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Cristian
10th September 2013, 17:49
Part 1 - I think...

1. Born in slavery

If you are a human being born on this Planet I have some bad news for you: You are a slave. Rich or poor, famous or not, doesn’t matter …you have owners.
Is not that our masters have something personally against us. Is business as usual for them – another race conquered and enslaved.

They are not being evil on purpose. That’s just who they are.

If we define God as “the ocean of love and compassion “ and if we define individual souls as “drops of water from the ocean” - then we are all coming from the same place. (Keep in mind my definition of God as it has nothing to do with the crazy guy from the Bible).



2. Controlling the herd


There are a number of strategies deployed in order to keep us in line.

2.1 Religion

Over the years religion was the most powerful tool used . All major religions have been designed with the sole purpose of keeping us away from real knowledge.

On a side note , New Age is a religion. Fluffy light and love with no substance and logic is where we are herded next. All this accompanied by the sound of channeling from Kryon and Saint Germain . And so it is! :P

2.2 Wars
2.3 Manipulation of global economy
2.4 Sex drive

Now this one is tough. Took me a while to understand.

Is not that sex itself is a bad thing. The problem is promiscuity. Even promiscuity, in a normal reality shouldn’t be a problem. The issue resides in the huge amount of energy loss when having casual sex.

Another thing –keeping humans in a constant horny mood diverts energy and attention from real issues.
And of course there is also the addiction of most people to sex, porn and promiscuity.


2.5 Brain Programing

As it grows a child is exposed to heavy programing by parents, media and society as a whole. So if we analyze the need to be popular in school we understand that the programing is in place since an early age .

Aside from the usual programing , there is also targeted programming for some individuals. Contactees for example are programed not to remember some events and also to shut down their logic and cognitive ability when discussing some topics.

This weird “shut down” of brain abilities is also present in lots of other situation where humans are not supposed to “go there”.




3. Who are they?


3.1. Parasitic entities

“Parasites are like junkies; they’re hooked on the taste of energy. They are gluttons gorging themselves at our expense. The more they feed, the more they need.

Most siphon off your energy in a particular way. Whether by choice or by limitation, spirits tap specific energy centers (Chakra) or emotional centers. Over time, by manipulating the way energy flows through you, or by tapping strong emotional responses, a parasite can drain you dry. Given enough time a parasite’s drain can lead to physical illness or an emotional crisis just like physical parasites do.

That influence is what makes a parasite spirit really dangerous. It is also what makes them vulnerable. Once the spirit and the influence are identified removing them entails working around the influence to change the energy flow. It gets more difficult the longer the spirit has been with the host. Essentially, however, the key to ridding yourself of one of these nasties is an awareness of the spirit’s interest, and a willingness to push it off, repeatedly in some cases.” (from http://www.texasghostandspirit.com/parasitic-entities/)

However parasites are of little importance in the great scheme of things.




3.2 Demonic entities

I reserved this category for disembodied entities only. As we will see later on there are also demonic extra-dimensional entities that are very much alive in their own reality.

First thing, demonic entities are organized and listen to orders from above. That’s not to say they can’t have “fun “ by themselves but more often then not , they are part of a well calculated strategy.

They are often deployed when some people are constantly breaking their programing . Their main goal at that point is either to possess or influence the person to commit violent acts or suicide; or they may try to scare the person back into religion- a sort of back in line.

The way to deal with this entities is to let go of past traumas, let go of all the pain and fears so they will have nothing to use as an entry point. (there are lots of aspects to be discussed about this issues-but that is not the point of this post).


3.3 Reptilians

In Between "Worlds"- by David Icke:

“The reptilian and other entities, which are manipulating our world by possessing "human" bodies, operate in frequencies between the Third and Fourth densities. These are referred to as "hidden spaces and planes unknown to man", in the apparently ancient Emerald Tablets, which I quote from in "Children of the Matrix". For simplicity, I refer to this "between world" in my books as the lower fourth dimension.

It is from here that they police our vibrational prison - the Matrix - and seek to addict and restrict us to the dense physical senses. This world was once far less dense than it is today and the "fall" down the frequencies, caused by the manipulation of incarnate consciousness and DNA infiltration, has made it so much more difficult to maintain a multi-dimensional connection while in physical form. We are now in a cycle of change when the vibration of this "world" will be raised out of dense physicality and return to where it once was. In doing so, the reptilians’ ability to manipulate our physical form will be removed and this is why they are in such a panic at this time to prevent this shift from opening the vibrational prison door.

The reptilians and other manipulating entities exist only just outside the frequency range of our physical senses. Their own physical form has broken down and they can no longer re-produce. Thus they have sought to infiltrate human form and so use that to exist and control in this dimension. They chose the Earth for this infiltration because it most resembles in vibration the locations from which they originate. These reptilians are addicted to the dense physical "world" and the sensations it offers and they have no desire to advance higher. Their aim in this period is to stop the Earth and incarnate humanity from making the shift from dense physical prison into multi-dimensional paradise.

From what I understand, this dense physical world is caught in a manufactured time "loop", in which "time" is a circle, constantly repeating itself. Note that one of the ancient symbols for "infinity" is the snake swallowing its own tail. The pentagram or five-pointed star, so prevalent in Satanism, is also symbolic of this unbroken "time" cycle, the vibrational prison.

The period we are now experiencing has, therefore, been played out before. We are just at that point again in the repeating circle or cycle, like a rat running on one of those wheels in a cage. No matter how fast it runs, it keeps covering the same ground. What we need to do is break the "time" circle and thus the prison. We are now in that part of the circle that is most vulnerable to this because of the vibrational changes taking place in this part of the Universe and this is why the control of humans has tightened so rapidly in this period - they are doing everything they can to defend their prison from the awakening of the inmates.”

Freed Fox
10th September 2013, 18:23
I agree with many of your points in section two "Controlling the Herd", but have some issues with section 1 & 3. One of them being, that it is highly arguable that there is a major exception to the premise of section 1 which could be included in section 3. That is, the human elite. You might postulate that they are under the influence of parasites or demons, however, thus explaining the omission.

Also for section 3, are these alternative explanations/possibilities, or are you stating that these are all working in conjunction or perhaps competition over us?

Furthermore, 3.3 is too generalized. Let's take the words of David Icke himself to illustrate why. In an interview, he stated the following;


I don’t want to demonize the entire reptilian race, because it’s just a genetic stream in the great forever. I’m talking about a small number of this reptilian race that is behind this manipulation, not the race in general. Indeed, many of the reptilian stream both in physical bodies and in other dimensions are working now to help humanity win their freedom…win our freedom back.

Furthermore, from his book Human Race Get Off Your Knees;


These entities who are manipulating and controlling the reality on this planet are actually what can be thought of as outcasts of the reptilian race.

There is a video posted in the following thread which includes these quotations, if you'd like to check it out for yourself...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?63172-A-Brief-but-Important-Point-to-the-UFO-Community

SlickWillie
10th September 2013, 18:31
When you say "The period we are now experiencing has, therefore, been played out before." Do you mean we've already existed as we are now before?....ie. same parents, friends, jobs, opportunities, events? And its just a repeat? Or do we have the same "settings" but can make new decisions and influence our destiny again?

I have always had a strange feeling, which has picked up the last few years, as if I've lived this before.

truth4me
10th September 2013, 21:39
When you say "The period we are now experiencing has, therefore, been played out before." Do you mean we've already existed as we are now before?....ie. same parents, friends, jobs, opportunities, events? And its just a repeat? Or do we have the same "settings" but can make new decisions and influence our destiny again?

I have always had a strange feeling, which has picked up the last few years, as if I've lived this before.

Philip Corso Jr talks about time travel in this interesting video.......
iADd0oUv8HU

SlickWillie
10th September 2013, 22:25
Absolutely fascinating video! Something I've thought about often....the whole "it tastes like a steak, even though I know its not". For our own good, we don't know certain things...mostly because the majority of the human race couldn't handle it and would go crazy.

But back to the original post...how can you have knowledge that others don't and still enjoy life as its set up, WHILE also making conscious decisions to hopefully free yourself and others from WHATEVER is controlling us?

Bill Ryan
10th September 2013, 22:51
Philip Corso Jr talks about time travel in this interesting video.......
iADd0oUv8HU


Just for the record: I find Philip Corso Jr's presentations fascinating and credible. The ones I have archived report on what his well-known father (who wrote The Day After Roswell) never spoke of publicly when he was alive.

I've only heard two of Philip Corso Jr's talks, and I'd very much appreciate links to any more if they exist.

ghostrider
11th September 2013, 00:39
Philip Corso Jr talks about time travel in this interesting video.......
iADd0oUv8HU


Just for the record: I find Philip Corso Jr's presentations fascinating and credible. The ones I have archived report on what his well-known father (who wrote The Day After Roswell) never spoke of publicly when he was alive.

I've only heard two of Philip Corso Jr's talks, and I'd very much appreciate links to any more if they exist.

I bought that book the day after roswell in nashville tn, near vanderbuilt ... when the guy looked it up on the computer he claim they had over 200,000 books in their warehouse , the screen showed five different versions all by different authors , and the one by col corso , they only had ONE copy ... the staff was freaked out , it caused a bit of rukus there at barnes n noble ... I got the only copy available in the city of Nashville ...

ghostrider
11th September 2013, 00:49
When you say "The period we are now experiencing has, therefore, been played out before." Do you mean we've already existed as we are now before?....ie. same parents, friends, jobs, opportunities, events? And its just a repeat? Or do we have the same "settings" but can make new decisions and influence our destiny again?

I have always had a strange feeling, which has picked up the last few years, as if I've lived this before.

Philip Corso Jr talks about time travel in this interesting video.......
iADd0oUv8HU

earth humans are not spiritually advanced enough to have the tecnology we have ... look how they weaponized computers/drones , night vision, fiber optics , all for battle nothing for humanity ...

Bubu
11th September 2013, 01:04
But back to the original post...how can you have knowledge that others don't and still enjoy life as its set up, WHILE also making conscious decisions to hopefully free yourself and others from WHATEVER is controlling us?

Acceptance" Give me the serenity to accept things I cannot change, the courage to change what I can and the wisdom to know the difference" This is a good phrase that has long been forgotten.

To the OP have you ever tended to a herd of goats chickens ducks etc. i can assure there are one or two renegades in the flock. Glad I am not a slave although I am affected by the system also.

Merry Mom
11th September 2013, 03:47
Absolutely fascinating video! Something I've thought about often....the whole "it tastes like a steak, even though I know its not". For our own good, we don't know certain things...mostly because the majority of the human race couldn't handle it and would go crazy.

But back to the original post...how can you have knowledge that others don't and still enjoy life as its set up, WHILE also making conscious decisions to hopefully free yourself and others from WHATEVER is controlling us?

The character he refers to in the Matrix is extremely evil. I don't like the part of this video where he says we are better off not knowing, couldn't handle it, etc. That is a bit condescending and sounds like the mentality of the so-called elite.

What I understand from this video is that he is saying that the Roswell incident was a time travel event. It's not clear what he is saying about the Philadephia Experiment, other than that it involved time travel.

Kor
11th September 2013, 12:27
1. Born in slavery



The evil of man can also be looked at from a "man made" perspective. From the perspective that does not have the external source to blame but a personal responsibility. This perspective is also more "down to the ground" perspective.

Evil of man and women comes to be when parents fail their children.

Various forms of psychopathy can occur very easily in the oral phase. If the mother does not do her job (being a mother) the child will never come to know what love is. If the child is being severely neglected the more severe the psychopathy.

It is a "mans world" but these men are made such by their mothers (and yes later also fathers).

When father fails to "take mother back" to him, the boy will never grow up and develop sound ethical reasoning - coping with the feelings when they do not feel pleasant. The boy will grow to mommy obsessed pathological narcissist (most politicians, actors, extreme sports...) and as such he will not be a "moral man". It will be all about satisfying his own needs.

If at the same time the mother will neglect her child in oral (and anal phase), the boy will grow up into an abuser/killer of women. The boy will also display other signs of psychopathy such as extreme xenophobia and many other "minor" issues, such as the need to control and dominate - mostly women. Another "minor issue" is malevolence in latent sadism (military, police force...)


In case of girls...the wrong upbringing will cause them to hate men (basically resenting the phallus), becoming feminists, having libido problems, wanting to be and act more like men..etc

But the greatest damage is done when such girls have children and raise them with their thinking. Such girls will also pick "doormat" men to live with as that would be the "image" of their father (or absent father). Generally speaking the girl will be attracted to the "phallic qualities" of her main male model from the childhood, which in most cases is her father. (why also some women just keep getting the SAME bad guy type over and over) Meaning - if the guy she meets later in life will lack that, it will be "just friends".


The society in general of course does not help with this and if you do wish to "point the finger" you can indeed do so to the "social strategists" who are very thoroughly (and much more in depth) familiar with what i wrote above. To say it a bit more conspiratorial - yes there sure are ways with which things are being controlled and brought down (break up of society) with more apparent ones (homosexual adoptions, removing mothers from the main role of the family, taking children away from the family, commercial/pop culture, exploitation of sexuality...etc) and less apparent ones in form of influencing the subconscious, but no damage or "programming" can be greater than the one from birth to about 8/10 years old.

But overall..evil that man do starts with a THOUGHT and thought becomes the IT.

You are the "master creator".

araucaria
11th September 2013, 13:30
Philip Corso Jr talks about time travel in this interesting video.......
iADd0oUv8HU


Just for the record: I find Philip Corso Jr's presentations fascinating and credible. The ones I have archived report on what his well-known father (who wrote The Day After Roswell) never spoke of publicly when he was alive.

I've only heard two of Philip Corso Jr's talks, and I'd very much appreciate links to any more if they exist.
I think he is saying we don’t need to know more, we need to know less!

Time travel means free energy. You build a UFO with materials back-engineered from the UFO you sent back in time to 1947. When did you send it back? Possibly sometime soon. When were your computer chips invented? According to this circular scenario, they weren’t. :)

Where do we go from here? Perhaps we need to smash that time machine.

ulli
11th September 2013, 13:59
1. Born in slavery



The evil of man can also be looked at from a "man made" perspective. From the perspective that does not have the external source to blame but a personal responsibility. This perspective is also more "down to the ground" perspective.

Evil of man and women comes to be when parents fail their children.

Various forms of psychopathy can occur very easily in the oral phase. If the mother does not do her job (being a mother) the child will never come to know what love is. If the child is being severely neglected the more severe the psychopathy.

It is a "mans world" but these men are made such by their mothers (and yes later also fathers).

When father fails to "take mother back" to him, the boy will never grow up and develop sound ethical reasoning - coping with the feelings when they do not feel pleasant. The boy will grow to mommy obsessed pathological narcissist (most politicians, actors, extreme sports...) and as such he will not be a "moral man". It will be all about satisfying his own needs.

If at the same time the mother will neglect her child in oral (and anal phase), the boy will grow up into an abuser/killer of women. The boy will also display other signs of psychopathy such as extreme xenophobia and many other "minor" issues, such as the need to control and dominate - mostly women. Another "minor issue" is malevolence in latent sadism (military, police force...)


In case of girls...the wrong upbringing will cause them to hate men (basically resenting the phallus), becoming feminists, having libido problems, wanting to be and act more like men..etc

But the greatest damage is done when such girls have children and raise them with their thinking. Such girls will also pick "doormat" men to live with as that would be the "image" of their father (or absent father). Generally speaking the girl will be attracted to the "phallic qualities" of her main male model from the childhood, which in most cases is her father. (why also some women just keep getting the SAME bad guy type over and over) Meaning - if the guy she meets later in life will lack that, it will be "just friends".


The society in general of course does not help with this and if you do wish to "point the finger" you can indeed do so to the "social strategists" who are very thoroughly (and much more in depth) familiar with what i wrote above. To say it a bit more conspiratorial - yes there sure are ways with which things are being controlled and brought down (break up of society) with more apparent ones (homosexual adoptions, removing mothers from the main role of the family, taking children away from the family, commercial/pop culture, exploitation of sexuality...etc) and less apparent ones in form of influencing the subconscious, but no damage or "programming" can be greater than the one from birth to about 8/10 years old.

But overall..evil that man do starts with a THOUGHT and thought becomes the IT.

You are the "master creator".

Great post, thank you. The hurdles of early childhood ae indeed pattern-forming. But those patterns can already be discerned in the astrological birth chart, and if astrology were allowed and taken seriously in any given culture then parents can be advised from early on what challenges to expect with a given child and then they can more easily be overcome.
In a healthy society all potentiality for "evil" can then be transformed.
In a healthy society there may still be a need to keep some people locked away, so that they can't do harm to others,
but that society would provide them with opportunities to learn about the consequences of their actions,
become responsible, and actually return to normal life with zest and hope for new beginnings, fully healed.

Freed Fox
11th September 2013, 15:49
Yes, excellent, Kor & Ulli described another tangential issue I had with section 1 of the OP, tied to an entirely human element. I was playing devil's advocate a bit by pointing to the possibility of parasitic/demonic influence in such individuals. Though I had inferred that to be the position which was being taken, it is not the position I personally hold on the matter.

Of course, those aforementioned, other-worldly influences are virtually impossible to either prove or disprove, leaving a lot of room for speculation.

None of this is brought up with any intent to 'tear apart' the OP or premise, but I do look forward to hearing more about the points raised in these replies.

Edit: Also, I neglected to mention a relevant possibility which I first heard brought up by Jay Wiedner on C2C AM. That was regarding extra-dimensional 'Archontic' entities. George asked him if they were Reptilian and Jay pointed out the following; everything the 'Archons' do is about deception, so is it not possible that they are the true shapeshifters, and sometimes choose to take Reptilian form?

I believe this is a distinct possibility, and one I'm surprised isn't considered more often. There's a solid chance that these demonic beings are poisoning our perceptions of Reptilians and other extra-terrestrials out there who are essentially benevolent, in the event that they ever decide to take a more direct approach in aiding us down here.

sirdipswitch
11th September 2013, 16:46
When you say "The period we are now experiencing has, therefore, been played out before." Do you mean we've already existed as we are now before?....ie. same parents, friends, jobs, opportunities, events? And its just a repeat? Or do we have the same "settings" but can make new decisions and influence our destiny again?

I have always had a strange feeling, which has picked up the last few years, as if I've lived this before.

Philip Corso Jr talks about time travel in this interesting video.......
iADd0oUv8HU

Fascinating? Credible? Yes Bill, I would say extremely so. What would be the implications of the point he did not make? Crash? By beings from our future? Would this then place us in a TIME LOOP with them? How many times have we went round this loop? Already? From what date in our future did they return to this time? What if people in general, were told of this?

How could we ever hope to change this "Paradox", in our time line?

You may find more on this, in my thread:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51152-The-Secret-Of-The-Soul-and-OBE&p=728292&viewfull=1#post728292

Fred Steeves
11th September 2013, 21:24
Edit: Also, I neglected to mention a relevant possibility which I first heard brought up by Jay Wiedner on C2C AM. That was regarding extra-dimensional 'Archontic' entities. George asked him if they were Reptilian and Jay pointed out the following; everything the 'Archons' do is about deception, so is it not possible that they are the true shapeshifters, and sometimes choose to take Reptilian form?


Not just physical shapeshifters...Think about things as subtle as thoughts and ideas, even ones appearing to be very loving and kind on the surface. These can come from ourselves as well as others. You ingest the idea, buy into it so to speak, and you've just taken in a Trojan Horse. It's that damn easy to happen...

This is why it's so vitally important to be constantly paying attention to, honing, and ultimately *trusting* our spidey senses. You can have two people putting forth the same wonderful idea or thought to you for your consideration. One will harmonize, the other, the Trojan Horse/Archon version, will have a certain repulsive aspect to it that is easily "spotted", but it does take practice getting to that point. By practice, I mean actually taking a few rolls in the hay with that dark nasty s**t. Seriously...

The more we hone this innate ability we all have, the more wise and discerning we can be with what we "take in".

Cheers,

Fred

Cristian
11th September 2013, 23:17
Hey Fred,

So what are your spidey senses telling you about my OP?

norman
12th September 2013, 00:38
Edit: Also, I neglected to mention a relevant possibility which I first heard brought up by Jay Wiedner on C2C AM. That was regarding extra-dimensional 'Archontic' entities. George asked him if they were Reptilian and Jay pointed out the following; everything the 'Archons' do is about deception, so is it not possible that they are the true shapeshifters, and sometimes choose to take Reptilian form?


Not just physical shapeshifters...Think about things as subtle as thoughts and ideas, even ones appearing to be very loving and kind on the surface. These can come from ourselves as well as others. You ingest the idea, buy into it so to speak, and you've just taken in a Trojan Horse. It's that damn easy to happen...

This is why it's so vitally important to be constantly paying attention to, honing, and ultimately *trusting* our spidey senses. You can have two people putting forth the same wonderful idea or thought to you for your consideration. One will harmonize, the other, the Trojan Horse/Archon version, will have a certain repulsive aspect to it that is easily "spotted", but it does take practice getting to that point. By practice, I mean actually taking a few rolls in the hay with that dark nasty s**t. Seriously...

The more we hone this innate ability we all have, the more wise and discerning we can be with what we "take in".

Cheers,

Fred

The way I've come to live with my 'spidy sense' is to narrow down the rules a bit for the times when I'm too lazy to be very perceptive.

As a very general rule, I set my alarm settings to trip on any crossing of the threshold into a cerebral spike of "clarity".

For me, that's the big black evil, right there.

I really don't trust anything cerebral, beyond a functional jobbing thing about getting things done to maintain the body etc.


I should confess here that I'm a tad biased by a certain kind of meditation I was initiated into back in errr..... can't remember right now.

[ The guy to google ( to get the background ) is "Guru Maraji" or, to use his full proper name, 'Prem Pal Sing Rawat'. I struggled for ages to get one of his 'instructors' to take me seriously and take in for a 'knowledge' session. ]


I have come to loosen my 'faith' in David Icke a little recently, mainly because of his nonsensical use of the analogy about the "wavelength" and the selectable radio frequency bull$it that shames him. I'm still very much tight with his idea about the 'space suit' or 'meatsuit' though. And, that meat suit, in my understanding, very much includes all things cerebral and not of the inner spiritual being.

I believe the only part of me that the evil ones can't reach is my soul. As I don't believe my mind is my soul, I regard my mind as compromised by the evil things here that I'm visiting in my meat suit.

Kor
12th September 2013, 08:30
In a healthy society there may still be a need to keep some people locked away, so that they can't do harm to others,


Prison system is a big business and also obsolete. Locking someone away for a period of time solves nothing, so yes i agree there should be ways for people to learn.

Problem is - some thoughts from very early stages of life, once internalized, are hard to "correct". In most cases one can just "minimize the influence" but never fully remove them (like in the cases of abuse).

Given how things are at the moment, i dare to say society in general is evil. Humanity, as we know it today, is evil - compared to how it could have been. If you do not like me calling society evil, you can also say it is heavily traumatized (so not necessarily inherently evil).

You would need to work proactively, so not "rehabilitating" the people after birth, but making sure that before parenthood happens, the couple knows what they are doing (are about to take on).

Maybe a bit controversial but still....it can also be said that having a child today in this world (such as it is) is an act of evil. Especially if you have just some man and woman, who are "wishing for a family", not thinking about anything else, expecting "love" to handle it all.




things as subtle as thoughts and ideas, even ones appearing to be very loving and kind on the surface. These can come from ourselves as well as others.

Yes.

It is thoughts who made people into what they are and yes, thoughts were not and still are not just our own - unique to you or originating from you. But mostly it is a "human entity" which makes all of that.
About the "evil entities" - they wait to see if there is room for them, before they "come in" or as some say "attach" to you. So don't let them. Do not create them in a first place.