can see it.

...and THAT is the gist of the matter that we are upon now...
up-on-spirit, as no other time/non-time, imho CD7 : )
Critical mass has duly and truly occurred...the metamorphosis has taken hold!

I could be nothing but sincerely and overwhelmingly grateful for that happening on that Nipmuc Indian Hill in 2007...for I simply profoundly was given a gift of a higher crash course along these rhythms. Yes, my Son's passing a few years prior put me on target to work towards and then accept this gift...all spiritual doors were opened by my intent, I found it was delivered so that I may deliver the message to all that were opening to it in front of me, real personal experience to help Others heighten Their Own real personal experiences now.
Three mornings of sincere and intense sunrise meditation, vibration gone sky high, experiencing things that were beyond my 3d comprehension on that hill, seeing and sensing and experiencing other worldly things right here, a shamanic death and rebirth, a full recap of personal inventory, Danny's Spirit speaking to me for 2 days as though He was right there with me, being a spiritual conduit of balance and cleansing and connection helping all of this 'correction' now taking place...just listening and doing without question or doubt after I got over the questioning and doubting real quick as there were too many wonderful higher spiritual synchronicities and anomalies occurring back to back to back...gaining a knowing that Anyone could experience these things in Their Own Ways by simply consciously decisively opening up to it and having a higher intention...whatever that may be personally.

Thank You again Jiminii an CD7 and All here a Avalon!

jiminii
18th June 2013, 01:15
yes ... there is about a million or more spirits created right out of source like me from Metteyya .. and there are I don't know how many millions from Gaia and other big spirit beings ... but here is the thing. whether they are aware or awake does not matter ... they are connected to those who are ... and this gives us a hidden army .. so vast in power it is beyond anyone's imagination or understanding ,.. so we have a very important responsibility ... to keep everything we are positive ... don't think is small "there is only one of me" thinking .... there isn't ... we are all doing this ....

when I first joined the Sea Org ... of scientology things were not right ... and the future would prove it .. it was taken over ... the largest number of people joined at that time I joined in 1971 and when I left ... those same numbers left too .... it was totally amazing ...

we were only there a month .... then gone ... I have no idea what effects we left with so many coming in and leaving at the same time ... but I KNEW those people were with me ... and when I left they left too ...

so this is all our responsibility .... we are the aware ones ,... so we can pass that awareness on to all those we are connected whether we know we are doing it or not ,.. this is a fact ..

so if your only think as JUST being an individual ... then you are power of ONE .... but that is poor responsibility ,.. you may not KNOW all those who are with you on your path ,,, being guided by your awakening ,... so it is better to think as a we ... and that we is in the millions .. and it is enough to change everything ,,,

may the force be with you

jim

jiminii
18th June 2013, 04:24
yes ... there is about a million or more spirits created right out of source like me from Metteyya .. and there are I don't know how many millions from Gaia and other big spirit beings ... but here is the thing. whether they are aware or awake does not matter ... they are connected to those who are ... and this gives us a hidden army .. so vast in power it is beyond anyone's imagination or understanding ,.. so we have a very important responsibility ... to keep everything we are positive ... don't think is small "there is only one of me" thinking .... there isn't ... we are all doing this ....

when I first joined the Sea Org ... of scientology things were not right ... and the future would prove it .. it was taken over ... the largest number of people joined at that time I joined in 1971 and when I left ... those same numbers left too .... it was totally amazing ...

we were only there a month .... then gone ... I have no idea what effects we left with so many coming in and leaving at the same time ... but I KNEW those people were with me ... and when I left they left too ...

so this is all our responsibility .... we are the aware ones ,... so we can pass that awareness on to all those we are connected whether we know we are doing it or not ,.. this is a fact ..

so if your only think as JUST being an individual ... then you are power of ONE .... but that is poor responsibility ,.. you may not KNOW all those who are with you on your path ,,, being guided by your awakening ,... so it is better to think as a we ... and that we is in the millions .. and it is enough to change everything ,,,

may the force be with you

jim

here is a better explanation

when LRH died at 37 for 6 minutes ... and was somewhere in the between lives area ... he said ... "what I really noticed there .. was HOW MUCH GAME THERE WAS" ....

each of you REALLY don't know HOW MUCH OF THIS GAME you are playing ...

you're here on this website ... and that is saying something by itself ...

jim

jiminii
19th June 2013, 14:25
links to jiminiis past post

this is LRH L Ron Hubbard thread

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59041-LRH--L.-Ron-Hubbard-

this is the murder of LRH Thread

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59227-the-murder-of-LRH

this is the miracle of L Ron Hubbards Technology the end phenomenon

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59176-THE-MIRACLE-OF-L-RON-HUBBARD-S-TECHNOLOGY-the-end-phenomenon-that-occurred

this is the new civaliztion game

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59550-The-New-Civilization-Game-by-Jiminii-and-Cathy-from-Base-2/page4

this is word population

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59736-World-population-question

this is how to win it all

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59992-How-to-win-it-all

this is why dianetecs is not for me

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59506-Bill-Why-Dianetics-is-Not-For-Me

this is seeds that can save your life

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?60101-Seeds-that-can-save-your-life

links to jiminiis future posts

this is the first sin was making this stuff important

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?60201-The-First-Sin-Was-Making-This-Stuff-Important

this is where you can download the phoenix lectures . how this universe was built and how to make your thoughts work to change your future ..

and the technical dictionary

this is where the links to all my threads are

jim

CD7
19th June 2013, 16:24
which creates counter effort ... same like trying to get a girlfriend ... oh you can pull them in .. but after they arrive ???? wow .. you have to be able to handle all those mechanics in high speed .. or .. they'll be gone ..

not meaning to derail BUT couldn't resist this one....being a girl :) BECAUSE the same mechanics used to reel them in ENDS after they arrive ;)

jiminii
19th June 2013, 16:49
which creates counter effort ... same like trying to get a girlfriend ... oh you can pull them in .. but after they arrive ???? wow .. you have to be able to handle all those mechanics in high speed .. or .. they'll be gone ..

not meaning to derail BUT couldn't resist this one....being a girl :) BECAUSE the same mechanics used to reel them in ENDS after they arrive ;)

well actually ... but rare .. there is another way ... you come together spiritually on a postulate ... it is like you put out the idea of an ideal something and suddenly she shows up and .. everything is spontaneous and in agreement ...

like "hi .. how are you"
"fine ... you look great"
"wow you look great too"
"where you going? "
" guess I'm going with you:
"wow really .. sounds great"

there is no effort counter effort because you spiritually met by your own thoughts

and turns out fantastic ...


jim

CD7
20th June 2013, 00:59
which creates counter effort ... same like trying to get a girlfriend ... oh you can pull them in .. but after they arrive ???? wow .. you have to be able to handle all those mechanics in high speed .. or .. they'll be gone ..

not meaning to derail BUT couldn't resist this one....being a girl :) BECAUSE the same mechanics used to reel them in ENDS after they arrive ;)

well actually ... but rare .. there is another way ... you come together spiritually on a postulate ... it is like you put out the idea of an ideal something and suddenly she shows up and .. everything is spontaneous and in agreement ...

like "hi .. how are you"
"fine ... you look great"
"wow you look great too"
"where you going? "
" guess I'm going with you:
"wow really .. sounds great"

there is no effort counter effort because you spiritually met by your own thoughts

and turns out fantastic ...


jim




there is no effort counter effort because you spiritually met by your own thoughts

and turns out fantastic ...

.....And then DaDAdaDom.....ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE---and then its like "wht the F'k did u just call me?" .."nothing", "yes u did" Well F this u ahole im outta here!! LOL!!! Thts why im PERMANANTLY dating for the rest of my life :)

Postulate tht! Why yes I think I will...

jiminii
20th June 2013, 03:20
which creates counter effort ... same like trying to get a girlfriend ... oh you can pull them in .. but after they arrive ???? wow .. you have to be able to handle all those mechanics in high speed .. or .. they'll be gone ..

not meaning to derail BUT couldn't resist this one....being a girl :) BECAUSE the same mechanics used to reel them in ENDS after they arrive ;)

well actually ... but rare .. there is another way ... you come together spiritually on a postulate ... it is like you put out the idea of an ideal something and suddenly she shows up and .. everything is spontaneous and in agreement ...

like "hi .. how are you"
"fine ... you look great"
"wow you look great too"
"where you going? "
" guess I'm going with you:
"wow really .. sounds great"

there is no effort counter effort because you spiritually met by your own thoughts

and turns out fantastic ...


jim




there is no effort counter effort because you spiritually met by your own thoughts

and turns out fantastic ...

.....And then DaDAdaDom.....ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE---and then its like "wht the F'k did u just call me?" .."nothing", "yes u did" Well F this u ahole im outta here!! LOL!!! Thts why im PERMANANTLY dating for the rest of my life :)

Postulate tht! Why yes I think I will...

well in my case can't find a match ... hahahahah ....

if you match people you need to match awareness level ... that purpose in life ... and and and and ... so ... it's a

same like you say ... permanently single ... but ... friends ... it is better ... I am finding if we don't do that bed scene .. the friendship gets fantastic ... . and last a long time

so must be something about the bed scene that messes everyone up


I like friends ... so rare ... ... find a good match

jim

1 flew over
5th October 2013, 05:07
.....And then DaDAdaDom.....ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE---and then its like "wht the F'k did u just call me?" .."nothing", "yes u did" Well F this u ahole im outta here!! LOL!!! Thts why im PERMANANTLY dating for the rest of my life :)

Postulate tht! Why yes I think I will...

I don’t remember which tape it was on where LRH mentioned that running around in human bodies with different genders is not Native State. In Native State we don’t have either genders or bodies or even a planet to have them on so if any relationship is to survive here on planet earth it must be continuously created or it will cease to be. Sorry guys but they have to be worked on and sometimes it just isn’t worth it.:(

Your mileage may vary.
1 Flew Over

Agape
5th October 2013, 11:56
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-hp7-Gdegk[/url]

I did my music in New York City
then I want to Hollywood California to try to promote the music

it was in Hollywood that I was introduced to a Buddhist Chant

and stopped the rain between 2 traffic signals a block apart on Hollywood Blvd ...

I was angry from this chant ... It didn't make sense .. couldn't see how a chant can create this.

So I realized it always happened when I was thinking nothing

so I did it again with NO CHANT .. and then think NOTHING
and it happened again and again and again and again





Very nice video Jim . I think it made you 'angry' because you've never studied Buddhism that time .

It's been done countless times , both before and after Buddha , some Tibetan Masters were better known as 'Weather Makers' .
There are Vedic 'chants' ( mantras ) that can alter situations, countless mantras ( mana - traha = mind protective words ) , in old Tibet the same was called Bon ( Bon = mantra , seed syllable ) .

They work on principle of resonance , frequency resonance , similarly as skilled violin player or drummers can actually break windows of the building where they play,
similarly as marching soldiers can break bridge under their feet if they follow the same rhythm.

The mystery is in mind of course and in the chant , in the power of what we call 'word of truth' .

It does work but the trick is that no Buddhist monk ( for example ) would agree to discuss this in public , talking of special powers equals breaking of your samayas ( wows of dignity ) , since no noble teachings are intended on achieving special powers . The well experienced Masters ( such as 'Weather Makers' ) do not talk a lot usually , all they do is practise these chants, observe rituals, disciplines, contemplate on the core principles, 4 Noble Truth etc.

They also , generally say that if they use those powers a lot , the next life they'll have to take birth as very humble people without any special training in order to purify their ego sense .

Ordinary monks , many of whom can do that are not allowed to mention this, since it consists of breaking your wows of purity and it has to be confessed in front of assembly , if repeated ( no matter it's true or not ) it means being knocked out of the order .

So... like with many discussions on 'psychic powers' here, it's easier to read than write on , and very sticky subject .

I am not saying 'scientology' is wrong and anything else is right , and what I know personally, does not come from this world either that's how I know where the systems are flawed and their prophets likewise .

You're not alone . Quite few of us have been exploring the abstract realms for a good time in our life, principles and axioms, yet .. they're not the truth.

One day , when everything we know can be named and linked to each other in simple understandable terms , to establish link between this dimension and the other ( dimension ) , which remains physicists dream and spiritualist dream likewise ,
not that it could not be done ..

it all will look more logical. Science always seems to precede power in few steps .



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