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Fred Steeves
4th September 2013, 11:08
Last night while I was making dinner, an idea popped into my head. Nothing profound or anything, just something to do with a tricky wood floor I'm in the process of laying. What struck me though was the simple act of actually noticing that it had occurred, and observing it.

It wasn't there just a few seconds ago, and now it is. I wasn't even thinking about work, yet suddenly this thought appears that will make a problem not so much of a problem any more. Where did it come from?

We all do this of course, but how often do we pause and look at it? Every time we have an idea, it's a brand new creation that was not on this planet before. This is what Creators do, they have an idea, and then act to bring the idea into physical manifestation. Isn't it just amazing that we tend to take this for granted?

If we invoke the Hermetic axiom "as above so below, as below so above", it informs us that if we have an idea to make a floor lay better, then we can have an idea to make *anything* go better as well. Once again, this is what Creators do, but we've forgotten how to make things happen at the higher levels. Or, we're intimidated, and don't think we can actually do it...

And there lies the trick huh?

So then, are ideas always a good thing to implement? Well of course not! (LOL) But Creators are free to create as they please. This is yet another tricky trickster. Even if/when we overcome the hurdle of confidence that we can cause ideas to manifest, at any level, should we do it?

Back to the question of where do ideas come from. It's simple enough to not act on the aberrant ideas that we have from time to time, and wherever those kinds of ideas come from, it's obvious they don't come from a very good place. Other times though, it's not so easy.

This is where different factors come into play. Experience, discernment, insight, etc. Perhaps we may even get a little "tingle" from our genetic memory, softly echoing that we have done this same thing before in the eons gone by, and it either did, or didn't work out so well. The deeper and more diligently we observe, the wiser our decisions, and the more useful our Creations.

The old Chinese saying comes to mind: "Careful what you wish for"...

Anyway, these are my morning coffee ponderings. Gotta go finish that floor now. :)

Cheers,

Fred

Sérénité
4th September 2013, 11:22
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Hey Fred! Dont forget to leave a gap around the edges for expansion ;)

music
4th September 2013, 11:28
We all need gaps - the only two things that don't expand are the closed mind, and the closed heart :)

Sérénité
4th September 2013, 11:40
We all need gaps - the only two things that don't expand are the closed mind, and the closed heart :)

Ive missed reading the valuable input from your open mind...thanks for returning from your break gap :)

Ultima Thule
4th September 2013, 11:43
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW5EiGwi_a8
Don't know where they come from but here's discernment...

UT

Akasha
4th September 2013, 11:47
.....If we invoke the Hermetic axiom "as above so below, as below so above", it informs us that if we have an idea to make a floor lay better, then we can have an idea to make.....

.....the ceiling better, surely?!!!

jiminii
4th September 2013, 11:47
from old world yes we have already done it. Why? because we tend to operate on the recordings we've been recording for eons. The thing about NEW coming from future is THERE IS NO RECORDINGS. So any thought created from those coming from the future wouldn't be created from past recorded failures. And the amazing thing about it is this, they are created from the same spirit beings with the exception that these do not have an automatic picture recording memory.
now I can say there IS SOMETHING NEW. and I am NOT THE ONLY ONE SAYING IT. We have created NEW states of being. For ONE, BEING able to GO COMPLETELY out of the physical universe and pop back into ANOTHER TIME and be able to OPERATE at that time and change any of the patterns if we want which will ripple through to the future and THIS IS NEW.

We have never been able to do this before but we are doing it now from the future.

jim

Asyloth
4th September 2013, 12:12
This is exactly what I needed ;)

Thx

markpierre
4th September 2013, 12:28
I know, it's weird Fred. We have to be distracted from thinking to be able to hear anything.
Kind of a nice indication of how crazy it is to be listening to the static that goes on in there,
once we've heard full-fidelity.

S-L
4th September 2013, 13:00
Excellent post. If humanity at large can unlock the capacity to be more connected to the universe, or God, or whatever terminology you may prefer, then greater things can happen. Have you noticed that most of humanity is propelled forward by a relatively small number of people? We all have the innate capacity to contribute something great and meaningful, and yet most of us are lost in the daily turbulence of fulfilling desires.

In my spiritual practice, we call this "inspiration". It's the ability to still your mind and open yourself to receiving guidance. Ideas can more naturally flow into your mind, as if by magic. These ideas come from your spiritual family, the angelic presence, or perhaps even your Spirit. In your case you were laying down floors. By focusing on doing something very specific, you create an opening in your mind as the focus ceases the constant stream of meaningless thoughts your mind likes to throw around.

This is why meditation is so useful. It's not just about stress relief or better living. You teach your mind to become more receptive. If one can bring that meditativeness into everyday life, then these ideas can slip into one's mind throughout one's day. This provides guidance and allows you to avoid error. Those that progress far enough into this practice will be increasingly unlikely to make mistakes as they are directly guided from above. That is the true aim of every spiritual practice.




"Stillness of mind allows a Greater Mind to emerge and to reveal its Wisdom. Those who cultivate stillness with a desire for Knowledge will be preparing themselves for greater revelation and true insight to emerge."[source (http://www.newmessage.org/nmfg/Steps_to_Knowledge.html)]

GaelVictor
4th September 2013, 13:26
Isn't that what some call "the Zone", i believe we pay huge amounts of money to footballers(i refuse to use the weird 'soccer', who came up with that anyway..:rolleyes:) to perform their highly creative gamestyle on the field by "being in the Zone". It's high concentration without pressure, i think there is a type of brainwave associated with it. It must have some connection with quantum physics, where a particle can have a superposition, meaning it can be anywhere at anytime. But the one looking at the particle, becoming aware of it, decides where and how it will manifest.

Star Mariner
4th September 2013, 13:33
Good ideas are but whispers from higher realms...

Hazel
4th September 2013, 13:37
Any child in play or artist with 'muse'/anyone in the zone of self-forgeting for that matter... is in this arbitrary space between knowing and not knowing where 'the idea' emerges as something fresh, yet intangibly familiar...

Therein the sweet magic of co-creation with existence, which is to be celebrated and never underestimated...

S-L
4th September 2013, 13:44
Isn't that what some call "the Zone", i believe we pay huge amounts of money to footballers(i refuse to use the weird 'soccer', who came up with that anyway..:rolleyes:) to perform their highly creative gamestyle on the field by "being in the Zone". It's high concentration without pressure, i think there is a type of brainwave associated with it. It must have some connection with quantum physics, where a particle can have a superposition, meaning it can be anywhere at anytime. But the one looking at the particle, becoming aware of it, decides where and how it will manifest.

A great book about this is "The Little Book of Talent" by Daniel Coyle. He goes into the science behind it, but more importantly he devises a number of "rules" one can follow to get into that zone.

Lifebringer
4th September 2013, 13:51
It's why I think Mother Earth expands as the population grows. I mean if I was the Creator and said: "Be ye fruitful and multiply," I would have planned for Earth expansion based upon population. ONLY the corporations buying everything up, means no matter the size, they want a submissive confused ignorant to their deeds population.

Tough on them, we have other plans, thank God.

CD7
4th September 2013, 13:53
Well my morning coffee answerings :) .....I love your 'idea' related to creativity! If we were ALL operating in creation mode this planet would be unrecognizable

They say were creating by our thoughts--- sad thing is we have not been trained/cultivated to ENGINEER our thoughts into reality. With no training... WE are high powered race cars driving runamuck. So not much happens JUST a lot of accidents....

OUR creative POTENTIAL is FKIN unbelievable....it truly is The way for this to really be in action in our world is for everything to be rebuilt from the foundation up....the foundation now is not set up for this FRUITFULNESS-----although something seems to be altering in the foundation

RMorgan
4th September 2013, 13:55
Hey Fred,

Well, our brainīs "operational system" works very similarly to a computerīs. Weīre multi-tasking beings.

When we have a problem to solve, itīs way better to let your brain solve it as a "background process", instead of consciously thinking about it 24 hours a day. I call this process "unconscious maturation".

The more expertise we have accumulate about a subject, the more it gets easier for the brain to figure out solutions in a way thatīs apparently effortless.

You know, being creative is hard work. Ideas just flow easily if the brain has enough relative data to solidly combine into what I call "embryo idea".

A few years ago I made a study about this subject, trying to understand how my specific creative process works and to create some sort of creative methodology for myself; Itīs targeted to my field, which is Industrial Design, and itīs very personal, but maybe you want to take a look:



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The feet/root

1-Every design starts motivated by something, when someone has a creative essence within. This creative essence is very often connected to relieving anxiety. A design might be motivated, in a basic level, by an independent source (inside) or by an external briefing (outside, client).
2- Then, with an active reason to create something, I start seeking inspiration. If Iīm creating motivated by an independent/inside source, my creative starting point very commonly starts from an insight, or an early notion of how this idea should be transformed, how itīs supposed to be translated to the real, tangible world. If Iīm creating motivated by an external source, I usually try finding a central theme for the design, which must fit like a glove to the clients/brand identity/philosophy.
3-Now I have a vague notion of what this idea should become, whatīs the story itīs supposed to tell. Every good product must be constructed over a good foundation, substructure. I call it an Embryo Idea. Itīs like and universal intangible material, which may be transformed in everything, literally.

The torso/body

Now itīs time to find an empty flask, where I could pour the Embryo Idea and give it a justified form, shape. The liquid (Embryo Idea) must fit perfectly inside this flask, without overflowing.
Mental Sketching:
Is, obviously, the process of using the full power of your mind to generate every possible form and shape for the idea without touching a pencil or paper. Itīs not easy to teach your brain to do that correctly, but once you get used to it, it becomes a very powerful tool. Letīs say that, if you are a very good physical sketcher, you can do 20 drawings in 10 minutes. If youīre a very good Mental Sketcher, you can draw 1.000.000.000 possibilities in the same 10 minutes, just as an example.
Teachers and companies overate the physical sketching process a lot, and they are partially right, because they canīt see inside your mind, so they need to see something to evaluate. But at this part of the creative process, only you need to know what youīre doing. Physically sketching your ideas will delay and limit your creative process and potential a lot.
So give up on those old habits and start exploring the real, limitless blank canvas, which is your mind. Leave those nice and fancy sketches for later, just to impress your teachers or clients.
Oh! How does Mental Sketching works? Almost like meditation! Close your eyes, find a relaxing position, concentrate on the Embryo Idea and let the thoughts run freely.
Unconscious Maturation:
When you just canīt shape the Embryo Idea the way you want, you are living a creative crisis.
Donīt worry! When creativity becomes a profession, it usually happens from time to time. The secret to get out of it unharmed is just to forget it. Donīt overestimate a creative crisis, or it will become a monster.
Unconscious Maturation is a process that I use to reverse this situation to my advantage.
When you just canīt develop an Embryo Idea properly, do just like computers do: Let it work by itself on the background. Your unconscious will eventually find a perfect solution for it!
The secret is get used to practice an exercise that I call Think/Forget.
Start thinking about the Embryo Idea several times a day (without really worrying about it) and, almost at the same time you think about it, forget it. With practice, you will start thinking and forgetting about something at the same perceivable space of time.
When you practice the Think/Forget, you are just fooling you conscious, making it believe that the idea has really been forgotten, but your unconscious, perceiving that youīre thinking a lot about this subject, gives it a hight priority classification, and starts working on it 24/7.
Practice it specially before going to bed.
Middle Insight:
The middle insight is just an insight that happens in the middle of the subjective creative process. Itīs like a bonus that comes from my mind from time to time, and makes me very happy! :)
Background Queuing System (BQS):
The BQS is completely rooted on the Unconscious Maturations process and itīs the key to keep having good ideas all the time.
When you have several Embryo Ideas, most people work on one idea at a time. This is absolutely a waste of creative potential.
If youīre working on an Embryo Idea right now, do the Think/Forget exercise with the other Embryo Ideas several times a day. Your unconscious will work on them frenetically and will try to connect every fragment of inspirational material that you collect from your everyday life to one of them.
I usually canīt work on more than seven Embryo Ideas at the same time, but this number already give me the guarantee that Iīll keep my creative motor running at full speed.
If I have more than seven Embryo Ideas, the rest goes to the white board, shaped as keywords.
White Board Key Words Fixation (WKF):
The name says pretty much all about it. Just get yourself a white board and write down every extra Embryo Idea you have, summarizing them in three or four keywords each.
Keep this white board on a place that youīll naturally look at it a couple of times a day, but donīt worry very much about reading it all the time. Make it part of your environment, so you donīt even notice it.
Your unconscious will started working on those key words at an even deeper level.

The Head

Now you have some initial formal possibilities.
Mental resting:
If youīve done a nice work until now, you might be tired and need some rest, to replenish your creative fuel.
Take your time and do something you like. Personally, I like playing music, watching documentaries, reading books, working on DIY projects...
Conscious Maturation:
Once you are ready, start thinking aggressively about the initial formal possibilities of the Embryo Idea. Think A LOT about everything practical. Ask yourself questions and try to find a reason for every possible formal details. Trust your heart, because it will tell you when youīre done. Pay attention to chills, because they are a very reliable sign that youīre going on the right way.
Late Insight:
The ultimate gift from the creative Gods!
You know when youīve received it when you have one of those "why I didnīt think about it before" moments.
Sometimes it might be just a consequence of the whole process. Sometimes it just might happen in mysterious ways. Who knows...
Obvious Solution/Relief:
Now that the hardest part of the work is done, itīs time to make some models, physical sketches, 3D renderings, material and production choices or whatever technique you want to see how your solution will behave in the real world and to make it feasible.
All that anxiety is gone...Everything starts to get really boring again, so itīs time get it back and start it all over again.

Cheers,

Raf.

markpierre
4th September 2013, 13:59
I like how the universe bombards us with solutions, and the self identity takes credit for them.

turiya
4th September 2013, 14:23
Good post, Fred - thank you.


Last night while I was making dinner, an idea popped into my head. Nothing profound or anything, just something to do with a tricky wood floor I'm in the process of laying. What struck me though was the simple act of actually noticing that it had occurred, and observing it.

It wasn't there just a few seconds ago, and now it is. I wasn't even thinking about work, yet suddenly this thought appears that will make a problem not so much of a problem any more. Where did it come from?

We all do this of course, but how often do we pause and look at it?



Originality in thinking is not possible. Originality in being is possible. You can be original, but you cannot think originally. Being can be original, thought cannot be original. Thinkers are never original, only no-thinkers are original. Deep inside, if you attain to emptiness, you will be original. Out of that emptiness whatsoever arises is always new.

It is impossible, absolutely impossible to have an original thought. Because mind is memory, mind is the past, mind is that which has been already known, it is a borrowed thing, and whatsoever the mind can do can only be a repetition; new combinations of words, notions, concepts; but deep down all will be borrowed. Mind can never be original. The very nature of the mind is such – it is a bio-computer. Before it can give you something, you have to feed information into it.

Thoughts cannot be original, only you, because you belong to the very source. You were there in the beginning, and you will be there in the end, because you are existence. Thinking is a learned thing. You can learn it, you can unlearn it. It is acquired. You can drop it any day you want to drop it.

But your nature, what Lao Tzu calls Tao, your original nature, is not acquired, it has always been there, it is the source. -- Talking Tao, Chapter 6 (Emphasis mine.)

I have heard or read somewhere that Albert Einstein used to have his most profound revelations while he was taking a bubble bath. Sometimes he would sit in the bathtub for long periods of time just playing with soap bubbles... it was at these moments that he would have some of his most profound insights. Not that he got these insights from his thinking, but because his thinking mind was not working.

When children are playing, they are not working for some future goal. Playfulness happens in the now with no future, with no goal to attain in the future. There is no gap between the means & the end. In playing, the means & the end are the same.

Somehow, Fred, while you were making dinner, in that doing, you must have slipped out of the mind, into the space of no future goal to attain, and for an instant slipped into the originality of your being. This is how insight functions. It happens in a flash. The instant download occurs. It happens in moments when there is no expectation.



turiya :cool:

sleepy
4th September 2013, 15:58
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Richard S.
4th September 2013, 16:28
Last night while I was making dinner, an idea popped into my head. Nothing profound or anything, just something to do with a tricky wood floor I'm in the process of laying. What struck me though was the simple act of actually noticing that it had occurred, and observing it.

It wasn't there just a few seconds ago, and now it is. I wasn't even thinking about work, yet suddenly this thought appears that will make a problem not so much of a problem any more. Where did it come from?

We all do this of course, but how often do we pause and look at it? Every time we have an idea, it's a brand new creation that was not on this planet before. This is what Creators do, they have an idea, and then act to bring the idea into physical manifestation. Isn't it just amazing that we tend to take this for granted?

If we invoke the Hermetic axiom "as above so below, as below so above", it informs us that if we have an idea to make a floor lay better, then we can have an idea to make *anything* go better as well. Once again, this is what Creators do, but we've forgotten how to make things happen at the higher levels. Or, we're intimidated, and don't think we can actually do it...

And there lies the trick huh?

So then, are ideas always a good thing to implement? Well of course not! (LOL) But Creators are free to create as they please. This is yet another tricky trickster. Even if/when we overcome the hurdle of confidence that we can cause ideas to manifest, at any level, should we do it?

Back to the question of where do ideas come from. It's simple enough to not act on the aberrant ideas that we have from time to time, and wherever those kinds of ideas come from, it's obvious they don't come from a very good place. Other times though, it's not so easy.

This is where different factors come into play. Experience, discernment, insight, etc. Perhaps we may even get a little "tingle" from our genetic memory, softly echoing that we have done this same thing before in the eons gone by, and it either did, or didn't work out so well. The deeper and more diligently we observe, the wiser our decisions, and the more useful our Creations.

The old Chinese saying comes to mind: "Careful what you wish for"...

Anyway, these are my morning coffee ponderings. Gotta go finish that floor now. :)

Cheers,

Fred

Can I throw a curve ball here?


Something has bothered me for the longest time, and I still fail to explain it.

I am a loving although not perfect person, but I do want the better for my fellow humans, and I always stop to help in case of emergency, or if someone beckons a call for help, I am ALL-WAYS the first there.

My question is about thoughts, dark ones, the ones that seem to enter your mind from nowhere, yet are not of your nature. They can be anything, from thinking bad about someone to actually having visions of physical harm being done to someone.

Where do they come from?

When I do get one of those bad thoughts, nowadays, I remain still, attempt to analyse the situation and explain why? Yet, to no avail.

Am I alone here?

Why, why, why?

I do not want these to manifest, they are not of my nature, yet, they stop me dead in my tracks, for I cannot explain...

Thanks for reading me,

Rick

Spiral of Light
4th September 2013, 18:56
Am I alone here? Why, why, why?

I do not want these to manifest, they are not of my nature, yet, they stop me dead in my tracks, for I cannot explain...

Thanks for reading me,

Rick

You are not alone, Rick. I've wondered the same thing myself. I consider myself to be a good, service-to-others oriented, peace-loving person who wants only the best for all concerned, BUT I have also occasionally experienced the dark thoughts you mention. I always wonder where they might coming from. It's not my nature, either. The existence of this 'darkness' has always puzzled me.

I have looked at these thoughts in the past... 'thoughts that seem to enter your mind from nowhere and yet are not of your nature' ...and have simply pushed them away, feeling that maybe I am experiencing random feelings from a darker side of me that I am, hopefully, moving away from. But, could they be thoughts from somewhere/someone else entirely?

Thanks for sharing this subject and your experience with it.

Tesla_WTC_Solution
4th September 2013, 19:39
Someone on Natural News recently posted an article about "the Dark Side" of the psyche, it's worth a read if you want to know where the bad stuff comes from!

Ernie Nemeth
4th September 2013, 20:57
That is a very thoughtful thought, Fred.

I too wonder at the ability to manifest thought in my daily life. And like Lovespot above, I have difficulty understanding my tendancy to manifest seemingly negative situations. Yet it seems that it is those very experiences that have the most to offer me, in terms of understanding myself. As I correct those aberrant thoughts I seem to be able to create more to my liking every day. And it seems to be a logarithmic curve, not linear. So the process speeds up, faster and faster.

Thing is, sometimes the curve is too steep and I fall back. But even this is but an opportunity to reassess, reconstitute, reprioritize. It is exactly this that makes me stronger, hopefully wiser and better equiped to take a steeper experiential learning curve.

So that would be like the longer you're at it the easier it gets.

Fred Steeves
4th September 2013, 21:54
So yeah, obviously our aberrant thoughts are fairly easy to spot. Many would say that these thoughts are via Archonic influences, but I would take that even a step further. See I'm not even sure where the separation may lie between Archon type influences, and our own ancient reservoir of unresolved muckity mucks. But either way, at least these are usually recognizable. Like, if I'm driving on a mountain road, and suddenly get the urge to veer off the road, that's an easy no no.

What's *not* so easy, are the ones that seem like a pretty good idea, but in the end really aren't. Becoming an unwitting enabler would be a classic example, meaning well, but actually just making things worse than they already were. This holds true for our creations as well, like the old saying goes: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions". Causing a flood when trying to end a drought would be an example of careless manifestation.

It can be tricky business, and this might rub a lot of people the wrong way, but the genesis of Creation is everything. It probably doesn't really matter that much for the average Joe 6 pack, because their creative abilities are laying basically dormant. But, the more one remembers how to do this stuff, which is our birth right, the more the tremendous burden of responsibility bears on their Spiritual shoulders as well.

With power comes responsibility, and the more attuned we are in our power, the more we are held accountable as well.

Richard S.
4th September 2013, 22:09
So yeah, obviously our aberrant thoughts are fairly easy to spot. Many would say that these thoughts are via Archonic influences, but I would take that even a step further. See I'm not even sure where the separation may lie between Archon type influences, and our own ancient reservoir of unresolved muckity mucks. But either way, at least these are usually recognizable. Like, if I'm driving on a mountain road, and suddenly get the urge to veer off the road, that's an easy no no.

What's *not* so easy, are the ones that seem like a pretty good idea, but in the end really aren't. Becoming an unwitting enabler would be a classic example, meaning well, but actually just making things worse than they already were. This holds true for our creations as well, like the old saying goes: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions". Causing a flood when trying to end a drought would be an example of careless manifestation.

It can be tricky business, and this might rub a lot of people the wrong way, but the genesis of Creation is everything. It probably doesn't really matter that much for the average Joe 6 pack, because their creative abilities are laying basically dormant. But, the more one remembers how to do this stuff, which is our birth right, the more the tremendous burden of responsibility bears on their Spiritual shoulders as well.

With power comes responsibility, and the more attuned we are in our power, the more we are held accountable as well.

Gotcha on the veering thing, I know what you mean, strange thing that we get those thoughts though.

Another example:

I've got a bunch of tress on my lot that need to be taken down to secure the house.

Dilemma: Why should I shorten the life of these tress just to make my existence that much more comfortable and secure???

These are the ones that become difficult, and as so far, I have not cut one down that hasn't leaned towards dying, if I see roots underneath popping out, then I cut it down. Otherwise, I just let them be, so far, since my dilemma continues.

Food for thought: Archon is merely old Greek meaning "Master or Ruler". It's funny to me that we have labeled something we know so little about.

judymoon
5th September 2013, 03:44
So yeah, obviously our aberrant thoughts are fairly easy to spot. Many would say that these thoughts are via Archonic influences, but I would take that even a step further. See I'm not even sure where the separation may lie between Archon type influences, and our own ancient reservoir of unresolved muckity mucks. But either way, at least these are usually recognizable. Like, if I'm driving on a mountain road, and suddenly get the urge to veer off the road, that's an easy no no.

What's *not* so easy, are the ones that seem like a pretty good idea, but in the end really aren't. Becoming an unwitting enabler would be a classic example, meaning well, but actually just making things worse than they already were. This holds true for our creations as well, like the old saying goes: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions". Causing a flood when trying to end a drought would be an example of careless manifestation.

It can be tricky business, and this might rub a lot of people the wrong way, but the genesis of Creation is everything. It probably doesn't really matter that much for the average Joe 6 pack, because their creative abilities are laying basically dormant. But, the more one remembers how to do this stuff, which is our birth right, the more the tremendous burden of responsibility bears on their Spiritual shoulders as well.

With power comes responsibility, and the more attuned we are in our power, the more we are held accountable as well.

Indeed! I have grabbled with that myself. The example you gave of being an unwitting enabler is very apt. How to discern 'right action'. It's so easy to talk ourselves into believing it's right because it fits our (maybe unconcious) agenda.

I sometimes feel that one of the lessons I came to learn is to be able to be 'there' with a person or animal who is suffering, whom I can't help, but I can sit with in open-hearted compassion. This is so hard for me, as I want to fix everything! I can feel so overwhelmed and angry at the suffering this planet seems to manufacture, that I lose my spiritual connection.

It must indicate great spiritual maturity when you no longer get psychically assalted by suffering. I want to get there someday. But that is another topic.

I love when my mind is quiet enougn for answers to 'pop' through. I used to meditate a lot when I was younger and I had many experiences. I'm not looking for experiences anymore. I love the quiet and sense of peace that comes when my mind is still.

I have been thinking about attention and intention lately.

Attention is very powerful. When I really focus on a person or situation, I feel like I connect to them. Attention combined with intention is like a mental laser beam. You know that experience of sitting in a restaurant or other public place and finding yourself staring at someone..and all the sudden they look right at you.

Or your thinking of someone and they call, text, or e-mail you at that moment.

And there is some attention you definately don't want.

So there is probably good reason to discipline your thoughts and guide where your attention goes.

The minds 'job' is to generate thoughts. Which means it is not 'me', it's a tool for 'me' to use. And it's a pretty complex and multi-layered. It takes skill and discipline to learn how to use it effectively.

I think its easy when your are following a spiritual path to judge your progress by how positive everything in your life is. Your thoughts, your experiences, your relationships etc.

I just don't think that's the goal. Nor is the attainment of spiritual power. I think power needs to be handled very carefully. Its so easy to feed the ego.

Sometimes I hope that my spiritual/personal growth and learning will eventually land me on a planetary councel of some sort. Ha! Like the UN of this part of the galaxy.

Where no one person uses their personal power to make decisions that will effect entire civilazations without consensus.

I don't think you can guage your spiritual progress by the amount of suffering you avoid.

I think you can gauge it by your reaction to it.

Ok - that's enough rambling around.

Cool thread, Fred

Thanks for starting it.

Fred Steeves
5th September 2013, 11:06
I sometimes feel that one of the lessons I came to learn is to be able to be 'there' with a person or animal who is suffering, whom I can't help, but I can sit with in open-hearted compassion. This is so hard for me, as I want to fix everything! I can feel so overwhelmed and angry at the suffering this planet seems to manufacture, that I lose my spiritual connection.


Hi there Judy. Yeah, I know what you mean. That's why I really appreciate it when I cry, it let's me know that the connection is still there, maybe even stronger than ever. Maybe that's part of learning a bit of humility as well. Just sit, and be with the suffering.



I love when my mind is quiet enougn for answers to 'pop' through. I used to meditate a lot when I was younger and I had many experiences. I'm not looking for experiences anymore. I love the quiet and sense of peace that comes when my mind is still.

Same here. I've had the experiences, some quite amazing and profound, but there's more to it than that isn't there? Those experiences are a wonderful thing, like little miracles, showing us there's more to things than meets the every day eye. But pursuing those experiences is a trap.



Attention is very powerful. When I really focus on a person or situation, I feel like I connect to them. Attention combined with intention is like a mental laser beam. You know that experience of sitting in a restaurant or other public place and finding yourself staring at someone..and all the sudden they look right at you.

Or your thinking of someone and they call, text, or e-mail you at that moment.

And there is some attention you definately don't want.

So there is probably good reason to discipline your thoughts and guide where your attention goes.

Agreed!


I don't think you can guage your spiritual progress by the amount of suffering you avoid.

I think you can gauge it by your reaction to it.


And maybe that's just one of the things we are here to (finally) accomplish. Here's a weird thing Judy. See, I think/feel that we've been down this same exact road many many times, and have miserably failed in a wide variety of ways. Maybe this time is different, it feels like it anyway...

Cheers,

Fred

Christine
5th September 2013, 13:10
For me it comes down to one point of consciousness... understanding that we are creating ALL the time. The question for me has long been, just how conscious AM I of that Creation and my participation in it?

william r sanford72
5th September 2013, 13:11
when i first started to go inward.i really didnt know how.forgot.burried deep.and to be honest it was survival.of my sanity and soul that motivated me in the begining.how i done it reminds of your floor problem being solved in that moment.without even thinking about it.i started drawing than inking and painting.hours.days.weeks.the results were about 60 paintings that year.and while i painted i would began to think..anf feel not about the details or color of the current project but about what was happening to me.and why i was changing and how to deal with all this info i felt i wasnt even close to remotely handling well.with out screwing up..again.my oldest called it the zone.and soon as the inks and paints were broke out everyone new to let dad be.after awhile i stopped needing the focus of the art to trigger the going inward.the deep inward.and it comes much easier now.still like to paint when it seems a problem cant be solved normal like..and i just like creating.anyways im kinda rambling..by the way fred how the floor turn out??..and feel your right.something is or has changed.atleast for me.a brand new song.

Richard S.
5th September 2013, 13:17
Someone on Natural News recently posted an article about "the Dark Side" of the psyche, it's worth a read if you want to know where the bad stuff comes from!

I've started looking into it, thanks...

Richard S.
5th September 2013, 13:29
For me it comes down to one point of consciousness... understanding that we are creating ALL the time. The question for me has long been, just how conscious AM I of that Creation and my participation in it?

Yes, we do create all the time. And being aware of it is part of this battle of awareness.

I catch myself at it very often and get surprised when the deed is accomplished. "Wow, did I do that?"

It's very powerful, I didn't realize it until I started waking up. I actually bought my dream home with it.

I was contemplating a "way-out" if the SHTF, starting looking into mobile homes, switched over to purchasing land.
It was really uncanny, the moment I shifted my intention, I was looking into getting a place, bam, first place I found, this was it.
I looked at other places but I came back to the original as it was IT.
3 weeks later, I was sitting in front of a fire, enjoying the quietness.
Then I thought about it, it was clear I had manifested it.
Everyone asked me how come I did it so fast, I told them it was meant to be.

Since then, I am being more careful of what I pursue and give power to.

sleepy
5th September 2013, 16:50
xxxxx xxxxx

Fred Steeves
5th September 2013, 21:15
Which brings me back to this thread. If just thinking about awareness and power, which is what I was doing when this happened, can do things like that, am I comfortable with that? I don't know that I am ready for great responsibility. My brother died and I didn't even know he was sick because we weren't speaking. How can I even begin to think about healing the world when I couldn't heal my family?


Hi sleepy. Thanks for sharing your story of what happened today, don't you just love those little God Winks? :)

Let me give you my take on what you're talking about, and then decide for yourself if it maybe rings a bell or not. And also, why I think your being hesitant about the responsibility is actually a very good thing! Some, possibly many of us had this power at our beckon call once upon a time. Then we began abusing it, and after a certain point it was consequently stripped from us in one fell swoop. I call it "The Big Fall", the big fall from grace.

It's been a long long time in coming, but we are now being offered the opportunity to try it again, along with the lighting up of our genetic memory, as a reminder of the terrible things we did, and the terrible price we have paid. I began to realize this maybe 2 years ago now, with the wondering of if I'm ready to try my hand at assuming this great responsibility again. Until just fairly recently my answer was still a no, just too tall of an order to deal with. Not ready...

So this is why I think it's a good thing you being very hesitant about that sleepy, it's no small decision, and there's an awful lot riding on it. In pool they call it "The Money Shot". No one is going to force anyone to do anything they are not ready for, however, it is our true nature waiting for us. Whenever we're ready, and bold enough to give it another go.

Maybe this will clear up why I stress the responsibility in Creating thing so stridently. I've seen, been, and suffered the results of doing it's opposite, along with knowing the suffering caused to others.

Maybe you too?

Cheers,

Fred

mischief
5th September 2013, 21:28
When I first learnt about the theory of the 100th monkey, I thought at first "how cool, to have such an obvious and observeable phenomena"
Then, I wondered if this happens, does it only happen to monkeys? I dont think so.
Do we 'throw' these thoughts and realizations out into the Universe where some one else somewhere picks up on them when they need it?
Maybe this doesnt sound much like it has anything to do with laying a floor....haha, I do renovations on my house as well and have had the same sort of thing occur, so I might be biased towards the above being a fact.

music
6th September 2013, 06:19
Well my morning coffee answerings :) .....I love your 'idea' related to creativity! If we were ALL operating in creation mode this planet would be unrecognizable

They say were creating by our thoughts--- sad thing is we have not been trained/cultivated to ENGINEER our thoughts into reality. With no training... WE are high powered race cars driving runamuck. So not much happens JUST a lot of accidents....

OUR creative POTENTIAL is FKIN unbelievable....it truly is The way for this to really be in action in our world is for everything to be rebuilt from the foundation up....the foundation now is not set up for this FRUITFULNESS-----although something seems to be altering in the foundation

I believe our consensual reality is the sum of all our own personal realities taking the path of least resistance and settling to what we see and feel as "real". Most of us will have had experience of creating our own reality bubbles, where the madness of the consensual reality intrudes less, or where bad things are (mostly) kept at bay. This is a very real power, and the more people on earth who have awareness, and who create personal realities based on love, inclusiveness, and unity consciousness, then the more the path of least resistance will resolve to a love-based reality for us all.

Fred Steeves
6th September 2013, 10:44
For me it comes down to one point of consciousness... understanding that we are creating ALL the time. The question for me has long been, just how conscious AM I of that Creation and my participation in it?

That's a vital question Christine, one that requires our constant attention and scrutiny huh? "What am I creating today?"

Richard S.
6th September 2013, 12:18
Well my morning coffee answerings :) .....I love your 'idea' related to creativity! If we were ALL operating in creation mode this planet would be unrecognizable

They say were creating by our thoughts--- sad thing is we have not been trained/cultivated to ENGINEER our thoughts into reality. With no training... WE are high powered race cars driving runamuck. So not much happens JUST a lot of accidents....

OUR creative POTENTIAL is FKIN unbelievable....it truly is The way for this to really be in action in our world is for everything to be rebuilt from the foundation up....the foundation now is not set up for this FRUITFULNESS-----although something seems to be altering in the foundation

I believe our consensual reality is the sum of all our own personal realities taking the path of least resistance and settling to what we see and feel as "real". Most of us will have had experience of creating our own reality bubbles, where the madness of the consensual reality intrudes less, or where bad things are (mostly) kept at bay. This is a very real power, and the more people on earth who have awareness, and who create personal realities based on love, inclusiveness, and unity consciousness, then the more the path of least resistance will resolve to a love-based reality for us all.

Lovely, and BANG ON!!!

william r sanford72
6th September 2013, 13:10
What am i creating today??..potent seed planted with that simple question.very cool.

Shane
6th September 2013, 13:29
Once, I came to a point where I was struggling to believe any individual "imagines/creates/comes up with" anything because I had discovered that all information and knowledge is always available to all of us to access at any point we choose. (with some "tuning" of course) This led me to discredit my own creations/ideas as well as those of others.

After living with that thought for some time I began to realize that this does not discredit anything..

Even if all information and knowledge is just floating around in consciousness accessible by all.. there is still value in finding the quiet mind to observe such moments. Meaning; Even if the idea did not originate in our mind, our mind still managed to observe and attach to the idea. Also, an idea is only an idea.. the amazing reality we can all produce come from implementing it.

When stuck, or wondering.. instead of turning up the noise on a youtube video presentation to find answers.. we should all practice turning the noise OFF. Change directives/ do something else.. Quiet your mind.. and listen to yourself. (yourself = all that is and ever has been.. a current of energy containing data available to all creation.)

Thanks for sharing Fred!

sleepy
6th September 2013, 14:51
[xxxxx xxxxxx

ulli
6th September 2013, 15:05
That is a very thoughtful thought, Fred.

I too wonder at the ability to manifest thought in my daily life. And like Lovespot above, I have difficulty understanding my tendancy to manifest seemingly negative situations. Yet it seems that it is those very experiences that have the most to offer me, in terms of understanding myself. As I correct those aberrant thoughts I seem to be able to create more to my liking every day. And it seems to be a logarithmic curve, not linear. So the process speeds up, faster and faster.

Thing is, sometimes the curve is too steep and I fall back. But even this is but an opportunity to reassess, reconstitute, reprioritize. It is exactly this that makes me stronger, hopefully wiser and better equiped to take a steeper experiential learning curve.

So that would be like the longer you're at it the easier it gets.

I was once stupid enough to even buy a book called Murphy's Law.
The only good thing that came out of that was that just before that exponential curve got totally out of control
some guardian angel pointed out to me that I was creating my own Murphy's Law situation by focusing on it.

I learnt my lesson then.
Or did I? Now I'm battling against my perverse mind again, which is dragging me to contemplate Cheop's Law...LOL.
(Cheop's Law: Nothing was ever built within budget or schedule ((sheesh, I'm so evil, passing this one on))


Starting construction these days means I will be looking at videos like this one.
Just to wash my brain with positive possibilities.
Fortunately we are only building one story.


Ps0DSihggio

dianna
6th September 2013, 19:43
Once, I came to a point where I was struggling to believe any individual "imagines/creates/comes up with" anything because I had discovered that all information and knowledge is always available to all of us to access at any point we choose. (with some "tuning" of course) This led me to discredit my own creations/ideas as well as those of others.

After living with that thought for some time I began to realize that this does not discredit anything..

Even if all information and knowledge is just floating around in consciousness accessible by all.. there is still value in finding the quiet mind to observe such moments. Meaning; Even if the idea did not originate in our mind, our mind still managed to observe and attach to the idea. Also, an idea is only an idea.. the amazing reality we can all produce come from implementing it.

When stuck, or wondering.. instead of turning up the noise on a youtube video presentation to find answers.. we should all practice turning the noise OFF. Change directives/ do something else.. Quiet your mind.. and listen to yourself. (yourself = all that is and ever has been.. a current of energy containing data available to all creation.)

Thanks for sharing Fred!

Very well said Dracon!

Curt
4th October 2013, 16:57
Yo, Fred! Un-retire already, will ye!

http://arcadianshop.typepad.com/.a/6a01127982518128a40133eff36d79970b-800wi

Carmen
6th October 2013, 09:40
Yeah, come on! We miss you!

jiminii
6th October 2013, 11:06
That is a very thoughtful thought, Fred.

I too wonder at the ability to manifest thought in my daily life. And like Lovespot above, I have difficulty understanding my tendancy to manifest seemingly negative situations. Yet it seems that it is those very experiences that have the most to offer me, in terms of understanding myself. As I correct those aberrant thoughts I seem to be able to create more to my liking every day. And it seems to be a logarithmic curve, not linear. So the process speeds up, faster and faster.

Thing is, sometimes the curve is too steep and I fall back. But even this is but an opportunity to reassess, reconstitute, reprioritize. It is exactly this that makes me stronger, hopefully wiser and better equiped to take a steeper experiential learning curve.

So that would be like the longer you're at it the easier it gets.

I was once stupid enough to even buy a book called Murphy's Law.
The only good thing that came out of that was that just before that exponential curve got totally out of control
some guardian angel pointed out to me that I was creating my own Murphy's Law situation by focusing on it.

I learnt my lesson then.
Or did I? Now I'm battling against my perverse mind again, which is dragging me to contemplate Cheop's Law...LOL.
(Cheop's Law: Nothing was ever built within budget or schedule ((sheesh, I'm so evil, passing this one on))


Starting construction these days means I will be looking at videos like this one.
Just to wash my brain with positive possibilities.
Fortunately we are only building one story.


i remember Murphy's Law

Beauty is only skin deep

Ugly goes all the way to the bone

:becky:

jiim

jiminii
6th October 2013, 11:22
Last night while I was making dinner, an idea popped into my head. Nothing profound or anything, just something to do with a tricky wood floor I'm in the process of laying. What struck me though was the simple act of actually noticing that it had occurred, and observing it.

It wasn't there just a few seconds ago, and now it is. I wasn't even thinking about work, yet suddenly this thought appears that will make a problem not so much of a problem any more. Where did it come from?

We all do this of course, but how often do we pause and look at it? Every time we have an idea, it's a brand new creation that was not on this planet before. This is what Creators do, they have an idea, and then act to bring the idea into physical manifestation. Isn't it just amazing that we tend to take this for granted?

If we invoke the Hermetic axiom "as above so below, as below so above", it informs us that if we have an idea to make a floor lay better, then we can have an idea to make *anything* go better as well. Once again, this is what Creators do, but we've forgotten how to make things happen at the higher levels. Or, we're intimidated, and don't think we can actually do it...

And there lies the trick huh?

So then, are ideas always a good thing to implement? Well of course not! (LOL) But Creators are free to create as they please. This is yet another tricky trickster. Even if/when we overcome the hurdle of confidence that we can cause ideas to manifest, at any level, should we do it?

Back to the question of where do ideas come from. It's simple enough to not act on the aberrant ideas that we have from time to time, and wherever those kinds of ideas come from, it's obvious they don't come from a very good place. Other times though, it's not so easy.

This is where different factors come into play. Experience, discernment, insight, etc. Perhaps we may even get a little "tingle" from our genetic memory, softly echoing that we have done this same thing before in the eons gone by, and it either did, or didn't work out so well. The deeper and more diligently we observe, the wiser our decisions, and the more useful our Creations.

The old Chinese saying comes to mind: "Careful what you wish for"...

Anyway, these are my morning coffee ponderings. Gotta go finish that floor now. :)

Cheers,

Fred

Can I throw a curve ball here?


Something has bothered me for the longest time, and I still fail to explain it.

I am a loving although not perfect person, but I do want the better for my fellow humans, and I always stop to help in case of emergency, or if someone beckons a call for help, I am ALL-WAYS the first there.

My question is about thoughts, dark ones, the ones that seem to enter your mind from nowhere, yet are not of your nature. They can be anything, from thinking bad about someone to actually having visions of physical harm being done to someone.

Where do they come from?

When I do get one of those bad thoughts, nowadays, I remain still, attempt to analyse the situation and explain why? Yet, to no avail.

Am I alone here?

Why, why, why?

I do not want these to manifest, they are not of my nature, yet, they stop me dead in my tracks, for I cannot explain...

Thanks for reading me,

Rick

can be a thought from someone else

can be a thought from previous painful incident brought to view by being in a similar situation

just look at it and say "not true" and that should vanish it

if that doesn't work then say "not my thought" and that should vanish it

jim

jiminii
6th October 2013, 11:38
So yeah, obviously our aberrant thoughts are fairly easy to spot. Many would say that these thoughts are via Archonic influences, but I would take that even a step further. See I'm not even sure where the separation may lie between Archon type influences, and our own ancient reservoir of unresolved muckity mucks. But either way, at least these are usually recognizable. Like, if I'm driving on a mountain road, and suddenly get the urge to veer off the road, that's an easy no no.

What's *not* so easy, are the ones that seem like a pretty good idea, but in the end really aren't. Becoming an unwitting enabler would be a classic example, meaning well, but actually just making things worse than they already were. This holds true for our creations as well, like the old saying goes: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions". Causing a flood when trying to end a drought would be an example of careless manifestation.

It can be tricky business, and this might rub a lot of people the wrong way, but the genesis of Creation is everything. It probably doesn't really matter that much for the average Joe 6 pack, because their creative abilities are laying basically dormant. But, the more one remembers how to do this stuff, which is our birth right, the more the tremendous burden of responsibility bears on their Spiritual shoulders as well.

With power comes responsibility, and the more attuned we are in our power, the more we are held accountable as well.

Indeed! I have grabbled with that myself. The example you gave of being an unwitting enabler is very apt. How to discern 'right action'. It's so easy to talk ourselves into believing it's right because it fits our (maybe unconcious) agenda.

I sometimes feel that one of the lessons I came to learn is to be able to be 'there' with a person or animal who is suffering, whom I can't help, but I can sit with in open-hearted compassion. This is so hard for me, as I want to fix everything! I can feel so overwhelmed and angry at the suffering this planet seems to manufacture, that I lose my spiritual connection.

It must indicate great spiritual maturity when you no longer get psychically assalted by suffering. I want to get there someday. But that is another topic.

I love when my mind is quiet enougn for answers to 'pop' through. I used to meditate a lot when I was younger and I had many experiences. I'm not looking for experiences anymore. I love the quiet and sense of peace that comes when my mind is still.

I have been thinking about attention and intention lately.

Attention is very powerful. When I really focus on a person or situation, I feel like I connect to them. Attention combined with intention is like a mental laser beam. You know that experience of sitting in a restaurant or other public place and finding yourself staring at someone..and all the sudden they look right at you.

Or your thinking of someone and they call, text, or e-mail you at that moment.

And there is some attention you definately don't want.

So there is probably good reason to discipline your thoughts and guide where your attention goes.

The minds 'job' is to generate thoughts. Which means it is not 'me', it's a tool for 'me' to use. And it's a pretty complex and multi-layered. It takes skill and discipline to learn how to use it effectively.

I think its easy when your are following a spiritual path to judge your progress by how positive everything in your life is. Your thoughts, your experiences, your relationships etc.

I just don't think that's the goal. Nor is the attainment of spiritual power. I think power needs to be handled very carefully. Its so easy to feed the ego.

Sometimes I hope that my spiritual/personal growth and learning will eventually land me on a planetary councel of some sort. Ha! Like the UN of this part of the galaxy.

Where no one person uses their personal power to make decisions that will effect entire civilazations without consensus.

I don't think you can guage your spiritual progress by the amount of suffering you avoid.

I think you can gauge it by your reaction to it.

Ok - that's enough rambling around.

Cool thread, Fred

Thanks for starting it.

http://www.scientologyhandbook.org/SH6_1.HTM

there are many assist here for healing almost anything

that anybody can learn and do

jim

jagman
6th October 2013, 13:19
So yeah, obviously our aberrant thoughts are fairly easy to spot. Many would say that these thoughts are via Archonic influences, but I would take that even a step further. See I'm not even sure where the separation may lie between Archon type influences, and our own ancient reservoir of unresolved muckity mucks. But either way, at least these are usually recognizable. Like, if I'm driving on a mountain road, and suddenly get the urge to veer off the road, that's an easy no no.

What's *not* so easy, are the ones that seem like a pretty good idea, but in the end really aren't. Becoming an unwitting enabler would be a classic example, meaning well, but actually just making things worse than they already were. This holds true for our creations as well, like the old saying goes: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions". Causing a flood when trying to end a drought would be an example of careless manifestation.

It can be tricky business, and this might rub a lot of people the wrong way, but the genesis of Creation is everything. It probably doesn't really matter that much for the average Joe 6 pack, because their creative abilities are laying basically dormant. But, the more one remembers how to do this stuff, which is our birth right, the more the tremendous burden of responsibility bears on their Spiritual shoulders as well.

With power comes responsibility, and the more attuned we are in our power, the more we are held accountable as well.

Indeed! I have grabbled with that myself. The example you gave of being an unwitting enabler is very apt. How to discern 'right action'. It's so easy to talk ourselves into believing it's right because it fits our (maybe unconcious) agenda.

I sometimes feel that one of the lessons I came to learn is to be able to be 'there' with a person or animal who is suffering, whom I can't help, but I can sit with in open-hearted compassion. This is so hard for me, as I want to fix everything! I can feel so overwhelmed and angry at the suffering this planet seems to manufacture, that I lose my spiritual connection.

It must indicate great spiritual maturity when you no longer get psychically assalted by suffering. I want to get there someday. But that is another topic.

I love when my mind is quiet enougn for answers to 'pop' through. I used to meditate a lot when I was younger and I had many experiences. I'm not looking for experiences anymore. I love the quiet and sense of peace that comes when my mind is still.

I have been thinking about attention and intention lately.

Attention is very powerful. When I really focus on a person or situation, I feel like I connect to them. Attention combined with intention is like a mental laser beam. You know that experience of sitting in a restaurant or other public place and finding yourself staring at someone..and all the sudden they look right at you.

Or your thinking of someone and they call, text, or e-mail you at that moment.

And there is some attention you definately don't want.

So there is probably good reason to discipline your thoughts and guide where your attention goes.

The minds 'job' is to generate thoughts. Which means it is not 'me', it's a tool for 'me' to use. And it's a pretty complex and multi-layered. It takes skill and discipline to learn how to use it effectively.

I think its easy when your are following a spiritual path to judge your progress by how positive everything in your life is. Your thoughts, your experiences, your relationships etc.

I just don't think that's the goal. Nor is the attainment of spiritual power. I think power needs to be handled very carefully. Its so easy to feed the ego.

Sometimes I hope that my spiritual/personal growth and learning will eventually land me on a planetary councel of some sort. Ha! Like the UN of this part of the galaxy.

Where no one person uses their personal power to make decisions that will effect entire civilazations without consensus.

I don't think you can guage your spiritual progress by the amount of suffering you avoid.

I think you can gauge it by your reaction to it.

Ok - that's enough rambling around.

Cool thread, Fred

Thanks for starting it.

http://www.scientologyhandbook.org/SH6_1.HTM

there are many assist here for healing almost anything

that anybody can learn and do

jim

Jim why are you posting scientology Lit on Freds thread?

M6*
7th October 2013, 00:58
Wise Guy, you are Fred!:-)

That's why i read your "stuff":-)
Good luck with the floor! M6*

Bill Ryan
7th October 2013, 01:05
I was once stupid enough to even buy a book called Murphy's Law.
The only good thing that came out of that was that just before that exponential curve got totally out of control
some guardian angel pointed out to me that I was creating my own Murphy's Law situation by focusing on it.



My favorite version of Murphy's Law is that everything takes twice as long as you think it will, even if you take Murphy's law into account. :)

OK -- :focus: