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humbleone
2nd September 2013, 17:45
I had just started taking anti-depressants, prescribed by a former Navy Dr. at the university I attended. Then, it started. I believe my medications were “doped” now in retrospect. Last thing the former Navy Dr. on campus asked me before I left his office for the last time was "did I start hearing the voice of God?". I said, I did not believe in God.

I was in the prime of my life, remarkably accomplished for such a young man, in graduate school earning a degree in solving other peoples’ problems. I was not a threat. I was a pawn to be used like a "meat puppet" I believe now. I did not deserve having my life destroyed. I may have not saved the world, but I was on track to have a good life. I had my undergraduate in political science and was dedicated to helping the higher education community, which I loved.

I had a lot to look forward to if left alone. I was not.

Around that time, Bush was trying to get elected for his second term. We were at war and Sept. the 11th was still fresh in the minds’ of people. After beginning the medications during the 2004 election cycle, voices I could not see started trying to intimidate me. It was coordinated (even in the 3-D world) and at first, very effective. I was frightened, alone and did not know what was going on. It is no small feat that I finished my thesis and earned my degree.

Bush, got elected. The rest is a horrible history of this country. I was able to resist the psychological and spiritual assault as best I could, part of the reason why I earned some respect I believe. If I had gotten shot, it would have been over. If I lost a leg, the pain would have ended. It was much worse. Over eight years now. I am doing exceptionally well today, drug free and living a humble life. Don’t worry I made it; but I want this out there so people know I believe artificial mind control is real and is being used on the innocent.

Over the years, I have grown familiar with voices I can’t see, visions, thought forms, poltergeists, reptilians (no so nice creatures), meeting our “Spacemen”... I have experienced a lot since that election.

In trying to “cure myself” I took all kinds of different psychotropic drugs under medical supervision to no avail; there was no solution in a bottle. I was not crazy, although being driven in that direction. I still heard voices even with the drugs that were supposed to stop them and the drugs, just made things worse. The drugs took the joy out of life essentially.

However, I continued along trying to hold down a job and help people learn to help themselves through education as best I could. It was hard. I was living in “reality” and a hell the voices created at the same time. During the early part of all of this, two benevolent beings (Our Spacemen) gave me two spiritual paths to look into along with some other guide posts. For me, Buddhism and Christianity have served to keep me going. I recommended both perspectives.

I take life day by day, try to stay happy and am thankful for the help I have gotten from the “other side”. Higher consciousnesses saw all this evil being done to me, and helped me. It is a miracle in itself, that I am still alive.

On the upside, now I do believe in God. Life after death? A real thing. God is not artificial, or reptilian. I am like an ant trying to understand humans. Humility is appreciated. I draw on both spiritual perspectives I was given, try to look on the brighter side and enjoy the life I still have.

I don’t know everything. Existence, is complicated. There is much going on beyond 5-senses and 3-dimensions. Here to help. Not crazy; maybe a little confused but getting better. Thoughts? Suggestions? Similar experiences? Advice?

Bill Ryan
2nd September 2013, 18:54
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Do listen to these three interviews with Dr John Hall:


http://projectavalon.net/John_Hall_Feb_8_2010_Hour_1.mp3
http://projectavalon.net/John_Hall_Feb_8_2010_Hour_2.mp3
http://projectavalon.net/John_Hall_Feb_8_2010_Hour_3.mp3


Dr John Hall's website:
http://satweapons.com

His Coast to Coast AM profile:
http://coasttocoastam.com/guest/hall-dr-john/43636

humbleone
2nd September 2013, 19:04
Thank you kindly, Mr. Ryan. I checked out his profile, makes sense. Sadly, makes sense.

Bill Ryan
2nd September 2013, 19:12
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Dr John Hall has collected literally thousands of case studies of people who have reported hearing voices in their heads who are unwilling experimentees (sometimes called 'Targeted Individuals, or 'TIs'). There's a support group on his site.

Your most heart-rending story also suggests that you may be exceptionally sensitive and perceptive (an 'open portal'). This can easily feel like a curse, but may be a blessing -- if you can harness it. It depends if the 'voices' are real, or artificially induced for reasons unknown.

karelia
2nd September 2013, 19:14
Rock on, 3generations! I love your new avatar!!!

The most important thing is, you are healing. They couldn't break you. They maybe nearly did, but they failed, and you didn't. Remind yourself of that in those moments of despair. In the end, good will always win over evil.

Much love to you.

humbleone
2nd September 2013, 20:00
See below.

humbleone
2nd September 2013, 20:07
The visions, easy to tell the difference between organic and artificial. The voices? Harder to tell. There some help in who is using one or the other of these, organic or otherwise (thank you Christianity). It may not always be this simple, but it helps:

Sin - Virtue
Lust (excessive sexual appetites) - Chastity (purity)
Gluttony (over-indulgence) - Temperance (self-restraint)
Greed (avarice) - Charity (giving)
Sloth (laziness/idleness) - Diligence (zeal/integrity/Labor)
Wrath (anger) - Forgiveness (composure)
Envy (jealousy) - Kindness (admiration)
Pride (vanity) - Humility (humbleness)[/QUOTE]

johnf
2nd September 2013, 20:14
If I had gotten shot, it would have been over. If I lost a leg, the pain would have ended. It was much worse. Over eight years now. I am doing exceptionally well today, drug free and living a humble life. Don’t worry I made it; but I want this out there so people know I believe artificial mind control is real and is being used on the innocent.

For me, Buddhism and Christianity have served to keep me going. I recommended both perspectives.



On the upside, now I do believe in God. Life after death? A real thing. God is not artificial, or reptilian. I am like an ant trying to understand humans. Humility is appreciated. I draw on both spiritual perspectives I was given, try to look on the brighter side and enjoy the life I still have.

I don’t know everything. Existence, is complicated. There is much going on beyond 5-senses and 3-dimensions. Here to help. Not crazy; maybe a little confused but getting better. Thoughts? Suggestions? Similar experiences? Advice?

I have left in what I consider to be your fine accomplishments, and rewards for enduring a nightmarish experience.

You seem to have gathered some truths that can serve you well in the future, and developed some strategies that work along those lines.

The fact that you see value in both the Buddhist, and Christian perspectives shows that you can
deal with differing viewpoints, and won't be stuck in the limitations of just one path.

My tendency is to explore as many avenues as I can with the time allotted.

I have found these threads invaluable as far as making sure my view is sufficiently wide to avoid writing
off things that might help me or others.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?860-Enlightenment-The-Ego-what-is-it-How-to-transcend-it.&highlight=enlightenment

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?61859-The-real-Jesus-the-real-Mary-Gnosis-the-Archons-and-the-world-s-first-major-smear-campaign&highlight=jesus

These threads are focused on expanding ones overall spiritual perspective and practice.
Sometimes the mind control techniques have been institutionalized into religious and philosophical systems.
And the Real Jesus discussion is an in depth study of the origins of christianity, and how it seems to have been derailed, as well as pointing out the great truths that still exist in it.

jf

humbleone
2nd September 2013, 20:15
The visions, easy to tell the difference between organic and artificial. The voices? Harder to tell. There some help in who is using one or the other of these, organic or otherwise (thank you Christianity). It may not always be this simple, but it helps:

Sin - Virtue
Lust (excessive sexual appetites) - Chastity (purity)
Gluttony (over-indulgence) - Temperance (self-restraint)
Greed (avarice) - Charity (giving)
Sloth (laziness/idleness) - Diligence (zeal/integrity/Labor)
Wrath (anger) - Forgiveness (composure)
Envy (jealousy) - Kindness (admiration)
Pride (vanity) - Humility (humbleness)[/QUOTE]


Wait, maybe it is that simple.

Heard: "It is that simple," confirmation from another source. <3

humbleone
2nd September 2013, 23:58
Voices that use accusations, not good, working with evil. Higher & loving consciousnesses, aware, don't accuse. Simple. Oh and something I learned from studying Buddhism about gossip, it is a source of suffering and is to be avoided. Humans do it, and most don't hear about it but in lower planes with beings without bodies (BWOBs) it is used as a form of torture and a means of control.

Andre
3rd September 2013, 00:28
As of 22 August 2013, the 4D influences you have been under have been removed. This was a global effort, born out of love that transmuted the influences that you and millions of others have been exposed to. It is gone. I have no doubt that you now have the ability to feel like a weight has been lifted. Now, it is time to give up the beliefs that you are still subject to these voices. You are not. It is gone and it is only your belief that it is still with you that can now perpetuate it. With much love and hope for your future ...

humbleone
3rd September 2013, 00:48
With humble thanks Andre and yes, getting better. :-)

Paul
3rd September 2013, 01:09
It is gone and it is only your belief that it is still with you that can now perpetuate it.
Ah - so if our futures are not filled with love and hope, it's our fault, for not believing that hate and desperation had been removed.

I choose to disagree with the view I read in your words.

gripreaper
3rd September 2013, 01:28
As of 22 August 2013, the 4D influences you have been under have been removed.

Oh good, but just the 4D? What about the 5D and 6D agenda's still based in duality? Are they still functioning? What happened on Aug 22nd?


This was a global effort, born out of love that transmuted the influences that you and millions of others have been exposed to. It is gone.

Me and millions of others? Who was included and who was excluded? Who organized the global effort and who was involved?


I have no doubt that you now have the ability to feel like a weight has been lifted. Now, it is time to give up the beliefs that you are still subject to these voices. You are not. It is gone and it is only your belief that it is still with you that can now perpetuate it. With much love and hope for your future ...

I don't feel any weight either way, lifting or otherwise. Could you expand on what beliefs I should be working on that are still with me, since I can't feel any weight lifting?

Thanks in advance for your sage advice.

PurpleLama
3rd September 2013, 01:31
It is gone and it is only your belief that it is still with you that can now perpetuate it.
Ah - so if our futures are not filled with love and hope, it's our fault, for not believing that hate and desperation had been removed.

I choose to disagree with the view I read in your words.

A wise observation for one who tries to pretend sometimes to not be all that chock full o' wisdom. Awesome :cow:

Sammy
3rd September 2013, 03:22
It is gone and it is only your belief that it is still with you that can now perpetuate it.
Ah - so if our futures are not filled with love and hope, it's our fault, for not believing that hate and desperation had been removed.

I choose to disagree with the view I read in your words.

IMO - good call, Paul.

My concern is that folks who gravitate to whatever resource from which they acquire this type of info are actually agents for the very forces behind the mind hacking technology. In most cases, they are unaware the source has malevolent intentions. It is too easy for some to buy into the messianic complex and I can speak of this because I am speaking from experience. Ascended Master programming (rampant these days and can be found on Avalon) - Ashtar Command type garbage, etc.


Anyways, thanks for catching this asap.

nomadguy
3rd September 2013, 04:21
Voices that use accusations, not good, working with evil. Higher & loving consciousnesses, aware, don't accuse. Simple. Oh and something I learned from studying Buddhism about gossip, it is a source of suffering and is to be avoided. Humans do it, and most don't hear about it but in lower planes with beings without bodies (BWOBs) it is used as a form of torture and a means of control.

Question, did this "harassment" ever come in the form of these voices criticizing whatever are doing at a particular given moment? Or simply talking about your activities as you are doing them?

humbleone
3rd September 2013, 10:13
Still, getting some interference I must say even tonight. I am getting unusual requests recently, whereas the beings that helped me didn't ask for anything beyond...It seems some are trying to control the dialogue. Disappointing.

"Question, did this "harassment" ever come in the form of these voices criticizing whatever are doing at a particular given moment? Or simply talking about your activities as you are doing them?" Both.

humbleone
3rd September 2013, 18:14
Be careful with computer speakers when listening to music if dealing with "voices". We recommend regular stereos.

etheric underground
4th September 2013, 17:49
Your picture of the shining heart is a gracious step in the internalization and understanding of this crazy game we called 3d life.....
What often fogs our interpretation is our mind and all the external components that affect and persuade that. As many of us here can
contest it is the feeling from the heart not the over analytical ramblings of our mind that leads us to a more purposeful and effective
placement in the game.... I have learnt to let my big heart provide me with the answers ...not my over active head...
Humble one your story is intriguing and insightful and sad and motivational.....LET YOUR HEART FLOW AND THE SUN SHINE MY FRIEND!!!