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778 neighbour of some guy
24th July 2013, 13:42
Anyone know what that is and what its for?

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happyexpat
24th July 2013, 13:53
In Canada, they are used to hold your card up against the machine instead of it being swiped at the checkout.

Even if it isn't that type of card, the chip is used to store the same information that is stored on the magnetic stripe.

If you have a passport issued within the last 7 or 8 years, it likely has the same chip in it.

Paul
24th July 2013, 13:56
So far as I can tell, credit cards with an RFID chip will have the following symbol on it (the 4 circular waves marked by the red circle):

http://www.ghacks.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/rfid-credit-card.jpg
Presently, the card(s) that I have from major banks have RFID chips, and the card(s) I have from smaller banks or credit unions do not.

As a result, I do not usually carry those major bank card(s) on my person.

The following video explains more about this, and provides you with one option for disabling the chip in a card:
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778 neighbour of some guy
24th July 2013, 14:08
Thanks Paul, I sure hope they will be polite enough to put the RFID symbols on cards, for all I know they could "accidently forget" to inform us about this, I just checked my passport and you can see the outline of the chip( right upper corner), however..........no mention of the chip, no RFID symbol on it.....so they didn't bother to tell us about it.

I have a creeping suspicion they will not appreciate me punching a small hole on the ID part of my passport.


Bastards.

Tommy
24th July 2013, 14:12
The particular card in the video has something called PayPass, you can see the logo on the card, it is used like happyexpat says.

https://www.paypass.com/

Not very different from what they are starting to do with cell phone payments, here is one article on the subject from this year:
http://www.techhive.com/article/122590/article.html

This trend will (I think) in time take over the traditional way of paying using a standard terminal and cash.

On a slightly different note, notice that all debit/VISA/Mastercard's have a hologram sticker? As some may already know this can be used for programming "functions" using among other things radionics.

Edit to add reg. RFID passport:

Here is how you identify it:

http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/photos/VWPePassportIcon.jpg

778 neighbour of some guy
24th July 2013, 14:18
The particular card in the video has something called PayPass, you can see the logo on the card, it is used like happyexpat says.

https://www.paypass.com/

Not very different from what they are starting to do with cell phone payments, here is one article on the subject from this year:
http://www.techhive.com/article/122590/article.html

This trend will (I think) in time take over the traditional way of paying using a standard terminal and cash.

On a slightly different note, notice that all debit/VISA/Mastercard's have a hologram sticker? As some may already know this can be used for programming "functions" using among other things radionics.

Edit to add reg. RFID passport:

Here is how you identify it:

http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/photos/VWPePassportIcon.jpg

Ah, that symbol is on my passport, so different products get different RFID symbols on them, no fun keeping up with that, yech.

sirdipswitch
24th July 2013, 15:46
I really thought this was common knowledge. We've had this for "many" years now. The big thing about RFID chips, is that they want to put these chips under our skin. Their reasoning being stated is so that our "cards" can't be stollen. However, the biggest scare with an under the skin RFID, is that they have the "technology" to also stop your heart, along with your credit. Plus you can no longer leave your card home, and hide from them. It would also serve as a permanent tracking device. However, if you have a cell phone, you can be tracked. If you carry any, electronic device with you, you can be tracked. Why do you think they haven't given us a RFID chip yet? They don't need it. Most people are now carrying cell phones!!!!!! Plus, they now have the technology to stop your heart, with a satellite, from space!!

We have but one method, by which we may remain safe from "Them".

By returning to our Immortal Spiritual Self.:wizard:

Carmody
24th July 2013, 16:11
You can buy a thin small wallet for your cards that is RF, electrical, and magnetically isolating in nature.

Buy one that is big enough for your cell phone as well, or buy a separate one for the cell phone. The cell phone has to be OFF completely, for this to work. If the cell phone is on standby and put in a isolation device like that, it will scream all the time, trying to connect to a tower, and it will drain it's batteries quite quickly. The cell phone will boots it's signal up to max power, when checking for cell towers, thinking that it is out of range. This search behavior is happening all the time, when the cell phone is 'on' in any way. Or, leave the cell phone at home.

Personal experience teaches me that this will annoy anyone who is set on following you around. They end up having to put bodies in the field which is kinda irritating. And if you have repetitive behavior in your motions, ie same stores, etc, then their 'tail' begins to stick out (seen that guy before, nice cop clothes and haircut, dude!), and they constantly have to rotate new ones in.

Dennis Leahy
24th July 2013, 17:59
...I have a creeping suspicion they will not appreciate me punching a small hole on the ID part of my passport....Wonder what a light tap with a hammer will do?

Dennis

Paul
24th July 2013, 18:00
...I have a creeping suspicion they will not appreciate me punching a small hole on the ID part of my passport....Wonder what a light tap with a hammer will do?

Dennis
How would you test that?

Dennis Leahy
24th July 2013, 18:06
...I have a creeping suspicion they will not appreciate me punching a small hole on the ID part of my passport....Wonder what a light tap with a hammer will do?

Dennis
How would you test that?
http://static3.depositphotos.com/1007298/226/i/950/depositphotos_2265247-Used-hammer-in-hand.jpg

But, you're right, you wouldn't know if the desired effect (loss of tracking ability) had taken place.

Dennis

toad
24th July 2013, 18:12
I have an RFID sniffer for my android I can walk down busy sidewalks and sniff RFID information from quite far away, I'd never get one of these.

RunningDeer
24th July 2013, 19:13
Just back from my test:

I used a hammer and nail on my credit card both the front and the back on the square, and smoothed both sides out with the hammer. Then I went down to my local gas station and used the card at the pump. No problems.

One other tip:

I cut up my 'Stop and Shop' customer's card because I don't want them to track what or how much I purchase. I tell the sales person that I forgot it. They use a generic one and I get the discounts.

This week a sales person showed me the button on the menu screen at the self-check for anyone who 'forgets' their card. For those interested in the gas points, just bring in your card and receipt the next time and they'll update it.


PS I have a sheath for my cards for the last several years. But I'm sure they've figured out how to 'turned up the juice' to data mine or locate.

toad
24th July 2013, 19:19
...I have a creeping suspicion they will not appreciate me punching a small hole on the ID part of my passport....Wonder what a light tap with a hammer will do?

Dennis
How would you test that?

Most phones have the ability to read RFID depending on the RFID.

As for destroying, a microwave should do the trick;

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-blockkill-RFID-chips/step4/How-to-kill-your-RFID-chip/

seehas
24th July 2013, 20:55
there is one simple solution to destroy every rfid chip easy and safe, open your microwave put your creditcard/passport in it set it to full power and let it cicle for 1second and the chip is done.

Violet
24th July 2013, 21:22
there is one simple solution to destroy every rfid chip easy and safe, open your microwave put your creditcard/passport in it set it to full power and let it cicle for 1second and the chip is done.

Microwave my passport...lOL

seehas
24th July 2013, 21:30
but if your dog is chipped with rfid dont put him inside the microwave i would suggest this instead !

http://www.rfidjournal.com/articles/view?2098

778 neighbour of some guy
24th July 2013, 21:52
...I have a creeping suspicion they will not appreciate me punching a small hole on the ID part of my passport....Wonder what a light tap with a hammer will do?

Dennis
How would you test that?

And what is stored on the chip, what exactly is one destroying when tapping, the data must not scan or be at least incomplete or damaged, the difference between a pre tap scan and and after tap scan, should show if this would work.

frozen alchemy
9th August 2013, 19:52
So if you nuke your passport, will you be able to use it? A passport that stops you at the border when you're traveling would be a bit of an issue...not to mention calling undue attention to yourself.