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Adi
2nd July 2013, 20:46
Hi guys,

I wanted to ask for advice, or help, I suppose. I'm dealing with some pretty sever anxiety and panic attacks at the moment, its consuming every moment of my life, I have constant worry and anxiety about things in my life, its beginning to affect my relationships and work.

When I first awake in the morning, I'm in sever panic, worrying about what the day is going to be like, its so uncomfortable, I can't enjoy life with these feelings, its really consuming me.

My energy is so low, I get awful thoughts and feelings, I have so much inner thinking going on, about my body and my health, its all just such a mess. I'm beginning to think I will never feel my self again.

I just can't deal with these feelings. If anybody could offer some advice in how to control negative thoughts and learn to be happy and enjoy life again, I would be so appreciative.

Adi

varuna
2nd July 2013, 20:56
Hi Adi, So sorry - you sound like you're really suffering. I work in the Mental Health field, with people who start out feeling just like you...please pm me, I would be glad to help.

Good wishes, V

778 neighbour of some guy
2nd July 2013, 21:00
Deworm!!:kiss:

Conaire
2nd July 2013, 21:01
Have you considered seeking professional help, from a cognitive behavior therapist or such like? Also, acupuncture can work miracles, with slower results, but with the advantage of not having to take pharmaceutical drugs. . I notice you're in Dublin, I could p.m. a phone number or two if you so wish.

norman
2nd July 2013, 21:03
Are you taking any medications ?

About 5 years ago my psychiatrist put me on a new drug that sent my anxiety level through the roof. I'd never experienced anything like it. It was insane. It took 5 months to persuade him to stop the prescription.

If you are experiencing anything like what I was going through then, it's no good anyone telling you try techniques to chill out. Nothing works.

My whole day was spent in hell waiting for me to take a knock out pill at bedtime. It was the best time of the day when the pill kicked in and I was finally able to relax and go to sleep.

I can't advise you any better than to say you must deal with it physically not mentally. If you think you can manage it, try a hard exercise routine.

TargeT
2nd July 2013, 21:04
It might be helpful if you do some philosophical searching, read this thread:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54217-Their-Mind-and-the-Emotional-Matrix-that-we-create-with-it.&highlight=mind
understanding the inner workings of the mind has greatly helped me, it's very stabilizing; I have pared research with calming exercises, visualization and self realization (all of which mean nothing unless they work for you and you can commit to the ideas).

If you cannot use meditation or calming exercises (this is really the best method) you may need to resort to supplemental help

I would look into (in this order) the following substances:

Cannabis (will help with mood, may not work with anxiety, depends on the person)
Kava-Kava (legal everywhere, great for anxiety, natural root extract)
modafinil (will work for energy levels and anxiety, but don't take it in the afternoon)

I'm not affiliated with the terrible "modern medicine" field at all, I have seen these substances work for others, you are your own custom model so some self experimentation will be necessary to find the best thing "for you".

best of luck!

Wind
2nd July 2013, 21:05
Start to meditate and breathe consciously. Some years ago I used to have severe anxiety, but I got over it. I don't say that it was easy. No, it was extremely painful and I'm still sometimes mildly anxious, but when you can blank your mind it really does help.

Ultimately you are not your thoughts or your feelings, it is only your mind that is suffering. Also I highly recommend Eckhart Tolle's The Power of Now. The book that has changed so many lives, including mine.

Deq_1lg9Dlo

BrianEn
2nd July 2013, 21:09
First thing I know is "breathe." I have re-occurring anxiety attacks where I think I'm going to have another and die. I just pick up the phone and talk. I don't know in your case, but if it has lasted for a time and won't go away, it may be time to seek professional help. I've had severe depression before and went on the meds for it. Many people told me not to that, but as I was the suffering from it, I went ahead with it. I have been balanced for a while and have no qualms about going on it again if I had to.

markenty13
2nd July 2013, 22:04
I am with Wind and would suggest the book "the power of now" by eckhart tolle - fantastic read and really did change my life.

the book shows you how your mind works, how to change your thoughts and also show you how your thoughts effect your physical body....

Free PDF here for you and anyone else :) -- http://www.baytallaah.com/bookspdf/51.pdf

TargeT
2nd July 2013, 22:19
Start to meditate and breathe consciously. Some years ago I used to have severe anxiety, but I got over it. I don't say that it was easy. No, it was extremely painful and I'm still sometimes mildly anxious, but when you can blank your mind it really does help.

Ultimately you are not your thoughts or your feelings, it is only your mind that is suffering. Also I highly recommend Eckhart Tolle's The Power of Now. The book that has changed so many lives, including mine.

Deq_1lg9Dlo


this is a big part of what helped me and what I use to help others.

there several other things I'll use as they seem appropriate.




I read a thread on this forum, (perhaps it was the Enlightenment and the Ego thread; I'm not quite sure) that had a mental exercise that I use quite often for people who seem to be stressing out over life circumstances (or anything really).

I'm sure I'll do a terrible job at re telling, but here it is:


You ask the person you want to help this question: "Imagine you are surrounded by a thousand hungry tigers, what do you do?"

Now I've gotten some pretty damn creative answers, I usually let the person tell me what they will do and ask follow up questions, they often ask me if there are rocks or grass or what ever laying around; I remind them that its their imagination & they should tell me what’s there (a bit of fore shadowing). these explanations continue for a while, but inevitably they always ask me "what would you do"

I simply say "I'd stop imaging".

the results of that statement are always a bit dramatic, I follow it up by explaining how powerful the mind is and how we can work out self’s up over things that are really a non issue. How our mind (and ego) can really be rough on ourselves, it will tell us things that seem like they could be true, but they are just imaginary tigers, just tigers. (the more creative and the longer they take answering my original question the better this seems to work, so I will drag it out a while for their benefit).

so now me and the people I've done this with have an inside joke of "hungry tigers" or "that’s just tigers" when nervous feelings or anxieties come up.

I'm pretty good at avoid tigers now, that and the exercise where you ask your inner voice "what is my next thought" and wait (you shouldn't hear any inner monologue response, as the Ego is not a creative force, and cannot tell you what is next, it only lives in the past or comments on the present) have given me a lot of mental clarity.

perhaps this exercise will help others; if nothing else it’s a fun and easy way to shed light on people's own inner workings.

Ernie Nemeth
3rd July 2013, 00:11
I know quite a few people who are very close to me that also had episodes of severe anxiety. No amount of philosophy or enlightened thinking is going to do the trick, from my experiences. I would immediately seek professional help of one form or another before things get worse. It may go away on its own, it may not. Get a handle on the emotions now, then decide what further treatment you can do to stop the feelings from coming back. Then a change in perception might well be in order. But in the middle of these attacks, rationalizing them away is often quite difficult. All IMHO, of course.

May you be guided to the help you need.

Dorjezigzag
3rd July 2013, 00:43
I used to do a lot of public presentations and usually I was OK but sometimes out the blue I would get anxious and I found that Bach flower remedies would be of use. I went on the site for the link and there was quite a lot of info there about possible approaches which I will cut and paste as it seems pretty good.


Anxiety affects our whole being. It affects how we feel, how we behave and has very real physical symptoms.

It feels a bit like fear but whereas we know what we are frightened of, we often don’t know what we are anxious about.

Mild anxiety is vague and unsettling – severe anxiety can be extremely debilitating.

What causes anxiety?

Anxiety is often triggered by stress in our lives. Some of us are more vulnerable to anxiety than others, but even those who become anxious easily can learn to manage it well. We can also make ourselves anxious with “negative self-talk” – a habit of always telling ourselves the worst will happen.

How will I recognize anxiety?

As well as feeling apprehensive and worried (possibly without knowing why), you may experience some of the following physical symptoms:

Tense muscles
Trembling
Churning stomach
Nausea
Diarrhoea
Headache
Backache
Heart palpitations
Numbness or “pins and needles” in arms, hands or legs
Sweating/flushing
When is anxiety a problem?

We all become anxious from time to time. It becomes a problem when it interferes with life in the absence of real threat, or goes on too long after the danger has past.

What if I just avoid things that make me anxious?

Avoiding situations that make you anxious might help you feel better in the short term. The trouble is the anxiety keeps returning, and has a habit of spreading to other situations. This can lead to you avoiding things like shops, crowded places, lectures or tutorials. So although avoidance makes you feel better -

Relief is only temporary – you may worry about what will happen next time.
Every time you avoid something it is harder next time you try to face it.
Gradually you want to avoid more and more things.
OK, so what else can I do to feel better?

Learn to manage stress in your life. Keep an eye on pressures and deadlines and make a commitment to taking time out from study or work.
Learn a variety of relaxation techniques. Physical relaxation methods and meditation techniques really do help. We have some relaxation tapes at Student Counselling that will help you get started. Health food shops also sell a variety of relaxation tapes.
Look after your physical self. Eat healthily, get regular exercise and try to keep a regular sleep pattern. Avoid alcohol, cannabis and junk food.
Practise deep abdominal breathing. This consists of breathing in deeply and slowly through your nose, taking the air right down to you abdomen. Visualise the air travelling right down to your abdomen and say the word “calm” to yourself as you breathe in. Then breathe out slowly and gently through your mouth. As you breathe out visualise the stress and tension leaving your body with your breath and think the word “relax.” Deliberately let your muscles go floppy as you breathe out. Take three deep breaths at a time. If you breathe deeply for too long you may feel dizzy from the extra oxygen. You can repeat the three breaths after a short time of breathing normally.
Learn to replace “negative self talk” with “coping self talk.” When you catch yourself thinking something negative like “I can’t do this, it’s just too hard,” try to change it to something more positive, like “This is hard but I can get through it.” It can be helpful to think of “changing the tape” that runs through your mind. It is useful to make a list of the negative thoughts you often have and write a list of positive, believable thoughts to replace them.
Anxiety can be exhausting and debilitating. Don’t suffer alone for too long. It often helps to talk to a Counsellor or Psychologist, who can help you find ways to deal with stress in your life and teach you skills to manage anxiety.

Edited and Compiled by Christian Nordqvist
Original article date: 23rd April 2004
Article updated: 10th February 2009

If you have any symptoms of Anxiety, try reading about these Bach Flower Remedies:

Mimulus: Fear of anything you can put a name on: Fear of dying, being alone, spiders, losing a job, not be able to pay your bills, fear of flying, fear of a panic attack, fear of small places etc.

Aspen: Fear of the unknown, fear that something bad is going to happen but you can not put a name on it.

Red Chestnut: Fear that something bad is going to happen to your loved ones.

Rock Rose: Frozen fear, terror, the deer in the headlight type of fear.

Cherry Plum: Fear that you may lose control on yourself, explosive anger, the feeling you wish to hurt yourself or others.

Elm: If you feel overwhelmed, too much to do, not enough time.

White Chestnut: If you have repeated unwanted thoughts or worries.

Anxiety/Fear can be cured with the help of Bach Flower Remedies. The Bach Flower Remedies work on the emotional level, removing emotional imbalances such as, depression, anxiety, jealousy, fears, trauma, self-confidence and impatience as an example.

The Bach Flower Remedies are 100% safe with no side effects and when you feel fine again you stop taking the remedies and you will remain fine.
http://www.bachflower.com/what-is-anxiety-what-causes-anxiety/

All the best, hope this helps

nonesuch
3rd July 2013, 01:02
One of the fastest methods of change is EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing). It is very simple work and very safe. Any therapist who offers it will be trained in its best use. I'm not describing it here, because its easy to Google. I've used it and it cleared up anxiety for me in 12 sessions, which is the protocol for doing it safely. It didn't take the full 12 weeks to work, but by the end I was changed and RELEIVED.

It is considered mainstream therapy but I liked it because its thorough and not just sitting around talking about the past, hoping to find some key. Philosophy and meditation are great, but when anxious, they're just a band aid and often a band aid that is too hard to apply in the middle of a panic attack. I think its far better to get rid of panic attacks all together so no 'techniques' are required anymore.



Hi guys,

I wanted to ask for advice, or help, I suppose. I'm dealing with some pretty sever anxiety and panic attacks at the moment, its consuming every moment of my life, I have constant worry and anxiety about things in my life, its beginning to affect my relationships and work.

When I first awake in the morning, I'm in sever panic, worrying about what the day is going to be like, its so uncomfortable, I can't enjoy life with these feelings, its really consuming me.

My energy is so low, I get awful thoughts and feelings, I have so much inner thinking going on, about my body and my health, its all just such a mess. I'm beginning to think I will never feel my self again.

I just can't deal with these feelings. If anybody could offer some advice in how to control negative thoughts and learn to be happy and enjoy life again, I would be so appreciative.

Adi

Another1
3rd July 2013, 01:12
Carrying some Amethyst on your person can help with anxiety.

Source of following text is http://www.charmsoflight.com/amethyst-healing-properties.html
I can not vouch for that author or site but parts I underlined below are easy to verify independently.

Amethyst is a powerful and protective stone. It guards against psychic attack, transmuting the energy into love and protecting the wearer from all types of harm, including geopathic or electromagnetic stress and ill wishes from others. Amethyst is a natural tranquiliser, it relieves stress and strain, soothes irritability, balances mood swings, dispels anger, rage, fear and anxiety. Alleviates sadness and grief, and dissolves negativity. Amethyst activates spiritual awareness, opens intuition and enhances psychic abilities. It has strong healing and cleansing powers. Amethyst encourages sobriety, having a sobering effect on overindulgence of alcohol, drugs or other addictions. It calms and stimulates the mind, helping you become more focused, enhancing memory and improving motivation. Amethyst assists in remembering and understanding dreams. It relieves insomnia. Encourages selflessness and spiritual wisdom.

AMystic3434
3rd July 2013, 01:17
I hate to say it but smoke marijuana. The drug has relaxing effects

ghostrider
3rd July 2013, 02:00
I can sypathize with you , if I get an attack in the car when my wife is driving, I make her pull over or I will jump out of the car while it's moving... I've battled panic attacks since 1986, they are no fun , and come out of nowhere ... what works for me is , silence , breathing, and just waiting for it to pass ... this will sound crazy but, look into past lives, with the veil so thin, you could be remembering a tramatic moment in another lifetime, appearing as a panic attack ...sounds like whatever it is , it is connected to the moring time as you first wake , maybe get up a little earlier and change your morning routine... I feel for you bro... I never had a panic attack until I saw one of the shadow people in my room ...

william r sanford72
3rd July 2013, 02:11
careful with the weed.it does increase the heart rate..20 30 mins.if thats the case.eat.lots of good advice.hang in there.

vilcabamba
3rd July 2013, 02:26
I had a really bad attack during hurricane sandy when we were in 40 degree freezing cold without electricity for a week. I was having convulsions and it got dangerous. What worked for me was doing "OOOOOOOHHHHHMs" over and over again. The vibration of oohhm increases the vibration of every cell In your body. Then I did some "tapping" over and over again. You can look up tapping, this really helps. You tap the pressure points like acupuncture. People teach this online.

Then I did Ohhhm mantras over and over again. On youtube you can look up "Oooh Mahni Padmi Ohhm". The AAAH and the OOOHM frequency raise the frequency of your cells.

Also, rub Lavendar oil on the souls of your feet and then breath in lavender oil 6 times from the palm of your hands.

Also, I use the bache Flower Essences daily.

Then finally to evoke your guardian angels or Elohim races you can say this chant or look on youtube
"Kadoish Kadoish Kadoish Adonai Elohim Tsavahoth"

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Another1
3rd July 2013, 02:34
Also, rub Lavendar oil on the souls of your feet and then breath in lavender oil 6 times from the palm of your hands.

Also, I use the bache Flower Essences daily.

Both great ideas, simple and inexpensive ~ much safer than therapy in my non-pedigreed opine :)

Nat_Lee
3rd July 2013, 03:15
PM me for my personal experience ...
I had severe panic attacks and anxiety problems to ...
I'm a singer and it was a hell when I was about to get on stage because with the track factor on top of it ...
I have a SIMPLE exercise that I have learned in therapy .... not a meditation because in those moments it was hard to meditate for me ...
PM me I'll give it to you it is SOoooooooooooo SIMPLE :)
Love xxx

GCS1103
3rd July 2013, 03:57
Hi, Adi-

Many years ago I also suffered from panic attacks. They can come out of the blue without warning and I decided to seek therapy from a specialist in dealing with these attacks. Like Nat_Lee said in her post, I also learned a simple exercise that brings the severity of the attack down to a manageable level. It starts with a breathing exercise from the diaphragm, involves rapid eye movements as if you were speed reading a book, and several other exercises done in succession. If you PM me, I will be happy to pass along what I learned. It has been 15 years since I have had an attack, so I have to give credit to the therapist.

The anxiety you said is affecting you so severely is another issue. If you are having a major problem coping with your daily life, it may be beneficial for you to seek medical help. I know many people are adverse to drugs, but since you are the one suffering and dealing with this, you should know that there is a temporary solution. There are several medications that can alleviate your anxiety and allow you to enjoy life until you are able to determine what is causing your condition. It could be a chemical imbalance or it could be caused by something you are dealing with that has overwhelmed you. It sounds like you are also going through a depression caused by the panic attacks and anxiety, lowering your energy levels. That is usually a consequence of depression. Having been where you are now, I can tell you that there are solutions to your problem.

onawah
3rd July 2013, 04:34
I've been there, Adi.
I recommend spending as much time in Nature as you can, lying on the ground on a cotton or wool blanket (nothing synthetic, as that blocks the earth energy.
Walk or sit with your bare feet on the ground.
I think part of Eckhart Tolle's secret is that he spends lots of time in Nature. He sat on a park bench just being for a long time.
Marijuana can be a quick fix, but there are inherent dangers in psychoactive substances, even natural ones, especially if your energy isn't very grounded and strong.
Too much can result in leaks and cracks in your energy field, which only makes you more vulnerable.
Rescue Remedy is a good all around Bach flower essence for trauma, and there are others, depending on your particular symptoms.
If you aren't getting enough exercise, sleep, quiet time and aren't eating a healthy diet or drinking enough pure water, your body and mind may be trying to tell you in every way it can that it's time for some life changes.
Yoga can be very beneficial too, especially if you can find a good teacher.
Best wishes.

ghostrider
3rd July 2013, 04:44
I've been there, Adi.
I recommend spending as much time in Nature as you can, lying on the ground on a cotton or wool blanket (nothing synthetic, as that blocks the earth energy.
Walk or sit with your bare feet on the ground.
I think part of Eckhart Tolle's secret is that he spends lots of time in Nature. He sat on a park bench just being for a long time.
Marijuana can be a quick fix, but there are inherent dangers in psychoactive substances, even natural ones, especially if your energy isn't very grounded and strong.
Too much can result in leaks and cracks in your energy field, which only makes you more vulnerable.
Rescue Remedy is a good all around Bach flower essence for trauma, and there are others, depending on your particular symptoms.
If you aren't getting enough exercise, sleep, quiet time and aren't eating a healthy diet or drinking enough pure water, your body and mind may be trying to tell you in every way it can that it's time for some life changes.
Yoga can be very beneficial too, especially if you can find a good teacher.
Best wishes.

totally agree, being in nature can calm you down , just the sounds alone can do wonders ...

Kraut
3rd July 2013, 07:54
Hi Adi,
sorry to hear you are going through this. Anxiety and panic are terrible and very hard to deal with. Is your anxiety more of a psychological nature, or perhaps health related? I've had anxiety, quite severe myself, but it turned out to be health related. You could say the origin was physical due to some imbalances. Perhaps if you can you should look into that. Sometimes disease or hormonal imbalances can cause anxiety. Good luck.

Best wishes,
-Kraut

Lifebringer
3rd July 2013, 08:35
Remember that this has been happening since the beginning of time here, and it too, shall pass, and if your heart and mind and intention towards others is good, you'll be okay, but you'll have to do what you must to be in that number of remnant when we have to start over. Remember also, that humans have come a long way as far as technology, and if it's not too shocking as it was for the ancestors who didn't understand, then we will remember how to begin again, and more texts/books will be written for these times and for the future of humanity. Only this time it won't be kept from the people because of class, color, hate, or other negative feelings that cause the anxiety. I think it's called "shedding." WE are all here shedding what the matrix taught, and working our way through. You're gonna be fine, as long as you know, you will get through this too.

Deep breathing and meditation on the anxieties need to be given to your inner self guide, so it can calm you while working through this. We've all been through a pressurized flow of energy that calls on us to seek the truth, before its too late. WE give warnings and links and sometimes even approach them with what we've learned, only to be looked at like the square among the circles. It's okay, so was Jesus and he wasn't accepted in his own town as worthy to be enlightened by God and therefore he had to show them. When they saw the miracles, they became fearful and to calm their fears, crucified him, according to the text, so a little uncomfortable feeling, before shedding is expected. I'm just thankful, we aren't being nailed like Christ was. I'm thankful that humans have evolved from that barbaric time, and now communications between the people, NOT the leaders, is possible so that you get to know the Iraq's, Iranians, Russians, Chinese, Koreans, Americans, Italians, French, African, ALL THE HUMANS who are now waking up and wish to serve others. Their lives reflecting "service to others.

I am STO soul, and have been since I could remember as a child.(maybe I was selfish in a past life and need to learn sacrifice?) Even helping to clean scrapes on other children, by taking first aid at the fire department for students, and while a camp councelor in the inner cities where concrete scrapes are every day nasty scrapes of lifetime scarring.

It felt good then to be able to help, and I was happy to do it. Get a good feeling just thinking about it. The children behind in their studies, and teaching them how to study, as a student, I was not labled a teacher, but had the traits to do it/instinct. I wonder if when joined, if I am some sort of healer or comforter.

dim
3rd July 2013, 08:57
Until what can't be attacked is found inside, nothing with help.
And that's the actual reason of the attacks, to lead you where their arms can't reach.

Mu2143
3rd July 2013, 09:19
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greybeard
3rd July 2013, 09:30
Sugar can be a major cause of severe anxiety for some people.
Chris

markpierre
3rd July 2013, 09:53
I would expect anxiety to increase to be honest with you. The energy keeps amping up and I think its God's finger on the dial.
Not his evil twin.

Spiral
3rd July 2013, 10:37
I suffer from this too, definately get your homones & blood sugar levels checked out (you can buy blood sugar level meters from chemists, a one off test is pretty pointless) as low & high blood sugar levels realy screw with your system.

IMHO its best to avoid prescribed meds, very dangerous & addictive.

If its not of physical origin then you need to ask yourself what is the actual cause, not the surface crap that the mind throws at you, you know you can & do cpoe with that day in day out, but what lies beneath...

Guided meditations such as those by Belleruth Naparstek (http://belleruthnaparstek.com/) esp the trauma & heartbreak ones can be helpfull, as can the hypnosis sessions from hypnosisdownloads, (http://www.hypnosisdownloads.com/?gclid=CKWLteyPk7gCFfMQtAodDQMAzA)

If you are going to go for therapy, someone who can hypnotise you to ask what the source of the fear is may get there a lot quicker, do you have nighmares or night terrors ? If so its more likely to be something in the subconscious, and you may need help bringing it to the surface.

Kryztian
3rd July 2013, 12:12
I don't know if this will help, but I just thought of this yesterday and tried it and felt it worked for me. Was walking through the woods, trying to work through my mixture of anger and anxiety and it wasn't working. Then I came stopped at a tree (okay, I am a tree hugger and this one is a fave) and asked it if it could away my overwhelming feelings. I blinked, and before I knew it, these feeling were gone! Of course they keep coming back and I am not in the woods so I just think of my friend the tree.

A shaman once told me that many of our feeling and vibes that overwhelm us are beneficial to nature, just as what we excrete and flush down the toilet becomes food for other beings in our ecosystem.

sheme
3rd July 2013, 12:37
I hate to say it but smoke marijuana. The drug has relaxing effects

Hmm more paranoia caused by this stuff than cured by it, if you use it dump it - trust in yourself -you are amazing, love and peace to you, some of the content of this site may contribute to your unhappiness take a break and heal, then come back and help the Earth, she needs us all.

http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/ate/mentalhealth/205331.html

Sidney
3rd July 2013, 13:00
Start to meditate and breathe consciously. Some years ago I used to have severe anxiety, but I got over it. I don't say that it was easy. No, it was extremely painful and I'm still sometimes mildly anxious, but when you can blank your mind it really does help.

Ultimately you are not your thoughts or your feelings, it is only your mind that is suffering. Also I highly recommend Eckhart Tolle's The Power of Now. The book that has changed so many lives, including mine.

Deq_1lg9Dlo

That is a very powerful message!! Thank you so much for posting this Wind. I am bumping it.

service2others
3rd July 2013, 13:00
If man made it, don't eat it. Meditate. ground yourself to the Earth and feel the grass under your feet. Pat and Hug an effectionate animal . Look up at the stars. Hug a tree. Forgive and forget. Seek some humour and laugh out loud. Buy a homeless person a meal. Repeat until your anxiety is gone. Peaceout xxo

WhiteFeather
3rd July 2013, 13:35
If your not going to seek professional help i would include these in my daily intake. It worked for me.

Peaceful music at night before going to sleep. I would visit Youtube and Listen to nature sounds such as Rainforest or Ocean Sounds. Whilst listening to nature sounds i would breathe slowly. When i awoke in the morning i felt refreshed and cleared.

Lavendar essential oils are great for calming. A member on this forum advised my son to use this when he stressed out in school. Simply put a few drops on a tissue and breathe it in during the course of the day when stressed. It has a great calming effect. Also you can put a few drops on your pillow at nite. Your dreams will be heavenly.

Go outside and try to connect with Nature. It seems today we are becoming disconected from it when we are a part of it. Nature has some great Technology. Much better than our technology.

I also stopped watching TV and started to read books. The TV scrambled up the mind for me.

Find your Peace. When you do you will relax more and feel less anxious.

Burning some Incense relaxes me as well. I Recommend Sandalwood.

Good Luck, may you find your peace and spiritual grounding.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IISb2EVRAJk

ulli
3rd July 2013, 13:43
If your not going to seek professional help i would include these in my daily intake. It worked for me.

Peaceful music at night before going to sleep. I would visit Youtube and Listen to nature sounds such as Rainforest or Ocean Sounds. Whilst listening to nature sounds i would breathe slowly. When i awoke in the morning i felt refreshed and cleared.

Lavendar essential oils are great for calming. A member on this forum advised my son to use this when he stressed out in school. Simply put a few drops on a tissue and breathe it in during the course of the day when stressed. It has a great calming effect. Also you can put a few drops on your pillow at nite. Your dreams will be heavenly.

Go outside and try to connect with Nature. It seems today we are becoming disconected from it when we are a part of it. Nature has some great Technology. Much better than our technology.

I also stopped watching TV and started to read books. The TV scrambled up the mind for me.

Find your Peace. When you do you will relax more and feel less anxious.

Burning some Incense relaxes me as well. I Recommend Sandalwood.

Good Luck, may you find your peace and spiritual grounding.

This is good advice and will work even better when combined with physical activity or work-out,
to the point of exhaustion.
Then relaxation will go even deeper.
Using polarities like this intelligently will restore inner balance.

Wind
3rd July 2013, 14:25
Sugar can be a major cause of severe anxiety for some people.

And many other food substances like caffeine and chemicals too. I did drink lots of coffee before and it didn't help at all, in fact it made the symptoms way worse. These days I only drink very small amounts of coffee, even though it's not that good for my body.

And like WhiteFeather said, good relaxing music is so good for you! High vibrating music really does heal, I really couldn't live without it. I suggest to take large doses of it every day.

Earth Angel
3rd July 2013, 14:45
I have two girls in their 20's.......they always seemed quite happy and stable......lately although they live in two different cities they are both experiencing sudden panic attacks and anxiety. I have talked to them and many of their young friends also seem to suffer the same along with depression .....several are on antidepressants....I think something , chemtrails, GMO foods, Fluoride, is the cause of all of this.......too many young people feeling bad
Adi I have PM'd you with some things that I hope will help you....Slainte!

ulli
3rd July 2013, 14:49
Sugar can be a major cause of severe anxiety for some people.

And many other food substances like caffeine and chemicals too. I did drink lots of coffee before and it didn't help at all, in fact it made the symptoms way worse. These days I only drink very small amounts of coffee, even though it's not that good for my body.

And like WhiteFeather said, good relaxing music is so good for you! High vibrating music really does heal, I really couldn't live without it. I suggest to take large doses of it every day.

May I ask, did you take your coffee black, or with sugar?

Wind
3rd July 2013, 15:08
May I ask, did you take your coffee black, or with sugar?

If possible, with (cane) sugar and cream. Though normally with milk. :)

ulli
3rd July 2013, 15:32
May I ask, did you take your coffee black, or with sugar?

If possible, with (cane) sugar and cream. Though normally with milk. :)

I use cane sugar, too. One cup in the mornings, another in the afternoon.
Freshly ground, and always freshly brewed.
Studies show that coffee is only healthy when drunk within ten minutes of brewing.
After that it's detrimental to health.

MargueriteBee
3rd July 2013, 15:34
I used to wake up like that. It will get better. For me I started grabbing it in the morning instead of it grabbing me. It is like a mental beast. I repeat to myself, "I am love, therefore I love", for as long as I need to.

Tesla_WTC_Solution
3rd July 2013, 17:56
Hello there OP! I hope you are feeling better today :(

Maybe try to start eating LOTS of vitamin B/folate!

It's what I've been telling everyone.

There is a new vitamin called Deplin (non generic L methylfolate) that works really well, but I don't know how to get it without a doctor's Rx

Nickolai
3rd July 2013, 18:01
Same problem here, together with depression.

To those who advise the psychology help I would answer that it's might be a good idea but not in Russia.
I have a ex-schoolmate, she lives nearby. She is living example of what doctors here can do to a person. They sedated her and are still sedating. Even if she ask them not too. She is totally different person now with dead eyes and lowest energy level possible.

I definitely will buy the New Earth book. Thank you very much everyone!

Nickolai

mona
3rd July 2013, 20:58
Hello,and so sorry to hear you are suffering. It wont last forever, it may crop up for you every now and then but it wont be as acute.

In my early twenties, I too suffered from anxiety attacks to the point where I couldn't face going out shopping let alone a night out with friends.

The symptoms were so intense that I felt I was going a) pass out b) die there and then and c) make a complete idiot of myself as well as doing A and B.

I haven't had a panic attack in years now. I still get worried and anxious from time to time but my attitude and belief in myself is changed.

Once you acknowledge the cause of your anxiety you are halfway there to doing something about it. Trust me its usually down to childhood suppressed fears or worry that seems to rear its head in adulthood or a period of intense stress or trauma that shows up later when you are out of intense fear mode.

I also work with adults and young people in need of support so this is not just based on my personal experience only.

Find your own truth and work with that, face it head on and challenge it. It wont be easy.

When you have a problem and you don't address it, it grows bigger and more and more powerful, even when you think that you have put it to the back of your mind, it festers.

All the dope, alcohol and other escapes will only cover temporarily. When all is said and done underneath all that is you.

I hope you manage to find that little demon and look it in the eye and give it a good dose of love.

Love and peace

GloriousPoetry
3rd July 2013, 21:27
Perhaps your anxiety is related to a misinterpretation of relating to external and internal stimulus. I say this because I have experienced anxiety and panic attacks throughout my life. In 2004 after experiencing the release of kundalini energy in my body the anxiety and depression I had experienced throughout my life was clarified to me. I am extremely sensitive to so many external and internal cues.....other people's energy, smells, even the way my body digest food. Mornings have always been difficult for me due to my body waking up and having to clear allergies and clear my head of congestion. Some of us are naturally more sentient beings and our mind tries to interpret sensations that are more heightened in some of us. Sometimes I still catch myself attaching reasons or memories of something to interpret internal and external stimulus.
Watch the movie "What the bleep do we know" one of my favorite statements in that movie is '' all emotions are holographic impressions." We are full of impressions and learning to interpret them for what they really are is key. For those of us who are more sentient beings those impressions are more easily stimulated. In a nutshell perhaps your anxiety is rooted in a sensitivity and misinterpretation of relating to the world.

When you feel anxiety or dark thoughts enter your mind envision yourself surrounded by white gardenia flowers and acknowledge the sensitivity and beauty of these flowers while taking in their incredible scent. Be gentle with yourself as you would be with these flowers.......your mind is the tyrant attempting to interpret the gentleness of who you are......much love to you !

Sierra
3rd July 2013, 21:31
Hi Adi,

I see you are 21 years old, so there could be a problem with being at the age where hormones are going wild and filling the system with go/no go, fight/flight, and sheer obsessing/obsessive terror. When I was going through the transition to physical adulthood, I took massive doses of niacin and Vit. C, (cannot poison yourself on Vit.C/Niacin, the excess just flushes out of the system) to flush out the adrenochrome, a byproduct of adrenaline, that can cause biochemical schizophrenia (schizophrenics do not have the natural ability to flush adrenochrome, one can be tested by a mauve factor test). It helps, but really what helps is time for the chemicals to stabilize in adulthood form, and for that you just have to wait, chanting to yourself, this too shall pass, this too shall pass.

What people say about being with nature, flushing with water, exercising to exhaustion, eating right, grounding to the earth, is so right on. You are at one of the most difficult stages in the maturing of a human being's body, and it really pays off to cosset yourself with good things, until you learn how to shut off this nasty reaction to hormones. All these things are subtle however, and it is easy to lose faith and binge on sugar to numb the brain etc. Just have to be disciplined about it. (and don't ask me if I am disciplined, I'll lie to you lol.)

On using pot: There are more chemical receptors in the brain for pot, than any other substance. But yes, it is a two edged sword, because it can cause paranoia and fear, but like what you are going through, eventually the fear and paranoia go away as you become accustomed to the effects, it is a learning/training experience.

My husband is bipolar, and has PTSD, and our marriage would be hell on earth without pot. We smoke, and become non-reactive (This worked also on my autistic nephew, who when he hit puberty, became so violent, my sister had to install a metal door to make her bedroom into a safe room. On pot, no violence, and much less anxiety.) (All of the military programs etc. HATE pot, and do not allow their Monarch sex slaves, SuperSoldier victims to smoke, because it deprograms them, although the programmers use every other drug under the sun.)

Sierra

pine boy
3rd July 2013, 23:25
Hi Adi,

I see you are 21 years old, so there could be a problem with being at the age where hormones are going wild and filling the system with go/no go, fight/flight, and sheer obsessing/obsessive terror. When I was going through the transition to physical adulthood, I took massive doses of niacin and Vit. C, (cannot poison yourself on Vit.C/Niacin, the excess just flushes out of the system) to flush out the adrenochrome, a byproduct of adrenaline, that can cause biochemical schizophrenia (schizophrenics do not have the natural ability to flush adrenochrome, one can be tested by a mauve factor test). It helps, but really what helps is time for the chemicals to stabilize in adulthood form, and for that you just have to wait, chanting to yourself, this too shall pass, this too shall pass.

What people say about being with nature, flushing with water, exercising to exhaustion, eating right, grounding to the earth, is so right on. You are at one of the most difficult stages in the maturing of a human being's body, and it really pays off to cosset yourself with good things, until you learn how to shut off this nasty reaction to hormones. All these things are subtle however, and it is easy to lose faith and binge on sugar to numb the brain etc. Just have to be disciplined about it. (and don't ask me if I am disciplined, I'll lie to you lol.)

On using pot: There are more chemical receptors in the brain for pot, than any other substance. But yes, it is a two edged sword, because it can cause paranoia and fear, but like what you are going through, eventually the fear and paranoia go away as you become accustomed to the effects, it is a learning/training experience.

My husband is bipolar, and has PTSD, and our marriage would be hell on earth without pot. We smoke, and become non-reactive (This worked also on my autistic nephew, who when he hit puberty, became so violent, my sister had to install a metal door to make her bedroom into a safe room. On pot, no violence, and much less anxiety.) (All of the military programs etc. HATE pot, and do not allow their Monarch sex slaves, SuperSoldier victims to smoke, because it deprograms them, although the programmers use every other drug under the sun.)

Sierra

If its any way possible,Hashish is more preferable than cannibis for me.I don't suffer from anxiety but cannabis will promote some anxiety.

Hash or an edible doesnt and is very calming.I know,O.P. that you are in Ireland and I have no idea what the laws are there or if it's even an option for you.

Something that I have noticed lately is when I don't drink enough water,I get depressed and will have some anxiety issues when a complex task is at hand.

All the best to you and I hope you find something safe that will calm you.

ulli
3rd July 2013, 23:31
Same problem here, together with depression.

To those who advise the psychology help I would answer that it's might be a good idea but not in Russia.
I have a ex-schoolmate, she lives nearby. She is living example of what doctors here can do to a person. They sedated her and are still sedating. Even if she ask them not too. She is totally different person now with dead eyes and lowest energy level possible.

I definitely will buy the New Earth book. Thank you very much everyone!

Nickolai

I heard a bit about depression in Russia. Always thought it had to do with those winters.

Dorjezigzag
4th July 2013, 00:50
Same problem here, together with depression.

To those who advise the psychology help I would answer that it's might be a good idea but not in Russia.
I have a ex-schoolmate, she lives nearby. She is living example of what doctors here can do to a person. They sedated her and are still sedating. Even if she ask them not too. She is totally different person now with dead eyes and lowest energy level possible.
I definitely will buy the New Earth book. Thank you very much everyone!

Nickolai

It can be the same here in the UK. I have seen lots of examples of lost potential through synthetic poisons from the pharmaceutical cartel and destructive, soulless psychology from those that just wish to put you in a box and put a label on you.

When I say soulless I am quite literal as much modern psychology does not believe in a soul.

It is such a shame because counseling and help can be of tremendous benefit for those going through challenging times but you do need to be aware that those put in these positions within today's twisted society may not have your interest at heart. Just be careful Adi who you give your trust to

There are lots of great recommendations on this thread based on personal experience, but remember we all have different body chemistry's and one persons cure is an-others poison.

Sometimes I drink to relax, or just to be in a different head space but it is important it does not become a crutch, which I think it has in the past in my experience. Which is why if you have a lot of anxiety I think it is best to avoid it because it may give you some relief but the next day you will feel much worse than before.

As far as marijuana, I know for many people it is excellent for calming and relaxing for me personally I feel it puts me between worlds, in the twighlight zone, if I am anxious it would make me super anxious. Marijuana amongst other effects is known as a sensitizer if you feel giggly you will become hysterical (laughing), but if you are paranoid it could make you really go over the edge

I have found great benefit from the ritualistic use of ayahuasca and other psychotropics but again this is another mine field that should not be entered lightly and definitely not frequently

Smoking actually can be calming but with all the chemicals they put in cigerettes, making it habit forming I would not recommend it.

The native American approach to tobacco smoking unadulterated tobacco occasionally in a ritualistic manner, pipe of peace etc was a great custom in my opinion

I'm sure you already have some idea about what works and what does not for your body,you will get through this time which is just a realization that you need to tweak your life, diet, outlook etc, etc a bit in order to feel good. Some times you do the things that are wrong to learn what is right for you.

Fractalius
4th July 2013, 01:32
Rescue remedy

Czarek
4th July 2013, 01:55
Try "L-Theanine with green tea". Depending on your body, it will work very well for the first 2 weeks.

Nanoo Nanoo
4th July 2013, 03:09
I have suffered from anxiety in my life as well.

When i looked back on it i deconstructed what it was surrounding me at the time iof this suffering, deeper still as a result of the enviroment i was in , i saw who and what was causing me to create my own anxiety.

I simplifiy anxiety in that it takes two to tango. 1 is the cause or enviroment and 2 is the thought process you use to cope with it. A lot hinges on your emotional investement in number 1 and a lot depends on how you decide to think about it.

I started by just picking one little thing i found gave me anxiety. Eg it was a friend of mine whose life was in danger. I realised later this caused me anxiety because i was trying to help this friend out of his dilemma. I would come hone from his place and feel so anxious about his problems and my in effectiveness of trying to make him see the folley and danger of his ways.

The energy later i realised at his home was off .. i felt un easy the moment i walked into his home. Wether i created this my self from interpretations of danger when being there , i guess makes sence that i did. But it was also the energy of his home .. negative people with not much hope or joy. Couple that feeling with my feeling of help-lessness and you get anxiety ..l mostly because of a fear of focres beyond my control.

My first step was to stop going there , this helped me greatly , it helped me get perspective and dicided the problem wasnt mine anymore.. this was a huge load off. I did not need to take on his problems as if they were my own .. hmm

I then coupled this with exersise and breathing meditation. Before i would do this i would recognise the part in the body i was storing the anxiety .. for me itwas in the tummy .. it differs from person to person.. then when i knew where it was i went about releasing it.

You see Anxiety is mental .. its the result of thought processes that create tension , fear and ultimately anxiety.

I took Magnesium suppliments and St Johns wort.

And i listened to this video ( still do ) at least once a day.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey9c2awWCXg


This video helps you release all the tensions and relax completely.

during the time of the video and time after it when i was relaxing i would pin point what it was i was anxious about and took steps to reduce its effects eith by denying certain mental thoughts that were disruptive or putting my self in a better enviroment.

it boils down to having a command on the thought process ultimately.

here is some info on that

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52533-Mental-Switching-a-deeper-understanding-of-the-mind-body-complex.

and here is some more infor on a breathing technique i developed when i was in the middle f a serious time.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53190-Gul-Ping-Energy-Induction-Method-of-Breathing

there is a lot of info there so you have plenty to get into including all the great articles from the rest here : 0 )

Best of luck , dont give up .. ever : 0 )

Naniu


PS i really liked Tolle's video , wonderful man : 0 )

ThresholdRising
4th July 2013, 03:29
Try and create a new neutral state during meditation or a moment of silence. Take long slow deep breaths (about 8-12 seconds long) and relax every part of your body to the extent that you almost feel space between every cell of your body. After that, start bringing up loving, happy memories and let the feeling radiate through you into the world. Do this for 10-20 minutes a day and really remember the feeling/state.

The next part is a bit tricky but if you do it you will rarely have another attack. Recognise when you are about to have an attack or are having one, the remember the new state you have been working on and feel what it feels like and breath the way you were breathing during this state.

I do suffer from panic attacks meself every now and again and I believe awareness of whats triggering the attacks and working on that to change my perception of it and the feeling it gives me. I know I'm not fully over it yet but this definitely helped alot.

Internal distraction is helpful but finding the root of the problem and altering your perception of it is far more important if you really want fully rid of it.

Wish you best of luck and thanks for the thread.

CD7
4th July 2013, 04:09
awww the sweet and calming effects of burning SAGE

myriaddimension
4th July 2013, 12:39
This is an interesting thread, because I came here to post the same exact topic as I have been suffering from extreme anxiety and panic attack too. Mainly because my life is going exactly the opposite of how I had imagined it to be, but for me meditation helps sometimes. But as soon as I stop meditating or if I am not in a constant flow of energy (doing something or the other), I start thinking of my so-called future and all the things that could go wrong. To be honest, I seem to have no solution and I am stuck in a constant loop of the same scenario playing in my life over and over again. Wish you all the best!

Adi
4th July 2013, 17:37
Hi guys,

Thanks to everyone for your wonderful replys, they mean very much to me and have been an excellent source of information and also comfort. The days can be tough but I am getting trough them, the anxiety and panic feelings are beginning to lighten up, I have allot of work to do in controlling them, with the information provided from the replys I should be just fine. :)

Peace to all and best wish's and again, thank you :)

Adi

onawah
4th July 2013, 22:11
A good article today from Dr Mercola at
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/07/04/13-mind-body-techniques.aspx?e_cid=20130704_DNL_JLY4DNOMIN_JLY4BAN_art_1&utm_source=dnl&utm_medium=email&utm_content=art1&utm_campaign=20130704JLY4DNOMIN
13 Mind-Body Techniques That Can Help Ease Pain and Depression
These techniques should help with panic attacks too.

ulli
5th July 2013, 08:59
http://www.nextworldtv.com/videos/celia-farbers-healing-highlights/high-dose-niacin-cures-depression-and-anxiety-.html

This video claims that high doses of niacin cure depression and anxiety

pine boy
5th July 2013, 09:55
Hey Adi,try hydrating yourself properly before doing anything medical.We had a speaker come to one of my old workplaces and he was on about general health.
His main point was hydration.Dude claimed 95% of people are dehydrated and it causes alot of issues.
His recommended daily alotment was one ounce for every pound of body weight.

I know that seems like alot but as you get older ,look at your hands and you can physically see you need water and might never be thirsty.Like I mentioned before,when I am running low on my intake I feel anxious.Had a buddy tell me the same thing.

I recommend the best water you can find,Around here it's spring water from aquifers.
All the best to you and I hope it gets better